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December 11, 2025 44 mins

Flame Monroe and Bobbi Clifford dive into a wide-ranging discussion on today’s most pressing political and social issues. They examine the need for accountability in national leadership, the far-reaching consequences of war, and the critical importance of voting in shaping the future. They also explore the intersection of healthcare policy, immigration challenges, and the responsibility of the media in influencing public opinion.

Throughout the conversation, Flame and Bobbi underscore the power of civic engagement and the role everyday people play in driving meaningful societal change. Emphasizing community support, informed decision-making, and the impact of individual actions, the episode offers a compelling call to stay active, aware, and involved in shaping the world we live in. 

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Speaker 1 (00:42):
If you watch your coffee time the baby you know
the name Flame, my bro also known as my ro Flame.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
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You better catch it when you can drop a knowledge
from fatherhood to politics, shouting now comics, just paying homage.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
What's up tips?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
You know she.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Raised shot towns on speaking to the grown a second year.
We're gonna last cut him and kick it and at
the end we leave it with you a list of spirits.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
But you want to revisit so your first second. Listen,
young folks. So it's slip old folks that we dig
it good he no this do what you doin't no this,
do what you do?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Ain't no PI do what I do? And no.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Y t e.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Just to be different.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Hey, hey, hey, what This is comedian Fla Monroe and
welcome to this week's episode of Laugh and Learn. I
will tell y'all, introduce y'all to my co host with
y'all hear her big mouth fans already at is.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I'm trying to get us all organized.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
For the love of God, Oh my goodness, Jesus, here
we go. Listen. We know we missed out on last week.
We was having some kind of missing. Everybody was all
over the place last week. But we are back this week,
and we try not to act like our leaders. So
we're gonna we're gonna be a little more responsible with
our consistency. Ladies and Jim, y'all just stay with us

(02:17):
because we're here to teach and reach and leap, because
we need to learn from y'all, because we can't be
on the streets. You know, we're too old to be
a plus Bobby. You know, Bobby might wear some heels
and the short skirt. We gonna get in a whole
lot of trouble.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Be a lot of dimples coming at you. That's all
I can say.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
How was you, Bobby? How was your week? We can
that week and a half, it's been okay.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
It's turning.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Unfortunately in Boston. It is coming fast and furious winter,
and I'm not ready for it. Today we had a
beautiful day of fifty, but yesterday it was eleven. And
tomorrow what's going back down to thirty and then we
go back to eleven. That cold, it's that when it's
windy and it wants to cut you in half.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
It's that kind of cold.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I actually think that's when it's really cold, when it's windy,
because then it's blowing you. Because I'm in Chicago right
now and it's not Wendy. It's cold here, but it's
not like brutally cold. I know, brutal cold here. But
if that that brutal cold with that wind blowing it you, right,
and they call it the Hulk here in Chicago, and
it cut through your ass silicon and all God Jesus,

(03:25):
so yes, we we know we missed our ladyes and jentlemen,
but we are back. And I would love to start off,
Bobby with with your Secretary of Defense scretary.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Theretary is the most and the.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Words of Jasmine Crockett, the most and I'm I'm paraphrasing,
the most unqualified person is ever to sit in that
position because he is just a buffore.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
He's ADNK. I can't think of it any other He
just lies to He's ADNK. He was at Eddie Haskell
in high school, do you.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (03:59):
He's but he's sitting in such a position of power
right now byby and they're doing all of these strikes. Oh.
The trouble that he is in now is because they
sent us strike over to one of those boats in Venezuela.
The people, everybody on the boat didn't die, they were
allegedly they were hanging on to the sack. And then
he approved another strike. But now he's trying to say

(04:20):
that he didn't approve it. And you know what's really
blowing me, Bob, is that these generals, you know that
has taken an oath to the Constitution, to the American flag,
to America. But because they are I want to stay
afraid of losing their positions, because you know that food
fire everybody that they just roll with it, and you

(04:42):
know that puts us in danger as a country.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
He's typical of this particular administration.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
They blame everybody but.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
But themselves, and there's no accountability, like when we make mistakes,
any of us as adults, if anybody can make a mistake,
and do you just own it, own it and you
kind of move on. Nope, it's it's it's him. I'm
so shocked they're not saying it's Biden's fault.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
This is not. But this is not just any mistake, Bobby.
This could cause a war, which will cause and it's
not casualties because you put an unqualified hot head who
thinks he has some kind of power because the commander
in chief told him that he has this kind of power.

