July 22, 2025 • 58 mins
We were in the room when it all went down.
Azzi Fudd’s coming out moment. Paige Bueckers showing up and shaking the room. The Stud Budz livestreaming a WNBA revolution in real time. And the players revealing their “Pay Us What You Owe Us” protest shirts — with the broadcast cutting away like nothing happened.
In this episode of Let Her Shoot, we bring you the raw, unfiltered recap from the ground at WNBA All-Star weekend.
💥 What really happened at Azzi’s party
👕 Why the CBA protest mattered — and what the players want
🎮 Stud Budz as the new media sensation
If you weren’t there — we got you.
If you were — you already know.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Have you recovered yet?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
No what I was saying this when you were getting
the water.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
I slept in my car while my mom was getting
her cataracts done. Today, I'm a way better mood than
I was last time we recorded, but still grumpy.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I think, well, I think you need to get over it.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I need to get over my grump.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I think you need to get over your grump.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Oh okay, I see you think this is like makes
you endearing to our viewers, so they just give me
a hard time.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Okay, I do, I got it. I do. I like
being called the funny one.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I like you called you're not You're not the funny one.
I think we can.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I think you're in denial about that. Actually, I think
people think I'm funny, and I think you hate.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
That your own partner doesn't think you're funny. Okay, Okay,
we gotta go. We gotta get into this because the
last time we got one troll that gave me a
complex about us talking about our personal life, and he
was like, oh it took them, took them eighteen minutes
and thirty seconds to get in listen here, fucking Joe troll.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Can you don't want to know anything? About us.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
You just want us to spit out little facts about
your favorite women's sports like a fucking like a marionette,
just like a little like a Teddy Ruckspin doll, and
they just have like facts. No, that's not what voodoo
dolls do. Voodoo dolls don't spit out facts. Just give
me the backs and the scores.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
That's no fun. We're not going to be doing that. Actually.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Meanwhile, you just go to ESPN or the score app
or a myriad of other places for those boring ass
ways to deliver the content.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Who wants that?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Or you can just push fast forward? How about that?
Just push fast forward.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I'm not hotter, A'm i hotter.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I get anything I want. This is my world.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I make big moves in my big hus since I
take that I was going I made a big deal.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
All right, welcome too.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Let her shoot fro we were on the road, I believe. Actually,
and I've thought this before, of course because it's in
the end, but we are actually the only podcast that
is doing this the way we want it to be done.
We're the only sports media company in the women's side
doing what how we wanted to be done.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
We are asking questions that make our trolls say, ooh,
that's cringe.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Ooh.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I did ask them, making the athlete say, bro, that's
not a real question.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Disrespect for the athletes, the reasons to stay locked.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
In respect for ourselves.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
We got Sarah Chavnik here, a two time Emmy Award
winning producer, also.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
A new talent. She got to parlay with her talent
talent hat on it in Indianapolis. She was rolling.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Around feeling feeling herself Christy Craig, zero time Emmy Award
winning talent. I think also though Sarah, I should get
some producer credits.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
We'll talk about it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I do a lot of work that's not talent.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Did you write this rundown?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I set you these things verbatim via text, and I
went back to the text to see them.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
All you did was transpose.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
That's not all I did. I also put you know for.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
The copy and pasted intro and outro. No'm we need
to give the menu today on our show. It's really
a simple show. We're just gonna talk about what our
time was in Indianapolis for what I think is going
to be a seminal and pivotal moment.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I think Sara does too for the WNBA and women's
sports as a whole. We got, we had a time.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
We just ingested at all, and we're gonna tell you
everything we saw, everything we learned. We're gonna give you
some tea, our own personal anecdotes. Me and Sarah were
like terrified of getting bullied by Dja Carrington, who looks
so fucking good in person, but she also wore sandglasses,
so you wonder if she takes them off, whether there's
lasers coming out of there. Anyway, We'll bring you along
(03:57):
for the ride, Sarah.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Is your favorite part of this weekend? I have mine
and I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
What yours was. My favorite part was the Paisy.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Page page asy, like the hardest, like no one can
dispute launch right, like the that is my girlfriend, she I.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Am her, she is mine.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
We see the kissing, we see the hand holding, the
arms wrapped around, we see the hand on the leg,
we see the Yukon team being.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Like Chris Cross will make you jump jump literally. When
we're gonna get we'll get to all that. But it
was definitely the we can't hide the Paisy thing anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
There's no like anybody who's in our comments being like, well,
you don't know they could we do know?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, we do.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I think yeah, I mean I think they finally put
the wrap on that which you know on Was it
Thursday night at the Welcome or Wedursday night?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Wednesday night?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
No, Thursday night? What it was? Thursday night?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
What it was?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Thursday night? Okay, so Thursday night at the Orange Carpet,
our girl Mattie Hoops with the scoop of the scoop
of the century on the world's worst kept secret.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
By the way, by the way, by the way, by
the way.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Scratch that there's a difference between Maddie Hoops and Iso Maddie. Yeah,
and Iso Maddie is different than Maddie Hoops. And Maddie
Hoops is who we saw at the party. So I
was giving Maddie Hoops all this love, but it's actually
Iso Maddie who does the Wags content but also shout
out to Iso Maddie and shout out to Maddie Hoops.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Iso Maddie got the scoop of the century on the
Orange Carpet for Wag talk, which is like, if anyone
hasn't seen what Iso Maddi does. She does like a
series of asking the Wags essentially a pop quiz on
their partner, on their on their athlete partner. And this
athlete partner she got was Paige Becker's, and she said,
(05:57):
how well do you know your d one girlfriend? She
goes the whole thing page, gets all the questions right,
of course, like a good girlfriend. And at the end
they said girlfriend reveal and she said Aisy Fudd and
the world said, gasp, pretend to be shocked because we
all knew this. I mean, that's not.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
There's some people in the Bible Belt that were shocked
by it.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I mean, welcome to those people who just pulled their
head out of the sand. I do hope they can
breathe better now.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I'm just glad that we is done right, Like, we
don't have to.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Like question everything, fund the restaurant that they go to.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
We don't have to be like, well as he's around
a lot of the team, we don't have to do
any of that. Of course she's around, that's your girlfriend. Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Former teammate is done.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
The former teammate narrative is cooked.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It's cooked, kind of like I cooked in the wild,
getting us some goddamn guests.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I feel like you're bragging about yourself through this episode
might get a little exhausting. Just FYI, you didn't ask
me my favorite part of the weekend, which is fine,
but because I wasn't expecting you to, because that's what
you do.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, I mean this was your first time ever sort
of covering women's hoops, which I think is fascinating because
it's a totally different culture, totally what stuck out to you?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I really you know, see this is a different question
because this isn't my favorite part of the weekend. So
all I answers using two parts. It's fine, you know,
it's fine. This is talent being talent, change being talent,
duct tape talent over there, just changing and doing whatever
you feel like. So the answer your question to me.
On the producer side, you know, we are really kind
(07:35):
of like trapped behind the scenes. You know, we're wearing
all black to blend into the background so that people
don't see us, which is.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Oh wait, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Wearing all black on a shoot? Yeah what yeah, why
to blend into the background.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
What do you mean blend into the background.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, because like when you're a producer on a on
a broad cast or on a shoot, like if you
get seen on cam, if you sneak on camera, you
don't want to look like talent. You don't want to
look like you're the person that, like, you know, you're
sneaking into the background. Your crew, crew got it is offen.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
They treat off, They treat you off real foul.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, exactly, we're in the back. Well what we eat?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You have to wear a certain thing, like this yellow sweatshirt.
They would be out, they'd be like.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
No, yeah, it was weird. It was weird being the
person that like got invited to parties and like god,
invited to you know, two events and talk to people
and shake hands. Like that's a weird place for me
to be, because that's not usually producers are usually the
ones just following around and going to bed at nine
(08:46):
pm because we've got to be up at to set
up location shoots the next morning at six o'clock. So
that was a unique experience for me, but even cooler
than that was. Actually another part about being a producer
is you're never wrecked because no one knows what a
producer looks like or who the producer is, so like
you have to really like lead with your resume every
(09:07):
time you meet someone or you know not and then
you just hope that they believe you and what you're saying.
But what was a really cool experience for me and
kind of a little bit mind boggling, was people on
the street or at events or at parties coming up
to us and saying, Wow, I'm a huge fan of
you guys. I watch your podcast and I'm a huge
(09:31):
fan of what you guys are doing. I'm a huge
fan of the community you're building. And that was my
favorite part of the weekend. That was the coolest thing
to me was to see people, people who are watching
this right now come up to us and shake our hands.
Because that's what I want. I want people to feel
like they can come up to us and shoot the
(09:52):
shit about sports anytime they want.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, that was super dope. It's cool. It's very humbling.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It's very humbling for people to be like, like, I
think one of the I love the fans and I
will always be and I think we will always be
fan first. And there's a lot of places that are
very that have their quote unquote talent and their podcast
hosts or their former athletes that are the lead part
of the brand that they're like untouchable, Like I don't
feel like I could come up to Megan Rapino and
(10:21):
be like, hey, just wanted to say like.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
At all, Hey, what'd you think of that?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
No, yeah, and like chatting and you know the fact
that that was something that that they felt comfortable doing
was dope. But I also thought it was really cool
that like a guy from Adweek was like your daily
w how come we need to do a feature on you?
And we need to see what you're up to? You
(10:47):
guys are gonna explode. And I really was shocked. I
was shocked at that, and this obviously I thought on
a non art stuff manner. The thing that I also
loved a lot was just the stud bud stream.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
How do we want to get into this?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
So do you want to just kind of go chronologically
with time takeaways?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Okay, let's go chronologically.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Let's first and foremost talk about how you got here? Right.
So I'm on the plane. So I'm on the plane right,
travel from to Indy Vegas.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
First NBA Summer League m NBA. And by the way,
m NBA is catching on folks. People are saying m NBA,
which I love anyway. So I'm traveling from m NBA
Summer League to All Star weekend for an indie and
I get a text from someone who I'd worked with
before at Voldemort Stool, and she was like, Hey, I
(11:49):
don't have anybody that's going to be in Indie and
I've got these athletes that they're pitching.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Do you want any of them?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
So I send it to the group chat, Hey, guys,
what do you think? And one of them was KK
Arnold as teammate Yukon Star Yukon Yukon sort of six
man defensive but very funny, has a big TikTok following,
and just is gonna be on another team, this team
again and I think it's prime to repeat. So I
(12:18):
was like, oh man, it would be so dope if
if you Sarah could do the podcast with me live there,
and she's like, basically like lock it up, lock it
up is done kind of a thing. Just send me,
you know, just a little emails that I can just
make sure to like close the loop with the people
who are doing it.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
And then turns out KK disappeared into the mist.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
She was busy.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Girls like just sand in between our fingers.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
But anyway, you got the chance to see the three
Point Contest live and the All Star Game live for
the first time ever. Actually it was my first time
live seeing that too. I've never been live to a
women's We did, we did.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
We didn't the Skills comp because we actually got pulled
into renamed Montgomery's live stream, but.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Also my purse got there were people, okay, so going
in you couldn't.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay, but I.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Also got We also missed the Skills Challenge because of
the purse scenario.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Okay, let's go back.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Oh yes, ok so she disappears into the mist and
we end up deciding or we're going to link up
with this agent who I know. There's an unrivaled event
that's going on, unrivaled with three on three tournament.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
They have like sort of I don't actually know what
it was.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
It was almost a fan experience and they had some
of the unrivaled athletes stop through do Q and A
and then sign autographs and take photos and then for us,
we got an opportunity to do a little.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Five minute one on one with them and then Sarah okay,
so let's just start there. How was that for you?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
That was? Yes, So we we met up with Britneykes,
Slim Slim Slim.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
And if you don't know who Slim is, she's the
one that was went super viral because she was walking
around during the All Star Game with the pay us
signs and dancing to Glorilla.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah she was. She was great and we knew that
was another cool moment as we introduced ourselves and she said, oh,
I know who you guys are, which was kind of crazy,
wild wild, and we had a great time with her.
