Miss Elisa Donovan

We’re not Clueless, Tori sits down with Elisa Donovan. Elisa shares the story of the major role she almost got on Beverly Hills, 90210 — not Ginger Lamonica! She reveals  details about a Clueless reboot, AS IF!  Where is Amber now??
 
Plus, she drops a surprising sTORI about dating a member of a famous boy band!

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hi, Hi, how are you? I'm okay, how are you?
Friend all?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
I'm good, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I wish I could hug you right now.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
I know me too, I can see me too.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh my gosh, is it summer break yet?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
And uh is that maddening if you could look at
like the art.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
My office is like the guest bedroom also, and it
is just stacked with Scarlett's going to sleep away camp
a couple of days. She's totally terrified at first. Well,
she went once for a week, which was like a
total shi t show. It was like bad wound up
being like.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Her entire class of girls.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
And like it just was wrong. It was like taking
the school playground and then putting it in camp. Like
it wasn't supposed to be like that. So somebody like
broke their foot, people were fighting, you know, it was
like ridiculous. So this is really the first time she's
going for two weeks on the East coast, and so anyway,
it's like stacked with you know, like all the stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Like, oh my gosh, that's okay, I have a podcast
in the corner of my room. It's like bad kids.
That's all I'm allowed. This is my work space.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
This is.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Wait, I have chills, and you're totally relaxed about it
and it's not even my kid, Like, oh that would
I know?

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I also, well, she she's an only child, right, so
all this there are a whole host of things that
she doesn't learn from just having to like share her space,
her time, her focus like with other people.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
So this away camp is like super important for her
to have agency and kind of grow up a little bit.
Like she's super mature in one way in the sense
that she can be around adults and can you know,
have those conversations, but she also is a little bit
like can you get me the water? And I don't
want to do that? And I don't want to do that,

(02:19):
like just sort of does what she wants to do.
So I don't know. It just seems like super important.
So I'm a little nervous too, like I'm going to
miss her more probably than she will ultimately miss me.
But it just feels like super important, like it has
to happen.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
My kid just got her driver's license first one on.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
That Holy that feels scary to me.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
That feels I mean, at this point I wish you'd
go to sleep away camp like this is I'm like,
I haven't seen her.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Right, She's like bye bye.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Literally, I'm like whoa. And this is the one out
of the five that was I would say the cleaniest.
When she was younger, interesting, and I always had such worries,
like like at times she would be like knitting next
to me in bed and I'm like, you're fourteen, Like
are you sure you don't want to go hang out
with friends? She's like, oh my good, do you want

(03:13):
to put on a movie? And I'm like, oh no.
This is what.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Worries me about my daughter. So this has made me
feel better that she.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
She is not like fly be free transformation, like and
this just happened. I would say last year, she's seventeen.
Last year friend group all of a sudden, like it
just everything changed. Now she got her license and it's
just like bye bye.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Especially in LA because everything you just you need a car,
Like it's so so you really do you know, We're
in San Francisco and it's you still you can't like
walk everywhere, but it's such a small city that you
know they'll just probably could just it's not you know
it's not. I don't feel like it's as much of
a you know, like a win for them. Like I

(03:58):
don't know if she even wants to learn how to drive.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Well, my eight year old he's fine with uber, right, firstborn. Yeah,
and he's like, nah, I'm good, I'll get to it.
I'm like, wow, Like when you were sixteen, did you
get your license right away?

Speaker 3 (04:16):
I got? I remember I was dots in a dots
in five ten and that was like one hundred and
fifty years old when I started driving it. Yeah, loved.
I think it's like sixteen. I think I think I
was sixteen. But it was like that conditional one you couldn't.
I could drive to school and work and then I

(04:36):
would get busted. Like I would drive out at lunch
and be like smoking out the window with like ten
people in the car and then seeing my mom, you know, no,
and I was pretend like it wasn't me. Is if
she you know, I'd be like, oh, I don't even
see what are you talking about? That wasn't me, And
she's like, I'm looking right at you. It is you,
and you're driving and you're not supposed to be driving.

(04:59):
That I really yeah, Like you.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Couldn't no back then. But back then they had to
like go on foot or car or horse and buggy
and trust and track us down. Like now, it's just
like life three sixty. I know, I'm not like people
are like I have TikTok addictions. I'm like I have
Life three sixty addictions. Right, I will, I'm not kidding.

(05:22):
I will sit and just stare at it. And it's
like I can see all five, like not all five
because bows home with me, but four of them moving,
and I'm just.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Like la la la, Oh my god, this is like
fixated Harry Potter map. Did you guys ever watch Harry Potter.
I'm still a Harry Potter fan. It's a night like
comfortable safe place that map where they could see all
the little feet the Marauders map. I forgot about it.
You could watch all the little feet traveling around. I
do feel it. Don't you think that there is like

(05:52):
a but there's there has to be some sort of
a balance between we get you know too much about
our kids, Like we're too aware of what they're doing
all the time, which is good for like safety, but
then also I feel like, how do I let go
of her? Like there's a certain amount of like they're

(06:14):
supposed to do stuff on their own, you know, right,
Whether it's like I try not to curate her life,
but in some regard it's like if we don't create
things to do, I don't know, she's like staring at
a screen anyway. I've been thinking about this more and
more of how like when she gets older, I'm probably
going to be just like that, like where is she
all the time?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
You know, Yeah, that's just my personal It's like an
OCD thing, Like I'm not even that she's a good girl,
so I'm not even that worried about her. It's like
little known. Sorry, this interviews about you and I'm talking
about me. But so it's like, yeah, here we go,
let's talk about whatever. When I'm on an airplane and
there's a screen, my favorite thing to watch is the

(06:56):
airplane and tracking it.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Oh, I love that too.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
For hours, people are like, do you know that's on?
There's like movies here and TV shows. I'm like, no,
it's my safe place. I like to just look at it.
And that's what I do with life. Three sixty.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
There is something about that that plane thing that is
suit that thing of watching that's soothing to me because
it feels like life is suspended somehow, like I don't
there's nothing really I'm supposed to be doing because I'm
up in the air, so I have all this time

