February 23, 2022 • 25 mins
Max finds himself at the center of the killer's poisonous plans.
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Shelly Shenoy as Wyn
Matt Gumley as Max
Luke Slattery as Oly
Rachel Oremland as Ella
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, lethal listeners, take Torres here. Stay tuned for the
next episode of Lethal Lit. But first, here's a quick
word from our sponsor. H Hello, Tick, Yes, I hope
(00:22):
it's not too late. Jane Ferranti, producer of Something in
the Water. She's an amazing journalist and kind of a legend.
Oh hi, Jane, No, definitely not too late. Always have
time for you. I just got off the phone with
a medical examiner who will do anything for homie brownies,
even if they're not actually homemade. Half a minute to talk,
(00:43):
of course. The sudden death of the antique store owner,
Stephanie Reid had me convinced something was again not right
in the town of Hollow Falls, but the doctor insisted
it was a natural death and wouldn't give me the
time of day. Jane did, though, take your hunch was right.
They found strict nine, otherwise known as rat poison and
(01:04):
listen to this. After reviewing the details, they decided to
go back and do another autopsy on Rock Monitue. I
want to guess what they found. Strict nine. Looks like
you've got a serial killer on your hands. I shouldn't
have felt proud to hear her say that, but I did,
(01:25):
and in a sick, twisted way, I also felt excited
that there was a new mystery to solve. I guess
that's what life and hollow Falls will do to you.
I'm tig Torres and this is lethal lit two victims,
(02:09):
each with a music box nearby. I had the means
strict nine, and I had a lead suspect Harris. But
that's where things get complicated. Max was involved with him,
had genuine feelings for him, and I didn't handle that well.
I couldn't help it. I got that feeling, the feeling
(02:31):
I had when the lit killer murders were happening, that
it was only a matter of time until another body
dropped m hm. I needed to apologize to Max, but
also protect Max, which, if I was right, was more
important than his feelings. Wind came along to make sure
I didn't make things worse. Welcome to the Montague Hotel, Hi, Max, Max. Max,
(03:01):
let's have a lot in your hand when you're greeting guests.
It no, sir, it's a cup of water to melt
you with you which and how may I help you? Max?
I wanted to apologize for coming off so intense yesterday.
I'm sorry I was really shortsighted, and I let my
ambition to find out more about Harris override your feelings
(03:23):
for him. And but I still think we need to
talk about him. M I see, do you have a
reservation with us? Max? Tag and Ella did over hear
some pretty shady stuff at that antique store, and he
hasn't come forward to the police about being the last
person to see Stephanie alive, last besides Tag and Ella.
You mean, I'm sorry, ladies, I don't seem to have
(03:46):
a record of you in my system. I'm sure you're
not both here to discuss personal matters, as that would
get me in trouble with the OGRE currently observing security
cameras in the office directly behind me. Perhaps you made
a reservation under a different name, Max. As painful as
this is, we have to talk about it. It's really
important one moment, and I'll check on that for you.
You don't like Harris and you don't approve of my
(04:07):
being in a relationship with him. He's a suspect. Why
how he was badgering Brock moments before he died, Plus
the stuff we overheard at the antique store, the music
boxes and then Stephanie. There's no proof there's even been
a murder. Brock Montague had a heart attack and the
antique lady had a seizure. No, Max, they were both poisoned.
(04:27):
The coroner confirmed it half an hour ago. Now have
you seen anything suspicious? You know, I've been too busy
sipping on the latte that my beautiful, thoughtful boyfriend bought me,
and I guess I forgot to indulge in any wild
conspiracy theories this morning. You've got to listen to me.