We had a great little interview with her. She came
for Ray Burrell's neck, and then the next day we
(14:33):
had Ray Burrell respond, which was even more fun. She
kind of defended herself, but not really.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Raise a sweet girl. She didn't want any super sweet girl.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And I think, you know, all this is kind of
just a domino effect that took us one place to another,
to another to another, which you know, all of this
eventually led to us going to Azy Fud's coming out
party on Friday night after Skills Challenge. We could talk
about the Skills Challenge for a minute. Super fun environment
(15:06):
we didn't see again. We came in right at the
end of the Skills Challenge, which Tasha Cloud won, which
is awesome for her. I'm so glad to see that
for her, and I think there were a lot of
people who were super glad, you know, that she got
that recognition. Three point contest, which was a blast to watch.
I really enjoyed though, watching the most watching the teammates,
(15:28):
the fans, or I mean not the fans, I mean
they were fans of their teammates in this moment, but
the teammates of the players just losing their shit on
the court. You know, Tasha Cloud was behind Sabrina the
whole time, just pumping her up just like it was
like ultimate hype man energy. And I think that was
(15:50):
honestly the best part of this weekend was how watching
the community of the WNBA really just the closeness, the
tight knit niss of this the way they all supported
each other through the weekend, through literally all of it,
through uh the actual on the court, through the parties,
(16:11):
through the you know, CBA stuff that was going on,
which we'll talk about later too. It was just this
really cool dynamic to see the way these players just
really bonded together and watching them just kind of be
themselves out in the open, which we got to see
because of the step buds.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Can I talk about the can I talk about the
purse thing really fast?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That kept us from getting there on time?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Because I just saw this on social today.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Don't don't go, don't go. Ba.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
There's a reason, bitch that I'm telling this to the people. Okay,
I saw this online and I was like, I can
relate to this. So okay, I don't know if you
know this, Sarah, but you can't bring your person any
bigger than like basically an envelope. I know.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I watched you try to stuff it into the little
box for like twenty minutes while I was telling you
it's not gonna fit. It's not gonna fit. It's not
gonna fit. And then who was right? Continue bos.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Bous?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Stuff it into the box is crazy? Over stuffed it
into the box is crazy?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Can you continue anyway?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
So you have to go across the street to the
high and drop your bag off, and they.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Only have cash.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
And again it was like the Sisterhood where people who
did have cash because they also didn't have change.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Were like, okay, I have twenty dollars.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Three other women I got you just either venmo me
or don't. But I saw this. I went through the
I tried to stuff it in as you said, Sarah,
And the guy was like, nah, you're not doing it.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
And I was like, y media, and he's like, you are.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I love your podcast, but you I can't be making
exceptions for you, girl. You gotta go in So anyway,
I saw when I was walking out this and then
I saw a whole TikTok video this morning. People were
just abandoning their luxury purses.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
They were just throwing them in the trash.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I saw a seventeen dollars YSL purse in the trash.
I was like, you got me real fucked up for
the for the All Star Skills Challenge. No, ma'am, No, ma'am,
it's going to the Highatta across the street.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I did leave you at security.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, and guess what. Guess who the real rider die was? Juju.
Juju stayed with me. He went and dropped the purse off.
You were nowhere the fuck to be found.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
To be fair, you had Juju's ticket and I had
my own on your phone. That I had my own,
that's not true. That's actually not true. I transferred the
ticket to his phone, so he had it on his phone.
I only missed the skills contest at this point, I
was wanting to see the three pointer because w NBA
Friday Night only an hour long. It's only an hour Long's.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, that part was wild.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Wein Sabrina was gonna win, win it too. Sabrina was
just so obviously she had thirty something points in the skills,
I mean in the three point contest. She's I just
came away on that event being like, man, this would
have been so lit if Caitlin was healthy, it would
been so insane.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
It was a bummer. We saw I mean, we saw
her enter the arena, We saw her cur Oh my god,
please continue.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Anyway, we went to the party. We went to the party.
Then we didn't know we were going to go. I
wasn't sure. You weren't sure.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
And it's the asy fud fud around and find out
podcast release party, which.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I don't know best you've ever been name for a podcast.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
It is, it is, but I don't know if you've
ever been to like a podcast release party. I thought
it was gonna be quite lame. It was not pod
It's a podcast release party for a player who's not
even in the w NBA college with the with the
college player with a performer the lead performer who's also.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Not in the w NBA, who's a college player in
fla j.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, and that was that was a cool experience getting
to why it was like a little private concert. We
got a little private flage a concert for like, you know,
a thousand people, which was super cool.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I don't even think it. I think it was less
maybe yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, a couple hundred. That a shot there was cool
real quick, because your stream of consciousness is all over
the place, and I know that's how my brain works,
I know, and it's kind of driving me nuts.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well, I was just going to say that it was
cool when we walked into the party that As was
out with everybody. She was like in the VIP.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
She was. She really is the people's princess. She was
just taking photos, she was chatting, and I.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Was she looked fantastic. Did you see, by the way,
real quick, speaking of people's princess, did you see the
picture of Asy that I sent you earlier, like holding
a baby?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Like like she literally she's out there like legitimately kissing babies.
Someone just handed their four week old baby to Aisy Fudd.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Didn't you just give me a hard time about change?
Like literally going all over the place. And now we're
talking about something that didn't even happen during all these.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
People it did.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It happened yesterday anyway. So we're at Easy Fudd's coming
out party. It was literally Aisy Fud's coming out party
because it was the night after the asy Fud, you know,
coming out.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
So we go there.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
It's her, it's her launch for her podcast, and and
at first it's just Asy there and then like little
by little, we see people trickling in. We see who
ell did we see come in?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
We saw.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Angel Reaves come in.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
We saw we saw d and her boyfriend who's in
the NBA. She took some photos. Well, they took photos.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Together at the actual All Star weekend and they were grinding.
They came together, they were grinding on each other and
then they took photos together. I don't know what boyfriend girlfriend.
I don't know if they're exclusive, but he's pulling her
for a chat. He's pulled her friend chat.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Melissa and Djona come in, which was quite possibly one
of the funnier interactions we had of the night because.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
They walk up.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
They first of all, I've never felt shorter in a room.
I've never felt more like I'm crawling on the floor
than in a room full of w NBA players and
they're either college teammates or their NBA boyfriends. I could
not have felt smaller to the ground, which was hard
(23:03):
because it got pretty packed there for a bit and.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Then hard to see, hard, hard to maneuver.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I was like, I'm lost. I was just looking for
Juju in the crowd to see if we could find him,
because that was the only way I could find you
because you were too small as well. Anyway, we see
Dja and Melyssa come in and at one point they're
like trying to get through to the to the like
roped off VIP to VIP, which is where we were.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah yeah, And so.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
They're trying to get in and we're kind of like
standing near the entrance, and I'm not joking. Dj A
just kind of like walks up towards us and just
like stands directly in front of us, like.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Kind I just go just like part the seas just
move does had no.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
She just like takes one look at us and we
both just shriek back into the wall, move away as
you were.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
To stay out of here and just go. I was terrified.
She looks incredible though, by the way, incredible.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, she's perfect. She drags Melissa around behind her, which
I love, like a little puppy she does.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Like that little thing that they put on the purses.
What's those little things called? They're like Japanese what you
know what those are?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
No, like Tamagotchi's.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, but they're not. They're like a new thing. Gen
Z knows what they are.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Oh, they're like the luless Yeah, yes, or whatever. I
have no idea what it's called. I could hear Sam
somewhere in the background screaming the name to me Lea
boo boo. She literally just yelled it to me, the
boo boo. We see. We saw HVL come in, which.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
With Chalin sugs, which we immediately just ducked, dun ducked.
I'm not ready. I don't think for seeing the peace
people that I speak about trash talk. You know, I
didn't trash talk her. I like HVL. I wanted her
to succeed.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I just to interact with her.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
At a party, we talked to some people who were
with some college athletes. When the HVL news jumped off,
which I will not say who they are, but they.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Were, but no, we're not naming the names.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
But big player, very premiere, very like gonna be a
one top top top ten pick, top five pick uh
in the next year's draft. And so apparently when they
were with her when that news came out, we got
aggregated and they were like, I mean, but are they all?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
We also saw a couple of players, again not going
to name names, who I don't did not know we're
boot up with each other. That was a surprise. And
again that was.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Teammates tamates on a team and I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I mean, I knew one of them was gay just
by looking, but didn't they.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Knew both of them were gay. I knew both of
them were gay. Yes, really you did? Yes? Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
And no this is not, by the way, this is
not the couple that also got out of this weekend in.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And Sonia and Marina.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
This is outside of that. Outside of there was a
couple outings this weekend. There was Gabby and Marine apparently
also got outed on the stud buds.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
But there are the step buds already knew that.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Well, yeah, I mean, I don't think you can out
someone who is already like a living together, engaged couple.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
We saw the first Paisy public kiss.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
That was exciting. That was actually a really fun moment.
I saw it, You didn't because your back was turned
and I was trying to get your attention, but I
didn't want to be like super obvious about it. I
see Asy just like standing over kind of at the
edge of the VIP area. She's like maybe like a
couple feet from us, and she's like looking at the door,
and I hap to you and I said, Page is
about to walk in, and he said, how do you know?
(27:04):
And we turned around. Page comes running in the door
with KK with there was there was a bunch of the.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Busiest woman was there, Yeah, busiest.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Women in America, KK, Sarah, Sarah Strong, Yeah, Jane l
Alfie was there. It was like the probably pretty much
the whole Yukon team. So Page runs up and like
kind of like picks Asy up. And the coolest moment
was all of the Yukon players just like huddling around them,
(27:35):
jumping up and down, hyping them up, like so excited
that they've now finally like come out and embraced this.
And this was like the first Paige public public paysy
boes that, you know, and so Paige. You know, it
was cute. They were just kind of like locked in
on each other and they went to dancing and taking
(27:57):
pictures with their teammates and it was just a really
cute little moment and it just made me feel really
happy for them, you know, like this was this was
literally easy Fugs coming out party. I don't even I
still don't even know what the podcast is about.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
She said anything she wants it to be anything it wants.
I saw somebody I forget. Maybe it was either like
we saw Hannah Hidalgo and Sonya Sitron there and there
was a lot I think there was like somebody that
was coming in at the same time as No, you
know what it was.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
It was Keiki Keeky was coming.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
In at the same time as Sarah's strong and everyone
was just swarming around Keki and Sarah was like, I
need to go this way, get me the fuck out
of this. I can just tell that Sarah if she
doesn't like something, her facial expressions are gold.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I mean, to be fair, there was a lot of
drinking going on at this party. I'm not saying Sarah
she's underage. I didn't see Sarah drinking.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
She looked very sober to me, though by the way
she looked, she looked like she was she I.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Think that may have been why she looks so bored,
because everyone else was. I mean, they ran out of
alcohol at one am. We you were so confident in
the amount of alcohol that was being consumed by Team
Fee that you put a bet on Team Clark while
we were still at the bar.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
And yes, you lost to forty seven am.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I was like, yeah, well, these girls are fucked up.
