July 18, 2025 • 37 mins
It's Friday and you know what that means...it's time for HAPPY HOUR! Join our host, Jeremy Odem, as he enjoys that first Friday beer and runs down the topics of the week that was. This week, Jeremy is joined by his brother and former guest, Kyle Odem, as they discuss the Tiger King Joe Exotic episode from earlier this week on Laugh with Me. Also, Eric Larson calls in from vacation!
In this episdode:
-Kyle and JO break down the Joe Exotic interview
-Telling Joe he's been in prison for 2,503 days isn't appropriate to start the interview?
-Is Joe's Washington contacts any good?
-Joe Exotic wrote a book
-Any hope moving forward for Exotic?
-Eric Larson calls in from vacation!
-and SO MUCH MORE
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Welcome back. It's a brand new episode. This is Laugh
with Me, a podcast with Jeremy Oda by Beer Oh Jo.
It is the Friday Happy Hour, end of the week.
Time to crack open that first Friday beer an unwind
(00:43):
from the week that was. This week, We've got special guest.
He's been on the show many at times. He's my
brother Kyle Odum. We're gonna call him to so he's
not he's not live quite yet, but we're calling me
here a second. Here's what we're doing. We had the
(01:05):
Tiger King Joe Exotic calling in live from prison earlier
in the week. I know he's got some thoughts about it,
so we're gonna talk about it and uh, just kind
of unwind from the week. So let's uh let's get
the fellow a call right now. Let's see what's up.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yo yo. That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I wish I could say I've been working on it,
but I absolutely have not.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, that was pretty president, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I was just doing the intro for Friday Happy Hour
and I was just saying, it's it's Friday Happy Hour,
we're unwinding. It's from the week that's been and this
week I had the Tiger King and Joe Exotic calling
in from prison, and I know for a fact you've
(02:09):
got some thoughts. I've got some thoughts.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I thought it would be I thought it would be
fun to talk about it if you're down.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Okay, so let's do this.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
What you got?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
First? First thing? I first thing, if you remember, like,
because I know you've listened to the episode, and I thought,
and I just saw it literally seconds before he called.
I saw on his Instagram it said day two thousand,
five hundred and three of being wrongly imprisoned. And I thought, okay, well,
(02:46):
this is It's on his Instagram. I don't think he's
running the Instagram, like I don't, you know, I and
I he kind of made that clear because he had
no idea what I was talking about.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
But it is clearly, but it is.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
He's his official Instagram. And I thought, what a way
to kick off the conversation with you've been in prison
for two thousand, five hundred and three days. In hindsight,
that sucks, right, Like why if you're.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Going to hear that? Thanks for reminding me.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
If you've been in prison for twenty five hundred days,
you probably don't really want to be reminded of just
how long you've been in there.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh, He's like, yeah, and it's been awful everything on
one of them. Thanks Jeremy Glad I called you.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I know, I felt so bad. I instantly was like,
that was a mistake, little way to kick this off.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I got the vibes that he didn't even know what
Instagram was. He's like, oh, is that what they put
up there? Yep? All right, well I guess I've been
in here. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I tell you that's fair because he was picked up
in twenty eighteen, and who knows. I mean, I'm sure
he didn't even have an Instagram then, so who you know.
He obviously was on top of some things online because
he had an online TV show, you know he did.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
He was on the internet, his choice, hold on his
own thing.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah maybe all right.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So remember, no, I never heard of this guy until Netflix.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Okay, I know so and me too, like I've and
much like probably most of the people in the world
had never heard this guy until twenty twenty when the
Netflix show came out. But it locally, you know, in
his like in his world, he had his online show
(04:38):
where he would read Carol Baskin's diary and and update
people on what they kind of documented a little bit
of that. Yeah, so he's he wasn't unfamiliar with the Internet,
and he wasn't unfamiliar with like memes and and things
in that you know sense. But he probably has no
(04:59):
I mean he even say he has no clue how
big he is. But he has no clue that like
the world of social media today and just kind of
how it wraps are it's our world, you know.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Yeah, no idea, but here's the deal. So he made
a big impact, right, that was the whole thing. The
whole world's talking about it. Yeah, but now it's gone.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Right. But he's like, okay, listen to him. He's like, yeah,
when I get out of here, I'm gonna buy one
of them. Okay, let me back up. He's like, I
got no money to see these people. I got no
money to do any of this, right right.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
And then he's like, when I get out, I'm buying
one of them Trump five million dollar gold cards so
I can move my husband to America. It's like, homie,
you have five dollars, Like, where are you getting this
five million dollars?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So and that goes back to like I was telling him,
you know, it's like, dude, thirty four million people watched
The Tiger King on Netflix in the first ten days
of release, and they had a season two. How many
documentaries do you know get a season two and a
season three? So on there's Yeah, it's not really about him,
it's about it's about that guy, doc Annel that just
(06:09):
got sentenced to a year in prison for animal trafficking,
and he's in you know, the first two seasons. But
it's more about like his world, but still the brand itself.
Oh yeah, he hates all those people. But but yeah,
like I think he's banking on I get out of prison.
I have incredible value to my name, or at least
(06:32):
he believes he does, to the point that he can sell,
you know, certain rights to stories or he says he's
got three awesome movie deals right now on the table,
but he needs to be out in order to make
this deal work.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, but he's not out. So he's been in there
for how long do we say, so he's been in years?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, more than that. He's been in since twenty eighteen.
He's on a twenty one year sentence.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
How far back is twenty five hundred days. Okay, so
twenty eighteen.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
So you got a wild guy fifteen years Like, what
do you who's this is wild?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
He's gonna yeah, We're gonna make a movie when I'm eighty.
I don't know, man, Well, playing is kind of a whack.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
That's if you're basing it on. He's gonna service twenty
one years.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Here's the thing. We've got the pardon situation on the table,
where he feels that he was wrongly accused, that there's
a lot of evidence out there now where the witnesses
are backtracking the things that they said in core or
on the record, and that the president is going to
give him a full pardon and he's gonna be out.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Well, first of all, that was one of my favorite
parts of the thing. I feel like he here's the deal.
