April 30, 2025 • 54 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in to let her shoot. Episode four made it
through four whole episodes. Well, we've made it through three.
Letter If we make it to the.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah, let her shoot a women's sports pod, just in
case you are wondering what the letter shoot meant. Let
her shoot baskets, let her shoot goals, let her shoot guns,
let her shoot golf balls. I don't care. I mean,
if you want to shoot guns, I don't care. As
long as she's responsible, let her shoot responsibly, let her
shoot sponsored by the NRA.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Let's definitely not do that.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You'd take the NRA's money if it was let her
shoot responsibly. Tell me if they said we'll give you
five million to be sponsored by the NRA and you
had to say, welcome to let her shoot responsibly.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
No, I don't think so. Not if it was presented
by the NRA.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
No, just say, just say. And if you.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Really like tiny little letters and like an AR fifteen
in the corner, absolutely not, No, you don't.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
This is brilliant. And then and then we would have
the highlights and it would be like and it was
like they shoot made you look and it'd be like
the letter Shoot segment sponsored by NRA. In terms of
who's really shooting. Well, we've got a lot of we're
gonna we're gonna talk about the chevron later. And they
were not shooting responsibly. No, there they were chunking, chunking responsibly.
(01:25):
That's like when you have a gun and then you
try to shoot it and it jams. That was what
our girl did when she had the wedge in the
hand and she whift chunked.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
People have to talk offline about that, because I don't
know if that's gonna be a thing for me, But
to each their own, I guess I'd say.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Why don't we just go in rapid fire and talk
about the news the rapid Fire segment sponsored by the harp.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You're killing me. I feel we need to make a
statement for the fact that, like, actually.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'm not pro guns. I'm not pro guns.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I feel like we just need to specify that.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Like I don't I don't know if you can tell
in my tone, but I'm totally around okay, Like I really,
I really was just thinking about ways to empower women
with shooting all kinds of balls, and then the guns
just kind of came out, So what about skeat shooting?
Maybe I meant skeet shooting. Let her skeet skeet sk ski.
This is gonna be a delicious intro. Come on, can
(02:24):
we get into the headlines. You're really setting us back.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I've said, you just said let her skeet and then
proceeded to say I'm setting us back, but.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
You're distracting us. Can we get to these topics.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, let's get to these topics, so quick, headlines across
women's sports. So the London Marathon, which, to be fair,
I didn't know much anything about this, but I I
don't want to butcher her name, but from what I
heard through the announcers was tigs to Cepha sounds right, okay.
(02:59):
So from Ethiopia. She won silver at this event in Paris. Well,
she won silver in Paris, not this exact event, obviously,
but she set the fastest ever women's only marathon record
time of two hours, fifteen minutes and fifty seconds, not the.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Two hours, two hours is sixteen minutes, which we'll call
it is fucking fast. For twenty six miles.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I have the fastest I've ever gone twenty is.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Not at all is in a car. Car is in
a car. I've never done twenty six miles either I've
done I've done fifteen. What's the longest you've ever run
in your life in one spot? Like one sitting? This
is gonna this is gonna be still very tell us.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, you remember those miles that they used to make
you run as a kid.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, like the Presidential Award or whatever they would.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Make challenge, the Presidential challenge.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So you've never you've never run longer than one mile?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, I'm sure I have. I just couldn't tell you
what it was. First of all, I'm not a runner.
I tore a ACL it pops when I walk now,
So now I don't run. No, I bike or do walk,
treadmill walk, I do the whatever the like Incline thirty yeah,
whatever that thing is.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah Incline you people on the trip Yeah nice.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
No, No, there's like a there's like a system. It's
like thirty twelve, ten or I don't remember what the cool.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So let's talk about another topic that I know very
little about, the UWCL final.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
The UWCL. Yeah, I don't know a ton about it either.
We're just rolling this the headlines. We don't know a
ton about section.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, I think, I mean we have to give these
ladies are shine. Even if it's not the sports that
we always watch and listen, these headlines might get me
into watching.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I think that there is in a world of gatekeeping
in terms of like women's sports, that if you're not
an expert on this sport.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So stop, don't talk about it. Just stay in your kitchen,
talk about it.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Just stay in your lane, stay in your kitchen. And
I don't think that that's a way to grow them in sports.
So I think we butcher names. We learn about them,
people tell us that we're wrong. The next time we
know better.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I like it, So, okay, so what have you?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Those glasses on the map episode.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Can take them off? I was just laughing so hard
about my NRA segment idea that I needed my eyes
to calm down.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
The light. The light was kind of reflecting back at me.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Got it. It was like a seizar trigger.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, a season see like the salad.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Anyway back to Barca versus Arsenal.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So barka uh barka Arsenal. This is Arsenal's first uw
CL finals is two thousand and seven. Coming back from
a two to one in Game one against Leon to
win four to one. Six three. I don't understand this.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So yeah, so they and then Barka beat Chelsea twice
for one four one, which is an eight to two aggregate.
Got it, I know now, you know?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Now? I know now I didn't know. So even if, like,
even if Chelsea had won the second game, they would.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Have seen the aggregate score that matters more. Yeah, I
think the only thing that matters is the aggregate. So
you could get smoked. You get smoked, and then you
could win six to zero in the next match.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
And you would win, right, But if you won two one.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Then you would not yet you would lose exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Got it. Okay, that makes sense, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So it's kind of fun actually because then you know, hey,
like I really need to step it up the second match.
Can I be done for a second? At first, I'm
just gonna can I? Can I be vulnerable? I was like,
what's the UWCL, And I was like, oh, that's the
Champions League. I know, the Champions League. I just don't
hear anybody calling it the u w CL is kind.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Of no nerdler. Champions League Final. Yeah, Champions League Final.
I know, I think I hear much of like any
of I mean, maybe people do, but I think it's
always pretty much shortened the Champions League.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, even in the men's side. Well, exciting stuff for Barcelona,
Bartholona and Arsenal. Let's move forward. What's the next on
our list?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So Bethune returned for the Washington Spirit and the most
I mean, it was a bad game. I'm not gonna
lie to you. I watched that game. It was It
was a curb stomping is what it was. Complete curb
stomping on Washington.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
You know what was crazy though, is that they like
knew that they didn't have it that day. They were like, yeah,
because they played I didn't know Gotham. They played Gotham FC, right,
and Kroy Bufthune's coming back. It's all exciting. And this
team I think kind of overlooked Gotham. They're like, we
don't really need to do much and then they got destroyed. Yeah,
(07:34):
and they even said and I was reading from the
post because you know, I'm an intellectual, and the quotes
were like, yeah, we kind of overlooked them a little bit.
We didn't think they had it like that. I So
did you see that it was Lesbian Visibility Day the
other day and they I don't know if you saw
that Ashlyn Harris, who probably put people. Everybody knows Ashton Harris. Anyway,
(07:55):
Ashton Harris and Sophia Bush did a photo shoot and
then Ashland Harris posted on Instagram this like long diatribe
about it. Did you see it?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah? Yeah I did. I saw it. I saw it
because there is never a time that Ashland Harris will
If there's an opportunity for Ashland Harris to get preachy,
she's gonna get preachy. That's what she's gonna do.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I read it for our viewers.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, you can read it all right.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So Ashland Harris twenty four, which, by the way, is
the sign that you were not famous when you made
your Instagram. Nobody knew who you were. Anytime there's a
number after your name, when you make your handle on
any social media, you were not thinking you were gonna
be famous when you made that Instagram because nobody does.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
It was her number. It was her number, to be fair,
you didn't have a number.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I have a number. I played basketball.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I was ten, okay, but I'm saying like I was.
Morgan was am thirteen was but it's a thing. I
was just saying it's a thing in soccer.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Okay, your number anyway, Well it's dumb anyway, So she
puts Axcelyn Harris twenty four puts a photo here. It is.
I'll put it here so you can see it. You
can put the be roll right there. We're not here.
First of all, there's like these Queen of Mary stones
on her lapel and the like ivory from an elephant,
and probably this like Swarowski necklace anyway, and Sophia Bush's
(09:21):
got her hand wrapped around the neck, which is just
like so such an odd place to hold somebody right
on the trap anyway says we're not here to be palatable.
We're not here to shrink. We're here to We're here
to take up space in every room, on every stage,
in every story. Our love is radical, our joy is rebellion,
(09:44):
our existence unstoppable. Today on Lesbian Visibility Day, we don't
just ask to be seen. We dare you to look.
So there's forty four thousand likes on it, so that
means there's a lot of views on this.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And you might say a lot of Sophia Bush fans
out there.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Well, and just people interested in them, right, and there's
a thousand shares. I am one of those shares. If
I am one of those shares. Anyway, if you wonder, Tristan,
why are there only fifteen comments and they're all positive? Well,
comments are still limited to all of.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
It's been over a year and comment listen. Here's sort
of my viewpoint on it. Like if you all want
to go be happy, then like, just go and do it.
It's been a year. Like just you know what you did,
what you did. You did what you did, and you're
not gonna get the love from the fans back and
(10:44):
so bullying it into them. You're not gonna it's not
gonna do it. I don't know why. She's like, we're here,
we're queer, and it's like, yeah, we know. That's the problem,
Like you're here, that's the issue.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Our love is radical, Our joy is rebellion.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Your lovely thing radical about your love is that you
did it while you were married. Like that's the issue here.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Let's be honest. I don't really I don't know if
I want to say this, but I'm just gonna say.
Sophia Bush ending up in a full blown relationship with
Ashlyn Harris after she was married to a whole man,
because the People magazine really did try to finesse us
societally into being like their love story is so cute
because I remember exactly where I read it. I was
(11:32):
on in my backyard. I don't know why I had
it or why I read it. Maybe I saw something
on Instagram and I clicked on it. Anyway, so I'm
sitting outside a beautiful day and I'm reading this and
it's all about how they met each other through mutual
friends in a support group setting, and that they were
both going through issues with their other spouses and how
(11:53):
they met. I know, hold on, I'm just gonna tell
you what People Magazine said.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I'm just telling you.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I know, I know People Magazine said. So they basically
were like, well, Sophia was already divorcing her husband, and
Ashland had already divorced her wife and had already gone
through that process and was just like a little baby
bird helped shepherding, like, you know, here's Sophia and in
her hands, she was just nursing her back to life.
(12:19):
And in that nursing, Sofia Bush was like, you know what,
I'd be down. That's kind of how she made it
sound she was like, I'm not I didn't become a lesbian.
It was something along those lines. Don't quote me, but
it was like, I just fell in love with Ashland.
We just fell in love with each other because we
were both going through hard times and she had gone
through it before, and my friends knew that, and so
they just introduced us for that modern day Romeo and Juliet.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Which so in the real story is that they've known
each other for years. Sophia commented on the photos of
their wedding and was Sophia owns part of a soccer
or owned I don't know if she still does or not.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
But acquaintances at that point like maybe, sure, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
That's possible. But we all really know that what happened
was they were at Can's together.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I think there's no US in Can. I mean there is, yes,
it's can Can. I mean there s is there, but
it's not there, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Like she yeah, So what happened is Ashland went to
Can with Sue Bird. Something went down, we don't know,
and she came home and asked for a divorce. That's
what we know based on the other side of the story.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
All the comments are like my loves love you too,
absolutely gorgeous, love you both madly, and it's like, clearly
she's only allowing certain people to comment on that because.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
It's she'll always have it that way. Do you remember
do you remember? Probably yeah, definitely forever. Do you remember
when they first got together and she took mother out
of her bio.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
But no, I don't remember that she.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Had in her like Instagram bio like wife and mother,
and she deleted mother.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
But she didn't delete.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
No, she deleted wife, and then she tried to go
back and like added in subtly that she like was
a mother again, and everyone was like, it's so bad.
