June 2, 2025 • 32 mins
Tori discusses growing up in the public eye and being conditioned to wear a lot of makeup her whole life and how a convo with boy bestie Brian Austin Green recently changed her view.
She reflects on how her appearance was picked apart early on, and how makeup became a kind of beauty mask. She’s embracing the less makeup look, but feels conflicted by what she sees on social media and the fact that she loves doing her makeup.
She also revisits the tabloid sTORIes that accused her of plastic surgery at just 17 — headlines that have followed her ever since.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Misspelling with Tory spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi you guys,
So I have a Tory story for you. Actually, my
boy Bessie, Brian Austin Green told me that I need
to tell this story, and he told me this is
my next toy story, so I'm going with it. So
this past weekend, Brian and I went to New York
(00:33):
on this top secret mission thing that's happening that I
can't talk about. That we had to sign all kinds
of NDAs and it's something really really cool and really
really special. So it kind of happened out of nowhere
and it's really awesome and you guys are gonna love
it and I can't wait to share it with you anyway. Okay,
bean gave me energy. Okay, I love work. Anyway. Ruthanne
(00:56):
and I flew from LA to New York. We've been
traveling all day and everything happened so fast. I was
like it was like one of those things like pack
a bag, get on the plane, and go. So I
actually didn't have any makeup on, and I had my
sunglasses and I had a beanie on. I was in
(01:16):
my sweats and we got to the hotel late at
night and Brian and his manager Tracy had gotten in
and they were like, oh, you know, we're at the
bar if you guys want to join us. And I
literally said to Ruthan like, oh my god, no, I
can't see Brian right now. I don't have makeup on.
Did I not say this, Ruthman, you totally said it.
I did.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I understood, not because I thought you didn't look amazing,
but I understand that feeling a female.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, there's a lot of things as women that I
think we you know, my god, boys are so lucky.
But I actually have always loved the fact that, you know,
we do get to put on makeup, and we do
get to adjust how we appear to others physically, at
least I thought I did. So anyway, we check in
(02:04):
and I was like, oh my gosh, I don't know,
just tell them we're tired, and I just we're shooting
early in the morning, and all of a sudden, as
we go to the Elvare, I'm like, oh my god,
they're right there, and I'm like, okay, I want to
see Brian and Tracy. Anyway, so we go over and
it was it was one of those things that everything
happens for a reason. So we go over and we're
(02:24):
all like, you know, talking, and we're having a drink
and Brian and I decide to go to the bar.
So we go to the bar to get everyone another
round of drinks. And we were just having like one
or two drinks and then going to bed, and he
says to me at the bar, do you know I'm
not this isn't for batim, but basically, do you know
how pretty look with less makeup? And that tanks me
(02:48):
and I was like, oh my god, I knew this
was going to happen. And I turned into that sixteen
year old girl around Brian Green again, and I was like,
I'm not kidding. I told Ruth and I didn't want
to see you tonight because I don't have makeup on.
And he's like that's ridiculous. He goes, you look so
beautiful with less makeup, and he's such a good man, like,
you know, he chose his words carefully, not no makeup,
(03:09):
he said, with less makeup. So I was like, gosh,
I don't know, I don't see it. So we got
into this conversation about he said, you know, not only
do you look prettier, because we could see your face like,
but you look younger, and it became this whole thing.
We then got back to the table. Did we start
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talking to you guys about it when we got back
to the table.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yes, and Tracy and I concurred with Brian, but you
would never hear it from certainly you wouldn't hear it
from me.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Maybe a little bit from Tracy, but more so. And
what I ended up saying, and I don't know if
this is at the bar when we came back to
the table, was that I don't know, I feel like
I've been so conditioned my whole life being in the
public eye and having your looks just torn apart from
a young age. I mean literally, not literally like like
(04:04):
I don't know the moment it was, the exact moment.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I know.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
It was when I was seventeen and the Globe magazine
which doesn't even exist, but a tabloid, this is when
there were paper tabloids, came out with a story. It
was like, you know, the Inquirer, the Globe was like
it was a big one and nine, O two and
zero was in the Tayday. I was seventeen, though, you know,
it's like the second season. Itd just blown up and
(04:29):
all these pictures of me, saying Tory Spelling has had
all this plastic surgery. I was like seventeen, Like I
had my nose done at sixteen, but like you know,
it's it. Keep in mind, you guys, this is the nineties,
not today, when you know there's so much available and
people do botox and they do all different things, starting young.
And it said a source says. They always say a
(04:50):
source says, which means no one really said it, but
possibly they showed pictures of me when I was like nine,
or when I was like twelve, and it says people
that went to high school with her knew her, and
elementary so she looks completely different. And it went on
to say things like I had had cheecken plants and
a chinen plant and ribs removed. It was the wildest thing.
(05:14):
And I'm looking at these pictures and I'm a seventeen
year old girl, and I had just gotten it from
the news stand, which doesn't really exist anymore in Westwood,
and I was driving back home. We had just moved
into the manor, so I was driving home and I
remember pulling into my parents' driveway and I called my dad.
He was at work, and I was in tears, and
(05:36):
I was like, oh my god, I don't know what
I'm seeing. But they're saying I've had all this plastic
surgery and like I've had nothing done. And my dad
was like, always the eternal optimist. He was like, Babe,
when they're talking about you, it's good press is press
bad or good, and they'll move on to someone else
next week. And I was like, okay, okay, let me
(05:59):
try to think of it that way. But it was
devastating because I want it to be like, first of all,
I look completely different. Was something wrong with me before?
You know, we have those like weird moments we go
through in life, like your formative years and you're like
a tween, like you know, I had like baby fat cheeks,
and you know, now my face was thinning out. But
(06:20):
I hadn't had cheek and plants, I hadn't had my
chin redone, and I certainly hadn't had ribs removed. I
was like, oh my gosh, how do you even do that?
Like I'd always had a thin frame my dad and mom.
My dad was then my mom is thin, Like I
had not even thought about dieting or anything. But I'll
(06:40):
never forget that day because my dad said, don't worry,
they'll be on to someone else next week. But that
never went away, that story. And I know we're talking
about Brian and him saying I should wear less makeup,
but this is where it started, with me thinking I
needed to wear makeup. So I have to go back
to the beginning. But I was seventeen and the press
never let that go. I am fifty two right now,
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and if you look up any comments about me, not
just from the press, like fans read into it, people
like my very existence is tory spelling. I remember I'd
read stuff when Michael Jackson was still alive, like the
only other person that's had more plastic surgery than Michael
Jackson is tory spelling it Like that one tabloid's story
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stayed with me my entire life, and you know what,
it fucked me up, like it. Not only was I
like thrust into like stardom at an early age, living
out my bad moments good moments on TV for the world,
but I was a seventeen year old girl that didn't
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think I looked bad. I didn't think I looked that bad.