He thinks that he's innocent.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Like, if you watched that thing, you know his feelings
on Caroll Basket. He straight up is hiring folks to
kill her. Yeah, Cecainly He's like, he's like, yeah, I'm
gonna get pardoned. Proceeds to name off the worst folks
in the world and he's.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Like, yeah, they're gonna get me out of here. It's like, dude,
you are what is happening right now? What is happening?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
He does have the like the ear of the core
people that you would think of when you when you
think maga.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
You know, do you think that's real though? Do you
think like people are actually like those people? Do you
think they're like, we got to get the Tiger King out.
That's just what this comes down to.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Well, it's tough. Who knows who knows how like active
they actually are in you know, you only get the
president's ear for what seconds probably if you do, you know, yeah,
And then is Joe Exotic the name that comes up
when you do have his ear, But they definitely get
asked about it, Like you can find press clippings of
(08:54):
you know, the press asking these very people about Joe Exotic,
and they are certainly aware of what's going on, but
that doesn't mean that they're actually actively you know, working
on the behalf of the Tiger King to get him
a pardon?
Speaker 5 (09:09):
No, And are they asking that in the year of
our Lord twenty twenty five? Right, maybe twenty twenty maybe
twenty twenty one, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Did you catch my beeal juice joke.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Okay, I was like lost on the bed, like I
don't know anything about it. Okay, you were like, You're like,
she really likes beal juice and he did. It was
now he was like, okay, I get brag.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I did not think he would get the joke. So
it wasn't necessary. It wasn't for him. It was for
the audience. But so Lauren Bobert she a couple of
years ago, she was on a first date and she
went to see Beetlejuice the musical, and she may or
(09:55):
may not have been caught doing something inappropriate to her
first day while she was watching the show.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
That's awesome. Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Yeah, all right, now knowing that and now he's just like, okay,
that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, so man, that's uh yeah, So that's I never
thought he would get it, because you know, he's probably
the amount of information he gets, I mean, it's very minimal, right.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
I would think. So, I don't know, we got to
do an investigative. How do they get How much TV
can they watch to day? How can they how much
can they read what's going on in there?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
That's a good question. I mean he wrote his book.
He has a book. I didn't talk about the book
on the pod, but he does have a book out,
and what do you do that? Well, I just I
knew I had limited time. So that's the other thing.
I didn't know how much time I was going to
have with him. I just knew I had until they
cut us off. So it ended up being fifteen minutes.
(10:56):
I didn't know I had fifteen minutes. I thought I
could have seven, I could have eight, Like I I
didn't know, right, I just knew it wasn't going to
be a lot. So I had a list of questions
I wanted to get to as mini as I could.
I wanted to ask follow ups where appropriate. But I
also knew I had limited time. So the music, to me,
was more important to talk about than the book.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, you turned to the music. What's that all about?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Have you? You mean? His music is a big part
of the of the documentary Tiger King.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Where's Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
So I was just so interested of is he writing
more music? Is this something he wants to do outside
when he gets out? Is this something he performs inside
for his for I almost said classmates, for his for
his inmates, like for me for the prisoners, Like is
this something he's doing and he's entertaining the masses inside?
(11:49):
I mean it sounds like that is a hard no.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
But.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Oh no, oh no, yeah, I just I was intrigued
by it because I just imagined sometimes all right, it
goes back to Seinfeld and the finale, the Seinfeld finale
when they end up in prison and then the very
like the very last scene, Jerry's doing stand up you know,
for yeah, that's fair for the population. And I'm just like,
(12:15):
do entertainers do that? Like is R Kelly performing, you know,
like in prison? And they're just like, I can't wait
for this week's R. Kelly concert, you know, like I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
We just found out that's a definite no.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
And you did you hear his his answer that you're like,
you're on new music And then he goes on this
thing and then when he comes back, he's like, actually,
I'm writing it and send it off to my girls
out there and they just put it in the AI
and it does the music and the vocals. So like
this dude's writing like three lines of words and he's
calling that writing music nowadays?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
What's happening?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I know? AI just think of the kind of stuff
he could get out there right now if he was
out and he had a to do a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Oh my gosh, that's a scary thought.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Oh he'd he'd be a monster, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I want some Carole Baskin songs, So I get that.
I'm ready if the world is ready.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I think if I hit the hell k as hip part,
like all right. So I asked him about Doc Annel
and he he was very open about how that guy's
getting what he deserves to an extent, he's only got
one year. He's he's like almost jealous of it, you know,
he only got one year, whereas Joe Exotics in there
for twenty one. But like, it does seem like the
(13:35):
people around him that were in that documentary Tiger King,
they were all involved in something, yeah, and they're all
starting to now. It's just all kind of catching up
to him in one way or another. Man, I'm interested
to know if Carole Baskin, who seems like the cleanest
of the bunch, but there's all that rumor and inn
window that she killed her ex husband, so who knows.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
She definitely killed her husband. She's definitely a terrible person.
Here's the deal.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
When you're dealing with folks who own actual tigers, everything
is sketch. No part of their life can be queen.
Everything is all sketch.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, that's oh so funny story. So I had, you know,
I'm doing research for the for the interview, So I'm
watching Tiger King right and uh, Branden. He comes in
and he sees that there's like these people that just
have tigers, and he's like, holy cow, you could do that.
Is that the guy you're going to talk to? Can
we get tigers? And I'm like, we are not getting tigers,
(14:30):
Like this is not a thing. Did you not catch
the part where he's calling from prison, like this is
not happening, dude.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I love You're like, you guys are just having an interview.
He's like telling us stories. Whatever's Like this call is
that's my favorite? I love.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I debated. I'm like, do I take that out? Like
do I edit that out? Or is that kind of
like sets the tone for what is actually like because
there is a reality to this, Like he's you know,
he's a re reality TV personality of sorts. Yeah, but
but there is reality to this, whereas the the consequences
of his actions that we saw unfold, you know, in
(15:11):
twenty twenty with the Tiger King or why he is
where he is right now?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Oh yeah, no, that was great. That was great.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
And you gotta understand, when you hire somebody to kill somebody,
you're going to jail.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
And not only are you going to.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Jail, you're gonna be in there and you're going to
be somehow sad that somebody else got a lesser sentence.
You're just gonna completely ignore that you hired a human
to kill a human and be like, well, that guy
only got a hear what is going.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
On here, right, you know? And so and one of
the guys, it's uh, I forget his name, but he's
in the documentary and he's one of the people that
worked for Joe at the zoo. But it's that guy,
you know that they kind of chronicle like that he
you know, allegedly paid to go down to Florida wherever
and try to kill Carol, right yeah. And one of
(16:00):
his stances right now is that that guy allegedly lied,
you know, in his in his testimony or whatever. And
that's some of the facts. But I was when I
was reading about the case. He also made uh pay.