I just don't know what she's doing.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
But so the thing is too And I know you
probably shouldn't say this on wax because like you only
really tell each other this in person, And I think
maybe this will go do well on TikTok. So maybe
this is why I'm actually voicing this true opinion is
like the truth is, if they didn't meet the way
that they met, they'd be pretty adorable and loved couple.
(14:37):
There's times you seem into each other.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, there's times that I see them that I'm like, oh,
and then no, no, no, I can't think you yeah, no, toxic.
But I want to think they're cute. I really do,
because I think we need more adorable LGBT, queer, lesbian,
and gay, whatever word you want to use love stories
out there. I want them to have one.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And her and Ali were like the poster child for
the words power couple and for that to come crashing
down the way that it did and for her to
break Ali's heart. But also I had to tell my
mom all the lore because I was like, I saw
it when I sent it to you, and I was like, ugh,
her comments are limited and my mom was like what
And I was like, Okay, before I tell you, I
(15:22):
have to like tell you why this is funny. And
so I told her the whole story and she's like, no,
well you know, and I'm like, yes, exactly. And then
and then and then she went on a podcast with
a friend of show, Carrie Champion, and then she basically
was like, oh, yeah, our bedroom was dead, and so
like I had to find love and warmth in other places.
(15:43):
She just went cold on me, and everybody was like
or Ali's dad was in hospice and she was dying
for two years and maybe she wasn't like thinking about
ways to turn you on, and like maybe just want
to give her a break. She's also helping raise the
kids that you guys have. What the fuck? And my
mom was like, oh my god, I know someone just
like that. And retiring and retired and going through retirement.
(16:05):
There's so much to unpack.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
There's so much to unpack. And I do, I do
wish that they had the ability to be cuter, but
they just don't.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And what I would say is this is definitely like
split from like the lesbian community and the completely straight community,
because if you talk to straight people, they're like, oh yeah,
like Ashlon Harris and like Sophia Bush cool, and lesbians
are like, oh yeah, we fucking hate her. We ride
at midnight, we we storm. It's like yo, whoa Okay,
(16:33):
like whoa? She is single one, Yeah, she has sown.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
She was disinvited from Pride, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
And if you even mention anything to a lesbian, anything
positive about Ashton, they are ready to block you.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah they are. Yeah, you gotta be really careful about that.
And out out in the Rainbow streets, you can't. You
can't be like.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, which is kind of interesting because there are some
very prominent lesbian voices that are big fans of Ashland
on social media, and I'm like, oh, you fuck with Ashland.
It's really like there's a lot and people I like, yeah,
Ari Chambers, you fuck with Ashland.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I didn't know. Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot.
I do wonder if there's like a lot more to
the story than we know, because of how many people
that I like and respect.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
So I'm like exactly here.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
But I mean, while I don't have the information, I
still have to be team Ali.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I know, hopefully Ali's not the villain in the story
and we find out like ten years down the road. No, listen,
I'm just saying. I'm just saying. If we don't know
the whole story and we're riding for team Allei, no
matter what, Ali, don't let us down.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
No, it's that we were rooting for you.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Hey, we're rooting for you. Do not let us down.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
You gotta tell me, You're gonna tell me about this
whole this whole draft drama.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, oh yeah, so that's so Rakia. I don't know.
Do you know anything about Rakia?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I mean, I know that she plays for the Sparks.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, Rakia Jackson, she's gorgeous. Yeah, she's awesome. She's gorgeous.
So she played at Tennessee, m Mississippi State, and so
she got spotted with her boyfriend when James Pearce when
he ended up getting selected by the Atlanta Falcons, and
people were like, is that is that Rikia Jackson right there?
And even Rikia posted online and she was like, he
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went to Tennessee as well. So they met when she
was at Tennessee and she was like, oh, it looks
like I have a doppel ganger. And it's like, no,
that's you, Rikia. So everybody is calling it like they're
basically saying she pulled in Asia Wilson and her and Bam.
So I don't know if you remember, but.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I don't know anything about this.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
So Asia Wilson is dating a Miami heat NBA player,
Bama Claire.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I know who Asia is. I don't know who Bam.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
You don't know Bam is obviously yeah with all the
m NBA. So anyway, Asia Wilson and bam Adebayo have
been spotted out a lot. People have taken photos of them.
They're like, are they just friends or like, what's going on?
And then they went out over to Paris together for
the Olympics because they're both Olympians. And at that point
I think they had been together probably or at least
(19:07):
been thought to be together for a while. And then
when Bam came back where they both came back to
the United States, the mayor of Miami gave Bam McKey
to the city and when Bam showed up for that
press conference, Asia Wilson was there in the stands and
the Mayor's like, Asia, Asia Wilson, you're with your man.
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Like people were like, did this Miami marriage just hard
launched this couple. I don't think they're out yet.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Out of them?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, she she outed them. And then Asia Wilson had
her jersey retired, and at that ceremony, Bam was there.
And then when Asia's shoes got released, when she had
the as Asia ones came out, Bam was wearing them
in the pink colorway. So they're out together. And even
during the Dwayne Wade, who's another NBA player who may
(19:57):
not know, Dwayne Wade, who's a former miam Heat player,
when he got a statue built of him, Asia Wilson
There's this famous of meme that went around where Asia
Wilson was like had her hand over her mouth and
she was basically like, ooh, that Dwayne Wade's statue is fugly.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I remember seeing that.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, yeah, so they're they're a celebrity couple that. I
don't think they met in college though, because Bam went
to Kentucky and Asia went to South Carolina. I think
they just met in the in.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
The sports, people know each other because everyone knows each other.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
So anyway, exciting stuff. The Sparks should be a fun team.
Ricky has got to get back to business now that
training camp has opened. Kelsey Plumb is already saying, hey,
this Sparks team was trash. I know, We've got some
work to do. That's the reason that I'm here. And
I was like, oh baby, that's some words. That's and
we have a lot of new coaches that are taking
over these WNBA teams a lot. I forget how many
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new coaches have come in, but it's over half the
league and so it's gonna be exciting to see how
these new coaches take over the teams, how they inste
all new offenses, you know, make teams more exciting the Fever.
For one, Obviously, you probably want to keep your eye
on because Stephanie White is there, who's a former Fever
player now the head coach. She was the Connecticut Sun
head coach. And Caitlyn Clark is already saying that she
(21:14):
feels rested and ready to go. So that's your WNBA
training camp specific training camp news.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
So WNBA training camp. What have you seen out of
it so far that that you're liking. I mean, I
saw some playful jabs between Djana and Page going around.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Just the Page experience is going to be awesome. She's
super likable. I think when she had her press conference too,
they were asking her questions and then they finished up
and she was like, that's it. That's all you guys got.
And I think she realizes now that it's a totally
different beast than Yukon. She's probably held there for an hour,
so her and Dja are going to be awesome. Like
I said, Caitlyn Clark says that she's been basically in
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the Fever facility since the season ended, and she's been
resting and recovering but also working out with her teammate.
So I think we're headed for some very special Caitlin
Clark like stuff with a bunch of new teammates that
should be really fun to watch as well. And then
I think what was also interesting was that the Chicago
Sky had a preseason sort of scrimmage game and then
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they couldn't play it on the WNBA couldn't figure out
how to distribute it, so we all had to just
watch it on social media because the w has a
hard time figuring out how to get their product to
people for some unknown reason.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
But they just announced it before we recorded this that
all preseason games are going to be televised, I.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Hope, So get it together, Get it together. And then
on top of that, here's another crazy story in terms
of the WNBA trading camp. Maybe it's just like an
entire headline show because we're just going through it. Kennedy Carter,
who was actually a top fifteen guard in the league
last year. She's not going to play in the WNBA,
which we kind of knew. WNBA fans knew. She's going
to Mexico, to the best league in Mexico, Adelitas.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
D Chuaha, I want to chiuaa. I really wanted chiuaha.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Just stuff which by the way chihuahuah is known for
their cheese. Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
If they were known for their dogs, that's just.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
A breed of dog. But Chihuahua cheese, Mexican Lega Nasci
and all Dale Balan sesto.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
All right, But I want to hear more about Kennedy Carter.
Why she's not Why is.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
She not playing? I think the rap on Kennedy is
that she's a tough teammate to have a tough player
to deal with somebody that I don't want to call
her a cancer in the locker room, but that was
kind of the vibe that we've seen. She's threatened to
fight her own teammates. She's been suspended from multiple teams.
(23:35):
She's been released from teams that needed her offense, like
the Atlanta dream The Atlanta Dreams Dreams not a good team,
and they were like, we'd rather have no guard than
Kennedy Carter. So we'll do a deep dive on her
very soon. But I think really it's off the court issues,
but really personality issues that she has that's keeping her
really out of the w all together. If she had
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the personality of Pagebeckers, she'd be a different story. Yeah, yeah,
like exact same game as as Kennedy Carter has, but
with the personality of Djna or Page or Lexi Hole
or whatever, anybody but Kennedy Carter, she'd be in the
league right now.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
There's just not enough roster spots to have someone like
her in the world.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
She's one hundred percent better than Hailey van Lyth. Like
she is and Hailey Vanlyff is playing for her former team,
she would run circles around Hailey van Lyth, and I
like Hailey Vanlyth. But that's kind of what we're talking about.
If she was Hailey Vanlyth in terms of personality, she
would be playing for the Chicago Sky.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Still, how bad of a personality do you have to
have to be that good and get black belt?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Pretty bad? I mean, I think when she's talking about
putting hands on teammates, she's coming after the queen and
Kaitlyn Kaylyn Clark saying ho all she does is shoot
deep threes. I think that's a problem. I think like
the physicality that she had was just one little element
of the issue. But really, we see all this stuff
happening on the court that's borderline, and we know you've
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also threatened to fight your own teammates before, so much
so that you've been kicked off the team and suspended
off of multiple teams. Do we really need all this?
We don't need all this. This is just kind of
ripping our team to shreds. And I think that was
what you saw why Teresa Witherspoon got fired from the
Sky and why Kennedy Carter was out of there. Why
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you saw Cleia Copper asked to be traded. Who's a
top guard in the league, who's playing for the Chicago
Sky when they won their championship. Why she wanted out
of there? Why Courtney Williams, another guard, didn't want to
play there. Kennedy Carter, from what I hear, has been
kind of the common denominator of that. So I think
you have to be really bad. I don't think Kennedy
Carter would ever play for Unrivaled. I don't think they'd
ever allow her to play there, which mean she'd be
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good enough to play.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I feel like if you're not one of the honorary inviteams,
then you're a veteran in the league, you're probably never
going to be Yeah, I would say if I had
to test, so speaking of teammates and vibes and how
I mean we now know officially that Malaysia for Wiley
is going to LSU. What are your thoughts on LSU
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now that we've got but we know that that's the roster.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I think it's gonna be electric. I think that's probably
the word that I would use the most. Is it
Floge and Malaysia together are gonna be fireworks. That's what
you're gonna see. But I think the thing that's very
fascinating to me as someone who has seen Kim Molke
up close, is when Kim Molki sees her players making
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dumb mistakes, she loses her fucking mind. She's like waving
them off, She's turning their back to them, she's screaming
at them, she's grabbing her own neck, she's you know,
hitting herself in the chest. She's doing all kuyds of
crazy things.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
She's smulky.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, she's pulled, like full melting down. And that happened
when LSU was playing UCLA and the Elite eight. So
I was like, Okay, what what is this going to be?