Someone else could die. Max. Excuse me, I've listened. I'm
(04:48):
not convinced. Now let me do my job. Yes, I
have a delivery here for Max Wyneman. That's me have
a nice day. That's a personal package. Uh no, Walter,
it's it's a guest ledger I ordered to surprise you. Oh,
(05:13):
it's from Harris. Less than a full month into a
relationship and he can't keep himself from sending me surprises. Yeah,
well that's nice. Next, put that latte down, tigs thing,
(05:34):
just an accident, cleaning it up. Now we have to
get you to the hospital right now. What the hell
is wrong with you? There's rat poison in that latte? Well,
(06:02):
now I know why people don't get their stomachs pumped
for fun. How are you feeling, Max? Mm hmm? Like
Andy Cohen after taping a Housewives reunion, Badgered, exhausted, wondering
why the hell I'm alive? The doctor says, you're all right, wonderful. Well,
I hope you've got everything you wanted from this delightful
(06:22):
experienced Tig, Let's do it again sometime. You're not safe here. Max,
We're going to take you home. You're being crazy. Tig
Brock and Stephanie both died within minutes of getting a
music box. If Harris or whoever it is is coming
after you, then there's a good chance he'll try and
make another move tonight. Shouldn't we call the police then
(06:43):
and tell them what you can explain your little theory?
Or does that mean having to tell them the truth
about your antique store? B and E. We're going to
stay with you tonight. Max. I'm sorry. I refuse to
believe that Harris would try to hurt me. It just
doesn't make sense. He's our only serious lead right now,
Harris and Ali. Yeah, but why would Ali want to
(07:08):
kill Max Um? Maybe because we stopped him from fulfilling
his murder dreams of killing you. I would either of them.
What the hell did I do? I don't know. But
we're not leading your side. No one's getting anywhere near you.
Story of my life. I was acting a lot more
certain than I really was. The truth is, it didn't
(07:32):
all make sense to me. Max had a good point.
Why would Harris want him dead? And why put his
return address on the music box package? And what possible
connection could there be between brock Montacue, Stephanie and Max,
a millionaire playboy, an antique store owner, and the high
school junior currently leading the voting for most organized locker. Still,
(07:57):
there was what I overheard at the antique store. Kay,
was I paranoid at the time? I reasoned to myself
that it's safer to be paranoid when a friend's life
is in the balance. Well, isn't this great? A prisoner
(08:19):
in my own home forced to eat clam chowder straight
out of the can? Can't we at least order from
the star. We can't risk anyone touching your food, not
even Phil. So what's the plan exactly? Well, we stay
here with you until you're out of danger, which will
be until that's reassuring um the three of us can
(08:44):
sleep in shifts. That way someone's always on the lookout
makes sense. I think the first thing to do is now,
who do you think that might be? Hey Lee? The
listeners stay tuned more. Leathal Lid is up next, but
first a quick word from our sponsor, hey Lee, the
(09:20):
listeners take Torres here. There's always more to the mystery,
and I could use your help getting to the bottom
of it. Join us on Instagram and TikTok at I
am tig Torres for more clues and inside info. Do
you have a baseball bat? Do I look like i'd
have a baseball bat? What about a kitchen right in
the kitchen? Show Look, we're armed in here and extremely dangerous.
(09:44):
We called nine one one, the police are on their way.
Come on, open up in there, l You almost gave
me a heart attack. Are you seriously doing an all
night vigil without me? Weren't you grounded after getting dropped
off by a squad car last night? I can't believe
you asked them to show for you home and literally
(10:04):
use the words chauffeur. I can't believe you stayed at
the hospital. What'd you do walk home? Really anyway, I
got a twenty minute lecture on political optics and a
new bag for keeping it out of the papers. So
we're going to continue keeping it out of the papers? Right?
I really want that back? And how did you know
(10:25):
we were here? Dig out of me to the group chat? Oh? Really,
big step? Well, then, welcome to the party. It feels
like a funeral in here. Don't you guys know how
to do a sleepover? Sure? So cute? All right? Never
(10:55):
have I ever kissed a girl? Who? Who? Who? Alright? Alright, alright,
calm down. It was fifth freaking grade with this random girl, Kelsey.
I was hoping i'd absorb her abilities with men without
also absorbing her red hair, Jean, can you imagine me
as a ginger when I kissed Annie? Of course? And
(11:19):
then there was this girl at camp. Oh my god,
Annie and I haven't thought about that psycho and forever. Okay,
she's not a psycho. I still follow her on the ground.
She's got a pug. She makes little hats for it.
Who's Annie Win's first official girlfriend? She goes to Freman Prep. Now, wait,
(11:40):
didn't you bring her to the end of the year formal?
