The Selection Before The Election feat. Rizza Islam

Flame Monroe is back with another powerful episode with special guest, thee esteemed Rizza Islam. Listen as they unpack the latest in politics, gender identity politics, the forthcoming 2024 elections and much more. Join the conversation and comment in the socials below.

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Speaker 1 (00:23):
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(00:44):
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(01:05):
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(01:41):
Monroe and welcome to this week's episode of Laugh and
Learn here with my wonderful producer, mister Aaron. Listen you guys,
I missed you all last week, but I'm so glad
I'm back this week. We are going to have an
amazing time today. I got a conversation I want to
have with somebody who who piques my interests, And y'all
know I'm not interested in much, but he it's my interests. Uh.

(02:02):
He sparks my few. He makes me think about who
I am and why I am who I am in
this country. And I'm not talking about my sexuality. I'm
talking about this beautiful badge, a body that God bless
me with, this topic of melody that I love. So
I'm not gonna even go down the whole list and
all of that. We're not going to do all that.
I just want you, guys, all my flamemts to welcome
to good brother mister Zard Islam to the show. Ladies,

(02:24):
y'all makes a Nord. I'm a whole proud of myself.
Come on, I'm you know, I'm honored to be here
with you. I know you were there with me, so
we were foundly. So this is a beautiful thing. And
as soon as you said I need you to come
on show, I'll say, and you tell me the time
of the day. And I appreciate you being so so
just Um, what's the word I want to say? Um? Oh,

(02:47):
I can't think of it. I just said a brain. Well,
I appreciate you being so receptive. Well, I want you
my audience. I understand is that the zon is a
full on Muslim, I full on train as woman. The
optics are beautiful, the heart is magnificent, the color is
the same. But we are Americans. Once you guys, to

(03:09):
always remember that, then whatever your presentation you see, if
you born an American, you're an American, You're an American.
We had the greatest, dopest conversation yesterday on Reason's platform
on um, oh, let me get a fight, let me
get it right. Oh oh, I can't even think of
it at all. What's the name of an intellectual extremists?

(03:30):
My job messed up that name three times trying to
sit actual uh. And it was great. It was a
it was an honest It was not an interview. It
was an honest conversation between two American black people in
this country, which is what we're gonna do today because
right now you were so instrumental and so inspirational for

(03:51):
me during the pandemic when my mind was I was
teeter tiring on the fits about if I wanted to
get back toinated, and I just listened to so many
different peop but when I ran across you, it really
made me sit down and think of what I wanted
to do, now what somebody else wanted me to do.
It made me think about what I wanted to do.
And I know you're a couple of years younger to me,

(04:12):
I'm only thirty nine, but I wanted to know. And
this is why I want younger people to understand what
older people. It's not that we don't listen to that
we don't want to learn. We just it depends on
who's coming from and how you are transferring that information. Right,
We're clear you were genuine and concise them in a

(04:33):
lot to me, why was this so important for you?
It's what I want to ask for you to stand
your ground when it came down to the back thing. Absolutely.
First thing is my mother's a naturopathic doctor, right, so
she was a medical nurse first, so she knew the
ins and outs of what the system was doing. She
was trained by them, She understood the system. She was
trained in the system, and she had a problem with

(04:56):
the system because they started to push nothing but pharmaceut
of course, so it was natural pathic remedies during no vitamins, minerals,
exercise proper dive. That's how it used to be until
they switched everything to take a pill. Take a pill,
take a pill for everything, Take a pill. And so
she saw that as a problem. So she said, you
know what, I'm going to switch into naturopathing. So she
started to pursue the naturopathic remedies and just stayed right there.

(05:19):
And that's how she raised us. We were raised right
here in Compton, California, probably one of the only families
who didn't get sick. None of us took shots. Anytime
we had any kind of sniff or anything we could
golden seal Alavia like that's we went to that. So
from that point, just in my childhood, I was always
raised to be this way. So as a point when
it came to these shots and people not learning about

(05:40):
the history, number one, and it's not just Tuskegee. Tuskegee
actually is one of the small circumstances compared to all
the rest of the other circumstances. But when I started
to see what they were doing to the people, I said,
I can't sit here knowing that I've been involved in
this topic for nearly a decade, long before this virus.
In this whole process, Oh, there was there was plenty
of us, please others that I personally were involved in,

(06:03):
and I said, I can't sit here and let the
people get lied to like this. I just I can't
do it. I at least I'm going to give you
information that we can make your own decision. That's what
it's mean about from the very beginning for me. Get
the right information so you can make your own decisions.
That's that is. That is fantastic, And I'm telling you
reason out. I was. I'm I'm not anti vaccine though
I'm not even a Bac saint, but it was the

(06:24):
way that it was presented to me. It was warp
speed and then to sit outside and the sun and
get to go for three days rest off. It was
just made me nervous. And I'm like, I got too
much foreign pronicle in my body. As it is with
the black market silicone, I got breast in plants, I axios.
What of them to those two different ingredients don't get along.

(06:45):
It ain't let you. I could take a spoon and
stick it in and pull one of them out, right,
That's true. But the limb or lost my ability to
see you. No, I just was like I was afraid
everybody would like saw But I love the fact stood
on that and I watched you do that because I
I think for myself, I want to ask you because
I got a lot of backlash right not taking the
dam and did you You know what, It's not that

(07:10):
I received backlash because people pretty much knew, like I said,
they knew me for years before this about other shots,
so they've already known. But the same thing, it's not
that I was against shots in general period. It's that
you have to be informed about everything on both ends,
a good and a bad. And that's the problem that
I noticed, which was, you know, doctors and medical professionals,

(07:30):
they have something called informed consent. This is what they're
supposed to give the patient. But the sad thing is
if you don't tell them I want to get informed consent,
then they are not necessarily going to give it to you,
which means they're going to give you the good and
the bad, the positives and the negatives and the alternatives.
So if I want to take this shot, what are
some of the other things that I could do? They're
don't give you a naturopathic route, to give you the

(07:51):
herbalist route, to give you the nutritionist route. That's what
informed consent is. They're supposed to give you these things.
But because they were not doing that and they were
attacked and people and all that, I said, well, you
can attack me, but you're gonna attack me. Just know
you're gonna get all the smoke with all the facts.
That's all you're gonna get coming from me. And that's
what they ended up doing. That's why they didn't bring
you on certain platforms. But the platforms I did go on,

(08:13):
they got all these facts. And today it stands true
everything that we said. That's that confident in you, that
can I ask feel a personal question. Where you raised
by mom and dad or just a single parent? Most
of my mother? Let me tell I tell your mother,
I'm taking my head and my wig off to her.
I admire you. You let me tell what I out

(08:34):
you the most, that you stand on, what you believe.
It is so many whishy watching people out here with
the masses and don't use their own brain. And I'm
telling you, because it's the most popular does not always
make it the most right. And it needs to feel
right to you. And I love that about it. And
I watched you take a lot of heat. We watch

(08:55):
I just watched Pupid think when you get when it
came out with all the foolishness at the Twitter has
shut you down and we found that that you were
on the list of the FBI and everything. How did
that affect your career? I want to know about you
know what? You you know how it feels to be
black ball, to be talked about, to have jobs removed
from you, to have some of your own colleagues not

(09:18):
respond to you anymore and not pick up the fall.
You know how this feels. But for me again, because
I'm not necessarily in the commercial world. I'm not in
the performing arts, you know, for example, and I'm not
in sports and things like that. It didn't necessarily do
much in that arena, but it did do certain things
when it came to speaking engagements, interaction with certain platforms.

