August 14, 2024 • 32 mins
Shannen wanted her podcast to be a space where people could find love, laughter, and healing.
Who better to fulfill Shannen's vision than her mom, Mama Rosa.
In this episode, she is joined by one of Shannen's closest friends Anne Marie Kortright.
Together, they offer the same appreciation and affection Shannen shared with you all these months.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is let's be clear with Shannon Dhorney.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hello, let's be clear friends. I want to thank you
all for all the support, outpoint of love and support
that you've given Shannon over the years and now for
her family. We appreciate it so very much and appreciate
all of you for all the years that you've followed
her and loved her. I'm sure that many of you
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recognize me from a couple of previous podcasts that Shannon
had talked me into doing, and.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
All the Instagram posts over the years, and all the
funny thing.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And this this podcast meant so much to Shannon because
it allowed her to tell her story and tell her
truth and over the years there's been so many stories
and untruths and things mixed up that it was just fun.
She says, I want to do this and I have
so many people that have followed me over the years
(01:04):
and have supported me, and I just want to give
them the opportunity to hear what my life really is.
And that's was part of the reason for this podcast.
And it meant so much to me because I got
to watch her do this when it was so special
(01:28):
for her and needed it helped her so much and
everything that she was going through, and to hear back
from all of you and the questions that you presented
to her in the podcast when she was answering questions
that was important. I just want to say thank you
to everybody, and I am now going to be doing
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my best to try to continue this for her because
that's what we discussed that she wanted me to do.
And of course I'm not her. I could never be her.
I'm not I'm not as well spoken as she was,
but I'm here for all of you, and I hope
you're all here for me. And today I asked somebody
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very special to do this with me my first time out,
because she means so much to me, and she means
so much to Shannon. They're like sisters, and she this,
this beautiful person is part of our family. And I'm
sure you will all recognize her at some point because
she was also on one of the podcasts with Shannon,
(02:34):
and so I'd like to introduce you now to someone
very special. Also. Her family is very special as well.
This is Anne Marie.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Thank you mama. She was said the Ricker Strata who
named you mama Rossa.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
That's awesome. I forgot that I was going to tell
everybody this was who named me Mama Rosa. She started
the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It becomes such a big thing over the years that
everybody called you Mama Rosa. And you know, I kind
of got over at one point, but I was like,
excuse me. I started that, should we tell this story
how we started that? Yeah, it was kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, tell so.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Many many many years ago. Actually almost twenty years ago.
I realized not a week after Shannon had passed that
we would have had our twentieth anniversary of our friendship.
And it was really one of a kind. She was
one of a kind. And long story short, I came
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to visit Shannon in Malibu. I was shooting, and I
remember Mama Rousa and Channon came to pick me up
from the set and I came to stay with her.
I remember vividly, and I loved to organize very much,
and I'm sure you guys have seen me throughout the
years try to like not just organize, but make Shannon
do funny things like drink green juices and work out
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when she didn't want to on all that kind of
fun stuff. So I decided I was going to reorganize
Shannon's whole closet. In the process, we started trying things
on that we're in her closs a from like shows
and past like events and red carpets, and next thing
you know, I'm like fully wearing.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
The world.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
And I was so embarrassed because there comes Rosa.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
She's turning right and I'm like, oh, hi, Mama Rosa,
fully butt naked. And that is how Memorosa's.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Work, literally, because I was like, what else do I do?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
But hi, Mama Rosa, and I'm sorry and I'm not
really sorry, and that's how we kind of fell in
love and ever since then, you know, she's like a
second mom to me. When I moved here to La,
she used to take care of my little baby who's
now sixteen. So we truly have grown together as a family.
Is so much more than friends. So, like she said,
(04:43):
I'm so so grateful. We're both so grateful for all
of the beautiful messages, all of the beautiful little videos
that the fans make on Instagram. Like I have yet
to really cry. We both have really held it together
because we being together taking care of each other, and well.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I tell people when somebody sees me out and you know,
they're being very kind and they want to come up
and hug me, and I'm like, the first thing I
do is I look at them and I'm like, you
can hug me, but you cannot cry. Just don't cry
because if you cry, I'll start crying and I can't stop,
I know.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
And she I almost cried the other day.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
She was over at my house and we made it
almost an hour and a half and when she was
walking out, I hugged her and she goes, You're not crying.
I was like nope, and like I'm literally swallowing her
back up. So I think because the love and the
relationship that we have been able to cultivate over the
last twenty years, we just kind of been there for
each other. And you know, this is what I said.
I remember the day after I said to my husband
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and I'm like, I have one job right now. I
know what Shannon would have wanted me to do, and
people would have thought many things, but the one thing
that I knew was my job till the day I
die is to make sure that I call my Marosa
every morning and just find out what she's doing, and
she does, are you fitting the docks? I'm very annoying.
I'm like, what are you doing? What do you want
to talk about? And she's like, She's like, didn't you
(06:06):
just wake up? Did you have coffee already? She's like,
why are you so lively? And I'm like, what's up?
So I just wanted to make sure that she never
misses what she had with Channon, where you know, they
were so very close, one of the most beautiful momy
daughter relationships I've ever witnessed. So I will never be
able to replace her, but I will make sure that
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she never feels alone as long as I can help it.
No wonder where I am in the world, I'm going
to figure it out to make sure I called her
in the morning and just say good morning.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So she called me every morning from Puerto Rico recently,
I did, I did so.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Anyways, thank you guys. I think that we have a
bunch of questions that were sent. What do you think
she would want you to do to keep her legacy alive?
I think that's a good one for you. Let's throw
it right in there.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, I think we've got a good start on it
right now with all the people that are listening to
the podcast, and I hope that we can keep the
podcast going, and that depends on everybody and me as well,
and I promise to do better as I get along
with this. I'm still you're doing amazing.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I'm still alone, You're doing great, hy with it? But
and it's different. I'm sitting here with am Marie, and
I chose A Marie because I knew I would have
a different comfort zone. But when I did it before,
I was sitting across from Shannon, So it's kind of
right now. It's a little overwhelming for me in that respect.
But as I get along down the road, it'll get better,
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I know, get better.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I hope it can be just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
And her legacy will be the love that she gave
to everybody that she knew, and the love that she
gave to people that she didn't know. I went to
a lot of conventions with her, and I watched her
hug these people and tears come into her eyes for
the people and the stories that they were telling her.
And she felt it very important that she takes the
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time with people and people who needed a hug. And
I think that's her legacy that people actually and even
more so now they're realizing what a wonderful, kind and
warm human being she was.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, and those who really knew her and those who
were like in her inner circle always knew that she
truly was the warmant, the kindest, you know friend there was.