That's right, she was hitting on Katie Briggs, our head cheerleader,
something pretty fierce, and that was one of your healthier relationships. Really,
who else were you in? Okay? Enough attention on when
we're still playing a game, are we not? Okay? Let's see.
Never have I ever developed real feelings for an actual psycho,
(12:06):
like a potential serial killer? For example, Harris is not
a psycho? Who said I was talking about you? I
bet psycho killers make very passionate lovers. You know what?
Can we not talk about psycho killers for like one
glorious evening? Please? I'm serious? You're right, my bad? Look,
none of you know Harris? Okay, It's not like I'm
(12:28):
so unbelievably desperate for affection that I look past murder.
That's not what I said. Sure feels like it, believe me, Max.
Everyone here knows. I'm in no position to judge you.
But even assuming he's innocent, Harris still gives off shady vibes.
(12:48):
Can I ask, what do you see in him? I
really want to know? Yeah, I'm kind of curious too. Well.
I'm he's gorge for one, he knows what he wants
and he's not afraid to go for it. He's not
like other people in this town, just letting themselves be
dragged whichever way life happens to take them. He's got plans.
(13:12):
He makes me feel like I can be whatever I
want to be. And unlike most of the superficial idiots
on Grinder, he actually thinks these scars on my face
or kind of hot? How? Who am I kidding? I
want attention so badly, I'll look past anything. Now it
(13:34):
turns out he's a murdering psychopath. Of course he is.
Isn't that just exactly who I'd fall for. I can't
believe I was so stupid. I think that what we
had was real. Hey, don't say that, you're not stupid.
(13:55):
And maybe it is real. There's no denying the music
box and the inks. And I felt so special when
he brought me that lattape, but then it was a
death latte. I think both things can be true. A
person can have real feelings for you, and they can
(14:15):
also want to hurt you. Who are we talking about,
Tig Maybe it's just a side of himself he can't control.
Maybe it's how he was raised. Everyone has control over
the choices. They make you deserve better. Max. I'm just
saying it happens, don't hate on yourself. Max. Did you
(14:43):
know I never cried when Tony was killed? Isn't that crazy?
It wasn't until after I was at the mall trying
out new eyeliner, treating myself. It just started falling and
I couldn't stop for three day. Oh Ella, honey, come here,
(15:04):
take okay, I ms Ali. I still think about him
a lot. We all do, Tig, even though it turns
out we didn't know him like we thought we did,
only was a friend for a long time. Some of
(15:24):
it had to be real. I don't know. I have
to tell you all something. What is it, Tig? I.
I'm really glad you're all my friends here, you guys
group hug. I'll look at us. Oh Ella, your nails,
(15:46):
my dad? You know. I'm glad my dad moved me
to Hollow Falls, even though Denise, my spiritual advisor, says
the whole town is haunted. You don't believe in ghosts, now,
do you know? But as Denise told you, you can
be haunted by grief. You can't deny that that's true.
(16:07):
Wouldn't it be nice if there was something we could
do about that, like some kind of exorcism or something,
so we could all just get on with our lives.
I can't wait to get the hell out of this place.
It just eats people alive and make some Michelin star
meal out of their dreams. If that all right, I'm
walking off that stage of graduation and right out of town.
(16:28):
You watch, We know you will, Max. Yeah, if anyone can,
it's you? God? What time is it? Almost two? You're tired?
You kidding? The night is still young, queen? When I
will tell you what I have? Mhmm. Looks like they're
(16:53):
both out. Ella sleeps like she's posing for a selfie.
I uh, you can rest your eyes if you want.
I can keep watching. No, no, I mean unless you'd
rather be alone. If you're uncomfortable spending the night together
with me, well, I don't know. Would Annie be jealous?
(17:18):
Annie is with a guy now right. Also, she wasn't
the jealous type, far from it, truth be told. She
wasn't that into me. Good kiss her though? Oh yeah?
Like how well, it's hard to put into words. You're
(17:43):
not waiting for me to lean in and kiss you,
are you? No, you're not waiting for me to lean
in and kiss you? Are you, of course not. Okay,
then we're on the same page. Then yeah, I mean
(18:08):
this would be a pretty romantic time for a kiss, though,
wouldn't It seems like it? What was that? Oh crap, Max?
