July 8, 2025 • 61 mins
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Today we are talking the WNBA All Star rosters - who got snubbed, who got crowned, and how the fans are making the calls. Plus, week one of Wimbledon and the Euros delivered nothing but drama - what the favorites in both tournaments are looking towards in week two.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming up on our show today, we're breaking down the
all star roster, biggest dubs, biggest snubs. We've got blood
bath in the women's side of Wimbledon, lots of drama.
We're gonna talk about Trinity Robmin and her impact on
the men's side of the game because she is there
supporting Ben Shelton. What favorites are left in Wimbledon for
the women and the Euros are upon us. We're not
(00:21):
completely locked in, but we are starting to get locked in.
We'll talk about some of our favorite teams to watch.
So get yourself the popcorn and pour some tea.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm a hot girl.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I gat anything I want. This is my world. I
make big moves in my big hues. Since the day
there I was born, I've made a big too. How
do I hype the show? When we're in Instagram jail?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
We are? And can I tell you I'm going through
significant withdrawals over this.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Not only are you going through with draws, You're going
through like you're going through the waves of almost like frustration,
like the denial, like the stages of grief.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yes, do you want to know what it is? What
you did? What I did?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Did you open a fake account.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
No, I didn't do that. No, I haven't gotten that far.
But I posted on my own account, which I don't
know what happened, has not happened in like probably like
seven or eight months. I think the last thing I
did was like a twenty twenty four dump, and yeah,
I haven't I haven't posted on my own account, but
(01:32):
I got so thirsty for the likes that I had
to post on my own account. And then it flopped
because I realized that I'm private and I have, you know,
three of the followers, so I don't can never post.
So I'm also in no one's algorithm. So it actually
ended up backfiring and made me feel worse about myself.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, and I can tell that y'all. In the back end,
the things are like just more and more stressed about it.
I'm going off and I'm talking to my metafolks and
I'm like, oh, yeah, I hit my metafolks up and
You're like, well who, I'm like, well, you don't know them,
So why do you want to know?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I need I need to know what I need to
know behind this? Why are they.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Well, because our gen our resident gen z, I kind
of knew it was like because I didn't understand it,
you know, what is it? Well that was not necessary.
So anyway, Trinity and Ben, which we'll talk about later
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on the show, and we have to get to the
intro at some point, but anyway, Trinity and Ben, they're
looking at each other longingly. At Wimbledon. It became a
little moment and our resident jen Zo Google eyes, he
had Google eyes and she was just looking up. But
I'm like doting, and it was like, oh, these two
(02:57):
are so cute, don't mind us would just be playing
in traffic and I sent it to the group chat
and I was like, I don't get it is I
don't I don't get why we're playing. Why are we
playing in traffic because it's cute, and it's like, yeah,
it's so cute. We could die. And it's like probably
it was either that or us posting too many like
(03:21):
font clips, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Either way, we got we got a community guideline standard
and then my personal lock. Yeah, well and then you
got that. You fought to get that back and I'm
just saying we're still in jail.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well one hundred your context in fifteen one hundred and
fifteen thousand, followers versus seven thousand. They probably just elevated
a higher because it was my personal but one. I said, guy, no,
I'm not, Come on, what's happening? This brand account is
even more important than my personal building. Yes I did what,
(04:01):
Yes I did? This is what I said? You do
think I said? I said, got my personal back. Don't
have the daily w restriction lifted, which is connected to
my personal But this is even more urgent since it's
a new brand account that we're growing.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
All right, all right, okay, yeah, anyway, welcome to Let
Her Shoot.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
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Speaker 2 (05:00):
So you apparently have a big piece of news that
you were unwilling to share with me before this podcast.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So I can share something that I want your genuine
response for. On the podcast, you kept asking what is it?
It's not It's not that important, Sarah for us to
be talking about on the phone. This is a podcast
piece of news.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Okay. I was worried it was banks.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It's it's not bank. Can you Mentionine, if I just
came in and just had like the curtain banks, I
look really not very good with curtain banks. They are
so hard to maintain too. You have to like flatter.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It's bad. I know I had them once.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Oh yeah, anyway, this is my news. We got to
talk about this. So for the very first time, everybody,
I've been clowning. I'm telling you, touch grass. I got
on my cell phone and I downloaded the Love Island
app and I voted for my favorite couple.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Who did you vote for?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I voted for Ace and Shelley. No, it's you, that's
it's my vote.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Are you doing? What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Who did you vote for? Anyway? Backstory if you haven't
been watching listening to the pod, or you missed that episode. Basically,
I was clowning anyone who votes for anything, and we're
gonna talk about WNBA All Star of Snubs in just
a second, which a lot of fans just decided to
take time out of their day and do that.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Maybe we have been encouraging the voting instead.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Maybe any anyway, So I just felt compelled last night
to vote. I felt like a lot of the shit
that Shelley and Aces have been getting has just been
too much. It's been egregious, and I don't want to
come get home. And they've been really Day one. They've
been the only Day one OG's couple there, and I
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think that they're just kind of unfairly shamed.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I had the same vote as Cocoa Golf.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You're on Nicolandria, Yeah, I'm in on Nicolandria. I don't
because they like each.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Other or I don't know, just like her. I don't know.
But here's the here's the issue. I don't think anyone
at this point deserves to win this show. Like I
don't think that there is any couple that we're going
to look back on in a year from now and
be like, Wow, what a great couple that they're still
together to this day except me, and like I could
see it. No, that's not who I was going to say.
(07:28):
I was going to say Pepe and Iris new couple,
hot take, because they give me big Leah Miguel vibes
and so like, I'm kind of on board with them.
I think that they could be something, and I'm waiting
to see it play out because we only saw it
for the first time last night, but I went. I
went Nicolandria because I like them as people, and Cocoa
(07:50):
Golf also agrees with me, and I think a lot
of the internet does too, so.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I know that this is not a Love Island show.
But one more take before we moved to actual the
topic at hand, Landry says she's a slow burner, which
I guess is like a Love Island term. There's always
a term, yeah, as a term terms for Love Island,
you know, Yeah, she's a quote unquote I gotta tags
(08:16):
slow burner or whatever. But I just don't think Landry
is a sexual person. I think the concept of anything
romantic or sexual makes her uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
She could be true, she.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Just goes a and I'm like either your curb m
either your curbonim or you're or she's just not into him.
You're just like, well, you're either curbon which is not
into him, or you're just uncomfortable in your own skin
about like, and that's why she doesn't want to kiss
unless there's like a child.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I'll be curious. I'm really curious to see how they
are now that neither of them have anyone else in
the house, since Sierra got that for her racism, and
you know, we'll see, we'll see what happens. That does
bring me kind of two of you were questioned though.
Let's say you're on Love Island, right, there's like a
house full, uh huh of of women's athletes, right, who
(09:10):
are you shooting your shot with?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Who am I pulling for an immediate chat?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Who are you? Who is the first one you're pulling
for a chat?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Oh? I went through an extensive amount of research.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
For this question. I gave you a heads up that
this question was coming.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I would have had a hard time doing this on
the fly, but then when her name came up in
the list, I was like, oh, yeah, that's absolutely who
it is. So I went through like, you know, hottest
female athletes, and then I looked at like ones that
were like, you know, into women. And so the one
that came up that because you don't really want to
(09:45):
like pus one for a chat you know is obviously straight.
Give you it's Candace Parker. It's it's that's a good one, easily,
Candace Parker. And I'll say this, I have Juju. Oh
she bad. No, but she's not just bad though she's
(10:06):
a badass. She is a badass, but when you see
her in person, there is like a star quality to her.
I went to her birthday bashed during w NBA All
Star Weekend two years ago. Juju actually took me and
she I could not stop clawking where she was in
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the room. She's one of those people absolutely radiant. She
is very playful and like demonstrative. She's just got so
just charismatic vibes oohs out of her. Apparently she's an
asshole to work with. Like people that I know that
work with her on the brand side of it it
(10:50):
is have said like she's she's really like tough. But
I and like if she says no to pull for
a chat, like you jump off the building, jump off
a building, like that's what you do. But if you
if you make eye contact and she's into it, that
would be fireworks.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
That would be fireworks. I could you know what I would?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I would too.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
She's also married.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, well we're not taking an account. We know her type, right,
She's got a little she's got a white wife.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You're a little small.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Some people are into that. Go ahead, who's yours?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Oh god, Okay, this was hard because it is making
me laugh. Okay, I didn't really like think about this
that hard. And now that you threw out like the
the whole like they need to be gay thing, like
that's kind of like altered my But I'm gonna tell
you who And this is kind of a this is
a dark horse okay, but personality alone, I'm pulling Tasha Cloud.
(11:52):
Oh and and like that would be rare for you
because to mask on mask, yeah, would be mask on
mask crime. You know, I feel like I feel like
the vib Like I don't know, I just really dig
her vibe. Maybe I would just try to get pointers
from her the whole time.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
She would become you would be pulled for a chat,
turn into a wingman, Yeah, like I would.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
But I'm also like kind of curious, you know, like
part of me is like, I mean, I don't know.
Don't knock other people like masks, so don't knock it
till you try it. I don't know, I haven't. I
don't know. Maybe I need to.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You know, expand your horizons, expand my horizons.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Gabby Williams also mine too?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, mine too? Yeah, don't you Williams? Yeah, Gabby. One's
that little sleeve that was number two on that.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Actually that might be my number one.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I might.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I might flip flop those. I might go for Gabby first,
and then if she turns me down, then I'll go
for Tasha.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Tisha Heideman has really risen the rough through the stud buds.
Really beautiful, beautiful eyes. Yeah, and like great vibes, great personality.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I asked Sam her and her answer was was her
was t really? Yeah? Yeah. So I think that that's
a I mean, I think that's a good list. Yep,
I think we need a wand.
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(13:44):
So we have our All Stars for the Pulley for
a Chat. All Stars. Yeah, that was better than the
last one. The other one sounded in like nineteen twenties
news like the news wire. It did, it did. But
so we have the WNBA rosters come out for the
All Star Game, and we got some we got some
(14:05):
t did you see it? Ta?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah. So I feel like this kind of goes back
to what we were talking about right, like where the
fan vote is fifty percent of who gets named to
these rosters. So I want to talk. I want to
ask you a couple of questions about that in a minute,
because I think there's some debate to be had there,
I think.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
But I think once we got into this WNBA topic,
you just got like you just got so serious. It's
so serious. I was like, Oh shit, is something bad coming.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
No. So Kaitlyn Clark Kayln Clark gets one point what
is it three?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
One point three one point three million votes.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
One point three million votes. Despite the fact that she's
been hurt and maybe not performing her best, she still
got one point three, and we already said, like, Kaitlin
Clark is going to be an All Star. That's that's
but there was like a headline that was like Caitlin
Clark get selected number one overall despite being ranked number
nine by the players or something. Here we got and
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it was like, oh, dear Jesus Christ, it's always got
to be controversy. But there is some controversy because some
of the players that were not selected or were not
selected as a starter. We're not so maybe happy about that.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, you've got multiple players like the Erica Hanby she
didn't make it. You have Brianna Jones didn't make it.
It was so Brianna Jones was so interesting because her
GM Dan Pattiver said, very happy for Alicia Gray and
(15:47):
Ryan Howard who did make the All Star team. Well,
actually list who made the All Star Team in just
a second, well deserved. But Brianna Jones not being an
All Star is one of the most ridiculous things I
have seen in quite some time. Breonna Jones is averaging
fifteen to eight. But it's not that crazy, it's not insane.
(16:09):
I know that Natasha Cloud thought she might be an
All Star but she's.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
That That was the biggest surprise to me, to be honest.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
No, But if you look at though, I think Natasha
Cloud benefits a lot from great branding and being on
a great team, because if you look at her stats,
her stats aren't that great. If she's averaging ten points
per game, three rebound, six assists, I.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Think because of her well, I just meant like, I
think because of the way she is in the fan base.