I don't know if he made payments or offer to
make payments to somebody to go do this murder for
(16:22):
hire to and undercover FBI like agents. So yeah, what
even if this guy, Yeah, that's tough. That's tough. So
I don't know what more he has, and I don't
know what kind of lawyer like team he's got because
that's not cheap, right, So.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Well, he has five dollars, so his lawyer team cannot
be very good, although they could be doing the game
where like they're actually great lawyers because they know at
the end of this thing, hopefully they'll get paid.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
So you never know. You never know. But here's the deal.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
It's really not fair that he's in there for twenty
one years because he's just fixing babies faces.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
So he does that's.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Just fixing babies faces. I don't know why they're broken,
but he's fixing them.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
That's the part that a lot of people are forgetting
is that he did do a lot of good and
he did this way before any of the criminal things.
He was fixing babies faces, you know, helping families that
couldn't afford that kind of medical procedures. And then he
also fed the hungry quite often.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
He said on Carol Baskin, cut her up.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
No, no, no, She's still alive. So that's the he
probably would do more of the good. You know, when
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Speaker 2 (20:21):
He was just, what are you gonna do out of prison?
Fix more babies faces? Okay, all right, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
It's smart on his behalf, though, to just if that's
the question, you know, what are you gonna do to
get in prison? And then instantly hit the the goodwill
things you did before, you.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Know, like, that's that's fair.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, I gotta get the job done.
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Speaker 1 (20:46):
Actually, he was, you know what, I didn't know what
to expect. I didn't know he's been in there a
long time at this point. I didn't know if we
were gonna get a beaten down. You know, he's sick,
you know, he's he's a special treatment facility for cancer
right now. So I didn't know what we'd get or
(21:06):
if we get a guy that was hopeful, energeticche and
just kind of felt like the day is coming soon
when when he's gonna get released. I was happy I
got the opportunity to ask him if he's on the
Epstein list. That was good. We got that out of
the way.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
That was hilarious. I don't even know who Epstein is.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
All he knows is that that name is in the
news and it's not good for Trump. That's all he knew.
It is not good, sir, oh man, what a what
a day?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Though?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
He's man, it sucked because like the call just abruptly ends,
right yeah, and then I'm like, well, dang. I was
enjoying talking to him, like I need more time, Like
where'd you go? Like I just I was left wanting more.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Well, in fifteen years, you got to send alarm fifteen
years from now he's out.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You gotta be like, Joe, you're my guy. We talked,
let's talk for longer, yep, do this.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I did email him after and I was like, hey, man,
you need to call in and you want to go
back on laugh with me. You let me know you
are back, Like that was that I didn't get enough,
you know.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
I like when you're like, you know, we find out
he's remarried or whatever, and it's like.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That's incredible. You fell in love in prison. He's just like, yeah,
it happens.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
You don't know where it's gonna with. Love's gonna hit you.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Yeah, sir, we don't know what happens in there. We'll
tell us.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I missed it that his his new husband was was
released from prison and then immediately deported, Like I must
have missed that whole thing. So then I go back
after and I'm reading about it. Sure enough, it's he's
in Mexico and he's doing the work for Joe. He's
trying to get Joe pardon and get the word out.
(23:02):
And then and Joe I've even seen. He's willing. He's
like Trump doesn't want bad people in America anymore. Great,
I'll buy my own ticket. I'm heading to Mexico. Like
he's ready to go.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, pardon me, and I'm out. I'm out.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah, Yeah, he's uh, he's he's pretty honest about it,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
He is he is. I liked it. I liked it.
It makes me want to check out his book. He's
an interesting guy.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah like that one. Oh so what I was saying
about the book is, uh, he he wrote it while
he was in prison, and he used his thirty minutes
of computer time a day in order to write the book.
So it was quite the process.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
But that's uh, at least that's what you know. He said.
So he he has. Yeah, so he's got a book out.
I don't know anything about it other than he's got
a book and he used his thirty minutes a day
to write it. That's all I know.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
That's that's the info. You're gathered this book all you know.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
That's all I know. But we should learn more about it.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
For when we have the follow up interview years.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
In fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yes, I like it. I like it. Oh yeah, you
I need to know. Did you not hit up Carol
Baskins Instagram and.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Just shoot a message and be like, hey, I got
this podcast if you would like to come on.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
You know what, that's a hell of an idea. That's
a hell of an idea.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
That's what I bring to the table here.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I think I think I should have you know what,
and you know what's great about Carol, She's gonna have
more time. Oh yeah, and right, so yeah, you know what,
great idea, cop I am going to hit up Carol
Baskin and uh now that's that's kind of my goal
is to care.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Going down here, you know, taking on the world. Yep,
one one Netflix star at a time.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
That's right awesome. Can you imagine thirty four million people
watching your watching your show your life in like the
first ten days of a release about it?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Like, that's insane, that would be crazy. I wouldn't I
would crumble. I would curl into a ball and never
come out of my house again.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Like how many hundreds of millions by now have seen
this story and everything they know about you is this?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It is wild, It really is.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I can't even think like that. I can't even think
that big. That's crazy. Gosh, we got to get.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
A Netflix show, we really do. What what would we
call it?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
We'll figure it out. Just to dudes, all right, that's
that about. I don't know two dudes.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
All they do is talk about the Tiger King.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
All right, we'll come up with a better Now.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
That these shows. I didn't realize.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, it turns out they put a lot
of work in the TV shows, like they don't just
come up with it on the fly, burn a podcast.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I thought it just kind of happened. I was I
was wrong. Today's the day I learned, folks, I got smarter.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Uh Joe exoticofficial dot com. If anyone listening wants to
find out more information about him, or even to donate,
because he's he's using the money that he raises from
the website to help with his own expenses inside and
then also to help with awareness, to help get that pardon.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Cool? Do you hate that book on there?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I think you can.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Can you get an autographed book on there? Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I highly doubt it.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, you have to smuggle it in, sign us, smuggle
it out.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
It's the whole process. If you know a guy I
don't know, maybe maybe find a guy I don't know.
There's always that guy inside that could just get things.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
This is true.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Maybe there's a guy that can bring in books, get
them signed, get them out.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
You know, I got we gotta find out about it.
