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September 2, 2025 โ€ข 86 mins

We just got back from the 2025 US Open — and we’re bringing you with us. From sitting courtside for Venus Williams and Leylah Fernandez to watching Taylor Townsend light up Arthur Ashe after her feud with Ostapenko, we lived the full fan experience.

We share what it was like to see Naomi Osaka vs Coco Gauff in person, break down the biggest matches, and give our unfiltered reactions from the stands. Then we shift gears: the WNBA playoff picture is finally coming into focus — who’s surging, who’s in trouble, and which bubble team still has a chance. And in the NWSL, the league risks losing yet another superstar overseas.

๐Ÿ‘‹ We’re Let Her Shoot — the podcast that covers women’s sports the way fans deserve. No kid gloves. No fluff. Just respect for athletes and the game.

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What’s Inside This Episode:

๐ŸŽพ US Open 2024: Venus Williams, Naomi Osaka vs Coco Gauff, Leylah Fernandez vs Sabalenka

๐Ÿ‘Ÿ Taylor Townsend vs Ostapenko + Andreeva — a new fan favorite is born

๐Ÿ€ WNBA Playoff picture: top seeds, bubble teams & who can actually make a run

โšฝ๏ธ NWSL drama: another superstar could leave for Europe — is the league in trouble?

Timestamps:

0:00 – The Ollie travel + poop saga (traveling with a dog!)

3:45 – Why we started Let Her Shoot

5:00 – US Open vlog begins: Billie Jean King, Wanda Sykes & Emma Hayes follow the pod

10:20 – Our fan tips: Grounds pass vs Arthur Ashe tickets

15:05 – Seeing Leylah Fernandez vs Aryna Sabalenka live

17:00 – VENUS WILLIAMS UP CLOSE ๐Ÿ™Œ

25:00 – Taylor Townsend vs Ostapenko drama + Andreeva match (from the stands)

33:00 – Naomi Osaka vs Coco Gauff: our in-the-moment reactions

41:00 – Coco’s body language, Naomi’s focus — what we saw courtside

46:00 – WNBA playoff race shaping up: top 4 vs bubble teams

52:00 – Who we think can actually make a run

55:00 – NWSL losing another star? Déjà vu moment for women’s soccer

59:00 – Big picture: Emma Hayes, Angel City & the future of women’s sports

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's get it right off the top.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Ollie was a smolly boy yesterday.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Yeah, we had. I came home and I had to
tell Sam the whole, the whole saga of same. That's
the first thing I did when I got to my mom.
It's told her the full story, the full poop saga.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
It was a time we take Alie for a walk,
and I don't know at what point this happens, but
he's got the worst sense of his body in space
of any dog that I've ever met. And I got
so lucky with Emma because Emma will never step on
poop or pee like She's so dainty and lady like

(00:39):
Ollie just like, just like at one point he's eating
diarrhea like early on as a puppy. I'm like, oh
my god, you're such a boy. So we are headed
out to go into the city before Sarah has to
take your train.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
I've got to take the plane out. And I'm like, Sarah,
I smell poop. Did one of us step in poop?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
And I'm like smelling my T shirt. I'm like, my
T shirt smells like poop?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
We give Allie a full well, a bottom bath, bottom bath,
he's hating it.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
He starts to shake it off.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
He's walking around and put his leash and harness back
on him, and I'm like, I still.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Am getting whiff of poop? What is going on?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
We give him another bath. We see parts of the
poop on his bottom that I must have missed. I
thought I missed. There's some poop on the like on
like one of my items of clothing.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
I'm thinking it's on my bag.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
So we washed him again. This is a full hour
out of the day to try to figure out, because
you cannot be on a plane with Allie in my
lap smelling like dog shit. And there was there was
a whiff of poop for sure, s whiff every time
he would like were like.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
In the uber and it was like I smell poop, and.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
I'm like smelling his whole body, and I'm like, I
don't smell I'm smelling my body.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I'm smelling Sarah's bodies. A fucking fiasco, and then we
say down.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Sarah gets a tea, I get a juice, and like
at one point she had picked him up and there
was like poop on her fingers and she's like, oh god,
So he's still poopy and then we realized what had happened.
Allie got a big, old, caked on piece of poop
to the leash. Oh yeah, we solved the mystery of

(02:21):
the poop. And it was so gross, so disgusting, and
thankfully it got solved because it was a great, a
great mystery.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
It was a great mystery, that's for sure. I felt
like I was still phantom smelling it, like to tweak
you out. You're like, I got home. I got home
and I was like, I like looked at Sam and
I was like, do I smell like poop? And she
was like I was terrified. Someone on the plane was

(02:51):
gonna be like, hey you smell did you tell poop?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
And then there was a cat right in front of
me on the plane, literally on the I'm on the
aisle always, and the person hat on the lap somehow
he didn't discover it.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
There's a three year old.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
In the window seat in front of me on his iPad,
just screaming nonsense, his lungs like egg bucket, you know,
and You're like, what is probably something he's learning on
the iPad? And I'm like, get your kid.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I'm I hotter, I'm I hotter. I get anything I want.
This is my world. I make big holes in my
big u since I tell you that that was one
I made us any too.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
I'm I hotter.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
I'm I hotter.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Welcome the letter Shoot the only podcast that covers women's
sports the way that we would want them covered. No
dog poop, no bullshit, no kid gloves, Sarah. Just respect
for the game the way that we want it played,
all the respect for the athletes and the fans. We
kind of some people, some tennis hardos, didn't think that
we were respecting the culture, which is just wrong. Also,

(04:05):
you're looking for fans, right, so let's not be so
snobby about the entertainment value. Sarah chavnick here, which I
can't even say without my Siri pulling it up. Sarah
chovnik here, two time Emmy Award winning producer, Tristi crik Here,
zero time Emmy Award winning or nominated talent, although that's debatable.

(04:29):
If you're liking our stuff, yeah, the coffee culture piece
in Korea that was mine.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
I know you just won't ever let it go. And
I just think that if you're liking our stuff time.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
No. If you're liking our stuff, subscribe smash that subscribe
button on YouTube, follow us, comment whether that's iHeart Spotify, Apple,
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then more find us, follow us and follow us on
TikTok and Instagram. At the Daily w Sports, Sarah, what's
on tap for today?

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Well, we just got back from the US Open. As
we were, as we were saying, which was an exciting adventure.
We were, we're gonna bring you along for the ride.
We went and we saw we saw Taylor Townsend, we
saw Arena, we saw Amanda Nissimova, we saw Venus, which
was probably the highlight of my week was seeing Venus.
I want to get all your thoughts. I'm gonna give

(05:22):
you all my thoughts. Plus, we're gonna have an immediate
reaction to the match of the tournament. I think arguably
in Coco Golf versus Naomi Osako, and I think that
that the winner of that match is ultimately gonna determine
who goes to the finals. I think we both have
that feeling, and we're gonna switch gears talk a little
bit WNBA. The playoff picture is kind of finally taking shape.

(05:47):
We know who the top four teams are, and we
know who's going to be the rest of the teams,
but we don't know exactly what order we're gonna fall in.
And there's also one bubble team that we're gonna look
get see if they've got a shot of getting in. Still,
Plus the NWSL is on the verge, on the eve
of losing another major name, and we got to talk

(06:09):
about it because we're getting back to that MLS, that
MLS narrative of what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (06:19):
But also also also oh, never mind, never mind, never mind,
you're already there.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
I jumped the gun. I jumped the gun. You jumped
the gun, you jumped you jumped my gun. First, I
want to give a big shout out to the newest
Dub Clubbers, the newest members of the Dub Club. We
had well the costunity, the costunity, whichever one you want
to call it. But we had some big ones that
I think we were starstruck over. Starstruck.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Tell us who they were, Wanda Sykes at legendary comedian, legendary, awesome,
big time supporter of women's sports.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Here was a big one.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
That shot the fuck out of me, Billy gene King
When I go to my lift where we were going
to the US Open. You know where we were going to,
Billy Jean King Stadium.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
That's how her facility. She was not in her facility.
And she's following us. She's following us on Instagram? Is
she crazy? Why is she following us?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
And to your point, Sarah about the Star and the
NWSL that maybe they're going to lose. We got US
women's national team coach manager, Emma manager, consult your manager, Emma.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Hayes, Emma, what fucking Hayes? Are you kidding me? Okay,
we have to talk about this for a second. We
gotta talk about this for a second. Because so we
go to the US Open and we're trying our We're
trying our hand at vlogging, which is not really Sam encouraged.
Sam encouraged the vlogging, right because she's like, that's what
people do. And you and I are we're a little

(08:01):
older than the vlogging community probably, and you know that's
not true. Yeah, yeah, it's true.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Vlogging is not a new concept. Okay, what we have now,
I've always.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I don't think you know this.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
I know this is going to sidetrack us, but I've
always wanted to vlog. I just didn't know how to
how to do No, I didn't know how to I
know how to capture the footage.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Speak speaking of that, speaking of that for a second,
of capturing the footage. We thought we were doing a
really great job of capturing capturing the footage for a
vlog until the end of it and Sam goes, you
know that you were supposed to do this in horizontal
not vertical, right because YouTube is horizontal.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
And ah ah off, oh no, what are we going
to do, Sarah, what are we going to do?