(05:30):
But he's still not qualifying in this position. The whole
country could lose out on this innocent people. Yourself and
myself and our children and parents will die because of
what you say. An inno mistake. No, this is not
a mistake.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
No no, no, not an in mistake. He made a mistake.
Own your mistake, take your punishment. Instead, he's blaming Admiral
Mitch Bradley, who's supposed to be a real stand up guy,
and saying, while he.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Had the authority, this guy, and you know what, it's
it's unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
First of all, Trump said that he would release the
He would release the film, and it's very strange. They
said that has no audio, because it's the audio is
very telling, but there is no audio with this particular film.
Hexas said, no, some people who are sitting on the
correct committees have seen it and it is following flame

(06:20):
party lines completely. The Republicans say it's justified. The Democrats
are completely horrified, and not all of the Republicans. By
the way, there are several of them that are horrified
by what they said what they saw. They said they
weren't hanging onto a boat. They were hanging on to fuselage,
basically trying not to have it flip, and it was

(06:42):
going to flip.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
They weren't reaching for a phone.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
One guy took his shirt off, and some of the
Republicans were saying that, oh, to signal a boat to
come in and pick up the drugs. The drugs would
have been obliterated and come and save them so they
could continue their mission. He was trying to signal, you know,
we're in the boat. Come so yeah, I don't know.

(07:05):
This is the United States does not when somebody is
down and surrendering against our whole tenant that we go
when we take innocent people out not innocent and as
as far as they can't protect themselves. They weren't reaching
for a gun where it was a hunk of boat
that they were hanging on to.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
All of this to me, Bobby, this is my personal
opinion from what we've been since we were talking about this.
Hope in the swel thing is that since he has
been reinformed again because I'm sure he knew before he
got in office that if there's a time of war,
there will be no other election. He will remain the president. Probably.
We kind of think that he is really poking the bed.

(07:45):
And it's not even the war that I think that
we would lose, but the mere fact that we would
be in a war innocent casualties. We were still losing
casualties on the side, you know, and he would stay
in that position of power. We wouldn't even have a
primary or election or anything.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
He's blaming Vilensky of that, by the way, that's now.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Because he's mad.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
He's not signing Trump, he damn but that it's funny
that you're saying it, is my point, because he's blaming Zelensky.
He says, you know, he doesn't want to have an election,
and Zolensky said, because I'm flipping topics.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
But I want to.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
I want to go back and finish Venezuela. But it's
just funny that you said that. That he said, Zelensky said,
within sixty days he can have an open and fair election.
He has no problem with it. He's not trying to
hold on to his space that way. They're just not willing.
The peace talks came out with the peace agreement was
Zolensky seating, and he said, we're not seating that. That's

(08:40):
the whole point because first of all, Constitution doesn't let
us give up power, give up space and parts of
our states over to you know, another country. Doesn't work
like that. That's the whole point that we've been fighting.
We're not coming away with nothing. So you're saying, come
away with nothing, No, just end the war.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
That's not what this is about. You go back to
having your space.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
You go back to this with the war where in
Venezuela he wants to kick off so that we won't
have re election because they're trying to do all they
can to him in the thirteenth member right now so
that black people can vote.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
It's certainly not about so, you know, he has been
touting President Trump and his administration has been touting that Venezuela.
Who by the way, they do not produce fentanyl that's
coming from from Mexico. They do have cocaine, which usually
comes from Columbia, but they probably sell it as well.

(09:34):
Oh my god, I just lost my train of thought.
Oh it's now I know where I was going. So
they're protecting Americans from these terrible. You know the drug
wars that we're having at and you already know this.
He just pardoned the Hondoran ex president who had sold
bazillions and bazillions of drugs here and we had a

(09:54):
forty five year sentence. Yeah, so if it's about drugs, flame,
why would you pardon him?

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Because it's like Bob Barker is back in the back.
On the price is right, you two can be the
next party in the criminal if the price is right.
He just sat down. Yeah, come on down. You two
could be the next party in criminal if the price
is right. Baby, When I tell you if and and
here it is by it's in our face, it's not

(10:23):
behind our back. That's not our face. Girl. What we're
gonna do about it? That's the name of the episode.
What we're gonna do about it?