We saw angels standing on the table dancing. We had
at up in there. I mean, it was every single
member of Team Fee that was God side except for Fee.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Stud buds came in there.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
They're shaking their ass or dropping it low. You got
a flage in there. She's on Team Fee, but she's
I mean, it was just very hype. It gave very
much like college warehouse vibes.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Oh, it was absolutely college warehouse. This address isn't on
a map, it's invite only. You gotta get gotta get
the Facebook like remember those Facebook party groups that you
would get like in, and it was like a private invite.
It's probably dating, ye, but you know we're so yeah,
(30:10):
that's what it felt like though, it felt like like
entertainment provided by like also within the club.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I just thought it was cool, and I said this
a little bit earlier, just to put the exclamation mark
on it, that the two biggest stars or the party
of the weekend, and it really was. I know, the
Diplo party was jumping and you know the which is
a sports illustrated party, but that that was the party
of the weekend because everybody went, and it wasn't the
(30:39):
day after the game, it was in the day of
the game. It was the day of the three point contest,
so you know, everybody was sort of out and ready.
And that was a party hosted by a player who
hadn't even gotten into the w NBA yet, and the
performance Act has not gotten into the w NBA yet either,
So that just shows you it's all almost like Paisy
(31:01):
Paisy Asy is having the sort of run that Paige
did last year, which is very very cool. It'd be
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Speaker 1 (31:42):
I want to talk about the biggest gossip breaking of
the week. Did not come from any reporters, did not
come from anybody but the step Buds, who was their
seventy two hour live stream I read yesterday was averaging
a one hundred and eighty thousand viewers.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Really, I thought when we would be in the stream
because we were watching it, everybody was watching it.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
When we went to the Unrivaled event, they had it
on their big screen.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
They were just watching them the whole time. That was
just like part of the entertainment, and we would watch
when we weren't doing stuff. But I remember seeing like
thirty seven thousand on it or ten thousand on it.
Maybe it's just in terms of how many.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Maybe it was one hundred days in total, Yeah, but
maybe it was like maybe they were averaging a day.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
So what's the thing that they broke that you find
found to be the most impactful.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
They outed Sanaia and Marina.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
We didn't really out them. They kind of out of themselves.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
On the stream, which they outed themselves on the stream.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
They did, they did, they did, they had well.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
First of all, let's just talk about the Stud Buds
stream in general, because they were the highlight of the
weekend on social media. Yeah, and I think that they
the attention that they brought to this event had people
locked in between game time right like. It wasn't as
if people were only tuning in for a little bit
(33:13):
of pregame for the actual game, for a little bit
of postgame maybe if they really wanted to hear a breakdown,
and then they were then TV off, mind off, they've
forgotten about it. The Stud Buds kept people who were
not there, who did not have tickets, who did not
get invited to these parties. They brought them in on
everything that they did. For those who don't know the
(33:36):
Stud Buds, Courtney Williams and Tea Hiding of the of
the Minnesota Bank. Courtney was playing in the All Star
but Tea just came along with her. I still can't
figure if their roommates not roommates, just best friends anyway,
so they bring the fans along. They had promised a
(33:57):
seventy two hour live stream on their Twitch and they delivered.
They went. I mean they were live for everything, through practices,
through dinner, through lunch, through parties.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
They were saying where they were at too. They were like,
we're at Connors right now, weren't there?
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, I was like, we should pull up, We're getting
stopped by fans.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
They were.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
They were pulling people in for like lat you know,
they were they had Everyone was on the stream. Page
was on the stream, Caitlin was on the stream. Uh,
the commissioner, Sabrine stream Sabrina. Although Sabrina saw the camera
and immediately dipped out because she wanted she wanted nothing.
She hadn't seen what have been happening. At that point,
we had Megan Rappino asking live on the stream if
(34:44):
Courtney has ever been strapped, which was an awkward and
terribly uncomfortable question to watch. And I don't think I've
ever been more uncomfortable watching something in my life than
that interaction because Courtney had no idea what she was
talking about.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Well because in basketball, which Megan Rapino clearly knows nothing
about getting strapped, which.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Is funny because she's married to the goat.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, it's like that's when somebody puts you in a
seatbelt and locks you down and plays such a lead
defense on you that you are strapped. You just got strapped,
And Meghan Rapino's thinking it means strap ons, And you
know me, I have almost no boundaries.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
On what I will ask, and I don't think I
would ask that.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I hope to God that you don't, because if you do,
I'm gonna turn the camera off. That's my skin was
like I was crawling out of my skin watching that,
almost as much as I was crawling out of my
skin watching you have the most the world's most awkward
interview with a player that we're just gonna code name
because I don't think it's fair to her to put
(35:52):
her on blast about this really awkward interview. But it
was the world's most awkward interview.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Asian didn't think it was that bad.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Adrian wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
It was really bad. It was it was giving I
don't do this.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Let's give her a name. Let's call her. Let's call
her Stacy.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
All right, let's call her Stacy.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
So we were gonna meet up with Stacy, and everybody
was like, it's gonna happen. It's gonna be so funny.
She's so lighthearted. You know, she's one of the funniest
players in the league.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
And the reason why that was so important is we
were doing we were there doing a series kind of
a little spin off of Let Her Shoot, called Shooting
the Ship with you know players. We did Britney Sykes,
we did uh Ray Burrell, we did the stud Buds,
we did Jada Williams, we did Ari McDonald. So we
(36:48):
had a couple of these and we thought that Stacy
was gonna was gonna be like the top one of
the best ones that we were gonna get. Yeah, we
we thought that this was good. This was the one
that we were the most like, we have to like
go to her schedule more than stud Bucks. We were like,
we have to find well. We waited outside the stadium
(37:08):
for her for like an hour outside the arena after
the three point contests, and.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
We're just like workshopping questions, workshopping questions, and then her
energy in person was just like so disinterested, so bored,
but also like shy was giving shy like very quiet,
very soft spoken, and she's pulling at her pants. She's
looking over at her crew. I'm getting the like the
(37:36):
radio row hand of the watch like, we've got why
were you giving me the wrap up, telling you to
wrap it up?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Because I was being told to wrap it up. Yeah,
there was something going on that we were not pritty to.
Because this is why I said, I don't want to
put her on blast, because I don't think that this
was her true character. I think that I think there
was something going on before we got there that we
didn't know about, either between her and her girlfriend, either
between her and her family, either between her and her agent.
(38:06):
There was something going on the friends. We don't know,
but we're gonna hope that eventually we get her again
and get that true personality of hers back to the
stud Buds real quick, because I think one of the
biggest things that we thought that the stud Buds broke
but they didn't break, was this emergency CBA meeting. There
(38:28):
was no emergency CBA. It somehow got so on the stream.
Neca comes in and she says, you have ten Courtney
of ten minutes, we have an emergency meeting, and everyone
was like, it's about the CBA, It's about the CBA,
It's about the CBA, And that was the narrative that
got picked up and kind of put out on blast,
on threads and on Twitter was that there was an
emergency CBA meeting. So we see Fie at Unrival and
(38:52):
we asked her about it and figs, I don't know
anything about an emergency CBA meeting.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
If there was this emergency meeting, I didn't hear anything
about this. We're like, well, she's the VP, so why
wouldn't she hear about it?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah, she's the VP. Oh so either this information isn't
true or he got left out, and either one of
those are very strange. So we wanted to get to
the bottom of it. So of course we went to
Courtney herself and asked, did you get pulled into an
emergency CBA meeting? And she said, Nona, she well she's
and she was kind of like a little bit like
(39:27):
wiggly about it, right, She was like, no, Neka just
gets mad at me, like when I'm late for meetings.
And we were like, okay, that was weird, wasn't it
kind of weird?
Speaker 2 (39:37):
And I was like, so, what what was the next
and ten minutes thing? Then?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Why is Neka telling you something about the start in
ten minutes if it happened, Because she was like, I
was late to the first CBA meeting. Well, what does
it have to do with, Hey, this is happening in
ten minutes. You're right, You're right.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
That was suspect. I didn't think about that to just now,
but that was.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
It was suspect, and we had no idea and we
were just like, okay, so something is something weird. We
find out then we go to the game. They do
the national anthem, and right at the end of the
national anthem, the players all unziped there, you know, warm
up sweatshirts, and they reveal shirts that say pay us
(40:15):
what you owe us. We'd come to later find out
that the shirts were decided on at ten am that
morning in a meeting that they were gonna wear these shirts.
That was the emergency meeting that Necca came in to
tell Courtney about that Fee played dumb about that. You know,
Courtney played dumb about.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
You think they were playing dumb with us? Do you
think that's what that?
Speaker 1 (40:37):
You think they were just playing, Yeah, they were gonna Yeah,
I think they were playing dumb with us. Like, I
don't know what that was. They do know what it was.
They were there so because apparently I remember Sabrina said
this or Kelsey said this, I'm sorry Sabrina didn't say anything.
Kelsey said that no one from Tombark was at that meeting,
and it was.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
No, no, no, no. What she said was none of
them were very present for the meeting, which in my mind,
because Sabrina's right there, Marina's from Team Clark, yes, like
they were so fucked up that they were barely even there.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
And I think a lot of people thought.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
That gotten lost. Yeah, that got lost in translation. And
I think the reason it got lost in translation was
because the narrative that was going around was that Clark
was Team Clark was inside and Team Feet was outside.
So I think people were like, what do you mean
that Team Clark was out of it, Like, you know,
they weren't out drinking. Well apparently they.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Were, so they just ran a club where like, yeah, Also,
we sat right behind the w NBA PA and they
were giving out signs that say pay the players and
and they actually I didn't realize that the w NBA
PA was right in front of us until I says, Sarah,
(41:54):
do you see those T shirts?
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Oh my gosh. I was kind of shocked.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Honestly, it was like I just didn't anticipate it at all,
and I was like, oh, oh my god, they're wearing
those shirts and I was like, I love it, and
You're like, I love it.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
It was cool.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
I was shocked, but loving it. And they snapped their
head right to us and they said, we love that
you love it.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
This all came off of reports that earlier in the
week they had met about the CBA and that they
were not happy with basically what the WNBA was offering,
and essentially what the WNBA was offering was not what
they were asking for in terms of percentage wise when
it comes to revenue share and salary, and also not
(42:40):
offering the ability for Unrivaled to continue. And apparently that
one of the things the WNBA wants to do is
get rid of Unrivaled, or at least get rid of
the ability for WNBA players to play and unrivaled. I
don't think that that's going to be a sticking point
that the WNBA have because I don't think the players
(43:01):
are going to go for it.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
And also sticking point was not just unrival but overseas
as well.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
So if you can make that's what I mean, lead
whatever they call it. Yeah, other other league's contracts. They
don't want they don't want players leaving, but they also
don't want to pay them enough to not have to
go somewhere.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yeah, that's just not going to happen at right now.
For everybody who doesn't know, the WNBA players are receiving
nine percent of revenue, which is half of the amount
the Dana White, who is considered one of the worst
people in terms of how he treats his labor and talent.