Wake up? Someone's at the door. What what's happening? Is
(18:30):
it your parents? No, they're a wait till the end
of the week. Grab the skillet, Ella, There are scissors
on the counter. When they get your knife, bax, Oh,
Maxie Harris, don't come any closer. I am fully prepared
to use these scissors. What are you gonna do? Give
(18:51):
me bangs? What's going on in here? Max? Wait? Did
I walk in and a sleepover? It's some cozy in here.
We're not going to let you hurt Max. Hurt Max?
How did you get in? Did you steal a key
to Max's house and make it? What are you talking about?
You want drugs? Look, he gave me the key. Okay,
(19:11):
Oh my god, I didn't know what What were you thinking?
I gave him a copy while my parents are away.
It seemed like a good idea at the time. Okay, seriously,
what's going on here? They know about us. I told
them you can't say anything about this. My father would
kill me, dude, Please, he disn't just come about disinherit me.
(19:35):
What do you want? Max got your little music box? Oh?
I see, and you went in right about time? We
want in to? What to killing him? Why do you
want Max dead? Want him dead? What are you talking about?
It was a present, the first of its kind. And
(19:56):
I have even more ideas of products for the Hollow
Falls Murder Lover's Gifts Murder Lovers. I should be selling
a couple of packages what I'm still working on the title.
I wanted to be in the Montague, just off the lobby.
I got key chains, mugs, I visited Hollow Falls and
lived to tell about it, T shirts. I've got the
floor plan all mapped out. But then Brock was, well,
(20:18):
you know, so the projects on pass for a while.
That Walter is next to impossible to work with, right evil?
See I told you guys, so that's why you were
at the antique store. Yeah. Stephanie's in touch with the
vendor overseas who was like so cheap by I don't
even want to know how much they pay their workers.
She gets sold a lot of her work done that way.
(20:40):
Some of her antiques aren't so antique. But sh it's
a secret, Harris. Didn't you hear Stephanie's dead? Dude? What
right after you were in her store last night? Strict
nine poisoning? Oh god, no, no, no, no, no, this
(21:02):
this is terrible. How am I going to find another vendor? Vendor?
I guess I could do license plate frames, but no,
those those music boxes were going to launch my mail
over business. It's okay, it's okay. Is this guy serious
right now? I'm sorry, You're right. I just I meant
to say, it's very sad. I guess wait, how did
(21:27):
you know I was in her store last night? Um?
We had a wait a minute, what are you doing
sneaking in here at this time of night? Tig? Really
you're a detective. I think you can figure this one out.
Look like I was wrong about Harris being the killer.
(21:47):
He was just an over zealous entrepreneur with questionable moral bearings.
And for better or for worse, Max's boyfriend, Hey, Max
Tig wild night, Huh certainly memorable. It's not often you
(22:10):
can say that getting your stomach pumped is the least
weird part of your day. I'm sorry, I'm really sorry.
I know you were just looking out for me, albeit
in a completely deranged way. I just I wish you
would take me a little more seriously sometimes and trust
me when I tell you stuff. You're right. Well, it
(22:33):
looks like you're back to square one. What'll you do now?
What would I do? Now? Well? I did what any
hypocrite who just finished criticizing her friend's poor relationship choices
would do. I called Dolly strict nine. That's interesting. Why
is that interesting? Well, that's how Agatha Christie would kill
(22:56):
people off in her stories. Could be not to the
lick killer. How Ry Levinson, the original lip killer, Ali
had given me an idea. Maybe the music box wasn't
the key clue. Maybe it was the strict nine. If
the killer was using Strict nine as a literary reference,
he might be connected somehow to Levinson. It was a stretch,
(23:19):
but it was something to go on, which meant there
was someone I had to talk to. You're going to
go talk to Levinson? Are you nuts? Promise me you
won't go see him. He's stronger than you think. He
can get in your head. If he has something to
do with this, then you visiting him in prison is
(23:39):
already a part of his plan. Don't you get it?