Speaker 1 (09:00):
So we were shocked to learn that Emma Hayes watched
our vlog from the US Open. I don't know what
she was. I'm I'm sorry, Emma, if you're still here,
if you have an abandoned literally.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Me dancing to Kendrick Lamar. And then I went back
to WAK to like see if it was real, and
I was like, was this a fever dream? Because then
I looked at the list of who watched that story
again and she wasn't on that list, and I'm like,
can you take a watch back?

Speaker 1 (09:32):
No, she was still there. It was still there. It
was still there. You just you just missed it. It
was still there. Emma Hayes watched ol watched our story.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Which is actually more impressive is that she was like,
not only am I following these guys, I'm gonna go
ahead and watch their their unhinged story at the US Open,
which has nothing to do. She was probably hoping that
we were gonna talk about Angel City. I bet she's like,
I wonder if these people are going to bury Angel
City for how much of broke bitches they might be?

Speaker 1 (10:03):
I know you said that we talked about that, and
you I said, what do you think do you think
Emma Hayes would want to come on the show? And
you said, I want to ask her about these broke
bitches over over in La. Let's start, though, with the
US Open, because that was I think we both agree
that that was like a top five sporting event experience

(10:24):
for us personally, at least in the last decade.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Honestly, I wonder why I never have gone before. I
guess I just didn't really know. I thought that there
was I didn't know about this grounds pass.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Okay, and I know that the grounds pass. Let's let's
explain what the ground passes.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
And I will I will in just a second, Okay,
I will, and can you just stop fucking Okay?

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Anyway, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Know that there was such a thing as a grounds pass,
and I will get to that in a second. All
I thought you had to do well, that you could
only do was buy a ticket to the individual matches
that you wanted to see.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
So I thought if.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
You were going to go for the whole day, that
they were going to ticket you for every single match
that you watched. But no, there is something called the
grounds pass, which you pay money just to get onto
the grounds and you can see tennis anywhere except for
the legendary Arthur Ash, which I would say, and I
was pooh poohing when people were giving me this advice,

(11:27):
these pro tips, Oh, you don't really need to go
into Arthur Ash, And I was like, excuse me, you're
just saying that because I'm a broke bitch and I
can't get into Arthur Rash. But I need to get
into arth Thrash. And we did, and then I was like, eh,
kind of a letdown. Honestly, important to see once, don't
really need to see it much moving forward.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I think it depends solely on the matchup that's going on, yes,
Arthur Ash, because like if we were there today, we'd
want to be in arthur Ash because I would hate
nothing more than being on those grounds knowing that Naomi
versus Coco is going on in a place that I

(12:06):
cannot see it, and just like I would get the
worst fomo hearing that crowd and being like, oh, I
can't go in though you know.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, that's true, that is true in general. Though I
was wondering to myself, what have I been doing with
my life?

Speaker 1 (12:23):
How have you for the early round?

Speaker 2 (12:26):
How have I not been going to the US Open
every single late August early September. I needed to carve
this out and we'll.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Be carving this out moving forward.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
What a phenomenal fan experience that was. Even if you
didn't watch a lick of tennis, which that would be
a shame.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
You don't even need to.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
And during the finals, Sarah, I bet you don't know
about this because I just found out about it today.
Is during the finals when it's only at arthur Ash
and Adriane can fact check me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I'm sure she knows whether.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I'm not or not. Since the only tennis that is
taking places on arthur Ash. You can get grounds pass,
which is to the quote unquote fan, that's twenty five bucks.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Oh wow, and you can just like go in and
watch on those screens outside. Yes, yeah, that's cool. That's
like totally worth. I think, like if you can't spring
for the tickets for the final, because i mean, let's
be real, and there's a concert who can like, oh
and there's a concerts because like, you know, tickets to
Arthur Asher they're they're they're steep, but also they're steep.

(13:30):
And we're putting this out later.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Blair Henley, friend of Pod early podcast dub Club Memory Big,
friend of Pod, said, hey, if you get a ticket
to Arthur Ash sometimes that's actually cheaper than the grounds pass.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, she did early rounds, early rounds, you get a
take now, right, sure, sure, sure, sure, but I'm saying,
like early rounds when you've got as as our producer
Adrian has, you know very well, she's a lot more
you know, knowledgeable about about the inner workings of the
US Open than we are. And she told us, you know, hey,

(14:08):
just remember there's a lot of really good matches that
are going on on the outside courts, on court seventeen,
on court, on the grandstand. You know that you don't
have to go to Armstrong or ASH. You can go
elsewhere and you can see really good tennis. We saw
Anissimova in the grandstand and that was a great match.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
But my point is you don't even have to go
into ASH in order to take advantage of the fact
that if the ASH gets you in to the grounds,
and it's sometimes fifty seventy five dollars, it depends on
the day, but yesterday when I looked for for Monday,
it was two hundred and thirty dollars for the worst
ticket at ASH, and it was three or two eighty

(14:51):
to get into the grounds. So you should just literally
get the ticket to ASH, which gives you access to
the grounds all day.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
It was just a pro tip. Great great job, Blair,
Thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I will definitely keep that in mind moving forward.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
What was your highlight of the week, Like, give me
your top moment. What was the thing that stood out
to you that you were like wow, just wow.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
I think the number one thing I didn't realize was
holy shit, Layla Fernandez is probably one hundred pounds soaking wet,
and she might she might end up. There's two It's
that it's this and then one more. It's tied Layla
Fernandez because we saw her twice, one hundred pounds soaking

(15:36):
with the amount of power that she generates, her shot variety,
her the dog in her you know how she went
a dog toe to toe with literally the number one
player in the world, Arena Sabalinka.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Fucking impressive.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
She didn't back down. She was hitting insane shots, getting
in Arena Sabalinka's head. And then she pairs up and
you can see why she's such a fan favorite. She
pairs up with Venus in women's doubles and really is
just even more spectacular with Venus in terms of how
she's picking up things with Venus. How Venus sort of

(16:13):
like has taken her under her wing. And I'm like,
she's young, she's hungry, she's tiny. You would just never
accept or like think that someone that small was like
that powerful and entertaining and entertaining. I have one more,
but you can go first on the phone.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
No, no, go ahead, go ahead. And then my other
one was Taylor Townsend. I was like, not really, actually,
I'm gonna stop you, okay, because we're gonna go into
Taylor Townson in a minute. Okay, So That's why I said,
let me yeah, all right, so fair enough, fair enough,
I'm gonna stop you. Venus was my highlight too, because
as a kid of the nineties, right like, as a
kid who grew up in the nineties by formative years,

(16:54):
those watching Serena, watching Venus like come into their own
was was what put tennis right like on the map
for our generation. And I never thought, like, in my head,
I thought that the window to see Venus or Serena
A William's sister play anywhere in a stadium like that

(17:19):
at the US Open, I thought that opportunity was out
the door. I thought it was gone. Yeah, And we
not only did we get to see it, but like
we you know, earlier that day they had scheduled them
for one of the outside courts, and then they moved
it into Armstrong and we were sitting in prime spot.
I mean, we had the best seats we possibly could

(17:41):
have had. We were on the first row of general
admission on the net and like, I mean, we could
not have better better seats, And you got to watch
that power of Venus Williams, and it was just like,
holy shit, that's Venus Williams. Like that was a it
was a pure fan moment of being like, holy shit,

(18:03):
that's Venus Williams.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
And she would And there's not that many players that
when they go down and it looks like they're out,
that you still based on history alone and the pedigree
of who they are and what you've known them to
do in the past, that I'm like, I don't care
that they're I don't even remember how much how many

(18:24):
games they were down, but it was looking pretty rough.
They were down four two in the first set. But
just I've never thought for one second that they would lose,
even despite the fact that most tennis experts would have
said that they were underdogs to begin with.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
So that's really fascinating. I'd love to see them keep
going in this And like, I don't know enough about
the you know, the doubles pool to know whether or
not they actually have a hope and a prayer of
getting close to the finals, but could you imagine them

(19:05):
getting to the Like that would be such an incredible experience,
just for Venus to come back and have that type
of run at a major like that, I mean, what
an incredible thing to witness. Absolutely, But You're right, we
never really like we to let me let me rephrase that.