I think that is why it surprised me. I think
it wasn't one of them. But okay, real quick, the
starters going through the starters, Yeah, so Caitlin Clark, Nafisa Collier,
Breonna Stewart, Asia Wilson, Aliah Boston, Neka Page, Beckers, Satoo Sabrina,
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Alicia Gray, Reserves, Sonya Citron, Skyler Diggins, Ryan Howard, Kelsey Mitchell,
Kelsey Plum, Courtney Williams, Gabby Williams, Whoshy Bad, Jackie Young,
Keiky Erie Fen Angel Reese, Alica Thomas, Kayla Thornton.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So we've got one rookie starter and two rookie reserves.
Last year we only had Caitlin and Angel, and it
was a pretty big deal that two rookies made the
All Star Game. Now we have three rookies making the
All Star Game, two from one team.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Two Sonia and Kiki, Yeah, both on.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
And they're not even the best player on their own team.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
That's I think this is the one that has gotten
people kind of the most. You know, Derek a little
rough on Dereka Hanby doesn't even play for the Mystics,
made a comment about Britney Sykes not making it. She said,
whatever about me, but taking two and not including the
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best player from a below five hundred team is crazy.
Meaning taking Sonya and taking Kiki and not taking Brittany
was crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
And Britney sikes real quick, Brittany Sykes. I have her
stats up, Britney Sykes averaging eighteen four Oh okay, well
it wasn't when I looked it up. Eighteen points four
and five assists, one point one steal per game. I
think the real reason Britney Sykes did make it. She
doesn't have the hype the Kiki and Sonya has. But
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also she's fallen off towards the tail end of the
All Star voting, so I think it's branding. I think
it's sort of the concept that Sonya has been playing
way better than they anticipated, or to play. Kiki has
been a double double machine. It's unfair though, I mean,
it is unfair that you've got. If I was Britney Sykes,
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I would be psyched for my teammates.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
That was not a good one.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
That wasn't good.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
No, that was you could do better than that.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I'd be psyched for my teammates. But I would be
feeling some kind of way. I do think I am
happy that Courtney Williams did get a reserve stock because
now we get stud buds like full All Star Weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, they're doing is did she say she's doing a
seventy two hour stream or something like that.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
She's doing a seventy two hour live stream and someone
asked her about it and they said, hey, now that
you're an All Star reserve and that's great and everything,
but like what does this mean for the stream? And
she said, well, I told the folks on the All
Star committee like team might as well be an All
Star too, because she's gonna be joined at with me
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at the hip. That's seventy two hour stream still going,
the phone's not turning off.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
How are they going to charge their phones while they're streaming.
How is a phone not going to go dead? What
are you talking about when they're on the go, say
there's somewhere where they're not near an outlet. Are they
just going to have like little blocks on the back
just charging it? What do you mean? What am I
talking about? I mean there's a good one twenty five.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
You have one of those.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, I know, and it goes fast.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Okay, they probably have more than one. Then it's twenty
twenty five and you can keep things on.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
It's that's not like Okay, I guess it was a
bad question. Then delete it. I guess if you feel
it so bad.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I don't feel it's that bad, But I do want
to have a debate about something. Yes, yes, you take
one side, I'm going to take the other.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Well, which side am I taking it? Should?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I don't know. You can pick which one you want
to take, okay, and I'll just argue with you regardless
of what you pick.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Should.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Fans have fifty percent of the vote in terms of
who makes the All Star.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Roster, so the men's game also has That's what I
thought it was fifty percent fan voe for men's Okay,
I don't think so. I think I've been stumping against
this since twenty twenty at least. I just don't think
that the fans are as informed as the media and
players are. There's plenty of games that are not nationally
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televised and teams that don't have as much hype and
as much smoke around them as say, like the Indiana
Fever or the Las Vegas Aces, or the Minnesota Links
or the Liberty. So it's just going to wait heavier
for players that are doing well on those teams, or
players that are going to have to get a lot
of media and player votes in order for that to
(21:43):
balance itself out. So no, I don't actually think fans
should have more than twenty five percent. I think it
should be I think it should be coach like coaches
like league officials should have twenty five percent, players should
have twenty five media should have twenty five percent, and
(22:04):
fans she have twenty five percent.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Okay, I forgot. I'm debating you for a second, right,
But you like that idea, so like I do like
I do like that idea, and I do think that
that is fair. But for for argument's sake, if you
do put those players in, right, that don't have a
fan following, that are are getting there off of merit
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and merit alone and and no benefit of you know, teammates.
We've got three Indiana Fevers on the you know, on
the three Indiana Fever players on this You've got a
lot of You've got fewer teams represented by more players,
you know, kind of this.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Is the third one, Oh, Kelsey Mitchell. There are seven
c and they have three all Stars. You can't have
three all stars on a seven seat.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
On a seven seat, right, And I think that's fair.
That's fair debate. You know who you leave off? I
don't know, But are you get you have the same
instance though that those are the ones that people are
coming to watch, So do you not include them and
take the risk of the WNBA All Star Game is
not as heavily watched because you have players that are
not as well known. But then again, and I'm arguing
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myself out of this debate, so I'm not being a
very good debater right now, But I guess the argument
to that is that, like, are people still going to
come to watch Kaitlin Clark regardless, Like if Kaitlyn, if
it's Kaitlin Clark and twelve players that no one knows
the name of or people still going to watch. Yes
they are because it's Kaitlyn Clark, But I mean, I
don't know where does that way fans have fifty percent
of the control over what we're watching, you get, so
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now we're not even being exposed to those players that
should be getting the attention, right But I don't know.
I mean, I think it's hard when you're in a
league that's growing, and you're in a league that is
so you know, you've got all these negotiations happening right
now for on value that do you not want to
hype up the value of the people in the league
that are getting the eyeballs on them the most that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
You can, you do, but you don't want to discount
the success that someone like our girl Slim aka Brittany
psych psyches for her teammates is Britain and Brittany psyches
for her teammates at eighteen points per game and almost
two steals per game, and have her teammates who are
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not as good as her and not responsible for winning
games necessarily be there and rookies will they will get
their shot put them in the like development challenges and
stuff and let people get excited about them that way.
It's just sort of disrespectful, I think to the players
who deserve it and don't have as Also, I think.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I also think you were talking about how this models
off itself off NBA, But I also think there's a
huge difference in terms of NBA because you don't have
as many players that are unknown in the NBA, because
you have a wider variety of coverage in terms of
the NBA have you know, it's not just and not
even that, but coming out of college, they have a
(25:00):
wider net of players that are known. Rookies are almost
all virtually known. You have a lot of rookies in
the WNBA who aren't known, you know. So I think
that that's also a tough place to be in. But
I don't know. I mean, I think that's an interesting topic.
I guess we probably should have encouraged people to vote
more than oh, we're getting the sunglasses.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, it's what I want to loosen things up a
little bit. You know, how about this fans vote on
the starters and the rest of the league votes on
the reserves.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Well, that is what happens No, but the.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Fans vote for like fifty percent of everything, don't they.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
No, it's how it's weighted.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's like, yeah, fighty percent. But I'm saying, like the
fans can have a larger percentage for the starters.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
No, yeah, no, actually that is true. The twelve reserve
players are selected by the league's thirteen head coaches.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Oh well, then we just our whole point is just invalid.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And our whole point is kind of moot, So let's
just invalid. Just scratch yeah, just.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Scratch it out. I do think players though, like star
I think that's a valid Well, with Alysa Thomas, for instance,
she's averaging what leads the league in assists nine point
four out. Yeah, the team already has twelve wins, eleventh
in the league in rebounds, averaging one and half steals
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per game. The reason that she's not a starter is
just she just plays a very vanilla brand of basketball,
a very physical brand of basketball, and she's not like
she doesn't have a lot of star qualities to her.
And I like Eliza Thomas, but that's probably why it's
very unfair, and that's why Paige Becker's is a starter
and she is not.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Do you think though that having the w n B
A like I guess in this way though, but you
could theoretically have like so many votes that you could
have Hailey Lift, Haileyanly being an All Star this year.
I mean, we're not, but like, if you weigh that
much weight onto the fan vote, is there not ways
that that can get then manipulated despite having.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, there certainly is. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Speaking of Twitter is turning on Haley van Lift.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Wo our girl, Haley van Lift. It is the tide
has turned. Everybody was mad saying, hey, you know what
Angel mccotry said, which is, hey, if she has ten
thousand followers, is she drafted? And now we got people
being like, yo, get this girl out of the league.
She's she shouldn't be here. Why av her adventure? She's
(27:46):
not ready? Why did Azaiah James get drafted? Not to
the sky. She would have been a perfect edition. And
to that, I say, I told you so, We told
you so.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Let me let me read some of these tweets that
I sent you last from last night, and these are
like all in succession. They're not there's not a good
tweet in between these. It's just bad tweet, bad tweet.
Bad tweet and it's can.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
We read this with a little bit more verve? Be
a troll? Just getting your inner control.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I don't know if I have one.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Okay, well just just channel it, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
HVL is a liability on both ends of the floor.
I don't care what nobody say. HVL is not ready, HVL,
I beg you give us something, so are not happy.
There's many more. I mean, that was like I was
scrolling and I could this was all just from the
(28:44):
game last night. This was live tweeting. I think people
are kind of sick of watching her only have four
points per game, averaging four points per game if she
had one magic moment. She had a one sixteen point game,
and I think a lot of people thought, oh, maybe
the tide is going to turn here on HVL. But
it's it's just it's just not great. Thirty seven thirty
seven and a half percent shooting twenty three point five
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and three points.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
She has a seventeen percent turnover ratio, Sarah, that might
be that might have something to do with.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
It, seventeen percent.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
She has an assisted assist the turnover ratio of one
that is so bad. She has a net rating on
the road, I mean at home of negative sixteen. That's bad,
that's yeah. I mean it's just the stats and the
eyeball test were there before, I think because it was
so little amount of games that she had played, because
(29:41):
she didn't start and she didn't come in until Vander
Sloute got hurt, and so she had only played a
few games. But it's like, what, I know you're not ready.
I can tell you. I'm not hating on you. I
like you. I'm rooting for you to succeed, but I
also know you are not ready. I know your game.
You're not quick enough, you're not strong enough. You just
(30:01):
don't have a yet. And and for people to especially
people in her camp, this is what was so as
the gen Z people would say, like the stylist getting
in our mentions is crazy, is crazy? Talking about solo
tis is crazy. So times is crazy. Keep hvl's name
out your motherfucking mouth. It's like, WHOA, that's called sports analysis.
(30:22):
Hvl's name is gonna be in the mouth and now
it's on Twitter. Say if you want call me HVL.
If you nasty, that's a method, manline.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I got I got ten toes and last I checked,
I got still got all my ten toes, and I'm
going to stand on all of them. In words of
a Maya.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Pa Paia, Yeah, we're standing on ten toes. I told
that to everybody I went on Chicago radio. So I'm
standing ten toes down on exactly what I said about
HBL And if she proves me wrong she becomes an
All Star, congratulations to her for that. Then that means
she's winning and my take was wrong. And until that happens,
ten toes down.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Let's go to tennis. Oh it's been fire, let's rally.
Let's oh that was a good one. There are three
weeks between the French Shop and Roland Garros and Wimbledon,
and a lot of people are saying that's not enough
time for the best players in the world to get
ready for the grass season. I wouldn't know, because I've
never played on either clay or grass. I don't really
(31:23):
know how to play tennis. However, what I will say
is that I believe the people who are telling me this.
Wimbledon though, proof this because there was absolute carnage of
pretty much every woman seated player and there's only four left.