Speaker 3 (10:31):
And that's the truth.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Takes to the polls and we're gonna vote like our
life depended on it. And even though we know it's
gonna be some ship in the game, you still gotta
go to the polls and show the solidarity of one
country that wants to be ran by a presidential and
judicial system, not by one hot head unqualified. Still ain't
show his college records. I would love to see those

(10:56):
high school transcripts. Good God, that that would be telling.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
I just want to see the health records.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
We want to see the tagonists, we want to see
the grades, we want to see the files. Let it
all go.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
It is, but we you and I were talking off
camera a couple of days ago about the Miami mayor's race.
So if we, if the Democratic Party can get messaging
correctly together and put the right people in. They flipped
a seat that has been Republican, a mayoral seat, which
it's a very sort of figurehead job. It's sort of

(11:32):
like the ambassador of the city. It doesn't have a
lot of power, but it's still a very in your
face sort of position. They flipped it from from Amelio Gonzalez.
It had a very Hispanic pass over the past thirty
years base and now Mick Eileen Higgins just won the seat.
So I think people are starting to get We talked

(11:53):
about there being fissures with what's going on. People are
because they're being told, which will I feel like we
jumping all over the place. He's on his affordability tour,
which we'll talk about in a moment. But I think
people are looking and saying, no, that's that's not true.
You know, he's still campaigning. He's doing the campaign. He's
saying all the same things, but he's not backing it up.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
And so what you're saying about me is that if
the Democratic Party will take pay attention to the writings
on the wall, because you flip the seat that's blue
and Texas they flipped a bunch of seats turned them
blue on November fourth. We had a whole bunch of
flip seats, a wave of blue. If the Democrats could
see that we are ranging a wave. I wish that
they were riding, but they keep falling off the damn

(12:38):
surfboard to go and do something else. We have to
do this collectively or we're not gonna win. We're not
gonna win again. We cannot afford to lose again. Shit
climbing back.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, and we can't be seeing his name everywhere. Like
the Kennedy Center honors came out. I saw him on
a press briefing and he kept saying, well, the Trump
Kennedy Center, O this stair, I'd let that slip, And
I'm like, oh my god, he's going to try to
put his name. He's already like dismissed a ton of
democratic appointees from there and put his people in it.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
And now he's going to try to change the name.
And for what what did you do? You know that
that's worthy.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I mean, some people do do something that's worthy of
changing a name or adding a name to not him,
he wants to put his name on everything. For the
love of God, I can't do it, but I'll tell you,
and I'm not going to be watching the Kennedy Center
honor this this year.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, I'd like to put his name on something too,
but it's already on thirty four convicted counts, a felon
a felony charge. You So, I don't know where we're going.
Not a shout out, but I want to just recognize
the death of a young trans girl off social media.

(13:52):
Her name was girl a Lot on social media. Her
real name was what was her real name.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Bobby Morris Jaden or k Maurice. I'm irish, so we
say Morris Marris Jaden Harrison.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Just years yes, and she was a young trance and
influencer on social media, twenty one years old and she
was dating a guy who you know, they were in
a very toxic relationship. He would be her. She would
come on line with the cuts and the bruisings great
and talk about it. She wasn't going back. He was
talking to her. And in my experience, because I have

(14:26):
been in a relationship with somebody who used to fight
me the mal many many moments ago. But you know
what it was Bobby when he decided he wanted to, oh,
play a different position in the bedroom. That's how. That's
the nicest way of saying it. Every time he did
it which he wanted to do, he turned violent after

(14:48):
it was like a guilt came over him and then
he would want to fight me afterwards, Like it was
so crazy. And I've met some men like that in
my life, and that happens in the trend community. You
get these guys and they be real masculine, hardcore acting,
but then they want to experience, they want to experience

(15:09):
penetration and they ended up liking it. And after they
give it to you, they feel so like you said,
they feel shamed. They feel, oh my god, I gave it,
and then you can't have a private conversation on the
phone with your girl. They think they're so paranoid that
you're telling everybody and you put the mark of shame
on them and then they become violent with you. My

(15:30):
problem with a bunch of the trans girls that's out
here talking about what happened after the fact, y'all saying
they mad because the mother and the father came to
a crossroads when it was time to bury the young lady.
And I think he wanted to bury her as a
boy when she was biologically by a boy, born a boy,
and the mother wanted to bury her as a girl

(15:51):
because of the life that she lived. And so many
people had their opinions about this, that and the third.
But here's the thing, by me, from my perspective as
a parent, that's my kid. You get no say so
over my kid. I don't care what life they lived.
And she didn't make provisions on how she wanted that
because she was so young, she was brand newing the game,

(16:11):
and with all of these different opinions and all of
this stuff, where were y'all at? Because y'all could have
saved this girl. She was reaching out on social media
on TikTok all the time talking about her violent experiences.
Where were y'all at?

