June 1, 2023 • 44 mins
Flame Monroe joined by resident Flamette Bobbi Clifford discuss the recent passing of the legend Tina Turner, reactions to the new Little Mermaid movie, the 2024 republican candidates taking shape, the debt ceiling and much more. Tune in and comment in the socials below.
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No this? Hey hey, hey, welcome to laugh and learn.
(01:42):
I am your host, Flaming Roe, and today almost is
the new the son of a new month. We are
at May thirty first, almost six months into the year,
and I would love to say that America has gotten better,
but absolutely not. So today we're gonna talk about it.
I am here with my wonderful producer, mister Aaron, and
my girl, my one and only girl. Mistook to somebody.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Cliff and hello, Bobby, Hi, saying.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I'm glad you here to join me because I've been
all over the place I was. I was on a
whirlwind tour in Yellow Springs, Xenia and Springfield, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Good god, oh, tell us all about it.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Springfield, Ohio will never be the same. They was already
Trump country. They were scared of black folks. But when
they started black training come through, I think they fell
in love.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Baby.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Oh my god, I had the best time. Thank you
Yellow Springs, Xenia and Springfield, Ohio. Thank you Downielle Robins.
We were at Downie or Land this weekend, Bobby, and
it is a gathering of people from all nationalities, all
walks of life. We barbecue, we paddleboarded, we were on canoes,
we played kickball, we played cars. We joined together. And
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he had a podcast on Monday. And I'm sitting on
the stage with no makeup. I'm looking just about like
I look right now, and I'm looking at the audience
of everything. When I say everything, everything, and they say
playing and what does Danielle Land mean to you? And
I said, I'm looking at America. This is America to me,
this is the America that I grew up and everybody
just getting along, fragnize it, fixing each other. Place. There
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were large whites, large black, small, black, small, agent. Everybody
was a family. Nobody was in Louis being shot or
being beat up. There was no profanity. It was so
many kids around. The kids were interacting. That is the
America I grew up in, and unfortunately that is not
the America that I know right now. But I remember
that that was it, and I was glad to be
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reminded of this is what is America, not what they're pushing.
So it was a beautiful path for me. I had
a great time. I was introduced to twenty six hundred
new people because they had me host to show it
was Trump Country. I came out and told a joke
about Joe Biden, but of course I had to give
them what they needed. I told one about Trump too.
I said, Trump like the grad woman by the pussy.
I hope he grabbed man. He's gonna be stroking for
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nine inches. They lost it. They loved me because I
did not attack their leader. I made fun of their leader.
It's a very big difference when you don't attack, but
if you make fun of Because they know it too.
They laughed with me, not at me, They laughed with me.
It was a great experience, Bobby, and I was glad
to go. So next year we got to go about it.
Are you gonna get in the boat, Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Sweet Jesus, I might think it. I might be like, uh,
you know the Fitzgerald that went.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Down, Oh that was a man, Bobby, three times begging
than you. His boat didn't sing, now, any of it, Willie.
Almost the whole time this boat had an erection. It
was all up in the front.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Good God, he didn't sit in the middle.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
You said it in the bag, baby, And the boat
was full on hard good. I wanted to put a
condom on it, Jesus. The boat was stating up. It
was so much fun. It was. It was a great
and it was It was a reminder of my childhood
because when I used to go to summer camp, we
were thrust upon each other with all different nationalities. So
it wasn't though you were a black kid, I'm a
white kid. You a Latino kid. You agent. We were
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all just children and we all got along. You know.
We just got along because we got along because we
were kids, not because we were colors and that's what's
wrong with the world. Now everybody's seeing color as opposed
to people. It's just crazy. But it was a great experience.
Thank you, Donille Rawlins Downielle Land is wonderful. Next year,
you guys, get your tickets, say look forward on Donille's site.
It was wonderful, wonderful, wonder I'm telling you, bring your kids,
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bring your dog, bring your bring your camping equipment, and
bring a great personality and leaa trolls at home because
it was just a wonderful experience. I just had to
get that out. And now we're back home to the
drawing boy. Good God on my bad Jesus, thank you,
and where we are this was This was also a
very very touching and hard weekend for me, Bobby, because
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I lost We lost a legend. We lost somebody that
I admire so much as I have impersonated her as
a character for more than twenty years, the late, great,
the one and only Miss Tina Turner herself. God, I
love to do Tina Tina and used to Tina was
my bread and butter for many years, Bobby. Because I
was known as a teen at turning female impersonator. I
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made so much money just doing Tea as a character.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You were the first person I thought of when I
heard it and it popped up, I immediately thought a
few I'm like, oh my god, that's you know, I mean,
she was. She was a remarkable woman who had through
the adversity of her life and the worst of circumstances.
She was the phoenix that rose again.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yes she was. She was quite what fifty sixty years
in the industry, and mind you, she was a black
woman the whole time. So imagine how hard it was
back then as a black entertainer and a woman, you know,
because it ain't just because you're black. America is very sexist.
And you know, she rose above all that. And then
she left this country because she wanted to be She
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went to your because she had experienced being treated as
a person. That is horrible to say, but so true.
She experienced being treated as a person, not an entertainer,
not black, not a woman, as a person, and she said,
you know what, I'm out of here. So she brought
her home in the south of France and lived and
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died there, and lived well and died well there. That
was a beautiful thing. Sometimes you got to go find
your joy, and Tina was a phenomenon. I used to
have the legs. I still got them, they're just not
as they're not as young and strong as they used
to be. But I used to have the legs. I
always had to smile, the tist together a little bigger.
But I loved to emulate Tina. I loved Tina's fireing,
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her energy. I love that resty voice, and I loved
that Tina was never nothing but hair, teeth, legs and
a smile. She was always That's who Tina was. And
energy energy.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I was just gonna say the same thing, and energy.
She kind of entered the room and everybody turned, regardless
of what condition, if she was all done up or
if she wasn't. And she married a much younger man.
My god, was he what was he? Was he Frond
or Swisser?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I think he was. I think he was Swiss. I
think he was.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Swiss, Okay, because I know she live there for she was.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I think he was German. And you got a job
in Switzerland and they moved there, and then she bought
the chateau in the south of FRANCEA but whatever the
case was, what I loved that she found in her life,
which is the most important. I know y'all think it's
money and fame success. I promise you that having somebody
to love you, that you can depend on and you
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could talk to, because killa talk is the greatest talk
in the world, that is so important to have that
comfortability level. And y'all know, I'll talk about love like.
I ain't called me in love, but I do love
that I have somebody that looks after me, that I
trust and I leave her when I need to. She
had that after all the abuse that she went through
with another partner, and then whatever the ups and downs
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of her career, in her life, she found somebody that
gave her joy to the end. That is always a
good thing.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, in peace. She died with her family around her,
and she was just at peace. And it also shows
you that you know, you have to take care of yourself,
because I swear that half of the stress that she
had led to some of those those medical conditions. You know,
it's just it's awful, but she was. She's going to
be sorely missed. Sure.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
She was a twice twice inductive to the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame. She's going to be she will
go on forever, and I love that they have been
playing so many tributes. I think Beyonce did a tribute
for her on one of her shows, and they've been
playing her on soultoime, on serious radio. They have just
turned it into a Tina turning station. I have heard
songs by Tina that I had never heard that I love.
I listened to Sam Cook's rendition.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Of I love that, I love that.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Yeah. I listened to Our Boy by the Real and
I had never heard Tina's version. I thought it was great.
But they played the Game of Love by Santana. That's
my favorite song, Aby Team that I loved to get
me a little bit, and I love my man in
Ohio by outside doing the show.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Did you come out like that at all?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I came out of Tina. I came on this show.
They went ag. I think the white people were still screaming.
I think they was. They were looking at one of
those hologram that was so much like Tina.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Oh my god, and that white dress that you have
that's like perfection.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Rights, little booty shaking dress. But yeah, rest in peace
to the great late great tending. We're losing so many
of the greats. But I love the fact that that
Dash from ninth, from nineteen thirty nine to twenty twenty three,
that Dash was a roller coaster of love for her.
She went up and down, and when she did go up,
she went to the stratus fifteen. It was the biggest
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star at one point in time of anyone.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Absolutely, And now she's I mean, if you believe in
an afterworld, she's with her baby. You know he died
five or six years ago.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Cause you know I didn't get in. I will sit
on the outside house and this bullshit, why I ain't
get in smoking a cigarette outside of her, I couldn't
get in.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
No, he's got your little purgatory time with us. Catholic said,
you got to do your time, a little purgatory time.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I'm scared of purgatory. I ain't got no fan. Rest
in peace to the late Gray tender Turner. The ladies.
You know, we all loved her. America loves her, Europe
loved her. I think people just loved her in general.
She was just a force of powerhouse of a person
in China and a woman. So yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
We love as Americans, we love an underdog We love
anybody that's that's fought back from adversity and and gone
on and done well and bring people along, you know.
So she was again, she just was. She was a
one in a million, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
And also, well, that was the death of a legend.