(07:32):
to just sort of be, especially if I'm flying by myself,
it's like heaven, Like really.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
I wanted too, Yeah, I could never. I mean my
I have a fear of flying. I'm not like em
Sugarman on a plane, but like I it's yeah, I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Ioughly forgot that. But you're getting better, right, getting better? Yeah,
you've done it.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
You've done it by much semi refer formed scared flyer.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
I mean that's probably why you get comfort out of
watching the thing, because it's like, oh, we haven't we
haven't crashed, We're still.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Going, We're still in the still up there. I used
to always have to look out the window and just
like tracking, and people are like, we want to sleep,
like we want the window shades down. And then I'm
always like if I can, like I have to have
a window seat. And I know people are probably like, oh,
she's so bougie, like she like she's such a diva,
And I'm like, no, no, no, I just need to look

(08:30):
out the plane window because like Twilight Son traumatized me
when I was young that there was like a little
green man on the plane wing. Uh huh my god,
Twilight's so oh I just pulled back.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
But still you're talking about like the original Like O G,
I remember there were two that scared the Bejesus out
of which too.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
I love this question.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
You realize that these people are trying to get like
climb out of this thing and then in the end
they fall out of it's a lamp post and they
fall into the snow.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I'm like, you just rode it for everyone who hasn't
seen it. Oh wait, I love that one, the ballerinas
in the box.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yes, something that there was another one with the mask
those like yes, looking all I have an image of that.
I don't remember what it was about, but like.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I'm looking at it right now. One's like a pig
snout mask. It in my head. Oh wait, did you
like this one? The one where they used to dive
into the pool and they'd go down and they would
come up somewhere else. Yes, Yes, that one, yes, yes,
the one. I'm getting so excited right now.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Oh my god, they were super scary, like the I mean,
that's a lot of years ago, and those images completely
are embedded in my brain.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I can't get them out. Like and you guys like
we're talking about well, I don't know if we're talking
about the same one, but we're talking about the black
and white version.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Black and white version.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Oh yeah, that were that old of you guys, But
that's what we did have color TV TV.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, there was colored when we were kids, but there
was also some black and white.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah. So I just remember every summer Fourth of July
they would screen all of them from like morning till midnight.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
It was God.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
So I feel like I always wound up hitting on
the same episodes, Like I bet I haven't seen everyone same,
Like I see the same ones.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Wait, I wonder if that's a sign.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
That felt like, oh that's this is what I'm supposed
to see this.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
I don't know, yeah, like energetically you were supposed to
see those interesting. Actually I want my kids to watch it,
but I feel like they'd be like black and white,
I know, because the remake ones weren't the same for me.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
No, they were No, No, they were Okay, I.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Want to talk to you about Clueless, but I feel
like everybody talks to you about Clueless. Okay, I mean
they did. We're known for Clueless.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
But you know, I just had a moment about this
because we they just screened the film at the Academy
last weekend and we did this panel Alicia Brecken, Mona,
Mae Marshall, Ross and I and it was really you know, again,
we're asked to like talk about this all the time,
but something First of all, the event was super fun
and like really special, and there was something about that

(11:20):
event where I really just kind of settled in and
I realized, oh, this movie really impacted people, like they
really love it, and I don't That sounds so stupid
that I am just realizing that, but it's almost like,
I mean, I knew that obviously, but I felt like
I really appreciated it in a new way that I

(11:43):
hadn't before, where I don't have any kind of I
don't have any weird feelings about it, you know, I
don't like I did know that I did before. Your
feelings like we're not weird, but sort of like it's impossible,
And I know you get this too, you know, it's
impossible to separate yourself from that when you're so associated

(12:04):
with something right, So it's like it just inherently is
a part of yours. If people ask like, oh, how
does it feel to do this, well, I don't know,
because I don't know what it.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Feels like to not right.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
So I guess the weird feelings being. I think the
older that I get, the more appreciative I am of it,
and the more I think distance helps to just kind
of really have gratitude, to see it with clarity, and
the things that were hard about it are no longer hard.

(12:39):
You know, it doesn't feel as.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
You've compartmentalized the trauma that.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, I think so, you know, because there are like
the years there's some years where I just felt like,
oh my god, what am I doing with my life?
No matter what else I do, no matter what other
projects I do, people, I really the way I would
do it. What are you doing right now? I'm like, oh, well,
I'm doing this movie or this show. It's like, oh, yeah, okay,

(13:05):
well we don't care about that, Like we don't. You know,
it feels like your life has no meaning or something.
So that is like a personal sort of adjustment that
I had to go through, of feeling like I, you know,
I may never have an experience like that again, and
that's a huge gift that I had in the first place,

(13:26):
you know, and sort of just moving through it all
and all the things that's allowed me to do, you know,
an artist as a creative person, as it gets, really
afforded me many many other things in life that I
feel really appreciative for. So I guess that's what I mean, Like,

(13:47):
I don't feel any I don't know, I just.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Like, how old were you when you got that girl?

Speaker 3 (13:53):
I was twenty, no, twenty hyman and I was twenty
two one or twenty too, And so you know, I
had done one other I moved to LA from New
York and so because really what happened the year was it?
The year before? No, that summer I tested for nine

(14:17):
O two one zero. It was Tiffany oh right, and
Meredith and the three of us, And obviously Tiffany got
the role.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Meredith for Valerie. Yeah, like wait, Meredith Salander, Yes, yes.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
It was the three of us. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
I loved her in the Journey of nat Again when
I was a kid, Oh my god. And then we
went on to go to school together. Oh you did, yes?

