August 28, 2025 • 37 mins
On this episode of Levels to This, hosts Sheryl Swoopes and Terrika Foster-Brasby talk ball with the up and coming stars of the Washington Mystics, Sonia Citron and Kiki Iriafen. They deep dive into what the transition was like going from college basketball to the W, the camaraderie and dynamic of the team, and the feelings they experienced getting selected to play in the AT&T WNBA All-Star Game. These girls are making history as Sonia and Kiki are the first rookie teammates to be selected as All-Stars since 1999! Tune into this week's episode and find out who's the funniest player on the Mystics and what Sonia and Kiki can't travel without.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Levels to This is an iHeart women's sports production in
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hey, what's up, everybody, it's your girl. Terrika Foster Brasby.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
What's up, y'all? It's your girls?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Cheryl swoops Hey, And this is the Levels to this podcast.
This is the show where we talk about the levels
to the ship.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
That women go through.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And I like, this show is going to be probably
one of the most fun shows because we have a
two special guests, not one, but two special guests today
and their energy just just brings me.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
So much joy. So we.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Give it them two for the price of one. Speaking
of two for one, Speaking of two for one, Cheryl, Okay,
I've been sitting here waiting on my two wigs to
come and I'm starting to get a little frustrated.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Okay from where from where I from?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
You?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Nice? Okay? Okay? And they had a two for one special.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It was like, if you buy one, you can get
a second one for like forty percent off or something
like that.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
So I was like, bet let me get it.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Then they were like Okay, we got this special thing
going on where you get like free two day, three
day shipping or something.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I was like, bet, girl, it's been a week. Where
is my hair? It's a setup. It's a set up.
It's coming up. Where is my air? So I'm sitting
up here with this with this. Look at this. You
see what I got in my head? It's okay, it's cute.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
When I hopped in the car, a producer Aaron was like,
is it that cold already? I said, no, I don't
want to.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Do my hair. My wigs ain't here. Aaron can't relate.
Shit ain't here, Aaron. That's why Aaron cannot relate. He cannot.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
So here's what I want to know, and you can
tell or not tell. So colors, what colors are they?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
What do they look like? All the things long? Short?
I know they're long. I know they're not short. I
know they're long.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yes, they are long. They're about twenty inches, so they're
gonna hit my shoulder. One is a little wavy, the
other one is straight. They are like a reddish brown.
Because I'm in my red era right now, and I
got something really funny to tell you about that too.
But I'm in my red era right now, and so
they're like reddish brown, and I'm really excited.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Like we were at WNBA.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
All Star last year in Phoenix and you nice was
a sponsor for an event that we went to that
was honoring you as a matter of fact, and that
was my first time actually wearing any of their pieces,
and I was like, Okay, there's pretty straight because you
know how you see all of them, yeah, and you
(02:52):
don't believe it.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, I know, so yeah, because you don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So I was like, okay, but I've been a fan
ever since, so I know they come in.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It's just hurry up. I need you know. The thing
is when you order.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Anything right, anything at least for me, I order it
and then I'm like, I don't really want to pay
the extra money for expedited shipping.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But get me my shit quick quick. I need it quickly.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And hair and hair is just different, like you know,
because you see it online.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And it's like, oh, this is pretty, this is pretty.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
But for me, I'm always concern or worried like is
it really going to look like what it looked like online?
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Right?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
That is what has always been my reservation with ordering
almost anything fat online is that it looks real cute
on your picture, and then when I actually get it,
it's not exactly what I order. Like that is my
greatest online ordering fear, and specifically with hair because now
(04:00):
I got to go on TV with this ship and I.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
No, no, no, no, ma'am. Is that from? Is that
from the Halloween Store?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Like?
Speaker 5 (04:10):
What do we do?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
And see?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And I'm bad Like in my younger days, like when
I was playing and all the things I was the
I am not shopping online because I have to physically
put my hands on it, see it, touch it, try
it on.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And in my much wiser days.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Now, girl, anybody got time to be going in store shopping?
I just don't. I'm like, I give me online all
day long. But the worst part about that is if
you don't if if you don't like it, or if
it doesn't fit you, then gotta send it back.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, that's the whole other problems.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, and I and I ain't nobody got time for
that either. So typically what I end up doing, if
I order something that doesn't fit or I end up
not liking it, I can give it away because I.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Don't want to do the same thing. I do the
same thing.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I do that, like hit us on Instagram, whatever, because
I'm curious because it can't just be the two of us.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Right, it can't be. It can't be. It can't be.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I am the same way, like if I can't fit
it at this point, I just be like, fine, you go, here,
you go.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Somebody I know can wear it. I can't. I can't
do it.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I am only just now, like in the year of
twenty twenty five, starting to get comfortable ordering specific things
online because there are things that I steal, like my hair,
like I'm talking about, I'm anxious about it because I.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Don't order hair online a lot, Like I need to.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Walk in they and I get people who ask me
all the time to rencle where you get your wigs from,
where you get your pieces from, And I'm just like,
I have got to walk in the beauty supply story.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
We have to see it and touch it and feel it.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And during COVID, we weren't able to try on wigs
for years, right, so I'm still like getting used to
the fact that we can try on the hair again
because for a while we couldn't. So I was out
here just leaning on the Lord like, baby Jesus, let
this be as good as it looked on this mannequin,
because your girl can't put it on.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
And for those out there who are saying, girl is
just a wig, right, because I'm sure there are people
that are like, it's just a wig.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
No, it's more than just a wig. Like it is.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
The hair has not only does it have to look
good on you, like it has to feel good.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
You got to be able to run your fingers.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Through it, like now part of you make love to
it while you're trying it.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
It's got to be you. It talks to you, and
then you can give it a name.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
And when you can give you a piece a name,
that's how when you give a unit a name, that's
how you know it's yours. So that's that's all all good.