Now let's talk about the birth of a new legend,
of a legend in the making, because this past weekend
they had that live version of the The Mermaid. Did
you see it? Bbby?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I did see it, and you were just talking. I
was thinking a couple of times, a couple of sentences
you've already said. I was thinking that would be a
perfect segue. That would be a perfect segue inclusion. So
it wasn't just about having a little black girl as
a mermaid the the I don't want to ruin it
for people, but the family. So she know how, she's
got sisters. You know, we've all seen the cartoon version.
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They're all different ethnicities. It's inclusive. Yeah, it's just she
happened to be African American, but she has a Latina sister,
she has an Indian sister, she has an Asian sister,
she has a white sister. So I thought that was cool.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I know, I know that, daddy, because I know a
guy who got an Asian kid and a white kid
and his name ain't Titan. But I know that daddy.
Uh yeah, that that is what's great. And I love
that they used Melissa McCarthy to play.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
She was terrific.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I heard she was terrific. I heard she was and
I never knew she could carry a tune.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
She you know, like what she is as good as
the first note. But this is a girl who doesn't sing,
so she must have had vocal lessons. And she put
her own spin on it. You know, she she did it.
It was pretty much word for word, but she put
inflections that the original version didn't have. I thought she
was absolutely incredible. I loved it. Each person did a
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great job. I think that we should have you be
Sebastian's sister Crabb being like Sebastiana or so that's Genn
you could.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Oh no, let me tell you something. If I if
I had any part, I had to be the big
bitch that's in charge. I had to be Ursula. I
wanted to be.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I could see I could say, there's a character, Oh
my god, what is is it? Scuttle? There's a there's
a bird that's always got all the information and just
flying in. I could see you as that too, cou.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Know, I always get all the information, Bobby. I love
the fact that there was so many doubting Thomas's and
there was so much pushback because you know, this person
played this character, this color played that character. That the
movie broke box office records, made one hundred and seventeen
million dollars open weekend. It's still making crazy money. It's
getting great reviews.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, we have to get things a chance. Everybody got
an opinion about this, that and the third. But you
have to get things a change. And I love that
they proved all the doubting Thomas is wrong. I love that, Bobby.
It was.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
It was so inclusive that the show almost made color
in ethnicity. It went away. So the main character, the bull,
isn't as terrible. I can't think of his name, but
the prince, his mother was African American and he was white.
It just if you were the best, you got the
role period and it made us and you didn't see anything.
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You weren't looking for color. You were just looking for
the characters. You were looking for them to do the job. Well,
it was amazing. It was one hundred and eighty five million,
almost one hundred and eighty six worldwide. Unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah, that's pretty dope, and that is fantastic, and that
it will open up the door for other movies for
them to give other opportunities to people are not just color,
but different ethnicities, different backgrounds, to say, hey, you may
be an unknown or what have you, but we gonna
give you did Like you said, whoever you did the
best audition got the Yeah, that is what it should be.
But so many things are off name.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
That's and I feel, I mean, that's how the world
should be. Right. Whoever the best accountant is, whoever the
best whatever, the best person and most qualified should get
the position flung. We do have a little diversity because
we need a little bit. People have different mindsets, so
you want to have a little bit of everything, so
you think of everything.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
The best host should always be claiming it's just the truth.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Well, there you go, it's you'd be at It's.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
To Hollyberry and the cat all the cats. That congratulations
from you guys. That was fantastic. Okay, Bobby, where were
you going there?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So? Unfortunately you were telling us about your phenomenal kickoff
to the unofficial summer weekend. And there were there was
a shooting at on Hollywood, Florida, on the beach, on
the beach, well you know where else. There was a
shooting Chicago, Revan, Massachusetts, just a few miles from where
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I live. I forgot two separate incidents where nobody died.
But they had two separate incidents within an hour of
each other. So not all with handguns. The kid pulling
it out. Why they had it, they were all young.
Why this is how we have to resolve an issue,
I don't know. But the same as Hollywood, Florida. Hollywood
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had nine injuries and there were two men involved in
that one. Four children were hit between the ages of
one and seventeen, and then five adults between twenty five
and sixty five. They said they the police got five
handguns that were recovered. Two of them was stolen. And
it happened at seven pm. Revere Masks and Revere Beach
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is the first public beach in the United States of America.
And that's what it's, you know, that's what happened done
on our beach here.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Bullets. Bullets has no name when I was a kid
when they would shoot doing the Fourth of July. We
lived in the projects and they would shoot New Year's Eve.
We would have to get in the bathtub or get
between the walls because they were My grandmother would always say,
bullets ain't got no name. Unfortunately I was the early seventies.
Look where we are now. Bullets does not have a name.
You go out here recklessly shooting at whoever you mad at,
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or whoever you feel like. They cross shoe would have it,
and you don't, and you're not trained. You don't know
how to use weapons. Ronce have kickback. You shoot a gun,
you never hit the intended target, but you hit the
herson close to or close proximity because you have no training.
That is, I want them to remove some of these
guns off the street. But I'm more mad than these
people are just reckless with it, that damn it. If
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you're going to add a building, even if it's illegal,
can't your ask to the gun range and at least
learn how to use this weapon. You may kill your
your own kid or your own mama just because you
don't know what the weapon in your hand will do.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Because they're one twenty percent right, and one of these
shootings they actually that happened at reve Or Beach. They
had somebody was filming it. I think they were just
filming because there was a disagreement and they could see it.
The kid just raised the gun, put it in the air.
He just shot a shooting flam just you didn't know.
He wasn't even pointing it at anybody. But it could
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have gone into the buildings. It could have gone into
a car, am other nursing, or a baby in the
car because the hot night, because it was in the nineties,
you know, so just trying to get a nice school breeze.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Let me tell you what's so scary, Bobby, what's so
fascinating to me? Now? My son, I tried to show
him how to shoot. It's so comfortable playing the video
games with the shooting. Oh he shoots and kills everything.
But when I actually gave him the real weapon to
put in his hand, he was petrified. I think there's
a fascination with these kids when they you because of
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the video games and it's so real. But the real
thing you don't realize you're not killing the character on
the film, you're actually killing the person.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, you're exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
There is no there is no bridge in the middle
to let you know reality from fiction. I don't. I
think a lot of people just don't get that. I
don't know. I'm not perfect. I don't know, but I
just it seems so weird to me.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
It does with me too. And we don't even have
like lots of lots of guns in Boston. I mean,
of course we have guns, so I don't want people going, oh,
you're full of it, but we don't. It's so hard
to get a well, I should say, legalized guns, because
it's so hard to get a license. But this kid
just wasn't even it was so reckless. I don't know
who in the world he thought he was shoot. I
don't know if he even hit his intended target or
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if he hit other people. But three people were shot,
and they had to go to the hospital, all of
them none of them critical, thank god. But you know,
I don't know how the people in Florida dead. I
couldn't find an updated article that said that they were
released or whatnot. But a one year old being shot,
that's catastrophic. Here.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I can't even I can't even attack Florida. I was
in as much as I you know, I love to
go out to Florida. I can't because my home state,
my hometown, Chicago, Illinois, was off the rails this weekend
three day holiday weekend, Memorial Day weekend. Fifty one shot
from ages which ranged from age two till seventy six.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Can you imagine?
Speaker 4 (19:50):
No, and don't want to. And I love my city,
but I have no intention of going to visit my
city right now until they found out what is going
on there. I don't know that this gruntleman. I don't
know the anger or the bidding that people have, but
two to they shooting old people and babies, Bobby, nothing
is off limits. It is preponderously scary to live in
some of these cities. And that is why I appreciated
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the time that I had in Ohio. It was just
none of that.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
It was love, it was it was the reasoning.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
It was warming, it was calming, it was smiles, and
I mean we embraced. They got some large white people
in Ohio. Let me say, they got some very large
white people in Ohio like everybody. Yeah, they and they
all go together. Oh my god, I thought I thought
I was challenging with my top and bottom.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Oh my god, can you imagine the springs in that car?
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Could you imagine me trying to find your area when
you're trying to find man? Good god, it must be.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Like the fat slopping must sound like applause.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Ooh give me. But they were. Everybody was so pleasant
and so friendly. And I hate that the world is
like that because we see all this vile and I
think these kids just want to I don't think they
try to outdo each other, but I do think that
there is a copycad effect that if somebody is going
through some and I went and killed a shot of
a store with ten people, the next person, I got
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to out do that person. So they killed ten, I
gotta kill fifteen. I don't know the mindset of the youth.
I don't and I don't want to know.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
No, I don't understand it either, but I feel it
is reckless. I don't know if there's machismo, like they
have to prove themselves to somebody. But this isn't the way.
I'm back to what you had said. They have to
realize what the consequences of using that gun are, how
to use it correctly, and what the consequences are. But unfortunately,
I don't see that happening until we get have some
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sort of gun reform or gun control.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
And what happened to me for me, Bobby, I think
that when during the pandemic, when the kids were stuck
at home for two years, a lot of them, the
video game was with them for eighteen hours hours, right,
twenty four hour day and if all you're doing a
shooting and killing, and some of these video games are
extremely violent, and you know my children have them. I
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can't even last that my kids have and I'm looking,
I'm hearing the language and they raping women and killing
women and blowing a lot of these kids do not
know how to differentiate the truth from them, and it
just it carries over into real life and it's very
scary for us.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
It is. It's crazy, especially if they have no one's flamed.