We gotta figure out how to do this. If he's
not doing this, just.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Sink how much money he can make if he could
actually figure that out. Because you're lawyers, everybody like you're
gonna buy the book, right, I'm probably gonna buy the book.
If that's the case, I gotta I gotta check it out.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
We're all in now, all right.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Final thoughts on The Tiger King Joe Zac on Laugh
with Me.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I freaking loved it. I did not know what to expect.
I think I told you. I was very frightened when
I first saw load onto my phone. It was awesome.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I kind of want to go rewatch the Tiger King.
I want to see how that goes down. Gotta see
him get not pardoned, Gotta see him putting in his time,
get out, go to Mexico, buy some sort of weird
gold card for money that he doesn't have, and then
get back.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I want to see how all that works out. I'm
invested now, I'm invested. There you go.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Joe's got a new fan in Kyle all from his
call in on Laugh with Me. I I do don't.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I don't know. It's like a curiosity.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Okay, not all right, that's fair, you know, I didn't.
I don't think I fully understood that the the video
coverage was from a mostly footage that he was having
filmed that Netflix purchased or the producer's purchased, and then
did the interviews and testimonials at things after he's in prison.
(28:26):
I don't think I when I watched it, I understood
all that, and I don't think I grasped that even after.
But then when he's talking about it, we'll shoot and
I go back and watch, like the first couple of episodes,
I'm like, Okay, this is like a whole different spin
on it now, knowing that all these people are talking
about him, knowing that he's in prison right now.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah. Yeah, I never thought about that either until he
said that. It's like, what some thing you got to
think about? Who who did he put in charge of
his estate? And that person obviously signed something to just
release all his stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
They sure did.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
It's not good. It's a mess.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Well, that's that's the South. That's the South, baby, you know,
that's the South.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
That's what we're doing in the South. Eric knows about that.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Eric, Yeah, he knows all about that. He's uh, he's
as far north as you can get right now.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Though.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
What Yeah, He's like vacationing in like North Dakota or something.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Oh damn, that's yeah, that's the tip of the tip
of the earth there.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, so all right, well, thanks for calling in and
giving us your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, thanks for calling Get more, get that, Carroll Baskin. Yeah,
I'll do the recap. I'll do the recap. I'll answer
the phone.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
It'll be great, awesome. I'm I'll work on it right now,
all right, see it later. But yeah, that's uh, that's Kyle,
and uh, he's not a fan necessarily a Joe exotic,
but he is certainly very intrigued. Now, I did just
brought up that Eric is on vacation. So Eric, you know,
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he's been on the show many a times, as often
as just a couple of episodes ago, and he's he's
in like North Dakota or something like that. But anyway,
Eric is called in. He left me a voice memo.
I have not listened to it yet, so I have
no idea what he's gonna say, but we're gonna listen
(30:28):
to it right now and just see how vacation is going.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
Hey, Jo, this is this is audiologue number one of
my grand tour of.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Really two states.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
But all the states.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
Tonight, I'm in Fargo, North Dakota, and you might be asking,
where is Fargo.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Well, it's way fucking.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
North, Like it's all the way north, and don't give
you it with the movie. The movie happened in Minnesota.
There are no people getting wood chippard in Fargo. Spoiler
alert for a movie that was twenty years ago. So
tonight I proceeded to go to a bar where I
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played blackjack, and you might be.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Asking yourself, hey, how does one.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Go to a bar and play blackjack?
Speaker 7 (31:29):
Well, in North Dakota, you can play blackjack at a bar.
The bar just can't run the blackjack table. The blackjack
tables run by a charity, whether it's Boys and Girls
Club of America or it's you know, the Salvation Army.
Somebody's running that blackjack table and collecting the profits, and
(31:50):
the bar is just selling you the drinks. So in
some ways, in retrospect, when I look back at tonight's actions,
I'm very charitable because I proceeded to set down one
hundred dollars on their fine black check table, and I
(32:10):
proceeded to leave with none of that money. Which it's
a bad it's a bad.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Omen for a couple of for a couple of reasons.
Number one, you never want to start a vacation. I mean,
this is going to be the first of perhaps twelve
travelogs that I'm going to be shared with you, and
I do not want to start with a loss. And
(32:39):
number two, how can I have any confidence gambling after
this point if I haven't won?
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Because you know, as much as we talk about the
strategy of gambling, winning is so much better than losing,
and especially when you're at.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
These tables where perhaps you have lost.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Uh you know what, what what fountain of luck is the.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
That just you have that one gambler there that's.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Just they're too drunk to play, or they're too dope
to play, and they just happened to always at that
Ace nine or that you know, not even the perfect blackjack,
they just happened to like just luck into it. So
at the table tonight, I had that, I had that
(33:41):
that that bimbo himbo guy sitting all in the left,
he's playing two hands at a time, He's not paying
attention at all.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
He's constantly happened to be reprimanded by the dealer to
just pay attention, just to wave his hand over his
pair of faceguards. Yet this guy is just raking it in.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
Meanwhile, you're truly playing by the book, probably maybe, but
playing you.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Know, very straightforward. Nothing, can't can't catch a card.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
To save my life, drinking, you know, Budweiser after Budweiser,
trying to rejuvenate that luck and nothing. But there's for
a good cause, so you know, perhaps there is something
to that question when he's heavy on my mind though,
(34:49):
am I going to be able to get up tomorrow
morning to spend the day with my family and then
go to a casino a bar in North Dakota and
do it again?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Chances seem pretty likely. Well, do you know how it goes?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
There? You go Eric's first trouble log on vacation and
he's losing his ass at the blackjack table at bars.
Which is an interesting situation that you can just walk
into a bar in North Dakota and be able to
grab a seat at the table and have them sponsored
(35:37):
by local organization. It's kind of like so like here
in Omaha over Fourth of July, you had fireworks tents everywhere.
You know, everybody's selling fireworks. You had to pick which
one you want to go to not based on the
deals that they were offering, you know, by eighteen or
buy one, get eighteen free or whatever it is. No,
(35:58):
this was like go to this tent because it supports
the local library, or go to this tent and it
supports the Little League team that plays down the street.