I mean, you've been following the tennis a little more
(31:43):
closely than I have. What have you been picking up
on out there?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I just think there's just been some rough play, right,
Like even s Fiantek today as we're recording, didn't look
as crisp as you would want her to look, right,
And that's what I think overall. Maybe the Madison Keys
of the world, the Cocoa Golfs of the world, their
(32:10):
games maybe don't necessarily I thought Madison Keys had a
game for grass though, so I think you're right. Maybe
it's the turnaround, but this is pretty stunning for all
of these top players to go down as fast and
as early as they have, and to do it in
a way where it's like you lost to who why.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
The first round losses?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, and in straight sets they're losing in just bow
bow You're done, You're out, your.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Home, You're go home. I mean, so now we kind
of look like we're probably gonna end up with a
sable Anca Aniga final, which is probably a little predictable
and maybe not as sexy as you know, but maybe
it is as sexy as we wanted it to be.
But what are we I mean, who are you backing?
I mean, I know who I got I like a fieries,
(33:00):
like a Sablenca. Yeah, I mean I'm gonna I'm gonna
go with that all the way home.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
But what.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Are you pulling for the American? We got one American left.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I like Sabalnca. I think she's a star. I think
she's fun. I want to see what kind of melting
down she does. I like tennis players as well, where
I don't know what's going on, where I don't know
what they're gonna get up to. Are they gonna stare
the other opponent down? Are they gonna bitch to the raft?
Are they gonna break it a racket? Are they gonna
beat the shit out of their body with their racket
(33:29):
until they bleed? Like? I need that stuff. Women don't
do as much. But that's that's who I am.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
But tennis tennis in my mind, and this might not
make any sense, but tennis in my mind is like
the fiery version of golf. You know, Oh yeah, that
doesn't club sport. It's like a it's like the country club,
buttoned up sport. But like in golf, you don't show
your temper tantrums, but like in tennis you do. And
(33:56):
something like a more fiery. I want to talk though
about Naomi Osaka, because as we know, the media loves
to hound Naomi. I will say this as someone who's
kind of gone back and forth on the Naomi. I
(34:17):
don't want to call it a saga, but I feel like,
you know, for the last several years, right, Naomi has
had a very love hate relationship with the media. She
didn't you know, early on, earlier on in her career,
she didn't want to do a lot of press conferences.
She was feeling very attacked by the media. I've also
heard a lot about like how tennis media can be
(34:40):
in general. But after her early exit at Wimbledon, she
had a quote that said, I'm just going to be
a negative human being today. I'm so sorry. I have
nothing positive to say about myself. Honestly right now, I'm
just really upset. So this got aggregated and got everywhere right.
(35:03):
It also got aggregated after a quote from Roland Garross
got aggregated and saying I hate disappointing people. So like,
even with Patrick, I was thinking this just now, but
does he go from working with like the greatest player
ever Strina like to like, what the fuck is this?
You know what I mean, Sorry for cursing. I hope
I don't get fined. And then she walked out of
the press conference because she got upset, and a lot
(35:27):
of people take this and they kind of Naomi's too weak,
Naomi is. She's crashing out, she's falling apart, She's this,
She's that. I really appreciate, though, Naomi's honesty, like like
blatant honesty about her feelings. I'm curious, though, what your
(35:49):
thoughts are.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, I've gone through the waves of emotions on this one,
because the first thing I was I thought was like,
oh is is Naomi? Okay? I am appreciate the honesty,
but you're living and dying with these losses to the
point where it feels like your self worth is like
(36:12):
taking a hit, taking a hit for every loss. And
I was like, man, we need to talk about Naomi
and like how she's doing and whether she needs to
step away from the game again. Right after her Wimbledon
comments that got aggregated again, she says, why is it
every time I do a press conference after a loss,
(36:34):
the ESPNS and the blogs got to clip it and
put it up. What the fuck? Why don't they clip
my press conferences after I win. Sure, I was disappointed
a couple hours ago, and I'm motivated to do better.
That's human emotion. The way they clip me, I feel
like I should be fake happy all the time. So
it kind of feels now after that piece of context
(36:55):
that it was like, you know what, did I get
the nest into thinking think something about Naomi Osaka that
wasn't really true, just based on them aggregating and picking
and choosing what she says in the moment.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I mean, it's possible. I went and looked at the
transcript of the full interview as well as the one
from the front open, and I don't think that they
mistook the context of the interview. Like, I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
They That's not what I mean, Sarah.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Do you mean in general, like the media picks and
chooses what we see of Naomi.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Correct and they only and they only choose to put
pieces of her crashing out. It's almost like, imagine if
Huddah was actually like the most or or actually not that,
not that example. Imagine if all we got from Amaya
in Love Island was the type of energy she was
(37:50):
giving to Ace right, which was like very aggressive talking
over him like really bad behavior types stuff, calling them
a bitch, all this, and we never got the editors
to show us this other side of her that we've
all fallen in love with. They've only shown these things.
Remember when we did the start, but bench cut the
(38:13):
and I cut Amaya. I said, she's gone.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
You did cut. You were quick, you were very quick
to judge.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
And now she's the number one favorite and has a
poppy flavor and it's probably going to be one of
the most branded Love Island characters in history. So she
has her own nickname, and that's because of the editing.
So I think what they've shown us is Naomi as
the ere of the tour instead of maybe like she
(38:41):
has volatile emotions and in the moment she gets really
sad and she reflects back and is like, you know what,
I'm okay, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
So I'm going to give you. I'm going to again
play Devil's advocate. I do agree with you, just to
start that off, like I do that there's probably like
I think that there is a certain way that Naomi
has been shown since twenty twenty one when she withdrew
from the French Open, you know, due to anxiety. I
(39:16):
think that there's been like a narrative that has followed
Naomi that she's like not well, right, Like that's what
it feels like, is like, yeah, it's almost kind of
like those like you know, like back in like the
thirties when they would like whisper about like the woman
who is like going through postpartum and it's like she's
not doing well. Like that's kind of the feeling that
(39:36):
like the media likes to give Naomi, and I don't
necessarily think that like that's a fair insight to give her.
What I will say is that I've been in many,
many control rooms and edit rooms for post match presskers,
you know, or postmatch interviews that happen that you have
(39:59):
to turn it around in fifty seconds to get it
on air, you know, to show a clip and you
have to pick the thirty most compelling seconds of that interview.
And so yes, those comments are probably going to be
when she says, I have nothing good to say about myself,
I'm sorry, Like that isn't That's a SoundBite that's going
(40:20):
to stick out to a producer in an edit room
and they're going to pick it up and they're going
to say, that's what we need to go put out.
I do think that it's a little bit of a
two sided coin. I think, you know, she says these things,
they're not manufacturing that she says them. I think in
the context of her saying it, like yeah, she's pissed
off that she lost. You know, I don't blame her,
she's as an overly sensitive person, and I think Naomi
(40:42):
is probably an overly sensitive person. She's been very open
about her mental health, that she struggles from anxiety, that
she struggles with depression. That I think, like as someone
who myself has as an overly sensitive person who deals
with those types of things, you wear yourself out on
your sleeve a little more. And I think when you
feel like, hey, I'm going to show this part of
(41:04):
myself and be honest about who I am, and then
I get burned for it, like I don't really want
to give you that part of myself anymore. It doesn't
feel safe to give you. So I do think though
I don't want to see Naomi put away who she is.
I want to see Naomi give us the real Naomi.
I don't want to see a fake, happy Naomi. I
want to see the real Naomi because I think that's
(41:25):
an important part of sports, and I think it's an
important part of who these athletes are. They're not just
winning machines. But if she wants to sit there and
say like, hey, I feel really shitty about myself, understanding
that it is probably gonna make Sports Center, but also
like we shouldn't shame her for having those thoughts.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I think she just needs one line to say right after,
which is in twenty four hours, I'm sure I'll feel
way differently, not to be like, hey, is Naomi Spiraling?
The whispers that you're talking about are because she stepped
away for mental health, And because she stepped away, people
are automatically thinking like, well, what why was it so
(42:08):
bad that she needed to step away? How bad was
it was she x Y or Z insert like worst
case scenario? Is she backsliding into that place again? Like
you know, it's almost like uh. I also like a
mom who like thinks about leaving their newborn kid, like
at the fire station, and then anytime she goes out
(42:29):
or like she tells her friends, it's like, oh, like
next time she goes out, uh with the baby to
the grocery store, You're like, is she gonna is she
gonna leave the kid at the fire station again or not.
It's like you're just worried a little bit more heightened
worry based on like the ambiguity of what the stepping
away the last time was, you know, like that analogy
(42:51):
or no, I mean that's fine. It was a bad way.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
I yeah, I mean it was. I don't necessarily know
that I would go with baby at a fire station.
But like it's giving. Women are too hysterical, women are
too emotional. Women can't be president because they cry on
their periods. Type of energy, Like that's the energy it
gives me. Let's move forward, though, Let's move on. I
(43:18):
want to talk about those googly eyes that they got
got us banned. Yes, those googly eyes that got us banned.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
We should put on on our profile. We should put
on our profile Trinity. We love Trinity so much. She
got us banned from Instagram.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
We love Trinity so much. She got us band from Instagram.
That is, it's one hundred percent accurate. Let's talk though,
Because you asked me a question and I said, don't
ask me this right now. I want to answer this.
On the podcast, you said, have we ever seen a
female athlete elevate a male athlete as much as Trinity
(43:56):
has elevated Ben, because you're and I started to think
about it, and I was, I feel like, you're right.
I feel like we don't really ever see a lot
of times when there's a female athlete in a male
athlete relationship. You know, they are are like our royalty,
our sports royalty, right, and we always see, like going
(44:21):
back to HBL, when HBL is playing a game, they
show Jalen Suggs in the stadium. They don't usually do that,
like I've never seen them do that with a lot
of female athletes before, but they're doing it with Trinity.
When Ben is playing there, they have Trinity cam on
the side, like, yes, Taylor fucking Swift, I call yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
I called you today and I said, I've never seen
anything like this. Trinity is is getting the Taylor Swift treatment.
At Wimbledon. We've got four on British broadcasters talking about,
oh yeah, Trinity Rodman one of the premier women's athletes
and of the sport in America. So they were they
(45:02):
brought up, oh yeah, like her Dennis, daughter of Dennis Rodman,
one of the greatest competitors d d DA Da Da da,
And then they said this, they said this, They said, so,
I bet she knows pretty much all of the biggest
names in the sport that you should know. And I
said out loud, I said, Dennis Rodman was not even
in her life. Why would she know Michael Jordan, why
(45:23):
would she know Scottie Pippens. She she has no connection
with Dennis robmin So that set the little arm bells
up to me. And then now Trinity Rodman posts on
Instagram for those who don't know, my name is Trinity,
not Tiffany. Also for Ben's matches, he has his family
there as his support system, which includes his dad. My
(45:47):
dad's not even in my life. No need to bring
him up during his matches when I don't even want
him talked about during mine. It's him and his loved
ones moment. Thank you. More than that, though, is the impact,
and what the impact is to me is me being
(46:07):
like at seven am Western conference time, Western PST whatever,
West Coast, I am turning on my Apple TV and
I am watching Ben Shelton. I am locked in now
on Ben Shelton. These a tremendous watch and he's a
tremendous watch on his own and he's definitely worth. He's
(46:31):
not a scrub. I'm not saying that, but like I think.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
He's Would you have watched him? Would you have gotten
up to watch him?
Speaker 1 (46:38):
No? No. The stardom that he has achieved by being
in Trinity's orbit has allowed the masses to want to
watch him. And we very desperately in this country need
more American stars for us to have an appointment television
situation with and don't have that. And and the match
(47:02):
gave us everything. I know this is in the men's pot,
but like the match gave us everything there was. It
was like very much giving villain and like we had
emotional swings and he's staring the guy down, the guy
staring him down. They're showing Trinity. She's looking nervous, she's
so scared. The dad is up there giving him tips
because the dad is his coach, because his dad made
(47:24):
it to the quarters thirty one years ago at Wimbledon.