So you're a parent and you're at home, and you
could if you hear something you don't like, you could
combat it and say, now, listen, you know that's not
But some kids don't have that. You know, there isn't
anybody at home or that can kind of show them
the way. It's super scary. You are afraid to go
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out to go to revia beat. I mean, I just
can't of imagine. So the beach is down below the water,
in the sand and you kind of sit on the
wall and people have pizza and stuff like, and you
can't even do that.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
The fear of going to public beaches was what a
shark bite, a mosquito bite, somebody drowning, you.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Know, not on someone's booze bottles.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Yeah, not not, no, not in any of this. The
world has changed so much for for horror, and as
much as we have much more information and fingertips, I
kind of wish we did. I sometimes kind of wish
that we did not.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
You know, it's true now that the news over the
past twenty years is you know, it's a cook of
a button. Then with social media, it's a it's a
second you know, you don't have to actually look it up.
It's just feeding continuously. It is scary.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
It is scary. It's not getting any better.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
No, I don't see it getting any better. Did you
see Chris Christy and Mike Pence are are a seto
announced they think next Tuesday and put their hat in
the ring for president.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
H Yeah, I just thought Chris christ I wouldn't vote
for Mike Pins that he was a Wools last year,
and I would not vote for Chris Christy because Chris
Chris is wished she washed it to me. And when
I say that, I actually liked him before that bridge incident,
and I liked him before he allowed Trump to walk
over him. And then he found himself and now he's
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the biggest advocate after Trump. But it's too late. The
damage has been done because you kissed the brass ring.
That is why I have no respect for Chris Christie.
You can't be you can't play both sides against the
middle for me, I don't I know.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Exactly what you're saying. If I had to choose between
the two, though, I got to tell you, I'm going
with Chris CHRISTI.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Oh yeah, I would go if I had to choose
between those two. But I think those two will even
make the ticket. Let me just be honest.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
No, I think they're distracting, But I mean it's better
than DeSantis. With his audio announcement, that was the weirdest
thing I ever heard on I don't know if Elon
Musk owns them, but he certainly has his live streaming.
Elon has got problems with it. Because there are more
glitches than that.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
That announcement, well, that was because Ron de Santas don't
want to debate. Rond de santa is not good at debating,
and he gets frazzled because Andrew Gilliam tore his ad
separate the Bates when they were running for governor. He
can't handle a debate. He cannot handle the confrontation. He's
not good with the confrontation.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
It's an opportunity lost, though, don't you think for him?
I mean to get your puss out there. He's a
decent looking man. It's not like he's quasimotives kid and
be able to announce it. Nobody will be arguing. Maybe
you'd have some heckler's I don't know, but I think
his people would take care. I don't know. An audio
that just seems.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Speaks volumes to the character that he does not have.
Because y'all let it go after Joe Biden. They let
it go out to Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
He on it.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
He Oh, Joe Biden ain't scared of the debate. Joe
Biden ain't scared to stand up your head. And for
the most part, he remembers all his words.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well, he mostly does, and if it don't, he comes
back to it. God bless YadA says he's getting older.
The only thing I can say about Joe and I
feel badly because I have a friend that has a stutter,
that it's easy when you can train yourself when you're younger,
and as you get older you have to think about
it more so you don't. And the worst thing that
he could possibly do as an older UH candidate is stutter.
(26:06):
So I do see him with his language. He's a
little slower and more calculated because he wants to. I
think he just wants to make sure he doesn't have
any mishaps. That way, to me, he's getting the he's
getting the job done. Not according to Bill O'Riley, who
thinks he's the leakest president in history.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Other than I will take I will take the stutter
over the hate. I would take the stutter over the hate.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Absolutely. He's He's not somebody that you're ever going to
get hate with. He's he's a compassionate, real person who's
had life tragedies himself. And I don't feel like he's
throwing them at you, But when he reminds you, it's
that he's really saying, I understand. You know, I've been
there and I and I understand, and I am so
sorry that this is happening to you too. So but
(26:45):
I thought that I thought Chris Christy was interesting since
the last time I spoke with you.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
That but I like, I liked Chris Christie before the
bridge incident and then I did. I liked him before
he jumped on the Trump bad where he drank the
kool aid. But now he has let the kool aid
run out of him and he's doing something else. I
don't like the wishy washed. If you were gonna be
with Trump, be with Trump. If you're gonna be against Trump,
be against Trump from jump. I can't take the back
(27:09):
of That's like Fauci Falaci was signed off with Trump
and then he had the name. I can't. I can't
trust that because I think for Chris.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
He wasn't listening to him at the end, and then
when all of a sudden, the last three weeks of
the presidency, when he started doing the really crazy stuff
that was I think he just washed his hands and
like this guy is He's just not going to listen
to a goddamn thing. I will say I love Chris
Christy when he debates or and he goes back and forth,
because I think they have a true friendship. With John
of Brazil on this week on the Sunday Morning Show,
(27:38):
they are hysterica together and she holds him accountable and
he holds her so I but she is such a
smooth way.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
I love her. Speaking of Chris Christy going back and forth,
would that be the donut shop or Kristy Kremes or
the people? I know?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
God bless him. I think he had that surgery. Blesses
a little high.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
I had the surgery right that he should want the
subway ahead. A tune it sounds with year.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Eida Carrot or something. The poor guy that shows that
he really uh, he doesn't do too well with the
with the stress or whatever that it kind of gets one.
Who is the other candidate that already announced? Was it
Tim Scott who had already announced?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
What do you think? Look who Tim? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I don't know much about him who other than he's
kind of got a gummy smile, you know, whenever I
hear his name and what, oh the guy with the gums.
I don't know, he doesn't there's nothing that he has said,
so far, that's that's interested me.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
He has been the pawn for that, for that party
for such a long time. He is just to me,
he is herschel Walker with an intelligendiction.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Oh, I was just gonna say he's better than the
herschel Walker.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Well, I mean it was his addiction, but his philosophy
and his ideology ain't much off. He is herschel Walker
with an intelligendiction.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, he's he actually went to his classes and got
the education. So so far this I don't think there's
absolutely anything that's in there other than that that's interesting
about the presidency.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Well, if here on something that's interest. The House just
secured the votes to pass the dead ceiling bill to
avert default.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
They did.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Okay, good, that sounds wonderful for the economy and for
the country to hold on that we ain't gonna break.
But there you got it. There's another side. There's a
side effect to that bill, y'all. And if you are
of a certain age and you are on EBT or whatever.
Now they're not adding no new government programs, they're not
adding no new social government program but in two years
(29:42):
they will be allowed. And they saying two years but
if the ron don ticket get in, it won't be
two years because they use the executive order all the time.
They will switch that. So if you are of a
certain age, you're gonna have to work and capacity not
to just to get EBT. And if you don't work
twenty hours of week, according to the rules, you have
to wait three years to reapply. So it's Bobby our age.
(30:06):
We had to go work to get eb T and
I'm like, I don't want to work this week, and
I did. If I fall short, I would have to
wait a whole another three years, yes, to reapply because
I didn't do what was required of me to get
my EBT. It is. It is a lot and no
new taxes on the rich, nothing on the reach. They
still get away with everything.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
It is. There are a lot better the angry though
on the Republican side, there was a ref Dan Bishop
who wants to vote to aust McCarthy because he feels
that he wasn't he didn't do too much. What I
think that he's failing to This is an extortion, you know.
This is there's supposed to be We're supposed to pay
(30:47):
our past bills. The debt sailing is money that we
already owe out, so you've got to pay your bills.
It should never have been held that to begin with.
Talk about politics being played. Nobody ever should have said,
you give me this and then we'll sign up, so
we pay our bills. They should have just paid the
goddamn bills. Should we get a hold of our spending? Absolutely,
(31:08):
it's out of control. It's under the Republicans as well.
Nobody has dealt with it that much. So, I mean,
they're gonna they're gonna do some things. They're going to
claw back some of the COVID relief. I think there
was twenty eight mil billion that hadn't been allocated yet.
They're keeping five billions so that in the COVID so
(31:29):
they can continue to examine and research vaccines and how
we can prevent or try to eradicate COVID. They're going
to cut some money for the Internal Revenue Service. Uh
that those monies we're going to we're going to go
to like customer service, you know, ways that would help
people be able to use the service better. It does
(31:53):
maintain climate and clean energy, although they're not very happy
about that, the Republicans, and it's expediting pipeline in West
Virginia and that will so that will stay. So it's
sort of you know what it if I can give
you a positive spin. There was compromise made on both sides.