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Oh I wait, I never.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Knew that she was at the third one testing.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yes, And I didn't know anybody, right, I didn't know Tiffany,
I didn't know Meredith. I didn't I was like petrified.
I remember your dad being so nice to me from
the beginning, Like he just was so kind. I was like,
ohh and I was super nervous. And then didn't get
the job obviously, and then I went back to New

(15:09):
York for like a month, moved to LA and I
started working on Blossom, that TV show Blossom with my
and they hired me for one episode and then we
had great chemistry. I was playing Joey's like girlfriend love interest,
and then they started they wrote more episodes for me,

(15:29):
and then I got clueless, and then I couldn't do
the show anymore. So everything kind of like happened quickly,
and then gosh, and then I wound up going back.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, what if you had gotten nine O two and O.
I know it would have changed your whole journey.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
It would have changed my whole journey. I would have
like a whole other then.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Oh my god, wait, like Amber Valerie, I don't know
which one I would know.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
It isn't that crazy because I could never have done Clueless.
If I would is doing nine O two and O
like I wouldn't be named.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Maybe Tiffany would have gotten the role of Amber. Maybe
Tiffany would have Tiffany Aberthiesen. We just rewrote history. I
mean obviously nine O two one I was very special
to me and to you because you played gingerl Monica
on it, But like Clueless, that's a whole nother entity.
And maybe because I can see it from an outside
perspective as a fangirl.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Oh right, yeah, like.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Gosh, you got the movie, you got the series. That
was a much better choice. I'm so glad you didn't
get that role. Thank you, Dad.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Well, I remember, Yeah, he was so nice to me
and he looked I just and so when I wound
when I went back to audition for Ginger Jason, maybe
he wasn't a producer before and then he became one,
or maybe he was what wasn't in the room the
first time, I don't know, but he was in there
like for the final callback.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
And really I don't think he was a producer yet
he wasn't.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Maybe he was de see or maybe he was there
because I had to work with me so much, with
my character so much.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
I don't know, but I remember Jason Priestley and they
were just like, oh, do you want to come in? Great?

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Great, great, great, good anything, And he was so nice
to me. I had such a great experience on that
show with you guys. It was like, it was so nice,
and I was totally freaking out because I was like
newly recovered from anorexia and I was like measuring my
food and being super weird, and I was like, everything's fine,
very fine. How do you just eat my yogurt and

(17:31):
my cereal? It's a half a cup? Like, I was
so freaked out, but everybody was super nice and friendly,
so I had a great time.

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Speaker 2 (18:27):
It's not interesting how we think about, like from our perspective,
what other people might notice when and I try to
teach my kids this every day, Like do you think
they're thinking this about me? And I'm like, they're thinking
about themselves, like you know about and no, that's I'm
fifty two. That's I think I just learned this like
last year.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yep, right, it longed me forever.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
To learn, Like that person looking at me weird that
do they hate me? Do they What are they thinking?
Do they not like what I'm wearing? It's like no,
they're thinking about like the fifty things they need to
get done one day. They're like looking right through you, Like.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, completely. I feel like that's the best lesson that
we could teach our kids. Like my daughter is thirteen
right now, she's newly thirteen, and she's like a little thirteen.
She hasn't gone through puberty yet, but some many of
her friends have, and so she is like I can
see her confidence starting to flail like should I were

(19:22):
Before she would just wear like you know, basketball shorts
or sweatpants, like that's what she's interested in. Now she's like, oh,
does this match this? And should I wear this? And
should I? And I like that she's starting to care
about kind of what she wears. But at the same
time can feel her starting to like lose her mojo

(19:45):
and she's like super unique and I do not want
her to lose that. And it's so hard to just
kind of sit back and be supportive but not try
to control the situation. But that confidence is so key
to you know, for girls especially.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah, no, I know, I don't know how to tell
them to maintain I don't know. God, all of our
lives would be so much different if we never lost
that youth confidence, like oh my gosh. And sometimes it
takes one thing, like it's one word that someone doesn't
even remember they said, and you're like, change my whole life,
Like yeah, yeah, I wish we could take that part out,

(20:26):
like everything else I'd like to leave in, like, you know,
even the bad stuff, like the heartbreak they'll experience like
that it's part of their journey. But if you take
out like that, that one moment when you start to
like question yourself physically, it's like oh.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Right right, it's like I I you know, and then
I don't want to put my own you know, my
is youth from that time are not hers, you know.
So I don't need to be like, you know, worried.
I worry about her. I want her to get enough nutrition.
I so I have to like talk about food differently

(21:04):
than I would, but I have to not be like
you need to eat something, you know. So I'm like
trying not to make her crazy, which who knows whether
I'm succeeding, but uh, you know, like I don't want
to put my stuff onto her. But also because I'm
a big fan of being a weirdo. Like I was
a weird kid, I was like, I'm cool with that.

(21:26):
I think it is like great to be an individual
and like.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Just be love. Yeah, me too. I don't think I'm
conditioned to be a weird kid. But I definitely was.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
I mean, you probably because you were in like you
were just in the public eye, whether or not you
were on TV, yet like that was your whole world.
Was THEO was people that that certainly had to care
about what they looked like and you know that was
like just a part of what you grew up with, right,
I mean, there's no Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
I remember the first time that I wanted to dress
differently than what was expected of me as a young kid.
And a friend's mom took us to Melrose And it
was in the eighties, late eighties, so I was probably
like eleven twelve, and I came home with a head
to toe orange Neon outfit.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Oh my god, I love it.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Everyone's like it. Yeah, everyone wears me on. It's like
no like in our day in the eighties, Like it
was like shocking and new and like mesh like the gloves,
like thinking Madonna, but like and I had the bow orange.
I chose of all colors like bright orange. And I
just remember like my mom trying to be very encouraging,
but she was probably like what is going on?

Speaker 3 (22:45):
She was like, oh, people are going to give her
a hard time about.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Oh yeah, I think I wore it out once and
I was like okay now, but I'd say, wait, who
else audition for Amber?

Speaker 3 (22:58):
I feel like I heard stories of Sarah Michelle Geller
because it was like they were she might have auditioned
for Share too. But there were no auditions for for
Alicia for Share because Amy already decided that she wanted Alicia.