(09:39):
People not wanting to be around me, because you know,
when you hear FBI list, you hear in government watch lists,
some people take that as a badge of honor, which
I did. I absolutely did. I said, wait a minute,
so you're attacking me because I'm speaking the truth that
benefits the human family. I'm not just fighting for black folk,
I'm fighting for everybody right and you attack me because

(09:59):
of that to that as a badge of honor. Did
it affect my money? Yes it did. Did they shut
down my platforms absolutely, because we use social media, you know,
to sell our products and to you know, make the
things known that we want people to know or to
promote whatever we're doing. So when they cut my Facebook
at over one hundred and thirty thousand followers, they cut
my YouTube at one hundred and forty nine thous subscribers,

(10:20):
they cut my original Instagram at over half a million followers,
which two and a half three years ago, I was
over half a million followers back then. So if they
didn't shut me down, I'll probably be upwards a four
or five million, right, So all of that affected me
financially absolutely, and indeed cause people to kind of shy
away from me because they got nervous. They got really nervous,
like wait a minute, matter of fact, I'll tell you

(10:42):
this blame. When that happened, they announced this from the
White House. From the White House, they said the list
of twelve people, they said they are called that disinformation.
Does you're talking about? Jen Saki, who was the former
White House Press secretary, said these people are dangerous. They
announced this from the White House. Once that happened, I
had the first two artists. I'm not em gonna say

(11:03):
their names, but two major artists, celebrities called me asking
me was I okay, saying that they knew I was
doing the work. They knew I was helping the people
fighting for us, they said, but man, I didn't realize
that it was to this degree that the government is
really pissed off at you and eleven other people. Man,
this is crazy, And I said, no, this is really
what it looks like in modern time when you truly

(11:24):
standing up on principle against this system. There are levels
to this thing that says, so now y'all see what
it really looks like. Who was one of those people,
Nick Cannon we heard from? And I want to ask
you as a black man, and it just as a man.
This has nothing to do with your faith or your religion.
Did you ever rethink where maybe I should not have

(11:45):
because I have had that because just like you, I
was blacklisted. I've lost money from my own community because
I speak the way I speak and feel how I feel.
But in my head I was like, well, maybe I
should have rethought, and the maybe and then something took
over me. It's like no, because then I'm lying to myself.
I can Latin to other people. I can't look far

(12:06):
and Latin me. It's hop that's right, that's right. I'll
tell you know it. For I was always raised this way. See,
I was never a conditioned to look up to the
system in any way. I didn't believe in white Jesus,
I didn't believe in sounding clause. I didn't. I'm not
indoctrinated at all. Whatsoever should I say, for the most part,
to my knowledge, So therefore I never had that as

(12:26):
a mentality. But then again, my reality is different so
other people like yourself who had that, Because you're like,
wait a minute, this is really messing up my livelihood.
It does cause you, from a responsible viewpoint, like, wait
a minute, maybe I could up going about that in
a more wise way. Be could I have said it differently?
It's natural to think that way. For me, I said,
I knew exactly what I was getting myself into. I

(12:47):
already knew now that I think they were going to
move as swiftly as they did. Hell no, I did
not expect it to move so quick. But when it happened,
I said, you know what, I'm not surprised. I will
say the other part of it was that it did
hurt slightly because people who you think really are going
to stand there next to you be there for and

(13:07):
you said they're gonna, they're gonna be right there, some
of those people were not. That was the only thing
I will say, you know, but outside of that, I
expected everything else. With you being such a religious person,
would you believe because I'm strong believer in God? Absolutely?
Did it make you run to your faith more because
your faith is shaken? Your faith? I ran to God

(13:28):
on my knees, on my faith down like this didn't
don't let my mouth, which you gave me as a gift,
also be my confident. I don't want yes critical point.
Absolutely absolutely, that's that's definitely, that's where we That's where
my faith goes before and after these trials, before and after.
You know what I mean, we we always say, you know,

(13:49):
I seek refuge. I seek refuge, envied all a lot
from the accursed Satan, you know, I mean, I'll always
seek a refuge because I know this is a battlefield
we're going out too. So make sure of me, protect me,
shield me, you know, give me the strength that I
need the guidance, you know, the motivation to stand on integrity.
A lot of people, you know, they say I'm with
God and with God. But once the integrity is tested,

(14:10):
like you said, it's a lot of people who don't
make it because your faith starts to go more into money, money,
money versus God. And it's like, okay, how what how
much does a dollar cost? For real? For some people,
like what he really willing to sacrifice to make it
to that other side? Because you already know the rich man,
he would give up all of his wealth to have

(14:30):
another day of life. He tried to get into head.
He tried to pay God to get into head. And
it's like, yo, he really, you're not gonna that. Don't
work around there. And there's certain things that we have
to you know, understand, is that some of us don't
have a price. And once you get to that, you know,
people who get to that point, they see us and
they respect us more because they have multimillion dollar companies,

(14:51):
but they don't have no peace, They don't have people
that they can trust around them, They don't have a
sincere group of family members who they can love because
they don't cut everybody of y'all sacrifice people. They you know,
cut corners just to get to where they are, and
a lot of them regret it, you know. So so
making money, it's not a problem. It's how we do it,
you know, It's just how we do it. Now, were

(15:11):
you raised in the Muslim faith or did you become
a Muslim after he became a grown up. I was
actually raised in the nation of this Islam. And I
mean everything from praying in Arabic, all of that happened.
I was praying Arabic before I knew what I was
saying in English. The brother, my baby brother is a
practice in Muslim Now he's in there, he's been into

(15:34):
the faith for a few years. He just breaks out
in phrase three or four times a day, and it's
sabbaticals and everything. And so when he knew that I
was talking with you, and he's like, because my Marcus,
he said, Mark, you're talking brothers. I said, he said,
oh my gosh, wow. Yeah. See, I've told you get
a lot of love speaking to anyone else. But when

(15:55):
he knew I was talking to you, he almost had
a belt that wow, because this is what's going to
blow people's mind. When I was on the Breakfast Club
the last time I talked about how I listened to
the teachers of the minister, Minister Rachon and teaching me,
reminding me that I'm a black man, a black person
in this country, and but my presentation is so different.
And when I got it, I told that as an

(16:17):
email from one of the brothers of the nation. So
and when you told me what you told me yesterday,
I want you to know that made my heart. My
heart smile. It really made you, said ba. I told
some of the brothers I was interviewing you, and they
smiled and then up. You know, that is kind of
a heard of to me that a would accept a
person of a transgender experience like you know, not like

(16:39):
welcome me into the fall, but just to be cool
to want to listen to me. Come on, I don't
know what, don't seriously risk. I'm telling you, I'm being
a woman a long task. I have went over many
many hurdles and heels and dealt with all types of
people from even when I was in prison to politics
everywhere and everybody. Just because they have don't have a

(17:00):
religious faith, they don't open up to me because my
presentation is strong, and I stand on who I am.
I'm not going to eat for nobody but guy he
got personally. Yeah, I can't explain these titties. I told you, brothers,
because you know a lot of people think that the

(17:20):
Muslim brothers, starting with the leader spell Hey, I never heard.
How is it that you and these brothers can show
this solidarity towards somebody like me? And I'm asking a
very honest and genuine question. No, no, I'll said this way.
And see, one thing that a lot of people get
mixed up is the religious dog with the spiritual practice. See,

(17:41):
we were spiritual people. We have a lifestyle. That's that's
another thing. We don't really have a religion. We have
a lifestyle, all right. So that means you don't sacrifice
your people because you think they're not worthy to go
along with the practice. And now that means you separate.
Now it's like on the hold on. We all came
about a hill. A lot of us came from families
who did drugs, soul drugs, was in prison. We came

(18:03):
out of prison, some of us ourselves that being on
the street, in the street, around the street, we just
come on seeing we gotta we gotta keep things real
for some people out here. That's why when I talk
to people and I'm like, I'm a black man from Compton.
At the end of the day, you can say whatever
you want to say. My family then did it at all?
From like I said, drugs, game bang and I got bloods,
crips my family. I just had a family gathering because

(18:26):
you know, I lost my older brother, one of my
older brothers recent so we had a going away ceremony
for him. I'm talking about bloods right here, crips right here,
some of them drinking over there, something the smoke it
over there, and here I am. I'm an active us
the nation of this law, Bony's family. I don't need
to judge my family you're talking about. It's like, wait
a minute, I can be in that grave in two minutes.