That is half of what he pays his fighters, which
(43:42):
is eighteen percent. The NBA and most men's leagues get
paid fifty percent of total revenue, not profit. And I
think that the WNBA is in a tough spot right
now given how much leverage the players have and how
many other leagues are doing so well.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
So I'm fascinated to see how this goes. I'm I've
been saying.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Since I interviewed an economist who wrote a book on
the labor agreement with the w NBA called Slaying the Trolls.
This guy, David Berry, I interviewed him, I think back
in October, and ever since he and I talked, he
doesn't believe this, but I do.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
I think there's going to be a lockout. I think
that there were.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
It's just going to be too difficult to find the
place that the w NBA PA wants, which is a
better percentage of revenue and minimum salaries with non.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Exclusivity outside of the season.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
I don't think it's gonna I don't I know that
you think it's going to get to a lockout. I
don't think it's going to get to a lockout. I
think it's going to get close. I think it's gonna give.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Me what do you think percentage that they don't they
what do you think the percentages that they will that
they would agree to.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
I mean Fee told us that there's a minimum, right
She said that there is a minimum that they will accept.
She won't tell us what that number was. I'm going
to guess thirty is their minimum. They're asking for fifty.
I think thirty is the minimum. We don't know. They've
never said fifty. They've said equal to the men's And
(45:20):
I think this is the problem. And what I've noticed
is people are really missing is people think that they're
asking for equal pay to the men, and they're not
asking for equal pay. They're asking for equal percentage. And
there's a big difference in that people also keep saying, oh, well,
the WNBA loses money. Well, also not true. The entity
(45:41):
as a whole to their investors lose money, loses you know,
X amount of money, or like the owners.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
We she don't know actually, because we actually don't know,
We actually have no idea what the economics are.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
I wouldn't even allow us to say that correct.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
They're telling us that they're losing money. But there's a
lot of economists and a lot of experts in the
industry who do not believe that to be the case.
Jamel Hill talked about that today on a podcast that
she does not believe that's the case. This is the
narrative is that we can't pay them because they're they're
losing money. And I think there's a lot of people
within the WNBA and the PA who are arguing this
(46:19):
that are saying, we need to see your books because
I don't believe you. And I think that's a big
source of tension for this is because we don't know
what's going on with them financially. We know that the
NBA subsidizes and takes forty percent of what the profit
margin is for the for the WNBA because that you know,
(46:40):
in their mind, we own the WNBA. We're taking our
money back, and that's obviously going to cut into what
There's also all these like loopholes, right like that teams
have to meet x amount of money on ticket sales
in order to be eligible for revenue share, and it's
like they have all these loopholes that like they almost
make it impossible to meet so that players cannot earn
their keep. And that's what these shirts pay us. What
(47:02):
you owe us means fee said, they have a number,
they have certain things. I don't think that the WNBA
is going to allow it to get to a lockout
they cannot operate with. I mean, what good does that
do anybody having a season that's not played. What good
does that do a single human? No, no one. It
doesn't does no one any good. It doesn't help them
(47:23):
make money, It doesn't help the owners make money. It
doesn't help these venues that they're now moving. You know,
we're not playing in high school gymnasiums anymore. They're renting
out space there. These places can't sit empty. These players
can't sit on the sidelines for a whole season. They
can't afford it. So I think a deal will get done.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
I think if you're a WNBA player, you're used to
not making any money. You're used to not you're making
seventy five thousand dollars. It's not about this CBA, it's
about future CBAS And the number has to be fifty.
It's and honestly to me, in my number, then these
NBA owners that own their WNBA teams, you shouldn't take
(48:05):
a penny from the revenue your financial situation is benefiting
from when you decide to sell this franchise, because the
valuations of these franchises now are through the roof to
the point where expansion franchises are going for two hundred
and fifty million dollars. And guess who gets that money
(48:26):
the owners. The owners split the expansion fees. So why
are you taking a single penny of revenue from these women.
It should go into that bucket, the women should split
it with the league, and the NBA owners should make
money from the value and the investment in that team,
not from the popcorn sales and the patches on the jerseys.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
The fact that Caitlin Clark makes seventy nine thousand dollars
a year, she makes that of an associate producer at
the networks who just paid millions and million millions of
dollars for the rights to basically Caitlin Clark. So you're
telling me that seventy nine thousand dollars is enough money
for Kaitlin Clark to made? Are you kidding me? Like?
Are you how? How is this where what the WNBA
(49:13):
is trying to offer to them? It's mind boggling.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
And the Chicago Sky play their practice at the Chicago
Sky practice at a rec center literally, and the Connecticut
Sun are also playing, you know, practicing in these low
budget facilities, and so there's just a disparity in terms of,
you know, what professional sports should look like and what
they actually are looking like. On top of the salaries
(49:37):
that they are not getting enough for. There's just no
If I'm ANFISA collier who's one of the top players
that is making decisions for the WNBAPA, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
You're not getting rid of unrivaled and what I've built
and created that.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
Is putting pressure on this league and is getting every
player paid two hundred and twenty two thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
I did hear though that when the broadcast was showing
all the signs right behind Team Clark's bench that said
pay the players. That commissioner, who was just literally dancing
with the stud buds two nights ago, was absolutely furious
that ESPN showed that on broadcast.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Kathy, yep, So it's it's fascinating, it's fascinating.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
I was just going to add on to what you
said about the Kathy thing, because I had also heard,
and I haven't seen the broadcast, but I had heard
that it was not that the players taking and showing
that pay us. What it was was not shown on
the broadcast.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
The T shirts were not shown.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
That's true. That's what someone told me. Editing Sarah here.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
I did fact check this, and it turns out ESPN,
while they didn't show the shirts live, Holly Road did
do a segment later on detailing the shirts and the
status of the CBA agreement.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
So while it wasn't shown live, it was covered later on.
Got back to the episode. I do think that, I mean,
she was talking at the end giving you know, giving
out the MVP team fee won by a but Joe,
I think it was like twenty point margin.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Caitlin Clark, by the way, was was she was losing
her shit.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
Basically, we were right and behind her, and since I
had money on the game, I felt like me and
her were simpatico with what we were seeing. This is
the benefit of betting on games, actually is you get
to see the things that you to actually feel the decisions,
having the magnitude and the weight on the outcome.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
And it's like, why is Asia Wilson just not gonna play?
Barely played it all. I should have known. I told
you as soon as I saw her in warm ups.
Speaker 3 (51:45):
Asia Wilson has a lot of makeup on. This is
not I'm ready to play in an All Star game
a matter of makeup. She's like a I am hanging
out out on the bench. She was hurt, she had
risk issues. We didn't know that until we didn't know
that until the game was gone going on.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
We didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
You had Britney Sykes who barely played. You had, you know,
just multiple oh Jackie Young.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
To Leah Boston pulling up from the logo every five seconds.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
I was losing my shit. Sandy Brondelo's rotations were just rough.
Caitlin's yelling being like, this is fucking bullshit. Sandy Brondelo,
the head coach for Team Clark, just laughing, smiling, ha
ha ha, No, no, Sandy Brondelo put somebody in the
game that can get a bucket or defend.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
It was like a layup line for Team Fee. And
by the way, how did we not even notice that?
Speaker 3 (52:38):
It was basically Yukon team Yukon versus everybody? The Yukon cartel.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Continues, Yeah, you don't seem to have anything to say
about that.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Hasn't it always been that way? I mean, hasn't it
always been Yukon versus the world?
Speaker 2 (52:56):
Now? I was in the All Star game format?
Speaker 3 (52:58):
Did you see that Brionnist We gave the ball to
Kiki eria Fin after she bricked at three, which, by
the way, she should not be shooting either. In addition
to a Leah Boston wasn't even on her same team,
got the rebound games running down to a close team
Fees beating that ass, and she's like, here you go, kid,
here's here's another shot.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
Like it's a like a practice situation. It's cute, and
she made it.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
She made the three.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
She did make it as time expired.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
It was like with like one with like one second
left on the clock. It was a it was a
fun it was a fun moment.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
Cute moment.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
Let's wrap this up. Give me your final thoughts, give
me your final thought on the weekend, what you saw,
you know, just a general observation and don't make it
about yourself.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
Okay. Wow.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
My takeaway is that this is going to be the
seminole moment in the w NBA where it becomes one
of the most popular events in all of sports. I
think this is going to go and Huger and Huger
and Huger. I think the stud Bud stream is a
big reason for that. I think we're gonna get more
(54:05):
of those, like twenty four hour long streams. We're gonna
get more personalities becoming themselves and showcasing the behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
We're gonna get more merched.
Speaker 3 (54:14):
We saw the WNBA Live Center, which we actually didn't
go into, but like there's brands and stuff in there,
I think, and I saw it in the airport.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
Everybody was wearing their Round twenty one shirts.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
Which by the way, I lost my card again at
the event, which I don't know if I'll.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Ever get back, and.
Speaker 3 (54:30):
So yeah, I think that will be sort of the
moment where the WNBA exploded, and it may be is
never gonna be the same way it is and I
hope it never gets corporate, but a lot of leagues,
I think, need to take notes on how this event
was done.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
It really made me feel really good about where the
women's game is, you know, fan base wise, growth wise,
accessibility wise. It made me feel really good about where
we are as women in sports and where these athletes are.
And I think that my bold prediction is that in
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five years from now, we're gonna have athletes on the
women's side that are more of household names than anyone
on the men's side, because the men lose steam where
the women gain it. And I think that's in personalities,
in person in accessibility, in you know, relatability. Men a
(55:30):
lot of these male athletes are these people on pedestals
that are untouchable, that live in mansions that you'll never
be able to afford, and drive cars that you'll never
see on the road, where watches that you don't even
can't even buy. And these women's athletes are people who
are on the street doing live streams that you can
walk up to and say, hey, I'm a big fan
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of yours, and I think that's what's gonna make and
break the women. I think that's not break. I think
that's gonna be what makes the women's sport. And I
think the worst thing because we heard a lot of
rumblings about how, you know, big media was not happy
with the stud Buds live stream or that you know,
and by big media, I mean the you know, the
networks with three or four letters. And I think that
(56:14):
the worst thing that the WNBA or any sports league
or any network could do is shut down this accessibility
and things like that, because I think that that is
what makes the game so appealing to so many people.
And I think that there were so many people in
our comments, in the stud Buds comments and on anything
that I saw of them that said they made me
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a fan of women's basketball this weekend.
Speaker 3 (56:39):
Thank you to everyone who followed us on Instagram this weekend.
We surpassed our goal of getting to ten thousand by
the time I landed from Indianapolis at the end of
All Star weekend. We are as we sit right now,
ten three hundred followers, So.
Speaker 2 (56:59):
It's fucking soon. S Cool.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
I'm very humble, and so Sarah. I would imagine chime in, Sarah,
you can cut me off now.
Speaker 1 (57:07):
I was just gonna say, I'm really excited. We got
a big week ahead, some really big interviews ahead this
week that I'm excited to bring our costunity. It's only
gonna get bigger from here, So subscribe, like join us,
do all the things because we're not going away anyway.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
Great show, everybody. I know my laptop is being trash
right now.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
So if you're watching this on YouTube and I'm delayed,
forgive me for all the bad facial expressions that I
get caught with and for me stepping on Sarah or
Sarah accidentally stepping on me.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
But I appreciate y'all. We appreciate y'all.