I think a very important thing for me that I
have been able to get out of all of the
messages is that I knew how important it was. And
(08:39):
you guys have heard on the podcast, on the episode
that she and I did together. You know, the moment
that she shaved her head and she went public with
her cancer was a big, big, big moment for her,
for you, for me, for all of those around her.
But I don't think I ever realized the mass manitude
(09:00):
of the the way was received by people that were
going through what she was going through. I people loved her,
admired her, and to see the strength to go out
there in a world where it's so superficial, right this world,
the social media and all the things, where everyone is
just basically like putting this persona out there, and she
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just went out there raw. I remember, like we were
shaving the head. It was you and me, and I
was like, I had no idea what I was doing
I kept looking at her.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I called you because she she called me. She I
was there with her, and she's like, okay, mom, I
want you to cut my hair. I'm like what because
at the time she she was losing some hair, but
she still had a full head of hair. And she said, no,
come with me, and she took me into the bathroom
and she put her hair in a ponytail and she said,
cut this ponytail off now. And I did cut the ponytail,
(09:52):
and then we're looking at each other like what are
we going to.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Do now with the rest?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
So she and she says, I think we just need
to go ahead and do it all now. Just I'm like,
are you sure. I'm like really she said yeah. I'm like, well,
we don't have a shaver. She said, let's call that Marie.
So we didn't the red Rocket Marie.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I mean, it's usually kind of how our stories end.
It's always like you guys start something and you're like, oh, crap,
we need somebody to finish it up. So anyways, next
thing I know, I'm on my way, I pull up
the routes, I grab a couple of different ones, and
then you know, we just kind of figure it out,
and it was not easy. I mean, for those of
you who are going through this, you will know that
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it is not as easy as it looks. You actually
need some training. So I got some training real quickly.
But you know what, in all seriousness, it was a
big moment. I didn't realize it till later on, Like
how brave she was, Like how truly brave she was
to just bear it all and share it with you guys,
and you know the outpouring of love after that post.
(10:56):
I remember, we talked about it and we kept saying, impressed,
do we say it? Do we not do it? Do
we do it in black and white? I mean, we
went back and forth, and then finally when we saw
the response, we were like, this is the right thing
because there's so many people out there going through this alone. Right,
they don't have the support that you have in a
mom like Rosa or a friend like me or Chris
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or all the people around her that truly we're here
to support her no matter what. And she truly gave
them the courage to just like go for it and
go out there and talk about it and also create
all the awareness she truly on her own created so
much breast cancer awareness. She did so much work on
her own and I hear that every day every time
(11:40):
I look through messages, they're like, because of her, I
went and got tested, and I did this, and I
found that at this stage or that stage. So we
will forever be so grateful that she did that, and
I feel honored that she allowed me to be part
of that in helping some of these people get through it.
You know, together with us, it was like one big
(12:00):
big we were just like it.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Was turned into a head shaving party and so much
more right because then people who are willing to talk
about not just the loss of the hair, but like
having a misectomy, having.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
To go through chemo, the radiation, Do I do it?
Do I not do it? What am I going to
feel like? And she truly was so raw and share it,
and I think that, you know, it's a very hard
thing to do. And she truly gave a platform for
women and for men and for many that didn't exist before.
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She has the most amazing fans.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
She really does, she really not.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I still remember our first trip to New York. I
remember I never really experienced the paparazzi that yeah, And
I remember we were just like I never cared. I
was just like I would put on whatever. And we
were walking down Soha and all of a sudden, she goes,
don't look, and of course you're going I look.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I'm like hey, and next.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Thing, you know, we have like fifteen people. This is
like back in two thousand and one. This is a
long time ago. And I remember we were just shopping
and I'm like, I don't understand. I'm like, we're just shopping.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
She goes.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I know, she goes, but you gotta look pretty while
we're shopping, you know. And it was so funny because
it was like I never really care, and it was
just kind of like part of like our relationship. I
think that's why we were so close, because like, I
just never really care. I would try to walk on
the other side of the street and she'd be like,
where are you going.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I'm like, I'll see you over here.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
You let them follow you. And you know, my husband's
a very very private, quiet person. As most of you think,
I'm not even married, but I've been married twenty three
years and i have a sixteen year old and you know,
Shannon and my husband were very, very very close.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
She adored Scott, and she in him and trusted his
knowledge of things.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, he knows a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
He knows a lot of a lot, a lot a lot.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
So yeah, I know, it's you know, we really do
have I have spent People keep asking me, how are
you doing, and I'm like, you know how I'm doing.
I'm just going down memory lane, truly enjoying all of
the beautiful, beautiful memories that I created with her. And
let me tell you, I forgot how many things we did.
We lived, we lived hard, and lived like we truly
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did live like. We had some fun trips. We had
some that were like, eh, yeah, whatever, you know, Okay,
I mean, I remember we went to Miami on a
girl's trip. I wanted a girl strip. So she's like,
I'm coming and I think there's a bunch of pictures
of I was like sitting on the plane with ar Mimosas.
And then it was the beginning of snapchat, do you remember,
And yeah, my god, that whole night we just sat
in the hotel room doing Snapchat videos. So I was
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like pretending to cry. Next thing, you know, we're taking
walks on the beach, and you know, I feel one
of the things I've learned, you know, over the past
month or so, is that I want to really enjoy
the moment. I really want to like just connect, like
when Rosa and I are together now and we speak
every day and I see her multiple times a week,
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and we got her favorite lunch plates and we do
our stuff, like I just want to be present. And
that's the one thing I have to say. Be present
with your family, with your friends, with the ones you care,
with the ones you love. Don't be looking at your phone.
Just like enjoy it, because that was the That's one
of the gifts that Shannon and I had in our relationship.
There was none of this when she and I met.
There was none of it. It was just her and
(15:34):
I making the fun. We started the phone. We didn't
have a phone taping recording what was happening. We lived
the moment. And I say that to my daughter all
the time. That's one of the most precious things that
I like remember in our relationship.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
You know, that's well in Shannon and I had like
such a phenomenal mother daughter relationship, and I always said
to her, like you are my heart, and she is
she's my heart, and I just we just it's so
much together, and I would I have my own place,
and I would go to I would get ready to
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go to my own place, and she'd said, where are
you going. I remember, well, I'll be back on Monday.
Or I said no, no, no, why don't you just
spend the night and then in the morning we'll do
so and so, no shopping, or we'll do this. And
I'm like, well, but I really need to get back
and check on things at my place. And she said
it's okay, you can do that in the morning. And
(16:31):
when the morning came, so finally I'm like, I do
have her place, but my place has been with her
for a long time now. It was like, you gotta
go home, mom. You can't go back to your place.