I definitely had had my nose done, which you know,
at sixteen. Nowadays, I think that's way too young. But
back in the day, it was a it was a thing.
You know, when you turned sixteen, you know, disgussed it
with your parents and you got yours done. And other
than that, though I don't know, I was just like,
oh my god, I must be like a troll. I
(08:06):
must be the ugliest human alive if they think I've
had to have all this stuff to even be where
I am now. And then the comments just kept going.
And as much as I say I have thick skin, like,
it really stayed with me my whole life, to the
point where people still say on comments on my Instagram,
I post something like, oh my gosh, lay off the filler,
(08:29):
lay off the bowtox. Stop getting so much plastic surgery.
And I'm not supposed to interact with people saying, you know,
mean things. I'm sped to just take it on the chin, right,
But I haven't had my chin done. I don't have
filler like I have no filler in my face, you
guys like I've had botox. So I went the other direction.
I feel I at fifty two, I look at all
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this stuff on social media. I see women my age
that have had lasers done, they've had you know, they've
had lower face lifts, they've had things done. I've had
nothing done because I'm so terrified of what people will
say because they already say I had stuff done that
I haven't had done. So I'm like super careful. Like
when I get my boatox and I do I get botox,
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I'm always like, don't do too much. People think I've
had something else done. Like it has really messed me
up of how I perceive myself. And I think makeup
plays into that because I always thought, gosh, I must
be unattractive, and in order to be attractive, what does
(09:35):
a female do? Oh, we have that choice. We can
add makeup, we can put on a quote unquote beauty mask. Right.
So I always wore a lot of makeup, and you
know now that, especially in the last year, the whole
you know, Pamela Anderson and the whole no makeup look
is back in. That messed me up too, because I
(09:56):
was like, oh my god, I'm trying to change with
the times. I don't even feel comfortable wearing, you know,
less meat. So yeah, that's where that started and Brian
said you should try it, and he's like, you should
try wearing less makeup, and I was like, I don't know.
I don't know where I would start. First of all,
I actually love makeup the application. I feel like I'm
(10:16):
really good at it. And it's so it is an
expression on one hand, like I get my nails done
and I get, you know, crazy nails. Sometimes I'm like,
that's me expressing myself. So I do do like good
eye makeup, and when I do a lot of eye makeup,
I'm expressing myself. But that's not completely true. After we talked,
(10:37):
I was like, no, I'm hiding myself. So's it's both
at the same time. And we were about to do
this big thing and I was like, oh my gosh,
really and he said, well, you know, maybe just don't
do everything at once, like do like if you're married
to doing a lot of eyes, do less foundation. I
(10:58):
was like, but my skin, and my skin is terrible,
and he's like, your skin is great, and I'm like,
oh my god, I'm so confused, Like I don't know
what I'm looking at when I look in the mirror
that I'm seeing things that other people don't see, and
I trust Brian with my life, so if someone randomly
tells me this, and of course, you know, I'm thinking
(11:19):
that whole thing, like, oh, men always say they like
women with less makeup, So I'm like, are you sure
it's not just that guy thing, because I've heard this before.
I've heard it from my ex husband, I've heard it
from the guys i've been with, like you look so
pretty with no makeup, and I'm like, they don't mean it.
He's like, no, you really do. So long story short,
(11:43):
we did this big, top secret thing the next day,
and I definitely came into it with the mindset of
you know, me go you know, go big or go home.
So I wasn't like, let me try this out on
an Instagram photo. I chose to choose like this huge
project to be like, I'm gonna were less makeup. So
I did, and Brian and I were on set and
(12:03):
I was like so, and he's like, you look beautiful.
You wore less makeup and you look so good. And
I was like, he goes, how does it feel? And
I go, I actually feel pretty good? And I noticed
the podcast so you can only see the social clips,
but I'm literally wearing basically no makeup today. Wow, it
really helps my schedule because I can get so much
(12:24):
more done if I don't have to take like thirty
months in my makeup. But I really did like how
I looked, and it just like But then we came
back from this project and I was on Instagram and
I'm seeing all these people with you know, the majorly
defined eyebrows and the eye makeup, and I'm like, oh,
but isn't that the look that looks better on me?
(12:46):
And anyway, I'm talking to you guys about it because
I'm a little confused. So it's I'm in the moment
of going through this process and I thought, well, I
tell you guys everything. I'm an open book now, an
open face with no makeup. But it's so I don't
know him, and where did I land on that. I
don't know, to be honest, but I think it's an
important conversation, not just for me, like it's a conversation
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all women. Chef my sixteen year old daughter, she gets
up an hour and a half before school every day
to do her makeup. She does amazing makeup, like the
most gorgeous eyes, and for her, I get it because
she's very creative and part of her she's like, I'm
not sure do I want to do I want to
be a baker, Do I want to be a makeup artist?
(13:30):
Like she has so many different things, a fashion design,
She's so good at everything that I tell her. I
remember we we had to go somewhere recently and she's like,
I don't know any makeup on. And I was like,
you look beautiful without makeup. And I heard myself, this
is before Brian told me the other day, this is
like two weeks ago. And I heard myself saying what
I have been told before by other people. Don't worry
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about it. You look beautiful without makeup. And I stopped
myself and I said, I get it though, because I do.
Does she look gorgeous with not a stitch of makeup? Unbelievable.
She's also sixteen, Like it's harder for me at fifty
two to rationalize now being like, no, I'm not going
to wear makeup. But I get it. It's a real
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thing once it's in your head. And we have social media,
like we see all this stuff where like it's a
tough thing and it's like to makeup or not makeup?
What is the answer, And I don't know. I'm not sure,
and I'm not sure if I look in the mirror
and I'm like, oh, I look younger without makeup, I'm
not sure I see what Brian sees. But I definitely
(14:38):
there's something to it. And I wonder at fifty two, like,
can I readjust my brain to actually see something that
I haven't seen all these years, something that's part of me?
And is that part of self growth and loving yourself?
I don't know. I'm posing all these questions that I
don't have answers to because it's happening in the moment
right now. Brian's gonna be so proud I did this
(15:00):
podcast with no makeup today. But here I am, and like,
I guarantee you guys, if I put a picture of
myself on social today with no makeup, people will still
be like, look at all the plastic surgery she's had done.