That's what it's supposed to be about. It's supposed to
(32:15):
be with the two parties working together. This is what
people are being. The Democrats hired on Biden. Biden came
in saying that he wanted to work in a bipartisan fashion,
reach across the aisle, bring people over and work. So, yes,
he had to compromise as well. I'd like to see
it past the Senate and get our bills paid. It
would have been catastrophic as we know. If it didn't pass,
(32:36):
we would have lost our credit rating. And some people say,
big deal, Well it is a big deal. We can't
borrow money, just like you when you don't pay your bill,
you're not going to buy a car at a lower,
lower interest rate. You have to pay more. We don't
want to pay more as Americans for the money. So
I'm glad, I'm thrilled. Thank you very much for keeping me,
keeping me in the loop.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Bobby Cliffin is to me and hear me, and hear
me will. This is why it is so important for
Americans to vote and to vote your present. I always
say that I'm not trying to vote my future. My
future looks bleak, my present is. My past looks very scary,
but the present is the scariest thing that we are
living in right now. You don't need to worry what's
going to happen tomorrow. You got to get pasted today.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
It's true. The only thing I worried about was the
climate stuff, because that is for it's not going to
affect you or me as much, but will affect grandchildren,
you know, if we don't if we don't stuff to
clean up stuff. So I was thrilled. I mean, what
the Republicans wanted deeper spending cuts in stricter work requirements.
They wanted more so they didn't get that. And they
wanted to repeal billions of dollars that President Biden has
(33:45):
already put out there to transition to lower lower emissions.
They didn't get that. We wanted to raise taxes on
corporations and high earners. We didn't get that. And we
also didn't get something that Biden was really pushing for.
I think he's going to come back around and do
it in a different way. He wanted to take steps
to reduce medicare spending on prescription drugs. He's already done it,
(34:08):
and he wanted to do it in other ways to
try to bring costs down.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Flamance and people out there and laugh and learn, laying
please hear me and hear me well. I am a
staunch Democrat, but there are a lot of Republican values
that I agree with. I know a lot of y'all
ain't be saying this, but there are a lot of
Republican values that I agree with. The problem is not
the Republican values, it's the Republicans that are delivering them.
(34:33):
They are the assholes. I would love to be able
to work on the strings trail home Brown to take
care of my family, but you have to afford me
an equal opportunity to do that. That is the problem,
the racism and the hate because of color or gender
or whatever. If you want me to be able to
take care of me and my family fairly, then give
me a fair opportunity to be able to work and
(34:54):
do that. That's all I'm asking. I like the whole
I don't want to be the crutch. I don't need
a crutch. I've had a crutch before. I want to
be able to work off the strength of my brow,
my talent. And when I say this, when I talk
about Republicans, I'm not just talking about Republican Party. I'm
talking about even with my own community. You can't expect
me to be this, that, and the third. And you
want me to be who you want me to be,
(35:15):
but you don't treat me fairly. I have to take
care of my family. Did you consider my feelings when
you tried to take things away from me? So why
would I not consider your feelings? You have to do that.
And I'm not talking to no one person in general.
I love that the Republican Party pushes These are your children,
these you work for them. We're going to make sure
you're taking care of you got their housing. But we
(35:35):
need to be fair. Now a lot of Republicans don't
think like that. God do I miss Ron Paul? God
do I miss Ron Paul. He was the greatest Republican
to me, the.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Old I miss all the old. So that on the
Democrat side, I miss Tiff O'Neill, I miss Teddy Kennedy,
the people who could literally reach across and bring people over.
They would duke it out on the floors of Congress
in the Senate during the day, and then they'd be
out at night having oh plan, let's go for dinner.
You're go into Bill's steakhouse. They didn't actually hate each other,
(36:07):
They just had different ideologies and they fought for their constituents.
Now I feel like the constituents are last. I feel
like it's something personal and they're a special interest. Were
more and what's being fought for rather than the people
that elected them.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Which is why there are people like myself and Bobby
Cliff and to bring the world together. Because I'm gonna
tell you right now, me and Bobby don't always agree
on everything, but you will never know it. That's because
i'd be our private conversation. But but where you find
the common ground is what America was supposed to be
made on. You were supposed to find a common ground
(36:42):
and say, hey, we may not cook the meal the
same way, but we can eat at the same table.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
That's exactly right. Just talk about the American dream. Flame.
When you were in Ohio, everybody at a function getting along,
not talking about everything else. The focus was on family
and fun and that's how we use that's how we
used to be. And then your your political ideology. We
actually we didn't even talk about it before. Now I
(37:10):
feel like people wear buttons when they go out. You know,
I've got my neighborhood Trump twenty twenty four already on
the lawn. I'm like, it's only twenty you know, this
is before he even said he was going to run.
You know, we didn't have that. It's it's unfortunate. I wish,
I wish we'd come back. I love I've got some
of my best friends are are Republicans. We just they
(37:31):
have different ideology. Less government for some reason. They don't
mind being in our uterus, but but less government for
everything else. And that's okay, But I think we need more.
So I have a special needs sister. I see what
what not having means can do, and I feel like
we need to at least take care of our weaker party,
the elderly and the special needs.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
That and and I'm at it and that number one.
Number one, so disregarding to the people who have put
their lives on the line, lost limbs, lost their minds,
you know, they still live and they don't know they
lost their mind, they lost they lost their ability. They
will to want to have to fight, to want to
fight because you took it. They went over there and
(38:13):
they did all that they need to do to help
this country, and then when they came back, you treat
you discarded them like trash. I think the Betters are
probably more peed on than than black and brown people
in this country. And that's say it, that's say I.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Agree with that. I think especially medically. So you go
to the VAS and they have some of the best
collisions at the VAS, but nobody were not fully taking
care of bills. And when I say that, it costs
money if you don't live near the VA and you
have to go get a hotel because you have to.
You know that you have to go to the VA
for something we should be covering whatever that cost is.
(38:48):
The kopeys, the parking, the you know, these people don't
have a dollar, they don't have a pot to so
many of them exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
And then they suffered no mental illness. They suffer from
PTSD because they have experienced They walk me and you
walking down a field and you blow up next to me.
I have to live with that. I have to live
through that. I have to live past that and hope
that I don't step on You know, it's so many
things that people don't consider, but it's just this is
the world that we have created to live in.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
It is I will say that they that as far
as funding for what I could read that they're not
touching anything with the veterans. What President Biden wanted to
do those He wanted to grow the program, and I
don't know if they're going to give us the money
to grow the program. You know, we have to keep
non defense spending under or at one percent. I don't
know if that's part of the one percent or if
(39:38):
they would consider that defense spending. It should be, it
should be part of the defense. But you know, we
can't just be building bombs and trucks to send these
boys and girls over with. That should be part of
the full package.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
That's when y'all building bombs, a million dollar planes and
shit that don't work. They don't never even get off
the ground or they don't work. So usement all this
money on a weapon that you don't work, and so
when you get frustrated with it, you sell to another
country they perfected and then use it on us. Oh
that's next week's topic. Okay, listen, listen. Arms war didn't
(40:11):
saw with us you. I only decide the arms. Well,
you got to go all the way back to Oliver
North and Ronald Reagan for that one we got. That's
a whole other subject.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Y'all.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Don't give me to remind of y'all, because you know
I didn't had an edible. I'm feeling I remember everything
right now. Listen, ladies, yell, thank you so much for
joining us here, living laughing. I'm hoping that with this
podcast that you come in here for the open a
free man to listen, to learn, because I surround myself
with people that teach me that I learned from, include
(40:42):
which includes Bobby Cliff, which is one of my favorite
hoses on here. I am not the smartest person. I
know y'all think that I am not, and some things
I am uninformed about. But I am a sponge that
is willing to take it in if you're willing to
give it to me. That's the problem. A lot of
y'all has closed your sponge hope, so you won't learn.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
It's the truth. That's all you want from somebody. What
you want someone who's got unbelievable common sense like you
have and a willingness to learn right. And that's about
a lot of these subjects when we're discussing that we're
going to talk about, I have to look them up,
but I'm willing to and it's interesting. And then I
kind of peel them back on my own time and
see if I can get more information. So yeah, that's
(41:21):
how this is our opinion.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
That's because you got the assignment by because here at
Laugh and Learn, we are not trying to get you
to change your mind. We are only trying to get
you to use your mind, because their mind is a
terrible thing to waste. Some of y'all waste my time
and your man, and please don't because I ain't got
no damn for your time or your man. But I
love that you guys come. This is our three three
years in we have been having the best time. I
(41:44):
think my one of producers is to Aaron, who always
keep us on even keel even when I'm backwards, and
my great co host Bobby and sometimes TTG. I appreciate
that you guys come in hit me with information we
transfer because that's what Laugh and Learnt Coffee time was
always about a transfer of information. I can't teach you
and you can't teach me, and we're not listening to
(42:06):
each other. That's the truth. So thank you for joining
us here at laughing on Bobby cliff that's my too, yut,
that's too thank you. I think I may you love lounge.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Maybe oh you're a liar, gonna it's gonna really kick
it in a few minutes. You'll be looking for a
snack and then your bed.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Maybe nothing, Where's something come between the snack and to
be well, there you go. We ain't talking about that
right now. We appreciate you guys for joining us. Listen
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We have lost so many legends, but Tina Turner was
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Speaker 3 (01:10):
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Hey, no this do what you do? Can't no this?
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Do what you do? Can't no you what I do?
No this? Hey hey, hey, welcome to laugh and learn.
(01:42):
I am your host, Flaming Roe, and today almost is
the new the son of a new month. We are
at May thirty first, almost six months into the year,
and I would love to say that America has gotten better,
but absolutely not. So today we're gonna talk about it.