He wants to be in your head too. Promise me
you won't put yourself in harm's way like that. Promise
you won't go to the prison. Okay, Ali, I promise?
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Torres Mystery Season two created an executive produced by Heather
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Shelley Shnoy as Win, Matt Gumley as Max, Luke Slattery
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and J. B. Blanc. Special guest Chuck Bryant as Brock Montague.
Additional voices Paul Gayet, Caleb Jen Stacy Moseley, Alba Ponza
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Hey, lethal listeners, take Torres here. Stay tuned for the
next episode of Lethal Lit. But first, here's a quick
word from our sponsor. H Hello, Tick, Yes, I hope
(00:22):
it's not too late. Jane Ferranti, producer of Something in
the Water. She's an amazing journalist and kind of a legend.
Oh hi, Jane, No, definitely not too late. Always have
time for you. I just got off the phone with
a medical examiner who will do anything for homie brownies,
even if they're not actually homemade. Half a minute to talk,
(00:43):
of course. The sudden death of the antique store owner,
Stephanie Reid had me convinced something was again not right
in the town of Hollow Falls, but the doctor insisted
it was a natural death and wouldn't give me the
time of day. Jane did, though, take your hunch was right.
They found strict nine, otherwise known as rat poison and
(01:04):
listen to this. After reviewing the details, they decided to
go back and do another autopsy on Rock Monitue. I
want to guess what they found. Strict nine. Looks like
you've got a serial killer on your hands. I shouldn't
have felt proud to hear her say that, but I did,
(01:25):
and in a sick, twisted way, I also felt excited
that there was a new mystery to solve. I guess
that's what life and hollow Falls will do to you.
I'm tig Torres and this is lethal lit two victims,
(02:09):
each with a music box nearby. I had the means
strict nine, and I had a lead suspect Harris. But
that's where things get complicated. Max was involved with him,
had genuine feelings for him, and I didn't handle that well.
I couldn't help it. I got that feeling, the feeling
(02:31):
I had when the lit killer murders were happening, that
it was only a matter of time until another body
dropped m hm. I needed to apologize to Max, but
also protect Max, which, if I was right, was more
important than his feelings. Wind came along to make sure
I didn't make things worse. Welcome to the Montague Hotel, Hi, Max, Max. Max,
(03:01):
let's have a lot in your hand when you're greeting guests.
It no, sir, it's a cup of water to melt
you with you which and how may I help you? Max?
I wanted to apologize for coming off so intense yesterday.
I'm sorry I was really shortsighted, and I let my
ambition to find out more about Harris override your feelings
(03:23):
for him. And but I still think we need to
talk about him. M I see, do you have a
reservation with us? Max? Tag and Ella did over hear
some pretty shady stuff at that antique store, and he
hasn't come forward to the police about being the last
person to see Stephanie alive, last besides Tag and Ella.
You mean, I'm sorry, ladies, I don't seem to have
(03:46):
a record of you in my system. I'm sure you're
not both here to discuss personal matters, as that would
get me in trouble with the OGRE currently observing security
cameras in the office directly behind me. Perhaps you made
a reservation under a different name, Max. As painful as
this is, we have to talk about it. It's really
important one moment, and I'll check on that for you.
You don't like Harris and you don't approve of my
(04:07):
being in a relationship with him. He's a suspect. Why
how he was badgering Brock moments before he died, Plus
the stuff we overheard at the antique store, the music
boxes and then Stephanie. There's no proof there's even been
a murder. Brock Montague had a heart attack and the
antique lady had a seizure. No, Max, they were both poisoned.
(04:27):
The coroner confirmed it half an hour ago. Now have
you seen anything suspicious? You know, I've been too busy
sipping on the latte that my beautiful, thoughtful boyfriend bought me,
and I guess I forgot to indulge in any wild
conspiracy theories this morning. You've got to listen to me.