(19:25):
I was gonna say. We never we never really doubted them,
but we did actually for a minute because we thought
we briefly considered leaving to go and find Anisamova in
the grand stand, and then we went, maybe I'll just
give it, let's give it the end of this set,

(19:47):
and let's see what happens, and no.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Shade to Anisimova or as you would say, Anissava.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
And I don't know, I don't want to always say.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Like a good Russian you would do that when you anyway,
just all of your Eastern European.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, she just rolls off the tip of your tongue,
you know.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
So I think she's so great, and we root for
her as an American, but with that last name and
that style of play, and I watched her and maybe
it was just the end of no shade.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
But it's a shade. That's a shade.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
It was a little late in the day we left,
and it was kind of a critical point and we
left because it's maybe, I don't know, she just she
just bores me a little. She just bores me a little,
just a little. I really like her, but she she's
not as exciting as a Layla as an arena she

(20:42):
just doesn't have the melt factor. I need something more,
you know, I need the and we'll.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Talk about this with Taylor Towns in a second.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
I need the eye roll, I need the fake smile,
I need the racket throw. I need the demonstration. She
just doesn't really give me that. And then there's like, no,
the shot that she hits.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
I don't know, she's just a little technical for me.
Well we went to the arena match. She's funny that
you brought that up because I think we both have
like we both love watching arena, which I feel like
is you know, slightly like controversial to feel. But I
think it's her unpredictability of like her reactions. You can

(21:24):
see there's a storyline to follow on her face. And
I think that's what makes her so fun to watch.
Is that. Like we even posted that clip right of
Leyla hitting that you know little spin and she just went.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
It hits the line. Bro doesn't even look like it's
in at all, and she grabs, She just her nose
with her fingers. She gives the one hundred yards stare.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
It was like cue the curby your Enthusiasm music. Right afterwards,
like it was like, it's that's what I mean. It's
like it's like cinematic. It's a cinematic experience watching her.
It's an all immersive experience. You go through those emotions
with her, which I think is what I love about
watching sports, right, Like I want to feel the emotions

(22:17):
that the person on the court is feeling. And I
feel that with Arena, and I also go ahead, no.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
I was gonna say, we also feel that with Naomio
Osaka as well. And naomio Osaka we didn't even put
her down in terms of like who we saw, but
she dropped the second set and it started to get
a little sweaty. We're not really sure if we're experiencing
the mental melt that we have seen from naomio Osaka before.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
No Shade. We love her, we root for her.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
We love the laboo booths, we love the style, we
love everything about her. And the discussion that you me
Adrian All had was like, so Naomi is not American
or she is American, and I won't go into that
because that's pretty murky and it will take forever, and
let's talk.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
About all that when we talk about Coco and Naomi,
because I think that is an element of this match.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yes, but I think the thing that she said after
the match is like, I hope that when I play Coco,
you guys embrace me and root for me just a
little bit and have adopted me as an honorary American,
which I until I saw the Japanese flag next to
her name, I've always imagined just a suit Naomi as

(23:36):
she's giving American Anisimova doesn't give American.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
You know she's American, but she doesn't.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
You hear the name, you see the American flag, you
see Naomi, you hear you see the Japanese flag.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
You're like, one of these things is not like the other.
You know who the Americans do root for hard? Taylor Townsend.
Oh my god, we ought to talk about Taya first
and foremost.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
We have to at least break down and I know
it's a little old and dated.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
But how we got here, because there's definitely a storyline
as to Taylor's emergence through this tournament, right like it's
the Taylor train is building, correct. People are hopping on
in droves, and it's because of what happened with Ostapenco

(24:35):
on Wednesday, in the second round when there were caught
on camera Ostin Penco after the match was unhappy with
her loss and made a comment understatement and made a

(24:56):
racially charged comment about Taylor Townsend being uneducated and classless,
and that has really rallied people behind Taylor and what
I think Taylor represents as an American in this sport. Well,

(25:19):
it's more than that too.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I think it's like this black girl magic thing and yeah,
that's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah, I think it's like.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Ostapenko said all these things about Taylor Townshend, and Taylor
responded with, I've beatn you everywhere we've played. Listen, I'm
beating you in New York, I'm beating.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
You outside of the United States.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
You're just a sore looser. And then the comments that
were made by Naomio Osaka about it and how Asta Panko,
this isn't even close to the worst thing that she's
ever said or done, which holy shit, I didn't know
that because I'm not like a hardcore tennis fan. I'm
getting deep into the weeds on that. And so then
you're like, okay, because Austin Pinko, I don't know how

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big of an underdog Taylor was, but it was a
very intense match. Taylor had pretty big sort of dig
herself out and gets the win. And then we're like, okay,
now the lights are on against Andreva, the R five
player in the world, this phenom. And we go there

(26:23):
and you're like, okay, let's see what does Taylor have
in store? And in my mind, I didn't even know
that she was an underdog.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
No, And and keep in mind, right this was it
was the late night game in Arthur ash like, because
like ten o'clock was when we started that game, and
weren't We're in there kind of empty.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
It's kind of empty, Yeah, it's it's it's yeah, it's
like probably like half full, I would say, because Djokovic
had just played and everyone, you know, had.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Kind of funneled out the non real fans, right, like
the casuals that don't really know that they're supposed to
be rooting for Taylor, because of course you're supposed to
be rooting for Taylor, so everyone stay her asses in
the seat for the women. Don't even get me started.
But anyway, we go in and immediately she goes down one, two, three,

(27:14):
three games and you hear a pin drop Sarah, and
we were like, oh, what is this?

Speaker 2 (27:21):
And also, this being our first experience at arthur Ash,
we couldn't tell whether this is just how arthur Ash is,
where the where the etiquette is just so on another
level that people don't even cheer. I mean I cheering
on TV before, but I don't fucking know. And so
it's it's like, oh, this is kind of weird in here. Yeah,

(27:45):
Then all of a sudden, Taylor's game after game, boom
boom boom, She's she's getting her swag on. She's literally
shrugging her shoulders, she's pointing at her team, and she's yelling.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
She's she's yelling.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Andreva's clearly sort of in her head.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
She's Andreva's moving her arms out, like what what? What
was that? And I'm like, why is she doing that?

Speaker 2 (28:10):
What's happening?

Speaker 1 (28:11):
And you kept talking and.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Then the crowd starts to bubble and rumble it and
she starts feeding off of that. And at first, because
I was gonna say this a little bit earlier, but
at first, Taylor's style is very different on the heels
of watching Arena Sabolenka, which she just overpowers you with
speed and like you just can tell that that's what

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she wants to do, is sort of have you submit
to her will, and sometimes I think that bites her
in the ass. But Taylor, it was like almost floaty.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Is the right word.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Like a lot of spin and a lot of air
and then some stuff on the baseline.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
And definitely a lot of shot variety.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
But you're like, I don't know if I enjoy this
style of play or if this this is a good
style of play, and then you sort of get into
it and you're like, I kind of love this. And
she's a lefty, she's a southpaw, and so that kind
of fucks with your head a little bit, and then
you're like, oh my god, this is Did she just
become my favorite player?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
I think that for me, yes, I mean, like I
really really enjoy watching her and obviously like her loss
yesterday was a heartbreaker. I mean I was literally I
was so locked in. I was so locked in. I
was watching it on the subway with like on my
phone and like screaming and people were you know, but

(29:37):
I just there's something that's so relatable about Taylor Townsend, right,
Like there's something about her that is so like you
can watch her and be like, oh, she's so me
for that, Like she's sow me for that, like her
reaction to that, She'll laugh at her own mistakes. She
you know, she gets fired up for the things she's

(29:58):
got to get fired up about. But she's her she
rolls her eyes. Yeah, she's just like she's so you're
so able to connect with her on a level where
you feel like she's your friend, that you're rooting for that.
I think that that has what really has made her

(30:20):
for at least for me and probably for others, a
very easy one to say, oh she's my favorite now.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah, and you can tell that it's like, yes, she's
been the star because I put this in the group chat,
like wow, she's she just became a superstar and Adrian,
our producer, is like, no, she's been one, and I'm like, yeah,
she's definitely been one. For like tennis fans, she kind

(30:47):
of like Angel Reese in the NCAA Championship game with
the you can't see me, that's just that's sort of controversy.
And then winning that andre Eva match has like heightened
our casual fans awareness where we're now rooting for her.
And then you're like, on top of that, she knows
who she is. She's hyper confident, she's she's very swaggy.