Like it's just stuff like that. It'd be crazy if
you walked up to a bar in North Dakota and
you walk up to the one of the tables and
it's like, hey, all winnings or all losses in your case,
(36:21):
Eric go towards fixing kids' faces. Courtesy of Joe Exotic
the Tiger King, Like, don't you think that would be
cool that you knew even if you lost, even if
everything that the house won that night went back to
fixing kids' faces, that'd be pretty neat. That'd be pretty neat,
(36:49):
all right, Well, thanks Kyle, Thanks Eric, and thank you
Joe Zada for calling in earlier in the week. This
is the Friday Happy Hour. Enjoy your weekend.
Welcome back. It's a brand new episode. This is Laugh
with Me, a podcast with Jeremy Oda by Beer Oh Jo.
It is the Friday Happy Hour, end of the week.
Time to crack open that first Friday beer an unwind
(00:43):
from the week that was. This week, We've got special guest.
He's been on the show many at times. He's my
brother Kyle Odum. We're gonna call him to so he's
not he's not live quite yet, but we're calling me
here a second. Here's what we're doing. We had the
(01:05):
Tiger King Joe Exotic calling in live from prison earlier
in the week. I know he's got some thoughts about it,
so we're gonna talk about it and uh, just kind
of unwind from the week. So let's uh let's get
the fellow a call right now. Let's see what's up.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yo yo. That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I wish I could say I've been working on it,
but I absolutely have not.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, that was pretty president, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I was just doing the intro for Friday Happy Hour
and I was just saying, it's it's Friday Happy Hour,
we're unwinding. It's from the week that's been and this
week I had the Tiger King and Joe Exotic calling
in from prison, and I know for a fact you've
(02:09):
got some thoughts. I've got some thoughts.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I thought it would be I thought it would be
fun to talk about it if you're down.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Okay, so let's do this.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
What you got?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
First? First thing? I first thing, if you remember, like,
because I know you've listened to the episode, and I thought,
and I just saw it literally seconds before he called.
I saw on his Instagram it said day two thousand,
five hundred and three of being wrongly imprisoned. And I thought, okay, well,
(02:46):
this is It's on his Instagram. I don't think he's
running the Instagram, like I don't, you know, I and
I he kind of made that clear because he had
no idea what I was talking about.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
But it is clearly, but it is.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
He's his official Instagram. And I thought, what a way
to kick off the conversation with you've been in prison
for two thousand, five hundred and three days. In hindsight,
that sucks, right, Like why if you're.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Going to hear that? Thanks for reminding me.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
If you've been in prison for twenty five hundred days,
you probably don't really want to be reminded of just
how long you've been in there.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh, He's like, yeah, and it's been awful everything on
one of them. Thanks Jeremy Glad I called you.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I know, I felt so bad. I instantly was like,
that was a mistake, little way to kick this off.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I got the vibes that he didn't even know what
Instagram was. He's like, oh, is that what they put
up there? Yep? All right, well I guess I've been
in here. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I tell you that's fair because he was picked up
in twenty eighteen, and who knows. I mean, I'm sure
he didn't even have an Instagram then, so who you know.
He obviously was on top of some things online because
he had an online TV show, you know he did.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
He was on the internet, his choice, hold on his
own thing.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah maybe all right.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So remember, no, I never heard of this guy until Netflix.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Okay, I know so and me too, like I've and
much like probably most of the people in the world
had never heard this guy until twenty twenty when the
Netflix show came out. But it locally, you know, in
his like in his world, he had his online show
(04:38):
where he would read Carol Baskin's diary and and update
people on what they kind of documented a little bit
of that. Yeah, so he's he wasn't unfamiliar with the Internet,
and he wasn't unfamiliar with like memes and and things
in that you know sense. But he probably has no
(04:59):
I mean he even say he has no clue how
big he is. But he has no clue that like
the world of social media today and just kind of
how it wraps are it's our world, you know.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Yeah, no idea, but here's the deal. So he made
a big impact, right, that was the whole thing. The
whole world's talking about it. Yeah, but now it's gone.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Right. But he's like, okay, listen to him. He's like, yeah,
when I get out of here, I'm gonna buy one
of them. Okay, let me back up. He's like, I
got no money to see these people. I got no
money to do any of this, right right.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
And then he's like, when I get out, I'm buying
one of them Trump five million dollar gold cards so
I can move my husband to America. It's like, homie,
you have five dollars, Like, where are you getting this
five million dollars?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So and that goes back to like I was telling him,
you know, it's like, dude, thirty four million people watched
The Tiger King on Netflix in the first ten days
of release, and they had a season two. How many
documentaries do you know get a season two and a
season three? So on there's Yeah, it's not really about him,
it's about it's about that guy, doc Annel that just
(06:09):
got sentenced to a year in prison for animal trafficking,
and he's in you know, the first two seasons. But
it's more about like his world, but still the brand itself.
Oh yeah, he hates all those people. But but yeah,
like I think he's banking on I get out of prison.
I have incredible value to my name, or at least
(06:32):
he believes he does, to the point that he can sell,
you know, certain rights to stories or he says he's
got three awesome movie deals right now on the table,
but he needs to be out in order to make
this deal work.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, but he's not out. So he's been in there
for how long do we say, so he's been in years?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, more than that. He's been in since twenty eighteen.
He's on a twenty one year sentence.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
How far back is twenty five hundred days. Okay, so
twenty eighteen.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
So you got a wild guy fifteen years Like, what
do you who's this is wild?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
He's gonna yeah, We're gonna make a movie when I'm eighty.
I don't know, man, Well, playing is kind of a whack.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
That's if you're basing it on. He's gonna service twenty
one years.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Here's the thing. We've got the pardon situation on the table,
where he feels that he was wrongly accused, that there's
a lot of evidence out there now where the witnesses
are backtracking the things that they said in core or
on the record, and that the president is going to
give him a full pardon and he's gonna be out.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Well, first of all, that was one of my favorite
parts of the thing. I feel like he here's the deal.
He thinks that he's innocent.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Like, if you watched that thing, you know his feelings
on Caroll Basket. He straight up is hiring folks to
kill her. Yeah, Cecainly He's like, he's like, yeah, I'm
gonna get pardoned. Proceeds to name off the worst folks
in the world and he's.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Like, yeah, they're gonna get me out of here. It's like, dude,
you are what is happening right now? What is happening?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
He does have the like the ear of the core
people that you would think of when you when you
think maga.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
You know, do you think that's real though? Do you
think like people are actually like those people? Do you
think they're like, we got to get the Tiger King out.