Someone else could die. Max. Excuse me, I've listened. I'm
(04:48):
not convinced. Now let me do my job. Yes, I
have a delivery here for Max Wyneman. That's me have
a nice day. That's a personal package. Uh no, Walter,
it's it's a guest ledger I ordered to surprise you. Oh,
(05:13):
it's from Harris. Less than a full month into a
relationship and he can't keep himself from sending me surprises. Yeah,
well that's nice. Next, put that latte down, tigs thing,
(05:34):
just an accident, cleaning it up. Now we have to
get you to the hospital right now. What the hell
is wrong with you? There's rat poison in that latte? Well,
(06:02):
now I know why people don't get their stomachs pumped
for fun. How are you feeling, Max? Mm hmm? Like
Andy Cohen after taping a Housewives reunion, Badgered, exhausted, wondering
why the hell I'm alive? The doctor says, you're all right, wonderful. Well,
I hope you've got everything you wanted from this delightful
(06:22):
experienced Tig, Let's do it again sometime. You're not safe here. Max,
We're going to take you home. You're being crazy. Tig
Brock and Stephanie both died within minutes of getting a
music box. If Harris or whoever it is is coming
after you, then there's a good chance he'll try and
make another move tonight. Shouldn't we call the police then
(06:43):
and tell them what you can explain your little theory?
Or does that mean having to tell them the truth
about your antique store? B and E. We're going to
stay with you tonight. Max. I'm sorry. I refuse to
believe that Harris would try to hurt me. It just
doesn't make sense. He's our only serious lead right now,
Harris and Ali. Yeah, but why would Ali want to
(07:08):
kill Max Um? Maybe because we stopped him from fulfilling
his murder dreams of killing you. I would either of them.
What the hell did I do? I don't know. But
we're not leading your side. No one's getting anywhere near you.
Story of my life. I was acting a lot more
certain than I really was. The truth is, it didn't
(07:32):
all make sense to me. Max had a good point.
Why would Harris want him dead? And why put his
return address on the music box package? And what possible
connection could there be between brock Montacue, Stephanie and Max,
a millionaire playboy, an antique store owner, and the high
school junior currently leading the voting for most organized locker. Still,
(07:57):
there was what I overheard at the antique store. Kay,
was I paranoid at the time? I reasoned to myself
that it's safer to be paranoid when a friend's life
is in the balance. Well, isn't this great? A prisoner
(08:19):
in my own home forced to eat clam chowder straight
out of the can? Can't we at least order from
the star. We can't risk anyone touching your food, not
even Phil. So what's the plan exactly? Well, we stay
here with you until you're out of danger, which will
be until that's reassuring um the three of us can
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sleep in shifts. That way someone's always on the lookout
makes sense. I think the first thing to do is now,
who do you think that might be? Hey Lee? The
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you have a baseball bat? Do I look like i'd
have a baseball bat? What about a kitchen right in
the kitchen? Show Look, we're armed in here and extremely dangerous.
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We called nine one one, the police are on their way.
Come on, open up in there, l You almost gave
me a heart attack. Are you seriously doing an all
night vigil without me? Weren't you grounded after getting dropped
off by a squad car last night? I can't believe
you asked them to show for you home and literally
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use the words chauffeur. I can't believe you stayed at
the hospital. What'd you do walk home? Really anyway, I
got a twenty minute lecture on political optics and a
new bag for keeping it out of the papers. So
we're going to continue keeping it out of the papers? Right?
I really want that back? And how did you know
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we were here? Dig out of me to the group chat? Oh? Really,
big step? Well, then, welcome to the party. It feels
like a funeral in here. Don't you guys know how
to do a sleepover? Sure? So cute? All right? Never
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have I ever kissed a girl? Who? Who? Who? Alright? Alright, alright,
calm down. It was fifth freaking grade with this random girl, Kelsey.
I was hoping i'd absorb her abilities with men without
also absorbing her red hair, Jean, can you imagine me
as a ginger when I kissed Annie? Of course? And
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then there was this girl at camp. Oh my god,
Annie and I haven't thought about that psycho and forever. Okay,
she's not a psycho. I still follow her on the ground.
She's got a pug. She makes little hats for it.
Who's Annie Win's first official girlfriend? She goes to Freman Prep. Now, wait,
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didn't you bring her to the end of the year formal?
That's right, she was hitting on Katie Briggs, our head cheerleader,
something pretty fierce, and that was one of your healthier relationships. Really,
who else were you in? Okay? Enough attention on when
we're still playing a game, are we not? Okay? Let's see.