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She has a little notebook she does does all these
little quirky things in between matches where you're like, she's
got her like I think candy inside this little like
Whole Food's salad box.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
She's she's like she's like just munching on.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Like nibbling and like nobody's really eating during the match.
I love it, which I mean, I'm sure you do
because you're always eating during the show or before.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
As she's always eating too.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Just FYI, okay, so we're we're okay, we we're women
in arms with Taylor Towns and eating during the sport.
So I just think people connect with her because it's
so clear that she knows who she is where that's.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
That's what it is. That's what it is. Taylor knows
who she.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Is and she's a mom, and I think that helps,
and like so is Naomi Osaka. But I think Naomio
Saka just doesn't quite. I think Naomi Osaka is so
concerned with how people perceive her that she doesn't just
she's not just living as her So it kind of
is like, is this Naomi or is this version Naomi

(32:20):
where every time Taylor's going to give you that side
of Taylor that we've grown to really love.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Speaking of like her really knowing herself, she had this
quote from her I'm assuming it was either from her
press conference or her post match interview last night, and
she said, you know, I don't think this is an
accident if I pull back, I don't look at this
as adversity or a bad thing. It stings and it
hurts because I gave everything. When you give everything, you

(32:48):
want a different result.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Right.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Ultimately, I know that this is going to take me
to another level. That is that last sentence, right, Like
I know that this is going to take me to
another level. That's that like I know who I am,
I know what I've done, I know what I need
to work on. It's not this like arrogance of like,
oh I got here on a whim and I'm just

(33:10):
so happy to be here. It's like, no, I got
here because I deserve to be here. I lost because
it's gonna make me better. And that's not why, no, no, no, sorry,
I'm I lost and it's going to make me better.
And I'm on the right path. I know where I'm going.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
This is tok She she has all the skill to
be a top ten player in all of women's tennis.
When she's playing at the height of her game. She
can beat top five winners when she when she played
against Bibora Krajikova, and who's a fucking beast two time
quote unquote Grand Slam winner.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Because I don't like that we call it grand slams.
Grand slams are the whole fucking so I like major
is okay? I like that.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
So anyway, she's playing Kadjikova, who clearly is really her bullshit,
had a horrible first set and then starts playing playing
the way that we know because I don't really know her,
but like that she's known to play, and that clearly
took Taylor out of her game. That clearly I saw
her starting, you know, when she played Andreva, she's laughing

(34:17):
when she makes mistakes, She's like, ah, that's so me,
I've got this. I saw tears in Taylor's eyes. I
saw her visibly shaken her dad or her coach after
I think for the second set, when they went into
that insane tie break which lasted like fucking a whole hour.

(34:40):
It felt like I think it was twenty minutes. He's
He's pumping up and being like, listen, you need to
play your game. She she's not getting into her first serve.
Her second serve is like sixty miles an hour, which, listen,
I don't know shit about tennis. I know sixty is
not gonna get it done my girl. So if she
continues to play with in her identity and then you're

(35:02):
you're the type of talent in terms of like charisma
and star power. The sky is the limit for Taylor Townsend.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
By the way, you just were talking about the sixty
mile an hour serve. And before we move on to
Naomi and Coco, I want to point out something that
I noticed. Venus is still serving over one hundred miles
an hour. It's fucking crazy. It's incredible. It's incredible. I
don't even have words. I just wanted everyone to be
aware of that fact because that is mind boggling to me.

(35:35):
So let's talk about this. Naomi and Coco. This was
kind of like the match build right, like, this was
this was the hype match. This was the American versus
the American, right like it's she's Naomi's American let's they

(35:56):
both trained.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
They both trained in Florida at the same facility. Naomi
watched Coco turn from a minno to a full fledged
fish swimming in the tennis waters right before her very eyes.
They saw each other six years ago when Coco upset Osaka.

(36:19):
They played when Coco was fifteen as well. I mean,
the whole setup has been kind of in the making.
Both have fired their coaches recently. Coco fired really recently
her coach a week before the Open. Naomi Osaka just
fired Patrick Monteglue I forget how to pronounce his name,

(36:40):
and then hired IGOs Fiantek's coach, which has really been
helpful for her because both players actually are kind of
like little baby head cases to a degree.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
They both kind of have lame meltdown sometimes. And then
on Wednesday, Coco had a full on meltdown the middle.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Of the match, crying, trying to figure out a way
to muster some sort of inspiration.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
You had.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Just the crowd going crazy, and Simone Biles was in
the crowd, and that is.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
What apparently sort of turned things around.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Like I said, just got a new coach a week
before the tournament, so you knew when you've.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Changed basically your swing.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Like in golf terms, it's a very frustrating thing to
do when you're headed into a major. I always say
that the majors, and I think this is applicable probably
to quote unquote Grand Slams in tennis as well. It's
like that's a place to have all your tools in
the box, right.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
You don't want to be working through the kinks. Yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Tools, try to figure out a way to find your swing,
or find your serve.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Or find your foregram, fire your backhand.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
In the middle of like the number one tournament. I mean,
it's Wimbledon, but I think probably for US fans and
for US players it's the US Open, Arthur Ash. So
it's kind of fucking nuts that both of them have
been changing major parts of their game like less than

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a month ago.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
It's interesting because now, correct me if I'm wrong, which
which you will, but I will, which we know you will.
But you know Naomi, right, we've seen this, this roller coaster.
Let me let's go back real quick. Let's go back
real quick. So, for those who haven't seen the result
of the match, Naomi kind of she beat that ass.

(38:48):
She beat that ass. She beat the ass, and I
think I was Can I give some some stats, yes,
but let me just finish this thought. Sorry, let me
just finish thought real quick. What I noticed in this
right was a very a looser Naomi, not as much

(39:10):
of a head case Naomi, where I think that we
used to see kind of the unraveling and the coming
apart in the in the.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Even just C match when she dropped set two.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Right, but she seems like maybe we've got a little
more like inner body work Naomi going on now, you know,
like some like, oh, I think that's this match, only.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
I think she I think, Okay, she's headed to a
showdown with Egos Fiatech, who I think will test every
bit of mental toughness that she has in her fiber
Tech is a robot, she's ai her shots, she has
no it's almost like she has no emotion whatsoever. And

(39:55):
so I think it's really just this match. I don't
know that she found anything. I hope she found something.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
I don't think she.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Could find anything because we saw the last match she
was already stared, the wheels were starting to fall off
in that second set where she gave it up and
then she refound it again.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
M hmm.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
I don't think her mental is solid yet at all.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Before we before we look ahead to that Ego match,
let's talk about this Cocoa match. She were talking about
some stats. There's some stats at me, all right.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
So first and foremost, what I will say is, at
the time that I wrote this down, I don't think
there was any more after this. Cocoa had twenty eight
unforced errors. This is a lot frustrated. It wasn't so
much because she hired this new coach to fix her serve.
I thought her serve looked pretty damn good.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Actually it was, really it was the.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
It was the fore and it's almost like the pull
of a golf shot when you when you use your
wrists and then you try to correct without using any risks,
and then then things start to go to the other direction.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
She have it, yeah, right, and I think the.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Crowd's trying to clap Coco back into it.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Uh Osaka only lost one point on serve one fucking point.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Now, yah, tech anisamovo Wimbledon type shit. It was four
to one unforced errors in Coco's favor, four unforced errors
for every one unforced error for Naomi.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
And I think that I think, you know, while I
think both of these two are crowd favorites at the
US Open, right, like I think that Naomi is a
is a favorite in whoever she would play, with the
exception of Coco or like a Taylor Townsend, which we
won't see her play. But I think going into that,

(41:55):
I think the crowd was wanting to lean more on Coco, right,
And I think very early on on the match, you
kind of noticed that it wasn't gonna go Coco's way,
and the crowd got a little taken out of it,
and I think that deflated Coco maybe a little bit.