People will listen to this podcast and will hear me
(15:20):
say the words I have not had all this work
done that I'm like supposedly had all these years, and
they will still choose to believe an article that came
out when I was seventeen years old. It's just like
this thing that has stayed with me my entire life.
I wish I could shed it, Like I'm sure one
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day I'll want to have something done in my face,
and I don't want to be scared not to because
I'm scared what people are going to think because they
already think it, Or do I just do it because
they already assume I've done it? Anyway, I don't know,
it's such an odd thing, what an odd conversation.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
No, Yeah, I think I think most women grapple with this.
You know, in a perfect world, the rule would be
you do what makes you feel good about you, not
because you're responding to negative feedback if you don't, or
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even negative feedback in your head.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
But that's easier said than done. You know, it'd be
great if every time somebody said, oh, you look great
without makeup, or you look you know, you look young,
or whatever, we believed it. I mean, I think the
problem is more what goes on inside our heads as
opposed to what the external is saying. And that's work
(16:41):
everybody has to do on themselves.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, it's really hard in a world where we're shown
to extremes right now, right like there's people that were
a lot of makeup, Like not that they don't look great,
but like the Kardashians set a whole trend with makeup,
you know, with that that look, you know, and it
was definitely major makeup, defined contouring eyes, and you know what,
(17:09):
Sometimes when I watch their show and there's some scenes
where they have no makeup on They've just spontaneously done it,
I'm like, I say the same thing. I'm like, Kim
looks so pretty with no makeup, and I'm like thinking,
in my head, oh my god, this is the age
old thing, Like what is it? So it's either you
wear all that makeup and you look great, or now
you wear no makeup and you're just like this is me,
(17:30):
you know, and this is my age. And so what's
the in between? I don't know. And we're always depending
on society to tell us like, oh, this is in
right now. So I don't know, no makeup's in right now,
but like in a year, it might be something completely different.
So I understand you're supposed to do what works best
for you, but it's really hard, I think in life.
(17:52):
I'm not just saying because I'm in the public eye, Like, no,
I am saying because I'm in the public eye. I
want to apologize for a second. Sorry, like how I
tried to do that, Like it's not about me, No,
it is. It's much harder having been in people's living room,
you know, since I was a teenager. Now I do
a rewatch, you know, watching myself back as a teenager, thinking,
(18:15):
I do think when I watched nine o two one,
oh and Jenny and Amy, and I watch it back
on nine O two one. OMG, I do watch Donna
through a different lens now, and I definitely am able
to see now because I know then I used to
cry in the makeup chair. I used to cry. And
I remember my makeup artist, Nick I had a male,
a straight male makeup artist that was very and back then,
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and he was married with kids, and I would just
be hysterically crying. I had some bad boyfriend that told
me I was ugly. I'm working with these gorgeous women.
That article had come out saying, oh, she's ugly and
she's had all this plastic surgery. And I'm sitting here
on this huge TV show and I would just cry
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and cry all my makeup off and he'd have to
put it back on, and I remember him saying, You're
you're going to fall in love with yourself more as
you get older. You're such a beautiful girl, and you're
only going to age even better, and you're gonna look
at yourself. He would say, like thirty years around and
be like, oh my gosh, and feel comfortable with yourself.
(19:21):
And here I am, you know, thirty plus years later,
and I'm still not comfortable with myself. But I am
able to watch Donna back and know the heartache I
went through feeling like I had to keep up with
the other girls, feeling like I had to look as
pretty as them or maybe I wouldn't be light. And
it was really hard for a young girl, where you know,
(19:41):
I'm watching my daughter the same age, and they're worried
about how they look, but they're worried about how their
friends at school look. I had to worry about the
way millions perceived me and didn't perceive me, and it
was a hard thing. But I watched Donna now and
I'm like, you were so pretty. Like I'm able to
separate it and watch the show as a fan. Now,
(20:04):
I'm like, Donna Martin, you're a really pretty girl. Akay,
that's Tory spelling, you were a really pretty girl, and
I wish I don't believe in regrets. Everything's your journey,
but I do wish that I could go back and
tell that girl like, you're pretty, like, don't listen to
what people say, like, and I wish I could make
her love herself then, because it'd be a whole different
(20:26):
ballgame now for me. Yeah, because it's funny. I'll watch
Donna then me as a teenager, me in my early
twenties and be like, oh, you were so pretty, like
you didn't need all that makeup, And I wish I
had loved myself. But I look at Tory now in
the mirror and I'm like, no, I don't see it.
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So I don't know. It's a lot of ketchup work
you have to do. I don't know if you ever
get there. It'd be nice to get there. Oh that'd
be so nice. It'd be so nice to look in
the mirror and be like cool, feeling good up, rock on.
And I have a lot of respect for people that
can do that, and I aim to get there one day. Anyway,
(21:11):
I'm doing this podcast. You'll hear most of it, see
the social clips. But I have to watch myself the
entire time. So I'm literally looking into my computer on
my zoom speaking to myself and I'm sitting here with
no makeup, and I'm like, I'm getting through it. I'm
not like, I, do you have a ringlin Maybe that's
(21:33):
helped me. Maybe I could just take like a personal
ring light through life that like eased me into it.
I wish Brian had been honest today because I'm forgetting
all the good stuff he said to me, because it
made me so nervous having that conversation. And then the
next night we're at dinner and he was like, so,
(21:55):
he's like, you need to tell this story, your tory
story about this because that's so important for you know,
everyone to hear, like the struggles that people go through
with the identity of what they see in the mirror
versus what other people see, and how that's a reflection
of like how you feel inside. And I was like, wow,
that just got real deep for me. He's like, yeah,
(22:15):
and that's okay. Live in that like uncomfortable zone. You
don't always have to be funny. And I was like, yeah,
and that's another thing, like I have made up for
what I perceive not being the prettiest girl, but I'm
the funniest girl, like so I throw out humor with
everything and at that point, you know, at some point
that kind of gets old too, Like it's hard to
(22:38):
sit with yourself, like be vulnerable, and it's an intimate
place and it's wildly uncomfortable. But as a mom of
five kids and two girls, like, I want to get there.