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Then?

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Oh, But y'all want to jump down the father's throat
because he wants to bury his kid as a boy.
You have no say. So that's his right to do
what he wants to do. Whether he was in the
kid's life or not. That was still his kid as
a parent. That's how saying it. But y'all, where were
y'all interventioned at when y'all knew that this boy was
whooping high ass and he was whooping her ass. Bobby,

(16:47):
he even came out publicly to be well, but then
he would come out and say he hate her, he
can't stand her. But that no woman ain't gonna want
him because he can't. And his name what was his name? Bobby? Wait?

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah? White w H s H A N O I
D chanoid white White.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
And you know, you know he lived in terms. You know,
I'm not saying God bless him because you still committed
a crime. You shot and kill that girl, and murder
is not acceptable. Yeah, he was fighting a lot of
demons too, you know, Bobby. And and it goes back
to acceptance of who you are and who you want

(17:27):
to be. But my issue is with all these people
and then they get all these different, different different opinions,
especially from a lot of trans women. You don't even
have children. You you don't get to say so to me.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
You know, it's up to your parents.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Where was your intervention, Where was your intervention prior to
her having to die?

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well, that's what it should be. We should be reaching out.
That's what the lesson of this and of the show
today should be. Is you see something, say something, even
if you think that you're going to hurt a reallylationship,
but you might save the person.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
And violence in a relationship is not racist or prejudiced.
It's not a sexuality or color. No money, no, no, no,
so yeah nothing so but you you gotta find the
straight And I'm telling you love is blind, and you would,
you would put up with a lot of ship. You

(18:24):
tolerate a lot of ship when you oh, I'm head
over heels in love.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
You do.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Everyone. Nobody is free from that. Like you said about sexism, classism,
nobody is free from that. So a lot of women
say in it just to have their stature. A lot
of men stay in it because they're a shamed that
their woman beats them. Gay couples and lesbian couples they
fight it just it's just it's something that happens. But
when when you rEFInd you, I hope that you refine

(18:49):
the strength to love you again and walk away because
it never changes, it escalates, it never changes. If it
stopped for a while, the first little thing that ticks
that person off, it's going to show right where left off.
It's kind of like drugs. If you kick stop doing
drugs and you stay clean for a year, if you
go back on day one after a year, you go

(19:10):
right back to where you left off at I.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Drove an ambulance many lifetimes ago, and I can't tell
you the times and I did.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
It was in the inner city.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
We would get the guys that were heroin addicts that
would go into jail and be there for a while
and just something you said was exactly right, and they'd
come out and try to use the exact same amount
whatever they were using when they left, but their body
have been cleaned for years. The overdoses that we used
to do was were unbelievable because they went right there,

(19:41):
right back to where they left off, exactly back to
where they were left off.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
And that's with everything.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah, I never had a physic and I thought it
was tragic, but I love that people reached out and
donated money for the young lady and everything. It's just
a sign of the times. But I think that everybody
doing all this court of public opinion, you had an
opportunity to actually help and make a change. You're not

(20:07):
going to stop the inevitable because she might You might
have reached out to help, and she still went back
to him because love is blind, especially when you're young
like that. It's just crazy. But it's just so crazy
about me that they're all doing this. And I don't
like that they attack the mother or the father because
I don't think that you get to say so, okay,
that was just my opinion. Yeah, my girl, this woman,

(20:29):
Jasmine Crockett, has thrown her hat in the ring to
become a state senator. Baby, this is going to be
quite interesting by because you know, the powers that be
gonna throw up every brick wall and stone mountain that
they can to try to keep that woman out of
the Senate.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Well, the jerry mandering and whatnot down in Texas. I
don't know what her actual chances of even coming close are.
I hope by running it now, I'm pretty sure she
doesn't have to do anything with her seat. I think
as long as she can continue her work and somebody
can help her run the campaign as well. If she
doesn't win, I want to see her remain in Congress.