(42:16):
You know, it just sort of like you just didn't
see that fire like in her. She would the net.
There was no energy Sarah.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
She took the racket to the concrete. I was like, oh, yeah,
she's fucked up in the game. You know how I
knew she was fucked up in the game. She asked
for the match.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
To be in the day. Yeah, that was an interesting
little because I was really floored to see that this
was not the prime time like I thought for sure
when we were talking about it the other day, and yeah,
we said that's for sure going to be the primetime
game on ASH, like or match. I keep saying game.

(43:02):
The primetime match on ASH was going to be Coco
versus Naomi, because that is the that is the most
billable match that you could get out of this US Open, right, Like,
I can't think of a more dinner time come on.
But instead we got a Monday at three pm, which

(43:26):
is weird.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
It's weird, and apparently Coco asked for it, which means
she's not ready.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
She's like on the precipice of a meltdown.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Didn't want to be eating the lights at ASH on
Monday night. She wanted to be under the radar, and
I think that fucked her over.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
I think when.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
You're when you know that you're going up against the players.
It also has the ability to emotionally crumble. And I
really mean this in the nicest way, because like, I
really I like them both. I like Naomi. I really
don't mean this in a way to shade either one.
But Naomi has the ability to to take herself mentally
out of a match as well.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
We've seen it. Yeah, And so if you know.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
That that's a possibility by being on ASH at night,
you must really not trust anything that's going on with yourself.
I think she knew she was going to lose, tried
to put her best effort forward and said before the
tournament listened, I don't expect anything. I literally just changed
everything a week before this tournament. I'm just gonna go
out and have fun. But she was not feeling easy, breezy.

(44:30):
I'm just gonna go out and have fun.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yeah, even in the tunnel before they came out, you
could kind of see it, like on her face, Yeah,
where it was just sort of like deer deer, and Yeah,
it was like a little like she didn't have a
smile on her face, Like she looked stressed even going
into the game, like she wasn't like like like she
was about to like projectile vomit. Like it just was

(44:57):
like it just wasn't I didn't get the feeling that
like Cocoa was walking onto Arthur Ash with everything in
her toolkit.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Like you said, if you didn't know anything about all
these players, and you said one of these players is
number three in the world and the other one.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Is just fighting to get a spot back in the.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
World ranking, you would think that the rankings were flipped. Yeah, Yeah, Now,
this is Naomi's biggest win by ranking in a major
ever ever, in a or like since ever, but she
starts to be like number one, no, in terms of ranking, disparity,

(45:41):
in terms of being oh in disparity. God, Like, this
is her biggest win in a major in terms of
she's twenty three, this other player's three. It's her biggest,
most you know, impressive quote unquote win in terms of
like being the underdog in a major.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, because I think Naomi for a long time was
not the underdog. She was the top dog. And you know,
she's now playing from an underdog position, and she's playing
an underdog position going into this match against Ega, which is,
like you said, you're kind of anticipating a bloodbath.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
She's gonna fuck her up. I'm gonna look and see
what the line is, right, Oh, I don't think EGA's
played yet, as is as this is being taped. I
don't think EGA's even played the Galaxy.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
We're just gonna assume she's gonna move. He is the
best in the world to me. Yeah, the thing that
I mean, I think she's the best in the world
to many people.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yes, Arena Sablanca has the number one overall technically the
best thing. But Ega coming off of that Wimbledon win,
which was not her surface. She's not a grass player,
and to play like that on grass, she's beating anyone's ass.
It's just I think I have Osaka twelve to one
to win the tournament, but I'm gonna probably hedge and

(46:58):
take a lot of EGO in this.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Oh let's let's I just looked at the bracket. So actually,
technically Naomi has one more game to get, one more
match to get through before she even gets to eat
so yes, so Ega, they both have to win their
quarterfinals to play. We don't even know that we're gonna
get that. I think that's what we're getting.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
But listen, I would not be shocked if Naomi doesn't
even make it to Ego.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
It's possible. Wouldn't be shocked, very possible, It's very possible.
But we're on kind of like a crash course right
now for a potential Sablanca EGA final, which would be unsurprising.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Ego right now is the odds on favorite from Vegas
to win the tournament at just over at one and
a half to one plus one fifty. Sabalanca is two
to one so it's pretty close, but I I don't
think it's gonna be that close.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
I think the power you.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Put some money ontil Naomi, didn't you I did at
twelve to one.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
There's there's part of you, there's part of you that
thinks there's a small possibility.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
I hadn't seen the draw to be fair, to be
fair with fair, I didn't know she was going to
see EGA this early, so fair.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
It's a wrap.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
I looked at the draw today and I was like, oh, well,
that's just money down the drain.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
I mean it was like what ten bucks?

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Shut the fuck up, bro, Like, you don't even be
telling everybody how much money I'm putting on anything.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
It's twelve to one.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Listen, I bought poke cables for all this weekend, so
fifty dollars a piece or whatever.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
It was, so just.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Relax on telling people my bet size.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
How dare you? We could see another Ega a Nissimova matchup, which.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Yes, that is that, that is what it's setting.

Speaker 5 (48:55):
Up to be.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Really it is again.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
I think ass to like, hold your ankles, Amanda, it's
going it's going down. I think though, the one girl
that I like is that Bibora, that bbora check chick.
She she's got the makings to fuck some ship up.
And I think she could beat Arena Sablenka. Well, we
saw against Taylor Townsend, the the shots, the big shots, Bob,

(49:26):
the big shot, Bob's you know what I mean. Like
when it's a critical point and it's match points and
she's hitting it on the line, ballsy corner base, what
are we doing down the line?

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Cross court, Audiya, But she's gotta get through.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
I'm not an Amanda fan.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
I don't know Jessica.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yeah, Jim, I was talking about Amanda, But yes, Jessica
Bogula fan.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
I think it's like she's fine. Yeah, but that's an
un that's an unseated player making it all the way
to the she won two Grand Slams. She's just she's unseated.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
So so was Naomi Osaka in other years. I don't
care about seating. I care about what I'm watching on
the court. Let me show you about how the real
ones do it. They watch what's happening in tennis right now?
What an expert and what we said, Yeah, I like
watches four matches, watches four matches, and she thinks she
can run, run, this ship. No, but I trust what

(50:31):
I see with my eyes, which is form. I think
if you see what uh, Bibora Bibora and I'm butchering
the last name, so we're gonna call her Bibora the Check.
When you see what Bibora the Check was doing in
set two and in set three against Taylor Townsend, you say, oh.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
She can.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
She can beat almost anyone in the world. This is
why she won two majors already. So I think she
won a US Open before.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
So is it safe Is it safe to say that
your pick your pick of the tournament. I don't want
to step on your toes, but is it safe to
say is ego?

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Oh yeah, it's not close.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
It's just it's and it's not even close.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
I would be absolutely shocked at this point if anyone
be Ega shocked.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
And you know, and you know what, I think that's
I think that's a fair take. I think that's a
fair I think I.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Set you a link, Sarah of this back of the
drop shot, backhand drop shot. As soft as holding.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
It's kind of like it's it's kind of like freak
of natury. I don't even know how you do that.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
The things that she's able to do, and you talk
about her mental, her mental has gotta be the strongest
of anyone in the tournament.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
I want to talk about that mental thing that that
you're talking about right there, because I do think that that,
to me is like super significant Because what when I
think it's hard to gauge when you're watching highlights that
you see live is the reaction time? Right? Like how
quick that reaction time has to be? And and you

(52:13):
see it on the TV. But I don't think you
really get until you're like in person and you're watching
it and you have to react.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
I know, we go to one tournament and we think
you have to go to the tournament in order to
see I agree, though, I agree, But what.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
I'm saying is that reaction time right, like to know
to hit that little soft bat, how do you even
process that in the time that you have, Like how
are you planning that shot out?

Speaker 2 (52:35):
That's exactly Did you ever see the Queen's gambit?