I want to get there so I can support them
as they're like going through these years and putting on
makeup or not putting on makeup or yeah, well for
(23:01):
whatever it's worth you, Yeah, look beautiful today.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
And I know you always say well with Anne, either
you're blind or which.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
She is, She's always think that, but it's true.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
And I think I see you as most people see you.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
So again, it's just about you seeing it in yourself
and personally, I don't think you have to commit to
one thing or the other. You know, there are days
you feel like doing yourself up. You do it.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
There are days you're.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Like, I don't have time.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
And you don't, but hope it's true to the world.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Not feeling horrible about yourself on those days that you don't.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I just wish the world was kinder. Well, we all
wish the world was kinder, but people don't realize the
impact that words have. Like when words are said, you
can't unhear them. If they're in print, you can't unsee them.
And that's why people say, you know, lead by your actions,
not your words. But it's just like it's a tough one.
(24:05):
So you know, like I when I leave the house,
like I want to go to the grocery store, Like
a month ago or two months ago, I went to
the Trader Joe's picking up like food for my kids
to make dinner. And I didn't see them, but some
paparazzi got a picture of me and it was like, ooh,
look at her without makeup, And I was like, fuck, Like,
(24:26):
I'm just trying to live like it's not it's just
a weird, weird fucking world we live in all around.
But it's like and maybe this wouldn't come up for
me as much, but it's it. Definitely. I'm really working
on myself and my growth being now my fifties and
(24:48):
single again, single not married. I was married for you know,
eighteen years, and you know, it was so lost in
my relationship and the identity of being everyone you know,
a mom, a wife, an actress, reality start just making
it all happen that you know. And I've talked about
(25:09):
this a lot, like I don't have me time, I've
lost all that, but like I lost a big chunk
of myself and I'm really trying now to find who
that person is. And it's just in the midst of
trying to find yourself in your fifties, which is not
the age I think we're supposed to be trying to
find ourselves. I mean, there's no age, I guess, but
(25:32):
it's like I definitely like it's it's a tough one.
But I heard Brian's words. I heard them. I couldn't
unhear them, and they impacted me because it wasn't coming
from someone that was just you know, oh, you're an actress,
you're pretty, like you don't need makeup. So someone that
has been my friend and family since I was sixteen
(25:52):
years old, and what he says matters. And I'm kind
of shocked because like my husband would tell me this
over the years and I would be like, I don't
believe you. You're just saying that you're in love with me,
So like you don't. You can't. You can't see what's
really there. But I heard what Brian said, like it
really impacted me on such a deep level. So yeah,
(26:15):
I'm definitely going to keep wearing makeup because I love
doing my eyes like, I love doing that, and I'm
not taking out my extensions. Rod Pick could tell me
I look good without extensions, and I'm not doing that.
I mean maybe for brod pet, I don't know, baby steps.
So yeah, it will be interesting when you guys all
(26:36):
hear this podcast, because I'll go on social media and
can't wait to hear the fun stuff you guys are
going to say. I mean, actually, if you're all listening
to this podcast, you like me and you find me
relatable and I'm part of your world, so thank you.
But it's the others you have to worry about.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Just remember one thing, m look where the globe is
now after speaking unfavorably about you, so lesson there.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I don't think that had anything to do with me. No,
but they just went under eventually.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Well they start because they were, you know, shitting on
young girls, which is just not okay no matter who you.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Are or what you look like. So oh, it's so
interesting you say that because they got no backlash over it.
But you're right, they were talking about an underage girl
in her looks but no one but that's kind of
the media anyway, and no one says anything.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I think there's pushback more and more, you.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Think, I hope, So I don't know. And there's this
there's so much readily available to transform yourself that it's
just hard to be like on that. I don't know,
on the bandwagon of no, no, no, no, this is
me and I'm proud of me. Like that's a tough one.
(27:57):
There's so many viable things that we can transform ourselves
with now. I mean, you and I were talking on
the way back from the airport. That's like on social
media we were seeing like all you know, new plastic
surgery and you know, people in their like seventies and
eighties are looking like they're in their forties. And we
(28:20):
both had a moment We're like, we're screwed, right, And
I was like, how do I get some of that?
But you're right, I know, And I, on the other hand,
was like, and I can never get any of that
because people already say I've had plastic surgery, so I
just have to stay just like this out of fear
that the what they're already saying it, I don't have
time to get plastic surgery.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
But like, well, the crazy thing is, and this just
goes back to the beginning of this is you don't
need it.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You look so much younger than you are.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
You are blessed with amazing genes, you know, and you've
taken care of your skin, and you're a beautiful girl.
Not that you see it, but the truth is, you
have all of that going for you, and you do
look beautiful without makeup, and you look beautiful with makeup.
The challenge is believing believing it for yourself, and that
(29:15):
is just not an easy thing to do.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
No, not like my Instagram, Like my Instagram thinks I
want to see like those masks and like under eye patches.
I don't know why, but they keep putting them on
my for you page and it's very like I buy
into it too. I'm like, oh my gosh, the glass
(29:38):
skin look. I'm like, cool, that looks great. Like I
don't know have not Like I don't do any lasers.
I don't do any of that stuff. This was to
tighten your skin. I don't do it. Like it sounds good,
be nice to have glass skin, Like you don't have
to have plastic surgery, just glass skin. But it's like
it's so they make you believe it. It's it's like it's
(30:01):
like they draw you in, like, oh, I must need that. Wait,
so you're saying I don't have to get like lasers
or plastic surgery. I could just have glass skin with
just a mask I put on for twenty minutes, for
twenty nine ninety five. Wow, and I can get a bogo.
Oh my gosh, yes, I'm in Like it is just wild.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Now. The truth is, we don't know how much of
those images have been done, you know, any of them,
all of them. You have no idea unless you see
somebody in person what it really looks like.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
That's the problem. No one's in today's age, Like nobody
really has to see anybody in person anymore, except if
you're fifty two and single and suddenly you have to
date again. Budge, It's like, wow, that's an interesting concept. Yeah,
But like last week I bought the zombie mask, Like
I shouldn't be buying something that is called the zombie mask,
(31:05):
Like that's not good for my self esteem and I
was like, what is this new trend, the zombie mask? Oh,
Kardashians wore it, Click Apple Pay, I'm in and I
bought it. I'll tell you what it's like when it
gets here. I have no idea. And you know, I
tried that snail secretion mask. That was pretty good, though.
That scared me. It like hydrated my skin though, like
(31:27):
it did it did? It felt hydrated. Oh boy, you guys.