So it had everything, but really none of it matters
without the trinity.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
It has trinity. It has Trinity, and that's like, you know,
we talk about that with the whole like Travis Kelsey,
Taylor Swift thing, right, like how many times are we
going to show Taylor Swift at the stadium. Well, we're
gonna show her as many times as we feel like,
because she's Taylor Swift. We're gonna show Trinity Rodman during
good she was.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
She baty alert, batty alert. She was twenty three, she'd
be on the pullar for category. But she's too young.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah, that was another thing that was a struggle for me.
By the way, is not feeling creepy at my old
age talking about the pool of women's athletes who are
averaging like twenty three years old. But back to back
to Ben and Trinity. I think that first of all,
they're so in love that it's adorable, and I think
(48:24):
that that is a big part of it. Like I
think it's that like the way they post each other,
the way they look at each other is just like
I mean, she was literally sitting you could see the
hearts in her eyes when she was looking at him,
and it was just so cute. And I love seeing that.
I love seeing a woman's athlete have that type of impact.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Yes, you you almost for a second forgot that she
was as dominant of an athlete as she is, just
how supportive she was giving big time. I'm the main character,
but I'm happy to play the supporting old character energy,
you know what I mean, Like the character in the
(49:04):
show that just steals the scenes even though they're not
the main That was her, and I just I love that.
I love to see it. And I think probably it
didn't elevate him at all because he was just like
he's a championship caliber tight end. But I think like
the Juilliards, zach Ertz, Combo was like not up there
(49:24):
at all, but like that was like a they were
connected in that way. They mentioned Julie a lot, they
mentioned him a lot when she would play, and she
did not come to his games, to.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
His games, or we just never seen her, but we
have never seen her at the games because the camera
has never looked for Julia in the stadium.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
Sarah, I have one. I have when I have one?
Are you ready? I have to have one? I have one.
This actually might be bigger than Trinity elevating Ben Sheldon
because this guy's not even that good.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Are you about to talk talk about Darren Waller and
Kelsey Plumb.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
No, but that's a big one too. But he was
a good tight end when he was in his prime.
Uh No, I'm going to talk about Simone, Simone Biles
and her husband and everything. He's like a scrub and
she's out there. They're showing Simone Biles and her Green
Bay Packer stuff. And then he moves to a different team,
goes to the Bears. She's still wearing her Green Bay
(50:25):
Packer stuff. Jonathan Owens, he's saying, I'm the prize that
things going viral. The only reason I know Jonathan Owen's
name at all is because of Simone. He goes to
the Olympics and watches her. That's the That's probably more
because he's not a top ten athlete. He's not a
top ten player in his sport, real.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Quick before we move on to talking about other things
like that. But on that point, I do, because on
that point I remember seeing a tweet that was like, Wow,
they're letting I can't believe they're Like Jonathan Owens, his
team is letting him go to the Olympics for like
three weeks and he doesn't have to go to practice,
(51:06):
and I was like, that's because he's not good. Yeah,
that's because he's not gonna play. That's why they're letting
him leave. Two a days is because it doesn't matter.
He's not going to play.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
If it was JJ Watt, We're not allowing you to
go to Paris for the Olympics during two a days.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Sorry, speaking of soccer, let's talk about soccer real quick.
Just the Euros are officially underway and they are already
filled with drama. First of all, they've already outsold the
amount of tickets that they had four years ago for
the Euros, so they're like gonna break all the records
and attendance records. It's just a which we already knew Spain.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Can is that the sound of footsteps on the stairs?
Speaker 2 (51:53):
No, that was very clearly a roller coaster, and he goes.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Whoa, what that's a roller coaster?
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Have you never been on a wooden roller coaster? When
it like no, like it like clicks up. You've never
been on a wooden roller coaster?
Speaker 1 (52:08):
That sounds scary. Wooden roller coaster and me.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Well, have you ever been on a roller coaster?
Speaker 1 (52:14):
Yeah, but they're not wooden.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
So you lived in LA and you never went to
Disney World or Disneyland. No, in California Adventure and went
on that wooden Okay, well then that's not on me,
that's on you for not having the experience to understand
what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
But okay, good, well, that just that that wounded me
so much that I couldn't breathe.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
That wounded you, okay. So anyway back to Spain. Spain
is showing that they are very clearly the favorites six'
two Over. BELGIUM i watched a little bit of that game.
Earlier but our Girl esther From, gotham OUR, nwsl Girly,
Ester she's been a star so. Far, england, though is
(53:00):
in a little bit of a pickle because they lost
their first game To france and now they have to
get out of what many call the what do they
call them when it's a really bad, Pool the death.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Pool the death the pool of, Death, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
The pool of. Death they've Got france and they have The,
netherlands which are like two teams that you do not
want in your, pool because now they're in a must
win against The netherlands to even get out of pool,
play which as the defending, champions is. Insane they lost
the first game Against france to a kind of like,
controversial i should, say offside's call that was ruled. On
(53:35):
they didn't USE. Var they used this like brand new
technology called sat severe assholary over time is, yeah something like.
That it's apparently the point of it was to fix
THE var rulings that take forever and are. Incorrect and
what ended up happening was that The english player the.
(53:58):
Game it would have been a game time. Goal it
was their first, goal but it would have been a
game time goal because the score was two to. One
her shoulder was like like you wouldn't like the human
eye would not be able to pick it. Up but
her shoulder was like this much out in front and
but the rest of her, body like her arms and
(54:18):
her legs were on the were on. Side but because
this part of her shoulder and so people are, Passed they're,
like this is ruining the spirit of the. Game uh.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Yeah english players were not happy tech this is might like,
LISTEN i don't, AGAIN i don't claim to know a
ton about the spirit of, soccer BUT i think offside's
penalty should go. AWAY i think the game would be
much more fun if we didn't have to deal with this.
Bullshit if you can't get to WHERE i, am IF
i can't just go and you would, like what if
(54:49):
nobody follows, me there's dumbness out there on a.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
BREAKWAY i think that there are pluses and minuses to, it, Right,
like you can't get rid of off sides because then
what you would have is you would.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
Have players cherry, picky like you would just put somebody,
there know what.
Speaker 2 (55:09):
You Would you would just park someone in front of
the goal and let them wait, there and then it's
one on one with the. Goalie and that's not. Fair
SO i don't necessarily think, that like off sides should
be a. THING i don't necessarily think that off sides
should be a reviewable thing because if it's not visible
(55:30):
to the naked, EYE i don't necessarily know that it
provides that much of an. Advantage if your shoulder is
centimeters ahead of another player like, that what is?
Speaker 1 (55:41):
That?
Speaker 2 (55:42):
What what advantage do you have on? That you don't
have an, advantage that's not an. Advantage you still have
to you're still even you, know that's just my that's
my personal. Opinion BUT i appreciate your hot.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
TAKE i like that take actually better out of mind
BECAUSE i don't want to see. That but WHAT i
don't like is, This LIKE i just don't, like, oh
they're a millimeter in. FRONT i don't like a player
that has the ball to have to slow up because
they're worried about an. Offside it's. Penalty that's fucking. Bullshit
in my, Opinion it's like you got, Burned LIKE i
(56:13):
don't want to get penalized for burning the shit out of.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
You, WELL i think my issue with it is that
you can have a goal like you. Can you can
run that entire, play go through all of your your,
motions score a, goal and then they can go back
and look at it like from from the beginning of
the possession and, say, oh it was offside right. HERE
(56:36):
i don't like. THAT i think it needs to be
called on the field at the moment of, time like
at the. PLAY i think reviewable with a camera that
is going to pick apart centimeters millimeters of. SPACE i
don't think that that is within the spirit of the.
Game in the same way THAT i think if you
look back at Our World cup when we lost The
World cup And elissa there had that save and it
(56:59):
hit the line like so much that like the human
eye couldn't see it that they had to review it
for ten minutes and then gave them the goal only
to knock us out like, that to me is an
Unfair that is not the point of the. Rule that
is not the point of the V. R it's not
the point of the video. Review the point of the
video review is to see if a player goes, in you,
(57:22):
know spikes up if it was a, handball not if
your should little.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Millimeter So i'm obviously Watch wednesday at nine my Time
england plays The. Netherlands we ALSO i must.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Win also kind of fu Fuck.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
England so that's WHAT i. Feel, yeah we.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Don't we don't Remember Alex morgan's Yea tee? Sip do
you remember? That who are you rocking? With who are
you rocking?
Speaker 1 (57:57):
With? This IF i had to rock with ANY i
don't want to be a front, runner BUT i LIKE i,
like you're gonna Pick. Spain, YEAH i like the style
That spain plays. WITH i just like that.
Speaker 2 (58:12):
Vibe yeah that's.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
FAIR i also like the way that The netherlands plays as.
Well So i'm gonna be root and heavy for The
netherlands On, wednesday double. DUTY i Like, netherlands great place to,
go great place to. Visit Hate, england terrible, food really,
Expensive no sun anywhere and fuck. Them so that's kind
of where, yeah kind of mean bad dental. Hygiene what
(58:36):
do you? Think who are you?
Speaker 2 (58:37):
RIGHT i MEAN i buy, THAT i, KNOW i MEAN
i buy. THAT i Like. SPAIN i like the players
For spain the. Best. Yeah, plus there's not a lot
of there's not a lot of. NATIONS i feel like
in The euros that THE us like doesn't have beef
With like we've ight beef with The, Netherlands we've got
beef with The, England we've got beef beef With. Sweden
(58:58):
AND i feel like those are kind of like the
three teams that like have the highest. SHOT i mean Of.
FRANCE i Like france's friends on The france's team THAT i.
Like but, YEAH i MEAN i would SAY i would
probably Say, SPAIN i probably agree with. YOU i Like,
ESTHER i Like. Alexia there's a couple other players they you,
know their federation's got their own.
Speaker 1 (59:19):
Issues but what's that got to do with? Me like
the players on the, team what's that got to do?
Speaker 2 (59:24):
WELL i mean it's kind of one of those, like,
yeah it's kind of one of those like do you
want other people who are LIKE i don't want to
see THE us win Because Donald trump's in, charge you, know.
Speaker 1 (59:33):
YEAH i mean, again like those people touch grass right like, sorry,
anyway you know What i'm. Saying then what do they
have to do with the people that are? There, NO i,
don't and especially the sporting, team like the sports, team
the sports go, sports go, Sports Yay yay. Sports, sarah
you sound like a girl who's more interested In Love
(59:54):
island than The.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
Euros, no that's not. True WELL i know more About
Love island than The euros right.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Now, Same but we'll get into, it just like we
got Into, wimbledon just like we got into women's.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Softball we're just now Starting i'm myself.
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Now, yeah now That wimbledon is starting to get, little
the roller coaster is ticking, up and so We're i'm
invested In. Wimbledon we got invested in. Softball, LISTEN i
can't be invested in everything at all. Times so now
is my euro's time to put my euro cap on
(01:00:29):
tk T k T k. Football so that's. It that's
all we. Have it was the episode felt, shorter but
it actually went pretty. Long so we'll see how much
cutting you do out of, this how much, Scalpeling probably
a lot of me coughing and a lot of your wood.
Sounds but that's all the time that we have for letter.
Shoot thank you so much for. Watching by the time and.
(01:00:52):
Listening by the time this comes, out hopefully we'll be
out Of instagram. Jail we've been in jail for three.
Days someone bail us. Out we have a special guest
coming in a couple of, weeks maybe next week if
we can EVER dm her because again we're On instagram.
Jail shout out To, Sarah shout out To, sam shout
out To, adrian and shout out to all. Y'all send
(01:01:13):
us your viewer questions in TikTok or In instagram and
we'll get to them at the top of the. Show
we'll see you next week and let her.
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Shoot I'M i hot. GIRL i get ANYTHING i. Want
this is my.
Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
WORLD i make big moves in my big. Hues since
iday THAT i was, Born i've made a big deal
Coming up on our show today, we're breaking down the
all star roster, biggest dubs, biggest snubs. We've got blood
bath in the women's side of Wimbledon, lots of drama.