This is home.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Your relationship was truly special, you know, like I it's
it's one of a kind and they'll be they'll never
be one like it. And you're very blessed in a way,
like you spend more time with your daughter the most
mother spends in a lifetime.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Well, and everybody, what's so dear to me? People that
I don't even know that maybe she's seen out somewhere
at the convention or whatever, and I know with all
our friends. She really goes into it. But it's always
they say, Shannon loves you so much. She told us
all about you and she loves you so much. And
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then all my friends, I mean even now, it's like,
you know, Shannon told us we have to take care
of you and to watch out for you, and.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
She loved you so much, and that was the only
thing she cared about. She cared that you had company
that you were taking care of. And guess what, she
has the closest people to her. That's what we're doing.
We are Her orders are our commands, and we're on
it and we will be here until you get sick
of us.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Every time I talk about maybe, well maybe I'll like
move to Italy or maybe I'll go somewhere, and I
mentioned moving to Italy and our friend Chris is like, well, yes,
we can do that.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
We're going together. It's a whole, full pack, a.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Whole it's a whole packagees. We have our little group
here and we just stick together. And that's all because
of Shannon. Shannon included me. She always in always with
her friends from the beginning, even when she was young.
I mean I remember when she was even when she
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was like eighteen. There would be a group of them
that they would go to Jerry's Deli on the sun
special night it was midnight bowling and Tom and I
would be in bed very you know, sleep. It would
be two one or two in the morning. And it
wouldn't be Shannon calling always. It would be at the
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time Deborah who we lost Deborah to cancer and that
was a close friend as well, but it would be Deborah,
could be well, anybody, any of the friends. They say, hey, Mom,
we're bowling. Where are you? And Dad, I'm like, we're
in bed, get up and come on, let's go. We
would get up and we would get dressed and we
would go. And because of that, they always knew that
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we were their ride or die.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
If even now, if anybody's like, just call me, I'm there,
and that's like a Marie does the same thing because
now her daughters, our beautiful lives sixteen years old, and
so she's experiencing it with living her friends.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Exactly and then honestly, there's nothing more beautiful, you know,
That's the whole point. I always say, what's the point
of having kids if you don't want to be with them?
Twenty for seven exactly, and.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
When they include you with their friends, but.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
That means you raise them. Right, Let's just talk about it,
because if they want to be with you and they
want to share all of their memories with you, as
you know, I just had a house full of guests, yes,
and you know that's special. That means you did something right,
you know. So and Shannon, you know, she really did
have a beautiful group of friends. You know, she really
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truly did. And they were her rider died. It didn't
matter what time of the day it was. We all
showed up for her because she did that for us.
I remember, not that long ago, I haven't been feeling well.
I had like call it lung covid. We don't know
what it was, but whatever, let's not get into that.
And I remember I wasn't feeling one hundred percent for
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a while. And it's not like me, like I like
to work out, I'm super healthy. I take care of myself.
And you know, I remember she called me one day
and she's like, where're you been? And I was like
I'm here and she's like, no, no, no, where've you been?
And then I was like, why are you being mean
to me? And she's like, well, you don't called me,
you haven't bothered me, you haven't showed up at my house,
you haven't made me work out. She has something's wrong
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with you. And I was like, well, I don't feel
so good. She's like, what do you mean you don't
feel good? Yeah, and then I realized in that moment.
She was like why didn't you tell me you don't
feel good? She's like, did you talk to Pierre And
I'm like, yes, I talked to Pierra and that's her doctor.
And she's like what do you say? And I'm like, well,
no one really knows what's up. And she's like, well,
let's figure it out. She goes, I have this doctor. Doctor.
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She's like, I'm on my way, mom, we gotta go
take care of memory. And I'm like no. I was like,
you just had chemo when you're throwing up and you're sick,
and she goes and she literally part of my world.
She's like, shut the f up. She goes, just because
I'm sick, it doesn't mean you're not allowed to be
sick with me, and I remember it hit me and
it made me cry because I used to shelter her
from the things that were going on with me, and
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she's like, we're not friends if you can't tell me
when you don't feel good. She goes, I don't care
if it's a headache. I don't care if it's a toe.
She goes, I'm your friend. This is a both goes
both directions. And that's the kind of person that she was.
It didn't matter. She's just finishing the toilet. She would
be like one second and she's like, wait, back to you.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
What hurts?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
She goes, let me put that on Google. She would
diagnose me. So that's truly the kind of friend. And honestly,
like talking right now, it's like I miss her, Like
I miss her so much. God, yeah, Like it's just
not real, you know, it's I keep going and I
keep getting myself. I have reorganized my freaking house so
(22:02):
many times. On my drawers, I'm pulling everything in her house.
I made Claudia, who's our housekeeper, I made Claudia go
with me to the into the pantry. I'm like, everything
in here has got to be taken out. And when
you started laughing, because the last time that happened is
when Shannon did it. So the apple doesn't fall far
(22:24):
from thee in that respect. But I think that's what
you and I do. We just like we kind of
keep going instead of sitting, and like, I know at
some point we have to sit and feel the feelings.
But for now, I'm just keeping busy, Like I just
I keep picking up the phone, and I keep wanting
to tell her something funny that happened that only she
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would think it's funny. And that's the thing, like, you know,
you have all different I have. I'm very blessed, I
have great friends, I have a beautiful family, my family,
my mom, my dad. But there's just shit. I would
tell her that just only she would get yeah, And
like I keep thinking to myself, is she punking me?
She kind of come out like I swear it on
my way here, and I'm like, maybe this is all Joe.
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Maybe she'll come out and be like, ah, I got
you all. You know. So it's like it really makes
me sad, and like I have gone through the process
of I get sad and I cry and I get angry.
I haven't had a full cry yet. I don't know when.
I'm sure it'll come at some point when I truly
realize it. And as you guys, know eventually in some
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near future we're going to do a celebration. Yes, right,
I know that that's been asked a lot. We're working
on it, Roses. This is on Ross's terms. When she's ready,
we'll let you guys know. Just some lot involved right
now that we have to take care first. It's funny
(23:57):
talking about her thinking that she's going to be here.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
It's like just a week ago. I was in my car,
which I call the Beast, and it's new. It was
Shannon wanted to be sure that I had a car
that was new and that was really big and heavy
so that I was really safe. I loved my car
(24:23):
that I had, and one day I came in it
had disappeared. She said there was something wrong, and I
had triple A take it to the shop, but used
mine while you're waiting for years, and then one day
that the car came so it long story short. I
had to go to Beverly Hills to drop something off,
and I had a friend with me and we were
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coming back and I left Beverly Hills. I got in
front of the Mormon Temple and Santa Monica Boulevard and
the car started wanting to do things on its own. Well,
I was resistant and I both hands on the steering wheel.