It just scares me because I'm like, what is it
going to be like for my kids, my six year
old and my thirteen year old when they're in their
forties and fifties, Like I can't even imagine, Like look
at Ai now, Like what we can do. We will
(31:48):
never have to worry about any of this. Maybe it'll
be a button in your face, will just be a
computerized version of yourself at sixteen when you're in your forties. Great,
oh boy, now I'm going down this rabbit. Sign me up, Steve,
Misspelling with Tory spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi you guys,
So I have a Tory story for you. Actually, my
boy Bessie, Brian Austin Green told me that I need
to tell this story, and he told me this is
my next toy story, so I'm going with it. So
this past weekend, Brian and I went to New York
(00:33):
on this top secret mission thing that's happening that I
can't talk about. That we had to sign all kinds
of NDAs and it's something really really cool and really
really special. So it kind of happened out of nowhere
and it's really awesome and you guys are gonna love
it and I can't wait to share it with you anyway. Okay,
bean gave me energy. Okay, I love work. Anyway. Ruthanne
(00:56):
and I flew from LA to New York. We've been
traveling all day and everything happened so fast. I was
like it was like one of those things like pack
a bag, get on the plane, and go. So I
actually didn't have any makeup on, and I had my
sunglasses and I had a beanie on. I was in
(01:16):
my sweats and we got to the hotel late at
night and Brian and his manager Tracy had gotten in
and they were like, oh, you know, we're at the
bar if you guys want to join us. And I
literally said to Ruthan like, oh my god, no, I
can't see Brian right now. I don't have makeup on.
Did I not say this, Ruthman, you totally said it.
I did.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I understood, not because I thought you didn't look amazing,
but I understand that feeling a female.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, there's a lot of things as women that I
think we you know, my god, boys are so lucky.
But I actually have always loved the fact that, you know,
we do get to put on makeup, and we do
get to adjust how we appear to others physically, at
least I thought I did. So anyway, we check in
(02:04):
and I was like, oh my gosh, I don't know,
just tell them we're tired, and I just we're shooting
early in the morning, and all of a sudden, as
we go to the Elvare, I'm like, oh my god,
they're right there, and I'm like, okay, I want to
see Brian and Tracy. Anyway, so we go over and
it was it was one of those things that everything
happens for a reason. So we go over and we're
(02:24):
all like, you know, talking, and we're having a drink
and Brian and I decide to go to the bar.
So we go to the bar to get everyone another
round of drinks. And we were just having like one
or two drinks and then going to bed, and he
says to me at the bar, do you know I'm
not this isn't for batim, but basically, do you know
how pretty look with less makeup? And that tanks me
(02:48):
and I was like, oh my god, I knew this
was going to happen. And I turned into that sixteen
year old girl around Brian Green again, and I was like,
I'm not kidding. I told Ruth and I didn't want
to see you tonight because I don't have makeup on.
And he's like that's ridiculous. He goes, you look so
beautiful with less makeup, and he's such a good man, like,
you know, he chose his words carefully, not no makeup,
(03:09):
he said, with less makeup. So I was like, gosh,
I don't know, I don't see it. So we got
into this conversation about he said, you know, not only
do you look prettier, because we could see your face like,
but you look younger, and it became this whole thing.
We then got back to the table. Did we start
(03:31):
talking to you guys about it when we got back
to the table.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yes, and Tracy and I concurred with Brian, but you
would never hear it from certainly you wouldn't hear it
from me.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Maybe a little bit from Tracy, but more so. And
what I ended up saying, and I don't know if
this is at the bar when we came back to
the table, was that I don't know, I feel like
I've been so conditioned my whole life being in the
public eye and having your looks just torn apart from
a young age. I mean literally, not literally like like
(04:04):
I don't know the moment it was, the exact moment.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I know.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
It was when I was seventeen and the Globe magazine
which doesn't even exist, but a tabloid, this is when
there were paper tabloids, came out with a story. It
was like, you know, the Inquirer, the Globe was like
it was a big one and nine, O two and
zero was in the Tayday. I was seventeen, though, you know,
it's like the second season. Itd just blown up and
(04:29):
all these pictures of me, saying Tory Spelling has had
all this plastic surgery. I was like seventeen, Like I
had my nose done at sixteen, but like you know,
it's it. Keep in mind, you guys, this is the nineties,
not today, when you know there's so much available and
people do botox and they do all different things, starting young.
And it said a source says. They always say a
(04:50):
source says, which means no one really said it, but
possibly they showed pictures of me when I was like nine,
or when I was like twelve, and it says people
that went to high school with her knew her, and
elementary so she looks completely different. And it went on
to say things like I had had cheecken plants and
a chinen plant and ribs removed. It was the wildest thing.
(05:14):
And I'm looking at these pictures and I'm a seventeen
year old girl, and I had just gotten it from
the news stand, which doesn't really exist anymore in Westwood,
and I was driving back home. We had just moved
into the manor, so I was driving home and I
remember pulling into my parents' driveway and I called my dad.
He was at work, and I was in tears, and
(05:36):
I was like, oh my god, I don't know what
I'm seeing. But they're saying I've had all this plastic
surgery and like I've had nothing done. And my dad
was like, always the eternal optimist. He was like, Babe,
when they're talking about you, it's good press is press
bad or good, and they'll move on to someone else
next week. And I was like, okay, okay, let me
(05:59):
try to think of it that way. But it was
devastating because I want it to be like, first of all,
I look completely different. Was something wrong with me before?
You know, we have those like weird moments we go
through in life, like your formative years and you're like
a tween, like you know, I had like baby fat cheeks,
and you know, now my face was thinning out. But
(06:20):
I hadn't had cheek and plants, I hadn't had my
chin redone, and I certainly hadn't had ribs removed. I
was like, oh my gosh, how do you even do that?
Like I'd always had a thin frame my dad and mom.
My dad was then my mom is thin, Like I
had not even thought about dieting or anything. But I'll
(06:40):
never forget that day because my dad said, don't worry,
they'll be on to someone else next week. But that
never went away, that story. And I know we're talking
about Brian and him saying I should wear less makeup,
but this is where it started, with me thinking I
needed to wear makeup. So I have to go back
to the beginning. But I was seventeen and the press
never let that go. I am fifty two right now,
(07:02):
and if you look up any comments about me, not
just from the press, like fans read into it, people
like my very existence is tory spelling. I remember I'd
read stuff when Michael Jackson was still alive, like the
only other person that's had more plastic surgery than Michael
Jackson is tory spelling it Like that one tabloid's story
(07:23):
stayed with me my entire life, and you know what,
it fucked me up, like it. Not only was I
like thrust into like stardom at an early age, living
out my bad moments good moments on TV for the world,
but I was a seventeen year old girl that didn't
(07:44):
think I looked bad. I didn't think I looked that bad.