(23:18):
She had the script and she was was already in development.
And then she saw Alicia in in the I think
the Arabs with the videos and she was like, this
is the girl. So it was always she was always
going to be Share. So it must have been Amber
that Sarah auditioned for and somebody else too, like of

(23:43):
the nineties ilk of that that.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Time, one of those nineties girls. I was with Alicia
the night she got like the firm offer, like it
was happening really, yes, Oh I love that because we
had met because her boyfriend at the time, I was
dating his friend, and we became fast friends. And I

(24:07):
just remember she got it like she was like, it's happening,
it's going through. And we went to Jones.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
The Italian place.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yes, it was like dark boots and everything, and then
they had the bar area yeah, and she was like,
let's go to dinner to celebrate, and we went. I
was like, oh my god, I didn't know that you
guys were like friends.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
I love her so much. We just got when we
did nineties Con when I saw you for the first
time and yes, which is now a couple of years ago.
I guess that night we had we had just done
the Super Bowl commercial together a couple months before, but
we didn't.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Have any time, which was so radh my god.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Hang out.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
That was like surreal to be in the They started
that trend going on, like now all ninety stuff nostalgia,
like everyone's coming back and doing commercials. I love it, Brian,
and I just did too, but like you did yay, yeah, yeah,
you and Alicia bitterly but.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
She So we didn't have a lot of time when
we were shooting to like hang out, catch up anything,
but at nineties Con we did and we went we
had dinner that night this Saturday, and it was the
first time where we got to be like, oh, oh,
I like you, how are you? Like we're grown nile
and we talked about our own experiences of that time

(25:25):
and it was so wonderful, Like I just loved it
because you know, we could talk about it in a
real way where all of the guys are like, oh,
it was so great. We were like playing basketball in
between shots and it was totally cool. And meanwhile, you know,
the girls are like, oh, I'm totally stressed out, like
this is really hard. Do I look? Okay? Am I doing?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
You know?

Speaker 3 (25:44):
And Alicia was like a million hours a day, you know.
So it just was really nice to talk about it
in a real way because obviously we're so grateful for it.
It's was a wonderful experience to have, you know. And
I felt like, oh, I guess it was my first movie,
so I felt like, oh, this is just how it works.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
When everything you do becomes a huge hit.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, he becomes a huge hit. That's how I felt
with dn't are the directors Like women write and direct everything.
They tell everyone what to do, and they're awesome and
they're geniuses. They hire the right people. I wish everything's perfect,
you know. And then of course you realize, oh, that
was a very unique situation, you know. I mean, Amy

(26:33):
was like she was incredible, and that was very unusual
for that time to have a female writer director that,
even though she had already done fast times as a writer,
she like, it was unusual for a studio movie for
them to allow that, and she was like incredible in

(26:54):
the wardrobe.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Oh my gosh, the wardrobe.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
I know, I know, it was really and that too,
you know, as an actor to have like that, the
wardrobe totally informed who my character was, like it was
a part of her. And that's such a help as
an actor to have things like it just helps you
to create such a specific person. And I loved that

(27:21):
so much, Like mona genius, genius, genius and so fun,
like just so much fun.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
I would love to pick a brain link and hear
the backstory of where that inspiration of everything came because
it's just so unique. Nothing's been done like it since. Yeah,
and she But I wonder how many people dressed up
as you for Halloween? No, no, I'm not kidding.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
I know.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
There was actually my my a friend of my husband's
from college when my husband and I first met and
the first time I met this friend who lives somewhere
in the Midwest, and he's like, oh, remember when we
met and you were dressed like your character for Halloween?
And I was like, no, I didn't do that, and
he said no, no, yeah you remember and you said, yeah,

(28:05):
it's really me but and I said no, I'm a
hundred percent sir, and I have never dressed as myself
for Halloween. And I thought, like, what are Everybody is
so like, one, did he really think that I would
dress hisself for Halloween? And then two I thought some
girl is like my doppelganger and convinced this guy that

(28:27):
I was really meet, Like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
The whole dresses Amber or dress your dressed as Amber?

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Can you imagine I was if I dressed as Amber
for Halloween?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I'm not mad at the idea that what it means,
and like not say anything and just walk in and
people be like, yeah, so we will be so excited.
And then there'd be the girls that'd be like, who
does she think she is?

Speaker 4 (28:50):
What? You love?

Speaker 2 (28:51):
God? Oh my god? People.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, they'd be like, wow, she really can't let it go.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
She can't let go my gosh. What Okay? So what
if you dressed as Amber and I dressed as Donna
and then we just went out about for the day
just to see yeah, and just acted like yours is
more iconic. It's hard to like really get an you're
very specific.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
It would be hard to know, like you'd have to
cut your hair like her or do something or right. No,
but even if you just wore one of the outfits
from that time, we would look that.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Would be okay. But it so hard to know because
all of those outfits are back in now.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
So oh my gosh, that's so crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Now it's leading into Y two K and I'm not
okay with that. Like, no, I wasn't as excited about
that trying.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah, let's like at least stick. The nineties were a happy,
brighter time.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yes, so they should like, yeah, everyone needs to milk them.
Milk the nineties as long as possible.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Milk it, milk it.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Okay. So, speaking of nineties, con Joey Fatone was there. Yes,
you've dated, so we.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Oh my god, it looks like I'm blushing. I am
not blushed.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
What I love.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yes, we did date. Yes we did. Now that was
a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yes, of course. And I look how you're clarifying this.
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
He cracks me up because that you know, we did
the music video. Also because they did an episode in
sanc did an episode of Clueless, and so that's how
we met. And then we would all just go out together.
I don't really know how it happened, but anyway.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
We wait. Was that was that the time that you
told me you might have made out in the dressing
room with him?