I'm like, no, no, no, I refuse to get on the
but I drove all the way from Beverly Hills in
major daytime traffic to Malibu part the car, and I'm like, okay,
(25:09):
I'll use Shannon's car from now on. So Anne Marie
heard my troubled story and she says, we got to
fix that. We got to fix that. And she actually
came over and we sat in the car together, and
she had a friend who had a similar experience with
a car like mine, so she kind of knew where
to start. But so then when she got it all fixed,
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we went to lunch and she said, I'm just going
to follow you and then I'll go on to my
house afterwards, but we will know that your car is okay.
I was so excited by the time I got back
and I felt so good. A Marie and I had lunch,
the car was fixed, everything up. I opened the door,
I went running in the house and I'm like, Shannon,
guess what. A Marie fixed my car? And then I
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was like and then the tears came. Yeah, I'm like
she's not here.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Now you know it did.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
She did leave me with this car that this girl
has a mine of its own.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
It really was in a mind of its own.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
It just had the assist at lane driving that Rosa
was not used to because I know it was on there.
So basically, anytime she would get off a little bit
of the lane, it would push her back into the lane,
which is kind of like an amazing feature if you
know about it. But when you have these beasts that
(26:29):
you call her, you know, pushing you to one side,
it's a little scary. So we fixed it. Her business
fully operational. She will take on the roads and the canyons,
and she calls me and I make sure she texts
me every time she gets off the canyon. I'm like,
are you home? Are you inside? Did we lock the doors?
I mean, I've become I've become Chandon's. She says, where
are you? I don't know where I was because she
(26:51):
had a tracker on me. Oh I'm gonna we're doing that,
but we're where are you?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Because I can hear her on the road and it
was late in Calabasas.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
What are you doing there?
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I'm like, you're like twenty five minutes away from the house.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I was like, get over the canyon already.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I'm like, I'm coming over out of the canyon. I'm good,
and I'm all good. She's what minute you get in
you let me know? Yeah, I need to know.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I need to know where the important people in my
life are at all times before I close my eyes.
You know, it's just how it is. It's the Puerto
Rican in me. It's that you know, protector. So you know,
I do have those moments for sure that I just
keep wanting to dial the phone. And I have a
couple of She never used to lead boys notes, but
I have a couple of voice messages and I listened
(27:37):
to me. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
She would just call and hang up. Yeah, just like
it's like, oh, Shannon called, What did she want? When
you call her?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I hear her the way she used to call Scott. Yeah, time,
you know what she used to call him. I'm not
going to say it, but I hear it all the time.
She's like, hey, what's up? And I'm like, oh my god,
I'm not going to hear that again. Yeah, but you
know what, we truly are last. We have amazing memories.
She fought the fight like no one I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
She and she didn't show it.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
She really did it.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
She didn't show it. She did not. We would go out,
we would go to dinner or whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
And grocery store.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
She loves you too, love the grocery store. There's more
paparazzi pictures of vintage browsers and any other stores.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
The grocery store. But whenever I would go by myself
or like I was, I have a little job that
I do and when I would leave work, and I
would always text her and call her and say, hey,
I'm leaving work. Didn't need anything and want me to
pick up something for dinner or I can order something
for dinner, and uh, she said, We'll go to the
grocery store and pick up maybe five items. I'm that
(28:39):
person when I go to the grocery store. It's very
relaxing to me. And some grocery stores have great music.
You could probably do a date night there at midnight,
and they have everything you'd need. But it would be
like the phone, I'm in the grocery store. Where are you?
What are you? I'm like, I'm in the grocery store.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
She just send me for five or five things.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I go up and down in every aisle. Yeah, I know,
I just do it.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
It's they're a predict.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
Yeah. I love the grocery store. It's the same way
that you like to go out eat. I do nice
drive just to like drive out, I have to get
out and just change the scenery for a little exactly.
And by the way, for everyone asking, Bowie's doing just great, yes,
always thriving. I just took her on a little walk
(29:25):
and she got so excited. She was like ready to
play for the it's so pretty.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
She gave me a full smile, and.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
She's kind of smiled at her times when she We
kind of like to set the times because I also
have a little dog, Indy, and Bowie doesn't like other dogs,
so we have to keep them, keep them statement. The
boy knows what time is her bedtime, and when it's bedtime,
she she lets me know. She's standing there waiting at
(29:55):
the door. I don't take her up and downstairs anymore
because she has a little arthritis in her back in
but so we have to come outside and all the
way around and then downstairs, and she goes in and
she's down for the night, and she will not get
out of her bed until I go in and get
her up in the morning.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
She's Grandma got her. Yeah. She truly was Shannon's best friend.
She was there with her through every single step, and
she loved her and cared for her. And she's doing.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Really, really good. We were so worried about her, I know,
so we really were. And Shannon has said to me,
she said, because Shannon got to where we used to
walk her out together and then sometimes we'd walk out
the front door and Shannon would sit on the bench
and she said, I'm just going to sit here for
a Whileie, you and boy go on and I'll wait
right here for you.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
And she was getting boy used to just being with me. Yeah,
she would say, go to grand go with Grammy. Now
you're going to go with Grammy. And so we were
transitioning Bowie.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
And she's doing good.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
She's done very well. Everybody that's seen her has been
amazed at how well she's doing.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
She's a good one. She's a good soul, very good girl.
So anyways, I don't know, I think what.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I think we've probably covered more than enough. And I'm
sorry for me in the beginning because I was.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
Really it was really like a little trepidacious for me
today because it's you know, it's one thing having sat
down with Shannon to do it and and then to
know that, Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I'm I want to do this. I want to keep
this going for her. So the nerves were really in
because I really want to keep up with you guys,
and for you guys to keep up with us and
know what's going on and continue to love and bring
some of our.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Friends so she loved and some of the people that
she already had, bring them back and test we're going
about her and you know, just reminisce and just like
keep her life going and keep all the work and
all the awareness that she put out there. Continue to
do that.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
And I'm going to force a Marie to come back
in some wild I think it'll be very good and
very healing for you. Ultimately, that's the reason we're all here.