(21:04):
I don't want to see her leave the leave doing
her good works. The fingers crossed for her.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
You know, it's some hot heads somewhere right now playing
in this scheme because they do not want that bulldog
over there, because that lady has the tenacity of a
bulldog and she will not stop. And I love her
for it, because we need somebody to fight for us,
fight with us, and fight against them, and she has

(21:30):
no problem with doing it. Speaking of fighting, If.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
God did you other than reading this, I was not listening.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
My sister was listening, and she told me, and I said,
you've got to be kidding me that the Press Secretary
Lovett her brother Michael, had they arrested his It was
his ex fiance, it's his baby mama, and supposedly now
this is this is more scuttle, but they had her arrested.
She was she was getting her visa, she was covered

(22:01):
under DAKA, but they pulled it, arrested her because they
share a child together and they're saying he didn't want
to pay child support, he wanted full custody, blah blah
blah blah blah. So he had her arrested. He lived
or he was in New Hampshire. I don't know if
she was delivering the child to him or picking up
her child, but they sent her all the way down
to Louisiana. She was fifteen hundred miles from where she

(22:24):
was arrested. So like, no resources down there. You know,
that's like you you being pulled and coming here to Boston.
You know, like your family's not here, they can't see you.
The attorneys that you'd hire wouldn't be you know, it's all.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Crazy. But she's out on bond.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
She's out on the lowest they could possibly legally give
her fifteen hundred.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Well, you listened to that story that you just said
that he wanted full custody and he was already in
New Hampshire and she came with and got arrested. Do
you smell set up? Do you smell Okay? Okay? Because
I could smell it as you were telling it. I
could smell it. I had to go get the pooper.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Ri Yeah, no, it absolute. I mean this is this
is this smacks of such Well, there's a million things
that smacks up.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
And it's the low down, gut bucket, backstab and cannavinus,
diabolical cannivness of all of this, Bobby, and I'm telling you,
it is laying a blueprint for everybody to think that
they can be this offensive and scandalous for everybody else.
It's it's because it's coming from the top. This is

(23:40):
tied to the White House, and you're doing this that
was unheard of in a in a real presidential and
democratic country like America, that was unheard. The scandals like
that would have got you out sit immediately.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
So any of the.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Presidents that we've had the past, the past will say,
five presidents, they I would have said, pull that, straighten
this shit out, fix this, make this go away, tell
your brother grow up.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Whatever. It wouldn't happened. First of all, we wouldn't be
pulling people. We're supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Getting the worst of the worst, which we all afford.
For convicted criminals. I don't know a person who isn't
about getting them out of the country.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
But they're not.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
They're going for the low hanging fruit. A lot of them,
and my god, when they do pull somebody, you hear
the crazy stories and lies that we listen to. Oh
they've got two.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
I was listening to President Trump going on on his
affordability tour, a lot of talk, not a lot, but affordability,
and he was saying, oh, you know, they've got two
killings under their belts, and like, who you know, they're
not telling us that when they give people's names, they're
like the gardener.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
The mop of the us. That's the new words that
they taught him for the reason. That's the new word
that they taught him for this week, affordability, because nothing
is affordable in America. Everything is up. Gas is up.
Yeah you said it was down, not stay of California.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
But California. Yeah. Yeah, So that's what that's all they're
talking about. Wicked so rent.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
So they keep saying energy, Well, gas is down. I know,
not in California. You guys have unbelievable taxes in California.
But I paid I think it was two sixty nine,
two seventy nine. I can't remember. I'm I'm having a
brain cramp yesterday.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
But that's it. I can tell you to heat the house.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
It's way more than it was last year to keep
my phone right now is plugged in the electricity. It's
not all energy, it's only some energy. I've heard on
the Sunday shows. I heard two different people that besent
talking about how our Thanksgiving meal was less.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
No, it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Turkeys were less because the Turkey farmers all took a
hit and gave.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
It to us cheaper, so it kind of balanced the
expense of the rest of it.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
You know, they're trying to kind of do their part
because you know it will talk about in two seconds
he's talking about, you know, tariffs aren't bad, but yet
he's going to give a twelve billion dollar in aid
to the poor farmers who are you know, are sinking underwater.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
But it is not. It's up.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Groceries are a solid three percent from September, and these
are his numbers. When he was on his affordability tour,
he started talking about affordability and he told everybody everything
is cheaper, We're doing better. Maybe don't buy so many
pencils because we get those from China. And if you're
getting dolls, don't buy maybe, you know, don't buy a