That's just what this comes down to.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Well, it's tough. Who knows who knows how like active
they actually are in you know, you only get the
president's ear for what seconds probably if you do, you know, yeah,
And then is Joe Exotic the name that comes up
when you do have his ear, But they definitely get
asked about it, Like you can find press clippings of
(08:54):
you know, the press asking these very people about Joe Exotic,
and they are certainly aware of what's going on, but
that doesn't mean that they're actually actively you know, working
on the behalf of the Tiger King to get him
a pardon?
Speaker 5 (09:09):
No, And are they asking that in the year of
our Lord twenty twenty five? Right, maybe twenty twenty maybe
twenty twenty one, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Did you catch my beeal juice joke.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Okay, I was like lost on the bed, like I
don't know anything about it. Okay, you were like, You're like,
she really likes beal juice and he did. It was
now he was like, okay, I get brag.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I did not think he would get the joke. So
it wasn't necessary. It wasn't for him. It was for
the audience. But so Lauren Bobert she a couple of
years ago, she was on a first date and she
went to see Beetlejuice the musical, and she may or
(09:55):
may not have been caught doing something inappropriate to her
first day while she was watching the show.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
That's awesome. Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Yeah, all right, now knowing that and now he's just like, okay,
that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, so man, that's uh yeah, So that's I never
thought he would get it, because you know, he's probably
the amount of information he gets, I mean, it's very minimal, right.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
I would think. So, I don't know, we got to
do an investigative. How do they get How much TV
can they watch to day? How can they how much
can they read what's going on in there?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
That's a good question. I mean he wrote his book.
He has a book. I didn't talk about the book
on the pod, but he does have a book out,
and what do you do that? Well, I just I
knew I had limited time. So that's the other thing.
I didn't know how much time I was going to
have with him. I just knew I had until they
cut us off. So it ended up being fifteen minutes.
(10:56):
I didn't know I had fifteen minutes. I thought I
could have seven, I could have eight, Like I I
didn't know, right, I just knew it wasn't going to
be a lot. So I had a list of questions
I wanted to get to as mini as I could.
I wanted to ask follow ups where appropriate. But I
also knew I had limited time. So the music, to me,
was more important to talk about than the book.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, you turned to the music. What's that all about?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Have you? You mean? His music is a big part
of the of the documentary Tiger King.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Where's Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
So I was just so interested of is he writing
more music? Is this something he wants to do outside
when he gets out? Is this something he performs inside
for his for I almost said classmates, for his for
his inmates, like for me for the prisoners, Like is
this something he's doing and he's entertaining the masses inside?
(11:49):
I mean it sounds like that is a hard no.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
But.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Oh no, oh no, yeah, I just I was intrigued
by it because I just imagined sometimes all right, it
goes back to Seinfeld and the finale, the Seinfeld finale
when they end up in prison and then the very
like the very last scene, Jerry's doing stand up you know,
for yeah, that's fair for the population. And I'm just like,
(12:15):
do entertainers do that? Like is R Kelly performing, you know,
like in prison? And they're just like, I can't wait
for this week's R. Kelly concert, you know, like I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
We just found out that's a definite no.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
And you did you hear his his answer that you're like,
you're on new music And then he goes on this
thing and then when he comes back, he's like, actually,
I'm writing it and send it off to my girls
out there and they just put it in the AI
and it does the music and the vocals. So like
this dude's writing like three lines of words and he's
calling that writing music nowadays?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
What's happening?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I know? AI just think of the kind of stuff
he could get out there right now if he was
out and he had a to do a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Oh my gosh, that's a scary thought.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Oh he'd he'd be a monster, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I want some Carole Baskin songs, So I get that.
I'm ready if the world is ready.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I think if I hit the hell k as hip part,
like all right. So I asked him about Doc Annel
and he he was very open about how that guy's
getting what he deserves to an extent, he's only got
one year. He's he's like almost jealous of it, you know,
he only got one year, whereas Joe Exotics in there
for twenty one. But like, it does seem like the
(13:35):
people around him that were in that documentary Tiger King,
they were all involved in something, yeah, and they're all
starting to now. It's just all kind of catching up
to him in one way or another. Man, I'm interested
to know if Carole Baskin, who seems like the cleanest
of the bunch, but there's all that rumor and inn
window that she killed her ex husband, so who knows.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
She definitely killed her husband. She's definitely a terrible person.
Here's the deal.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
When you're dealing with folks who own actual tigers, everything
is sketch. No part of their life can be queen.
Everything is all sketch.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, that's oh so funny story. So I had, you know,
I'm doing research for the for the interview, So I'm
watching Tiger King right and uh, Branden. He comes in
and he sees that there's like these people that just
have tigers, and he's like, holy cow, you could do that.
Is that the guy you're going to talk to? Can
we get tigers? And I'm like, we are not getting tigers,
(14:30):
Like this is not a thing. Did you not catch
the part where he's calling from prison, like this is
not happening, dude.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I love You're like, you guys are just having an interview.
He's like telling us stories. Whatever's Like this call is
that's my favorite? I love.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I debated. I'm like, do I take that out? Like
do I edit that out? Or is that kind of
like sets the tone for what is actually like because
there is a reality to this, Like he's you know,
he's a re reality TV personality of sorts. Yeah, but
but there is reality to this, whereas the the consequences
of his actions that we saw unfold, you know, in
(15:11):
twenty twenty with the Tiger King or why he is
where he is right now?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Oh yeah, no, that was great. That was great.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
And you gotta understand, when you hire somebody to kill somebody,
you're going to jail.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
And not only are you going to.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Jail, you're gonna be in there and you're going to
be somehow sad that somebody else got a lesser sentence.
You're just gonna completely ignore that you hired a human
to kill a human and be like, well, that guy
only got a hear what is going.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
On here, right, you know? And so and one of
the guys, it's uh, I forget his name, but he's
in the documentary and he's one of the people that
worked for Joe at the zoo. But it's that guy,
you know that they kind of chronicle like that he
you know, allegedly paid to go down to Florida wherever
and try to kill Carol, right yeah. And one of
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his stances right now is that that guy allegedly lied,
you know, in his in his testimony or whatever. And
that's some of the facts. But I was when I
was reading about the case. He also made uh pay.