We're all here for Mamrosa. We're all here to make
sure that you're good, that you have.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Company, that you have all the love Shannel used to
give you, and that you never ever feel like ever
you know so.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
And we want you to understand that we all want to.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Let's be clear, So stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Bye
This is let's be clear with Shannon Dhorney.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hello, let's be clear friends. I want to thank you
all for all the support, outpoint of love and support
that you've given Shannon over the years and now for
her family. We appreciate it so very much and appreciate
all of you for all the years that you've followed
her and loved her. I'm sure that many of you
(00:30):
recognize me from a couple of previous podcasts that Shannon
had talked me into doing, and.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
All the Instagram posts over the years, and all the
funny thing.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And this this podcast meant so much to Shannon because
it allowed her to tell her story and tell her
truth and over the years there's been so many stories
and untruths and things mixed up that it was just fun.
She says, I want to do this and I have
so many people that have followed me over the years
(01:04):
and have supported me, and I just want to give
them the opportunity to hear what my life really is.
And that's was part of the reason for this podcast.
And it meant so much to me because I got
to watch her do this when it was so special
(01:28):
for her and needed it helped her so much and
everything that she was going through, and to hear back
from all of you and the questions that you presented
to her in the podcast when she was answering questions
that was important. I just want to say thank you
to everybody, and I am now going to be doing
(01:52):
my best to try to continue this for her because
that's what we discussed that she wanted me to do.
And of course I'm not her. I could never be her.
I'm not I'm not as well spoken as she was,
but I'm here for all of you, and I hope
you're all here for me. And today I asked somebody
(02:12):
very special to do this with me my first time out,
because she means so much to me, and she means
so much to Shannon. They're like sisters, and she this,
this beautiful person is part of our family. And I'm
sure you will all recognize her at some point because
she was also on one of the podcasts with Shannon,
(02:34):
and so I'd like to introduce you now to someone
very special. Also. Her family is very special as well.
This is Anne Marie.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Thank you mama. She was said the Ricker Strata who
named you mama Rossa.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
That's awesome. I forgot that I was going to tell
everybody this was who named me Mama Rosa. She started
the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It becomes such a big thing over the years that
everybody called you Mama Rosa. And you know, I kind
of got over at one point, but I was like,
excuse me. I started that, should we tell this story
how we started that? Yeah, it was kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, tell so.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Many many many years ago. Actually almost twenty years ago.
I realized not a week after Shannon had passed that
we would have had our twentieth anniversary of our friendship.
And it was really one of a kind. She was
one of a kind. And long story short, I came
(03:28):
to visit Shannon in Malibu. I was shooting, and I
remember Mama Rousa and Channon came to pick me up
from the set and I came to stay with her.
I remember vividly, and I loved to organize very much,
and I'm sure you guys have seen me throughout the
years try to like not just organize, but make Shannon
do funny things like drink green juices and work out
(03:50):
when she didn't want to on all that kind of
fun stuff. So I decided I was going to reorganize
Shannon's whole closet. In the process, we started trying things
on that we're in her closs a from like shows
and past like events and red carpets, and next thing
you know, I'm like fully wearing.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
The world.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
And I was so embarrassed because there comes Rosa.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
She's turning right and I'm like, oh, hi, Mama Rosa,
fully butt naked. And that is how Memorosa's.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Work, literally, because I was like, what else do I do?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
But hi, Mama Rosa, and I'm sorry and I'm not
really sorry, and that's how we kind of fell in
love and ever since then, you know, she's like a
second mom to me. When I moved here to La,
she used to take care of my little baby who's
now sixteen. So we truly have grown together as a family.
Is so much more than friends. So, like she said,
(04:43):
I'm so so grateful. We're both so grateful for all
of the beautiful messages, all of the beautiful little videos
that the fans make on Instagram. Like I have yet
to really cry. We both have really held it together
because we being together taking care of each other, and well.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I tell people when somebody sees me out and you know,
they're being very kind and they want to come up
and hug me, and I'm like, the first thing I
do is I look at them and I'm like, you
can hug me, but you cannot cry. Just don't cry
because if you cry, I'll start crying and I can't stop,
I know.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
And she I almost cried the other day.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
She was over at my house and we made it
almost an hour and a half and when she was
walking out, I hugged her and she goes, You're not crying.
I was like nope, and like I'm literally swallowing her
back up. So I think because the love and the
relationship that we have been able to cultivate over the
last twenty years, we just kind of been there for
each other. And you know, this is what I said.
I remember the day after I said to my husband
(05:45):
and I'm like, I have one job right now. I
know what Shannon would have wanted me to do, and
people would have thought many things, but the one thing
that I knew was my job till the day I
die is to make sure that I call my Marosa
every morning and just find out what she's doing, and
she does, are you fitting the docks? I'm very annoying.
I'm like, what are you doing? What do you want
to talk about? And she's like, She's like, didn't you
(06:06):
just wake up? Did you have coffee already? She's like,
why are you so lively? And I'm like, what's up?
So I just wanted to make sure that she never
misses what she had with Channon, where you know, they
were so very close, one of the most beautiful momy
daughter relationships I've ever witnessed. So I will never be
able to replace her, but I will make sure that
(06:26):
she never feels alone as long as I can help it.
No wonder where I am in the world, I'm going
to figure it out to make sure I called her
in the morning and just say good morning.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So she called me every morning from Puerto Rico recently,
I did, I did so.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Anyways, thank you guys. I think that we have a
bunch of questions that were sent. What do you think
she would want you to do to keep her legacy alive?
I think that's a good one for you. Let's throw
it right in there.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, I think we've got a good start on it
right now with all the people that are listening to
the podcast, and I hope that we can keep the
podcast going, and that depends on everybody and me as well,
and I promise to do better as I get along
with this. I'm still you're doing amazing.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I'm still alone, You're doing great, hy with it? But
and it's different. I'm sitting here with am Marie, and
I chose A Marie because I knew I would have
a different comfort zone. But when I did it before,
I was sitting across from Shannon, So it's kind of
right now. It's a little overwhelming for me in that respect.
But as I get along down the road, it'll get better,
(07:34):
I know, get better.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I hope it can be just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
And her legacy will be the love that she gave
to everybody that she knew, and the love that she
gave to people that she didn't know. I went to
a lot of conventions with her, and I watched her
hug these people and tears come into her eyes for
the people and the stories that they were telling her.
And she felt it very important that she takes the
(08:01):
time with people and people who needed a hug. And
I think that's her legacy that people actually and even
more so now they're realizing what a wonderful, kind and
warm human being she was.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, and those who really knew her and those who
were like in her inner circle always knew that she
truly was the warmant, the kindest, you know friend there was.
I think a very important thing for me that I
have been able to get out of all of the
messages is that I knew how important it was. And
(08:39):
you guys have heard on the podcast, on the episode
that she and I did together. You know, the moment
that she shaved her head and she went public with
her cancer was a big, big, big moment for her,
for you, for me, for all of those around her.