When Mileaysia turns the ball over four times in a row,
or she doesn't run the offense the way that Kim
Wallke wants, or she just goes and pulls up from
deep three seven straight times and you've gone seven straight
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possessions without scoring a bucket because Milesia's on a heat check.
I think it's gonna be an adjustment period for Malaysia.
And we also know that Kim Milk is not afraid
even for superstars to sit you down and not play
you for multiple games if you're not falling in line
with what she wants you to do. And she did
that with Angel Ree in Angels last year at LSU
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and we all wondered what was going on. There was
all kinds of rumors flying about and we never really
found out what the story was, but we know that
this is something Kim Milk will do. So as I'm excited,
I think Flage coming back is great. I think Milaysia
going to this team could be great, and I think
Kim Welki can sort of whip them into WNBA shape,
but I think get them in a place where maybe
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what Don Staley was doing, which is more subdued and
that kind of coaching was not working for Malaysia. Now
Kim Woke is more of an alpha pitbull, and maybe
my Leisia responds more to the stick than to the carrot.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
That's actually that was gonna be. My question was does
this actually maybe benefit her draft stock now that she's
got someone who could theoretically kind of like you said,
whipper into shape a little more than Dawn probably would.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
But I also think that Malaysia has to be very
careful because LSU has the number one overall recruiting class
and most of the players that are coming in our guards.
So Bella Hines I saw up close. Bella Hines was
the one that you saw. I don't know if you
saw this, but she was on YouTube cooking some YouTuber
one on one and then she did the the V
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with the just wanted to let everyone know where she
was at. She did on her finger.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
She was she didn't need to put the thumb the
thumb ring on.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
No, she need to put the thumb ring on or
like she wanted.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
To make it clear that she is not Hannah Hudolga up.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
So Bella Hines is a hooper. I saw her at
the Hoop Summit a few weeks ago, and she's awesome.
She pops off the page. She's a Jordan Brand athlete,
she has handles, she has mid range shots, she can
shoot from deep, she can do everything. And then Grace
Knox also played in that too. Grace Knox can dunk.
She's like a six foot one guard who can actually
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get up and yam on you. So I actually like
those two players. Kaya Johnson she's there too, Divine Barras
she's there. These are a bunch of players that will
challenge Floge and Malaysia for playing time. So I'm excited
to see how this goes. LSU is gonna be definitely
a must watch team throughout the entire season.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
LSU is losing a big star, not not on the
basketball court.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
But oh good segue on the line. Thanks, I like that,
I did, Thanks, So who's the star?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
So star? So they're losing some star power, not necessarily
in the basketball court space, but in the nil space.
Livvy Dunn announced her retirement from gymnastics this week, which
I mean, I don't think was like, that's not a surprise,
like we all need. Livy Dune was done with gymnastics.
She's exercised her five years of college and there's no
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professional gymnastics league, you know, to go to next.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
But I think basically, you only compete in the Olympics
or try to get to the Olympics, or you just don't.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, I mean unless you're Simonbiles, you know, college. Yeah,
that's what she was doing.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
She just was a pro pro Olympic gymnastics athlete. There's
no like on Saturdays we go to the mat and
we just like compete against one another.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, there's no like Yeah, there's no like Matt brawls,
you know, just every weekend. But I think the biggest
thing my take away from this, I did a little
bit of a deep dive on Livvy Dun. Was kind
of like a shallow dive, but a deep ish dive
on Livvy Dunn's impact on college sports, and I think
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that Livvy Dun has not gotten proper praise for her
impact on women's sports, college sports, all of sports.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I think there was an article in Yahoo where this
guy was basically saying that the only reason that anybody
knows Livy Done is because she's pretty and has a
TikTok account and is in good shape, which is sort
of ridonculous because there's plenty of people who are pretty
and are in good shape and have a pretty face
that have TikTok accounts in college, and none of them
have surpassed or even come close to what Livy Done
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has done online. She just figured out a way to
connect with an audience for something that was really organic
to her, which is kind of like you and your
story as someone who was in the equestrian space and
had to be homeschooled because you were an elite athlete,
is that you don't have a lot of friends, You're
not around a lot of kids your own age, And
she created this TikTok account to sort of find community
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and just like some of these other influencers have done,
like those twins forget their names, do you know who
I'm talking about? They've got the Duncan they got like
a little thing endorsement with Duncan, the original. They're like
the original TikTokers.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Oh I don't think they're twins.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Well they're sisters. Are they not sisters?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Don't they have like a TV show? They have a
TV Yeah, yeah they do. Are we talking about? Yeah?
They have a yeah, they have a show. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I think anyway, So like the Damellos, did they found
their way anyway? What a segue? What a random side road.
You can cut this part. But anyway, so Livy Dunn
found her way to a large audience because other high
schoolers and other college students wanted to have the same thing,
and she was engaging. And then she turned that that
audience into a huge payd.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
A fan base, and well she turned it into a
fan base. And I think that that's what's missing from
a lot of people's minds is Livy Dunn was still
an athlete, and she was still a competitive, successful athlete.
I mean, yes, there were years of school that she missed.
She had a lot of injuries. She had a knee
injury that really took her out of her final year.
But she was an All American her freshman season, and
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I think a lot of people don't ever really give
her the credit for what she did on the mat.
She has a national title. You can't take that away
from her. She was still part of a national championship
winning team. She was still an All American, she was
still very successful. She got a scholarship to the one
of the best teams in the program or in the
country for a reason.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, And I think there's probably the fan base didn't
really care that much about what she did on the mat,
or on the uneven bars or wherever she was competing.
And that's where I think people don't understand. When they
take into account ANIL, they want to make it like
you have to be successful in your sport. I mean,
and she was successful, but they want you to be perfect.
They want you to be Tiger Woods, they want you
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to be transformational, they want you to be Caitlin Clark.
Not every athlete's going to be that. But what I
would say is how she transformed NIL is that now
that the NIL ruling has come down and athletes can
benefit and get money from endorsements of their names, image
and likeness, you do not have to be the top
athlete in your sport in order to do that. You
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can just find a way to find an audience, and
that audience will turn into a payday and will be
self sustaining even though you can't go pro. So I
think that's why that's such a huge impact. Is that, Yes,
Reggie Bush, the player who played for USC in college football,
who lost his heisman because he was essentially benefiting from
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his name, image and likeness, Yeah, he was always going
to be that, But you're talking about a smaller sport
in the women's game, and this woman's probably a top
three and maybe not three paid athlete in college.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
This whole court case that's going on right now, this
lawsuit with the NCUBLEA and IL so basically to really
dumb it down, the NCUBA has said that a handful
of athletes are trying to get back pay from the
nc DOUBLEA for money that they feel that they've missed
out on that was it miscalculated for them in the past,
to overlooking certain aspects things like that, et cetera, et cetera.
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So they offer this two point eight million dollar settlement
and lyvia One reads it and goes, I'm worth more
than this, and women are worth that's.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Two point eight billion. She's not saying she's worth eight billion.
Whatever cut that they're going to give to every athlete
that meant this criteria, no matter what sport that they
were in, no matter what school that they went to,
if they're falling under this umbrella, everyone is going to
get the same, even though Livy is not the same.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
And her point not only to that was part of
this bill also that's not really being talked about as much.
Is it's going to set up a revenue sharing stream
for athletes in across sports as it's supposed to, and
I guess there's some language in there that undercuts the
value of women's athletes specifically because it's based on sponsorship,
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you know, is based on television rights deals, it's based
on you know, ticket price sales, things that are going
to benefit.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I think it overall mostly took the money and gave
it to basketball and football basketball, they gave them a
much smaller percentage of that two point eight billion dollars
was going to go to women's sports, and so Livy
obviously saw that and was like, that's but it's also.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Looking towards the future because it's looking at a revenue
sharing model for the future, and she's saying, this is
undercutting what women in the future are going to have
because you're putting more emphasis on football and basketball, men's
basketball than you are on the growing sports of gymnastics, softball, soccer,
all of those things that are in the women's space
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that are growing year over year. So I give Livy
done a lot of credit for fighting the good fight
for women in a way that she's not getting recognition for.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
So shout out to live done.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
We give her flowers, Yeah, we do.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
We give her her hell of a hell of a career. Livy.
I wish you were to stay healthy, but what you
did is a lot more impactful than just on the
uneven bars.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I agree. Let's move on uneven.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
You know it was uneven.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
She know what was uneven?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Little up and down.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Let's talk about let's talk about my favorite, my favorite sport,
the sport that gets the littlest attention of any of.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Them, the sport that's just so improperly managed, the sport
that should be bigger, the sport that has big purses
now and somehow nobody gives any sort of care or
concern for the future of that sport. So the LPGA
had a major. I don't know if you knew that,
I mean you did, I don't know if the people listening,
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the people out there.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
No, probably not, because in the last LPG.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Last week LPGA last weekend had a major called the Chevra.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
No, they probably didn't because NBC did not promote it.
I mean, I'm sure they did at some point in
some place, but it wasn't online, and it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
We didn't even know. Honestly, we were talking about, like
what's happening, you know where We're looking at something golf wise,
and we're like, hey, not only is there a major
this weekend, but Lexi Thompson has play.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
That to me was my whole chest, said, Lexi Thompson
is not playing in this major. Yeah. I was so
sure of that. So she retired. I watched her retire.
I remember the drama about her retiring. I mean, there
was there was a lot to it. I mean, there
was golf drama. It was drama in the golf world.
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I mean, but regardless, I knew that Lexi Thompson no
longer was playing on the LPGA tour. And then I
saw Lexi Thompson TeV time at eleven thirty, and I went, well,
let me go fact check this. So I went to
the LPGA social media pages, and you want to know
how much there was about it. Nothing, nothing, nothing.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
My goddamn thing, until she was.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
In contention, until she was in contention. And I want
to get back to Lexi in a second, but we
just have to talk about the overall shit show that
was this tournament's finish because Lexi was not in contention
towards the end, which was a bummer, But there were
five players that ended up in a playoff of this
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and probably what I would argue was maybe the biggest whiff,
if you want to say literally literal whiff, eventy second
hole whiff that I've ever seen in women's golf.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Yeah. So Aria Jutanna Guard had was ten under.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, so it.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Wasn't just the fact that she had one of the
worst last holes of all time. It was also in
fact she just kept melting down over the course of
the round. So she just needed to make par in
order to win the tournament, and she chunked it with
their wedge and missed the putt.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I would think we were talking at some point on
Sunday and you said, is this final round gonna be
worth me watching? And I said no, because the lead
right now is like two or three shots, And yeah,
it was her.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
It was Aria was like three shots in it.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah, it was like a three shot lead. And I
was like, and typically once the player gets on the
back nine and the LPGA with the three shirts, they're
on a heater, and they're on a heater, it's not
really going to change. I mean, they are laser they
are lasered into the greens.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I said to you, I said, you know, the reason
I like the PGA tour is I love to see meltdowns.
I love the unpredictability. I love seeing Jordan and Speeth
put two in the water and you're like, oh, man,
what's this about to be? The pressure mounts. And because
women are so accurate with their drivers, with their irons.
Same just in general, women are very accurate ball strikers
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when they're on tour. I mean, like even amateur women
just don't have nearly the amount of power or recklessness
that men normally do. And so when you are dialed,
it is like fucking lasers. Lasers, lasers. I've never seen
a woman pro with a chip.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Yeah, let's talk about what she did the eighteenth hole
at the Woodlands in Texas. So I've been to this course.
This is the first year that I actually have not
been on the grounds for the final round. Okay, I
don't have to have that reaction to it. So this
is the first time I haven't been there. This is
the first year that I haven't been there this the
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final hole is a par five over the water into
the final green, and it's super narrow on the back side.