We're gonna talk about Trinity Robmin and her impact on
the men's side of the game because she is there
supporting Ben Shelton. What favorites are left in Wimbledon for
the women and the Euros are upon us. We're not
(00:21):
completely locked in, but we are starting to get locked in.
We'll talk about some of our favorite teams to watch.
So get yourself the popcorn and pour some tea.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm a hot girl.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I gat anything I want. This is my world. I
make big moves in my big hues. Since the day
there I was born, I've made a big too. How
do I hype the show? When we're in Instagram jail?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
We are? And can I tell you I'm going through
significant withdrawals over this.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Not only are you going through with draws, You're going
through like you're going through the waves of almost like frustration,
like the denial, like the stages of grief.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yes, do you want to know what it is? What
you did? What I did?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Did you open a fake account.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
No, I didn't do that. No, I haven't gotten that far.
But I posted on my own account, which I don't
know what happened, has not happened in like probably like
seven or eight months. I think the last thing I
did was like a twenty twenty four dump, and yeah,
I haven't I haven't posted on my own account, but
(01:32):
I got so thirsty for the likes that I had
to post on my own account. And then it flopped
because I realized that I'm private and I have, you know,
three of the followers, so I don't can never post.
So I'm also in no one's algorithm. So it actually
ended up backfiring and made me feel worse about myself.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, and I can tell that y'all. In the back end,
the things are like just more and more stressed about it.
I'm going off and I'm talking to my metafolks and
I'm like, oh, yeah, I hit my metafolks up and
You're like, well who, I'm like, well, you don't know them,
So why do you want to know?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I need I need to know what I need to
know behind this? Why are they.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Well, because our gen our resident gen z, I kind
of knew it was like because I didn't understand it,
you know, what is it? Well that was not necessary.
So anyway, Trinity and Ben, which we'll talk about later
(02:36):
on the show, and we have to get to the
intro at some point, but anyway, Trinity and Ben, they're
looking at each other longingly. At Wimbledon. It became a
little moment and our resident jen Zo Google eyes, he
had Google eyes and she was just looking up. But
I'm like doting, and it was like, oh, these two
(02:57):
are so cute, don't mind us would just be playing
in traffic and I sent it to the group chat
and I was like, I don't get it is I
don't I don't get why we're playing. Why are we
playing in traffic because it's cute, and it's like, yeah,
it's so cute. We could die. And it's like probably
it was either that or us posting too many like
(03:21):
font clips, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Either way, we got we got a community guideline standard
and then my personal lock. Yeah, well and then you
got that. You fought to get that back and I'm
just saying we're still in jail.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well one hundred your context in fifteen one hundred and
fifteen thousand, followers versus seven thousand. They probably just elevated
a higher because it was my personal but one. I said, guy, no,
I'm not, Come on, what's happening? This brand account is
even more important than my personal building. Yes I did what,
(04:01):
Yes I did? This is what I said? You do
think I said? I said, got my personal back. Don't
have the daily w restriction lifted, which is connected to
my personal But this is even more urgent since it's
a new brand account that we're growing.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
All right, all right, okay, yeah, anyway, welcome to Let
Her Shoot.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
The only podcast where co hosts call each other hose
and bitches. That are women doing it, not men? Oh,
the only podcast that covers women's sports the way that
we want them covered when we're not in jail from Instagram,
no bullshit, no kid gloves, respect for the athletes, respect
for the fans, all the reasons to stay locked in.
Sarah Tchovnik, two time Emmy Award winning producer, it's hoodie
(04:46):
season for her twenty four to seven because she's got
the ac on. Oh sure, Steve, I didn't know that
it's hootie season for me because I got cold this morning. Anyway,
Tristan Creek zero time Emmy Award winning talent. That's the intro.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So you apparently have a big piece of news that
you were unwilling to share with me before this podcast.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So I can share something that I want your genuine
response for. On the podcast, you kept asking what is it?
It's not It's not that important, Sarah for us to
be talking about on the phone. This is a podcast
piece of news.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Okay. I was worried it was banks.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It's it's not bank. Can you Mentionine, if I just
came in and just had like the curtain banks, I
look really not very good with curtain banks. They are
so hard to maintain too. You have to like flatter.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It's bad. I know I had them once.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Oh yeah, anyway, this is my news. We got to
talk about this. So for the very first time, everybody,
I've been clowning. I'm telling you, touch grass. I got
on my cell phone and I downloaded the Love Island
app and I voted for my favorite couple.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Who did you vote for?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I voted for Ace and Shelley. No, it's you, that's
it's my vote.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Are you doing? What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Who did you vote for? Anyway? Backstory if you haven't
been watching listening to the pod, or you missed that episode. Basically,
I was clowning anyone who votes for anything, and we're
gonna talk about WNBA All Star of Snubs in just
a second, which a lot of fans just decided to
take time out of their day and do that.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Maybe we have been encouraging the voting instead.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Maybe any anyway, So I just felt compelled last night
to vote. I felt like a lot of the shit
that Shelley and Aces have been getting has just been
too much. It's been egregious, and I don't want to
come get home. And they've been really Day one. They've
been the only Day one OG's couple there, and I
(06:52):
think that they're just kind of unfairly shamed.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I had the same vote as Cocoa Golf.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You're on Nicolandria, Yeah, I'm in on Nicolandria. I don't
because they like each.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Other or I don't know, just like her. I don't know.
But here's the here's the issue. I don't think anyone
at this point deserves to win this show. Like I
don't think that there is any couple that we're going
to look back on in a year from now and
be like, Wow, what a great couple that they're still
together to this day except me, and like I could
see it. No, that's not who I was going to say.
(07:28):
I was going to say Pepe and Iris new couple,
hot take, because they give me big Leah Miguel vibes
and so like, I'm kind of on board with them.
I think that they could be something, and I'm waiting
to see it play out because we only saw it
for the first time last night, but I went. I
went Nicolandria because I like them as people, and Cocoa
(07:50):
Golf also agrees with me, and I think a lot
of the internet does too, so.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I know that this is not a Love Island show.
But one more take before we moved to actual the
topic at hand, Landry says she's a slow burner, which
I guess is like a Love Island term. There's always
a term, yeah, as a term terms for Love Island,
you know, Yeah, she's a quote unquote I gotta tags
(08:16):
slow burner or whatever. But I just don't think Landry
is a sexual person. I think the concept of anything
romantic or sexual makes her uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
She could be true, she.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Just goes a and I'm like either your curb m
either your curbonim or you're or she's just not into him.
You're just like, well, you're either curbon which is not
into him, or you're just uncomfortable in your own skin
about like, and that's why she doesn't want to kiss
unless there's like a child.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I'll be curious. I'm really curious to see how they
are now that neither of them have anyone else in
the house, since Sierra got that for her racism, and
you know, we'll see, we'll see what happens. That does
bring me kind of two of you were questioned though.
Let's say you're on Love Island, right, there's like a
house full, uh huh of of women's athletes, right, who
(09:10):
are you shooting your shot with?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Who am I pulling for an immediate chat?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Who are you? Who is the first one you're pulling
for a chat?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Oh? I went through an extensive amount of research.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
For this question. I gave you a heads up that
this question was coming.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I would have had a hard time doing this on
the fly, but then when her name came up in
the list, I was like, oh, yeah, that's absolutely who
it is. So I went through like, you know, hottest
female athletes, and then I looked at like ones that
were like, you know, into women. And so the one
that came up that because you don't really want to
(09:45):
like pus one for a chat you know is obviously straight.
Give you it's Candace Parker. It's it's that's a good one, easily,
Candace Parker. And I'll say this, I have Juju. Oh
she bad. No, but she's not just bad though she's
(10:06):
a badass. She is a badass, but when you see
her in person, there is like a star quality to her.
I went to her birthday bashed during w NBA All
Star Weekend two years ago. Juju actually took me and
she I could not stop clawking where she was in
(10:28):
the room. She's one of those people absolutely radiant. She
is very playful and like demonstrative. She's just got so
just charismatic vibes oohs out of her. Apparently she's an
asshole to work with. Like people that I know that
work with her on the brand side of it it
(10:50):
is have said like she's she's really like tough. But
I and like if she says no to pull for
a chat, like you jump off the building, jump off
a building, like that's what you do. But if you
if you make eye contact and she's into it, that
would be fireworks.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
That would be fireworks. I could you know what I would?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I would too.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
She's also married.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, well we're not taking an account. We know her type, right,
She's got a little she's got a white wife.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You're a little small.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Some people are into that. Go ahead, who's yours?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Oh god, Okay, this was hard because it is making
me laugh. Okay, I didn't really like think about this
that hard. And now that you threw out like the
the whole like they need to be gay thing, like
that's kind of like altered my But I'm gonna tell
you who And this is kind of a this is
a dark horse okay, but personality alone, I'm pulling Tasha Cloud.
(11:52):
Oh and and like that would be rare for you
because to mask on mask, yeah, would be mask on
mask crime. You know, I feel like I feel like
the vib Like I don't know, I just really dig
her vibe. Maybe I would just try to get pointers
from her the whole time.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
She would become you would be pulled for a chat,
turn into a wingman, Yeah, like I would.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
But I'm also like kind of curious, you know, like
part of me is like, I mean, I don't know.
Don't knock other people like masks, so don't knock it
till you try it. I don't know, I haven't. I
don't know. Maybe I need to.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You know, expand your horizons, expand my horizons.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Gabby Williams also mine too?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, mine too? Yeah, don't you Williams? Yeah, Gabby. One's
that little sleeve that was number two on that.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Actually that might be my number one.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I might.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I might flip flop those. I might go for Gabby first,
and then if she turns me down, then I'll go
for Tasha.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Tisha Heideman has really risen the rough through the stud buds.
Really beautiful, beautiful eyes. Yeah, and like great vibes, great personality.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I asked Sam her and her answer was was her
was t really? Yeah? Yeah. So I think that that's
a I mean, I think that's a good list. Yep,
I think we need a wand.
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(13:44):
So we have our All Stars for the Pulley for
a Chat. All Stars. Yeah, that was better than the
last one. The other one sounded in like nineteen twenties
news like the news wire. It did, it did. But
so we have the WNBA rosters come out for the
All Star Game, and we got some we got some
(14:05):
t did you see it? Ta?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah. So I feel like this kind of goes back
to what we were talking about right, like where the
fan vote is fifty percent of who gets named to
these rosters. So I want to talk. I want to
ask you a couple of questions about that in a minute,
because I think there's some debate to be had there,
I think.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
But I think once we got into this WNBA topic,
you just got like you just got so serious. It's
so serious. I was like, Oh shit, is something bad coming.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
No. So Kaitlyn Clark Kayln Clark gets one point what
is it three?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
One point three one point three million votes.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
One point three million votes. Despite the fact that she's
been hurt and maybe not performing her best, she still
got one point three, and we already said, like, Kaitlin
Clark is going to be an All Star. That's that's
but there was like a headline that was like Caitlin
Clark get selected number one overall despite being ranked number
nine by the players or something. Here we got and
(15:09):
it was like, oh, dear Jesus Christ, it's always got
to be controversy. But there is some controversy because some
of the players that were not selected or were not
selected as a starter. We're not so maybe happy about that.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, you've got multiple players like the Erica Hanby she
didn't make it. You have Brianna Jones didn't make it.
It was so Brianna Jones was so interesting because her
GM Dan Pattiver said, very happy for Alicia Gray and
(15:47):
Ryan Howard who did make the All Star team. Well,
actually list who made the All Star Team in just
a second, well deserved. But Brianna Jones not being an
All Star is one of the most ridiculous things I
have seen in quite some time. Breonna Jones is averaging
fifteen to eight. But it's not that crazy, it's not insane.