Never have I ever developed real feelings for an actual psycho,
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like a potential serial killer? For example, Harris is not
a psycho? Who said I was talking about you? I
bet psycho killers make very passionate lovers. You know what?
Can we not talk about psycho killers for like one
glorious evening? Please? I'm serious? You're right, my bad? Look,
none of you know Harris? Okay, It's not like I'm
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so unbelievably desperate for affection that I look past murder.
That's not what I said. Sure feels like it, believe me, Max.
Everyone here knows. I'm in no position to judge you.
But even assuming he's innocent, Harris still gives off shady vibes.
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Can I ask, what do you see in him? I
really want to know? Yeah, I'm kind of curious too. Well.
I'm he's gorge for one, he knows what he wants
and he's not afraid to go for it. He's not
like other people in this town, just letting themselves be
dragged whichever way life happens to take them. He's got plans.
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He makes me feel like I can be whatever I
want to be. And unlike most of the superficial idiots
on Grinder, he actually thinks these scars on my face
or kind of hot? How? Who am I kidding? I
want attention so badly, I'll look past anything. Now it
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turns out he's a murdering psychopath. Of course he is.
Isn't that just exactly who I'd fall for. I can't
believe I was so stupid. I think that what we
had was real. Hey, don't say that, you're not stupid.
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And maybe it is real. There's no denying the music
box and the inks. And I felt so special when
he brought me that lattape, but then it was a
death latte. I think both things can be true. A
person can have real feelings for you, and they can
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also want to hurt you. Who are we talking about,
Tig Maybe it's just a side of himself he can't control.
Maybe it's how he was raised. Everyone has control over
the choices. They make you deserve better. Max. I'm just
saying it happens, don't hate on yourself. Max. Did you
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know I never cried when Tony was killed? Isn't that crazy?
It wasn't until after I was at the mall trying
out new eyeliner, treating myself. It just started falling and
I couldn't stop for three day. Oh Ella, honey, come here,
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take okay, I ms Ali. I still think about him
a lot. We all do, Tig, even though it turns
out we didn't know him like we thought we did,
only was a friend for a long time. Some of
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it had to be real. I don't know. I have
to tell you all something. What is it, Tig? I.
I'm really glad you're all my friends here, you guys
group hug. I'll look at us. Oh Ella, your nails,
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my dad? You know. I'm glad my dad moved me
to Hollow Falls, even though Denise, my spiritual advisor, says
the whole town is haunted. You don't believe in ghosts, now,
do you know? But as Denise told you, you can
be haunted by grief. You can't deny that that's true.
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Wouldn't it be nice if there was something we could
do about that, like some kind of exorcism or something,
so we could all just get on with our lives.
I can't wait to get the hell out of this place.
It just eats people alive and make some Michelin star
meal out of their dreams. If that all right, I'm
walking off that stage of graduation and right out of town.
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You watch, We know you will, Max. Yeah, if anyone can,
it's you? God? What time is it? Almost two? You're tired?
You kidding? The night is still young, queen? When I
will tell you what I have? Mhmm. Looks like they're
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both out. Ella sleeps like she's posing for a selfie.
I uh, you can rest your eyes if you want.
I can keep watching. No, no, I mean unless you'd
rather be alone. If you're uncomfortable spending the night together
with me, well, I don't know. Would Annie be jealous?
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Annie is with a guy now right. Also, she wasn't
the jealous type, far from it, truth be told. She
wasn't that into me. Good kiss her though? Oh yeah?
Like how well, it's hard to put into words. You're
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not waiting for me to lean in and kiss you,
are you? No, you're not waiting for me to lean
in and kiss you? Are you, of course not. Okay,
then we're on the same page. Then yeah, I mean
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this would be a pretty romantic time for a kiss, though,
wouldn't It seems like it? What was that? Oh crap, Max?
Wake up? Someone's at the door. What what's happening? Is
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it your parents? No, they're a wait till the end
of the week. Grab the skillet, Ella, There are scissors
on the counter. When they get your knife, bax, Oh,
Maxie Harris, don't come any closer. I am fully prepared
to use these scissors. What are you gonna do? Give
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me bangs? What's going on in here? Max? Wait? Did
I walk in and a sleepover? It's some cozy in here.