And you've got maybe like six feet of rough of
like pretty thick, nasty rough on the back end before
you get to the grandstands. It's like it's a really
narrow little gap. So you have to go over the
water to get to it. And I would say nine
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times out of ten, the people who actually go for
the water go for the pin because the pin is
tucked back on the left side of the hole, and
the people who go for that pin either flye it
way over into the back into the rough, or they're
short into the water. You rarely ever get onto the green.
Other players will lay up and go the long way.
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So she goes for the pin. She's got a one
shot lead on the eighteenth hole, which is I think
kind of the most mind boggling decision that she made.
She has a one shot lead going into eighteen and
if she's worried at this point, like what the players
behind her are gonna do. But she goes to the
final hole and goes for two. She goes to the
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green and two, gets on the back, goes to chip it.
But as she's going to chip it, she's trying to
stub the ground just to I guess test the.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
But she she hit the volunteer on her approach. Yes
with it.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
No, that's what I'm saying, you know, I'm saying, I
don't know why she went for the green in two.
She had a one shot lead. That's what I was saying.
It's a got it. It's I don't know why she
didn't go to lay up and try to get a
birdie with the layup. I mean, that doesn't really Again,
she has a one shot lead, it's not a maazing.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Maybe she just thought, oh, okay, well I'm gonna I'm
gonna fly this this water anyway. The worst I can
do is a par the worst.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
A chip coming back down the hill though that they have.
So I mean, I'm also not a professional golfer, so
I don't have the touch around the greens that they do.
But so she goes to hit, she goes out, she
goes to chip down the hill, totally whiffs it like
the ball pop. I think that she thought that she
was clear of it and somehow just like I don't
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even think she meant to hit the ball there.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
I think, Oh no, I think she did. I think
she did. That was not a practice swing.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I think it was a practice swing.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
I do not think so.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
You don't think so.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
I think she You think that was a legit hit, Yeah,
I do. I think that the rough was thicker than
she anticipated, and she just fucking stubbed it. She just
stubbed the.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
She stubbed it, and it was I mean, it went
right back.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
It barely even moved.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
It just kind of like it just like popped up
and then came back in and then that was it.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
And then you could see that on any municipal course.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
I mean you could see me do that anytime I
played golf. That's a that's a shot. Accredible.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
It was incredible. And then what was also insane was
that Mile Sigo and Lindy Duncan were trying to get there.
They were in the last hole as well, and then
one of their uh playing partners ends up taking so
long to uh go over and see what she was
gonna do, to like confer with her caddie and figure
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it all out. Ryu and she was like, Okay, should
we take an extra club? Should we not? Nukes won
over the green and just ices these other two players
out that end up somehow still getting into the playoff.
Do you know how mad, I would.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Be probably pretty mad.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
In contention, and this other player that's not in contention
is icing.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Me probably pretty mad.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Oh bitch, can you guys get it together and just
figure it out? Come on anyway, I thought that was
really interesting, and then on top of that, it was
really sad because also Nelly Korda played pretty poorly, who
is kind of the darling.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, she did well. I will say this. I checked
the scores. I didn't watch Monday or not Monday Tuesday,
I didn't watch Thursday Friday, but I was checking the scores,
and at the end of at one point during the
Thursday round, I checked the score and I saw Nellie
Korda was like a hundred fourteenth and I.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Was like, she's seventy seven.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, she played terribly on on Thursday. I thought she
was gone. I thought she was done out of it.
I didn't think that she had even a prayer of
making the cut at that point. But then comes out
and shoots a sixty eight in the second round, makes
the cut. And then at one point on Saturday, I
look up and I'm like, oh, she's got She's like,
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I mean, she wasn't ever ever sniffing a win, but
she I was surprised to see that she at least
fought her way back to play the weekend because I
didn't expect it.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, so shot a sixty eight in the second round
as well. But I think just in general, there was
not enough promotion, not enough marketing.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Finding the tournament was a nightmare. The leaders teed off
at noon and you couldn't watch them until four o'clock
in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
I forgot to mention also, Ronnie In probably should have
won that tournament too.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Oh yeah, let's go back to that. Because so Ronnie
In on the KPMG a couple of years ago, right,
that was twenty twenty three the KPMG. She's a fantastic golfer.
The shot that she hit, so I guess this is
kind of my point on that last hole, on that
eighteenth hole, that second shot she hit on eighteen was
probably one of the best shots I've seen all year.
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I mean, that was, if not the best, I mean,
that was equivalent, like you're talking about, like the shot
that defines around. Had she made that putt on eighteen
to win, that's better than Rory's shot on fifteen at
the Masters when he won. That's better. I mean that
is that is that type of shot that she hit.
I mean, she two shot, like I said, almost never
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get it at the pin. She lands it right at
the front of that hole, rolls it up, She's got
like five feet for eagle coming back down to hell
twelve footer, twelve footer, and she still like still still.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Not an easy put. But it wasn't that she needed
to make eagle.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
She made two put She needed to two put Yeah, yeah,
she she only needed to two putt and she three putted.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Which there was a lot of people who thought that
Ronnie in was gonna win that tournament, Like right around
the Saturday Saturday night coverage, they kind of said, oh well,
she could be easily the one that wins this whole thing.
So just a tough scene for a few women's golfers
that sort of melted down. And I was listening to
the i think the Golf Channel or golf dot com
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coverage and they said that Sigo didn't win. She just
she just was the only one to come out alive
in the carnage.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, I mean, she made kind of not an easy
birdie on that hole, but even five players and she's
the only one that birdie to par five on the
playoff to win, which you don't expect only one out
of five to birdy that hole that's a birdie or
eagle hole. It's not a it's not a parbo eagle.
So that was shocking to me. But this is now
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the second time at this event, this location, not this event,
second time at this location that it's gone into a
playoff with a really heartbreaking ending on eighteen. I mean,
I guess we're gonna keep getting it here at the
Woodlands now that it's not.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
When we move on, because I know we're we almost
got to get a bat of here. I just want
to say for everyone on Wax Jack Nicholas is not
a good golf course designer.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Ooh hot, take No, he's not.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
He's not. Everything he does is always very tricked out.
Narrow here, random pop bunker there, random water here, waterfall there,
rock formation here, and it's like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (48:32):
There's a lot of Oh, I have to tell you
a funny story about this golf course.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Oh yeah, you told me that you were going to
tell me.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Yeah, so well you started to say when you texted me,
I said, what is what was the power of this course?
Because I couldn't remember, and you said, it's a seven
thousand yard course. It's massive, very back of the course. Hold.
I got to count eighteen, seventeen, sixteen, So on fifteen
there's a big water feature on fifteen, like a waterfall,
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little thing going on. So I was I was a
something nicklessy. So I'm out there and I'm on a
golf cart and like getting be rolling. All of a sudden,
I hear this like crack and then I hear the
horn and I'm like shit, and everyone starts going back
in and it's like crazy, crazy, crazy, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Really it was thunder and lightning.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
I thought it was thunder and lightning. So everyone goes
who's running back in? It's final round, and I'm like
out there trying to get a shot of this like
water feature because that's what I think I need to
be doing at that moment. And I go back to
getting the golf cart. Golf cart's dead. Golf cart just dies,
and I'm all the way back, all the way back
at the very end of the end of this golf course,
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and it's just me and the non working golf cart
and nobody else because everyone else is runningside for this
rain and I get stuck out there.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
How long were you out there for?
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Like thirty minutes?
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Hit?
Speaker 1 (49:50):
I hid, I had to like go high next to it. Yeah.
I was like, hey, somebody fucking helped me. I'm stuck
on fifteen. Could somebody please come pick me up? And
they were like, yeah, we're gonna send someone out, but
like we can't go out right now because of the weather,
so like you're gonna have to like hang in for
a second. So I'm like hiding behind the porta potty
(50:10):
in the very back in the woods, just like trying
to stay alive, stay alive. And that was my last
experience at Chevron. I think our bottom takeaway, bottom line
takeaway from the LPGA here is like we need to
see it more on TV. I think you even noted
like this is kind of how the WNBA used to be.
And now we're getting WNBA, you know, we're getting We're
(50:32):
like we are like we may as well be in
these training camps right now. We are getting so much
content coming.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Yeah, And I think it's like I remember in twenty twenty,
twenty twenty one that I would be like when is
when are these games on? And I'm like, right now,
there's a game on, where where can I find it?
It's like, are there betting lines? It's like nope, but
it's two hours before the game, is like, no betting lines.
I remember in the Wubble in the in whatever twenty twenty,
(51:00):
the Women's Bubble, Britney Griner just left out of nowhere
and nobody knew why, and nobody knew if she was
injured or if there was something else going on. I'm
just like, oh, yeah, she's not playing today, and it's like, well,
she's not playing at all because I think she had
to leave the bubble and then they never gave an infro,
and so I was like okay. And that's kind of
what I think is happening with the LPGA tour, where
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it's like it just kind of happens and nobody's telling
you about it in advance, and nobody's telling you where
it is or when you can access it. No one's
giving you any stories in real time. I'm seeing nothing
on social media until the thing is already over, and
it's like, okay, well, I would have been loving to
know that there was a straight meltdown happening with Arianna
(51:46):
guard Tanna guard. I wish I could be liked be
like I'm not saying a D. I thought I heard
a D, not saying a D. Anyway, I would have
liked to be like melt alert. Hey, this girl's melts
down right now. Hey, like you should too in on
peacock or on heyc Hey it's on, like hey, we're
on hey, or we're coming on like it will be
on Thursday, or like.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Hey, we have golf in general, Because I'm gonna tell
you not easy to find.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
Also, you know what really will help it too, is
if these betting sites put this on their front page,
or these score sites like ESPN show that there's a
women's tournament. You cannot get to the LPGA until you
go to the other tab and then scroll all the
way down and look for women's and then look for LPGA.
That's too much work for me. That's too much work
for If it's too much work for me, it's too
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much work for anyone.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
It's too much work for anybody. And I think that
that they need to take a They need to take
a page out of the w page, page backers out
of the umba and start getting their girls, start putting
Nelly Korda on every screen you possibly can, because there's
no excuse for it at.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
This And if you want the sport to grow, then
invest in the promotion. And we see what happened when
and everybody said that about the WNBA, and there was
a lot of people who said, well, nobody cares about it,
and it's like, well, why don't we see if we
promote it, let's see how many people care. And there's
a lot of people who care. And I think that
could be the case for golf. And we won't know
either We won't know either way what the appetite is
(53:14):
for women's golf on a large scale until the resources
are put into promoting it and promoting the stars within.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
You can't order it. If it's not on the menu.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
You can't order it's not on the menu anyway. Awesome episode,
good stuff. We hit everything. We hit golf, we hit
women's college hoops, we hit the WNBA, we hit the NWSL,
we hit the Champions League. I mean, we really gave
you a little bit of bite size of everything, a
little a mooz booche. Next week we'll dive more in
a moose booh. Yep, we'll dive more into the WNBA
(53:42):
cuts are coming. It's the cut date. The cup date's cut.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
The cut line, cut, the cut line.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
The cut will be coming. We will give more information
about that. There'll be more news stories. Hopefully we get
some insight on what's happening with Trinity. But thank you'll yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
If we get any sort of update about that anytime soon,
but we'll see, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
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Speaker 1 (54:02):
A No, no, no, don't letter let her let her,
let her shoot, let her shoot responsibly. However she feels.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
Like, yeah, letters, let her shoot ski, let her shoot golf.