I am here with my wonderful producer, mister Aaron, and
my girl, my one and only girl. Mistook to somebody.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Cliff and hello, Bobby, Hi, saying.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I'm glad you here to join me because I've been
all over the place I was. I was on a
whirlwind tour in Yellow Springs, Xenia and Springfield, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Good god, oh, tell us all about it.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Springfield, Ohio will never be the same. They was already
Trump country. They were scared of black folks. But when
they started black training come through, I think they fell
in love.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Baby.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Oh my god, I had the best time. Thank you
Yellow Springs, Xenia and Springfield, Ohio. Thank you Downielle Robins.
We were at Downie or Land this weekend, Bobby, and
it is a gathering of people from all nationalities, all
walks of life. We barbecue, we paddleboarded, we were on canoes,
we played kickball, we played cars. We joined together. And
(02:48):
he had a podcast on Monday. And I'm sitting on
the stage with no makeup. I'm looking just about like
I look right now, and I'm looking at the audience
of everything. When I say everything, everything, and they say
playing and what does Danielle Land mean to you? And
I said, I'm looking at America. This is America to me,
this is the America that I grew up and everybody
just getting along, fragnize it, fixing each other. Place. There
(03:10):
were large whites, large black, small, black, small, agent. Everybody
was a family. Nobody was in Louis being shot or
being beat up. There was no profanity. It was so
many kids around. The kids were interacting. That is the
America I grew up in, and unfortunately that is not
the America that I know right now. But I remember
that that was it, and I was glad to be
(03:31):
reminded of this is what is America, not what they're pushing.
So it was a beautiful path for me. I had
a great time. I was introduced to twenty six hundred
new people because they had me host to show it
was Trump Country. I came out and told a joke
about Joe Biden, but of course I had to give
them what they needed. I told one about Trump too.
I said, Trump like the grad woman by the pussy.
I hope he grabbed man. He's gonna be stroking for
(03:52):
nine inches. They lost it. They loved me because I
did not attack their leader. I made fun of their leader.
It's a very big difference when you don't attack, but
if you make fun of Because they know it too.
They laughed with me, not at me, They laughed with me.
It was a great experience, Bobby, and I was glad
to go. So next year we got to go about it.
Are you gonna get in the boat, Bobby Clifford.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Sweet Jesus, I might think it. I might be like, uh,
you know the Fitzgerald that went.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Down, Oh that was a man, Bobby, three times begging
than you. His boat didn't sing, now, any of it, Willie.
Almost the whole time this boat had an erection. It
was all up in the front.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Good God, he didn't sit in the middle.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
You said it in the bag, baby, And the boat
was full on hard good. I wanted to put a
condom on it, Jesus. The boat was stating up. It
was so much fun. It was. It was a great
and it was It was a reminder of my childhood
because when I used to go to summer camp, we
were thrust upon each other with all different nationalities. So
it wasn't though you were a black kid, I'm a
white kid. You a Latino kid. You agent. We were
(04:54):
all just children and we all got along. You know.
We just got along because we got along because we
were kids, not because we were colors and that's what's
wrong with the world. Now everybody's seeing color as opposed
to people. It's just crazy. But it was a great experience.
Thank you, Donille Rawlins Downielle Land is wonderful. Next year,
you guys, get your tickets, say look forward on Donille's site.
It was wonderful, wonderful, wonder I'm telling you, bring your kids,
(05:16):
bring your dog, bring your bring your camping equipment, and
bring a great personality and leaa trolls at home because
it was just a wonderful experience. I just had to
get that out. And now we're back home to the
drawing boy. Good God on my bad Jesus, thank you,
and where we are this was This was also a
very very touching and hard weekend for me, Bobby, because
(05:36):
I lost We lost a legend. We lost somebody that
I admire so much as I have impersonated her as
a character for more than twenty years, the late, great,
the one and only Miss Tina Turner herself. God, I
love to do Tina Tina and used to Tina was
my bread and butter for many years, Bobby. Because I
was known as a teen at turning female impersonator. I
(05:58):
made so much money just doing Tea as a character.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You were the first person I thought of when I
heard it and it popped up, I immediately thought a
few I'm like, oh my god, that's you know, I mean,
she was. She was a remarkable woman who had through
the adversity of her life and the worst of circumstances.
She was the phoenix that rose again.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yes she was. She was quite what fifty sixty years
in the industry, and mind you, she was a black
woman the whole time. So imagine how hard it was
back then as a black entertainer and a woman, you know,
because it ain't just because you're black. America is very sexist.
And you know, she rose above all that. And then
she left this country because she wanted to be She
(06:38):
went to your because she had experienced being treated as
a person. That is horrible to say, but so true.
She experienced being treated as a person, not an entertainer,
not black, not a woman, as a person, and she said,
you know what, I'm out of here. So she brought
her home in the south of France and lived and
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died there, and lived well and died well there. That
was a beautiful thing. Sometimes you got to go find
your joy, and Tina was a phenomenon. I used to
have the legs. I still got them, they're just not
as they're not as young and strong as they used
to be. But I used to have the legs. I
always had to smile, the tist together a little bigger.
But I loved to emulate Tina. I loved Tina's fireing,
(07:20):
her energy. I love that resty voice, and I loved
that Tina was never nothing but hair, teeth, legs and
a smile. She was always That's who Tina was. And
energy energy.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I was just gonna say the same thing, and energy.
She kind of entered the room and everybody turned, regardless
of what condition, if she was all done up or
if she wasn't. And she married a much younger man.
My god, was he what was he? Was he Frond
or Swisser?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I think he was. I think he was Swiss. I
think he was.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Swiss, Okay, because I know she live there for she was.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I think he was German. And you got a job
in Switzerland and they moved there, and then she bought
the chateau in the south of FRANCEA but whatever the
case was, what I loved that she found in her life,
which is the most important. I know y'all think it's
money and fame success. I promise you that having somebody
to love you, that you can depend on and you
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could talk to, because killa talk is the greatest talk
in the world, that is so important to have that
comfortability level. And y'all know, I'll talk about love like.
I ain't called me in love, but I do love
that I have somebody that looks after me, that I
trust and I leave her when I need to. She
had that after all the abuse that she went through
with another partner, and then whatever the ups and downs
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of her career, in her life, she found somebody that
gave her joy to the end. That is always a
good thing.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, in peace. She died with her family around her,
and she was just at peace. And it also shows
you that you know, you have to take care of yourself,
because I swear that half of the stress that she
had led to some of those those medical conditions. You know,
it's just it's awful, but she was. She's going to
be sorely missed. Sure.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
She was a twice twice inductive to the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame. She's going to be she will
go on forever, and I love that they have been
playing so many tributes. I think Beyonce did a tribute
for her on one of her shows, and they've been
playing her on soultoime, on serious radio. They have just
turned it into a Tina turning station. I have heard
songs by Tina that I had never heard that I love.
I listened to Sam Cook's rendition.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Of I love that, I love that.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Yeah. I listened to Our Boy by the Real and
I had never heard Tina's version. I thought it was great.
But they played the Game of Love by Santana. That's
my favorite song, Aby Team that I loved to get
me a little bit, and I love my man in
Ohio by outside doing the show.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Did you come out like that at all?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I came out of Tina. I came on this show.
They went ag. I think the white people were still screaming.
I think they was. They were looking at one of
those hologram that was so much like Tina.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Oh my god, and that white dress that you have
that's like perfection.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Rights, little booty shaking dress. But yeah, rest in peace
to the great late great tending. We're losing so many
of the greats. But I love the fact that that
Dash from ninth, from nineteen thirty nine to twenty twenty three,
that Dash was a roller coaster of love for her.
She went up and down, and when she did go up,
she went to the stratus fifteen. It was the biggest
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star at one point in time of anyone.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Absolutely, And now she's I mean, if you believe in
an afterworld, she's with her baby. You know he died
five or six years ago.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Cause you know I didn't get in. I will sit
on the outside house and this bullshit, why I ain't
get in smoking a cigarette outside of her, I couldn't
get in.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
No, he's got your little purgatory time with us. Catholic said,
you got to do your time, a little purgatory time.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I'm scared of purgatory. I ain't got no fan. Rest
in peace to the late Gray tender Turner. The ladies.
You know, we all loved her. America loves her, Europe
loved her. I think people just loved her in general.
She was just a force of powerhouse of a person
in China and a woman. So yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
We love as Americans, we love an underdog We love
anybody that's that's fought back from adversity and and gone
on and done well and bring people along, you know.
So she was again, she just was. She was a
one in a million, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
And also, well, that was the death of a legend.
Now let's talk about the birth of a new legend,
of a legend in the making, because this past weekend
they had that live version of the The Mermaid. Did
you see it? Bbby?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I did see it, and you were just talking. I
was thinking a couple of times, a couple of sentences
you've already said. I was thinking that would be a
perfect segue. That would be a perfect segue inclusion. So
it wasn't just about having a little black girl as
a mermaid the the I don't want to ruin it
for people, but the family. So she know how, she's
got sisters. You know, we've all seen the cartoon version.