Speaker 3 (30:48):
So there was there was a moment when.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
My blending boys or that's the same boy.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
No, just just only in Joey so he had started
dating or whatever you would call it at the time.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
And then uh as the kids would say, you guys
were talking.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, I guess you were ducks.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Su ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
And then they all, well not everybody. Joey, Justin and
Chris came back to set. We were shooting the last
what turned out through the last episode of the series,
and they came to visit on set, and so we
were on location and and yeah we were. We had

(31:39):
a nice time, and then they left and we still were.
You know, like I went I went to I don't
even know. I feel like I was on their tour
bus for a little bit or a night or two.
What Yeah, like, yeah, I definitely went to a couple

(31:59):
of the concert. That's also when I realized, oh, people
might like think clueless is cool and you know, I'm interesting,
but whoa, people went absolutely bananas.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I'm sure I've always wanted to see that. You were
like a group friend for a minute. Yeah, so girlfriend, Yeah,
I just coined that is that exactly?

Speaker 3 (32:21):
They were at Staples Center, I think, or one of
the huge venues in LA and I went and I
went early to go hang out with them, So I
must have taken a car, Like I don't even remember
how I got there because I didn't have ubers then,
but I guess a car probably. And I got out
of the car and it was like they just the

(32:43):
fans like swarmed me, and not because it was me,
but because they knew I was going to see them, right,
And I was actually like a little bit scared. They
were crazy, and I just thought, how these guys are
like the Beatles. It was crazy.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I've always wanted to date a rock star or star
or a musician, just a musician.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, I don't know if they are rock stars, but I'm.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
A pop star. Musicians yeah, yeah, I can't fathom, Like
we have one like platform that we know fans recognize
us from. But that's like a whole nother level.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Oh it is when it's you know, in person and
hundreds of thousands of people like screaming and crying for you,
like girls were crying, you know in the audience, like
you know, I mean, it was wild wild.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Have you ever felt that way about seeing someone that
was like a hero to you? Like you we can
wanted to cry.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
I always wanted to meet Prince and I never actually
when I was doing Nino too, and oh and you
guys everybody had security right outside of their trailers on
location right.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Oh, Jenna and I were just talking about this and
Amy like it must have been during a time when
there was like.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
There was something, because I had one too. And yes,
so my security guy, I was playing Prince in my
trailer one day and he opened the no He's like,
you know, I work for Prince and I was like.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Oh, what what what?

Speaker 3 (34:29):
And he said to me, he kind of like burst
my bubble. He said, He's like, Prince would really like you,
but I don't think that you He's like, you don't
want to know him. He sort of like made it
seem like he was creepy or something. But I just
would was like not hearing that. I would have loved.
I did when he was doing those those final sort

(34:51):
of what turned out to be final ish concerts in
La Yeah, I did, and he was having people come
on stage and dance with him. I did to get
to go on stage and dance with him briefly, but
I never I want to like hang out with him,
you know. I want to like play ping pong with
him or like, you know, shoot the breeze.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Oh my gosh, I'm picturing you and Prince playing ping pong.
I don't know, I'm not sure. So during the same
time that I was friends with Alicia, I was also
friends with Carmen Electra.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Ah right, I bet she has some.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
So I heard some great stories. I heard really good
stuff though, Oh good. She adored him happy, like yeah,
creatively and stead. He was just like the kindest, actually
really amazing stuff that she didn't have to say because
I wasn't telling anyone except from telling meThe now. But
you know what I mean, it was all good stuff.
I never heard anything that goadive. I remember when I

(35:49):
was a kid, I was at Chasin's and Apollonia was there.
Oh wow, I know, I was.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
That's a star sighting.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
That's like a she.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
I mean that whole movie that time period. I snuck
all of my friends into see Purple Rain when because
it came out. I think when I was in eighth grade,
I want to say, or seventh grade, sometime around then
when we couldn't we weren't old enough to go. We
weren't enough to go. So we'd like coerced. I coerced

(36:22):
one grown up to buy an R rated ticket and
then we all got PG tickets or must have been
two because then I would go into the movie with
somebody chade out the you know, yeah off the thing
and we all went.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
In and I did the same thing you did, yes,
or purple rain, No, just in general. It must have
been because yeah, it wasn't allowed to go out like
to Westwood was the area you could walk around if
there was one parent, right, So I'm not sure, but yeah,
after that, like we started doing that.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Yeah, I mean it's a pretty it's pretty solid system
that until they figured it out, but you know, it
was a good way to There was a whole row,
like whole row of us, and I was really the
one driving the train. I was the one that was
super into prints, like much more so than my friends.
But I would like have them over. We'd go in

(37:16):
the basement and I would like sing Prince songs where they.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Were all sort of my gosh, favorite print song mine.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
The beautiful ones, the beautiful ones.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Sure way, I'm like a raspberry worry girl.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, I mean that's also they're all they're all amazing.
I uh, yeah, I have like dreams about Prince.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
He's like, I feel, really, what does he do in
your dreams?

Speaker 3 (37:41):
He sometimes he leads me around like shows me things,
and other times he's been like, my it's like he's
like my creative spiritual guide. I mean, it sounds crazy, but.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
No it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
It is.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
And then sometimes like he'll whisper. In one dream he
whispered into my ear and he just said, you have
to do it, like you have to be you like
these things where I was like I woke up feeling
like wait a second, did this happen? This is you know,
after he's passed. Right, anyway, I'm going to go with
that that he's my my guide in the.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
After kind lucky right, Yeah, my god, where where's mine?
I want someone iconic? Oh my god, I believe it.
Wait are they Are they going to do a reboot
of Clueless?

Speaker 3 (38:37):
So at the Academy events, some of the press where
they were asking that question and Amy there there is
a TV series they have not Amy said, we don't
know what it's going to be. We have no comment,
like I have to say nothing about it. And then
they tried to ask Alicia as if he wasn't sitting next.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Let me just go down the line. Maybe one of them.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yeah, And she said the same thing like, we don't know.
I'm going to be happy with whatever we do. So
I think they really haven't decided kind of what the
storyline will be, or they're just not saying, I don't know,
I have to do something. I love it. I hope
Amber is in it.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
What is the weirdest DM you have ever gotten? Someone
slid into your d MS regarding you or regarding your
character Amber.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
I received a photograph of a tattoo on a man's
arm that was of me as as Amber with the
headband and the bangs and the black thing like all

(39:58):
of it. And I think that's probably the worst. I mean,
it was a full tattoo, like I'm not talking like
a presslot, you know, like like a real.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Tut Oh, I understand. Was it well done? Was it
good artwork?