(16:09):
I know that Natasha Cloud thought she might be an
All Star but she's.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
That That was the biggest surprise to me, to be honest.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
No, But if you look at though, I think Natasha
Cloud benefits a lot from great branding and being on
a great team, because if you look at her stats,
her stats aren't that great. If she's averaging ten points
per game, three rebound, six assists, I.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Think because of her well, I just meant like, I
think because of the way she is in the fan base.
I think that is why it surprised me. I think
it wasn't one of them. But okay, real quick, the
starters going through the starters, Yeah, so Caitlin Clark, Nafisa Collier,
Breonna Stewart, Asia Wilson, Aliah Boston, Neka Page, Beckers, Satoo Sabrina,
(16:58):
Alicia Gray, Reserves, Sonya Citron, Skyler Diggins, Ryan Howard, Kelsey Mitchell,
Kelsey Plum, Courtney Williams, Gabby Williams, Whoshy Bad, Jackie Young,
Keiky Erie Fen Angel Reese, Alica Thomas, Kayla Thornton.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So we've got one rookie starter and two rookie reserves.
Last year we only had Caitlin and Angel, and it
was a pretty big deal that two rookies made the
All Star Game. Now we have three rookies making the
All Star Game, two from one team.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Two Sonia and Kiki, Yeah, both on.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
And they're not even the best player on their own team.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
That's I think this is the one that has gotten
people kind of the most. You know, Derek a little
rough on Dereka Hanby doesn't even play for the Mystics,
made a comment about Britney Sykes not making it. She said,
whatever about me, but taking two and not including the
(18:01):
best player from a below five hundred team is crazy.
Meaning taking Sonya and taking Kiki and not taking Brittany
was crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
And Britney sikes real quick, Brittany Sykes. I have her
stats up, Britney Sykes averaging eighteen four Oh okay, well
it wasn't when I looked it up. Eighteen points four
and five assists, one point one steal per game. I
think the real reason Britney Sykes did make it. She
doesn't have the hype the Kiki and Sonya has. But
(18:35):
also she's fallen off towards the tail end of the
All Star voting, so I think it's branding. I think
it's sort of the concept that Sonya has been playing
way better than they anticipated, or to play. Kiki has
been a double double machine. It's unfair though, I mean,
it is unfair that you've got. If I was Britney Sykes,
(18:57):
I would be psyched for my teammates.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
That was not a good one.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
That wasn't good.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
No, that was you could do better than that.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I'd be psyched for my teammates. But I would be
feeling some kind of way. I do think I am
happy that Courtney Williams did get a reserve stock because
now we get stud buds like full All Star Weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, they're doing is did she say she's doing a
seventy two hour stream or something like that.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
She's doing a seventy two hour live stream and someone
asked her about it and they said, hey, now that
you're an All Star reserve and that's great and everything,
but like what does this mean for the stream? And
she said, well, I told the folks on the All
Star committee like team might as well be an All
Star too, because she's gonna be joined at with me
(19:50):
at the hip. That's seventy two hour stream still going,
the phone's not turning off.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Oh I love that.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
How are they going to charge their phones while they're streaming.
How is a phone not going to go dead? What
are you talking about when they're on the go, say
there's somewhere where they're not near an outlet. Are they
just going to have like little blocks on the back
just charging it? What do you mean? What am I
talking about? I mean there's a good one twenty five.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
You have one of those.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, I know, and it goes fast.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Okay, they probably have more than one. Then it's twenty
twenty five and you can keep things on.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
It's that's not like Okay, I guess it was a
bad question. Then delete it. I guess if you feel
it so bad.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I don't feel it's that bad, But I do want
to have a debate about something. Yes, yes, you take
one side, I'm going to take the other.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Well, which side am I taking it? Should?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I don't know. You can pick which one you want
to take, okay, and I'll just argue with you regardless
of what you pick.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Should.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Fans have fifty percent of the vote in terms of
who makes the All Star.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Roster, so the men's game also has That's what I
thought it was fifty percent fan voe for men's Okay,
I don't think so. I think I've been stumping against
this since twenty twenty at least. I just don't think
that the fans are as informed as the media and
players are. There's plenty of games that are not nationally
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televised and teams that don't have as much hype and
as much smoke around them as say, like the Indiana
Fever or the Las Vegas Aces, or the Minnesota Links
or the Liberty. So it's just going to wait heavier
for players that are doing well on those teams, or
players that are going to have to get a lot
of media and player votes in order for that to
(21:43):
balance itself out. So no, I don't actually think fans
should have more than twenty five percent. I think it
should be I think it should be coach like coaches
like league officials should have twenty five percent, players should
have twenty five media should have twenty five percent, and
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fans she have twenty five percent.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Okay, I forgot. I'm debating you for a second, right,
But you like that idea, so like I do like
I do like that idea, and I do think that
that is fair. But for for argument's sake, if you
do put those players in, right, that don't have a
fan following, that are are getting there off of merit
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and merit alone and and no benefit of you know, teammates.
We've got three Indiana Fevers on the you know, on
the three Indiana Fever players on this You've got a
lot of You've got fewer teams represented by more players,
you know, kind of this.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Is the third one, Oh, Kelsey Mitchell. There are seven
c and they have three all Stars. You can't have
three all stars on a seven seat.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
On a seven seat, right, And I think that's fair.
That's fair debate. You know who you leave off? I
don't know, But are you get you have the same
instance though that those are the ones that people are
coming to watch, So do you not include them and
take the risk of the WNBA All Star Game is
not as heavily watched because you have players that are
not as well known. But then again, and I'm arguing
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myself out of this debate, so I'm not being a
very good debater right now, But I guess the argument
to that is that, like, are people still going to
come to watch Kaitlin Clark regardless, Like if Kaitlyn, if
it's Kaitlin Clark and twelve players that no one knows
the name of or people still going to watch. Yes
they are because it's Kaitlyn Clark, But I mean, I
don't know where does that way fans have fifty percent
of the control over what we're watching, you get, so
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now we're not even being exposed to those players that
should be getting the attention, right But I don't know.
I mean, I think it's hard when you're in a
league that's growing, and you're in a league that is
so you know, you've got all these negotiations happening right
now for on value that do you not want to
hype up the value of the people in the league
that are getting the eyeballs on them the most that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
You can, you do, but you don't want to discount
the success that someone like our girl Slim aka Brittany
psych psyches for her teammates is Britain and Brittany psyches
for her teammates at eighteen points per game and almost
two steals per game, and have her teammates who are
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not as good as her and not responsible for winning
games necessarily be there and rookies will they will get
their shot put them in the like development challenges and
stuff and let people get excited about them that way.
It's just sort of disrespectful, I think to the players
who deserve it and don't have as Also, I think.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I also think you were talking about how this models
off itself off NBA, But I also think there's a
huge difference in terms of NBA because you don't have
as many players that are unknown in the NBA, because
you have a wider variety of coverage in terms of
the NBA have you know, it's not just and not
even that, but coming out of college, they have a
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wider net of players that are known. Rookies are almost
all virtually known. You have a lot of rookies in
the WNBA who aren't known, you know. So I think
that that's also a tough place to be in. But
I don't know. I mean, I think that's an interesting topic.
I guess we probably should have encouraged people to vote
more than oh, we're getting the sunglasses.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, it's what I want to loosen things up a
little bit. You know, how about this fans vote on
the starters and the rest of the league votes on
the reserves.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Well, that is what happens No, but the.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Fans vote for like fifty percent of everything, don't they.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
No, it's how it's weighted.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's like, yeah, fighty percent. But I'm saying, like the
fans can have a larger percentage for the starters.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
No, yeah, no, actually that is true. The twelve reserve
players are selected by the league's thirteen head coaches.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Oh well, then we just our whole point is just invalid.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And our whole point is kind of moot, So let's
just invalid. Just scratch yeah, just.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Scratch it out. I do think players though, like star
I think that's a valid Well, with Alysa Thomas, for instance,
she's averaging what leads the league in assists nine point
four out. Yeah, the team already has twelve wins, eleventh
in the league in rebounds, averaging one and half steals
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per game. The reason that she's not a starter is
just she just plays a very vanilla brand of basketball,
a very physical brand of basketball, and she's not like
she doesn't have a lot of star qualities to her.
And I like Eliza Thomas, but that's probably why it's
very unfair, and that's why Paige Becker's is a starter
and she is not.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Do you think though that having the w n B
A like I guess in this way though, but you
could theoretically have like so many votes that you could
have Hailey Lift, Haileyanly being an All Star this year.
I mean, we're not, but like, if you weigh that
much weight onto the fan vote, is there not ways
that that can get then manipulated despite having.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, there certainly is. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Speaking of Twitter is turning on Haley van Lift.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Wo our girl, Haley van Lift. It is the tide
has turned. Everybody was mad saying, hey, you know what
Angel mccotry said, which is, hey, if she has ten
thousand followers, is she drafted? And now we got people
being like, yo, get this girl out of the league.
She's she shouldn't be here. Why av her adventure? She's
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not ready? Why did Azaiah James get drafted? Not to
the sky. She would have been a perfect edition. And
to that, I say, I told you so, We told
you so.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Let me let me read some of these tweets that
I sent you last from last night, and these are
like all in succession. They're not there's not a good
tweet in between these. It's just bad tweet, bad tweet.
Bad tweet and it's can.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
We read this with a little bit more verve? Be
a troll? Just getting your inner control.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I don't know if I have one.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Okay, well just just channel it, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
HVL is a liability on both ends of the floor.
I don't care what nobody say. HVL is not ready, HVL,
I beg you give us something, so are not happy.
There's many more. I mean, that was like I was
scrolling and I could this was all just from the
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game last night. This was live tweeting. I think people
are kind of sick of watching her only have four
points per game, averaging four points per game if she
had one magic moment. She had a one sixteen point game,
and I think a lot of people thought, oh, maybe
the tide is going to turn here on HVL. But
it's it's just it's just not great. Thirty seven thirty
seven and a half percent shooting twenty three point five
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and three points.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
She has a seventeen percent turnover ratio, Sarah, that might
be that might have something to do with.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
It, seventeen percent.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
She has an assisted assist the turnover ratio of one
that is so bad. She has a net rating on
the road, I mean at home of negative sixteen. That's bad,
that's yeah. I mean it's just the stats and the
eyeball test were there before, I think because it was
so little amount of games that she had played, because
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she didn't start and she didn't come in until Vander
Sloute got hurt, and so she had only played a
few games. But it's like, what, I know you're not ready.
I can tell you. I'm not hating on you. I
like you. I'm rooting for you to succeed, but I
also know you are not ready. I know your game.
You're not quick enough, you're not strong enough. You just
(30:01):
don't have a yet. And and for people to especially
people in her camp, this is what was so as
the gen Z people would say, like the stylist getting
in our mentions is crazy, is crazy? Talking about solo
tis is crazy. So times is crazy. Keep hvl's name
out your motherfucking mouth. It's like, WHOA, that's called sports analysis.
(30:22):
Hvl's name is gonna be in the mouth and now
it's on Twitter. Say if you want call me HVL.
If you nasty, that's a method, manline.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I got I got ten toes and last I checked,
I got still got all my ten toes, and I'm
going to stand on all of them. In words of
a Maya.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Pa Paia, Yeah, we're standing on ten toes. I told
that to everybody I went on Chicago radio. So I'm
standing ten toes down on exactly what I said about
HBL And if she proves me wrong she becomes an
All Star, congratulations to her for that. Then that means
she's winning and my take was wrong. And until that happens,
ten toes down.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Let's go to tennis. Oh it's been fire, let's rally.
Let's oh that was a good one. There are three
weeks between the French Shop and Roland Garros and Wimbledon,
and a lot of people are saying that's not enough
time for the best players in the world to get
ready for the grass season. I wouldn't know, because I've
never played on either clay or grass. I don't really
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know how to play tennis. However, what I will say
is that I believe the people who are telling me this.
Wimbledon though, proof this because there was absolute carnage of
pretty much every woman seated player and there's only four left.