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They're all different ethnicities. It's inclusive. Yeah, it's just she
happened to be African American, but she has a Latina sister,
she has an Indian sister, she has an Asian sister,
she has a white sister. So I thought that was cool.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I know, I know that, daddy, because I know a
guy who got an Asian kid and a white kid
and his name ain't Titan. But I know that daddy.
Uh yeah, that that is what's great. And I love
that they used Melissa McCarthy to play.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
She was terrific.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I heard she was terrific. I heard she was and
I never knew she could carry a tune.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
She you know, like what she is as good as
the first note. But this is a girl who doesn't sing,
so she must have had vocal lessons. And she put
her own spin on it. You know, she she did it.
It was pretty much word for word, but she put
inflections that the original version didn't have. I thought she
was absolutely incredible. I loved it. Each person did a
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great job. I think that we should have you be
Sebastian's sister Crabb being like Sebastiana or so that's Genn
you could.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Oh no, let me tell you something. If I if
I had any part, I had to be the big
bitch that's in charge. I had to be Ursula. I
wanted to be.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I could see I could say, there's a character, Oh
my god, what is is it? Scuttle? There's a there's
a bird that's always got all the information and just
flying in. I could see you as that too, cou.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Know, I always get all the information, Bobby. I love
the fact that there was so many doubting Thomas's and
there was so much pushback because you know, this person
played this character, this color played that character. That the
movie broke box office records, made one hundred and seventeen
million dollars open weekend. It's still making crazy money. It's
getting great reviews.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Yeah, we have to get things a chance. Everybody got
an opinion about this, that and the third. But you
have to get things a change. And I love that
they proved all the doubting Thomas is wrong. I love that, Bobby.
It was.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
It was so inclusive that the show almost made color
in ethnicity. It went away. So the main character, the bull,
isn't as terrible. I can't think of his name, but
the prince, his mother was African American and he was white.
It just if you were the best, you got the
role period and it made us and you didn't see anything.
(14:16):
You weren't looking for color. You were just looking for
the characters. You were looking for them to do the job. Well,
it was amazing. It was one hundred and eighty five million,
almost one hundred and eighty six worldwide. Unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah, that's pretty dope, and that is fantastic, and that
it will open up the door for other movies for
them to give other opportunities to people are not just color,
but different ethnicities, different backgrounds, to say, hey, you may
be an unknown or what have you, but we gonna
give you did Like you said, whoever you did the
best audition got the Yeah, that is what it should be.
But so many things are off name.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
That's and I feel, I mean, that's how the world
should be. Right. Whoever the best accountant is, whoever the
best whatever, the best person and most qualified should get
the position flung. We do have a little diversity because
we need a little bit. People have different mindsets, so
you want to have a little bit of everything, so
you think of everything.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
The best host should always be claiming it's just the truth.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Well, there you go, it's you'd be at It's.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
To Hollyberry and the cat all the cats. That congratulations
from you guys. That was fantastic. Okay, Bobby, where were
you going there?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So? Unfortunately you were telling us about your phenomenal kickoff
to the unofficial summer weekend. And there were there was
a shooting at on Hollywood, Florida, on the beach, on
the beach, well you know where else. There was a
shooting Chicago, Revan, Massachusetts, just a few miles from where
(15:48):
I live. I forgot two separate incidents where nobody died.
But they had two separate incidents within an hour of
each other. So not all with handguns. The kid pulling
it out. Why they had it, they were all young.
Why this is how we have to resolve an issue,
I don't know. But the same as Hollywood, Florida. Hollywood
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had nine injuries and there were two men involved in
that one. Four children were hit between the ages of
one and seventeen, and then five adults between twenty five
and sixty five. They said they the police got five
handguns that were recovered. Two of them was stolen. And
it happened at seven pm. Revere Masks and Revere Beach
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is the first public beach in the United States of America.
And that's what it's, you know, that's what happened done
on our beach here.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Bullets. Bullets has no name when I was a kid
when they would shoot doing the Fourth of July. We
lived in the projects and they would shoot New Year's Eve.
We would have to get in the bathtub or get
between the walls because they were My grandmother would always say,
bullets ain't got no name. Unfortunately I was the early seventies.
Look where we are now. Bullets does not have a name.
You go out here recklessly shooting at whoever you mad at,
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or whoever you feel like. They cross shoe would have it,
and you don't, and you're not trained. You don't know
how to use weapons. Ronce have kickback. You shoot a gun,
you never hit the intended target, but you hit the
herson close to or close proximity because you have no training.
That is, I want them to remove some of these
guns off the street. But I'm more mad than these
people are just reckless with it, that damn it. If
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you're going to add a building, even if it's illegal,
can't your ask to the gun range and at least
learn how to use this weapon. You may kill your
your own kid or your own mama just because you
don't know what the weapon in your hand will do.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Because they're one twenty percent right, and one of these
shootings they actually that happened at reve Or Beach. They
had somebody was filming it. I think they were just
filming because there was a disagreement and they could see it.
The kid just raised the gun, put it in the air.
He just shot a shooting flam just you didn't know.
He wasn't even pointing it at anybody. But it could
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have gone into the buildings. It could have gone into
a car, am other nursing, or a baby in the
car because the hot night, because it was in the nineties,
you know, so just trying to get a nice school breeze.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Let me tell you what's so scary, Bobby, what's so
fascinating to me? Now? My son, I tried to show
him how to shoot. It's so comfortable playing the video
games with the shooting. Oh he shoots and kills everything.
But when I actually gave him the real weapon to
put in his hand, he was petrified. I think there's
a fascination with these kids when they you because of
(18:28):
the video games and it's so real. But the real
thing you don't realize you're not killing the character on
the film, you're actually killing the person.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, you're exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
There is no there is no bridge in the middle
to let you know reality from fiction. I don't. I
think a lot of people just don't get that. I
don't know. I'm not perfect. I don't know, but I
just it seems so weird to me.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
It does with me too. And we don't even have
like lots of lots of guns in Boston. I mean,
of course we have guns, so I don't want people going, oh,
you're full of it, but we don't. It's so hard
to get a well, I should say, legalized guns, because
it's so hard to get a license. But this kid
just wasn't even it was so reckless. I don't know
who in the world he thought he was shoot. I
don't know if he even hit his intended target or
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if he hit other people. But three people were shot,
and they had to go to the hospital, all of
them none of them critical, thank god. But you know,
I don't know how the people in Florida dead. I
couldn't find an updated article that said that they were
released or whatnot. But a one year old being shot,
that's catastrophic. Here.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I can't even I can't even attack Florida. I was
in as much as I you know, I love to
go out to Florida. I can't because my home state,
my hometown, Chicago, Illinois, was off the rails this weekend
three day holiday weekend, Memorial Day weekend. Fifty one shot
from ages which ranged from age two till seventy six.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Can you imagine?
Speaker 4 (19:50):
No, and don't want to. And I love my city,
but I have no intention of going to visit my
city right now until they found out what is going
on there. I don't know that this gruntleman. I don't
know the anger or the bidding that people have, but
two to they shooting old people and babies, Bobby, nothing
is off limits. It is preponderously scary to live in
some of these cities. And that is why I appreciated
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the time that I had in Ohio. It was just
none of that.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
It was love, it was it was the reasoning.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
It was warming, it was calming, it was smiles, and
I mean we embraced. They got some large white people
in Ohio. Let me say, they got some very large
white people in Ohio like everybody. Yeah, they and they
all go together. Oh my god, I thought I thought
I was challenging with my top and bottom.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Oh my god, can you imagine the springs in that car?
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Could you imagine me trying to find your area when
you're trying to find man? Good god, it must be.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Like the fat slopping must sound like applause.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Ooh give me. But they were. Everybody was so pleasant
and so friendly. And I hate that the world is
like that because we see all this vile and I
think these kids just want to I don't think they
try to outdo each other, but I do think that
there is a copycad effect that if somebody is going
through some and I went and killed a shot of
a store with ten people, the next person, I got
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to out do that person. So they killed ten, I
gotta kill fifteen. I don't know the mindset of the youth.
I don't and I don't want to know.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
No, I don't understand it either, but I feel it
is reckless. I don't know if there's machismo, like they
have to prove themselves to somebody. But this isn't the way.
I'm back to what you had said. They have to
realize what the consequences of using that gun are, how
to use it correctly, and what the consequences are. But unfortunately,
I don't see that happening until we get have some
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sort of gun reform or gun control.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
And what happened to me for me, Bobby, I think
that when during the pandemic, when the kids were stuck
at home for two years, a lot of them, the
video game was with them for eighteen hours hours, right,
twenty four hour day and if all you're doing a
shooting and killing, and some of these video games are
extremely violent, and you know my children have them. I
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can't even last that my kids have and I'm looking,
I'm hearing the language and they raping women and killing
women and blowing a lot of these kids do not
know how to differentiate the truth from them, and it
just it carries over into real life and it's very
scary for us.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
It is. It's crazy, especially if they have no one's flamed.