I definitely had had my nose done, which you know,
at sixteen. Nowadays, I think that's way too young. But
back in the day, it was a it was a thing.
You know, when you turned sixteen, you know, disgussed it
with your parents and you got yours done. And other
than that, though I don't know, I was just like,
oh my god, I must be like a troll. I
(08:06):
must be the ugliest human alive if they think I've
had to have all this stuff to even be where
I am now. And then the comments just kept going.
And as much as I say I have thick skin, like,
it really stayed with me my whole life, to the
point where people still say on comments on my Instagram,
I post something like, oh my gosh, lay off the filler,
(08:29):
lay off the bowtox. Stop getting so much plastic surgery.
And I'm not supposed to interact with people saying, you know,
mean things. I'm sped to just take it on the chin, right,
But I haven't had my chin done. I don't have
filler like I have no filler in my face, you
guys like I've had botox. So I went the other direction.
I feel I at fifty two, I look at all
(08:52):
this stuff on social media. I see women my age
that have had lasers done, they've had you know, they've
had lower face lifts, they've had things done. I've had
nothing done because I'm so terrified of what people will
say because they already say I had stuff done that
I haven't had done. So I'm like super careful. Like
when I get my boatox and I do I get botox,
(09:14):
I'm always like, don't do too much. People think I've
had something else done. Like it has really messed me
up of how I perceive myself. And I think makeup
plays into that because I always thought, gosh, I must
be unattractive, and in order to be attractive, what does
(09:35):
a female do? Oh, we have that choice. We can
add makeup, we can put on a quote unquote beauty mask. Right.
So I always wore a lot of makeup, and you
know now that, especially in the last year, the whole
you know, Pamela Anderson and the whole no makeup look
is back in. That messed me up too, because I
(09:56):
was like, oh my god, I'm trying to change with
the times. I don't even feel comfortable wearing, you know,
less meat. So yeah, that's where that started and Brian
said you should try it, and he's like, you should
try wearing less makeup, and I was like, I don't know.
I don't know where I would start. First of all,
I actually love makeup the application. I feel like I'm
(10:16):
really good at it. And it's so it is an
expression on one hand, like I get my nails done
and I get, you know, crazy nails. Sometimes I'm like,
that's me expressing myself. So I do do like good
eye makeup, and when I do a lot of eye makeup,
I'm expressing myself. But that's not completely true. After we talked,
(10:37):
I was like, no, I'm hiding myself. So's it's both
at the same time. And we were about to do
this big thing and I was like, oh my gosh,
really and he said, well, you know, maybe just don't
do everything at once, like do like if you're married
to doing a lot of eyes, do less foundation. I
(10:58):
was like, but my skin, and my skin is terrible,
and he's like, your skin is great, and I'm like,
oh my god, I'm so confused, Like I don't know
what I'm looking at when I look in the mirror
that I'm seeing things that other people don't see, and
I trust Brian with my life, so if someone randomly
tells me this, and of course, you know, I'm thinking
(11:19):
that whole thing, like, oh, men always say they like
women with less makeup, So I'm like, are you sure
it's not just that guy thing, because I've heard this before.
I've heard it from my ex husband, I've heard it
from the guys i've been with, like you look so
pretty with no makeup, and I'm like, they don't mean it.
He's like, no, you really do. So long story short,
(11:43):
we did this big, top secret thing the next day,
and I definitely came into it with the mindset of
you know, me go you know, go big or go home.
So I wasn't like, let me try this out on
an Instagram photo. I chose to choose like this huge
project to be like, I'm gonna were less makeup. So
I did, and Brian and I were on set and
(12:03):
I was like so, and he's like, you look beautiful.
You wore less makeup and you look so good. And
I was like, he goes, how does it feel? And
I go, I actually feel pretty good? And I noticed
the podcast so you can only see the social clips,
but I'm literally wearing basically no makeup today. Wow, it
really helps my schedule because I can get so much
(12:24):
more done if I don't have to take like thirty
months in my makeup. But I really did like how
I looked, and it just like But then we came
back from this project and I was on Instagram and
I'm seeing all these people with you know, the majorly
defined eyebrows and the eye makeup, and I'm like, oh,
but isn't that the look that looks better on me?
(12:46):
And anyway, I'm talking to you guys about it because
I'm a little confused. So it's I'm in the moment
of going through this process and I thought, well, I
tell you guys everything. I'm an open book now, an
open face with no makeup. But it's so I don't
know him, and where did I land on that. I
don't know, to be honest, but I think it's an
important conversation, not just for me, like it's a conversation
(13:10):
all women. Chef my sixteen year old daughter, she gets
up an hour and a half before school every day
to do her makeup. She does amazing makeup, like the
most gorgeous eyes, and for her, I get it because
she's very creative and part of her she's like, I'm
not sure do I want to do I want to
be a baker, Do I want to be a makeup artist?
(13:30):
Like she has so many different things, a fashion design,
She's so good at everything that I tell her. I
remember we we had to go somewhere recently and she's like,
I don't know any makeup on. And I was like,
you look beautiful without makeup. And I heard myself, this
is before Brian told me the other day, this is
like two weeks ago. And I heard myself saying what
I have been told before by other people. Don't worry
(13:53):
about it. You look beautiful without makeup. And I stopped
myself and I said, I get it though, because I do.
Does she look gorgeous with not a stitch of makeup? Unbelievable.
She's also sixteen, Like it's harder for me at fifty
two to rationalize now being like, no, I'm not going
to wear makeup. But I get it. It's a real
(14:14):
thing once it's in your head. And we have social media,
like we see all this stuff where like it's a
tough thing and it's like to makeup or not makeup?
What is the answer, And I don't know. I'm not sure,
and I'm not sure if I look in the mirror
and I'm like, oh, I look younger without makeup, I'm
not sure I see what Brian sees. But I definitely
(14:38):
there's something to it. And I wonder at fifty two, like,
can I readjust my brain to actually see something that
I haven't seen all these years, something that's part of me?
And is that part of self growth and loving yourself?
I don't know. I'm posing all these questions that I
don't have answers to because it's happening in the moment
right now. Brian's gonna be so proud I did this
(15:00):
podcast with no makeup today. But here I am, and like,
I guarantee you guys, if I put a picture of
myself on social today with no makeup, people will still
be like, look at all the plastic surgery she's had done.
People will listen to this podcast and will hear me
(15:20):
say the words I have not had all this work
done that I'm like supposedly had all these years, and
they will still choose to believe an article that came
out when I was seventeen years old. It's just like
this thing that has stayed with me my entire life.