Speaker 3 (57:41):
We will be back with a bonus episode later this
week to preview the Euro Finals.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
In the meantime, Sarah and in the words of the
stud Buds.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
Letters, I'm not hot heah, I'm i hotter.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
I get anything out want. This is my world. I
make big moves. Excused since the day that I was
going to mean a meet him.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
H
Have you recovered yet?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
No what I was saying this when you were getting
the water.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
I slept in my car while my mom was getting
her cataracts done. Today, I'm a way better mood than
I was last time we recorded, but still grumpy.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I think, well, I think you need to get over it.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I need to get over my grump.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I think you need to get over your grump.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Oh okay, I see you think this is like makes
you endearing to our viewers, so they just give me
a hard time.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Okay, I do, I got it. I do. I like
being called the funny one.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I like you called you're not You're not the funny one.
I think we can.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I think you're in denial about that. Actually, I think
people think I'm funny, and I think you hate.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
That your own partner doesn't think you're funny. Okay, Okay,
we gotta go. We gotta get into this because the
last time we got one troll that gave me a
complex about us talking about our personal life, and he
was like, oh it took them, took them eighteen minutes
and thirty seconds to get in listen here, fucking Joe troll.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Can you don't want to know anything? About us.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
You just want us to spit out little facts about
your favorite women's sports like a fucking like a marionette,
just like a little like a Teddy Ruckspin doll, and
they just have like facts. No, that's not what voodoo
dolls do. Voodoo dolls don't spit out facts. Just give
me the backs and the scores.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
That's no fun. We're not going to be doing that. Actually.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Meanwhile, you just go to ESPN or the score app
or a myriad of other places for those boring ass
ways to deliver the content.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Who wants that?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Or you can just push fast forward? How about that?
Just push fast forward.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I'm not hotter, A'm i hotter.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I get anything I want. This is my world.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I make big moves in my big hus since I
take that I was going I made a big deal.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
All right, welcome too.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Let her shoot fro we were on the road, I believe. Actually,
and I've thought this before, of course because it's in
the end, but we are actually the only podcast that
is doing this the way we want it to be done.
We're the only sports media company in the women's side
doing what how we wanted to be done.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
We are asking questions that make our trolls say, ooh,
that's cringe.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Ooh.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I did ask them, making the athlete say, bro, that's
not a real question.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Disrespect for the athletes, the reasons to stay locked.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
In respect for ourselves.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
We got Sarah Chavnik here, a two time Emmy Award
winning producer, also.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
A new talent. She got to parlay with her talent
talent hat on it in Indianapolis. She was rolling.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Around feeling feeling herself Christy Craig, zero time Emmy Award
winning talent. I think also though Sarah, I should get
some producer credits.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
We'll talk about it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I do a lot of work that's not talent.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Did you write this rundown?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I set you these things verbatim via text, and I
went back to the text to see them.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
All you did was transpose.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
That's not all I did. I also put you know for.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
The copy and pasted intro and outro. No'm we need
to give the menu today on our show. It's really
a simple show. We're just gonna talk about what our
time was in Indianapolis for what I think is going
to be a seminal and pivotal moment.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I think Sara does too for the WNBA and women's
sports as a whole. We got, we had a time.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
We just ingested at all, and we're gonna tell you
everything we saw, everything we learned. We're gonna give you
some tea, our own personal anecdotes. Me and Sarah were
like terrified of getting bullied by Dja Carrington, who looks
so fucking good in person, but she also wore sandglasses,
so you wonder if she takes them off, whether there's
lasers coming out of there. Anyway, We'll bring you along
(03:57):
for the ride, Sarah.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Is your favorite part of this weekend? I have mine
and I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
What yours was. My favorite part was the Paisy.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Page page asy, like the hardest, like no one can
dispute launch right, like the that is my girlfriend, she I.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Am her, she is mine.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
We see the kissing, we see the hand holding, the
arms wrapped around, we see the hand on the leg,
we see the Yukon team being.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Like Chris Cross will make you jump jump literally. When
we're gonna get we'll get to all that. But it
was definitely the we can't hide the Paisy thing anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
There's no like anybody who's in our comments being like, well,
you don't know they could we do know?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, we do.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I think yeah, I mean I think they finally put
the wrap on that which you know on Was it
Thursday night at the Welcome or Wedursday night?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Wednesday night?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
No, Thursday night? What it was? Thursday night?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
What it was?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Thursday night? Okay, so Thursday night at the Orange Carpet,
our girl Mattie Hoops with the scoop of the scoop
of the century on the world's worst kept secret.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
By the way, by the way, by the way, by
the way.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Scratch that there's a difference between Maddie Hoops and Iso Maddie. Yeah,
and Iso Maddie is different than Maddie Hoops. And Maddie
Hoops is who we saw at the party. So I
was giving Maddie Hoops all this love, but it's actually
Iso Maddie who does the Wags content but also shout
out to Iso Maddie and shout out to Maddie Hoops.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Iso Maddie got the scoop of the century on the
Orange Carpet for Wag talk, which is like, if anyone
hasn't seen what Iso Maddi does. She does like a
series of asking the Wags essentially a pop quiz on
their partner, on their on their athlete partner. And this
athlete partner she got was Paige Becker's, and she said,
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how well do you know your d one girlfriend? She
goes the whole thing page, gets all the questions right,
of course, like a good girlfriend. And at the end
they said girlfriend reveal and she said Aisy Fudd and
the world said, gasp, pretend to be shocked because we
all knew this. I mean, that's not.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
There's some people in the Bible Belt that were shocked
by it.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I mean, welcome to those people who just pulled their
head out of the sand. I do hope they can
breathe better now.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I'm just glad that we is done right, Like, we
don't have to.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Like question everything, fund the restaurant that they go to.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
We don't have to be like, well as he's around
a lot of the team, we don't have to do
any of that. Of course she's around, that's your girlfriend. Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Former teammate is done.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
The former teammate narrative is cooked.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It's cooked, kind of like I cooked in the wild,
getting us some goddamn guests.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I feel like you're bragging about yourself through this episode
might get a little exhausting. Just FYI, you didn't ask
me my favorite part of the weekend, which is fine,
but because I wasn't expecting you to, because that's what
you do.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, I mean this was your first time ever sort
of covering women's hoops, which I think is fascinating because
it's a totally different culture, totally what stuck out to you?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I really you know, see this is a different question
because this isn't my favorite part of the weekend. So
all I answers using two parts. It's fine, you know,
it's fine. This is talent being talent, change being talent,
duct tape talent over there, just changing and doing whatever
you feel like. So the answer your question to me.
On the producer side, you know, we are really kind
(07:35):
of like trapped behind the scenes. You know, we're wearing
all black to blend into the background so that people
don't see us, which is.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Oh wait, that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Wearing all black on a shoot? Yeah what yeah, why
to blend into the background.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
What do you mean blend into the background.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, because like when you're a producer on a on
a broad cast or on a shoot, like if you
get seen on cam, if you sneak on camera, you
don't want to look like talent. You don't want to
look like you're the person that, like, you know, you're
sneaking into the background. Your crew, crew got it is offen.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
They treat off, They treat you off real foul.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, exactly, we're in the back. Well what we eat?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You have to wear a certain thing, like this yellow sweatshirt.
They would be out, they'd be like.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
No, yeah, it was weird. It was weird being the
person that like got invited to parties and like god,
invited to you know, two events and talk to people
and shake hands. Like that's a weird place for me
to be, because that's not usually producers are usually the
ones just following around and going to bed at nine
(08:46):
pm because we've got to be up at to set
up location shoots the next morning at six o'clock. So
that was a unique experience for me, but even cooler
than that was. Actually another part about being a producer
is you're never wrecked because no one knows what a
producer looks like or who the producer is, so like
you have to really like lead with your resume every
(09:07):
time you meet someone or you know not and then
you just hope that they believe you and what you're saying.
But what was a really cool experience for me and
kind of a little bit mind boggling, was people on
the street or at events or at parties coming up
to us and saying, Wow, I'm a huge fan of
you guys. I watch your podcast and I'm a huge
(09:31):
fan of what you guys are doing. I'm a huge
fan of the community you're building. And that was my
favorite part of the weekend. That was the coolest thing
to me was to see people, people who are watching
this right now come up to us and shake our hands.
Because that's what I want. I want people to feel
like they can come up to us and shoot the
(09:52):
shit about sports anytime they want.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, that was super dope. It's cool. It's very humbling.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It's very humbling for people to be like, like, I
think one of the I love the fans and I
will always be and I think we will always be
fan first. And there's a lot of places that are
very that have their quote unquote talent and their podcast
hosts or their former athletes that are the lead part
of the brand that they're like untouchable, Like I don't
feel like I could come up to Megan Rapino and
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be like, hey, just wanted to say like.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
At all, Hey, what'd you think of that?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
No, yeah, and like chatting and you know the fact
that that was something that that they felt comfortable doing
was dope. But I also thought it was really cool
that like a guy from Adweek was like your daily
w how come we need to do a feature on you?
And we need to see what you're up to? You
(10:47):
guys are gonna explode. And I really was shocked. I
was shocked at that, and this obviously I thought on
a non art stuff manner. The thing that I also
loved a lot was just the stud bud stream.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
How do we want to get into this?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
So do you want to just kind of go chronologically
with time takeaways?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Okay, let's go chronologically.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Let's first and foremost talk about how you got here? Right.
So I'm on the plane. So I'm on the plane right,
travel from to Indy Vegas.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
First NBA Summer League m NBA. And by the way,
m NBA is catching on folks. People are saying m NBA,
which I love anyway. So I'm traveling from m NBA
Summer League to All Star weekend for an indie and
I get a text from someone who I'd worked with
before at Voldemort Stool, and she was like, Hey, I
(11:49):
don't have anybody that's going to be in Indie and
I've got these athletes that they're pitching.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Do you want any of them?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
So I send it to the group chat, Hey, guys,
what do you think? And one of them was KK
Arnold as teammate Yukon Star Yukon Yukon sort of six
man defensive but very funny, has a big TikTok following,
and just is gonna be on another team, this team
again and I think it's prime to repeat. So I
(12:18):
was like, oh man, it would be so dope if
if you Sarah could do the podcast with me live there,
and she's like, basically like lock it up, lock it
up is done kind of a thing. Just send me,
you know, just a little emails that I can just
make sure to like close the loop with the people
who are doing it.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
And then turns out KK disappeared into the mist.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
She was busy.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Girls like just sand in between our fingers.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
But anyway, you got the chance to see the three
Point Contest live and the All Star Game live for
the first time ever. Actually it was my first time
live seeing that too. I've never been live to a
women's We did, we did.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
We didn't the Skills comp because we actually got pulled
into renamed Montgomery's live stream, but.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Also my purse got there were people, okay, so going
in you couldn't.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay, but I.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Also got We also missed the Skills Challenge because of
the purse scenario.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Okay, let's go back.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Oh yes, ok so she disappears into the mist and
we end up deciding or we're going to link up
with this agent who I know. There's an unrivaled event
that's going on, unrivaled with three on three tournament.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
They have like sort of I don't actually know what
it was.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
It was almost a fan experience and they had some
of the unrivaled athletes stop through do Q and A
and then sign autographs and take photos and then for us,
we got an opportunity to do a little.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Five minute one on one with them and then Sarah okay,
so let's just start there. How was that for you?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
That was? Yes, So we we met up with Britneykes,
Slim Slim Slim.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
And if you don't know who Slim is, she's the
one that was went super viral because she was walking
around during the All Star Game with the pay us
signs and dancing to Glorilla.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah she was. She was great and we knew that
was another cool moment as we introduced ourselves and she said, oh,
I know who you guys are, which was kind of crazy,
wild wild, and we had a great time with her.