So you're a parent and you're at home, and you
could if you hear something you don't like, you could
combat it and say, now, listen, you know that's not
But some kids don't have that. You know, there isn't
anybody at home or that can kind of show them
the way. It's super scary. You are afraid to go
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out to go to revia beat. I mean, I just
can't of imagine. So the beach is down below the water,
in the sand and you kind of sit on the
wall and people have pizza and stuff like, and you
can't even do that.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
The fear of going to public beaches was what a
shark bite, a mosquito bite, somebody drowning, you.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Know, not on someone's booze bottles.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Yeah, not not, no, not in any of this. The
world has changed so much for for horror, and as
much as we have much more information and fingertips, I
kind of wish we did. I sometimes kind of wish
that we did not.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
You know, it's true now that the news over the
past twenty years is you know, it's a cook of
a button. Then with social media, it's a it's a
second you know, you don't have to actually look it up.
It's just feeding continuously. It is scary.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
It is scary. It's not getting any better.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
No, I don't see it getting any better. Did you
see Chris Christy and Mike Pence are are a seto
announced they think next Tuesday and put their hat in
the ring for president.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
H Yeah, I just thought Chris christ I wouldn't vote
for Mike Pins that he was a Wools last year,
and I would not vote for Chris Christy because Chris
Chris is wished she washed it to me. And when
I say that, I actually liked him before that bridge incident,
and I liked him before he allowed Trump to walk
over him. And then he found himself and now he's
(24:11):
the biggest advocate after Trump. But it's too late. The
damage has been done because you kissed the brass ring.
That is why I have no respect for Chris Christie.
You can't be you can't play both sides against the
middle for me, I don't I know.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Exactly what you're saying. If I had to choose between
the two, though, I got to tell you, I'm going
with Chris CHRISTI.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Oh yeah, I would go if I had to choose
between those two. But I think those two will even
make the ticket. Let me just be honest.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
No, I think they're distracting, But I mean it's better
than DeSantis. With his audio announcement, that was the weirdest
thing I ever heard on I don't know if Elon
Musk owns them, but he certainly has his live streaming.
Elon has got problems with it. Because there are more
glitches than that.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
That announcement, well, that was because Ron de Santas don't
want to debate. Rond de santa is not good at debating,
and he gets frazzled because Andrew Gilliam tore his ad
separate the Bates when they were running for governor. He
can't handle a debate. He cannot handle the confrontation. He's
not good with the confrontation.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
It's an opportunity lost, though, don't you think for him?
I mean to get your puss out there. He's a
decent looking man. It's not like he's quasimotives kid and
be able to announce it. Nobody will be arguing. Maybe
you'd have some heckler's I don't know, but I think
his people would take care. I don't know. An audio
that just seems.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Speaks volumes to the character that he does not have.
Because y'all let it go after Joe Biden. They let
it go out to Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
He on it.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
He Oh, Joe Biden ain't scared of the debate. Joe
Biden ain't scared to stand up your head. And for
the most part, he remembers all his words.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well, he mostly does, and if it don't, he comes
back to it. God bless YadA says he's getting older.
The only thing I can say about Joe and I
feel badly because I have a friend that has a stutter,
that it's easy when you can train yourself when you're younger,
and as you get older you have to think about
it more so you don't. And the worst thing that
he could possibly do as an older UH candidate is stutter.
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So I do see him with his language. He's a
little slower and more calculated because he wants to. I
think he just wants to make sure he doesn't have
any mishaps. That way, to me, he's getting the he's
getting the job done. Not according to Bill O'Riley, who
thinks he's the leakest president in history.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Other than I will take I will take the stutter
over the hate. I would take the stutter over the hate.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Absolutely. He's He's not somebody that you're ever going to
get hate with. He's he's a compassionate, real person who's
had life tragedies himself. And I don't feel like he's
throwing them at you, But when he reminds you, it's
that he's really saying, I understand. You know, I've been
there and I and I understand, and I am so
sorry that this is happening to you too. So but
(26:45):
I thought that I thought Chris Christy was interesting since
the last time I spoke with you.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
That but I like, I liked Chris Christie before the
bridge incident and then I did. I liked him before
he jumped on the Trump bad where he drank the
kool aid. But now he has let the kool aid
run out of him and he's doing something else. I
don't like the wishy washed. If you were gonna be
with Trump, be with Trump. If you're gonna be against Trump,
be against Trump from jump. I can't take the back
(27:09):
of That's like Fauci Falaci was signed off with Trump
and then he had the name. I can't. I can't
trust that because I think for Chris.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
He wasn't listening to him at the end, and then
when all of a sudden, the last three weeks of
the presidency, when he started doing the really crazy stuff
that was I think he just washed his hands and
like this guy is He's just not going to listen
to a goddamn thing. I will say I love Chris
Christy when he debates or and he goes back and forth,
because I think they have a true friendship. With John
of Brazil on this week on the Sunday Morning Show,
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they are hysterica together and she holds him accountable and
he holds her so I but she is such a
smooth way.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
I love her. Speaking of Chris Christy going back and forth,
would that be the donut shop or Kristy Kremes or
the people? I know?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
God bless him. I think he had that surgery. Blesses
a little high.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
I had the surgery right that he should want the
subway ahead. A tune it sounds with year.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Eida Carrot or something. The poor guy that shows that
he really uh, he doesn't do too well with the
with the stress or whatever that it kind of gets one.
Who is the other candidate that already announced? Was it
Tim Scott who had already announced?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
What do you think? Look who Tim? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I don't know much about him who other than he's
kind of got a gummy smile, you know, whenever I
hear his name and what, oh the guy with the gums.
I don't know, he doesn't there's nothing that he has said,
so far, that's that's interested me.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
He has been the pawn for that, for that party
for such a long time. He is just to me,
he is herschel Walker with an intelligendiction.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Oh, I was just gonna say he's better than the
herschel Walker.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Well, I mean it was his addiction, but his philosophy
and his ideology ain't much off. He is herschel Walker
with an intelligendiction.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, he's he actually went to his classes and got
the education. So so far this I don't think there's
absolutely anything that's in there other than that that's interesting
about the presidency.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Well, if here on something that's interest. The House just
secured the votes to pass the dead ceiling bill to
avert default.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
They did.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Okay, good, that sounds wonderful for the economy and for
the country to hold on that we ain't gonna break.
But there you got it. There's another side. There's a
side effect to that bill, y'all. And if you are
of a certain age and you are on EBT or whatever.
Now they're not adding no new government programs, they're not
adding no new social government program but in two years
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they will be allowed. And they saying two years but
if the ron don ticket get in, it won't be
two years because they use the executive order all the time.
They will switch that. So if you are of a
certain age, you're gonna have to work and capacity not
to just to get EBT. And if you don't work
twenty hours of week, according to the rules, you have
to wait three years to reapply. So it's Bobby our age.
(30:06):
We had to go work to get eb T and
I'm like, I don't want to work this week, and
I did. If I fall short, I would have to
wait a whole another three years, yes, to reapply because
I didn't do what was required of me to get
my EBT. It is. It is a lot and no
new taxes on the rich, nothing on the reach. They
still get away with everything.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
It is. There are a lot better the angry though
on the Republican side, there was a ref Dan Bishop
who wants to vote to aust McCarthy because he feels
that he wasn't he didn't do too much. What I
think that he's failing to This is an extortion, you know.
This is there's supposed to be We're supposed to pay
(30:47):
our past bills. The debt sailing is money that we
already owe out, so you've got to pay your bills.
It should never have been held that to begin with.
Talk about politics being played. Nobody ever should have said,
you give me this and then we'll sign up, so
we pay our bills. They should have just paid the
goddamn bills. Should we get a hold of our spending? Absolutely,
(31:08):
it's out of control. It's under the Republicans as well.
Nobody has dealt with it that much. So, I mean,
they're gonna they're gonna do some things. They're going to
claw back some of the COVID relief. I think there
was twenty eight mil billion that hadn't been allocated yet.
They're keeping five billions so that in the COVID so
(31:29):
they can continue to examine and research vaccines and how
we can prevent or try to eradicate COVID. They're going
to cut some money for the Internal Revenue Service. Uh
that those monies we're going to we're going to go
to like customer service, you know, ways that would help
people be able to use the service better. It does
(31:53):
maintain climate and clean energy, although they're not very happy
about that, the Republicans, and it's expediting pipeline in West
Virginia and that will so that will stay. So it's
sort of you know what it if I can give
you a positive spin. There was compromise made on both sides.
That's what it's supposed to be about. It's supposed to
(32:15):
be with the two parties working together. This is what
people are being. The Democrats hired on Biden. Biden came
in saying that he wanted to work in a bipartisan fashion,
reach across the aisle, bring people over and work. So, yes,
he had to compromise as well. I'd like to see
it past the Senate and get our bills paid. It
would have been catastrophic as we know. If it didn't pass,
(32:36):
we would have lost our credit rating. And some people say,
big deal, Well it is a big deal. We can't
borrow money, just like you when you don't pay your bill,
you're not going to buy a car at a lower,
lower interest rate. You have to pay more. We don't
want to pay more as Americans for the money. So
I'm glad, I'm thrilled. Thank you very much for keeping me,
keeping me in the loop.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Bobby Cliffin is to me and hear me, and hear
me will. This is why it is so important for
Americans to vote and to vote your present. I always
say that I'm not trying to vote my future. My
future looks bleak, my present is. My past looks very scary,
but the present is the scariest thing that we are
living in right now. You don't need to worry what's
going to happen tomorrow. You got to get pasted today.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
It's true. The only thing I worried about was the
climate stuff, because that is for it's not going to
affect you or me as much, but will affect grandchildren,
you know, if we don't if we don't stuff to
clean up stuff. So I was thrilled. I mean, what
the Republicans wanted deeper spending cuts in stricter work requirements.