(18:48):
So why am I gonna waste my time trying to
judge you knowing that, like you said, you having your experience.
But you know, at the end of the day, what
this system sees you, as sees me, as sees us
as they don't give it them. We can call ourselves
with them whatever we want to call ourselves. Yeah, like
you are expendable and we're gonna get rid of you
as quickly as we can. That's it, you know. So
we're family at the end of the day. That's all

(19:08):
I got to say. I love that. And and first
of all condos is for your brother. Excuse me, but uh,
And I love that you see people. That is hard.
I tell people see the people I'm seeing what they
look like or what what the Nolin nations they are
to see the pros to see me. I'm so fair

(19:29):
with that, which is why I'm treated so differently. And
one community it's treated so another way. In my own community,
it's ly to me. But I'm i'm, I'm I'm like
you were telling me that too yesterday, which um, which
blew my mind because to be honest with you, like
you said, Minneso Farcan doesn't spew hate. We don't spew hate.

(19:50):
It's just the true haters who happen to control a
large amount of influence in media or banking or sports
and industry of you know, I perform arts, acting, etc.
When we speak the truth about this system, the people
who run the system don't like the fact that we're
speaking the truth about the fact that they run the system.

(20:10):
They say we're haters. And it's like, but you don't
have any documented, you know, circumstance of us attacking anybody
outside of self defense because we not know soft people either.
All right, we do believe in self defense, but we
don't go out attacking people. We don't attack you because
of your agender. We don't attack it because your religion.
We don't attacking because of your gang relation, your politics.

(20:30):
That's not how we are. We do our best to
be civilized and be a good example because we know
we came from the same situations. That's it. So we
just do our best to be a good example. Most
of their lives. Muhammad said, don't condemn the dirty glass,
simply put a clean glass up next to it. Just
be a good example. That's all I meant so far
our concept. And he said, I love my family who

(20:52):
is LGBT and this and that. He's like that, don't
that'll move me? He said, But how you treat people?
Does that? Man there, and so many Muslim brothers yourself included,
have just I love, you know what. I love the
sense of family and community that the Muslim brothers push,
especially over than their wives and their women. Because spinning

(21:16):
me in a so disrespect. And I'm not talking about
just black men. I'm just talking about me and in general,
so dis to women, you know, and fair minister, fair count.
I always teaches love your wife and and and watching
over the black He talks about the black woman. But
and I know he means women in general. But I
know he he though he's part of a talks about
us and that and that is you know where he's

(21:37):
not this. He don't need to be. He wasn't raised
in the white out holes. He was raised in a
black house. We can only what we damn No, I
was raised in a black house. I know what it
is to have a black mother. But they and not
admonishes women and holds women up. I wish some of
these younger brothers would hear that and learn that and
understand that you will never be a successful man in
this life. To me, this is my opinion without good

(22:00):
women or good woman on your side. That's a fact.
I strongly believe that. You know. And and when I
say that as a trans woman, they're like, well what
that So if it's a fifth, if you got you
a good man on your side or whatever you have,
I'm looking at that too, But I'm just saying that
you need a partner in life to lean on to

(22:24):
in terms of this and that now you both hold
your own equal weight. But I love that he because
I'm old school, so I believe that the man is
supposed to take care of the household. And I pushes
that and so me if the woman got to do this.
Some of these young brothers philosophy is so off to me.
Reason I'm like, I can't even get it. You can't
get through to him because a man is fucked up. Yeah,
this left but it And they look at me like

(22:48):
I'm an anomaly, like are you a man or you
a woman? I say, I'm flaming row. I don't need
to be anything else. There's no explanation I need for
nobody else. But your brothers be so powerful. And you know,
after haven sit down with you yesterday, came home and
watch the watch in Malcolma, the police station. The point. Now,

(23:10):
I love it. I'd love to see that. That's the
reason why having the conversations are necessary, because, believe it
or not, you know when you bring up the minister
and then how we treat our women, et cetera. And
you said you can't get through this life without having that,
you know, good strong woman next to us, especially growing
up in our communities. You know how this is. Our
families have been destroyed and strategically divided. But you know,

(23:31):
you you have an image of a time where you
saw most of our families together or at least practicing
that mentality of family being together. That that was. It
was a little different now because social media, because we're
looking up to these false idols in certain people in
relationships that don't even really exist. They don't practice what
they preach, and they're putting up a good facade for

(23:52):
some of them, but in it's all these false standards
being put up. So our generation is getting caught up
in this track watching these people, and it's like, wait
a minute, I'm going to first of all, not only
have a woman. I'm going to be married, because we're
taught that we're only fifty percent a Muslim until we
get married. We're not even to reel a full man
until we get married. That's what we're taught in the nation.

(24:13):
So I'm like waiting and I'm not there handicap the
whole top fifty mins. I'm at it right, So I'm like, okay.
Until that happens, we can't even fully call ourselves that
because that means we are completing the other half of
our faith when we come together. See it's it makes
it more of an obligation to have a level of discipline,
build yourself up, you know, sharpen yourself as a man,

(24:33):
so that when you finally do come in contact with
the proper woman, you can treat her the way she
needs to be treated, respect our she needs to be respected.
And they're taught the same way as sisters, you see,
because this whole world to change us into something that's
crazy as hell. You know, on the base level, no morals,
no ethics, don't treat nobody the way you want to
be treated, just crazy, regardless to your orientation, regardless to
your politics, regardless to or read any of that. We

(24:56):
have to be able to treat others the way we
want to be treated. So that's how we're taught. But
when it it comes to how we treat filled, the
sisters were very critical about that because of how we
were manipulated and I would say reverse engineer, taking out
of our manhood and all of our humanity into something
that's an enement so we have to relearn that. You know,

(25:18):
yesterday you're not we're talking politics and I brought up
Biden and I know you're not a biding supporter. I'm
not a politics but yeah, are you right? But we
can't we can't get away from because they're always gonna
keep like, take us to your leader. I wish with
did the aliens to come? I wish the leader was
that other one that orto because I out of took
the aliens get take it with yall. But so with

(25:41):
you not? So do do you vote? I knew im
ote locally for the most part, but almost part because
I know that directly can be UM obligatory meaning they
have to buy by that mayor city council, school boards,
all that stuff. WI. Everybody should be doing that regardless
in your city because that affects directly, absolutely, exactly exactly.

(26:04):
And then when it comes to that as far as
the presidential election, UM, I haven't participated in that. I
would say maybe the last two presidencies. Uh, you have it,
but you did? Did you vote for president the first time?
But that second time? I have to ask you why

(26:27):
because I've absolutely Well. The first thing is, you know,
we have to always remember that this system is the
system it has. It does not respect any person that
has its own agenda, and it has to survive. It
base itself in the system of white supremacy, and it's
doing its best to survive. The crazy part is that
we believe that if someone who looks like us gets

(26:49):
access to that seat, that they are now going to
do things for us because they now have the seat,
when the reality is the seat is the seat, no
matter who sits in it. Sometimes to make it a
crazier person sitting in it, a person who may care
more about one demographic of people than the next, a
person who may say I'm here to do this or that.
But the seat is the seat, and it always has
its own pre written agenda, literally before you even sit

(27:12):
in it. So Obama, we're taught, was selected before he
was elected. And okay, what I mean they really he
was a good community organized in Chicago, did a lot
of beautiful work in Chicago. I mean, he was really
doing some good work. So the brother he's not some
somebody who just popped up. No, he really was doing
legit and the good work. But when they became the presidency,

(27:35):
they already had a pre written script so that they
could do certain evil things with it. His face, a
black man's face on it, so that they could later
on say say, look we put your guy in there.
Look look what your boy did you see. So now
a lot of people blabe Obama for everything bad. Was
like half the stuff y'are talking about was under Bush.
Some of the other stuff was under Clinton. So but
you know, like, wait a minute, so you're just you're

(27:56):
just trying to fast the black man. Wait a minute,
this is the seat of the president of the United
States or y'all got to remember this. So he didn't
go in there and do all these different things. The
system did what it did had his face in it,
and some of these moves he did contribute to as well.
So he has take responsibility for the good and the bad.
But we always have to remember the system. The seat.