Speaker 1 (52:41):
I did not see it. You didn't see the Queen's gambit.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
That's such a show for you.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
It's chess.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
No, it's not about chess. It's nothing about chess. It's
nothing about you. You watch it immediately about okay, because you.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Haven't watched the Chaross doc. You told me, let's take it.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
That's what I get from EGA because it's like she's
seventeen steps ahead. You think that she's doing one thing,
but she's just lulling you one way to set something
else up exactly, and she's playing you were playing, and
so the reaction time, she's already plotted out what you're
gonna do and what she's gonna do and what you're

(53:20):
gonna do, and then that sets up what she needs
to do.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
When you watch it right like, because again this is
something that I feel like you don't get on TV
because you're rarely ever seeing like full court, you know,
like or at least seeing like facial Like. What's wild
to me is like right when they hit a certain
shot and then they know before it's even crossed over
the net exactly where they need to place themselves to

(53:46):
return what's yes. And it's like that forethinking of like
knowing exactly what the shot that I just hit is
gonna land here, and it's gonna force them to hit
this shot back to me, which means I need to
be right here for it.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
And that's to the mental when you start second guessing,
you're planning, when you start changing where you're going to
hit the ball midway, which Coco did multiple times, changing
it mid like balls to the racket, and you were
headed here and now by last second to heat here
and it's directly into the net, You're dead.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
You are as And it's almost like it's like it's
the difference between watching EGA or watching Arena. Arena's got
the same. Okay, let's just leave her out of it.
Then it's like watching it. It's that watching EGA, right,
and you're watching and you're like, oh my, this is

(54:43):
a machine, right, like this is pre planned, You've gotten
it all in the back. Nonyic Center is the same way.
And we're not talking about it. That's a man, I know.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
But what I'm saying is I think some of these
Eastern Europeans, outside of Arena Sabalinka, they're just built like
little robots, and that American players have a high variance
of mental well.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
And so that's what I was getting with was with
Coco in this match, it almost felt like Coco was
just hitting whatever came her way just to stay in it,
and it was just the wheels were starting to come
off throughout on different parts of her game, on her forehand,
on her backhand, on you know. And I think that

(55:26):
as that was unraveling, you could see that mental unravel
in her mind, and it just was like the mental
unravel in her mind. Yeah, the mental unravel in her mind.
And I think that was I think that what Naomi
had over Coco today was not necessarily anything other than

(55:47):
the mental you know what it was too. If I
go into there and I'm Naomi, I'm thinking in my head,
this bitch, it.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Just changed everything a week ago. I can do what
I want to do and set her up to make
her even a little more unsure. If there's anyone who's
mentally a little bit more fragile than me, I just
watched her fully have an emotional breakdown on the court.
I can exploit that. And so Naomi smiled a lot.

(56:17):
She looked completely unfazed. She was laughing.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
It was easy, breezy.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
She's wearing the sparkles and and so I think there's
nothing that gives you more confidence than the no, like
this person has no confidence that I'm up against.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
My last note before we move on to basketball. But
I made a joke earlier or on a joke. I
made a comment earlier because I said, you know, I
think I could be a tennis player. I have this
thing Sam makes fun of me all the time that
I'm like, yeah, okay, who not anymore obviously at my age,

(56:54):
but I was saying, I was like, maybe I should
have been a tennis player, because you know, all the
Eastern Europeans are like so good at tenis like, maybe
that's like I maybe I should have been a tennis player.
And Sam said, well, you're a little small to be
a tennis player, and I said, no, I feel like
IgA is pretty small. No, she's not. And then I
had to look it up and was she five to ten?
Yeah she is.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
You're the only one who's even a comp is Leyla Fernandez.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
I know, I know, and she still probably has like
six or seven inches on me. I think she's five
six and you're five to two.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
So I'm not.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Every time you say my height it goes one lower.
I mean, you're just not. You're you were built to
ride a horse, wasn't built wasn't built for tennis, wasn't
built for basketball, no.

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Speaker 1 (58:23):
So moving on to w NBA, not a lot going
on right now in terms of like individual matchups we
are in. We're officially in the home stretch, right We
are less than two weeks away from playoffs beginning, and
we're getting a little bit of that playoff picture finally
starting to come together. We've got did you don't know

(58:49):
how to say? Come together? Yeah, we're just struggling with that.
Uh links Aces Dream Mercury have clinged right the Liberty,
which we're going to to in a minute because we've
got more to say about the Liberty. They're kind of
in no man's land right now. Where they haven't clinched,
but they're also not at risk of missing out on
the They just haven't really solidified their spot and their

(59:11):
seed number yet. But it's it's ticking down. So we're
gonna talk about that in a minute. But Val agrees
Storm Fever Sparks four teams for three spots. Who do
you like right now in those three spots? Do you
think the Sparks have any shot of getting in? Or
is it is it a little too little too late

(59:34):
for them? They've played thirty eight games as of this
graphic that I'm seeing.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
If this is completely up to date.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
This was this was I screenshoted this an hour before
the podcast recording.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
So okay, and you've got the Fever who have played
forty games.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
So oh that's tough.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
That was really tough.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Who they have.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
So they play the Storm the Dream twice and the
uh another six games left for them, So yeah, there's
six games left for them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
And I forgot we added games for a second.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
So there's they play the Dreams the Dream twice, they
play the Storm who are hungry, They play the Mercury
the Aces. The only win that you can say definitively
that they should have is against the Wings.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
That is that's brutal schedule. Yeah, for the Sparks.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
This is for the Spark And if you look at
the Fever, they've played two more games. You look at
the Fever, they played two more games, and they play
the Sky, the Mystics, the Lynx. The Lynx could be
sitting everyone because it's the last game of the season
for them and they're already the number one seed and

(01:00:52):
they don't want to get anybody hurt, and then they
play the Mercury tomorrow. So I would probably, just based
on strength the schedule alone, say that the Sparks do
not make the playoffs, but anything is possible. And the
reason I think so is that the Dream are really
neck and neck with the Aces to try to get
that two seed, which changes everything for them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
And the Mercury.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Yes, but they play the Dream twice, and the Dream
are wanting that two seed, and they really are neck
and neck. They're twenty five and fourteen and the Aces
are twenty six and fourteen, and both of those teams
you can tell, really want that two seed. I don't
think the Mercury are gonna get the two seed. I
don't think that they're even having a possibility of that.

(01:01:38):
So I would say most likely, if I had to guess,
the Sparks would not make the playoffs. And I think
when you're out, you know, when Cameron brink is out
as she was, it is is a tough slog to
be able to say this is a playoff team.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
So that's what I'm gonna That's what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
That's what I'm gonna say about that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Who is your How do you think the remaining seeds
are going to kind of play? Do you think, I mean,
are do you kind of think that the way the
table is set right now, right with the top four
and the bottom four, do you think that that's how
it will be? Or do you see any shuffling going
on with home court advantage.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
I'm looking here at the schedule, I mean looking at
here at the standings. It looks like there's a dog
fight going on between the Mercury and the Liberty. Which
if the Liberty, we'll talk about them in a second.
They're just not playing good basketball right now, which is
really horrible down the stretch. That's pretty much all that
matters when you're talking about playoff contention and how deep

(01:02:37):
you can go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
You know, the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Aces are rolling. They've won eleven straight games, twelve straight game, right,
and that's all that matters. When you're talking about being
a championship contender, playing your worst basketball down in September
is a fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
It's not what you want, it's not where you want
to be. I think the Valkyrie them being on a
hot streak is helpful. I don't really see this table
changing changing that much, No, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
I think that the only thing that I could see
flipping depending on how things go, is the Fever winning
three fourths of their games if the Links do sit
all their players the last game of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Fair enough, I mean, I do think that when you
look at both the Mercury schedule coming up and the
Liberty schedule coming up, because we were saying, like, right
that that's kind of the one that's the one right
there that could go is because Liberty. I mean, how actually,
I'm gonna ask this question in a second, But Mercury

(01:03:33):
have I mean, they have a schedule coming up that
is very possible for them to win all four coming home, right,
Fever Mystics Sun Sparks. So if they do, I mean,
that's that really kind of solidifies their spot. Right. I
don't know right now that anyone can touch the Links

(01:03:53):
or the Aces in terms of going into this playoff picture.
They seem like ahead and show above the rest of
these teams. I disagree, you disagree, Okay, tell me, tell me.
I think the Dream.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Are pretty much identical as the Aces. Identical.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Okay. You watch them play.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Everything goes down to the final second. The Dream were
up ten at home, or I think maybe actually they
were in Vegas. They're up ten, and the Aces find
a way to win. They're hungry, they're trying to get
into the playoffs as a higher seed. But these two
teams are perfectly matched for one another.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
I think that those three are the clear are the
clear top three, and then when the Liberty are playing
their best basketball, it's probably the Links the Liberty, and
then the Dream and the Ace is a slight tier
below them. But I would not put the Dream on
a different level than the Aces at all, because they've

(01:04:54):
been consistent all year.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Fair Enough talking about the Liberty, right, how value is
that difference between seed four and seed five.