I don't know if he made payments or offer to
make payments to somebody to go do this murder for
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hire to and undercover FBI like agents. So yeah, what
even if this guy, Yeah, that's tough. That's tough. So
I don't know what more he has, and I don't
know what kind of lawyer like team he's got because
that's not cheap, right, So.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Well, he has five dollars, so his lawyer team cannot
be very good, although they could be doing the game
where like they're actually great lawyers because they know at
the end of this thing, hopefully they'll get paid.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
So you never know. You never know. But here's the deal.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
It's really not fair that he's in there for twenty
one years because he's just fixing babies faces.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
So he does that's.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Just fixing babies faces. I don't know why they're broken,
but he's fixing them.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
That's the part that a lot of people are forgetting
is that he did do a lot of good and
he did this way before any of the criminal things.
He was fixing babies faces, you know, helping families that
couldn't afford that kind of medical procedures. And then he
also fed the hungry quite often.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
He said on Carol Baskin, cut her up.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
No, no, no, She's still alive. So that's the he
probably would do more of the good. You know, when
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Speaker 2 (20:21):
He was just, what are you gonna do out of prison?
Fix more babies faces? Okay, all right, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
It's smart on his behalf, though, to just if that's
the question, you know, what are you gonna do to
get in prison? And then instantly hit the the goodwill
things you did before, you.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Know, like, that's that's fair.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, I gotta get the job done.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Dude. That would have been awesome. That'd have been a
great answer.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Actually, he was, you know what, I didn't know what
to expect. I didn't know he's been in there a
long time at this point. I didn't know if we
were gonna get a beaten down. You know, he's sick,
you know, he's he's a special treatment facility for cancer
right now. So I didn't know what we'd get or
(21:06):
if we get a guy that was hopeful, energeticche and
just kind of felt like the day is coming soon
when when he's gonna get released. I was happy I
got the opportunity to ask him if he's on the
Epstein list. That was good. We got that out of
the way.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
That was hilarious. I don't even know who Epstein is.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
All he knows is that that name is in the
news and it's not good for Trump. That's all he knew.
It is not good, sir, oh man, what a what
a day?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Though?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
He's man, it sucked because like the call just abruptly ends,
right yeah, and then I'm like, well, dang. I was
enjoying talking to him, like I need more time, Like
where'd you go? Like I just I was left wanting more.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Well, in fifteen years, you got to send alarm fifteen
years from now he's out.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You gotta be like, Joe, you're my guy. We talked,
let's talk for longer, yep, do this.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I did email him after and I was like, hey, man,
you need to call in and you want to go
back on laugh with me. You let me know you
are back, Like that was that I didn't get enough,
you know.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
I like when you're like, you know, we find out
he's remarried or whatever, and it's like.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That's incredible. You fell in love in prison. He's just like, yeah,
it happens.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
You don't know where it's gonna with. Love's gonna hit you.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Yeah, sir, we don't know what happens in there. We'll
tell us.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I missed it that his his new husband was was
released from prison and then immediately deported, Like I must
have missed that whole thing. So then I go back
after and I'm reading about it. Sure enough, it's he's
in Mexico and he's doing the work for Joe. He's
trying to get Joe pardon and get the word out.
(23:02):
And then and Joe I've even seen. He's willing. He's
like Trump doesn't want bad people in America anymore. Great,
I'll buy my own ticket. I'm heading to Mexico. Like
he's ready to go.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, pardon me, and I'm out. I'm out.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Yeah, Yeah, he's uh, he's he's pretty honest about it,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
He is he is. I liked it. I liked it.
It makes me want to check out his book. He's
an interesting guy.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah like that one. Oh so what I was saying
about the book is, uh, he he wrote it while
he was in prison, and he used his thirty minutes
of computer time a day in order to write the book.
So it was quite the process.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
But that's uh, at least that's what you know. He said.
So he he has. Yeah, so he's got a book out.
I don't know anything about it other than he's got
a book and he used his thirty minutes a day
to write it. That's all I know.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
That's that's the info. You're gathered this book all you know.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
That's all I know. But we should learn more about it.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
For when we have the follow up interview years.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
In fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yes, I like it. I like it. Oh yeah, you
I need to know. Did you not hit up Carol
Baskins Instagram and.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Just shoot a message and be like, hey, I got
this podcast if you would like to come on.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
You know what, that's a hell of an idea. That's
a hell of an idea.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
That's what I bring to the table here.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I think I think I should have you know what,
and you know what's great about Carol, She's gonna have
more time. Oh yeah, and right, so yeah, you know what,
great idea, cop I am going to hit up Carol
Baskin and uh now that's that's kind of my goal
is to care.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Going down here, you know, taking on the world. Yep,
one one Netflix star at a time.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
That's right awesome. Can you imagine thirty four million people
watching your watching your show your life in like the
first ten days of a release about it?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Like, that's insane, that would be crazy. I wouldn't I
would crumble. I would curl into a ball and never
come out of my house again.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Like how many hundreds of millions by now have seen
this story and everything they know about you is this?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It is wild, It really is.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I can't even think like that. I can't even think
that big. That's crazy. Gosh, we got to get.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
A Netflix show, we really do. What what would we
call it?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
We'll figure it out. Just to dudes, all right, that's
that about. I don't know two dudes.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
All they do is talk about the Tiger King.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
All right, we'll come up with a better Now.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
That these shows. I didn't realize.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, it turns out they put a lot
of work in the TV shows, like they don't just
come up with it on the fly, burn a podcast.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I thought it just kind of happened. I was I
was wrong. Today's the day I learned, folks, I got smarter.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Uh Joe exoticofficial dot com. If anyone listening wants to
find out more information about him, or even to donate,
because he's he's using the money that he raises from
the website to help with his own expenses inside and
then also to help with awareness, to help get that pardon.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Cool? Do you hate that book on there?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I think you can.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Can you get an autographed book on there? Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I highly doubt it.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, you have to smuggle it in, sign us, smuggle
it out.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
It's the whole process. If you know a guy I
don't know, maybe maybe find a guy I don't know.
There's always that guy inside that could just get things.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
This is true.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Maybe there's a guy that can bring in books, get
them signed, get them out.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
You know, I got we gotta find out about it.
We gotta figure out how to do this. If he's
not doing this, just.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Sink how much money he can make if he could
actually figure that out. Because you're lawyers, everybody like you're
gonna buy the book, right, I'm probably gonna buy the book.
If that's the case, I gotta I gotta check it out.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
We're all in now, all right.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Final thoughts on The Tiger King Joe Zac on Laugh
with Me.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I freaking loved it. I did not know what to expect.