We had a great little interview with her. She came
for Ray Burrell's neck, and then the next day we
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had Ray Burrell respond, which was even more fun. She
kind of defended herself, but not really.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Raise a sweet girl. She didn't want any super sweet girl.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And I think, you know, all this is kind of
just a domino effect that took us one place to another,
to another to another, which you know, all of this
eventually led to us going to Azy Fud's coming out
party on Friday night after Skills Challenge. We could talk
about the Skills Challenge for a minute. Super fun environment
(15:06):
we didn't see again. We came in right at the
end of the Skills Challenge, which Tasha Cloud won, which
is awesome for her. I'm so glad to see that
for her, and I think there were a lot of
people who were super glad, you know, that she got
that recognition. Three point contest, which was a blast to watch.
I really enjoyed though, watching the most watching the teammates,
(15:28):
the fans, or I mean not the fans, I mean
they were fans of their teammates in this moment, but
the teammates of the players just losing their shit on
the court. You know, Tasha Cloud was behind Sabrina the
whole time, just pumping her up just like it was
like ultimate hype man energy. And I think that was
(15:50):
honestly the best part of this weekend was how watching
the community of the WNBA really just the closeness, the
tight knit niss of this the way they all supported
each other through the weekend, through literally all of it,
through uh the actual on the court, through the parties,
(16:11):
through the you know, CBA stuff that was going on,
which we'll talk about later too. It was just this
really cool dynamic to see the way these players just
really bonded together and watching them just kind of be
themselves out in the open, which we got to see
because of the step buds.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Can I talk about the can I talk about the
purse thing really fast?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That kept us from getting there on time?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Because I just saw this on social today.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Don't don't go, don't go. Ba.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
There's a reason, bitch that I'm telling this to the people. Okay,
I saw this online and I was like, I can
relate to this. So okay, I don't know if you
know this, Sarah, but you can't bring your person any
bigger than like basically an envelope. I know.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I watched you try to stuff it into the little
box for like twenty minutes while I was telling you
it's not gonna fit. It's not gonna fit. It's not
gonna fit. And then who was right? Continue bos.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Bous?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Stuff it into the box is crazy? Over stuffed it
into the box is crazy?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Can you continue anyway?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
So you have to go across the street to the
high and drop your bag off, and they.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Only have cash.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
And again it was like the Sisterhood where people who
did have cash because they also didn't have change.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Were like, okay, I have twenty dollars.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Three other women I got you just either venmo me
or don't. But I saw this. I went through the
I tried to stuff it in as you said, Sarah,
And the guy was like, nah, you're not doing it.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
And I was like, y media, and he's like, you are.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I love your podcast, but you I can't be making
exceptions for you, girl. You gotta go in So anyway,
I saw when I was walking out this and then
I saw a whole TikTok video this morning. People were
just abandoning their luxury purses.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
They were just throwing them in the trash.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I saw a seventeen dollars YSL purse in the trash.
I was like, you got me real fucked up for
the for the All Star Skills Challenge. No, ma'am, No, ma'am,
it's going to the Highatta across the street.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I did leave you at security.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, and guess what. Guess who the real rider die was? Juju.
Juju stayed with me. He went and dropped the purse off.
You were nowhere the fuck to be found.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
To be fair, you had Juju's ticket and I had
my own on your phone. That I had my own,
that's not true. That's actually not true. I transferred the
ticket to his phone, so he had it on his phone.
I only missed the skills contest at this point, I
was wanting to see the three pointer because w NBA
Friday Night only an hour long. It's only an hour Long's.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, that part was wild.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Wein Sabrina was gonna win, win it too. Sabrina was
just so obviously she had thirty something points in the skills,
I mean in the three point contest. She's I just
came away on that event being like, man, this would
have been so lit if Caitlin was healthy, it would
been so insane.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
It was a bummer. We saw I mean, we saw
her enter the arena, We saw her cur Oh my god,
please continue.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Anyway, we went to the party. We went to the party.
Then we didn't know we were going to go. I
wasn't sure. You weren't sure.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
And it's the asy fud fud around and find out
podcast release party, which.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I don't know best you've ever been name for a podcast.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
It is, it is, but I don't know if you've
ever been to like a podcast release party. I thought
it was gonna be quite lame. It was not pod
It's a podcast release party for a player who's not
even in the w NBA college with the with the
college player with a performer the lead performer who's also.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Not in the w NBA, who's a college player in
fla j.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, and that was that was a cool experience getting
to why it was like a little private concert. We
got a little private flage a concert for like, you know,
a thousand people, which was super cool.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I don't even think it. I think it was less
maybe yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, a couple hundred. That a shot there was cool
real quick, because your stream of consciousness is all over
the place, and I know that's how my brain works,
I know, and it's kind of driving me nuts.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well, I was just going to say that it was
cool when we walked into the party that As was
out with everybody. She was like in the VIP.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
She was. She really is the people's princess. She was
just taking photos, she was chatting, and I.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Was she looked fantastic. Did you see, by the way,
real quick, speaking of people's princess, did you see the
picture of Asy that I sent you earlier, like holding
a baby?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Like like she literally she's out there like legitimately kissing babies.
Someone just handed their four week old baby to Aisy Fudd.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Didn't you just give me a hard time about change?
Like literally going all over the place. And now we're
talking about something that didn't even happen during all these.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
People it did.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It happened yesterday anyway. So we're at Easy Fudd's coming
out party. It was literally Aisy Fud's coming out party
because it was the night after the asy Fud, you know,
coming out.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
So we go there.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
It's her, it's her launch for her podcast, and and
at first it's just Asy there and then like little
by little, we see people trickling in. We see who
ell did we see come in?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
We saw.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Angel Reaves come in.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
We saw we saw d and her boyfriend who's in
the NBA. She took some photos. Well, they took photos.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Together at the actual All Star weekend and they were grinding.
They came together, they were grinding on each other and
then they took photos together. I don't know what boyfriend girlfriend.
I don't know if they're exclusive, but he's pulling her
for a chat. He's pulled her friend chat.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Melissa and Djona come in, which was quite possibly one
of the funnier interactions we had of the night because.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
They walk up.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
They first of all, I've never felt shorter in a room.
I've never felt more like I'm crawling on the floor
than in a room full of w NBA players and
they're either college teammates or their NBA boyfriends. I could
not have felt smaller to the ground, which was hard
(23:03):
because it got pretty packed there for a bit and.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Then hard to see, hard, hard to maneuver.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I was like, I'm lost. I was just looking for
Juju in the crowd to see if we could find him,
because that was the only way I could find you
because you were too small as well. Anyway, we see
Dja and Melyssa come in and at one point they're
like trying to get through to the to the like
roped off VIP to VIP, which is where we were.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah yeah, And so.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
They're trying to get in and we're kind of like
standing near the entrance, and I'm not joking. Dj A
just kind of like walks up towards us and just
like stands directly in front of us, like.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Kind I just go just like part the seas just
move does had no.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
She just like takes one look at us and we
both just shriek back into the wall, move away as
you were.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
To stay out of here and just go. I was terrified.
She looks incredible though, by the way, incredible.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, she's perfect. She drags Melissa around behind her, which
I love, like a little puppy she does.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Like that little thing that they put on the purses.
What's those little things called? They're like Japanese what you
know what those are?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
No, like Tamagotchi's.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, but they're not. They're like a new thing. Gen
Z knows what they are.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Oh, they're like the luless Yeah, yes, or whatever. I
have no idea what it's called. I could hear Sam
somewhere in the background screaming the name to me Lea
boo boo. She literally just yelled it to me, the
boo boo. We see. We saw HVL come in, which.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
With Chalin sugs, which we immediately just ducked, dun ducked.
I'm not ready. I don't think for seeing the peace
people that I speak about trash talk. You know, I
didn't trash talk her. I like HVL. I wanted her
to succeed.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I just to interact with her.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
At a party, we talked to some people who were
with some college athletes. When the HVL news jumped off,
which I will not say who they are, but they.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Were, but no, we're not naming the names.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
But big player, very premiere, very like gonna be a
one top top top ten pick, top five pick uh
in the next year's draft. And so apparently when they
were with her when that news came out, we got
aggregated and they were like, I mean, but are they all?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
We also saw a couple of players, again not going
to name names, who I don't did not know we're
boot up with each other. That was a surprise. And
again that was.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Teammates tamates on a team and I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I mean, I knew one of them was gay just
by looking, but didn't they.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Knew both of them were gay. I knew both of
them were gay. Yes, really you did? Yes? Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
And no this is not, by the way, this is
not the couple that also got out of this weekend in.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And Sonia and Marina.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
This is outside of that. Outside of there was a
couple outings this weekend. There was Gabby and Marine apparently
also got outed on the stud buds.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
But there are the step buds already knew that.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Well, yeah, I mean, I don't think you can out
someone who is already like a living together, engaged couple.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
We saw the first Paisy public kiss.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
That was exciting. That was actually a really fun moment.
I saw it, You didn't because your back was turned
and I was trying to get your attention, but I
didn't want to be like super obvious about it. I
see Asy just like standing over kind of at the
edge of the VIP area. She's like maybe like a
couple feet from us, and she's like looking at the door,
and I hap to you and I said, Page is
about to walk in, and he said, how do you know?
(27:04):
And we turned around. Page comes running in the door
with KK with there was there was a bunch of the.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Busiest woman was there, Yeah, busiest.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Women in America, KK, Sarah, Sarah Strong, Yeah, Jane l
Alfie was there. It was like the probably pretty much
the whole Yukon team. So Page runs up and like
kind of like picks Asy up. And the coolest moment
was all of the Yukon players just like huddling around them,
(27:35):
jumping up and down, hyping them up, like so excited
that they've now finally like come out and embraced this.
And this was like the first Paige public public paysy
boes that, you know, and so Paige. You know, it
was cute. They were just kind of like locked in
on each other and they went to dancing and taking
(27:57):
pictures with their teammates and it was just a really
cute little moment and it just made me feel really
happy for them, you know, like this was this was
literally easy Fugs coming out party. I don't even I
still don't even know what the podcast is about.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
She said anything she wants it to be anything it wants.
I saw somebody I forget. Maybe it was either like
we saw Hannah Hidalgo and Sonya Sitron there and there
was a lot I think there was like somebody that
was coming in at the same time as No, you
know what it was.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
It was Keiki Keeky was coming.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
In at the same time as Sarah's strong and everyone
was just swarming around Keki and Sarah was like, I
need to go this way, get me the fuck out
of this. I can just tell that Sarah if she
doesn't like something, her facial expressions are gold.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I mean, to be fair, there was a lot of
drinking going on at this party. I'm not saying Sarah
she's underage. I didn't see Sarah drinking.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
She looked very sober to me, though by the way
she looked, she looked like she was she I.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Think that may have been why she looks so bored,
because everyone else was. I mean, they ran out of
alcohol at one am. We you were so confident in
the amount of alcohol that was being consumed by Team
Fee that you put a bet on Team Clark while
we were still at the bar.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
And yes, you lost to forty seven am.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I was like, yeah, well, these girls are fucked up.