Speaker 6 (01:05:05):
They're gonna play the Mercury regardless that in this scenario
the Mercury, I don't think Phoenix is that big of
a home court advantage. I think what matters, though, is
for the Liberty to have home court advantage. They've lost
their last four road games and they're a team where
home court advantage means a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
In Brooklyn. You've got Ellie there, you got Ben still
are there, you got Aubrey Plaza, who, by the way,
is a dream Dub Club member.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Can someone get her dramas y if someone got hurt?

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
So, I think that that's what matters. It doesn't really
matter that that Phoenix has home court. It matters that
the Liberty does not. So if I'm the Liberty, I'm
doing everything that I can to fucking step up the
caliber of play that's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
What do you need to see more of with the
Liberty right now? I think just defense. I think intensity.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
I think it's executing the way that we know that
they can execute. Sandy Brondelo is taking.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
A lot of shit right now online.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
People are saying that she's having the worst coaching season
of her career. What you may not know, Sarah, is
that this is kind of the opposite for Sandy Brondelo.
That we're seeing Sandy Brondelo Liberty head coach. They always
start off slow. The Liberty are one of those teams
where it's like, oh, they kind of fucking suck. The
first fifteen games of the season, you're like, just hang in.

(01:06:27):
Sandy Brondelo takes some time to get everybody together.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
But this year it was like, this is the hottest
team in basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
They're off the championship run, they're ten to zero, they're
beating teams by a pajillion, they have the best net rating,
they're the best offense, they have the best defense. They've
got Sabrina Cook and Stewie Cook, and John Quall's right there.
You add Tasha Cloud. It felt like nothing could go
wrong with the Liberty, And now at the tail end
of the season, we're seeing some of the patterns that

(01:06:54):
we've seen with the Liberty in the beginning of prior seasons.
So they just need to clean it up. But it's
not hard to imagine that it's difficult to have these
things be precise when when players haven't been in the
lineup all year, you've had injury after injury, you've had
John Quell goes down, Sabrina goes down, Breonna Stewart goes down,

(01:07:16):
Sabrina goes down, John Cuall went down twice, and you've
got you know, Marina leaving for euro Basket. There's just
been a lot of instability. You've had Sabali out in
and out of the lineup, so and then you ended
up losing a couple of players to the expansion team.
So there was just different changes that have happened over

(01:07:39):
the course of from last year this year and then
also all those injuries. So they just have to figure
it out by the time they play the Mercury, and
I think that'll be a great tune up series for them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Stewie made Stewie talked about this. She talked about the
quality of basketball they've been playing. And she's not pretending.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
There.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
There's no pretending here, right like she she's owning up
to this is kind of shitty, right yeah, I mean,
let's play it. Let's play and see what she said.

Speaker 7 (01:08:09):
My first question was for Branda teams and I gave
up thirty nine point second chances or off turnovers. So
what was said after the game and how can you
as a group and as a veteran leader hold yourselves
accountable with as you said opportunities running out at this
point of the season.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
I mean, I think what was said is like, it's
not good enough. It's not gonna cut it any of
the things that we've done today and honestly for a while,
it's not gonna get us where we want to be.
This is not a championship level basketball at this point,

(01:08:51):
and everybody needs to recognize that and understand that we
need to get there.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
I mean, you're just running out a time, right, And
you know what the potential of this team is their buzzsaw.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
And those are the scariest.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Teams because you really don't know what you're gonna expect.
If they show up like they should, this is a
fucking team that could go back to back. If they
don't clean it up and they continue to fuck around,
they're gonna end up maybe getting bounced in the first
round to the Mercury. That's a bad matchup. I said
that two months ago. The Mercury are big, they're physical,

(01:09:25):
like Alyssa Thomas gets into your grill.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
They make it difficult for you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
They're very pesky, you know, And so if you're not
coming with your best basketball, if you don't have a
sense of urgency because you are a team that just
won the title and you've been trying to quote unquote
figure it out. Due to all these injuries, you could
end up going home. And I think Breonna Stewart is
right in the sense that, like listen, it all starts

(01:09:51):
with defense. And we saw what happened with the Aces
when they clean their defense up and they're rebounding up,
they fucking went on eleven game buzzaw situation.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
So that's exactly what you can say could happen for
the Liberty.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
We just don't really know what version of them is
going to show up and is very very frustrating.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
And I think they fucking know it. Mm hmm. I
think they do. And that's got to be extremely frustrating
for a team of that caliber, like you said, who
should not be dropping some of the games that they're dropping.
It just it shouldn't be happening.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
You should not be in a dog fight with the
Connecticut Son. I mean, I'm sorry, you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Just shouldn't, right, Like, what are we doing? What are
we doing here? By the way, the Lynx, I just
want to put a quick note. The Links got to
thirty one wins, which is their highest ever season total,
which again, it's more games this season. We know that.
But blah blah blah blah blah. Can we tell them
about Gary? But I was just about to say, I
want to shout out Gary, our buddy Gary, who we met.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
At the US Open, who was probably sixty five years old,
probably sixteen.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
No, no, no, no, he had to have been in
his maybe even early eighties. No, no, he was in
his seventies, at least seventies, at least okay, in his seventies. Okay,
we're not gonna find about this. An older man, an
older gentleman named Gary, and we had to share a
table with him for our food. Eating at the US

(01:11:18):
Open is quite an adventure because there are a lot
of people and not a lot of tables, and so
we had to share a table with a guy and
we said, Gary, we're so sorry. We're filming some content
for our social media page while we're here. And he goes, oh,
what's it about? And we said, oh, it's about women's sports.
And he said is it only for women or can
like men watch too? And we said, oh, yeah, men
can watch and he goes, well, I'm a I'm a

(01:11:39):
big Minnesota Lynx fan and we were like, okay, Gary,
and then he starts just rounding up.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
And then and then I say, oh, you like Nafisa Koyer.
I'm just giving him what I thought was a law
And he's like who And I'm like, you know, Mifisa
choir MVP and then he just rope a dopes us
and he's like, oh, yeah, she missed seven games due
to injury, but she's back now.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Really like what she's bringing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Love the stud bugs, love uh heat him in Natsia
Hitamn and Courtney Way and I love Caleb McBride. Can't
forget what Caleb m brian brings it this time. This team,
they just play the way that you want to play.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Below the rim.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
They're spacing the way that they flow. Love Djene and
you're like, I'm stunted.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
I'm out. I think we literally were. The woman was
too stunned to speak because we were like, I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Said, you want to do research for our podcast?

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Buddy Gary walked in. It was like and he was
like they got totally host last year in the playoffs.
I said, you're gonna go to the playoffs and he's.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
Like, oh yeah, I'm going. I'm absolutely going.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
So shout out to Gary, Shout out Garry, Shout out
to Gary. Not you know who we're not shouting out
right now?

Speaker 5 (01:12:55):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Angel City Football Club? Is Angel City BB. We're gonna
start calling him b B Broke Bitches FC.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Yeah, Broke Bitch's Football Club, the broke like literally trade
players for cash.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Yeah, so this is not First of all, this is
not a done deal. We don't know. This isn't a
done deal. We have until Thursday, so we've got now
three days to see if this happens. But it's looking
more and more each day. There's an article coming out
saying it's more and more likely that this Alissa Thompson
to Chelsea deal is going to happen. And let me
tell you something that I read because I did not

(01:13:29):
know this until I read it, But apparently it might
also be a two for one where they're taking Giselle
and Alyssa both to Chelsea. For those who are not
as dialed in on the NWSL, Alyssa Thompson twenty years old.
She is quite possibly, I would say like she is
the upcoming star right of US football. She is she

(01:13:51):
is the US national you know, she's on the national team.
Her and her sister both on the national team. Her
and her sister, Giselle, they both play for Angel City.
They both started playing for Angel City while they were
still in high school. They have kind of had what
name Gizelle, Okay, keep going. I just wanted people to
know that that's why I had already said it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
You're just missing Yeah, but people don't know that that's
that Giselle is Giselle Thompson, their sister.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
That it's not just another random player on or another
random player. So Giselle and Alyssa both sisters. Giselle I
think is eighteen, Alyssa's twenty. They are, I mean they
really are, Like they are the future of the NWSL.
They are the young stars of the league and they've
been at Angel City. I Alissa has had I want

(01:14:38):
to say, eight goals this season so far, and I
mean probably I would say top three star right in
the league next to Trinity, and maybe top two star.
Maybe she's you know, as far as US players go.
Chelsea has from the WSL has offered made an official

(01:15:01):
bid for Alyssa. I don't know how much money it is,
but I can tell you it's more money than what
the NWSL has to pay. Based on the fact that
we've seen these record breaking deals of over a million dollars,
over a million dollars, over a million dollars, Alyssa's is
going to be. If this happens, it's going to be

(01:15:22):
well over. I think it will be the highest in
my opinion, I have a feeling it will be. It'll
break the record maybe two maybe two. And then if Giselle,
her sister is and if it's a if it's a yeah,
I mean, if it's a package deal, they could pay
two three million for the two of them to go together.