(26:37):
ton of dolls, just buy one or two and I'm
listening to him, I'm like, you were so out of touch.
He was like Marie Antoinette, let them eat cake. He's
so out of touch with what the actual person, you know,
has to go through. Trying to put the tariffs on
toys Christmas are unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Meanwhile, he meanwhile, he just had some bills to loan
his Donald Junior six hundred million dollars thankspayers. Run.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Oh god, don't even say that to me. That makes me.
I want to throw up. Yeah, I want to throw
up with that. But he was in a ranch. So
here's the other thing.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Everybody keeps talking about his health and how he's doing
great and blah blah blah. He's he's half fallen asleep
all the time, because that's what a seventy nine year
old does. I'm not blaming him. And he obviously has
health issues. He does not look great and he does
not look healthy. But he was off script. He was
supposed to go down to Pennsylvania. This was such a
wonderful opportunity that a president could go and try to

(27:37):
assuage people and you know, talk people off the ledge
that you know, that would have been terrific. But instead
he stirred the pot. He thinks he's still campaigning.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
God bless him.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
He doesn't realize and he keeps talking about charts. He says,
and look at the charts, and I'm like, wait, and
they're not Donald J. Trump's numbers there, they're whatever numbers.
He was trying to say that they were honest numbers,
and like, where are they coming from and what are
they saying? I don't even understand. He couldn't understand what
the charts were saying.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
It was.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
It was such a I said, oh my god, the
people that about that are behind him, and they're they're
higher wages. He's got wages so much higher, super high,
super high wages. And I'm like, wages haven't gone up anything.
People are getting laid off, not higher wages. That sort
of flattened out a little bit. I mean, the only
good news that we have is that the Federal Reserve

(28:24):
actually cut the interest rate again by another quarter, but
some of that had it's not because we're doing so great.
It's because we're not doing so great. Things are kind
of flattened out. Spending is sort of flattened out, so
they're trying to stimulate that. But I'm telling you everything
that comes out, the lies, the oh and then he
was he was, then he when he had nothing to say.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
At the end, he was.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Berating the trans athletes. What does what do trans athletes
have to do with the footability? We've already been there,
done that, We've already talked about it.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
It's done.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
And now you know that is one of his That
was one of his That was one of his key
points on running for presidency. So you know, he has
to always drop that little bread crumb to his base
because that keeps them infum. That that recircles back to
while we won this election in the first place, because
a lot of people nobody wants to say the quiet

(29:16):
part out loud, Yes, Kamala is a woman. This country
is very sexist, and to me, in fact that she
was a black woman, damn show was more scary. Even
Michelle Obama said that this country was not ready for
a female yet ready because of the sexism, the price
of eggs and transgender. To me, that they really pushed

(29:37):
that narrative to scare and rally up and put fear
in his base, fear enough for them to go to
the polls and stick with him all the way through
all of this bs that he's pushing through.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
And the horrible rhetoric.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
He was the ratings that Congresswoman Omar from Minnesota, the
she's Somalion and he was going on about the Somalis
and how bad they are there are I think there
are eighty two thousand that live in Minnesota. That is
the highest amount of that group. It's like one percent,
and how they're all scamming. There were seventy nine out

(30:10):
of eighty two people who were indicted for scamming for
COVID stuff. They were part of it. But that's not
the eighty something thousand. It's a handful of people. He's
just so hateful, he said, you know, he thinks that
the hell holes like Somalia send them back.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
We don't need them. And all she does is bitch.
I said, oh my god, he's like obsessed.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
And I knock all the Themalian people. I can't knock
all the Samalian people, but for the ones that had
but for the loud mouths, especially in wild in Minnesota
and all those ones that was teen Trump and wou woo.
And because my reasoning is the same as everybody else,

(30:55):
what did y'all think what did you think of the
things that he had already previously said about your country?
What did you think was coming and comported him? They
had so many rallies and Trump just like that, that
Latino woman Trump, and then they deported somebody and her
husband or one of her children or something. Bobby. People
are just that their way of thinking is irrational, shallow,

(31:18):
and you fall for the okie dog way too easy.
And when I tell you, the okie dog train is
in full effect. Man, it's the nuts out here and
it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
I mean, we had the week week and a half
ago we had the shooting in DC. The poor National
guards man and woman women passed, and then we had
another school shooting this week. I mean, there are there
are beyond nuts that are out there. They found the
DC pipe bomber, God bless them. He pipe bombed, she said,

(31:50):
because he thought the election was stolen.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Bless hush. But anyway, they've got him under rapp. Did
you see that the grand jury declined to and died.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Oh go ahead, wait a minute. I think that this
whole affordability tour is a setup and a smoke screen
for him to still try to salvage because it's his
numbers are so low. His approval rating is now very sad.
So I think he needs something right now to try
to try to balance it out. And that sounds good,