(28:17):
This is the seat of Pharaoh. This is the seat
of modern ron audomn Babylon. It's the seat. So whatever
it comes with the seat is what comes with the seat.
That's why we have to separate it. And that's black people.
We definitely thought he was the second coming. Let me
just yes, we can see. I love that he was
selected before he was elected. But two things. I'm from

(28:37):
Chicago to the reason he was successful because he married
a black That's a fact, and that is a fact.
And he was such a cool gent. I love his
you know, he was like the male Stacey Abrams. You
never see him get the temper stays the same. He's
always factual. Ready, you know there was I love and

(29:00):
I love Stacey Avons because Stacey Abons come so correct.
I want to be a quick like that, but I
get emotional and I'm cousin out everybody, everybody. I got.
She equipped and ready to do that. We talked to
him about that. Yes, that cannot wait for people to
hear the interview that we conversation that we had yesterday
and your your your woman was the what's her name? Again?

(29:22):
It was nice, she's so pretty. Let me Chell something
my thoughts. She was beautiful when she y'all came to
the club last week. But yesterday when I got the
chance to see her, and I was like, oh my god,
this lady is. I'm like god, it looked like that
is And this is why I admire and respect women.
I am a female impersonator and I'm speaking for me
I'm not speaking for nobody else in my community. I

(29:45):
admire women that are beautiful like that because that is
what I aspired to be when I'm working, when I
am in my element, and I want to be a
beautiful woman when I'm not working. I don't want even
nobody to recognize me. Unfortunately they do, but um that
and I will always give respect to a woman because
I think of my mom. You know, I look like

(30:06):
I act like my mother. I tried to get away
from my mother as much as possible. And every time
I'm gonna look into me or I see that, Wow,
that's with makeup on or without. But it looks like
some of my community and sisters are trying to come
just completely discard that. And I don't get that, but
that is there. It could be bad at me anywhere.

(30:26):
When that interview, I call it like I see it,
and that that hopefully that any disrespectful to nobody. But
I'm telling you that it made me really rethink about
who I was, Like, maybe I should never speak on
politics as footing out to my community or what have you,
but it's so baffling, and I'm telling you, the world

(30:47):
is such such an uproar with all the foolishness and
all the crime, but petrified that if we lose the
White House and November, I'm not even that more afraid
to Trump as I am the other one from Oh yeah, yeah,
I understand. Yeah. See, that's that's the thing when it
comes to politics here. This is something that um, a

(31:09):
lot of people don't know actually because I don't. I
don't talk about it too often. But when I went
to college, I didn't graduating first off, right, I went
to Compton College. My major was political science. So I
was going to go into politics. This was my goal.
I was going to go into politics, run for schoolboard.
Yeah yeah, I was serious too. I had the whole

(31:30):
thing mapped out. I mean when I was running forum
the associated student body president over there and comptic that
I put a picture up of me next to Obama
as my promo flyer to run for stuit By. I
was so serious. I was eighteen to two thousand and eight,
you know. So I was really serious about it because
I said, you know what, the way that I could
help by people is by going into politics to help

(31:52):
to you know, do things that really impact that really
changed conditions, or so I thought, and that was until
my first day. I'm talking about the first class playing
my teacher who was an alumni from UCLA political science teacher.
I will never forget this, this short, little white man
who just said the truth. He opened up the class

(32:13):
by saying, for those of you who think you know
anything about politics, just know that everything you thought you
knew is a lie. So first thing this man said,
I'm like, Okay, I'm listening to him. He said, no,
politics is not controlled by the vote. Politics is controlled
by money and money interest only. And those who have
the money control the vote, and those who control the
vote are the ones who control the destiny of everything else.

(32:33):
And so when he said that, it hit me because
I'm like, yes, votes matter in certain instances. They do.
They're not totally, you know, useless. But to vote comes
from a word which means a witch. So voting is
a witch right. You're praying for this, you're wishing for this.
But it also has the economic side under it. That's
why only certain groups of people get things done, because

(32:56):
they have a written agenda that they present to these politicians,
backed up with economic power. That's the side that we
lose in because we don't put our dollars behind our passion.
We have to put our dollars behind it. Then we'll
get more things done. And that's the point that I
started to look at and I said, damn so but
you know, I said, well, man, I'll end up getting assassinated,

(33:18):
you know, before I end up getting that position because
I'm not going to compromise. And that's when I said,
I can't go into politics. I have to go into activism.
And I chose to go that route. Oh thank you
for educating us. I never knew that. I said, the
institution is so broken no reason, because I'm telling you
something right now. If we would just stop looking at
us and thinking that we were good enough for us

(33:39):
and when I say, uh, but we keep looking for
acceptance from another group that will never give us our
full credit on who we are as just who we are,
it ain't get being back. I am black, Okay, that's
the elephant in the room. I'm black, and that's the
elephant in But damn it, I'm talented. Forget friends, listen

(34:01):
to my knowledge, listen to the jewels that I have,
and he helped me develop who I am. Don't see
what you want me to be, See who I am.
I hate that we don't see right, I said at
the time, which is who's in our scurs. And then
we want to feel bad if we lose certain things
that we shouldn't because we got to be good enough
for us. I always tell you, we got to be

(34:23):
good right, that's right. I tell people that's all the
time when they start going into the topic of police brutality.
For example, when they start saying that, you know it's
normally one. You know, when I'm debating with people on
the other side and they're like, well, the black throats
who just comply, And it's like, you know, just comply,
just just just do what they say. And it's like
you think we don't do that. We do that all

(34:43):
the time. I said, you do know that when a
police officer polls is over, they never asked are you
a Christian? Are you Muslim? When they find the gun,
they don't ask you Hebrews are like, you're passing after this,
you're black crap. They don't ask these questions. They see
who we are, They know who we are. We need
to see ourselves and know ourselves and know who we are.
It's just that simple. The system is united about who
we are. We need to be united about who we are.

(35:07):
I think that one more time, please, I want that's
what the name of this topic gonna be. That's gonna
lead the name of this episode. And remember that you
know what's some crazy reason you said something I said
in my comedy, And I say all the time, if
the police put me over, they see black, if they
don't give a damn if I'm trans or gay or LGSNOM,
they see black, And you're right, I put my hands

(35:27):
on the dashboard, look at my purse. But you know
I have learned how to work the system my hands.
And when Kovid came out and age was so big,
if a police come off to come at me, I
ain't gonna even last said. I won't start coughing and
say I'm trying to get to my medication. If you
are already afraid of me because of my skin, then

(35:50):
let me save my life and scared shit out of
you to let I know I got you. I've been
a tricky world, so I have to learn to tricks
to manipulate the world to what to be what I
wanted it to be. So if I'm pulled off about
the police and or you one of them. I get
the coffin. I'm sick. I'll tell you anything because the

(36:13):
objective is to get home to my children. So why
will you right? You're right, You're right, and that I
have hands to learn those tricks and will teach those
to my children. If it's going to say getting foster,
they want to get hostile. They they push everybody they
can to put their hand on your heart. Why your
heart beats so fack because I'm petrified for my life.