I mean, you've been following the tennis a little more
(31:43):
closely than I have. What have you been picking up
on out there?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I just think there's just been some rough play, right,
Like even s Fiantek today as we're recording, didn't look
as crisp as you would want her to look, right,
And that's what I think overall. Maybe the Madison Keys
of the world, the Cocoa Golfs of the world, their
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games maybe don't necessarily I thought Madison Keys had a
game for grass though, so I think you're right. Maybe
it's the turnaround, but this is pretty stunning for all
of these top players to go down as fast and
as early as they have, and to do it in
a way where it's like you lost to who why.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
The first round losses?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, and in straight sets they're losing in just bow
bow You're done, You're out, your.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Home, You're go home. I mean, so now we kind
of look like we're probably gonna end up with a
sable Anca Aniga final, which is probably a little predictable
and maybe not as sexy as you know, but maybe
it is as sexy as we wanted it to be.
But what are we I mean, who are you backing?
I mean, I know who I got I like a fieries,
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like a Sablenca. Yeah, I mean I'm gonna I'm gonna
go with that all the way home.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
But what.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Are you pulling for the American? We got one American left.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I like Sabalnca. I think she's a star. I think
she's fun. I want to see what kind of melting
down she does. I like tennis players as well, where
I don't know what's going on, where I don't know
what they're gonna get up to. Are they gonna stare
the other opponent down? Are they gonna bitch to the raft?
Are they gonna break it a racket? Are they gonna
beat the shit out of their body with their racket
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until they bleed? Like? I need that stuff. Women don't
do as much. But that's that's who I am.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
But tennis tennis in my mind, and this might not
make any sense, but tennis in my mind is like
the fiery version of golf. You know, Oh yeah, that
doesn't club sport. It's like a it's like the country club,
buttoned up sport. But like in golf, you don't show
your temper tantrums, but like in tennis you do. And
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something like a more fiery. I want to talk though
about Naomi Osaka, because as we know, the media loves
to hound Naomi. I will say this as someone who's
kind of gone back and forth on the Naomi. I
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don't want to call it a saga, but I feel like,
you know, for the last several years, right, Naomi has
had a very love hate relationship with the media. She
didn't you know, early on, earlier on in her career,
she didn't want to do a lot of press conferences.
She was feeling very attacked by the media. I've also
heard a lot about like how tennis media can be
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in general. But after her early exit at Wimbledon, she
had a quote that said, I'm just going to be
a negative human being today. I'm so sorry. I have
nothing positive to say about myself. Honestly right now, I'm
just really upset. So this got aggregated and got everywhere right.
(35:03):
It also got aggregated after a quote from Roland Garross
got aggregated and saying I hate disappointing people. So like,
even with Patrick, I was thinking this just now, but
does he go from working with like the greatest player
ever Strina like to like, what the fuck is this?
You know what I mean, Sorry for cursing. I hope
I don't get fined. And then she walked out of
the press conference because she got upset, and a lot
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of people take this and they kind of Naomi's too weak,
Naomi is. She's crashing out, she's falling apart, She's this,
She's that. I really appreciate, though, Naomi's honesty, like like
blatant honesty about her feelings. I'm curious, though, what your
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thoughts are.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, I've gone through the waves of emotions on this one,
because the first thing I was I thought was like,
oh is is Naomi? Okay? I am appreciate the honesty,
but you're living and dying with these losses to the
point where it feels like your self worth is like
(36:12):
taking a hit, taking a hit for every loss. And
I was like, man, we need to talk about Naomi
and like how she's doing and whether she needs to
step away from the game again. Right after her Wimbledon
comments that got aggregated again, she says, why is it
every time I do a press conference after a loss,
(36:34):
the ESPNS and the blogs got to clip it and
put it up. What the fuck? Why don't they clip
my press conferences after I win. Sure, I was disappointed
a couple hours ago, and I'm motivated to do better.
That's human emotion. The way they clip me, I feel
like I should be fake happy all the time. So
it kind of feels now after that piece of context
(36:55):
that it was like, you know what, did I get
the nest into thinking think something about Naomi Osaka that
wasn't really true, just based on them aggregating and picking
and choosing what she says in the moment.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I mean, it's possible. I went and looked at the
transcript of the full interview as well as the one
from the front open, and I don't think that they
mistook the context of the interview. Like, I don't think that.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
They That's not what I mean, Sarah.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Do you mean in general, like the media picks and
chooses what we see of Naomi.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Correct and they only and they only choose to put
pieces of her crashing out. It's almost like, imagine if
Huddah was actually like the most or or actually not that,
not that example. Imagine if all we got from Amaya
in Love Island was the type of energy she was
(37:50):
giving to Ace right, which was like very aggressive talking
over him like really bad behavior types stuff, calling them
a bitch, all this, and we never got the editors
to show us this other side of her that we've
all fallen in love with. They've only shown these things.
Remember when we did the start, but bench cut the
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and I cut Amaya. I said, she's gone.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
You did cut. You were quick, you were very quick
to judge.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
And now she's the number one favorite and has a
poppy flavor and it's probably going to be one of
the most branded Love Island characters in history. So she
has her own nickname, and that's because of the editing.
So I think what they've shown us is Naomi as
the ere of the tour instead of maybe like she
(38:41):
has volatile emotions and in the moment she gets really
sad and she reflects back and is like, you know what,
I'm okay, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
So I'm going to give you. I'm going to again
play Devil's advocate. I do agree with you, just to
start that off, like I do that there's probably like
I think that there is a certain way that Naomi
has been shown since twenty twenty one when she withdrew
from the French Open, you know, due to anxiety. I
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think that there's been like a narrative that has followed
Naomi that she's like not well, right, Like that's what
it feels like, is like, yeah, it's almost kind of
like those like you know, like back in like the
thirties when they would like whisper about like the woman
who is like going through postpartum and it's like she's
not doing well. Like that's kind of the feeling that
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like the media likes to give Naomi, and I don't
necessarily think that like that's a fair insight to give her.
What I will say is that I've been in many,
many control rooms and edit rooms for post match presskers,
you know, or postmatch interviews that happen that you have
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to turn it around in fifty seconds to get it
on air, you know, to show a clip and you
have to pick the thirty most compelling seconds of that interview.
And so yes, those comments are probably going to be
when she says, I have nothing good to say about myself,
I'm sorry, Like that isn't That's a SoundBite that's going
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to stick out to a producer in an edit room
and they're going to pick it up and they're going
to say, that's what we need to go put out.
I do think that it's a little bit of a
two sided coin. I think, you know, she says these things,
they're not manufacturing that she says them. I think in
the context of her saying it, like yeah, she's pissed
off that she lost. You know, I don't blame her,
she's as an overly sensitive person, and I think Naomi
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is probably an overly sensitive person. She's been very open
about her mental health, that she struggles from anxiety, that
she struggles with depression. That I think, like as someone
who myself has as an overly sensitive person who deals
with those types of things, you wear yourself out on
your sleeve a little more. And I think when you
feel like, hey, I'm going to show this part of
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myself and be honest about who I am, and then
I get burned for it, like I don't really want
to give you that part of myself anymore. It doesn't
feel safe to give you. So I do think though
I don't want to see Naomi put away who she is.
I want to see Naomi give us the real Naomi.
I don't want to see a fake, happy Naomi. I
want to see the real Naomi because I think that's
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an important part of sports, and I think it's an
important part of who these athletes are. They're not just
winning machines. But if she wants to sit there and
say like, hey, I feel really shitty about myself, understanding
that it is probably gonna make Sports Center, but also
like we shouldn't shame her for having those thoughts.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I think she just needs one line to say right after,
which is in twenty four hours, I'm sure I'll feel
way differently, not to be like, hey, is Naomi Spiraling?
The whispers that you're talking about are because she stepped
away for mental health, And because she stepped away, people
are automatically thinking like, well, what why was it so
(42:08):
bad that she needed to step away? How bad was
it was she x Y or Z insert like worst
case scenario? Is she backsliding into that place again? Like
you know, it's almost like uh. I also like a
mom who like thinks about leaving their newborn kid, like
at the fire station, and then anytime she goes out
(42:29):
or like she tells her friends, it's like, oh, like
next time she goes out, uh with the baby to
the grocery store, You're like, is she gonna is she
gonna leave the kid at the fire station again or not.
It's like you're just worried a little bit more heightened
worry based on like the ambiguity of what the stepping
away the last time was, you know, like that analogy
(42:51):
or no, I mean that's fine. It was a bad way.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
I yeah, I mean it was. I don't necessarily know
that I would go with baby at a fire station.
But like it's giving. Women are too hysterical, women are
too emotional. Women can't be president because they cry on
their periods. Type of energy, Like that's the energy it
gives me. Let's move forward, though, Let's move on. I
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want to talk about those googly eyes that they got
got us banned. Yes, those googly eyes that got us banned.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
We should put on on our profile. We should put
on our profile Trinity. We love Trinity so much. She
got us banned from Instagram.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
We love Trinity so much. She got us band from Instagram.
That is, it's one hundred percent accurate. Let's talk though,
Because you asked me a question and I said, don't
ask me this right now. I want to answer this.
On the podcast, you said, have we ever seen a
female athlete elevate a male athlete as much as Trinity
(43:56):
has elevated Ben, because you're and I started to think
about it, and I was, I feel like, you're right.
I feel like we don't really ever see a lot
of times when there's a female athlete in a male
athlete relationship. You know, they are are like our royalty,
our sports royalty, right, and we always see, like going
(44:21):
back to HBL, when HBL is playing a game, they
show Jalen Suggs in the stadium. They don't usually do that,
like I've never seen them do that with a lot
of female athletes before, but they're doing it with Trinity.
When Ben is playing there, they have Trinity cam on
the side, like, yes, Taylor fucking Swift, I call yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
I called you today and I said, I've never seen
anything like this. Trinity is is getting the Taylor Swift treatment.
At Wimbledon. We've got four on British broadcasters talking about,
oh yeah, Trinity Rodman one of the premier women's athletes
and of the sport in America. So they were they
(45:02):
brought up, oh yeah, like her Dennis, daughter of Dennis Rodman,
one of the greatest competitors d d DA Da Da da,
And then they said this, they said this, They said, so,
I bet she knows pretty much all of the biggest
names in the sport that you should know. And I
said out loud, I said, Dennis Rodman was not even
in her life. Why would she know Michael Jordan, why
(45:23):
would she know Scottie Pippens. She she has no connection
with Dennis robmin So that set the little arm bells
up to me. And then now Trinity Rodman posts on
Instagram for those who don't know, my name is Trinity,
not Tiffany. Also for Ben's matches, he has his family
there as his support system, which includes his dad. My
(45:47):
dad's not even in my life. No need to bring
him up during his matches when I don't even want
him talked about during mine. It's him and his loved
ones moment. Thank you. More than that, though, is the impact,
and what the impact is to me is me being
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like at seven am Western conference time, Western PST whatever,
West Coast, I am turning on my Apple TV and
I am watching Ben Shelton. I am locked in now
on Ben Shelton. These a tremendous watch and he's a
tremendous watch on his own and he's definitely worth. He's
(46:31):
not a scrub. I'm not saying that, but like I think.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
He's Would you have watched him? Would you have gotten
up to watch him?
Speaker 1 (46:38):
No? No. The stardom that he has achieved by being
in Trinity's orbit has allowed the masses to want to
watch him. And we very desperately in this country need
more American stars for us to have an appointment television
situation with and don't have that. And and the match
(47:02):
gave us everything. I know this is in the men's pot,
but like the match gave us everything there was. It
was like very much giving villain and like we had
emotional swings and he's staring the guy down, the guy
staring him down. They're showing Trinity. She's looking nervous, she's
so scared. The dad is up there giving him tips
because the dad is his coach, because his dad made
(47:24):
it to the quarters thirty one years ago at Wimbledon.