No again, let her shoot not that, okay, see you
next time. Thanks for letter shoot. You put music on
the tail.
Welcome in to let her shoot. Episode four made it
through four whole episodes. Well, we've made it through three.
Letter If we make it to the.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah, let her shoot a women's sports pod, just in
case you are wondering what the letter shoot meant. Let
her shoot baskets, let her shoot goals, let her shoot guns,
let her shoot golf balls. I don't care. I mean,
if you want to shoot guns, I don't care. As
long as she's responsible, let her shoot responsibly, let her
shoot sponsored by the NRA.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Let's definitely not do that.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You'd take the NRA's money if it was let her
shoot responsibly. Tell me if they said we'll give you
five million to be sponsored by the NRA and you
had to say, welcome to let her shoot responsibly.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
No, I don't think so. Not if it was presented
by the NRA.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
No, just say, just say. And if you.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Really like tiny little letters and like an AR fifteen
in the corner, absolutely not, No, you don't.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
This is brilliant. And then and then we would have
the highlights and it would be like and it was
like they shoot made you look and it'd be like
the letter Shoot segment sponsored by NRA. In terms of
who's really shooting. Well, we've got a lot of we're
gonna we're gonna talk about the chevron later. And they
were not shooting responsibly. No, there they were chunking, chunking responsibly.
(01:25):
That's like when you have a gun and then you
try to shoot it and it jams. That was what
our girl did when she had the wedge in the
hand and she whift chunked.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
People have to talk offline about that, because I don't
know if that's gonna be a thing for me, But
to each their own, I guess I'd say.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Why don't we just go in rapid fire and talk
about the news the rapid Fire segment sponsored by the harp.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You're killing me. I feel we need to make a
statement for the fact that, like, actually.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'm not pro guns. I'm not pro guns.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I feel like we just need to specify that.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Like I don't I don't know if you can tell
in my tone, but I'm totally around okay, Like I really,
I really was just thinking about ways to empower women
with shooting all kinds of balls, and then the guns
just kind of came out, So what about skeat shooting?
Maybe I meant skeet shooting. Let her skeet skeet sk ski.
This is gonna be a delicious intro. Come on, can
(02:24):
we get into the headlines. You're really setting us back.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I've said, you just said let her skeet and then
proceeded to say I'm setting us back, but.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
You're distracting us. Can we get to these topics.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, let's get to these topics, so quick, headlines across
women's sports. So the London Marathon, which, to be fair,
I didn't know much anything about this, but I I
don't want to butcher her name, but from what I
heard through the announcers was tigs to Cepha sounds right, okay.
(02:59):
So from Ethiopia. She won silver at this event in Paris. Well,
she won silver in Paris, not this exact event, obviously,
but she set the fastest ever women's only marathon record
time of two hours, fifteen minutes and fifty seconds, not the.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Two hours, two hours is sixteen minutes, which we'll call
it is fucking fast. For twenty six miles.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I have the fastest I've ever gone twenty is.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Not at all is in a car. Car is in
a car. I've never done twenty six miles either I've
done I've done fifteen. What's the longest you've ever run
in your life in one spot? Like one sitting? This
is gonna this is gonna be still very tell us.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, you remember those miles that they used to make
you run as a kid.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, like the Presidential Award or whatever they would.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Make challenge, the Presidential challenge.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So you've never you've never run longer than one mile?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, I'm sure I have. I just couldn't tell you
what it was. First of all, I'm not a runner.
I tore a ACL it pops when I walk now,
So now I don't run. No, I bike or do walk,
treadmill walk, I do the whatever the like Incline thirty yeah,
whatever that thing is.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah Incline you people on the trip Yeah nice.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
No, No, there's like a there's like a system. It's
like thirty twelve, ten or I don't remember what the cool.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So let's talk about another topic that I know very
little about, the UWCL final.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
The UWCL. Yeah, I don't know a ton about it either.
We're just rolling this the headlines. We don't know a
ton about section.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, I think, I mean we have to give these
ladies are shine. Even if it's not the sports that
we always watch and listen, these headlines might get me
into watching.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I think that there is in a world of gatekeeping
in terms of like women's sports, that if you're not
an expert on this sport.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So stop, don't talk about it. Just stay in your kitchen,
talk about it.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Just stay in your lane, stay in your kitchen. And
I don't think that that's a way to grow them in sports.
So I think we butcher names. We learn about them,
people tell us that we're wrong. The next time we
know better.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I like it, So, okay, so what have you?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Those glasses on the map episode.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Can take them off? I was just laughing so hard
about my NRA segment idea that I needed my eyes
to calm down.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
The light. The light was kind of reflecting back at me.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Got it. It was like a seizar trigger.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, a season see like the salad.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Anyway back to Barca versus Arsenal.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So barka uh barka Arsenal. This is Arsenal's first uw
CL finals is two thousand and seven. Coming back from
a two to one in Game one against Leon to
win four to one. Six three. I don't understand this.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So yeah, so they and then Barka beat Chelsea twice
for one four one, which is an eight to two aggregate.
Got it, I know now, you know?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Now? I know now I didn't know. So even if, like,
even if Chelsea had won the second game, they would.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Have seen the aggregate score that matters more. Yeah, I
think the only thing that matters is the aggregate. So
you could get smoked. You get smoked, and then you
could win six to zero in the next match.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
And you would win, right, But if you won two one.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Then you would not yet you would lose exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Got it. Okay, that makes sense, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So it's kind of fun actually because then you know, hey,
like I really need to step it up the second match.
Can I be done for a second? At first, I'm
just gonna can I? Can I be vulnerable? I was like,
what's the UWCL, And I was like, oh, that's the
Champions League. I know, the Champions League. I just don't
hear anybody calling it the u w CL is kind.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Of no nerdler. Champions League Final. Yeah, Champions League Final.
I know, I think I hear much of like any
of I mean, maybe people do, but I think it's
always pretty much shortened the Champions League.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, even in the men's side. Well, exciting stuff for Barcelona,
Bartholona and Arsenal. Let's move forward. What's the next on
our list?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So Bethune returned for the Washington Spirit and the most
I mean, it was a bad game. I'm not gonna
lie to you. I watched that game. It was It
was a curb stomping is what it was. Complete curb
stomping on Washington.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
You know what was crazy though, is that they like
knew that they didn't have it that day. They were like, yeah,
because they played I didn't know Gotham. They played Gotham FC, right,
and Kroy Bufthune's coming back. It's all exciting. And this
team I think kind of overlooked Gotham. They're like, we
don't really need to do much and then they got destroyed. Yeah,
(07:34):
and they even said and I was reading from the
post because you know, I'm an intellectual, and the quotes
were like, yeah, we kind of overlooked them a little bit.
We didn't think they had it like that. I So
did you see that it was Lesbian Visibility Day the
other day and they I don't know if you saw
that Ashlyn Harris, who probably put people. Everybody knows Ashton Harris. Anyway,
(07:55):
Ashton Harris and Sophia Bush did a photo shoot and
then Ashland Harris posted on Instagram this like long diatribe
about it. Did you see it?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah? Yeah I did. I saw it. I saw it
because there is never a time that Ashland Harris will
If there's an opportunity for Ashland Harris to get preachy,
she's gonna get preachy. That's what she's gonna do.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I read it for our viewers.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, you can read it all right.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So Ashland Harris twenty four, which, by the way, is
the sign that you were not famous when you made
your Instagram. Nobody knew who you were. Anytime there's a
number after your name, when you make your handle on
any social media, you were not thinking you were gonna
be famous when you made that Instagram because nobody does.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
It was her number. It was her number, to be fair,
you didn't have a number.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I have a number. I played basketball.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I was ten, okay, but I'm saying like I was.
Morgan was am thirteen was but it's a thing. I
was just saying it's a thing in soccer.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Okay, your number anyway, Well it's dumb anyway, So she
puts Axcelyn Harris twenty four puts a photo here. It is.
I'll put it here so you can see it. You
can put the be roll right there. We're not here.
First of all, there's like these Queen of Mary stones
on her lapel and the like ivory from an elephant,
and probably this like Swarowski necklace anyway, and Sophia Bush's
(09:21):
got her hand wrapped around the neck, which is just
like so such an odd place to hold somebody right
on the trap anyway says we're not here to be palatable.
We're not here to shrink. We're here to We're here
to take up space in every room, on every stage,
in every story. Our love is radical, our joy is rebellion,
(09:44):
our existence unstoppable. Today on Lesbian Visibility Day, we don't
just ask to be seen. We dare you to look.
So there's forty four thousand likes on it, so that
means there's a lot of views on this.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And you might say a lot of Sophia Bush fans
out there.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Well, and just people interested in them, right, and there's
a thousand shares. I am one of those shares. If
I am one of those shares. Anyway, if you wonder, Tristan,
why are there only fifteen comments and they're all positive? Well,
comments are still limited to all of.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
It's been over a year and comment listen. Here's sort
of my viewpoint on it. Like if you all want
to go be happy, then like, just go and do it.
It's been a year. Like just you know what you did,
what you did. You did what you did, and you're
not gonna get the love from the fans back and
(10:44):
so bullying it into them. You're not gonna it's not
gonna do it. I don't know why. She's like, we're here,
we're queer, and it's like, yeah, we know. That's the problem,
Like you're here, that's the issue.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Our love is radical, Our joy is rebellion.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Your lovely thing radical about your love is that you
did it while you were married. Like that's the issue here.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Let's be honest. I don't really I don't know if
I want to say this, but I'm just gonna say.
Sophia Bush ending up in a full blown relationship with
Ashlyn Harris after she was married to a whole man,
because the People magazine really did try to finesse us
societally into being like their love story is so cute
because I remember exactly where I read it. I was
(11:32):
on in my backyard. I don't know why I had
it or why I read it. Maybe I saw something
on Instagram and I clicked on it. Anyway, so I'm
sitting outside a beautiful day and I'm reading this and
it's all about how they met each other through mutual
friends in a support group setting, and that they were
both going through issues with their other spouses and how
(11:53):
they met. I know, hold on, I'm just gonna tell
you what People Magazine said.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I'm just telling you.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I know, I know People Magazine said. So they basically
were like, well, Sophia was already divorcing her husband, and
Ashland had already divorced her wife and had already gone
through that process and was just like a little baby
bird helped shepherding, like, you know, here's Sophia and in
her hands, she was just nursing her back to life.
(12:19):
And in that nursing, Sofia Bush was like, you know what,
I'd be down. That's kind of how she made it
sound she was like, I'm not I didn't become a lesbian.
It was something along those lines. Don't quote me, but
it was like, I just fell in love with Ashland.
We just fell in love with each other because we
were both going through hard times and she had gone
through it before, and my friends knew that, and so
they just introduced us for that modern day Romeo and Juliet.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Which so in the real story is that they've known
each other for years. Sophia commented on the photos of
their wedding and was Sophia owns part of a soccer
or owned I don't know if she still does or not.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
But acquaintances at that point like maybe, sure, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
That's possible. But we all really know that what happened
was they were at Can's together.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I think there's no US in Can. I mean there is, yes,
it's can Can. I mean there s is there, but
it's not there, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Like she yeah, So what happened is Ashland went to
Can with Sue Bird. Something went down, we don't know,
and she came home and asked for a divorce. That's
what we know based on the other side of the story.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
All the comments are like my loves love you too,
absolutely gorgeous, love you both madly, and it's like, clearly
she's only allowing certain people to comment on that because.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
It's she'll always have it that way. Do you remember
do you remember? Probably yeah, definitely forever. Do you remember
when they first got together and she took mother out
of her bio.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
But no, I don't remember that she.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Had in her like Instagram bio like wife and mother,
and she deleted mother.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
But she didn't delete.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
No, she deleted wife, and then she tried to go
back and like added in subtly that she like was
a mother again, and everyone was like, it's so bad.