(36:35):
But I'll tell them you should be for yours because
I'm contagious. What the hell away from me? I hope
you're down all of that, right, Yeah, you know. And
I'm saying to you guys and to y'all, and I'm
sitting as a joke, but that is my real life reason,
that is my real truth. Often I'm not stopped by

(36:57):
the police officer thing because I'm a I'm a good
driver both for the most part, I have legal right now.
It's twenty twenty three, and I'm joking about this, but
the situation is barbaric because you know, I still have
to teach this to my children now and we're talking
about that, and I hate that. I would have thought

(37:19):
that my kids would have been able to drag without No,
I would have thought George was the worst of my problems. Yeah,
it's a reality. And that's the main thing that I
think that's one of the most powerful things we discussed
was people forget the children. They really forget the fact
that we have an entire generation. This thing doesn't end.
We have to pass this down to the next, then

(37:39):
they have to pass it down to the next, and
so on and so forth. We want to equip them
with as many solutions and not problems as possible so
that they can get around the problems that we went through.
That's what we're supposed to do, given the wisdom and guides,
so that they can go through less issues because they
their arm they know exactly what to do. Yeah, Pops
told me this, Moms told me this, The uncle to this.

(38:00):
Auntie told me that, I know what that is. Yep.
I see that they're getting a map on that. That's
what we want to give them, you know. And so
we get caught up in this individualistic I'm not trying
to leave nobody. I'm gonna live my life. And it's like,
you got too many people right now who feel like
they haven't lived yet. But it's like, wait a minute,
you have children. Now, you have an entire life that
you have to look after. So you can't just be

(38:22):
out here be irresponsible when this whole life is watching
you and looking up to you. So they're gonna do
what you do, say what you say, They're gonna add
how you act. And that's something that a lot of
people in this generation, you know, specifically I don't know,
really lose sight of. So when we talked about that,
I'm we covered that in almost every topic we discussed.
Was the children. Yeah, too many parents nowadays allowing teachers

(38:46):
and hentering their theories their children. That's like they're not
raising their own children. And it's scary because especially these
younger parents, they don't listen to the elders, the eldest
you know, they oh you, oh, you don't know. You
don't know. The elders no, because not because they they
they heard about it, They dive through it, they survived,
so they can how to go this way instead of

(39:07):
going that way. For this reason. It's not that this
is a faster way, but this is a safer way.
The dunk kids A knuckle is that you do know
that generation z Z is the last letter of the alphabet.
So after that, I just gonna stand this high close
to earth and we are that's real. No, this is real.

(39:28):
It's real. And this thing right here is the biggest
gift and the biggest curse at the same time. This
right here, it's it's it's crazy. It can give you
all these space feed on one hand, but it could
put you in a trap and each on a situation
to where you can self incriminate yourself for the rest
of your life. I mean, it's just it's too many things, man.
And that's why again I tell people this all the time,

(39:48):
do not put things on social media that you do
not want to come back onto you. Just don't. Just don't, Yeah,
because you know now they're going after the res at
really they're using your words against you. I'm like, this
is right, So y'all making art imitate life. It's very real. This.

(40:14):
I know art sometimes does imitate life and we live
in fantasies. But now y'all were making art imitate life.
So if I make a rap song and say I
just shot up the Grandmam and blew up the train,
and that happens down the line, even if it wasn't me,
But y'all gonna use it at me just because I
use those lyrics and I might have been in the
vicinity it is, you said. The reason I wish that

(40:36):
y'all could get to these young brothers. I wish the
Muslim brothers could reach these young brothers. Y'all track, and
I'm not talking about reaching back going to where they at.
You got to get up in their money, but I
don't know what it requires for y'all to get you'd
be surprised, I know. See. The thing is it's not
promoted that much. It's not promoted that much, but we

(40:56):
talked to a lot of them, a lot going to
reach out to us. And I'm talking about the artists,
the rappers of course, and were always in the hood.
You know that that's what we stay in the hood.
So that's that's that, so they know it's in the hood.
But the social media, the way it's set up is
don't promote the successful moves, promote the hood, Promote the gangster,
promote that, promote the drugs, the money, promote that, but

(41:16):
don't promote your spiritual life, how you're eating properly, who's
guiding how are they guiding to, you know, have more
morals ethics? How you you know your manhood, your masculinity
or your femininity, your womanhood. They don't want that to
be promoted. I'm gonna tell you this. I was on
dream Chats with Noriega, and Noriega told me, he said,
the reason. Do you know that there is no artist

(41:38):
development anymore in rap? He said, there used to be,
as you know, artist developed. They would teaching about credit.
They were teaching about how to you know, where to
put them money, how to operate, and interviews, things like that.
He said, they took that stuff out. I said, I said, well, also,
I'm going to tell you this. They also make sure
to keep a division between the generations of hip hop
rap artists and things like that, because you will teach

(42:01):
them the game about contracts, You'll teach them how to
get their money, You'll teach them how to operate so
that they don't get caught up in things. And they
make sure they keep you apart. He said. He's out
telling me right now. You not know how true that is.
He said, they keep us divided. That's that's another thing.
A lot of them are kept away from us. The activists,
the researchers, those who have the knowledge, the wisden like yourself,

(42:23):
the guidance. You've been through this comedy game long enough,
you can give some real good game. But they make
sure they keep people in between. They have handlers, is
what I'm saying. And it's it's a strategic thing to
keep us away from our people. It still don't work.
We're gonna get to them, you know, may take a
little more time, but it's a real thing. I would
love for the you brothers with men's and fairy kind

(42:44):
of brothers like you to get a hold of some
of these younger athletes. I've watched what happened with Jayon
Brand just recently because he fled. They go from rags
to richest, and they don't have anybody in between and say, hey,
ten dollars yesterday, now you get ten million to day.
Slow down, calm that it could all be taken away
in a second. But they don't have strong being like

(43:07):
you that we need, we need strongly to get right
in between yesterday and tomorrow morning overnight. Hey, it's gonna
look good to you. They're gonna offer you everything. Think,
slow down, understand that just like you get it that
fast it could be taken away that they when they
went after h Irving carry Irving. I wonders he didn't

(43:31):
put that out. He re shared something and they went
after him and made him grovel it and apologize and
took a takeaway. And that is the power of money
and power, because when you don't have it, and then
you get it and you get used to it, you
don't That's true, that's true. I made my millions first
because they yeah, but they don't know me. And God

(43:57):
cool that that player loved me because I love That's real.
That's where all the money really is. That's where the
wealth really comes from. And again that's why I said,
the rich man will pay you for your peace of mind.
He will pay you to have that because he ain't
got that. Most of them are living in the hell
right now, billions and billions of dollars and they don't
have anybody they can trust. I talked to a lot
of them, A lot of them I talk to, and

(44:19):
they tell me all the time, reason I don't know.
I don't have this person I can trust. I thought,
I can trust this. Now that's when it's doing this
to me. Man, I can't believe and we have to
now go backwards, you know, how is your family life?
And then teach them about certain basics. And it's like,
like you said, these young brothers going from ten dollars
ten million, they don't know what the hell to do.
They go crazy. I mean, it's like you're like a
child on the candy store, but the whole world is

(44:40):
open to you. Now you don't know what to do,
no discipline or nothing. Here's the killer reason. They keep
seeing it and then they keep repeating it. The guy
player in Vegas last year who had the car who
lady hundred of dollar speed, you know, because he had
a three hundred thousand dollars sports car and he was
I got millions of us. They feel invisible, like you

(45:02):
can do, like they can do anything. Money's gonna stop
a bullet. Kobe Bryant resting pieces when his baby five
hundred billion dollars world renowned that when the helicopter went down,
the money true making piece. I thought Kobe was great
when I couldn't believe it. But I'm telling you, I
hope I never make the Simpsons cartoon because everything that

(45:25):
is cold Simpsons, the Simpsons let me everything that came
to them, been on the census like years ago. That's true.
That's funny, oh Simpsons. So you say, I hope that

(45:46):
when when people get a chance to listen to Laughing
Nerd and when they get a chance to listen to
us on intellectual extremists next week, that they can see
we are two very different people that having a real
convers This is all I want people to see. It
ain't got to be this, this, this, this, It could
be one level, one people, one America. But therefore, the