They wanted more so they didn't get that. And they
wanted to repeal billions of dollars that President Biden has
(33:45):
already put out there to transition to lower lower emissions.
They didn't get that. We wanted to raise taxes on
corporations and high earners. We didn't get that. And we
also didn't get something that Biden was really pushing for.
I think he's going to come back around and do
it in a different way. He wanted to take steps
to reduce medicare spending on prescription drugs. He's already done it,
(34:08):
and he wanted to do it in other ways to
try to bring costs down.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Flamance and people out there and laugh and learn, laying
please hear me and hear me well. I am a
staunch Democrat, but there are a lot of Republican values
that I agree with. I know a lot of y'all
ain't be saying this, but there are a lot of
Republican values that I agree with. The problem is not
the Republican values, it's the Republicans that are delivering them.
(34:33):
They are the assholes. I would love to be able
to work on the strings trail home Brown to take
care of my family, but you have to afford me
an equal opportunity to do that. That is the problem,
the racism and the hate because of color or gender
or whatever. If you want me to be able to
take care of me and my family fairly, then give
me a fair opportunity to be able to work and
(34:54):
do that. That's all I'm asking. I like the whole
I don't want to be the crutch. I don't need
a crutch. I've had a crutch before. I want to
be able to work off the strength of my brow,
my talent. And when I say this, when I talk
about Republicans, I'm not just talking about Republican Party. I'm
talking about even with my own community. You can't expect
me to be this, that, and the third. And you
want me to be who you want me to be,
(35:15):
but you don't treat me fairly. I have to take
care of my family. Did you consider my feelings when
you tried to take things away from me? So why
would I not consider your feelings? You have to do that.
And I'm not talking to no one person in general.
I love that the Republican Party pushes These are your children,
these you work for them. We're going to make sure
you're taking care of you got their housing. But we
(35:35):
need to be fair. Now a lot of Republicans don't
think like that. God do I miss Ron Paul? God
do I miss Ron Paul. He was the greatest Republican
to me, the.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Old I miss all the old. So that on the
Democrat side, I miss Tiff O'Neill, I miss Teddy Kennedy,
the people who could literally reach across and bring people over.
They would duke it out on the floors of Congress
in the Senate during the day, and then they'd be
out at night having oh plan, let's go for dinner.
You're go into Bill's steakhouse. They didn't actually hate each other,
(36:07):
They just had different ideologies and they fought for their constituents.
Now I feel like the constituents are last. I feel
like it's something personal and they're a special interest. Were
more and what's being fought for rather than the people
that elected them.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Which is why there are people like myself and Bobby
Cliff and to bring the world together. Because I'm gonna
tell you right now, me and Bobby don't always agree
on everything, but you will never know it. That's because
i'd be our private conversation. But but where you find
the common ground is what America was supposed to be
made on. You were supposed to find a common ground
(36:42):
and say, hey, we may not cook the meal the
same way, but we can eat at the same table.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
That's exactly right. Just talk about the American dream. Flame.
When you were in Ohio, everybody at a function getting along,
not talking about everything else. The focus was on family
and fun and that's how we use that's how we
used to be. And then your your political ideology. We
actually we didn't even talk about it before. Now I
(37:10):
feel like people wear buttons when they go out. You know,
I've got my neighborhood Trump twenty twenty four already on
the lawn. I'm like, it's only twenty you know, this
is before he even said he was going to run.
You know, we didn't have that. It's it's unfortunate. I wish,
I wish we'd come back. I love I've got some
of my best friends are are Republicans. We just they
(37:31):
have different ideology. Less government for some reason. They don't
mind being in our uterus, but but less government for
everything else. And that's okay, But I think we need more.
So I have a special needs sister. I see what
what not having means can do, and I feel like
we need to at least take care of our weaker party,
the elderly and the special needs.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
That and and I'm at it and that number one.
Number one, so disregarding to the people who have put
their lives on the line, lost limbs, lost their minds,
you know, they still live and they don't know they
lost their mind, they lost they lost their ability. They
will to want to have to fight, to want to
fight because you took it. They went over there and
(38:13):
they did all that they need to do to help
this country, and then when they came back, you treat
you discarded them like trash. I think the Betters are
probably more peed on than than black and brown people
in this country. And that's say it, that's say I.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Agree with that. I think especially medically. So you go
to the VAS and they have some of the best
collisions at the VAS, but nobody were not fully taking
care of bills. And when I say that, it costs
money if you don't live near the VA and you
have to go get a hotel because you have to.
You know that you have to go to the VA
for something we should be covering whatever that cost is.
(38:48):
The kopeys, the parking, the you know, these people don't
have a dollar, they don't have a pot to so
many of them exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
And then they suffered no mental illness. They suffer from
PTSD because they have experienced They walk me and you
walking down a field and you blow up next to me.
I have to live with that. I have to live
through that. I have to live past that and hope
that I don't step on You know, it's so many
things that people don't consider, but it's just this is
the world that we have created to live in.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
It is I will say that they that as far
as funding for what I could read that they're not
touching anything with the veterans. What President Biden wanted to
do those He wanted to grow the program, and I
don't know if they're going to give us the money
to grow the program. You know, we have to keep
non defense spending under or at one percent. I don't
know if that's part of the one percent or if
(39:38):
they would consider that defense spending. It should be, it
should be part of the defense. But you know, we
can't just be building bombs and trucks to send these
boys and girls over with. That should be part of
the full package.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
That's when y'all building bombs, a million dollar planes and
shit that don't work. They don't never even get off
the ground or they don't work. So usement all this
money on a weapon that you don't work, and so
when you get frustrated with it, you sell to another
country they perfected and then use it on us. Oh
that's next week's topic. Okay, listen, listen. Arms war didn't
(40:11):
saw with us you. I only decide the arms. Well,
you got to go all the way back to Oliver
North and Ronald Reagan for that one we got. That's
a whole other subject.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Y'all.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Don't give me to remind of y'all, because you know
I didn't had an edible. I'm feeling I remember everything
right now. Listen, ladies, yell, thank you so much for
joining us here, living laughing. I'm hoping that with this
podcast that you come in here for the open a
free man to listen, to learn, because I surround myself
with people that teach me that I learned from, include
(40:42):
which includes Bobby Cliff, which is one of my favorite
hoses on here. I am not the smartest person. I
know y'all think that I am not, and some things
I am uninformed about. But I am a sponge that
is willing to take it in if you're willing to
give it to me. That's the problem. A lot of
y'all has closed your sponge hope, so you won't learn.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
It's the truth. That's all you want from somebody. What
you want someone who's got unbelievable common sense like you
have and a willingness to learn right. And that's about
a lot of these subjects when we're discussing that we're
going to talk about, I have to look them up,
but I'm willing to and it's interesting. And then I
kind of peel them back on my own time and
see if I can get more information. So yeah, that's
(41:21):
how this is our opinion.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
That's because you got the assignment by because here at
Laugh and Learn, we are not trying to get you
to change your mind. We are only trying to get
you to use your mind, because their mind is a
terrible thing to waste. Some of y'all waste my time
and your man, and please don't because I ain't got
no damn for your time or your man. But I
love that you guys come. This is our three three
years in we have been having the best time. I
(41:44):
think my one of producers is to Aaron, who always
keep us on even keel even when I'm backwards, and
my great co host Bobby and sometimes TTG. I appreciate
that you guys come in hit me with information we
transfer because that's what Laugh and Learnt Coffee time was
always about a transfer of information. I can't teach you
and you can't teach me, and we're not listening to
(42:06):
each other. That's the truth. So thank you for joining
us here at laughing on Bobby cliff that's my too, yut,
that's too thank you. I think I may you love lounge.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Maybe oh you're a liar, gonna it's gonna really kick
it in a few minutes. You'll be looking for a
snack and then your bed.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Maybe nothing, Where's something come between the snack and to
be well, there you go. We ain't talking about that
right now. We appreciate you guys for joining us. Listen
to me. Follow Bobby Clifford on social media at Bobby
Clifford on Instagram, on Facebook, where else you at, Bobby that's.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Really I mean that barely on those, but that's right.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
And follow me on YouTube at Flame Monroe, Instagram at
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I did a whole production. Just type Google or type
me Inflame, my roll, Tina Turner and you pop. It
(43:12):
was a great production number. God I see wish I
had those legs, but it was great, and it was
it's in great memory of a legend that we have lost.
We have lost so many legends, but Tina Turner was
one of the absolute best. She was simply the best.
I think that's what we should call this podcast, simply
the best. She was simply the best, better than all
the rest. And I appreciated her and I love doing her.
(43:34):
And if you guys want to book me hit a
bit yup, I'm ready. Thank you Bobby Cliff for note,
Thank you Flame Matt, Thank you. Laugh and Learned World,
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