I wish I could shed it, Like I'm sure one
(15:40):
day I'll want to have something done in my face,
and I don't want to be scared not to because
I'm scared what people are going to think because they
already think it, Or do I just do it because
they already assume I've done it? Anyway, I don't know,
it's such an odd thing, what an odd conversation.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
No, Yeah, I think I think most women grapple with this.
You know, in a perfect world, the rule would be
you do what makes you feel good about you, not
because you're responding to negative feedback if you don't, or
(16:17):
even negative feedback in your head.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
But that's easier said than done. You know, it'd be
great if every time somebody said, oh, you look great
without makeup, or you look you know, you look young,
or whatever, we believed it. I mean, I think the
problem is more what goes on inside our heads as
opposed to what the external is saying. And that's work
(16:41):
everybody has to do on themselves.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, it's really hard in a world where we're shown
to extremes right now, right like there's people that were
a lot of makeup, Like not that they don't look great,
but like the Kardashians set a whole trend with makeup,
you know, with that that look, you know, and it
was definitely major makeup, defined contouring eyes, and you know what,
(17:09):
Sometimes when I watch their show and there's some scenes
where they have no makeup on They've just spontaneously done it,
I'm like, I say the same thing. I'm like, Kim
looks so pretty with no makeup, and I'm like thinking,
in my head, oh my god, this is the age
old thing, Like what is it? So it's either you
wear all that makeup and you look great, or now
you wear no makeup and you're just like this is me,
(17:30):
you know, and this is my age. And so what's
the in between? I don't know. And we're always depending
on society to tell us like, oh, this is in
right now. So I don't know, no makeup's in right now,
but like in a year, it might be something completely different.
So I understand you're supposed to do what works best
for you, but it's really hard, I think in life.
(17:52):
I'm not just saying because I'm in the public eye, Like, no,
I am saying because I'm in the public eye. I
want to apologize for a second. Sorry, like how I
tried to do that, Like it's not about me, No,
it is. It's much harder having been in people's living room,
you know, since I was a teenager. Now I do
a rewatch, you know, watching myself back as a teenager, thinking,
(18:15):
I do think when I watched nine o two one,
oh and Jenny and Amy, and I watch it back
on nine O two one. OMG, I do watch Donna
through a different lens now, and I definitely am able
to see now because I know then I used to
cry in the makeup chair. I used to cry. And
I remember my makeup artist, Nick I had a male,
a straight male makeup artist that was very and back then,
(18:38):
and he was married with kids, and I would just
be hysterically crying. I had some bad boyfriend that told
me I was ugly. I'm working with these gorgeous women.
That article had come out saying, oh, she's ugly and
she's had all this plastic surgery. And I'm sitting here
on this huge TV show and I would just cry
(18:58):
and cry all my makeup off and he'd have to
put it back on, and I remember him saying, You're
you're going to fall in love with yourself more as
you get older. You're such a beautiful girl, and you're
only going to age even better, and you're gonna look
at yourself. He would say, like thirty years around and
be like, oh my gosh, and feel comfortable with yourself.
(19:21):
And here I am, you know, thirty plus years later,
and I'm still not comfortable with myself. But I am
able to watch Donna back and know the heartache I
went through feeling like I had to keep up with
the other girls, feeling like I had to look as
pretty as them or maybe I wouldn't be light. And
it was really hard for a young girl, where you know,
(19:41):
I'm watching my daughter the same age, and they're worried
about how they look, but they're worried about how their
friends at school look. I had to worry about the
way millions perceived me and didn't perceive me, and it
was a hard thing. But I watched Donna now and
I'm like, you were so pretty. Like I'm able to
separate it and watch the show as a fan. Now,
(20:04):
I'm like, Donna Martin, you're a really pretty girl. Akay,
that's Tory spelling, you were a really pretty girl, and
I wish I don't believe in regrets. Everything's your journey,
but I do wish that I could go back and
tell that girl like, you're pretty, like, don't listen to
what people say, like, and I wish I could make
her love herself then, because it'd be a whole different
(20:26):
ballgame now for me. Yeah, because it's funny. I'll watch
Donna then me as a teenager, me in my early
twenties and be like, oh, you were so pretty, like
you didn't need all that makeup, And I wish I
had loved myself. But I look at Tory now in
the mirror and I'm like, no, I don't see it.
(20:47):
So I don't know. It's a lot of ketchup work
you have to do. I don't know if you ever
get there. It'd be nice to get there. Oh that'd
be so nice. It'd be so nice to look in
the mirror and be like cool, feeling good up, rock on.
And I have a lot of respect for people that
can do that, and I aim to get there one day. Anyway,
(21:11):
I'm doing this podcast. You'll hear most of it, see
the social clips. But I have to watch myself the
entire time. So I'm literally looking into my computer on
my zoom speaking to myself and I'm sitting here with
no makeup, and I'm like, I'm getting through it. I'm
not like, I, do you have a ringlin Maybe that's
(21:33):
helped me. Maybe I could just take like a personal
ring light through life that like eased me into it.
I wish Brian had been honest today because I'm forgetting
all the good stuff he said to me, because it
made me so nervous having that conversation. And then the
next night we're at dinner and he was like, so,
(21:55):
he's like, you need to tell this story, your tory
story about this because that's so important for you know,
everyone to hear, like the struggles that people go through
with the identity of what they see in the mirror
versus what other people see, and how that's a reflection
of like how you feel inside. And I was like, wow,
that just got real deep for me. He's like, yeah,
(22:15):
and that's okay. Live in that like uncomfortable zone. You
don't always have to be funny. And I was like, yeah,
and that's another thing, like I have made up for
what I perceive not being the prettiest girl, but I'm
the funniest girl, like so I throw out humor with
everything and at that point, you know, at some point
that kind of gets old too, Like it's hard to
(22:38):
sit with yourself, like be vulnerable, and it's an intimate
place and it's wildly uncomfortable. But as a mom of
five kids and two girls, like, I want to get there.
I want to get there so I can support them
as they're like going through these years and putting on
makeup or not putting on makeup or yeah, well for
(23:01):
whatever it's worth you, Yeah, look beautiful today.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
And I know you always say well with Anne, either
you're blind or which.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
She is, She's always think that, but it's true.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
And I think I see you as most people see you.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
So again, it's just about you seeing it in yourself
and personally, I don't think you have to commit to
one thing or the other. You know, there are days
you feel like doing yourself up. You do it.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
There are days you're.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Like, I don't have time.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
And you don't, but hope it's true to the world.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Not feeling horrible about yourself on those days that you don't.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I just wish the world was kinder. Well, we all
wish the world was kinder, but people don't realize the
impact that words have. Like when words are said, you
can't unhear them. If they're in print, you can't unsee them.