I just don't know what she's doing.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
But so the thing is too And I know you
probably shouldn't say this on wax because like you only
really tell each other this in person, And I think
maybe this will go do well on TikTok. So maybe
this is why I'm actually voicing this true opinion is
like the truth is, if they didn't meet the way
that they met, they'd be pretty adorable and loved couple.
(14:37):
There's times you seem into each other.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, there's times that I see them that I'm like, oh,
and then no, no, no, I can't think you yeah, no, toxic.
But I want to think they're cute. I really do,
because I think we need more adorable LGBT, queer, lesbian,
and gay, whatever word you want to use love stories
out there. I want them to have one.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And her and Ali were like the poster child for
the words power couple and for that to come crashing
down the way that it did and for her to
break Ali's heart. But also I had to tell my
mom all the lore because I was like, I saw
it when I sent it to you, and I was like, ugh,
her comments are limited and my mom was like what
And I was like, Okay, before I tell you, I
(15:22):
have to like tell you why this is funny. And
so I told her the whole story and she's like, no,
well you know, and I'm like, yes, exactly. And then
and then and then she went on a podcast with
a friend of show, Carrie Champion, and then she basically
was like, oh, yeah, our bedroom was dead, and so
like I had to find love and warmth in other places.
(15:43):
She just went cold on me, and everybody was like
or Ali's dad was in hospice and she was dying
for two years and maybe she wasn't like thinking about
ways to turn you on, and like maybe just want
to give her a break. She's also helping raise the
kids that you guys have. What the fuck? And my
mom was like, oh my god, I know someone just
like that. And retiring and retired and going through retirement.
(16:05):
There's so much to unpack.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
There's so much to unpack. And I do, I do
wish that they had the ability to be cuter, but
they just don't.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And what I would say is this is definitely like
split from like the lesbian community and the completely straight community,
because if you talk to straight people, they're like, oh yeah,
like Ashlon Harris and like Sophia Bush cool, and lesbians
are like, oh yeah, we fucking hate her. We ride
at midnight, we we storm. It's like yo, whoa Okay,
(16:33):
like whoa? She is single one, Yeah, she has sown.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
She was disinvited from Pride, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
And if you even mention anything to a lesbian, anything
positive about Ashton, they are ready to block you.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah they are. Yeah, you gotta be really careful about that.
And out out in the Rainbow streets, you can't. You
can't be like.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, which is kind of interesting because there are some
very prominent lesbian voices that are big fans of Ashland
on social media, and I'm like, oh, you fuck with Ashland.
It's really like there's a lot and people I like, yeah,
Ari Chambers, you fuck with Ashland.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I didn't know. Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot.
I do wonder if there's like a lot more to
the story than we know, because of how many people
that I like and respect.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
So I'm like exactly here.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
But I mean, while I don't have the information, I
still have to be team Ali.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I know, hopefully Ali's not the villain in the story
and we find out like ten years down the road. No, listen,
I'm just saying. I'm just saying. If we don't know
the whole story and we're riding for team Allei, no
matter what, Ali, don't let us down.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
No, it's that we were rooting for you.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Hey, we're rooting for you. Do not let us down.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
You gotta tell me, You're gonna tell me about this
whole this whole draft drama.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, oh yeah, so that's so Rakia. I don't know.
Do you know anything about Rakia?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I mean, I know that she plays for the Sparks.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, Rakia Jackson, she's gorgeous. Yeah, she's awesome. She's gorgeous.
So she played at Tennessee, m Mississippi State, and so
she got spotted with her boyfriend when James Pearce when
he ended up getting selected by the Atlanta Falcons, and
people were like, is that is that Rikia Jackson right there?
And even Rikia posted online and she was like, he
(18:18):
went to Tennessee as well. So they met when she
was at Tennessee and she was like, oh, it looks
like I have a doppel ganger. And it's like, no,
that's you, Rikia. So everybody is calling it like they're
basically saying she pulled in Asia Wilson and her and Bam.
So I don't know if you remember, but.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I don't know anything about this.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
So Asia Wilson is dating a Miami heat NBA player,
Bama Claire.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I know who Asia is. I don't know who Bam.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
You don't know Bam is obviously yeah with all the
m NBA. So anyway, Asia Wilson and bam Adebayo have
been spotted out a lot. People have taken photos of them.
They're like, are they just friends or like, what's going on?
And then they went out over to Paris together for
the Olympics because they're both Olympians. And at that point
I think they had been together probably or at least
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been thought to be together for a while. And then
when Bam came back where they both came back to
the United States, the mayor of Miami gave Bam McKey
to the city and when Bam showed up for that
press conference, Asia Wilson was there in the stands and
the Mayor's like, Asia, Asia Wilson, you're with your man.
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Like people were like, did this Miami marriage just hard
launched this couple. I don't think they're out yet.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Out of them?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, she she outed them. And then Asia Wilson had
her jersey retired, and at that ceremony, Bam was there.
And then when Asia's shoes got released, when she had
the as Asia ones came out, Bam was wearing them
in the pink colorway. So they're out together. And even
during the Dwayne Wade, who's another NBA player who may
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not know, Dwayne Wade, who's a former miam Heat player,
when he got a statue built of him, Asia Wilson
There's this famous of meme that went around where Asia
Wilson was like had her hand over her mouth and
she was basically like, ooh, that Dwayne Wade's statue is fugly.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I remember seeing that.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, yeah, so they're they're a celebrity couple that. I
don't think they met in college though, because Bam went
to Kentucky and Asia went to South Carolina. I think
they just met in the in.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
The sports, people know each other because everyone knows each other.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
So anyway, exciting stuff. The Sparks should be a fun team.
Ricky has got to get back to business now that
training camp has opened. Kelsey Plumb is already saying, hey,
this Sparks team was trash. I know, We've got some
work to do. That's the reason that I'm here. And
I was like, oh baby, that's some words. That's and
we have a lot of new coaches that are taking
over these WNBA teams a lot. I forget how many
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new coaches have come in, but it's over half the
league and so it's gonna be exciting to see how
these new coaches take over the teams, how they inste
all new offenses, you know, make teams more exciting the Fever.
For one, Obviously, you probably want to keep your eye
on because Stephanie White is there, who's a former Fever
player now the head coach. She was the Connecticut Sun
head coach. And Caitlyn Clark is already saying that she
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feels rested and ready to go. So that's your WNBA
training camp specific training camp news.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
So WNBA training camp. What have you seen out of
it so far that that you're liking. I mean, I
saw some playful jabs between Djana and Page going around.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Just the Page experience is going to be awesome. She's
super likable. I think when she had her press conference too,
they were asking her questions and then they finished up
and she was like, that's it. That's all you guys got.
And I think she realizes now that it's a totally
different beast than Yukon. She's probably held there for an hour,
so her and Dja are going to be awesome. Like
I said, Caitlyn Clark says that she's been basically in
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the Fever facility since the season ended, and she's been
resting and recovering but also working out with her teammate.
So I think we're headed for some very special Caitlin
Clark like stuff with a bunch of new teammates that
should be really fun to watch as well. And then
I think what was also interesting was that the Chicago
Sky had a preseason sort of scrimmage game and then
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they couldn't play it on the WNBA couldn't figure out
how to distribute it, so we all had to just
watch it on social media because the w has a
hard time figuring out how to get their product to
people for some unknown reason.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
But they just announced it before we recorded this that
all preseason games are going to be televised, I.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Hope, So get it together, Get it together. And then
on top of that, here's another crazy story in terms
of the WNBA trading camp. Maybe it's just like an
entire headline show because we're just going through it. Kennedy Carter,
who was actually a top fifteen guard in the league
last year. She's not going to play in the WNBA,
which we kind of knew. WNBA fans knew. She's going
to Mexico, to the best league in Mexico, Adelitas.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
D Chuaha, I want to chiuaa. I really wanted chiuaha.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Just stuff which by the way chihuahuah is known for
their cheese. Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
If they were known for their dogs, that's just.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
A breed of dog. But Chihuahua cheese, Mexican Lega Nasci
and all Dale Balan sesto.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
All right, But I want to hear more about Kennedy Carter.
Why she's not Why is.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
She not playing? I think the rap on Kennedy is
that she's a tough teammate to have a tough player
to deal with somebody that I don't want to call
her a cancer in the locker room, but that was
kind of the vibe that we've seen. She's threatened to
fight her own teammates. She's been suspended from multiple teams.
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She's been released from teams that needed her offense, like
the Atlanta dream The Atlanta Dreams Dreams not a good team,
and they were like, we'd rather have no guard than
Kennedy Carter. So we'll do a deep dive on her
very soon. But I think really it's off the court issues,
but really personality issues that she has that's keeping her
really out of the w all together. If she had
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the personality of Pagebeckers, she'd be a different story. Yeah, yeah,
like exact same game as as Kennedy Carter has, but
with the personality of Djna or Page or Lexi Hole
or whatever, anybody but Kennedy Carter, she'd be in the
league right now.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
There's just not enough roster spots to have someone like
her in the world.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
She's one hundred percent better than Hailey van Lyth. Like
she is and Hailey Vanlyff is playing for her former team,
she would run circles around Hailey van Lyth, and I
like Hailey Vanlyth. But that's kind of what we're talking about.
If she was Hailey Vanlyth in terms of personality, she
would be playing for the Chicago Sky.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Still, how bad of a personality do you have to
have to be that good and get black belt?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Pretty bad? I mean, I think when she's talking about
putting hands on teammates, she's coming after the queen and
Kaitlyn Kaylyn Clark saying ho all she does is shoot
deep threes. I think that's a problem. I think like
the physicality that she had was just one little element
of the issue. But really, we see all this stuff
happening on the court that's borderline, and we know you've
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also threatened to fight your own teammates before, so much
so that you've been kicked off the team and suspended
off of multiple teams. Do we really need all this?
We don't need all this. This is just kind of
ripping our team to shreds. And I think that was
what you saw why Teresa Witherspoon got fired from the
Sky and why Kennedy Carter was out of there. Why
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you saw Cleia Copper asked to be traded. Who's a
top guard in the league, who's playing for the Chicago
Sky when they won their championship. Why she wanted out
of there? Why Courtney Williams, another guard, didn't want to
play there. Kennedy Carter, from what I hear, has been
kind of the common denominator of that. So I think
you have to be really bad. I don't think Kennedy
Carter would ever play for Unrivaled. I don't think they'd
ever allow her to play there, which mean she'd be
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good enough to play.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I feel like if you're not one of the honorary inviteams,
then you're a veteran in the league, you're probably never
going to be Yeah, I would say if I had
to test, so speaking of teammates and vibes and how
I mean we now know officially that Malaysia for Wiley
is going to LSU. What are your thoughts on LSU
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now that we've got but we know that that's the roster.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I think it's gonna be electric. I think that's probably
the word that I would use the most. Is it
Floge and Malaysia together are gonna be fireworks. That's what
you're gonna see. But I think the thing that's very
fascinating to me as someone who has seen Kim Molke
up close, is when Kim Molki sees her players making
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dumb mistakes, she loses her fucking mind. She's like waving
them off, She's turning their back to them, she's screaming
at them, she's grabbing her own neck, she's you know,
hitting herself in the chest. She's doing all kuyds of
crazy things.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
She's smulky.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, she's pulled, like full melting down. And that happened
when LSU was playing UCLA and the Elite eight. So
I was like, Okay, what what is this going to be?