(32:21):
But if you're in the every day American who makes
just regular money, you know it doesn't sound good because
nothing is affordable. Nothing is affordable if there's no plan.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
He just keeps saying, my you know, my tariffs are
going to work. And as I said, he's promising people,
if your.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Tariffs work, why do you have to do this? He's
going to give the farmers who do need help twelve
billion dollars in aid. And he's talking about giving citizens
two thousand dollars, not all citizens, the probably under a
certain threshold. But if your tariffs are working, why would
anybody need help? And you were supposed to take that money.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Don't hold your breath for that two thousand. Don't hold
your breathway on that two thousand.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
I don't want the two thousand. Call it George the deaficitsistence.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Speaking of not going to get it, Lena have a President.
Donald Trump's former personal lawyer resigned Monday as the acting
US Attorney for the District of New Jersey following the
Appeals court ruling finding that she was serving in her
position unlawfully. You put her up there to be your
mouth piece and your bulldog. Were like, wasn't nobody gonna

(33:31):
check behind you and go clean up their bathroom after
you got about of it? And they did, and now
we found out, oh that bathroom main clean. You just
swip everything behind the toilet. I love it, Bobby. I
love that they're pulling down the walls of Jericho. Now
is this that you had to stick on? Hold on?
Is this the same lawyer that you had to sick?
You got an echo? Hello?

Speaker 3 (33:52):
No, no, no, No, I'm looking. I don't know, I
don't know. I can hear you. No.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Is this the lawyer that he used for James Comy
and for Letitia James.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
No, they don't know, Lutitia James said, the grand Jury's declined. Yeah, okay,
I don't know. I don't know who she is.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Off the top of my head. I'm trying to look.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Well, last she had to resign because any cases that
she had, she was unlowfully appointed there by him, because
but the Supreme Court just gave him. They just signed
some bill to give him just a little bit more
power as if he needed anymore.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Well, he's gonna hear it.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
So what they did is they took the case to
listen to see if he can go and fire people
in the federal government, such as the Federal Trade Commission,
which is very interested in and so we won't know
for sure until June, but they sort of are, you know,
letting us peek under their skirt a little bit, and
they were showing that the chances are they would, in fact,

(34:51):
you know, allow the executor in chief to do that.
And the liberals on the on the court are like,
this gives not him, just for everybody. This gives anybody
that sits in the seat of president too much power.
That's not what our That's not how our forefathers were
were setting up.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah, it's just every day I'm doing that for all
of you guys out there listening, because every day, I know,
y'all wake up and y'all like, okay today and then Ice, Bobby,
I'm just Ice is soa barbaric. But I love to
see that people are really fighting back and pushing back

(35:28):
against Ice. It makes me proud as Americ gonna say, hey,
we we some she ain't right. We ain't gonna do it.
Speaking of things not being right, I want to say
what is right is that Jimmy Kimmel signed at least
another one year extension with Disney so he would be
off of the Late Night Show. Good job, Jimmy Kimmel.
Good job Jimmy Kimmell. And again he's helping say.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
His ratings comfy, too bad, too bad. I think Late
Night in general is the ratings aren't what they are.
I don't think it's the actual Colbert Kimo or Fallon.
I think people are going to better earlier than they did,
but I didn't think Jimmy Kimmel's.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Ready so bad. Hey, our demographic is going to bad.
But b the younger demographic is making their own talk shows.
They're either on TikTok or YouTube or so. Everybody has
their own talk shows, so don't have time to watch
nobody else's talk show. A and B, Bobby, this is
going to intrigue you because your friend, your co host,

(36:28):
has been saying this since it happened. They're saying that
they think they don't think that Jeffrey Epstein is really dead.
He's supposed to be allegedly in Afghanistan with girl. It's
just a whole that it sounds very conspiracy. But Bobby,
I've been saying that that man is not dead. I've
been saying that, Bobby. It's just that I can tell you, Bobby,

(36:50):
that man ain't dead. It's some bullshit. He ain't dead.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Well, he might as.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Well be dead because he's a horrible person. We still
don't have all of his files. So the courts keep saying,
you can keep showing, showing, showing, showing, release everything.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
But you know, it's it's not actually getting.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
On a lighter notebody, you want to talk about the
farm Aid that you want to talk about the farm
Aid that your president allegedly is going to help build
out the American farmers with because I said allegedly because
he wanted to help the other ones before he helped
out with.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Well, supposedly it's twelve billion in aid that and it's
hand in hand with these promising US two thousand. I
mean they really supposedly eleven billion is going to go
out immediately, and then they're going to hold one or
two billion back for specialty crops. I don't know what
specialty crops are. I don't know if that means does
that pot. I don't know what a specialty crop is,