(46:11):
powers that be, like you said, it's so many interferences
that they follow because people don't know who they are
in here and then here that they played following the leaders.
So if it's not popular, then it's not worth righting.
And the main thing that they are afraid of it
is the unity of the people, because once the people
are united, the system will fall. They know this, they

(46:31):
know so they have to do their best to keep
us the vibe. But still it didn't work, and it's
not working. We will be united as a people, that's
the fact. And like you said, even if it's I
live on this block, you live on that block. We
pass each other. We may go to the same grocery
store cent We have our own areas, but we come
together for things that are needed, and we don't have
to attack each other. We can disagree with certain things,
but we don't have to be disagreeable. We may not

(46:54):
see eye on certain things, but we take each other's
eye out. We still want each other that, you know,
be ego and have justice and fairness. So no, you know,
I think this is going to do a lot more
good than bad. And some people may get mad at it.
I really don't care because we're doing what's right regardless
they ain't not really too can enough money away from
me anyway, I'm glad, you know. It blows me reason

(47:20):
that it was. You was just making a point and
I wanted to about us living in the same I
tell my trans sisters and brothers and LGBT community all
the time. They don't. It's not that they want to
hurt us all the time or they want to see us.
He's not that granted. There are some people who it's
just I don't know. For some reason, they want to
be violent, and I think that's fear. I believe that
that is fear because if you don't understand, then you

(47:41):
go straight to fear. But if you take the time
to have a too minute conversation, especially if somebody as
cool as me now might tell other queens that's cool,
it's me. Let me just let y'all know that. But
if you you don't see that, oh my god, this
is just another person. The presentation is different, the lifestyle
is different, but this is another human being. And I
don't they You straight people and people outside the community

(48:04):
don't wish it. Always wish to see ill will or
want to see us not eat or hurt or But
when we come in with this attitude of like, oh
they don't like me, or they don't they don't like
what I am, it's not even always the case. I
understand the misunderstandings, and a lot of time it is
just I don't understand it. So it reversed me back
to fear, and we, as the LGBT community or trans

(48:27):
go straight to the defense. We go straight to the defense.
Experience has taught me not to go straight to the defense.
That story I told you about Kenya bears and I
didn't finish that story yesday, so he saw me with
one set of eyes, but by time I finished explain
it to him, how much I enjoyed the movie and
what the movie did for me. He looked at me
with a whole different set of ads. In two minutestries,
I changed his man. He put his arm around me

(48:49):
and took the picture with me, and the body language
said it all because I removed the level of fear
that I'm not this, I'm just another person having a conversation.
I couldn't enjoy the movie because I'm trains. I say
the same thing everybody else say. It is preposterous to me,
but I'm gonna. I'm it's gonna I'm gonna stand alone
for a long time. I do know that takes the

(49:10):
way that we're gonna make some changes. This will do,
like I said, far more positive than negatives. Will be
a lot of people looking like wow, I can't believe
I just saw that, And like you said, just have
an actual conversation, because the same thing with me, see mine.
The extreme is deal with white people. It's that they're like, wait, okay,
you in the nation this line, don't y'all hate white people?
Like if we hate the white people, why am I

(49:31):
not breaking your face right now? So? Why am I
not attacking you right now? Y'all here about six staves.
He got huge hands. Really, I'm like, come on, you
know so, but when we have a conversation like damn,
why are you? You know you have families, you you
eat too, you okay, you want to be safe and
have peace and you know, just have a decent life. Okay,
it's the same thing. But we have to treat each

(49:54):
other how we want to be treated. You know, it's
just real simple. I'm not gonna come at you and
be aggressive towards you. That's not how we do things.
Have a conversation. It's just that simple. We're talking nations.
Lam Yeah, communications solve que Because you put up a
post recently, I don't know if it was the old
post or a new post, and he says trans women
are me and dressed up as women, and trans me

(50:17):
and our women dressed up as me. I don't know
if you were quoting somebody else, or if that was
your feeling or what have you. But let me ask
you a question at very so, whenever you have a kid,
because you're going to have children one, they're cup quite
a few of what if one of your children ever
came to you and said that they felt like they
would transgender, how would you personally? That's when I say

(50:39):
a pregnant hypothetical. But I'll respond and I'll say, well,
the first thing is, I asked them what made them
come to that conclusion, as you know, is there something
they watched, something they read, something they self did, something
happened to them, you know, really going to the source
of things, because we all know there's a source whatever

(50:59):
it is, but there's something that caused that to click
and turn on or anything. So I'd ask my child
questions and I really asked them and analyze and then
go into helping to educate them about what these things are.
Do you even know what trans is? Do you know
what that really means? Not necessarily you know what I mean,

(51:20):
really educate them. See, like, that's the thing I loved
about how I was raised. We were actually talked to
and educated about this stuff. This is what that is,
this is what they Because when I was younger, I
had cousins who were gay. So I was four or
five six years old, I saw some things up. Hell
was that? And my mom would taught me and my
sisters were teaching me and my brothers educated. Oh that's

(51:40):
what that is. That's what that is. That I was like, oh, okay,
so they actually taught. They taught me what this was.
I'm not going to attack, going to learn, ask questions, educate,
and enlighten. That's how it needs to be because, to
be honest with you, in today's time, the majority of
these children are falling into a trend because of what
they're being promoted to and overwhelmed by and being propagated with,

(52:05):
and they don't even know what this stuff is. I
saw a video right before we got on of a
child and I said, whoever the parent is of this
child is extremely irresponsible and wicked because I said that
ten year old didn't write what she's reading right now.
This ten year old child said I'm a ten year
old trans non binary and started saying, you know what

(52:26):
about my lifestyle threatens you so much? They were reading
this in front of the school. But I was like,
you're ten years old? What is non bulinary transgender? Not?
I said, whoever this the parent, whoever old that thing
for that child is. I said that you are extremely
irresponsible because if that's where the child gets to, then
that means they've gone through experiences, they know what that is.

(52:48):
They know what it means. Okay, if you can articulate
it thoroughly and you genuinely have it in your mind
and your heart, your spirit. Like you said, it's a
thoroughld experience. It ain't a coaching put on. It's not
a hate where in a pair shooes you put on.
It's much deeper than that. And most of these children
that they don't have none of these experiences. It is
propagadat heded as a trend that they are being conditioned

(53:08):
to jump into. For the most part, in this generation.
I can't speak for other generations, but this one, I
ask them, so, what does that mean? They can't even
define it. I'm like, okay, it's it's a it's an
a gim yeah whatever it answer is that you were
still willing to work with you a child, because I
hate when when I hear say, well, I'm just gonna

(53:30):
disgregard them, I'm at my reeds or whatever you have
to here is because I have some friends who have
gay kids that they have just turned their background, and
I always tell them, as soon as you realize that
the love for your child is stronger than what your
child has become, you're gonna be a whole person, because
that made you a whole man to me for real reason.
If I ever thought anything else, which I never did,

(53:52):
that right, there was a bona fact. Great answer, because
at least you're willing to take the tab to deal
with your child doing I got I'm transgient. I had
a daughter when she was fifteen or sixteen. She's like, dad,
I think I like girls. I gave it no energy.
I didn't feed it. I said, okay, okay. Two days
later she had a boyfriend. She picked the worst ones

(54:13):
off the bunch, but she never looked back on it.
Sometimes I think when you don't feed it, it just
won't grow. That's not the cases, but in this case
it worked. Now I almost wish she would get up,
But I love that because and I had a conversation
with a young lady recently, Angela Stanton, who has a

(54:35):
transgender daughter, and they was all in the public, all
on Donna, I'm not down Hill on doctor Field and
argument call each other's names, and when she and I,
because nobody had listened to this woman, so when she
talked to me, she thought, well, I thought, definitely, when
you become transgender, they cut they can't tell y'a off.
I said, no, that it's at all. So she was

(54:57):
and nobody here there was playing to Everybody just attacked
her for how she said about a child. So when
she and I had a conversation, she was like, flame,
you made me know that it was all right, my
daughter could still have kids. And she actually started calling
her her transgender child her daughter because she wouldn't address
the girl that's her door. She was sided and I
was telling people, you ain't got nothing to do with that.