We're not going to let you hurt Max. Hurt Max?
How did you get in? Did you steal a key
to Max's house and make it? What are you talking about?
You want drugs? Look, he gave me the key. Okay,
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Oh my god, I didn't know what What were you thinking?
I gave him a copy while my parents are away.
It seemed like a good idea at the time. Okay, seriously,
what's going on here? They know about us. I told
them you can't say anything about this. My father would
kill me, dude, Please, he disn't just come about disinherit me.
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What do you want? Max got your little music box? Oh?
I see, and you went in right about time? We
want in to? What to killing him? Why do you
want Max dead? Want him dead? What are you talking about?
It was a present, the first of its kind. And
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I have even more ideas of products for the Hollow
Falls Murder Lover's Gifts Murder Lovers. I should be selling
a couple of packages what I'm still working on the title.
I wanted to be in the Montague, just off the lobby.
I got key chains, mugs, I visited Hollow Falls and
lived to tell about it, T shirts. I've got the
floor plan all mapped out. But then Brock was, well,
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you know, so the projects on pass for a while.
That Walter is next to impossible to work with, right evil?
See I told you guys, so that's why you were
at the antique store. Yeah. Stephanie's in touch with the
vendor overseas who was like so cheap by I don't
even want to know how much they pay their workers.
She gets sold a lot of her work done that way.
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Some of her antiques aren't so antique. But sh it's
a secret, Harris. Didn't you hear Stephanie's dead? Dude? What
right after you were in her store last night? Strict
nine poisoning? Oh god, no, no, no, no, no, this
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this is terrible. How am I going to find another vendor? Vendor?
I guess I could do license plate frames, but no,
those those music boxes were going to launch my mail
over business. It's okay, it's okay. Is this guy serious
right now? I'm sorry, You're right. I just I meant
to say, it's very sad. I guess wait, how did
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you know I was in her store last night? Um?
We had a wait a minute, what are you doing
sneaking in here at this time of night? Tig? Really
you're a detective. I think you can figure this one out.
Look like I was wrong about Harris being the killer.
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He was just an over zealous entrepreneur with questionable moral bearings.
And for better or for worse, Max's boyfriend, Hey, Max
Tig wild night, Huh certainly memorable. It's not often you
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can say that getting your stomach pumped is the least
weird part of your day. I'm sorry, I'm really sorry.
I know you were just looking out for me, albeit
in a completely deranged way. I just I wish you
would take me a little more seriously sometimes and trust
me when I tell you stuff. You're right. Well, it
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looks like you're back to square one. What'll you do now?
What would I do? Now? Well? I did what any
hypocrite who just finished criticizing her friend's poor relationship choices
would do. I called Dolly strict nine. That's interesting. Why
is that interesting? Well, that's how Agatha Christie would kill
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people off in her stories. Could be not to the
lick killer. How Ry Levinson, the original lip killer, Ali
had given me an idea. Maybe the music box wasn't
the key clue. Maybe it was the strict nine. If
the killer was using Strict nine as a literary reference,
he might be connected somehow to Levinson. It was a stretch,
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but it was something to go on, which meant there
was someone I had to talk to. You're going to
go talk to Levinson? Are you nuts? Promise me you
won't go see him. He's stronger than you think. He
can get in your head. If he has something to
do with this, then you visiting him in prison is
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already a part of his plan. Don't you get it?
He wants to be in your head too. Promise me
you won't put yourself in harm's way like that. Promise
you won't go to the prison. Okay, Ali, I promise?
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Critzia Bajos, with performances by Rebecca Solair as tig Torus,
Shelley Shnoy as Win, Matt Gumley as Max, Luke Slattery
as Ali, rachel Orem Land as Ella, with Critzia Bajos
and J. B. Blanc. Special guest Chuck Bryant as Brock Montague.
Additional voices Paul Gayet, Caleb Jen Stacy Moseley, Alba Ponza
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sound design by Sarah Gibilaska. Music by Kareem Dueti. Produced
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