We saw angels standing on the table dancing. We had
at up in there. I mean, it was every single
member of Team Fee that was God side except for Fee.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Stud buds came in there.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
They're shaking their ass or dropping it low. You got
a flage in there. She's on Team Fee, but she's
I mean, it was just very hype. It gave very
much like college warehouse vibes.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Oh, it was absolutely college warehouse. This address isn't on
a map, it's invite only. You gotta get gotta get
the Facebook like remember those Facebook party groups that you
would get like in, and it was like a private invite.
It's probably dating, ye, but you know we're so yeah,
(30:10):
that's what it felt like though, it felt like like
entertainment provided by like also within the club.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I just thought it was cool, and I said this
a little bit earlier, just to put the exclamation mark
on it, that the two biggest stars or the party
of the weekend, and it really was. I know, the
Diplo party was jumping and you know the which is
a sports illustrated party, but that that was the party
of the weekend because everybody went, and it wasn't the
(30:39):
day after the game, it was in the day of
the game. It was the day of the three point contest,
so you know, everybody was sort of out and ready.
And that was a party hosted by a player who
hadn't even gotten into the w NBA yet, and the
performance Act has not gotten into the w NBA yet either,
So that just shows you it's all almost like Paisy
(31:01):
Paisy Asy is having the sort of run that Paige
did last year, which is very very cool. It'd be
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Speaker 1 (31:42):
I want to talk about the biggest gossip breaking of
the week. Did not come from any reporters, did not
come from anybody but the step Buds, who was their
seventy two hour live stream I read yesterday was averaging
a one hundred and eighty thousand viewers.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Really, I thought when we would be in the stream
because we were watching it, everybody was watching it.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
When we went to the Unrivaled event, they had it
on their big screen.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
They were just watching them the whole time. That was
just like part of the entertainment, and we would watch
when we weren't doing stuff. But I remember seeing like
thirty seven thousand on it or ten thousand on it.
Maybe it's just in terms of how many.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Maybe it was one hundred days in total, Yeah, but
maybe it was like maybe they were averaging a day.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
So what's the thing that they broke that you find
found to be the most impactful.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
They outed Sanaia and Marina.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
We didn't really out them. They kind of out of themselves.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
On the stream, which they outed themselves on the stream.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
They did, they did, they did, they had well.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
First of all, let's just talk about the Stud Buds
stream in general, because they were the highlight of the
weekend on social media. Yeah, and I think that they
the attention that they brought to this event had people
locked in between game time right like. It wasn't as
if people were only tuning in for a little bit
(33:13):
of pregame for the actual game, for a little bit
of postgame maybe if they really wanted to hear a breakdown,
and then they were then TV off, mind off, they've
forgotten about it. The Stud Buds kept people who were
not there, who did not have tickets, who did not
get invited to these parties. They brought them in on
everything that they did. For those who don't know the
(33:36):
Stud Buds, Courtney Williams and Tea Hiding of the of
the Minnesota Bank. Courtney was playing in the All Star
but Tea just came along with her. I still can't
figure if their roommates not roommates, just best friends anyway,
so they bring the fans along. They had promised a
(33:57):
seventy two hour live stream on their Twitch and they delivered.
They went. I mean they were live for everything, through practices,
through dinner, through lunch, through parties.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
They were saying where they were at too. They were like,
we're at Connors right now, weren't there?
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, I was like, we should pull up, We're getting
stopped by fans.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
They were.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
They were pulling people in for like lat you know,
they were they had Everyone was on the stream. Page
was on the stream, Caitlin was on the stream. Uh,
the commissioner, Sabrine stream Sabrina. Although Sabrina saw the camera
and immediately dipped out because she wanted she wanted nothing.
She hadn't seen what have been happening. At that point,
we had Megan Rappino asking live on the stream if
(34:44):
Courtney has ever been strapped, which was an awkward and
terribly uncomfortable question to watch. And I don't think I've
ever been more uncomfortable watching something in my life than
that interaction because Courtney had no idea what she was
talking about.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Well because in basketball, which Megan Rapino clearly knows nothing
about getting strapped, which.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Is funny because she's married to the goat.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, it's like that's when somebody puts you in a
seatbelt and locks you down and plays such a lead
defense on you that you are strapped. You just got strapped,
And Meghan Rapino's thinking it means strap ons, And you
know me, I have almost no boundaries.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
On what I will ask, and I don't think I
would ask that.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I hope to God that you don't, because if you do,
I'm gonna turn the camera off. That's my skin was
like I was crawling out of my skin watching that,
almost as much as I was crawling out of my
skin watching you have the most the world's most awkward
interview with a player that we're just gonna code name
because I don't think it's fair to her to put
(35:52):
her on blast about this really awkward interview. But it
was the world's most awkward interview.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Asian didn't think it was that bad.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Adrian wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
It was really bad. It was it was giving I
don't do this.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Let's give her a name. Let's call her. Let's call
her Stacy.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
All right, let's call her Stacy.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
So we were gonna meet up with Stacy, and everybody
was like, it's gonna happen. It's gonna be so funny.
She's so lighthearted. You know, she's one of the funniest
players in the league.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
And the reason why that was so important is we
were doing we were there doing a series kind of
a little spin off of Let Her Shoot, called Shooting
the Ship with you know players. We did Britney Sykes,
we did uh Ray Burrell, we did the stud Buds,
we did Jada Williams, we did Ari McDonald. So we
(36:48):
had a couple of these and we thought that Stacy
was gonna was gonna be like the top one of
the best ones that we were gonna get. Yeah, we
we thought that this was good. This was the one
that we were the most like, we have to like
go to her schedule more than stud Bucks. We were like,
we have to find well. We waited outside the stadium
(37:08):
for her for like an hour outside the arena after
the three point contests, and.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
We're just like workshopping questions, workshopping questions, and then her
energy in person was just like so disinterested, so bored,
but also like shy was giving shy like very quiet,
very soft spoken, and she's pulling at her pants. She's
looking over at her crew. I'm getting the like the
(37:36):
radio row hand of the watch like, we've got why
were you giving me the wrap up, telling you to
wrap it up?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Because I was being told to wrap it up. Yeah,
there was something going on that we were not pritty to.
Because this is why I said, I don't want to
put her on blast, because I don't think that this
was her true character. I think that I think there
was something going on before we got there that we
didn't know about, either between her and her girlfriend, either
between her and her family, either between her and her agent.
(38:06):
There was something going on the friends. We don't know,
but we're gonna hope that eventually we get her again
and get that true personality of hers back to the
stud Buds real quick, because I think one of the
biggest things that we thought that the stud Buds broke
but they didn't break, was this emergency CBA meeting. There
(38:28):
was no emergency CBA. It somehow got so on the stream.
Neca comes in and she says, you have ten Courtney
of ten minutes, we have an emergency meeting, and everyone
was like, it's about the CBA, It's about the CBA,
It's about the CBA, And that was the narrative that
got picked up and kind of put out on blast,
on threads and on Twitter was that there was an
emergency CBA meeting. So we see Fie at Unrival and
(38:52):
we asked her about it and figs, I don't know
anything about an emergency CBA meeting.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
If there was this emergency meeting, I didn't hear anything
about this. We're like, well, she's the VP, so why
wouldn't she hear about it?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah, she's the VP. Oh so either this information isn't
true or he got left out, and either one of
those are very strange. So we wanted to get to
the bottom of it. So of course we went to
Courtney herself and asked, did you get pulled into an
emergency CBA meeting? And she said, Nona, she well she's
and she was kind of like a little bit like
(39:27):
wiggly about it, right, She was like, no, Neka just
gets mad at me, like when I'm late for meetings.
And we were like, okay, that was weird, wasn't it
kind of weird?
Speaker 2 (39:37):
And I was like, so, what what was the next
and ten minutes thing? Then?
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Why is Neka telling you something about the start in
ten minutes if it happened, Because she was like, I
was late to the first CBA meeting. Well, what does
it have to do with, Hey, this is happening in
ten minutes. You're right, You're right.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
That was suspect. I didn't think about that to just now,
but that was.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
It was suspect, and we had no idea and we
were just like, okay, so something is something weird. We
find out then we go to the game. They do
the national anthem, and right at the end of the
national anthem, the players all unziped there, you know, warm
up sweatshirts, and they reveal shirts that say pay us
(40:15):
what you owe us. We'd come to later find out
that the shirts were decided on at ten am that
morning in a meeting that they were gonna wear these shirts.
That was the emergency meeting that Necca came in to
tell Courtney about that Fee played dumb about that. You know,
Courtney played dumb about.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
You think they were playing dumb with us? Do you
think that's what that?
Speaker 1 (40:37):
You think they were just playing, Yeah, they were gonna Yeah,
I think they were playing dumb with us. Like, I
don't know what that was. They do know what it was.
They were there so because apparently I remember Sabrina said
this or Kelsey said this, I'm sorry Sabrina didn't say anything.
Kelsey said that no one from Tombark was at that meeting,
and it was.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
No, no, no, no. What she said was none of
them were very present for the meeting, which in my mind,
because Sabrina's right there, Marina's from Team Clark, yes, like
they were so fucked up that they were barely even there.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
And I think a lot of people thought.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
That gotten lost. Yeah, that got lost in translation. And
I think the reason it got lost in translation was
because the narrative that was going around was that Clark
was Team Clark was inside and Team Feet was outside.
So I think people were like, what do you mean
that Team Clark was out of it, Like, you know,
they weren't out drinking. Well apparently they.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Were, so they just ran a club where like, yeah, Also,
we sat right behind the w NBA PA and they
were giving out signs that say pay the players and
and they actually I didn't realize that the w NBA
PA was right in front of us until I says, Sarah,
(41:54):
do you see those T shirts?
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Oh my gosh. I was kind of shocked.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Honestly, it was like I just didn't anticipate it at all,
and I was like, oh, oh my god, they're wearing
those shirts and I was like, I love it, and
You're like, I love it.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
It was cool.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
I was shocked, but loving it. And they snapped their
head right to us and they said, we love that
you love it.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
This all came off of reports that earlier in the
week they had met about the CBA and that they
were not happy with basically what the WNBA was offering,
and essentially what the WNBA was offering was not what
they were asking for in terms of percentage wise when
it comes to revenue share and salary, and also not
(42:40):
offering the ability for Unrivaled to continue. And apparently that
one of the things the WNBA wants to do is
get rid of Unrivaled, or at least get rid of
the ability for WNBA players to play and unrivaled. I
don't think that that's going to be a sticking point
that the WNBA have because I don't think the players
(43:01):
are going to go for it.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
And also sticking point was not just unrival but overseas
as well.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
So if you can make that's what I mean, lead
whatever they call it. Yeah, other other league's contracts. They
don't want they don't want players leaving, but they also
don't want to pay them enough to not have to
go somewhere.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yeah, that's just not going to happen at right now.
For everybody who doesn't know, the WNBA players are receiving
nine percent of revenue, which is half of the amount
the Dana White, who is considered one of the worst
people in terms of how he treats his labor and talent.
That is half of what he pays his fighters, which
(43:42):
is eighteen percent. The NBA and most men's leagues get
paid fifty percent of total revenue, not profit. And I
think that the WNBA is in a tough spot right
now given how much leverage the players have and how
many other leagues are doing so well.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
So I'm fascinated to see how this goes. I'm I've
been saying.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Since I interviewed an economist who wrote a book on
the labor agreement with the w NBA called Slaying the Trolls.