(55:18):
That's high kid. I told you that yesterday. When it's
your kid, every tree else got to ship the hell up.
Not your foster kid, not your adopted kid, not your
STEMP kid. When it comes from your own Lloyds, baby,
I stand it from the train for one. That's real.
That's that's real. And again just just to make it

(55:40):
real clear for anybody who's ever thought, you know, again,
I have family. You know, it's LGBT and UH and
whatever other ident you know, identification. And they classified themselves
at BOO because I wanted to make sure you you
were updated with, like you said, some of the new stuff,
this younger generation and that this stem is putting in

(56:01):
the pot now you're like, Okay, it used to be gay, bisexual,
you know, maybe maybe queer a few few letters. Now
this thing, this thing is blue. It's blowing up to
a level now where it's like, okay, who's funding this.
That's what I was, you know, putting on the table,
is this system is funding the pushing of this because
the majority of people that I know who are in

(56:23):
the LGBT are not in support of most of the
stuff that this government is pushing by using the LGBT
that use it through that rainbow flag and they pushing
stuff on the children and pushing this over here, and
it's like, WHOA, wait a minute, you saying I just
want to live my life. I want to live my life.
I don't want to force it on you. I'm not
trying to cancel you. I'm not trying to prevent you
from eat, having a job. WHOA, this is different, but

(56:45):
that's what this government is pushing. That's why I wanted
to make it clear. It's no hate for nobody when
it comes to that. We have family, were family. So
I'm so I'm gonna hate you, but I'm gonna be
cool with my brother who kills his other brother because
he was wearing blue and it's wearing red. Is that?
Is that how we're playing this game? Now? See I
don't go in that direction. I don't. I don't agree
with either thing. But I know for a fact that

(57:07):
if I disagree with that, I gotta have the same
energy over here. But I can at least love my
people still and say yeah, I may not like a behavior,
but I love you. You're my family. See it's real
simple that and I'm telling you is if people would
stop trying to make it way more than it is
and look at it in a simplistic manner or look
at it, it would be so difficult. When you told

(57:29):
me that yesterday about you, Rope said that they had
a hundred jigs there and I'm like, what, yeah, yeah,
And I said this honestly, I said, this can't come
from nobody but a white man, and that's where it
came from. I'll just to be honest. It is. It
is out of control. And I hate that they make

(57:50):
some of our black brothers who have their finger on
the parts. Because I thought Nick Cannon was about to
do something great with that whole doctor Ceb thing, But
I I don't know what happened on the fifth. I
don't know if he's still pursuing that, but it looked
like when they was trying to take everything. I'm actually
in that document I'm in there. I'm in there a

(58:11):
lot of people in that documentary. And Nick was saying
because of all of what was happening, because how they
came out, and I mean they came at him. People
don't even know. People have no idea how heavily they
came after this brother. So you know it's that it
was put on the back burner for a moment. He's
still pursuing it, he did say he is still pursuing

(58:31):
it for sure. Um, they still have some more things
to record. And the last time I spoke with him
about that was a couple months ago. But he's still
pursuing it. I don't know when the release date will be.
But it was it was a lot. He had to
fause it because it was a lot they were. He
had to reorganize and rethink a lot of stuff because
it was really big. I knew they messed this man,
because this game ain't shit. I'm up. I'm dick, baby,

(58:56):
Dick can't even look at it a vagina. They can
have a two, baby three up good without doing it.
I thought that was phenomena. And when I experienced what
I'm experienced it through my community. But I watched my
sister Tiffany Haddis with all of that foodighes that happened
with her, and I watched how they tried to manipulate

(59:17):
and break my sister. I knew in yeah, I'm built
to handle it, but do I want to deal with it?
And so when I wanted to be this famous comedian
or this this movie star or whatever, it really made
me rethink my values of what I wanted as far
as success, because Tiffany always says that when we take pictures,
but then people have to look at their own selves

(59:38):
and say what level of success do I want? Because
what I want to bring into my psyche the higher
you get the wire to your blind. We talked about
that yesterday. When you open the blind, you have put
yourself on the auction slab. I don't always want to
be on the auction slab because I'll tell you to
go to hell. But that made me really who are

(01:00:00):
back to be? Like? You know what I'm gonna I'm
gonna stay who I am and stay very comfortable being
who I am, because if I lose me, and I'm
already a whole lot of a whole lot of everything,
but if I lose me, I'm gonna lose my mind.
And I don't want to lose my man. I don't
because I want to make absolutely absolutely man. I'm telling you,

(01:00:22):
like I said, maintain your integrity, do what you know
you love. Stay right then, because a lot of people
sacrifice it, did whatever to get up a little higher,
just a little high, see a little more money, a
little more status, and they aren't going crazy. They got
to maintain it. That's why they got it. That's why
they get so high, so drunk, do all it because
they can't face the reality of where the hell they

(01:00:43):
are now, and they are not happy with it, a
lot of them, and if some of them try to
maneuver and maintain but it's like this is how the
game goes. The higher you go up, it's like you,
this is where you want to go. And then they they,
you know, prick off certain people who they know are
want to help you to maintain who you are, and
they find them and they pull them off. Your family members,

(01:01:04):
your friends and all that, and the next thing, you know,
you look around it as just you and that person
who you thought you could trust, but as a person
who was set up to keep you and maintain who
you are outside of who you really are. It's a
it's a cold game. The reason or that sounds so
much like Whitney Houston's story because with the way the
base they get rid of so that you know, it

(01:01:26):
could just oh my god, that's so scary. Uh not go,
could not go any further with I'll tell you that
Tesla Tesla Figuro is the hugest fan of yours. She
loves my sister right there. He loves Make sure you
tell me my boy, I says, make sure I tell him.
Hell up, Oh yeah, we're from the same same neighborhood. Yeah,
I found out out a couple months ago when we

(01:01:47):
were at the Revolt summit and we want the same stage.
And yeah, she ain't no joke. Though she ain't no joke.
That's that's that's a strong sister. And I appreciate all
the words she does for sure. There you ask them
all ask you this questions as a straight man. Do
you think that men are intimidated by very strong mentally
strong women, some of them are. Absolutely some of them

(01:02:09):
are because they're but is they're going to take for
a strong a strong woman to get a good man?
Can you know? I'll say it this way. The honorable
this was far con said that the nature of the
woman is to equal herself up to God, constantly striving
to always be better. Right. So that's this is one

(01:02:29):
side of it, because we have to look at the
fact that this system is in layers. How we become
now is in layers. So a lot of women are
being rewarded because they are looking at keeping the man down,
specifically in our demographic, but keeping that man down putting
that woman in the position of leadership because we still
want to control her. Talking about those who run the system,

(01:02:52):
then you have some of the men who want to
maintain the status, but they are now feeling intimidated by
these strong women. When a strong and it's not a problem.
I was raised by a strong woman. We were raised
by a strong woman. We were raised by strong women.
But how you handle that is a sign of your
immaturity or your maturity. I don't mind a strong woman

(01:03:12):
being next to me, that's a beautiful bay. But how
I look at myself as a strong masculine man is different.
A lot of us are not mature. A lot of
us are not that masculine. A lot of us are
not confident in our education, our ability to articulate information,
and our talents and our gifts. We don't know ourselves.
We don't know where the hell we came from. We
don't know our own family, we don't know our history,