When Mileaysia turns the ball over four times in a row,
or she doesn't run the offense the way that Kim
Wallke wants, or she just goes and pulls up from
deep three seven straight times and you've gone seven straight
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possessions without scoring a bucket because Milesia's on a heat check.
I think it's gonna be an adjustment period for Malaysia.
And we also know that Kim Milk is not afraid
even for superstars to sit you down and not play
you for multiple games if you're not falling in line
with what she wants you to do. And she did
that with Angel Ree in Angels last year at LSU
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and we all wondered what was going on. There was
all kinds of rumors flying about and we never really
found out what the story was, but we know that
this is something Kim Milk will do. So as I'm excited,
I think Flage coming back is great. I think Milaysia
going to this team could be great, and I think
Kim Welki can sort of whip them into WNBA shape,
but I think get them in a place where maybe
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what Don Staley was doing, which is more subdued and
that kind of coaching was not working for Malaysia. Now
Kim Woke is more of an alpha pitbull, and maybe
my Leisia responds more to the stick than to the carrot.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
That's actually that was gonna be. My question was does
this actually maybe benefit her draft stock now that she's
got someone who could theoretically kind of like you said,
whipper into shape a little more than Dawn probably would.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
But I also think that Malaysia has to be very
careful because LSU has the number one overall recruiting class
and most of the players that are coming in our guards.
So Bella Hines I saw up close. Bella Hines was
the one that you saw. I don't know if you
saw this, but she was on YouTube cooking some YouTuber
one on one and then she did the the V
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with the just wanted to let everyone know where she
was at. She did on her finger.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
She was she didn't need to put the thumb the
thumb ring on.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
No, she need to put the thumb ring on or
like she wanted.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
To make it clear that she is not Hannah Hudolga up.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
So Bella Hines is a hooper. I saw her at
the Hoop Summit a few weeks ago, and she's awesome.
She pops off the page. She's a Jordan Brand athlete,
she has handles, she has mid range shots, she can
shoot from deep, she can do everything. And then Grace
Knox also played in that too. Grace Knox can dunk.
She's like a six foot one guard who can actually
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get up and yam on you. So I actually like
those two players. Kaya Johnson she's there too, Divine Barras
she's there. These are a bunch of players that will
challenge Floge and Malaysia for playing time. So I'm excited
to see how this goes. LSU is gonna be definitely
a must watch team throughout the entire season.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
LSU is losing a big star, not not on the
basketball court.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
But oh good segue on the line. Thanks, I like that,
I did, Thanks, So who's the star?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
So star? So they're losing some star power, not necessarily
in the basketball court space, but in the nil space.
Livvy Dunn announced her retirement from gymnastics this week, which
I mean, I don't think was like, that's not a surprise,
like we all need. Livy Dune was done with gymnastics.
She's exercised her five years of college and there's no
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professional gymnastics league, you know, to go to next.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
But I think basically, you only compete in the Olympics
or try to get to the Olympics, or you just don't.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, I mean unless you're Simonbiles, you know, college. Yeah,
that's what she was doing.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
She just was a pro pro Olympic gymnastics athlete. There's
no like on Saturdays we go to the mat and
we just like compete against one another.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, there's no like Yeah, there's no like Matt brawls,
you know, just every weekend. But I think the biggest
thing my take away from this, I did a little
bit of a deep dive on Livvy Dun. Was kind
of like a shallow dive, but a deep ish dive
on Livvy Dunn's impact on college sports, and I think
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that Livvy Dun has not gotten proper praise for her
impact on women's sports, college sports, all of sports.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I think there was an article in Yahoo where this
guy was basically saying that the only reason that anybody
knows Livy Done is because she's pretty and has a
TikTok account and is in good shape, which is sort
of ridonculous because there's plenty of people who are pretty
and are in good shape and have a pretty face
that have TikTok accounts in college, and none of them
have surpassed or even come close to what Livy Done
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has done online. She just figured out a way to
connect with an audience for something that was really organic
to her, which is kind of like you and your
story as someone who was in the equestrian space and
had to be homeschooled because you were an elite athlete,
is that you don't have a lot of friends, You're
not around a lot of kids your own age, And
she created this TikTok account to sort of find community
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and just like some of these other influencers have done,
like those twins forget their names, do you know who
I'm talking about? They've got the Duncan they got like
a little thing endorsement with Duncan, the original. They're like
the original TikTokers.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Oh I don't think they're twins.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Well they're sisters. Are they not sisters?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Don't they have like a TV show? They have a
TV Yeah, yeah they do. Are we talking about? Yeah?
They have a yeah, they have a show. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I think anyway, So like the Damellos, did they found
their way anyway? What a segue? What a random side road.
You can cut this part. But anyway, so Livy Dunn
found her way to a large audience because other high
schoolers and other college students wanted to have the same thing,
and she was engaging. And then she turned that that
audience into a huge payd.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
A fan base, and well she turned it into a
fan base. And I think that that's what's missing from
a lot of people's minds is Livy Dunn was still
an athlete, and she was still a competitive, successful athlete.
I mean, yes, there were years of school that she missed.
She had a lot of injuries. She had a knee
injury that really took her out of her final year.
But she was an All American her freshman season, and
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I think a lot of people don't ever really give
her the credit for what she did on the mat.
She has a national title. You can't take that away
from her. She was still part of a national championship
winning team. She was still an All American, she was
still very successful. She got a scholarship to the one
of the best teams in the program or in the
country for a reason.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, And I think there's probably the fan base didn't
really care that much about what she did on the mat,
or on the uneven bars or wherever she was competing.
And that's where I think people don't understand. When they
take into account ANIL, they want to make it like
you have to be successful in your sport. I mean,
and she was successful, but they want you to be perfect.
They want you to be Tiger Woods, they want you
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to be transformational, they want you to be Caitlin Clark.
Not every athlete's going to be that. But what I
would say is how she transformed NIL is that now
that the NIL ruling has come down and athletes can
benefit and get money from endorsements of their names, image
and likeness, you do not have to be the top
athlete in your sport in order to do that. You
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can just find a way to find an audience, and
that audience will turn into a payday and will be
self sustaining even though you can't go pro. So I
think that's why that's such a huge impact. Is that, Yes,
Reggie Bush, the player who played for USC in college football,
who lost his heisman because he was essentially benefiting from
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his name, image and likeness, Yeah, he was always going
to be that, But you're talking about a smaller sport
in the women's game, and this woman's probably a top
three and maybe not three paid athlete in college.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
This whole court case that's going on right now, this
lawsuit with the NCUBLEA and IL so basically to really
dumb it down, the NCUBA has said that a handful
of athletes are trying to get back pay from the
nc DOUBLEA for money that they feel that they've missed
out on that was it miscalculated for them in the past,
to overlooking certain aspects things like that, et cetera, et cetera.
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So they offer this two point eight million dollar settlement
and lyvia One reads it and goes, I'm worth more
than this, and women are worth that's.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Two point eight billion. She's not saying she's worth eight billion.
Whatever cut that they're going to give to every athlete
that meant this criteria, no matter what sport that they
were in, no matter what school that they went to,
if they're falling under this umbrella, everyone is going to
get the same, even though Livy is not the same.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
And her point not only to that was part of
this bill also that's not really being talked about as much.
Is it's going to set up a revenue sharing stream
for athletes in across sports as it's supposed to, and
I guess there's some language in there that undercuts the
value of women's athletes specifically because it's based on sponsorship,
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you know, is based on television rights deals, it's based
on you know, ticket price sales, things that are going
to benefit.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I think it overall mostly took the money and gave
it to basketball and football basketball, they gave them a
much smaller percentage of that two point eight billion dollars
was going to go to women's sports, and so Livy
obviously saw that and was like, that's but it's also.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Looking towards the future because it's looking at a revenue
sharing model for the future, and she's saying, this is
undercutting what women in the future are going to have
because you're putting more emphasis on football and basketball, men's
basketball than you are on the growing sports of gymnastics, softball, soccer,
all of those things that are in the women's space
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that are growing year over year. So I give Livy
done a lot of credit for fighting the good fight
for women in a way that she's not getting recognition for.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
So shout out to live done.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
We give her flowers, Yeah, we do.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
We give her her hell of a hell of a career. Livy.
I wish you were to stay healthy, but what you
did is a lot more impactful than just on the
uneven bars.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I agree. Let's move on uneven.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
You know it was uneven.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
She know what was uneven?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Little up and down.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Let's talk about let's talk about my favorite, my favorite sport,
the sport that gets the littlest attention of any of.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Them, the sport that's just so improperly managed, the sport
that should be bigger, the sport that has big purses
now and somehow nobody gives any sort of care or
concern for the future of that sport. So the LPGA
had a major. I don't know if you knew that,
I mean you did, I don't know if the people listening,
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the people out there.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
No, probably not, because in the last LPG.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Last week LPGA last weekend had a major called the Chevra.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
No, they probably didn't because NBC did not promote it.
I mean, I'm sure they did at some point in
some place, but it wasn't online, and it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
We didn't even know. Honestly, we were talking about, like
what's happening, you know where We're looking at something golf wise,
and we're like, hey, not only is there a major
this weekend, but Lexi Thompson has play.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
That to me was my whole chest, said, Lexi Thompson
is not playing in this major. Yeah. I was so
sure of that. So she retired. I watched her retire.
I remember the drama about her retiring. I mean, there
was there was a lot to it. I mean, there
was golf drama. It was drama in the golf world.
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I mean, but regardless, I knew that Lexi Thompson no
longer was playing on the LPGA tour. And then I
saw Lexi Thompson TeV time at eleven thirty, and I went, well,
let me go fact check this. So I went to
the LPGA social media pages, and you want to know
how much there was about it. Nothing, nothing, nothing.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
My goddamn thing, until she was.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
In contention, until she was in contention. And I want
to get back to Lexi in a second, but we
just have to talk about the overall shit show that
was this tournament's finish because Lexi was not in contention
towards the end, which was a bummer, But there were
five players that ended up in a playoff of this
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and probably what I would argue was maybe the biggest whiff,
if you want to say literally literal whiff, eventy second
hole whiff that I've ever seen in women's golf.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Yeah. So Aria Jutanna Guard had was ten under.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, so it.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Wasn't just the fact that she had one of the
worst last holes of all time. It was also in
fact she just kept melting down over the course of
the round. So she just needed to make par in
order to win the tournament, and she chunked it with
their wedge and missed the putt.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I would think we were talking at some point on
Sunday and you said, is this final round gonna be
worth me watching? And I said no, because the lead
right now is like two or three shots, And yeah,
it was her.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
It was Aria was like three shots in it.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah, it was like a three shot lead. And I
was like, and typically once the player gets on the
back nine and the LPGA with the three shirts, they're
on a heater, and they're on a heater, it's not
really going to change. I mean, they are laser they
are lasered into the greens.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I said to you, I said, you know, the reason
I like the PGA tour is I love to see meltdowns.
I love the unpredictability. I love seeing Jordan and Speeth
put two in the water and you're like, oh, man,
what's this about to be? The pressure mounts. And because
women are so accurate with their drivers, with their irons.
Same just in general, women are very accurate ball strikers
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when they're on tour. I mean, like even amateur women
just don't have nearly the amount of power or recklessness
that men normally do. And so when you are dialed,
it is like fucking lasers. Lasers, lasers. I've never seen
a woman pro with a chip.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Yeah, let's talk about what she did the eighteenth hole
at the Woodlands in Texas. So I've been to this course.
This is the first year that I actually have not
been on the grounds for the final round. Okay, I
don't have to have that reaction to it. So this
is the first time I haven't been there. This is
the first year that I haven't been there this the
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final hole is a par five over the water into
the final green, and it's super narrow on the back side.