And that's why people say, you know, lead by your actions,
not your words. But it's just like it's a tough one.
(24:05):
So you know, like I when I leave the house,
like I want to go to the grocery store, Like
a month ago or two months ago, I went to
the Trader Joe's picking up like food for my kids
to make dinner. And I didn't see them, but some
paparazzi got a picture of me and it was like, ooh,
look at her without makeup, And I was like, fuck, Like,
(24:26):
I'm just trying to live like it's not it's just
a weird, weird fucking world we live in all around.
But it's like and maybe this wouldn't come up for
me as much, but it's it. Definitely. I'm really working
on myself and my growth being now my fifties and
(24:48):
single again, single not married. I was married for you know,
eighteen years, and you know, it was so lost in
my relationship and the identity of being everyone you know,
a mom, a wife, an actress, reality start just making
it all happen that you know. And I've talked about
(25:09):
this a lot, like I don't have me time, I've
lost all that, but like I lost a big chunk
of myself and I'm really trying now to find who
that person is. And it's just in the midst of
trying to find yourself in your fifties, which is not
the age I think we're supposed to be trying to
find ourselves. I mean, there's no age, I guess, but
(25:32):
it's like I definitely like it's it's a tough one.
But I heard Brian's words. I heard them. I couldn't
unhear them, and they impacted me because it wasn't coming
from someone that was just you know, oh, you're an actress,
you're pretty, like you don't need makeup. So someone that
has been my friend and family since I was sixteen
(25:52):
years old, and what he says matters. And I'm kind
of shocked because like my husband would tell me this
over the years and I would be like, I don't
believe you. You're just saying that you're in love with me,
So like you don't. You can't. You can't see what's
really there. But I heard what Brian said, like it
really impacted me on such a deep level. So yeah,
(26:15):
I'm definitely going to keep wearing makeup because I love
doing my eyes like, I love doing that, and I'm
not taking out my extensions. Rod Pick could tell me
I look good without extensions, and I'm not doing that.
I mean maybe for brod pet, I don't know, baby steps.
So yeah, it will be interesting when you guys all
(26:36):
hear this podcast, because I'll go on social media and
can't wait to hear the fun stuff you guys are
going to say. I mean, actually, if you're all listening
to this podcast, you like me and you find me
relatable and I'm part of your world, so thank you.
But it's the others you have to worry about.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Just remember one thing, m look where the globe is
now after speaking unfavorably about you, so lesson there.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I don't think that had anything to do with me. No,
but they just went under eventually.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Well they start because they were, you know, shitting on
young girls, which is just not okay no matter who you.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Are or what you look like. So oh, it's so
interesting you say that because they got no backlash over it.
But you're right, they were talking about an underage girl
in her looks but no one but that's kind of
the media anyway, and no one says anything.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I think there's pushback more and more, you.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Think, I hope, So I don't know. And there's this
there's so much readily available to transform yourself that it's
just hard to be like on that. I don't know,
on the bandwagon of no, no, no, no, this is
me and I'm proud of me. Like that's a tough one.
(27:57):
There's so many viable things that we can transform ourselves
with now. I mean, you and I were talking on
the way back from the airport. That's like on social
media we were seeing like all you know, new plastic
surgery and you know, people in their like seventies and
eighties are looking like they're in their forties. And we
(28:20):
both had a moment We're like, we're screwed, right, And
I was like, how do I get some of that?
But you're right, I know, And I, on the other hand,
was like, and I can never get any of that
because people already say I've had plastic surgery, so I
just have to stay just like this out of fear
that the what they're already saying it, I don't have
time to get plastic surgery.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
But like, well, the crazy thing is, and this just
goes back to the beginning of this is you don't
need it.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You look so much younger than you are.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
You are blessed with amazing genes, you know, and you've
taken care of your skin, and you're a beautiful girl.
Not that you see it, but the truth is, you
have all of that going for you, and you do
look beautiful without makeup, and you look beautiful with makeup.
The challenge is believing believing it for yourself, and that
(29:15):
is just not an easy thing to do.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
No, not like my Instagram, Like my Instagram thinks I
want to see like those masks and like under eye patches.
I don't know why, but they keep putting them on
my for you page and it's very like I buy
into it too. I'm like, oh my gosh, the glass
(29:38):
skin look. I'm like, cool, that looks great. Like I
don't know have not Like I don't do any lasers.
I don't do any of that stuff. This was to
tighten your skin. I don't do it. Like it sounds good,
be nice to have glass skin, Like you don't have
to have plastic surgery, just glass skin. But it's like
it's so they make you believe it. It's it's like it's
(30:01):
like they draw you in, like, oh, I must need that. Wait,
so you're saying I don't have to get like lasers
or plastic surgery. I could just have glass skin with
just a mask I put on for twenty minutes, for
twenty nine ninety five. Wow, and I can get a bogo.
Oh my gosh, yes, I'm in Like it is just wild.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Now. The truth is, we don't know how much of
those images have been done, you know, any of them,
all of them. You have no idea unless you see
somebody in person what it really looks like.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
That's the problem. No one's in today's age, Like nobody
really has to see anybody in person anymore, except if
you're fifty two and single and suddenly you have to
date again. Budge, It's like, wow, that's an interesting concept. Yeah,
But like last week I bought the zombie mask, Like
I shouldn't be buying something that is called the zombie mask,
(31:05):
Like that's not good for my self esteem and I
was like, what is this new trend, the zombie mask? Oh,
Kardashians wore it, Click Apple Pay, I'm in and I
bought it. I'll tell you what it's like when it
gets here. I have no idea. And you know, I
tried that snail secretion mask. That was pretty good, though.
That scared me. It like hydrated my skin though, like
(31:27):
it did it did? It felt hydrated. Oh boy, you guys.
It just scares me because I'm like, what is it
going to be like for my kids, my six year
old and my thirteen year old when they're in their
forties and fifties, Like I can't even imagine, Like look
at Ai now, Like what we can do. We will
(31:48):
never have to worry about any of this. Maybe it'll
be a button in your face, will just be a
computerized version of yourself at sixteen when you're in your forties. Great,
oh boy, now I'm going down this rabbit. Sign me up, Steve,
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