(01:03:34):
we don't know our culture. And because of what we
don't know, we're looking at somebody who does know what
they know and they walk proudly in it. And that
makes us look at ourselves as inadequate, even though we
may not say that to a lot of people. Right,
So there are layers. Then we may not have that
much money, but this one does. Or we may have money,
but we don't have knowledge. See, there's layers, So always

(01:03:54):
layers of this thing. So if a man starts to
work on himself, as we're taught, self improvement is the
basis for community development. If we want the community to
get better, we have to better ourselves. If I see
a strong woman, I'm gonna ask her what made you
so strong? Let's just say I'm a man who's, like
you know, dealing with his strength and I'm working on
building it mask what made you so strong? And you

(01:04:16):
know she's like, oh dang, nobody really asked me that
question before. And we have a conversation. Then I can
help to bring her down to me, and I go
up to her. We could meet somewhere where we interact
on a different level. We have to communicate with each
other and stop I would say, confronting in a negative way.
Stop competing. Communicate, stop competing. That's the main thing. Me

(01:04:39):
being an heterosexual, masculine black man from Compton who was
a six figure earner, I'm able to sit down and
listen to a woman speak, not talk over her, or
to sit down listen to her letter half her space
because she deserves that. I have my own, she has
her own. That's why we are side by side, not
in the front or behind. And to be hones said

(01:05:00):
you sometimes a woman does, going from sometimes she does,
doesn't mean that makes us less of a man. Those
it stain things. I don't mind sitting back and you shine,
you shine because you deserve that, or it's some same
thing you let me shine over here. That's what submission
truly is. I'm gonna end it on this point because
a lot of people like you said the submissive slide.

(01:05:20):
People get that mixed up with being a slave. It's like,
that's not what submission is, all right. People they hear that,
they're like, I want a submissive woman. It's like, wait
a minute. First off, you need to give her something
to submit to. That's number one. What value do you
bring as a man, so where she feels like you
are worthy to allow you to guide her. Submission is

(01:05:43):
to give power over too by your participation. If you participated,
you're agreeing. Okay, brothers, all right, I'm gonna let you
leave the house. I'm gonna let you do this. Why
because you're worthy of it. You got the knowledge clearly,
you work hard. You know you you have integrity. Oh
take you, I'll work with you, vice versa. The same
thing with a man. I don't mind. I submit to

(01:06:05):
my woman, meaning she does what she does and I'll
let her do that and we work together. We have
to understand what words mean and stop competing with each other.
And that's the that's the thing that will help us.
Because this enemy really didn't want us to have good relationships.
That's why they never wanted us to learn the science
of mating. They never want us to learn that, because
if we did, we wouldn't have all this gender war

(01:06:27):
nonsense going on right now. Good God, thank you Jesus.
Let me tell you something. You just educated something, and
some ain't gonna get a good wife. Jips from them, jewels.
You just knowledge. I hope brown with giant invisible filters
all the time, and go with people head When I say,
cut forward because they're controlling you, cut the court nobody,

(01:06:48):
They say flame you out of control. I'm not out
of control. I just don't need to be controlled. My mind,
in my heart, my spirit controls me. My Lord controls me.
I damn saying that. Nobody tell me what to do
with my rude ass not to be well stay you
know how rude that arrest. But you always maintain respect
to you and you see that's the difference to people.

(01:07:09):
Just don't understand people because they don't want to. Sometimes
I seem to understand you. I want to understand you
that way. When you do something I don't misunderstand it.
Then get mad. No, I know, how does person operate?
How do you know? Because I talked to him, I
talked to all I went out of conction most powerful.
Those two things having communicating with somebody and hearing them clearly,

(01:07:32):
but listening to what they're saying to you. Boom. I
could give a million dollars, but I get ten people
to listen tomorrow. Hear what I'm saying to you, what
I'm pouring into you, not a word that then pitched
you off and you ready to go at me. Just
listen to it. I'm gonna listen to you. I'm gonna
let you get it all out. I'm gonna hear I

(01:07:52):
gonna hear the trigger word. I'm gonna hear what you're
saying to me. That must be a gift that comes
with a great strong woman up ring and that's a fact.
This I just want to tell you, thank you so much.
And I'm telling you right now this is going to
do one This for so many people in my community

(01:08:15):
to see this Muslim brother is talking to this trans
woman and it is a real conversation. There is no
there is no this grow to an argumentative conversation. We're
just talking to them the conversation. Come on now. But
you're thinking to me, y'all, I wish you much success.

(01:08:36):
I am so glad that you are back on social
media where you belong, so that you can help reach
and teach somebody. Because I'm telling you, I listened to
you when I didn't even had wasn't very aware of
who you were when the whole vaccine and the pandemic
was going through. But it was some things that you
were saying. I think I was in the kitchen making
a part of grays or something. I had you on

(01:08:57):
a loud speaking. I was like, wait a minute, I'm
like this got it. I was like, I don't want
to chase So when I looked at this, I said,
oh h no shit, he only twelve years old. That
was and I said that I allowed to myself. But
I'm like, but I kept listening because sometimes we think
that we are so old. They said, you can't teach

(01:09:17):
your old dog new tricks. That's a lie, because I'm
willing to receive the information that you're going to teach
you to me if you talk to me and not
around me. Don't talk over my head, don't talk around
my back. Talk to me because I want the information transfer.
Transfer your information to me, because guess what, I might
have some information I want to transfer back to you.

(01:09:38):
That's right, that's right. This is last reason. I want
to thank you for coming to joining me. Now, where
can we follow you at? Where can we find you at?
Absolutely everything is under Reason Islam, Twitter, at Reason Islam,
Instagram for now. They should be good by now at
Reason after Monday, right true, it's a Reese Islam I X.

(01:10:01):
And also for anyone who would like to schedule me
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(01:10:22):
he'll be on your podcast. So weird on Tuesday, I believe,
I'm thinking to see the Monday Night of tunes. I'm
still thinking which one should I hit him with Monday
night or Tuesday afternoon, but it will be It's it's
gonna be heavy, It's gonna be heavy, and it will
be on Rumble. So make sure y'all will follow me
on Rumbo. Every is Islam because YouTube took your brother down.

(01:10:42):
We'll see if we go, you know, gonna get back
on there, but it will be on rumble. Every is Islam.
It is such a pleasure talking to your young brother.
Let me chase it from an old I'm old here,
I will say I've all enough to be your parents,
which I really am. But I'm not gonna say that
right right? Are you young? You're definitely yum. It is

(01:11:02):
the genuine conversation that you have had with me, the
respect that you have shown me, the adoration of coming
to the club and we're talking. You took the picture
of me. You know how what that means to somebody
like me. If it made me it felt abnormal for
you to treat me so normal. If you understand. Wow,

(01:11:23):
and this is the old queen, but it felt abnormal
to be treated so normal. You made me feel like
that Dave Chappelle made me feel like that Tiffany had it.
And I'm telling you, if we're looking for the negative
is waiting on us. But if you're looking for the positive,
you might have to go over hurd or and go
around through the back door. But the positive is waiting
for you. Sometimes you just got to put a little
bit more effort into it. Wow. Absolutely, And I'm honored

(01:11:44):
again to be on and to have this relationship and
to always be able to communicate because we olderly have
a communication on both ends, not one side of it's
two sided. That's how we're gonna bridge this world. And
I appreciate you, my brother, Thank you so much. Mysterieson
is Lively. We all see you. Don't hang up yet,
late Jam. You can follow me on Instagram at Marrow Flame,

(01:12:05):
Twitter at Flame Monroe, YouTube at Flame Monroe, Oh Ship whatever,
Instagram Flame. But here's the thing I want you guys
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be at Tommy Teas and pleasant to California. You can
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May fourth through six, I would be at Yonker's Comedy
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(01:12:26):
get drunk with all of that Teino people, so come
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I'm just saying, get your tickets. Every Monday night, we
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you all because I could not do this without such

(01:12:48):
brilliant flame mats and followers. But these conversations right here
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