I think I told you. I was very frightened when
I first saw load onto my phone. It was awesome.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I kind of want to go rewatch the Tiger King.
I want to see how that goes down. Gotta see
him get not pardoned, Gotta see him putting in his time,
get out, go to Mexico, buy some sort of weird
gold card for money that he doesn't have, and then
get back.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I want to see how all that works out. I'm
invested now, I'm invested. There you go.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Joe's got a new fan in Kyle all from his
call in on Laugh with Me. I I do don't.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I don't know. It's like a curiosity.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Okay, not all right, that's fair, you know, I didn't.
I don't think I fully understood that the the video
coverage was from a mostly footage that he was having
filmed that Netflix purchased or the producer's purchased, and then
did the interviews and testimonials at things after he's in prison.
(28:26):
I don't think I when I watched it, I understood
all that, and I don't think I grasped that even after.
But then when he's talking about it, we'll shoot and
I go back and watch, like the first couple of episodes,
I'm like, Okay, this is like a whole different spin
on it now, knowing that all these people are talking
about him, knowing that he's in prison right now.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah. Yeah, I never thought about that either until he
said that. It's like, what some thing you got to
think about? Who who did he put in charge of
his estate? And that person obviously signed something to just
release all his stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
They sure did.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
It's not good. It's a mess.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Well, that's that's the South. That's the South, baby, you know,
that's the South.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
That's what we're doing in the South. Eric knows about that.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Eric, Yeah, he knows all about that. He's uh, he's
as far north as you can get right now.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Though.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
What Yeah, He's like vacationing in like North Dakota or something.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Oh damn, that's yeah, that's the tip of the tip
of the earth there.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, so all right, well, thanks for calling in and
giving us your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, thanks for calling Get more, get that, Carroll Baskin. Yeah,
I'll do the recap. I'll do the recap. I'll answer
the phone.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
It'll be great, awesome. I'm I'll work on it right now,
all right, see it later. But yeah, that's uh, that's Kyle,
and uh, he's not a fan necessarily a Joe exotic,
but he is certainly very intrigued. Now, I did just
brought up that Eric is on vacation. So Eric, you know,
(30:06):
he's been on the show many a times, as often
as just a couple of episodes ago, and he's he's
in like North Dakota or something like that. But anyway,
Eric is called in. He left me a voice memo.
I have not listened to it yet, so I have
no idea what he's gonna say, but we're gonna listen
(30:28):
to it right now and just see how vacation is going.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
Hey, Jo, this is this is audiologue number one of
my grand tour of.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Really two states.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
But all the states.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
Tonight, I'm in Fargo, North Dakota, and you might be asking,
where is Fargo.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Well, it's way fucking.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
North, Like it's all the way north, and don't give
you it with the movie. The movie happened in Minnesota.
There are no people getting wood chippard in Fargo. Spoiler
alert for a movie that was twenty years ago. So
tonight I proceeded to go to a bar where I
(31:20):
played blackjack, and you might be.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Asking yourself, hey, how does one.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Go to a bar and play blackjack?
Speaker 7 (31:29):
Well, in North Dakota, you can play blackjack at a bar.
The bar just can't run the blackjack table. The blackjack
tables run by a charity, whether it's Boys and Girls
Club of America or it's you know, the Salvation Army.
Somebody's running that blackjack table and collecting the profits, and
(31:50):
the bar is just selling you the drinks. So in
some ways, in retrospect, when I look back at tonight's actions,
I'm very charitable because I proceeded to set down one
hundred dollars on their fine black check table, and I
(32:10):
proceeded to leave with none of that money. Which it's
a bad it's a bad.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Omen for a couple of for a couple of reasons.
Number one, you never want to start a vacation. I mean,
this is going to be the first of perhaps twelve
travelogs that I'm going to be shared with you, and
I do not want to start with a loss. And
(32:39):
number two, how can I have any confidence gambling after
this point if I haven't won?
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Because you know, as much as we talk about the
strategy of gambling, winning is so much better than losing,
and especially when you're at.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
These tables where perhaps you have lost.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Uh you know what, what what fountain of luck is the.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
That just you have that one gambler there that's.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Just they're too drunk to play, or they're too dope
to play, and they just happened to always at that
Ace nine or that you know, not even the perfect blackjack,
they just happened to like just luck into it. So
at the table tonight, I had that, I had that
(33:41):
that that bimbo himbo guy sitting all in the left,
he's playing two hands at a time, He's not paying
attention at all.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
He's constantly happened to be reprimanded by the dealer to
just pay attention, just to wave his hand over his
pair of faceguards. Yet this guy is just raking it in.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
Meanwhile, you're truly playing by the book, probably maybe, but
playing you.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Know, very straightforward. Nothing, can't can't catch a card.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
To save my life, drinking, you know, Budweiser after Budweiser,
trying to rejuvenate that luck and nothing. But there's for
a good cause, so you know, perhaps there is something
to that question when he's heavy on my mind though,
(34:49):
am I going to be able to get up tomorrow
morning to spend the day with my family and then
go to a casino a bar in North Dakota and
do it again?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Chances seem pretty likely. Well, do you know how it goes?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
There? You go Eric's first trouble log on vacation and
he's losing his ass at the blackjack table at bars.
Which is an interesting situation that you can just walk
into a bar in North Dakota and be able to
grab a seat at the table and have them sponsored
(35:37):
by local organization. It's kind of like so like here
in Omaha over Fourth of July, you had fireworks tents everywhere.
You know, everybody's selling fireworks. You had to pick which
one you want to go to not based on the
deals that they were offering, you know, by eighteen or
buy one, get eighteen free or whatever it is. No,
(35:58):
this was like go to this tent because it supports
the local library, or go to this tent and it
supports the Little League team that plays down the street.
Like it's just stuff like that. It'd be crazy if
you walked up to a bar in North Dakota and
you walk up to the one of the tables and
it's like, hey, all winnings or all losses in your case,
(36:21):
Eric go towards fixing kids' faces. Courtesy of Joe Exotic
the Tiger King, Like, don't you think that would be
cool that you knew even if you lost, even if
everything that the house won that night went back to
fixing kids' faces, that'd be pretty neat. That'd be pretty neat,
(36:49):
all right, Well, thanks Kyle, Thanks Eric, and thank you
Joe Zada for calling in earlier in the week. This
is the Friday Happy Hour. Enjoy your weekend.
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