(37:43):
but supposedly that's what they're going to do. I can
tell you that these farmers need something, but fix fix
the flipping tariff issue first. If they you wouldn't have
to give them aid, if the tariffs were actually working
the way that you thought they were.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
But they're not.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
You know, we already know China's played chicken with us.
They're not buying our soybeans, you know, and that's a
huge crop for us. So But but I mean, I
hope they get it in time for Christmas something, and
they're stalking.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Believe that he's going to help the American farmers when
it happens. Stevie, one that has a song, says, when
dolphins fly and parents live at sea, that's when I
believe that he's going to help the American farmers. When
dolphins fly and parents live at sea.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I'd love to see something. I mean, I can tell
you something else. We're all I don't he says it.
He says everything though he's going to fix. Remember, he
had an idea on healthcare. He had a concept, not
an idea, concept that sounded nicer, But he doesn't. We
had two bills that went tonight. I can guarantee neither
one of them pasted. His big idea is to give

(38:50):
everybody an HSA a fund that they'll put money into.
But that doesn't bring down costs, flame the costs of
health care. So what what happens if you get four
thousand dollars?

Speaker 3 (39:02):
What are you going to do with that?

Speaker 2 (39:03):
That won't even pay for your annual physical? Now what
happens if you get sick? It makes absolutely no It
makes no sense. What let's get the cost down. Let's
get pharmaceuticals. Why are we paying hundreds times over for
pharmacy ven other countries?

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Why?

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Doesn't make any sense, especially since the bulk of them
are made here.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
So how do we How do we defeat? We got
to figure it out, Okay, and I just think we defeat.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yeah, we have to put our people.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
We have to Yeah, yeah, no, we vote, but you've
got to you've got to be smart with your vote.
VET people don't believe just what they say. For you,
young people, if you're listening, don't believe what they say
on TikTok and everything out.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Actually go and look at your person, see what their
platform is. See it.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
If aligns with what you want. Don't pick somebody like
some people just say, oh, everything's going to be free.
So this new mayor and he's changing his tune in
New York everything should be free.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
He wants to bring down housing costs.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
I love all of that, but you need to have
a plan on how you could actually do it, not
an idea of like tax the rich. That sounds great,
but that's never going to happen. We see how it's
working so far. The rich are being protected, they're paying
less than than the rest of us. So what is
another way that we can actually get things done? But
you've got to vote. You've got to get your people

(40:31):
out to vote. You have to shake, shake all the
branches in your family tree, drive people to the polls
and make it happen. And take an interest. Call your congressman,
all of the boring, horrible, non sexy stuff. That's what
you need to do, and take an interest.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Google stuff and everything there Boy's saying is absolutely true
and how important the vote is. And I know, I
know I'm frustrated too. You think they're going to cheat,
You think your vote is not going to count, you
think it's a going to matter. You think it's you know,
we all have that plant that seed of doubt in
our minds now because after the way it looked after

(41:08):
this last election. But guess what they're banking on that
They're banking on you throwing in the towns and I
don't trust my government, and we will because it's going
to make it that much easier for them to just
go ahead and do this again. Already they're trying to
put his name in the hat when the rules are
being changed that there could only be you could only
be the president for two terms, and now they're trying

(41:29):
to push a third changeing the rules. That's not let
them change the rules without us fighting back. I'm frustrated too.
I want to say the hell with it. I don't
want to vote. Fuck it. It don't mean nothing. But
guess what if ten of us said, then twenty of
us said, If twenty of said, one hundred of us said,
one hundred of us said ten thousand, and we lose,

(41:50):
And we lose by giving up the fight because we
didn't have any fight left. As I know us as
to be Americans. We are supposedly the home of the
freeland of the brave, and we damn show fight. It's
all over social media. We fight each other, Blacks, whites,
Puerto Ricans, Mexican, everybody fight. You fight each other, you
fight other cultures. Damn it. You better fight this administration

(42:11):
or guess what you will not be able to fight
with nobody. You're gonna be fighting for a grain of
salt or a piece of bread. And that is the god,
the honest truth, because it will be the We have
everything and y'all have nothing. Ain't no have or have nots.
We have everything and y'all have nothing. Is that how
you want to live? Because that ain't how I want
to live? But I'm damned sure gonna go.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Vote me too and on that know, everybody's votes be good.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
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