But I don't think I ever realized the mass manitude
(09:00):
of the the way was received by people that were
going through what she was going through. I people loved her,
admired her, and to see the strength to go out
there in a world where it's so superficial, right this world,
the social media and all the things, where everyone is
just basically like putting this persona out there, and she
(09:23):
just went out there raw. I remember, like we were
shaving the head. It was you and me, and I
was like, I had no idea what I was doing
I kept looking at her.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I called you because she she called me. She I
was there with her, and she's like, okay, mom, I
want you to cut my hair. I'm like what because
at the time she she was losing some hair, but
she still had a full head of hair. And she said, no,
come with me, and she took me into the bathroom
and she put her hair in a ponytail and she said,
cut this ponytail off now. And I did cut the ponytail,
(09:52):
and then we're looking at each other like what are
we going to.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Do now with the rest?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
So she and she says, I think we just need
to go ahead and do it all now. Just I'm like,
are you sure. I'm like really she said yeah. I'm like, well,
we don't have a shaver. She said, let's call that Marie.
So we didn't the red Rocket Marie.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I mean, it's usually kind of how our stories end.
It's always like you guys start something and you're like, oh, crap,
we need somebody to finish it up. So anyways, next
thing I know, I'm on my way, I pull up
the routes, I grab a couple of different ones, and
then you know, we just kind of figure it out,
and it was not easy. I mean, for those of
you who are going through this, you will know that
(10:33):
it is not as easy as it looks. You actually
need some training. So I got some training real quickly.
But you know what, in all seriousness, it was a
big moment. I didn't realize it till later on, Like
how brave she was, Like how truly brave she was
to just bear it all and share it with you guys,
and you know the outpouring of love after that post.
(10:56):
I remember, we talked about it and we kept saying, impressed,
do we say it? Do we not do it? Do
we do it in black and white? I mean, we
went back and forth, and then finally when we saw
the response, we were like, this is the right thing
because there's so many people out there going through this alone. Right,
they don't have the support that you have in a
mom like Rosa or a friend like me or Chris
(11:18):
or all the people around her that truly we're here
to support her no matter what. And she truly gave
them the courage to just like go for it and
go out there and talk about it and also create
all the awareness she truly on her own created so
much breast cancer awareness. She did so much work on
her own and I hear that every day every time
(11:40):
I look through messages, they're like, because of her, I
went and got tested, and I did this, and I
found that at this stage or that stage. So we
will forever be so grateful that she did that, and
I feel honored that she allowed me to be part
of that in helping some of these people get through it.
You know, together with us, it was like one big
(12:00):
big we were just like it.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Was turned into a head shaving party and so much
more right because then people who are willing to talk
about not just the loss of the hair, but like
having a misectomy, having.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
To go through chemo, the radiation, Do I do it?
Do I not do it? What am I going to
feel like? And she truly was so raw and share it,
and I think that, you know, it's a very hard
thing to do. And she truly gave a platform for
women and for men and for many that didn't exist before.
(12:47):
She has the most amazing fans.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
She really does, she really not.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I still remember our first trip to New York. I
remember I never really experienced the paparazzi that yeah, And
I remember we were just like I never cared. I
was just like I would put on whatever. And we
were walking down Soha and all of a sudden, she goes,
don't look, and of course you're going I look.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I'm like hey, and next.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Thing, you know, we have like fifteen people. This is
like back in two thousand and one. This is a
long time ago. And I remember we were just shopping
and I'm like, I don't understand. I'm like, we're just shopping.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
She goes.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I know, she goes, but you gotta look pretty while
we're shopping, you know. And it was so funny because
it was like I never really care, and it was
just kind of like part of like our relationship. I
think that's why we were so close, because like, I
just never really care. I would try to walk on
the other side of the street and she'd be like,
where are you going.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I'm like, I'll see you over here.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
You let them follow you. And you know, my husband's
a very very private, quiet person. As most of you think,
I'm not even married, but I've been married twenty three
years and i have a sixteen year old and you know,
Shannon and my husband were very, very very close.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
She adored Scott, and she in him and trusted his
knowledge of things.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, he knows a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
He knows a lot of a lot, a lot a lot.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
So yeah, I know, it's you know, we really do
have I have spent People keep asking me, how are
you doing, and I'm like, you know how I'm doing.
I'm just going down memory lane, truly enjoying all of
the beautiful, beautiful memories that I created with her. And
let me tell you, I forgot how many things we did.
We lived, we lived hard, and lived like we truly
(14:29):
did live like. We had some fun trips. We had
some that were like, eh, yeah, whatever, you know, Okay,
I mean, I remember we went to Miami on a
girl's trip. I wanted a girl strip. So she's like,
I'm coming and I think there's a bunch of pictures
of I was like sitting on the plane with ar Mimosas.
And then it was the beginning of snapchat, do you remember,
And yeah, my god, that whole night we just sat
in the hotel room doing Snapchat videos. So I was
(14:51):
like pretending to cry. Next thing, you know, we're taking
walks on the beach, and you know, I feel one
of the things I've learned, you know, over the past
month or so, is that I want to really enjoy
the moment. I really want to like just connect, like
when Rosa and I are together now and we speak
every day and I see her multiple times a week,
(15:12):
and we got her favorite lunch plates and we do
our stuff, like I just want to be present. And
that's the one thing I have to say. Be present
with your family, with your friends, with the ones you care,
with the ones you love. Don't be looking at your phone.
Just like enjoy it, because that was the That's one
of the gifts that Shannon and I had in our relationship.
There was none of this when she and I met.
There was none of it. It was just her and
(15:34):
I making the fun. We started the phone. We didn't
have a phone taping recording what was happening. We lived
the moment. And I say that to my daughter all
the time. That's one of the most precious things that
I like remember in our relationship.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
You know, that's well in Shannon and I had like
such a phenomenal mother daughter relationship, and I always said
to her, like you are my heart, and she is
she's my heart, and I just we just it's so
much together, and I would I have my own place,
and I would go to I would get ready to
(16:11):
go to my own place, and she'd said, where are
you going. I remember, well, I'll be back on Monday.
Or I said no, no, no, why don't you just
spend the night and then in the morning we'll do
so and so, no shopping, or we'll do this. And
I'm like, well, but I really need to get back
and check on things at my place. And she said
it's okay, you can do that in the morning. And
(16:31):
when the morning came, so finally I'm like, I do
have her place, but my place has been with her
for a long time now. It was like, you gotta
go home, mom. You can't go back to your place.