This guy, David Berry, I interviewed him, I think back
in October, and ever since he and I talked, he
doesn't believe this, but I do.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
I think there's going to be a lockout. I think
that there were.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
It's just going to be too difficult to find the
place that the w NBA PA wants, which is a
better percentage of revenue and minimum salaries with non.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Exclusivity outside of the season.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
I don't think it's gonna I don't I know that
you think it's going to get to a lockout. I
don't think it's going to get to a lockout. I
think it's going to get close. I think it's gonna give.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Me what do you think percentage that they don't they
what do you think the percentages that they will that
they would agree to.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
I mean Fee told us that there's a minimum, right
She said that there is a minimum that they will accept.
She won't tell us what that number was. I'm going
to guess thirty is their minimum. They're asking for fifty.
I think thirty is the minimum. We don't know. They've
never said fifty. They've said equal to the men's And
(45:20):
I think this is the problem. And what I've noticed
is people are really missing is people think that they're
asking for equal pay to the men, and they're not
asking for equal pay. They're asking for equal percentage. And
there's a big difference in that people also keep saying, oh, well,
the WNBA loses money. Well, also not true. The entity
(45:41):
as a whole to their investors lose money, loses you know,
X amount of money, or like the owners.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
We she don't know actually, because we actually don't know,
We actually have no idea what the economics are.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
I wouldn't even allow us to say that correct.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
They're telling us that they're losing money. But there's a
lot of economists and a lot of experts in the
industry who do not believe that to be the case.
Jamel Hill talked about that today on a podcast that
she does not believe that's the case. This is the
narrative is that we can't pay them because they're they're
losing money. And I think there's a lot of people
within the WNBA and the PA who are arguing this
(46:19):
that are saying, we need to see your books because
I don't believe you. And I think that's a big
source of tension for this is because we don't know
what's going on with them financially. We know that the
NBA subsidizes and takes forty percent of what the profit
margin is for the for the WNBA because that you know,
(46:40):
in their mind, we own the WNBA. We're taking our
money back, and that's obviously going to cut into what
There's also all these like loopholes, right like that teams
have to meet x amount of money on ticket sales
in order to be eligible for revenue share, and it's
like they have all these loopholes that like they almost
make it impossible to meet so that players cannot earn
their keep. And that's what these shirts pay us. What
(47:02):
you owe us means fee said, they have a number,
they have certain things. I don't think that the WNBA
is going to allow it to get to a lockout
they cannot operate with. I mean, what good does that
do anybody having a season that's not played. What good
does that do a single human? No, no one. It
doesn't does no one any good. It doesn't help them
(47:23):
make money, It doesn't help the owners make money. It
doesn't help these venues that they're now moving. You know,
we're not playing in high school gymnasiums anymore. They're renting
out space there. These places can't sit empty. These players
can't sit on the sidelines for a whole season. They
can't afford it. So I think a deal will get done.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
I think if you're a WNBA player, you're used to
not making any money. You're used to not you're making
seventy five thousand dollars. It's not about this CBA, it's
about future CBAS And the number has to be fifty.
It's and honestly to me, in my number, then these
NBA owners that own their WNBA teams, you shouldn't take
(48:05):
a penny from the revenue your financial situation is benefiting
from when you decide to sell this franchise, because the
valuations of these franchises now are through the roof to
the point where expansion franchises are going for two hundred
and fifty million dollars. And guess who gets that money
(48:26):
the owners. The owners split the expansion fees. So why
are you taking a single penny of revenue from these women.
It should go into that bucket, the women should split
it with the league, and the NBA owners should make
money from the value and the investment in that team,
not from the popcorn sales and the patches on the jerseys.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
The fact that Caitlin Clark makes seventy nine thousand dollars
a year, she makes that of an associate producer at
the networks who just paid millions and million millions of
dollars for the rights to basically Caitlin Clark. So you're
telling me that seventy nine thousand dollars is enough money
for Kaitlin Clark to made? Are you kidding me? Like?
Are you how? How is this where what the WNBA
(49:13):
is trying to offer to them? It's mind boggling.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
And the Chicago Sky play their practice at the Chicago
Sky practice at a rec center literally, and the Connecticut
Sun are also playing, you know, practicing in these low
budget facilities, and so there's just a disparity in terms of,
you know, what professional sports should look like and what
they actually are looking like. On top of the salaries
(49:37):
that they are not getting enough for. There's just no
If I'm ANFISA collier who's one of the top players
that is making decisions for the WNBAPA, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
You're not getting rid of unrivaled and what I've built
and created that.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
Is putting pressure on this league and is getting every
player paid two hundred and twenty two thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
I did hear though that when the broadcast was showing
all the signs right behind Team Clark's bench that said
pay the players. That commissioner, who was just literally dancing
with the stud buds two nights ago, was absolutely furious
that ESPN showed that on broadcast.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Kathy, yep, So it's it's fascinating, it's fascinating.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
I was just going to add on to what you
said about the Kathy thing, because I had also heard,
and I haven't seen the broadcast, but I had heard
that it was not that the players taking and showing
that pay us. What it was was not shown on
the broadcast.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
The T shirts were not shown.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
That's true. That's what someone told me. Editing Sarah here.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
I did fact check this, and it turns out ESPN,
while they didn't show the shirts live, Holly Road did
do a segment later on detailing the shirts and the
status of the CBA agreement.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
So while it wasn't shown live, it was covered later on.
Got back to the episode. I do think that, I mean,
she was talking at the end giving you know, giving
out the MVP team fee won by a but Joe,
I think it was like twenty point margin.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Caitlin Clark, by the way, was was she was losing
her shit.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
Basically, we were right and behind her, and since I
had money on the game, I felt like me and
her were simpatico with what we were seeing. This is
the benefit of betting on games, actually is you get
to see the things that you to actually feel the decisions,
having the magnitude and the weight on the outcome.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
And it's like, why is Asia Wilson just not gonna play?
Barely played it all. I should have known. I told
you as soon as I saw her in warm ups.
Speaker 3 (51:45):
Asia Wilson has a lot of makeup on. This is
not I'm ready to play in an All Star game
a matter of makeup. She's like a I am hanging
out out on the bench. She was hurt, she had
risk issues. We didn't know that until we didn't know
that until the game was gone going on.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
We didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
You had Britney Sykes who barely played. You had, you know,
just multiple oh Jackie Young.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
To Leah Boston pulling up from the logo every five seconds.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
I was losing my shit. Sandy Brondelo's rotations were just rough.
Caitlin's yelling being like, this is fucking bullshit. Sandy Brondelo,
the head coach for Team Clark, just laughing, smiling, ha
ha ha, No, no, Sandy Brondelo put somebody in the
game that can get a bucket or defend.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
It was like a layup line for Team Fee. And
by the way, how did we not even notice that?
Speaker 3 (52:38):
It was basically Yukon team Yukon versus everybody? The Yukon cartel.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Continues, Yeah, you don't seem to have anything to say
about that.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Hasn't it always been that way? I mean, hasn't it
always been Yukon versus the world?
Speaker 2 (52:56):
Now? I was in the All Star game format?
Speaker 3 (52:58):
Did you see that Brionnist We gave the ball to
Kiki eria Fin after she bricked at three, which, by
the way, she should not be shooting either. In addition
to a Leah Boston wasn't even on her same team,
got the rebound games running down to a close team
Fees beating that ass, and she's like, here you go, kid,
here's here's another shot.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
Like it's a like a practice situation. It's cute, and
she made it.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
She made the three.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
She did make it as time expired.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
It was like with like one with like one second
left on the clock. It was a it was a
fun it was a fun moment.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
Cute moment.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
Let's wrap this up. Give me your final thoughts, give
me your final thought on the weekend, what you saw,
you know, just a general observation and don't make it
about yourself.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
Okay. Wow.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
My takeaway is that this is going to be the
seminole moment in the w NBA where it becomes one
of the most popular events in all of sports. I
think this is going to go and Huger and Huger
and Huger. I think the stud Bud stream is a
big reason for that. I think we're gonna get more
(54:05):
of those, like twenty four hour long streams. We're gonna
get more personalities becoming themselves and showcasing the behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
We're gonna get more merched.
Speaker 3 (54:14):
We saw the WNBA Live Center, which we actually didn't
go into, but like there's brands and stuff in there,
I think, and I saw it in the airport.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
Everybody was wearing their Round twenty one shirts.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
Which by the way, I lost my card again at
the event, which I don't know if I'll.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Ever get back, and.
Speaker 3 (54:30):
So yeah, I think that will be sort of the
moment where the WNBA exploded, and it may be is
never gonna be the same way it is and I
hope it never gets corporate, but a lot of leagues,
I think, need to take notes on how this event
was done.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
It really made me feel really good about where the
women's game is, you know, fan base wise, growth wise,
accessibility wise. It made me feel really good about where
we are as women in sports and where these athletes are.
And I think that my bold prediction is that in
(55:07):
five years from now, we're gonna have athletes on the
women's side that are more of household names than anyone
on the men's side, because the men lose steam where
the women gain it. And I think that's in personalities,
in person in accessibility, in you know, relatability. Men a
(55:30):
lot of these male athletes are these people on pedestals
that are untouchable, that live in mansions that you'll never
be able to afford, and drive cars that you'll never
see on the road, where watches that you don't even
can't even buy. And these women's athletes are people who
are on the street doing live streams that you can
walk up to and say, hey, I'm a big fan
(55:51):
of yours, and I think that's what's gonna make and
break the women. I think that's not break. I think
that's gonna be what makes the women's sport. And I
think the worst thing because we heard a lot of
rumblings about how, you know, big media was not happy
with the stud Buds live stream or that you know,
and by big media, I mean the you know, the
networks with three or four letters. And I think that
(56:14):
the worst thing that the WNBA or any sports league
or any network could do is shut down this accessibility
and things like that, because I think that that is
what makes the game so appealing to so many people.
And I think that there were so many people in
our comments, in the stud Buds comments and on anything
that I saw of them that said they made me
(56:36):
a fan of women's basketball this weekend.
Speaker 3 (56:39):
Thank you to everyone who followed us on Instagram this weekend.
We surpassed our goal of getting to ten thousand by
the time I landed from Indianapolis at the end of
All Star weekend. We are as we sit right now,
ten three hundred followers, So.
Speaker 2 (56:59):
It's fucking soon. S Cool.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
I'm very humble, and so Sarah. I would imagine chime in, Sarah,
you can cut me off now.
Speaker 1 (57:07):
I was just gonna say, I'm really excited. We got
a big week ahead, some really big interviews ahead this
week that I'm excited to bring our costunity. It's only
gonna get bigger from here, So subscribe, like join us,
do all the things because we're not going away anyway.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
Great show, everybody. I know my laptop is being trash
right now.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
So if you're watching this on YouTube and I'm delayed,
forgive me for all the bad facial expressions that I
get caught with and for me stepping on Sarah or
Sarah accidentally stepping on me.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
But I appreciate y'all. We appreciate y'all.
Speaker 3 (57:41):
We will be back with a bonus episode later this
week to preview the Euro Finals.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
In the meantime, Sarah and in the words of the
stud Buds.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
Letters, I'm not hot heah, I'm i hotter.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
I get anything out want. This is my world. I
make big moves. Excused since the day that I was
going to mean a meet him.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
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