(01:15:43):
And I want to talk about the issue that we're
having in the NWAS and we have beaten this this
drum a million times, but how many stars are we
going to allow to leave and go to a different
league before we say maybe we should take a look

(01:16:05):
at the salary cap.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
But I want to go more granular than that, which
is like, we already know that this is bad because
it's just bad for NWSL, it's bad for American soccer.
But what for someone is like a casual NWSL fan.
The thing that I don't quite understand is why a

(01:16:27):
team like Angel City aka Los Angeles the biggest market,
the Galitsius market in pretty much all sports, would essentially
allow their franchise to collapse on itself by sending multiple

(01:16:49):
marquee players away and allowing this team to be propped
up by an aging star in Kristin Press who barely starts.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Who has maybe another year. I don't know why you
would do that, doesn't there's no other it doesn't know.
It doesn't make a team that would.

Speaker 5 (01:17:06):
Ever do that?

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
And are they punting on just me and this size?
Are they thinking about selling? Like? I don't know why
you would do this besides the issues and you need
that money.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
This is what gets me and what I've never and
as a soccer fan, I have a I struggle with
when it comes to We see with the w n
B A right, like there's when they draft, they draft
a player that they're going to build a franchise around.
We saw it with Caitlin, saw it with Paige, We've
seen it with other big stars, right, But but never

(01:17:41):
in a million years do I think Paige that that
Dallas is going to let Page walk away if it's
not working. I think they will if they're not, you
think they would, Okay, well we'll not get into that
right now, but okay, my point is is that if
you have a list of Thompson but Caitlyn Clark, they
would not. The Indian would not, would never let Caitlin Clark.
You're building your team around her. We see it in

(01:18:04):
the m Sports right like the Commanders built around Jayden Daniels.
Like it's it's you build around your young stars. So
why let Alyssa and Giselle Lead and Paige Nielsen. I'm
also thinking about the page needs. Oh when they got
rid of last year, you got cash, and.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
They're getting rid of these players for cash. They are
bringing nothing back.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
In in terms of young talent.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
All they are trying to do is put money into
their bank account.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
That's fucking absurd. Well, it's it's towards that salary cap.
But it's like, here's the thing, and this is what
I discovered, is that the WSL salary cap is forty
percent of the club's revenue. Right But because of the
way that the WSL is set up, each of those
clubs are attached to a men's club, So Chelsea Women

(01:18:56):
is attached to Chelsea Men. So it's not just forty
percent of what Chelsea Women bring in. It's forty percent
of what Chelsea as an entire franchise brings in. And
if you add the Chelsea Men to that pot, all
of a sudden, you're paying. You can pay forty percent
of what nine hundred million dollars, like you can't compete with.

(01:19:19):
So you can't compete with that. And not only that,
but you have owners, right. We see it with Michelle Kang,
who have teams that they own in the US and
they have teams that they own in Europe. And oh, well,
Michelle Kang, I really want to keep Trinity Rodman, so
I Trinity Robbin's gonna ask for two million dollars at
the end of this season. Well, I can't pay her

(01:19:39):
that legally under NWSL guidelines. So I'm gonna move her
over to England because i can pay her that. And
I would rather have her play for me on a
team in the UK than have her not play for
my team at all and just play against my team.
And that's what's happening with this soccer. We have to
look at the salary cap in women's soccer in the

(01:20:00):
in the NWUSL. And I know there's a lot of
arguments about this because it's what allows parody, and it
allows things like the Chicago Stars pulling a draw with
the Washington Spirit last week. Because we have parity in
the NWSL because of the salary cap, but also because
of the salary cap, you're digging a nail in your

(01:20:20):
own coffin. By allowing these players to leave.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
The overall league itself starts getting worse and worse and
worse and worse. And because the Stars keep going elsewhere,
it's like bucket full of crabs. Mentality, it's horrible. It's horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
Well, and you can be like, for example, the Pride
just got ov Alle right, like they just got a volley,
and we're like, oh wow, yes, great, a huge international
star is coming to the league. Don't look over here, though,
because we're gonna send Melissa and Giselle over to Chelsea, who,
by the way, I already have Naomi Garma and you know,

(01:20:56):
oh so now our three biggest American stars are playing
for Chelsea. Emma Hayes, if you're listening, help us out.
I don't know that she can do anything about it. Well,
she used to coach Chelsea, so maybe she can get
it to stop.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Okay, While we were at the US Open. Team USA
Women's Rugby played Team Australia and that apparently was one
of the best games that we've seen from Team USA
in a while and they were absolutely ballin' thirty one

(01:21:35):
thirty one against Australia. This guy from The Guardian said,
I am not exaggerating when I say this was one
of the best games of rugby I've ever watched in
my life.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Like just back and forth, ding dong affair, both sides
producing all this these moments of magic, a little bit
to error just to keep things interesting and open and
like to tie Australia. Pretty fucking impressive. Team USA technically
still in the mix. They've got They've got three points,

(01:22:14):
Australia has eight and England has ten.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
Australia beats Samoa seventy three zero, so there are one
hundred and thirty five points behind Australia, so you would
need a huge swing in the group.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
But I think in general there's a lot of excitement
around Team USA and what we can end up being
and going and fighting against a team that's known as
one of the top rugby teams in the world. I
think it's pretty much a win for Team USA, So yeah,

(01:22:49):
I think Australia had a bunch of tackles, like double
the amount of tackles that Team USA had. Just in general,
I think one of the more more exciting matches. I
wish I would have been able to see it live,
but we were literally at the US Open, and there's
too many amazing women's sports going all at once, and

(01:23:11):
I think we're pretty much out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
So this is one of the last times that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
We're gonna be able to talk about women's rugby from
tmusa perspective. We'll probably talk more about it from the
England side moving forward as this tournament progresses, but just
all in all, you've I think you just don't see
this in any other sport in the sense that you
can get your ass whooped and the team that just
put their boot to your neck, they are laughing, they're smiling,

(01:23:37):
they're embracing you. The toxicity that's normally in the sport
is not really there as much, and the fans are
very supportive. We had a bunch of people on our
YouTube giving us all these tips about how we could
be better rugby fans, which is why I want to
continue to talk about the sport because I feel like
they did so much to embrace us.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
It's just a very community.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Driven sport that even on the women's side with WNBA
and WOSLF, you just don't have that level of like, hey,
come into our tent. We know you know nothing, we
know that you're not nearly as good as us, but
it's kind of all one happy family.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
M I can't I caution the one happy family narrative
because like we have only really seen it from like
a very narrow lens. We've only seen it from like
our one experience in this Like for all we know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
The level of vitriol does not appear to be there
between teams. There's not the same level of like putting
your nose in the fact that we just crushed you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Give it time. That's all the time that we have.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
But this episode of Letter Shoot. Thank you so much
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Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
We love you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
You are our sugar daddy as it were, and it
pays the bills, so we appreciate y'all. Next week we'll
have some more us open talk, because by that point
we will have a winner, and I hope that our
prediction for who we think is gonna win comes true.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Sarah, did you have.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
A good time?

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
I had a great time.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
I wish you knew more about what happened in rugby
and helped me out there.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
But okay, I can't know everything. That's the story of
my life. Baby, that's the story of my life.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
I can't know everything, all right, one, two, three, We'll
see y'all next time.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
I'm not hotter. I'm a hotter. I get anything I want.
This is my world. I make big moves in my
big heals since the day I think I was born.
I mean, I make him
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