This is home.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Your relationship was truly special, you know, like I it's
it's one of a kind and they'll be they'll never
be one like it. And you're very blessed in a way,
like you spend more time with your daughter the most
mother spends in a lifetime.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Well, and everybody, what's so dear to me? People that
I don't even know that maybe she's seen out somewhere
at the convention or whatever, and I know with all
our friends. She really goes into it. But it's always
they say, Shannon loves you so much. She told us
all about you and she loves you so much. And
(17:22):
then all my friends, I mean even now, it's like,
you know, Shannon told us we have to take care
of you and to watch out for you, and.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
She loved you so much, and that was the only
thing she cared about. She cared that you had company
that you were taking care of. And guess what, she
has the closest people to her. That's what we're doing.
We are Her orders are our commands, and we're on
it and we will be here until you get sick
of us.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Every time I talk about maybe, well maybe I'll like
move to Italy or maybe I'll go somewhere, and I
mentioned moving to Italy and our friend Chris is like, well, yes,
we can do that.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
We're going together. It's a whole, full pack, a.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Whole it's a whole packagees. We have our little group
here and we just stick together. And that's all because
of Shannon. Shannon included me. She always in always with
her friends from the beginning, even when she was young.
I mean I remember when she was even when she
(18:24):
was like eighteen. There would be a group of them
that they would go to Jerry's Deli on the sun
special night it was midnight bowling and Tom and I
would be in bed very you know, sleep. It would
be two one or two in the morning. And it
wouldn't be Shannon calling always. It would be at the
(18:44):
time Deborah who we lost Deborah to cancer and that
was a close friend as well, but it would be Deborah,
could be well, anybody, any of the friends. They say, hey, Mom,
we're bowling. Where are you? And Dad, I'm like, we're
in bed, get up and come on, let's go. We
would get up and we would get dressed and we
would go. And because of that, they always knew that
(19:08):
we were their ride or die.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
If even now, if anybody's like, just call me, I'm there,
and that's like a Marie does the same thing because
now her daughters, our beautiful lives sixteen years old, and
so she's experiencing it with living her friends.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Exactly and then honestly, there's nothing more beautiful, you know,
That's the whole point. I always say, what's the point
of having kids if you don't want to be with them?
Twenty for seven exactly, and.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
When they include you with their friends, but.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
That means you raise them. Right, Let's just talk about it,
because if they want to be with you and they
want to share all of their memories with you, as
you know, I just had a house full of guests, yes,
and you know that's special. That means you did something right,
you know. So and Shannon, you know, she really did
have a beautiful group of friends. You know, she really
(19:57):
truly did. And they were her rider died. It didn't
matter what time of the day it was. We all
showed up for her because she did that for us.
I remember, not that long ago, I haven't been feeling well.
I had like call it lung covid. We don't know
what it was, but whatever, let's not get into that.
And I remember I wasn't feeling one hundred percent for
(20:18):
a while. And it's not like me, like I like
to work out, I'm super healthy. I take care of myself.
And you know, I remember she called me one day
and she's like, where're you been? And I was like
I'm here and she's like, no, no, no, where've you been?
And then I was like, why are you being mean
to me? And she's like, well, you don't called me,
you haven't bothered me, you haven't showed up at my house,
you haven't made me work out. She has something's wrong
(20:41):
with you. And I was like, well, I don't feel
so good. She's like, what do you mean you don't
feel good? Yeah, and then I realized in that moment.
She was like why didn't you tell me you don't
feel good? She's like, did you talk to Pierre And
I'm like, yes, I talked to Pierra and that's her doctor.
And she's like what do you say? And I'm like, well,
no one really knows what's up. And she's like, well,
let's figure it out. She goes, I have this doctor. Doctor.
(21:01):
She's like, I'm on my way, mom, we gotta go
take care of memory. And I'm like no. I was like,
you just had chemo when you're throwing up and you're sick,
and she goes and she literally part of my world.
She's like, shut the f up. She goes, just because
I'm sick, it doesn't mean you're not allowed to be
sick with me, and I remember it hit me and
it made me cry because I used to shelter her
from the things that were going on with me, and
(21:21):
she's like, we're not friends if you can't tell me
when you don't feel good. She goes, I don't care
if it's a headache. I don't care if it's a toe.
She goes, I'm your friend. This is a both goes
both directions. And that's the kind of person that she was.
It didn't matter. She's just finishing the toilet. She would
be like one second and she's like, wait, back to you.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
What hurts?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
She goes, let me put that on Google. She would
diagnose me. So that's truly the kind of friend. And honestly,
like talking right now, it's like I miss her, Like
I miss her so much. God, yeah, Like it's just
not real, you know, it's I keep going and I
keep getting myself. I have reorganized my freaking house so
(22:02):
many times. On my drawers, I'm pulling everything in her house.
I made Claudia, who's our housekeeper, I made Claudia go
with me to the into the pantry. I'm like, everything
in here has got to be taken out. And when
you started laughing, because the last time that happened is
when Shannon did it. So the apple doesn't fall far
(22:24):
from thee in that respect. But I think that's what
you and I do. We just like we kind of
keep going instead of sitting, and like, I know at
some point we have to sit and feel the feelings.
But for now, I'm just keeping busy, Like I just
I keep picking up the phone, and I keep wanting
to tell her something funny that happened that only she
(22:44):
would think it's funny. And that's the thing, like, you know,
you have all different I have. I'm very blessed, I
have great friends, I have a beautiful family, my family,
my mom, my dad. But there's just shit. I would
tell her that just only she would get yeah, And
like I keep thinking to myself, is she punking me?
She kind of come out like I swear it on
my way here, and I'm like, maybe this is all Joe.
(23:06):
Maybe she'll come out and be like, ah, I got
you all. You know. So it's like it really makes
me sad, and like I have gone through the process
of I get sad and I cry and I get angry.
I haven't had a full cry yet. I don't know when.
I'm sure it'll come at some point when I truly
realize it. And as you guys, know eventually in some
(23:28):
near future we're going to do a celebration. Yes, right,
I know that that's been asked a lot. We're working
on it, Roses. This is on Ross's terms. When she's ready,
we'll let you guys know. Just some lot involved right
now that we have to take care first. It's funny
(23:57):
talking about her thinking that she's going to be here.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
It's like just a week ago. I was in my car,
which I call the Beast, and it's new. It was
Shannon wanted to be sure that I had a car
that was new and that was really big and heavy
so that I was really safe. I loved my car
(24:23):
that I had, and one day I came in it
had disappeared. She said there was something wrong, and I
had triple A take it to the shop, but used
mine while you're waiting for years, and then one day
that the car came so it long story short. I
had to go to Beverly Hills to drop something off,
and I had a friend with me and we were
(24:44):
coming back and I left Beverly Hills. I got in
front of the Mormon Temple and Santa Monica Boulevard and
the car started wanting to do things on its own. Well,
I was resistant and I both hands on the steering wheel.