Speaker 3 (40:15):
It looked like me? It really did. And so I
showed it to my husband and he was like, do
we have to do something about this? Should we be concerned?
And that is that I don't think.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
I don't know, And that was it. He just wanted
you to see it. Yep.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Just like, look at how look at how awesome this is?
And I felt like, I mean it is a great likeness.
It really did look like me.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Well that's a great honor. I mean it could have
been creepier. It could have been like on.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
His ass, true, this is true things respectable place. It
was on the bicep, so it.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Was someone must have gotten a tattoo of flying at
my nose. I mean, someone's done.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
I sure, I'm sure does somebody.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
If anyone knows anyone and I look around to the heaven,
anyone talking to you listeners? Let us know.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Do you read all of the I had some of it?

Speaker 2 (41:17):
You know.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
I am just realizing that there are the areas of
messages in Instagram because I'm like living under a rock.
The one you sort of like don't want to look
at because it's all it's just like straight up porn.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Oh cool, How do I find that? Guys?

Speaker 3 (41:36):
It's like the the I don't know the one, what's
what are the headings? It's like you're general or primary general?

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Okay, go on your Instagram right now.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
The other one.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
And I just had a request looking in there, and
I was like, oh dear God, I need to stay
out of there, tell me one thing, one thing, and
then hidden requests hidden, I don't know, I have to.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
I delete them like every like every day like dick
pics like super obscene. I haven't opened, but like why
not me? Like I don't know why am I getting them?
Why am I getting them?

Speaker 2 (42:19):
So it's so unlucky.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Yeah, see here we go, it's in I feel it's
in message requests, all this crazy, see all this crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
It's all crazy. Wait I have them here. No one
person's crazy.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
It's all. I will show you this if you you know,
like I mean, it's very wacko. Let's see. And there's one.
I'm very lonely. I don't I'm not cooking out any photos.
I don't want any more of this, but literally it uses,
but now I just delete them every one time.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Did I get the hidden like blurred picture and I
didn't know and I clicked it and oh dear god,
like it was massive.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Yeah, it's like a learning.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
My kids, like mom, why would you click on it?
Do you know how much stuff you're going to get?

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Now?

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Like you're you gonna get spam? Like yeah, it was
I know that's.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
What I'm so I've stopped doing it now and I
do have less, but there's still you know, significant amount
in there.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Oh my gosh. What would Amber be like in a
porn Oh? Really ask the same questions everyone was asked you.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
I think really demanding. She would have a lot.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
She would be a dom.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yes for sure, and then she would be very.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Like, can't listen to this episode? Can she?

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Yeah, very difficult to please. I think would be the
general vibe.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Huh. But what's the soft side of her?

Speaker 3 (43:56):
So, you know, I do think she really just she
just wants to be liked. She just wants to fit in.
She wants to be you know, yes, she wants to
be kind of cooler than everyone else, but she wants
to be loved. That she just like tries so hard.
You know, it's like she has flies to Paris for

(44:21):
fashion week, takes it right off the runway, where is
it to English class because she thinks, you know, that's
going to get the attention of Share and everyone else,
and then you know, kind of doesn't always work out
for her.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
I know what, you were so vulnerable in that movie, though. Yeah,
there's so many times that a character like Amber could
be played depending on the actor that is cast portrayed
a very different way, and I just remember the first
time watching it and just all the fields from your character,

(44:58):
like oh my god, that character, like oh my god,
that character, like you know, oh, that's so nice, which
is why I think your character still resonates so much
with people.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
But I think it's like you have to have all
as a person. I don't know, I feel like because
I generally, my truly my personality is like I I
want to be kind, I want to be nice to
people like that That's how who I am. And I
think that helps play more kind of edgy, spiky characters

(45:31):
because it makes it not one note, you know, or
it feels like, oh, you feel some sort of kindness
underneath this. Maybe I don't know, but I because I've
played a lot like Sabrina, I pretty much play nine
on two and O like say, I, you know, have
not played the nicest of people.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
I make it's likable because you cannot be likable. Oh yeah,
you were talking before about you know, such a unique
situation and such a blessing to have been a part
of Clueless, But not many people can say like you

(46:15):
were such a part of so many iconic things clueless
to bring to the teenage, which like it's just like,
oh my god, it is like you're the girl.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
I think that's the other thing that when I was saying,
you know, I started to really embody a week ago
that this one, right, that how impactful clueless was. I
also simultaneously kind of realized, oh wow, this is unusual,
Like I'm really fortunate to have been a part of

(46:51):
so many things that have made such an impact. I mean,
that's like doing nineties con that that year I went,
this is like going back to college or something. I've
worked with almost every person in this room, right, I
was like it was so bizarre, and I just feel
like I do feel really lucky in that way. I

(47:12):
feel very fortunate. And so you know, when I I
think it's important to really have as an adult a
proper relationship with our past, right, no matter what you do,
as you know, it's like growing up and moving through
whatever challenges you have and finding gratitude and learning and

(47:35):
becoming a deeper, bigger person and all of that. And
it just is it's the same thing of being in
the public eye. You know, if we don't kind of
embody and embrace what has happened and what we've been
given and deprived of at the same time. You know,
we can't. You can't. You can't have a happy life,

(47:59):
you know if I so, I feel really grateful for
all of it. I do, and it's been you know, sure,
I've had some bad experiences, but for the most part,
all of those experiences have been so wonderful. Like all
of you walking into nine o two and zero, you
guys could have been real, you could have been just
like not given me the time of day, and everybody

(48:21):
was because you'd all been together for so long. The
show is so successful. It's like plug and play. You
don't have to like welcome a new person, you know,
you just don't. And all of you were so kind
to me, and I laughed so much and I had
such a good time and very welcoming. And the same
with Sabrina. I mean, Melissa is like she's like a unicorn.