So it had everything, but really none of it matters
without the trinity.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
It has trinity. It has Trinity, and that's like, you know,
we talk about that with the whole like Travis Kelsey,
Taylor Swift thing, right, like how many times are we
going to show Taylor Swift at the stadium. Well, we're
gonna show her as many times as we feel like,
because she's Taylor Swift. We're gonna show Trinity Rodman during
good she was.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
She baty alert, batty alert. She was twenty three, she'd
be on the pullar for category. But she's too young.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah, that was another thing that was a struggle for me.
By the way, is not feeling creepy at my old
age talking about the pool of women's athletes who are
averaging like twenty three years old. But back to back
to Ben and Trinity. I think that first of all,
they're so in love that it's adorable, and I think
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that that is a big part of it. Like I
think it's that like the way they post each other,
the way they look at each other is just like
I mean, she was literally sitting you could see the
hearts in her eyes when she was looking at him,
and it was just so cute. And I love seeing that.
I love seeing a woman's athlete have that type of impact.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Yes, you you almost for a second forgot that she
was as dominant of an athlete as she is, just
how supportive she was giving big time. I'm the main character,
but I'm happy to play the supporting old character energy,
you know what I mean, Like the character in the
(49:04):
show that just steals the scenes even though they're not
the main That was her, and I just I love that.
I love to see it. And I think probably it
didn't elevate him at all because he was just like
he's a championship caliber tight end. But I think like
the Juilliards, zach Ertz, Combo was like not up there
(49:24):
at all, but like that was like a they were
connected in that way. They mentioned Julie a lot, they
mentioned him a lot when she would play, and she
did not come to his games, to.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
His games, or we just never seen her, but we
have never seen her at the games because the camera
has never looked for Julia in the stadium.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
Sarah, I have one. I have when I have one?
Are you ready? I have to have one? I have one.
This actually might be bigger than Trinity elevating Ben Sheldon
because this guy's not even that good.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Are you about to talk talk about Darren Waller and
Kelsey Plumb.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
No, but that's a big one too. But he was
a good tight end when he was in his prime.
Uh No, I'm going to talk about Simone, Simone Biles
and her husband and everything. He's like a scrub and
she's out there. They're showing Simone Biles and her Green
Bay Packer stuff. And then he moves to a different team,
goes to the Bears. She's still wearing her Green Bay
(50:25):
Packer stuff. Jonathan Owens, he's saying, I'm the prize that
things going viral. The only reason I know Jonathan Owen's
name at all is because of Simone. He goes to
the Olympics and watches her. That's the That's probably more
because he's not a top ten athlete. He's not a
top ten player in his sport, real.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Quick before we move on to talking about other things
like that. But on that point, I do, because on
that point I remember seeing a tweet that was like, Wow,
they're letting I can't believe they're Like Jonathan Owens, his
team is letting him go to the Olympics for like
three weeks and he doesn't have to go to practice,
(51:06):
and I was like, that's because he's not good. Yeah,
that's because he's not gonna play. That's why they're letting
him leave. Two a days is because it doesn't matter.
He's not going to play.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
If it was JJ Watt, We're not allowing you to
go to Paris for the Olympics during two a days.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Sorry, speaking of soccer, let's talk about soccer real quick.
Just the Euros are officially underway and they are already
filled with drama. First of all, they've already outsold the
amount of tickets that they had four years ago for
the Euros, so they're like gonna break all the records
and attendance records. It's just a which we already knew Spain.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Can is that the sound of footsteps on the stairs?
Speaker 2 (51:53):
No, that was very clearly a roller coaster, and he goes.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Whoa, what that's a roller coaster?
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Have you never been on a wooden roller coaster? When
it like no, like it like clicks up. You've never
been on a wooden roller coaster?
Speaker 1 (52:08):
That sounds scary. Wooden roller coaster and me.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Well, have you ever been on a roller coaster?
Speaker 1 (52:14):
Yeah, but they're not wooden.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
So you lived in LA and you never went to
Disney World or Disneyland. No, in California Adventure and went
on that wooden Okay, well then that's not on me,
that's on you for not having the experience to understand
what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
But okay, good, well, that just that that wounded me
so much that I couldn't breathe.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
That wounded you, okay. So anyway back to Spain. Spain
is showing that they are very clearly the favorites six'
two Over. BELGIUM i watched a little bit of that game.
Earlier but our Girl esther From, gotham OUR, nwsl Girly,
Ester she's been a star so. Far, england, though is
(53:00):
in a little bit of a pickle because they lost
their first game To france and now they have to
get out of what many call the what do they
call them when it's a really bad, Pool the death.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Pool the death the pool of, Death, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
The pool of. Death they've Got france and they have The,
netherlands which are like two teams that you do not
want in your, pool because now they're in a must
win against The netherlands to even get out of pool,
play which as the defending, champions is. Insane they lost
the first game Against france to a kind of like,
controversial i should, say offside's call that was ruled. On
(53:35):
they didn't USE. Var they used this like brand new
technology called sat severe assholary over time is, yeah something like.
That it's apparently the point of it was to fix
THE var rulings that take forever and are. Incorrect and
what ended up happening was that The english player the.
(53:58):
Game it would have been a game time. Goal it
was their first, goal but it would have been a
game time goal because the score was two to. One
her shoulder was like like you wouldn't like the human
eye would not be able to pick it. Up but
her shoulder was like this much out in front and
but the rest of her, body like her arms and
(54:18):
her legs were on the were on. Side but because
this part of her shoulder and so people are, Passed they're,
like this is ruining the spirit of the. Game uh.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Yeah english players were not happy tech this is might like,
LISTEN i don't, AGAIN i don't claim to know a
ton about the spirit of, soccer BUT i think offside's
penalty should go. AWAY i think the game would be
much more fun if we didn't have to deal with this.
Bullshit if you can't get to WHERE i, am IF
i can't just go and you would, like what if
(54:49):
nobody follows, me there's dumbness out there on a.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
BREAKWAY i think that there are pluses and minuses to, it, Right,
like you can't get rid of off sides because then
what you would have is you would.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
Have players cherry, picky like you would just put somebody,
there know what.
Speaker 2 (55:09):
You Would you would just park someone in front of
the goal and let them wait, there and then it's
one on one with the. Goalie and that's not. Fair
SO i don't necessarily think, that like off sides should
be a. THING i don't necessarily think that off sides
should be a reviewable thing because if it's not visible
(55:30):
to the naked, EYE i don't necessarily know that it
provides that much of an. Advantage if your shoulder is
centimeters ahead of another player like, that what is?
Speaker 1 (55:41):
That?
Speaker 2 (55:42):
What what advantage do you have on? That you don't
have an, advantage that's not an. Advantage you still have
to you're still even you, know that's just my that's
my personal. Opinion BUT i appreciate your hot.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
TAKE i like that take actually better out of mind
BECAUSE i don't want to see. That but WHAT i
don't like is, This LIKE i just don't, like, oh
they're a millimeter in. FRONT i don't like a player
that has the ball to have to slow up because
they're worried about an. Offside it's. Penalty that's fucking. Bullshit
in my, Opinion it's like you got, Burned LIKE i
(56:13):
don't want to get penalized for burning the shit out of.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
You, WELL i think my issue with it is that
you can have a goal like you. Can you can
run that entire, play go through all of your your,
motions score a, goal and then they can go back
and look at it like from from the beginning of
the possession and, say, oh it was offside right. HERE
(56:36):
i don't like. THAT i think it needs to be
called on the field at the moment of, time like
at the. PLAY i think reviewable with a camera that
is going to pick apart centimeters millimeters of. SPACE i
don't think that that is within the spirit of the.
Game in the same way THAT i think if you
look back at Our World cup when we lost The
World cup And elissa there had that save and it
(56:59):
hit the line like so much that like the human
eye couldn't see it that they had to review it
for ten minutes and then gave them the goal only
to knock us out like, that to me is an
Unfair that is not the point of the. Rule that
is not the point of the V. R it's not
the point of the video. Review the point of the
video review is to see if a player goes, in you,
(57:22):
know spikes up if it was a, handball not if
your should little.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
Millimeter So i'm obviously Watch wednesday at nine my Time
england plays The. Netherlands we ALSO i must.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Win also kind of fu Fuck.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
England so that's WHAT i. Feel, yeah we.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Don't we don't Remember Alex morgan's Yea tee? Sip do
you remember? That who are you rocking? With who are
you rocking?
Speaker 1 (57:57):
With? This IF i had to rock with ANY i
don't want to be a front, runner BUT i LIKE i,
like you're gonna Pick. Spain, YEAH i like the style
That spain plays. WITH i just like that.
Speaker 2 (58:12):
Vibe yeah that's.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
FAIR i also like the way that The netherlands plays as.
Well So i'm gonna be root and heavy for The
netherlands On, wednesday double. DUTY i Like, netherlands great place to,
go great place to. Visit Hate, england terrible, food really,
Expensive no sun anywhere and fuck. Them so that's kind
of where, yeah kind of mean bad dental. Hygiene what
(58:36):
do you? Think who are you?
Speaker 2 (58:37):
RIGHT i MEAN i buy, THAT i, KNOW i MEAN
i buy. THAT i Like. SPAIN i like the players
For spain the. Best. Yeah, plus there's not a lot
of there's not a lot of. NATIONS i feel like
in The euros that THE us like doesn't have beef
With like we've ight beef with The, Netherlands we've got
beef with The, England we've got beef beef With. Sweden
(58:58):
AND i feel like those are kind of like the
three teams that like have the highest. SHOT i mean Of.
FRANCE i Like france's friends on The france's team THAT i.
Like but, YEAH i MEAN i would SAY i would
probably Say, SPAIN i probably agree with. YOU i Like,
ESTHER i Like. Alexia there's a couple other players they you,
know their federation's got their own.
Speaker 1 (59:19):
Issues but what's that got to do with? Me like
the players on the, team what's that got to do?
Speaker 2 (59:24):
WELL i mean it's kind of one of those, like,
yeah it's kind of one of those like do you
want other people who are LIKE i don't want to
see THE us win Because Donald trump's in, charge you, know.
Speaker 1 (59:33):
YEAH i mean, again like those people touch grass right like, sorry,
anyway you know What i'm. Saying then what do they
have to do with the people that are? There, NO i,
don't and especially the sporting, team like the sports, team
the sports go, sports go, Sports Yay yay. Sports, sarah
you sound like a girl who's more interested In Love
(59:54):
island than The.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
Euros, no that's not. True WELL i know more About
Love island than The euros right.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Now, Same but we'll get into, it just like we
got Into, wimbledon just like we got into women's.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Softball we're just now Starting i'm myself.
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Now, yeah now That wimbledon is starting to get, little
the roller coaster is ticking, up and so We're i'm
invested In. Wimbledon we got invested in. Softball, LISTEN i
can't be invested in everything at all. Times so now
is my euro's time to put my euro cap on
(01:00:29):
tk T k T k. Football so that's. It that's
all we. Have it was the episode felt, shorter but
it actually went pretty. Long so we'll see how much
cutting you do out of, this how much, Scalpeling probably
a lot of me coughing and a lot of your wood.
Sounds but that's all the time that we have for letter.
Shoot thank you so much for. Watching by the time and.
(01:00:52):
Listening by the time this comes, out hopefully we'll be
out Of instagram. Jail we've been in jail for three.
Days someone bail us. Out we have a special guest
coming in a couple of, weeks maybe next week if
we can EVER dm her because again we're On instagram.
Jail shout out To, Sarah shout out To, sam shout
out To, adrian and shout out to all. Y'all send
(01:01:13):
us your viewer questions in TikTok or In instagram and
we'll get to them at the top of the. Show
we'll see you next week and let her.
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Shoot I'M i hot. GIRL i get ANYTHING i. Want
this is my.
Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
WORLD i make big moves in my big. Hues since
iday THAT i was, Born i've made a big deal
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