I'm like, no, no, no, I refuse to get on the
but I drove all the way from Beverly Hills in
major daytime traffic to Malibu part the car, and I'm like, okay,
(25:09):
I'll use Shannon's car from now on. So Anne Marie
heard my troubled story and she says, we got to
fix that. We got to fix that. And she actually
came over and we sat in the car together, and
she had a friend who had a similar experience with
a car like mine, so she kind of knew where
to start. But so then when she got it all fixed,
(25:33):
we went to lunch and she said, I'm just going
to follow you and then I'll go on to my
house afterwards, but we will know that your car is okay.
I was so excited by the time I got back
and I felt so good. A Marie and I had lunch,
the car was fixed, everything up. I opened the door,
I went running in the house and I'm like, Shannon,
guess what. A Marie fixed my car? And then I
(25:56):
was like and then the tears came. Yeah, I'm like
she's not here.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Now you know it did.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
She did leave me with this car that this girl
has a mine of its own.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
It really was in a mind of its own.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
It just had the assist at lane driving that Rosa
was not used to because I know it was on there.
So basically, anytime she would get off a little bit
of the lane, it would push her back into the lane,
which is kind of like an amazing feature if you
know about it. But when you have these beasts that
(26:29):
you call her, you know, pushing you to one side,
it's a little scary. So we fixed it. Her business
fully operational. She will take on the roads and the canyons,
and she calls me and I make sure she texts
me every time she gets off the canyon. I'm like,
are you home? Are you inside? Did we lock the doors?
I mean, I've become I've become Chandon's. She says, where
are you? I don't know where I was because she
(26:51):
had a tracker on me. Oh I'm gonna we're doing that,
but we're where are you?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Because I can hear her on the road and it
was late in Calabasas.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
What are you doing there?
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I'm like, you're like twenty five minutes away from the house.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I was like, get over the canyon already.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I'm like, I'm coming over out of the canyon. I'm good,
and I'm all good. She's what minute you get in
you let me know? Yeah, I need to know.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I need to know where the important people in my
life are at all times before I close my eyes.
You know, it's just how it is. It's the Puerto
Rican in me. It's that you know, protector. So you know,
I do have those moments for sure that I just
keep wanting to dial the phone. And I have a
couple of She never used to lead boys notes, but
I have a couple of voice messages and I listened
(27:37):
to me. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
She would just call and hang up. Yeah, just like
it's like, oh, Shannon called, What did she want? When
you call her?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I hear her the way she used to call Scott. Yeah, time,
you know what she used to call him. I'm not
going to say it, but I hear it all the time.
She's like, hey, what's up? And I'm like, oh my god,
I'm not going to hear that again. Yeah, but you
know what, we truly are last. We have amazing memories.
She fought the fight like no one I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
She and she didn't show it.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
She really did it.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
She didn't show it. She did not. We would go out,
we would go to dinner or whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
And grocery store.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
She loves you too, love the grocery store. There's more
paparazzi pictures of vintage browsers and any other stores.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
The grocery store. But whenever I would go by myself
or like I was, I have a little job that
I do and when I would leave work, and I
would always text her and call her and say, hey,
I'm leaving work. Didn't need anything and want me to
pick up something for dinner or I can order something
for dinner, and uh, she said, We'll go to the
grocery store and pick up maybe five items. I'm that
(28:39):
person when I go to the grocery store. It's very
relaxing to me. And some grocery stores have great music.
You could probably do a date night there at midnight,
and they have everything you'd need. But it would be
like the phone, I'm in the grocery store. Where are you?
What are you? I'm like, I'm in the grocery store.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
She just send me for five or five things.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I go up and down in every aisle. Yeah, I know,
I just do it.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
It's they're a predict.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
Yeah. I love the grocery store. It's the same way
that you like to go out eat. I do nice
drive just to like drive out, I have to get
out and just change the scenery for a little exactly.
And by the way, for everyone asking, Bowie's doing just great, yes,
always thriving. I just took her on a little walk
(29:25):
and she got so excited. She was like ready to
play for the it's so pretty.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
She gave me a full smile, and.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
She's kind of smiled at her times when she We
kind of like to set the times because I also
have a little dog, Indy, and Bowie doesn't like other dogs,
so we have to keep them, keep them statement. The
boy knows what time is her bedtime, and when it's bedtime,
she she lets me know. She's standing there waiting at
(29:55):
the door. I don't take her up and downstairs anymore
because she has a little arthritis in her back in
but so we have to come outside and all the
way around and then downstairs, and she goes in and
she's down for the night, and she will not get
out of her bed until I go in and get
her up in the morning.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
She's Grandma got her. Yeah. She truly was Shannon's best friend.
She was there with her through every single step, and
she loved her and cared for her. And she's doing.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Really, really good. We were so worried about her, I know,
so we really were. And Shannon has said to me,
she said, because Shannon got to where we used to
walk her out together and then sometimes we'd walk out
the front door and Shannon would sit on the bench
and she said, I'm just going to sit here for
a Whileie, you and boy go on and I'll wait
right here for you.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
And she was getting boy used to just being with me. Yeah,
she would say, go to grand go with Grammy. Now
you're going to go with Grammy. And so we were
transitioning Bowie.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
And she's doing good.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
She's done very well. Everybody that's seen her has been
amazed at how well she's doing.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
She's a good one. She's a good soul, very good girl.
So anyways, I don't know, I think what.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I think we've probably covered more than enough. And I'm
sorry for me in the beginning because I was.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
Really it was really like a little trepidacious for me
today because it's you know, it's one thing having sat
down with Shannon to do it and and then to
know that, Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I'm I want to do this. I want to keep
this going for her. So the nerves were really in
because I really want to keep up with you guys,
and for you guys to keep up with us and
know what's going on and continue to love and bring
some of our.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Friends so she loved and some of the people that
she already had, bring them back and test we're going
about her and you know, just reminisce and just like
keep her life going and keep all the work and
all the awareness that she put out there. Continue to
do that.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
And I'm going to force a Marie to come back
in some wild I think it'll be very good and
very healing for you. Ultimately, that's the reason we're all here.
We're all here for Mamrosa. We're all here to make
sure that you're good, that you have.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Company, that you have all the love Shannel used to
give you, and that you never ever feel like ever
you know so.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
And we want you to understand that we all want to.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Let's be clear, So stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Bye
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