(48:43):
She is so normal and I say that in like
the best way, right, like un affected and she and
she completely grew up in the business and she's so generous,
super kind, works her tail off, she works so hard,
and you know that's not I don't. I feel like

(49:06):
that's not normal either, So I feel like I've gotten
really lucky in that regard.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah, I was on Stave by the Bell. Well, I
had done True Beverly Hills, the movie of Shelley Long,
I had done Saved by the Bell. So when I
started on nine O two and oh, I had been
through experiences where.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Wait by the Bell with Tiffany I did were there
two Oh? I didn't know that. So you guys already
knew each other.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
We did, Yeah, since we were fourteen. I think I
started that, but I was Screeched's first girlfriend, and I
actually was recurrying. And then it started to cross over
when nine on two and O started and I went
as a regular in nine. But that's where I really
learned the importance of how you treat others on a set,

(49:58):
because it's not easy coming into a group almost like
a click, and you know you're there to do your
craft and your work and you want to do the
best job. But it's so much easier if there's acceptance
and kindness and yes. And so I had some experiences
that weren't the best and some that were great. But

(50:21):
I really came into nine on two and zero leading
with compassion for anyone that came on as a new member.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
It is so like it means so much to the
people coming in. And so then that's how I learned
to do the same. When I we did the series
of Pulis as a series, I was very consciously kind
to people and welcoming them in and doing that because
it's hard. It's hard to be the new guy and

(50:47):
you're only there for a short period, you know, it's
just hard to come into those situations. And then I
did the same with Sabrina when even though I was
the new person, but then we were there for three years,
you know, so it's like there's just no time for that.
Like the egos, the like any I will say this,

(51:12):
I think that I've always believed this, and I'm not
going to name names, but when people are unkind and
they are like ego driven and have bad attitudes and
are cruel or however you want to characterize it, it
comes back to haunt them. And I think, so I do,

(51:33):
I do, and it doesn't It will always come out
in the end, and those things never wouldn't We still
hold those people having very difficult personal lives having lose it.
There are a lot of ways that the universe pays

(51:56):
pays it back, and I think it is and because
when it's happening, I have had this experience of someone
who who I worked with who was wildly unkind to me,
like very very cruel and then in a public way
and did like was really terrible, and that person is

(52:20):
and in the moment when it's happening, it's devastating, right,
It's like it feels like, oh my god, I gotta
fix this, I gotta fix this. And I didn't do
like how a little, you know, and I was like crying,
and you know what, there is first of all, no
fixing it in the moment because it's totally out of
my control. Over time, now that person is not in
a good place and I had nothing to do with that.

(52:41):
You know, I'm not wishing them ill. I just don't
want any part of it. And sometimes it takes a
long time for that that to right itself, but it
always does. So I just yeah, that's what I'll say.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Okay, I'll hold you to that, because yeah, not all
of my experiences, I'm like a person still like everyone
loves them, everyone does like why like they're not kind?

Speaker 3 (53:13):
But you know what, it's the behind the scenes things
could be going very sideways for that person, or it
is down the line it's going to go you know,
I just and nothing it has that that is I
don't know, you know, that doesn't have to happen, but
it has been my experience that I have seen that

(53:33):
that you know, the best revenge is living well, as
they say, right, so it's like, keep your life in
a way that is meaningful and enjoyable and genuine, and
then they can't you know, nobody can touch you.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Agreed, agreed. So do Scarlett's friends like see all the memes,
the clips on TikTok of you and like.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
So they we have like a strict no social media
policy in our paths for her.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
So she's seen at school at all, but she.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Some of her friends on text strings and things have
it and they will you know, yes they do. So
they had all seen things before Scarlett did. I only
she only saw Clueless maybe six months ago. No, everybody,
all of her friend she goes to an all girls' school,
and almost all of her friends had seen it and

(54:34):
they were and so she started to feel left out
and weird, and you know, so she I let her
watch it and my husband hadn't seen it either, for
the record, so they watched it together.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
What is happening right now? What do you mean your
husband has never seen clues? He's just that's a story.
He's told you.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
The only thing did I tell you?

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Guys?

Speaker 3 (54:53):
This when we when we uh talked in December.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
He's all, anything, Well, we met.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
We met in Mexico on the beach on vacation with vents.
A whole long story. This night we were talking for
like how he was like, oh, so, what do you do?
And I said, oh, I work in entertainment and he
said well, like in what capacity?

Speaker 2 (55:16):
What do you do?

Speaker 3 (55:17):
And I said I am an actress? And he's like, oh,
anything that I've seen And I said I don't know maybe,
and then he's like, well, like tell me and I said, well,
the movie Clueless and he said, oh yeah, I never
saw that and I was like, oh, okay, this is
a tail. Yeah he said, he said anything else that

(55:39):
I would have seen, and I said, well the show
Sabrina the Teenage Witch. But the Witch. He's like, oh, yeah,
I know I never saw that. And I was like okay. Well.
Night at the Roxbury the Saturn Night Live guy oh, yeah, No,
I didn't see that. I'm like going on. And then
at this point I'm like, uh, hey, guy, like I
have a pretty no hell, and then I said, well,

(56:05):
I did nine O two and oh the original nine
O two one oh, and he goes, oh, no, hinjure
la monica. He knew, I promise you. He's like, oh
my god, you're ginger. And I was like nine on
two and oh always nine two and he and then
it turns out he and his friends in college had

(56:28):
a cast photo of you guys and they would have
like do the drinking game or whatever, and somebody would
like pas, I forget what the game was with the photo,
but it would always wind up at someone else's, you know,
house or something. So when we really started dating and
I went to San Francisco for the first time, he
had the picture and I was like, oh, no, is

(56:50):
this he dared. I'm like, is this getting like real
strange now? And then he's laughing and then I met
you know, as it turns out, they're all very normal people.
But I was like, oh, it was nine and that
was the only thing that he had seen.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
God, I want to believe this story, but how many
like oh, god, like before your husband, even like you
wouldn't meet guys and they're always like, oh yeah, what
do you do after? But you just feel guilty, But
you're like, why am I guilty? You feel like embarrassed, yeah, anything,
and then you have to tell them and you're like
you feel like what I do?