And you've got maybe like six feet of rough of
like pretty thick, nasty rough on the back end before
you get to the grandstands. It's like it's a really
narrow little gap. So you have to go over the
water to get to it. And I would say nine
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times out of ten, the people who actually go for
the water go for the pin because the pin is
tucked back on the left side of the hole, and
the people who go for that pin either flye it
way over into the back into the rough, or they're
short into the water. You rarely ever get onto the green.
Other players will lay up and go the long way.
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So she goes for the pin. She's got a one
shot lead on the eighteenth hole, which is I think
kind of the most mind boggling decision that she made.
She has a one shot lead going into eighteen and
if she's worried at this point, like what the players
behind her are gonna do. But she goes to the
final hole and goes for two. She goes to the
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green and two, gets on the back, goes to chip it.
But as she's going to chip it, she's trying to
stub the ground just to I guess test the.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
But she she hit the volunteer on her approach. Yes
with it.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
No, that's what I'm saying, you know, I'm saying, I
don't know why she went for the green in two.
She had a one shot lead. That's what I was saying.
It's a got it. It's I don't know why she
didn't go to lay up and try to get a
birdie with the layup. I mean, that doesn't really Again,
she has a one shot lead, it's not a maazing.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Maybe she just thought, oh, okay, well I'm gonna I'm
gonna fly this this water anyway. The worst I can
do is a par the worst.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
A chip coming back down the hill though that they have.
So I mean, I'm also not a professional golfer, so
I don't have the touch around the greens that they do.
But so she goes to hit, she goes out, she
goes to chip down the hill, totally whiffs it like
the ball pop. I think that she thought that she
was clear of it and somehow just like I don't
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even think she meant to hit the ball there.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
I think, Oh no, I think she did. I think
she did. That was not a practice swing.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I think it was a practice swing.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
I do not think so.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
You don't think so.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
I think she You think that was a legit hit, Yeah,
I do. I think that the rough was thicker than
she anticipated, and she just fucking stubbed it. She just
stubbed the.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
She stubbed it, and it was I mean, it went
right back.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
It barely even moved.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
It just kind of like it just like popped up
and then came back in and then that was it.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
And then you could see that on any municipal course.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
I mean you could see me do that anytime I
played golf. That's a that's a shot. Accredible.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
It was incredible. And then what was also insane was
that Mile Sigo and Lindy Duncan were trying to get there.
They were in the last hole as well, and then
one of their uh playing partners ends up taking so
long to uh go over and see what she was
gonna do, to like confer with her caddie and figure
(44:03):
it all out. Ryu and she was like, Okay, should
we take an extra club? Should we not? Nukes won
over the green and just ices these other two players
out that end up somehow still getting into the playoff.
Do you know how mad, I would.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Be probably pretty mad.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
In contention, and this other player that's not in contention
is icing.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Me probably pretty mad.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Oh bitch, can you guys get it together and just
figure it out? Come on anyway, I thought that was
really interesting, and then on top of that, it was
really sad because also Nelly Korda played pretty poorly, who
is kind of the darling.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, she did well. I will say this. I checked
the scores. I didn't watch Monday or not Monday Tuesday,
I didn't watch Thursday Friday, but I was checking the scores,
and at the end of at one point during the
Thursday round, I checked the score and I saw Nellie
Korda was like a hundred fourteenth and I.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Was like, she's seventy seven.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, she played terribly on on Thursday. I thought she
was gone. I thought she was done out of it.
I didn't think that she had even a prayer of
making the cut at that point. But then comes out
and shoots a sixty eight in the second round, makes
the cut. And then at one point on Saturday, I
look up and I'm like, oh, she's got She's like,
(45:24):
I mean, she wasn't ever ever sniffing a win, but
she I was surprised to see that she at least
fought her way back to play the weekend because I
didn't expect it.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, so shot a sixty eight in the second round
as well. But I think just in general, there was
not enough promotion, not enough marketing.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Finding the tournament was a nightmare. The leaders teed off
at noon and you couldn't watch them until four o'clock
in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
I forgot to mention also, Ronnie In probably should have
won that tournament too.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Oh yeah, let's go back to that. Because so Ronnie
In on the KPMG a couple of years ago, right,
that was twenty twenty three the KPMG. She's a fantastic golfer.
The shot that she hit, so I guess this is
kind of my point on that last hole, on that
eighteenth hole, that second shot she hit on eighteen was
probably one of the best shots I've seen all year.
(46:19):
I mean, that was, if not the best, I mean,
that was equivalent, like you're talking about, like the shot
that defines around. Had she made that putt on eighteen
to win, that's better than Rory's shot on fifteen at
the Masters when he won. That's better. I mean that
is that is that type of shot that she hit.
I mean, she two shot, like I said, almost never
(46:40):
get it at the pin. She lands it right at
the front of that hole, rolls it up, She's got
like five feet for eagle coming back down to hell
twelve footer, twelve footer, and she still like still still.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Not an easy put. But it wasn't that she needed
to make eagle.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
She made two put She needed to two put Yeah, yeah,
she she only needed to two putt and she three putted.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Which there was a lot of people who thought that
Ronnie in was gonna win that tournament, Like right around
the Saturday Saturday night coverage, they kind of said, oh well,
she could be easily the one that wins this whole thing.
So just a tough scene for a few women's golfers
that sort of melted down. And I was listening to
the i think the Golf Channel or golf dot com
(47:23):
coverage and they said that Sigo didn't win. She just
she just was the only one to come out alive
in the carnage.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, I mean, she made kind of not an easy
birdie on that hole, but even five players and she's
the only one that birdie to par five on the
playoff to win, which you don't expect only one out
of five to birdy that hole that's a birdie or
eagle hole. It's not a it's not a parbo eagle.
So that was shocking to me. But this is now
(47:54):
the second time at this event, this location, not this event,
second time at this location that it's gone into a
playoff with a really heartbreaking ending on eighteen. I mean,
I guess we're gonna keep getting it here at the
Woodlands now that it's not.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
When we move on, because I know we're we almost
got to get a bat of here. I just want
to say for everyone on Wax Jack Nicholas is not
a good golf course designer.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Ooh hot, take No, he's not.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
He's not. Everything he does is always very tricked out.
Narrow here, random pop bunker there, random water here, waterfall there,
rock formation here, and it's like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (48:32):
There's a lot of Oh, I have to tell you
a funny story about this golf course.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Oh yeah, you told me that you were going to
tell me.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Yeah, so well you started to say when you texted me,
I said, what is what was the power of this course?
Because I couldn't remember, and you said, it's a seven
thousand yard course. It's massive, very back of the course. Hold.
I got to count eighteen, seventeen, sixteen, So on fifteen
there's a big water feature on fifteen, like a waterfall,
(48:58):
little thing going on. So I was I was a
something nicklessy. So I'm out there and I'm on a
golf cart and like getting be rolling. All of a sudden,
I hear this like crack and then I hear the
horn and I'm like shit, and everyone starts going back
in and it's like crazy, crazy, crazy, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Really it was thunder and lightning.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
I thought it was thunder and lightning. So everyone goes
who's running back in? It's final round, and I'm like
out there trying to get a shot of this like
water feature because that's what I think I need to
be doing at that moment. And I go back to
getting the golf cart. Golf cart's dead. Golf cart just dies,
and I'm all the way back, all the way back
at the very end of the end of this golf course,
(49:38):
and it's just me and the non working golf cart
and nobody else because everyone else is runningside for this
rain and I get stuck out there.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
How long were you out there for?
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Like thirty minutes?
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Hit?
Speaker 1 (49:50):
I hid, I had to like go high next to it. Yeah.
I was like, hey, somebody fucking helped me. I'm stuck
on fifteen. Could somebody please come pick me up? And
they were like, yeah, we're gonna send someone out, but
like we can't go out right now because of the weather,
so like you're gonna have to like hang in for
a second. So I'm like hiding behind the porta potty
(50:10):
in the very back in the woods, just like trying
to stay alive, stay alive. And that was my last
experience at Chevron. I think our bottom takeaway, bottom line
takeaway from the LPGA here is like we need to
see it more on TV. I think you even noted
like this is kind of how the WNBA used to be.
And now we're getting WNBA, you know, we're getting We're
(50:32):
like we are like we may as well be in
these training camps right now. We are getting so much
content coming.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Yeah, And I think it's like I remember in twenty twenty,
twenty twenty one that I would be like when is
when are these games on? And I'm like, right now,
there's a game on, where where can I find it?
It's like, are there betting lines? It's like nope, but
it's two hours before the game, is like, no betting lines.
I remember in the Wubble in the in whatever twenty twenty,
(51:00):
the Women's Bubble, Britney Griner just left out of nowhere
and nobody knew why, and nobody knew if she was
injured or if there was something else going on. I'm
just like, oh, yeah, she's not playing today, and it's like, well,
she's not playing at all because I think she had
to leave the bubble and then they never gave an infro,
and so I was like okay. And that's kind of
what I think is happening with the LPGA tour, where
(51:21):
it's like it just kind of happens and nobody's telling
you about it in advance, and nobody's telling you where
it is or when you can access it. No one's
giving you any stories in real time. I'm seeing nothing
on social media until the thing is already over, and
it's like, okay, well, I would have been loving to
know that there was a straight meltdown happening with Arianna
(51:46):
guard Tanna guard. I wish I could be liked be
like I'm not saying a D. I thought I heard
a D, not saying a D. Anyway, I would have
liked to be like melt alert. Hey, this girl's melts
down right now. Hey, like you should too in on
peacock or on heyc Hey it's on, like hey, we're
on hey, or we're coming on like it will be
on Thursday, or like.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Hey, we have golf in general, Because I'm gonna tell
you not easy to find.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
Also, you know what really will help it too, is
if these betting sites put this on their front page,
or these score sites like ESPN show that there's a
women's tournament. You cannot get to the LPGA until you
go to the other tab and then scroll all the
way down and look for women's and then look for LPGA.
That's too much work for me. That's too much work
for If it's too much work for me, it's too
(52:33):
much work for anyone.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
It's too much work for anybody. And I think that
that they need to take a They need to take
a page out of the w page, page backers out
of the umba and start getting their girls, start putting
Nelly Korda on every screen you possibly can, because there's
no excuse for it at.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
This And if you want the sport to grow, then
invest in the promotion. And we see what happened when
and everybody said that about the WNBA, and there was
a lot of people who said, well, nobody cares about it,
and it's like, well, why don't we see if we
promote it, let's see how many people care. And there's
a lot of people who care. And I think that
could be the case for golf. And we won't know
either We won't know either way what the appetite is
(53:14):
for women's golf on a large scale until the resources
are put into promoting it and promoting the stars within.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
You can't order it. If it's not on the menu.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
You can't order it's not on the menu anyway. Awesome episode,
good stuff. We hit everything. We hit golf, we hit
women's college hoops, we hit the WNBA, we hit the NWSL,
we hit the Champions League. I mean, we really gave
you a little bit of bite size of everything, a
little a mooz booche. Next week we'll dive more in
a moose booh. Yep, we'll dive more into the WNBA
(53:42):
cuts are coming. It's the cut date. The cup date's cut.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
The cut line, cut, the cut line.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
The cut will be coming. We will give more information
about that. There'll be more news stories. Hopefully we get
some insight on what's happening with Trinity. But thank you'll yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
If we get any sort of update about that anytime soon,
but we'll see, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Thank y'all for listening, Thank you all for watching. Sponsored
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Like, yeah, letters, let her shoot ski, let her shoot golf.
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