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Like my run down just I was at Lax the
other day and this woman comes up to me and
she's like, are you a real housewife? And I was like, no,
I'm not. And she's like, you're so glamorous. Well what
do I know you from? And I was laughing like, oh,
I'm so glamorous, Like keep talking? What did she say?

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Glamorous? Wait? If Amber, though were a real housewife, which
one would she be?

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Oh gosh, I don't know what are they? I don't know.
I don't, I don't and I should Yeah, I don't
know anything. She would definitely be the one. I do
believe Amber today would be running her own fashion line.
I think that is definitely what she would be doing.
She and then is debatable whether she's like either married

(58:16):
to a super wealthy guy and like driving him crazy
or she has no she's doing it all on her
own and has no like, doesn't have a partner at all,
and just as kicking ass everywhere interesting.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
She has her own fashion line. Hello, mmm mm hmmm,
uh huh should I yes, maybe I should?

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Oh my god, that's right, I probably should. I do
have like my own unique This is also what's.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Fun guy to call it as if? I mean, I
know your character didn't say that, but like still whatever, yeah,
what I.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Should write? I mean, I do have my own sense
of fashion that I think is very unique. And sometimes
it's like spot on and sometimes it's a little like hmm,
And I think that's okay. I think that's also Amber.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Yeah, I feel like it should be Amber inspired though. Wait,
we just created a great idea.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
I think this is a great idea.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I do. I do think it's a great idea. Now
is the time to strike. It's all nineties, Yes it is. Yeah,
it's our time.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Anniversary. It is time to do it.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Also at the anniversary, you have to anniversary. There you go.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
I listened to the episode with Ryder.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
I have a great idea. I'm gonna tell you off podcast.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Great, let's do it. I also want to do that
nineties horror.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Will you be in it? I was just thinking, oh my.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
God, it's all about First of all, Clue is like
my favorite.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Movie of all time, one of my favorites.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Out is one of my favorite new movies of all time.
So I think and Agatha Christie those movies I try
to get my daughter to watch. I remember reading those
books when I was younger, and one of the movies
that I loved, I feel like it was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
And then there were none, and then there were none.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
It was so scary.

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
I remember feeling like, wait a second, how am I
going to ever survive if I get on an island
by myself with people in a scary house, you know,
and my mom being like, well, you have to like actually.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Get like you're not that's not happening to you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
And I was like, very isn't it crazy? That was
like the og Like, yes, there were two titles for
the book, but the one well known for the novel
was and then there were none. But it was a
story of started with ten people and then one by
one they were killed off and that's hello, that's a
storyline for every horse.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
I think it is so totally and it would be amazing.
And then deciding who is the person, like who's the one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
I don't know, yeah, because it would be like a
main character energy because technically none of our characters were
the main character, but yet ultimately in life we really are.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Yes? No, yes, it does.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Like that while you were one of the leads, like
you weren't yet, like you know, you weren't share like
it's yep, you know, and when the show started it
was like Brenda and Kelly like it wasn't Donna. And
then you know with writer like it's just he always said,
I think that's great. I mean, every girl crushed on him,
but he wasn't like technical lead the show.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
That's the whole. I think that is a key component
of the storyline, that it's all the you know whatever
you would call us, the the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
What would what do we be called?

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Look, we now bitch. It's like everyone was like she's
still standing, like still iconic.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Do we call it number three on the call sheet?

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
I think I was. I think I was number sun
Or is it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Three to seven? Between three and seven?

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Oh gosh, whoa wife. It's a great idea, it is.
I it's that call sheet common out because I'm used
in the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Uh huh, there could be so many times.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
I mean, there's so many layers, so many layers. Oh
my gosh. Oh, I'm so glad you were into it
because I was just thinking this morning, like, oh my god,
should be perfect. I'd love to do this. Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
I mean I think it would be great. And I
just for the first time did which I'm not really
supposed to talk about, but I'm not going to be specific.
So it's fine. This spec series that's like Ryan Murphy
esque horror thing that I just did, and let me
tell you, it was so fun. It was really, really,

(01:02:48):
really fun. So and you met Ryan Murphy or anything
like that. No, I've never met Ryan Murphy, have you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
No? No, I feel like we're his jam. I'm like iconic,
like he loves like eighties and nineties stars and pops
them into all different fun roles and it's.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
Like, let's put it out there, Hi, mister Murphy. Hello,
here we are.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Yes, Hi, Ryan Murphy.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
I'll do whatever. I love these ideas. I think we
for many many possibilities.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
I know, look at us in our second chapter.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
That's right, that's right. It's shaking your head like this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
So no, no, I.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Know, it's so much better now because I feel like
more at ease with myself. I feel more able to
access my creativity, my life. I'm more confident. It's just
like it just feels better.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
It's definitely. Yeah, the confidence thing, it's all getting better
than it was back then.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
I of talking with you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
I've love you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
I love you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
I know I could talk to you all day because
I could talk about anything, and there's so much more
we'll have to talk.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Well, we now have like four businesses that were starting.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
So that's great. I mean the ones that are yours,
that are yours like, but I'm happy to offer ideas. Yeah,
I love it, fun, fun puns. Okay, I love you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
I love you. Have a beautiful rest of your day.
And I hope I get to see you soon.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
I know me too. Oh maybe I'll come to San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Yes, come, that would be so fun.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
I know I've been wanting to for a couple of years.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Okay, Yeah, we're.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Gonna make it happen. Manifesting so much, so much.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
I love you all right, I love you.