Before we move into the next level, though, really quick,
I've got to say.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
You're wearing a shirt right now.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
That's his Self Care twenty four three sixty five and
Wellness Club. And I can't tell you over the last week.
I just came back from Maryland. I spent a weekend
in Maryland at a leadership retreat that our sources in
the region.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yes, we were at a leadership and trip come on
period and.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
It was so great, right, but we took a moment
to talk about self care, willness, how we have to
do a better job as leaders, like taking care of ourselves.
And somebody had a great idea of if you're a
person that's busy and you keep a calendar, you need
to actually schedule in your self care, like block out
(07:41):
literally on your calendar. I am busy from seven to ten,
and that is your time that you've blocked out specifically
in your calendar for like self care.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Do you do that? Like have you done that? Like
literally blocked out time for you? So here's the crazy thing.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
No, not on my calendar, but in like in my head,
in my mind every morning when I wake up, I
tell myself, all right, from this time to this time
is my maytime. There's no honestly, there's no social media,
there's no cell phone, there's no calls, there's no text,
there's no husband, there's no dogs. And it's really hard
(08:21):
to do m h because you know, we as women,
we do everything. But the days when I'm able to
do it, it's so crazy, Tea, but I gotta tell.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
You it, it completely changes, Like my mood.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It changes my my mental it changes my day just
to take and sometimes as much as I want to
do like the two or three hours, sometimes it's just
like thirty minutes, where's yeah where I'm like, I'll just
go away if that's just go sit in my garden.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
And honestly, sometimes I will go sit in my car. Yeah,
Like I'll just go sit in my car.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
And hurt, no music, nothing, I just sit there and
I have like a moment of reflection or.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Talking to the Lord or talking to myself or just
some me time.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And it's crazy that you, like you read the shirt
this morning. When I got up, It's almost like the
shirt was talking to me because I've had a lot
of stuff recently that has happened, and I'm like, listen,
shit is gonna happen, and if you can't control it,
then don't stress over it. So that's why I was
(09:34):
like this shirt. I need this shirt today. And it's
crazy when we get there the quote I have for
us today.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
On this topic, I usually say, okay, this is when
like I try to get my facial ones every two months,
Like nail time is my definitely my me time, Like
that's an all day event, because it's not just nails,
it's nails eyebrows all the day, okay, because I'm doing it,
(10:04):
so it's leave me alone. So I put those things
in my schedule, but I never really just be like,
you know, Tuesday, I'm blocking out five to seven and nope,
I ain't got nothing to do, and Nope, I ain't
going to where I'm just gonna be like, that's my
my me time.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And you shouldn't have to explain that to anybody, right right,
And so I'm just wondering how other people, if other
people do that, because like, since I've heard it, I'm like,
I'm about to really go in on this calendar times.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I'm gonna start that, y'all. Yeah, like just this is
my time. I love that. So anyway, enough.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
About us, because we again told you that we guys
have a fun show today, and we do. We are
going to be joined by Washington's young stars Kiki Eria
Finn and Sonya Citron and they are hilarious. They are fun.
They're hilarious, but.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
They are I was just gonna say, and they rookies.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
That's out here, reckon shop, wrecking shop, and it's gonna
be great to chat with them and just kind of
see how this year has been for them. Washington has
certainly surprised a lot of people, and they are still
technically in playoff contention. So it's gonna be a lot
of fun to kind of talk to Kiki and Sonya
and just kind of see how things are going for them. So,
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without further ado, let's just go ahead and take this
thing to the next level. All right, guys, So joining
us today are what I think are two of the
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brightest young stars in the WNBA when you talk about
people that are making an immedia impact in their first season,
showing exactly why they were so highly regarded coming into
this league. Have already been in Rookie of the Year conversations.
Just the chemistry between them has just been amazing on
and off the court, really giving the fans plenty to
(12:01):
be excited about. So please everybody help me welcome Washington
Mystics stars Sonya Cetron and Kiki Iria Finn. Hey, y'all, Hi,
what's going on.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
I know it's early, it is, it is, so we're
excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It's early for me. Let me tell y'all the truth.
I don't wake up before ten am, So I.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Was like Grid as as early.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
But I am very excited to have you both joining
myself and Cheryl today on levels of this podcast. We've
been trying to get you both to be on the
show for a while because we just love the energy
and everything that you guys have been bringing. So let's
just kind of start there coming into the WNBA brand
new experience. I remember seeing you both at the draft.
(12:47):
Just what has your and Kiki, we can start with you,
just you know, what has your experience been as it
relates to transitioning and to the WNBA. Just you know,
the travel and the schedule, the people, Just what has
that experience been like for you?
Speaker 7 (13:04):
Yeah, I would say it's been a roller coaster. You know,
everything happens so fast. You end your cause season, you
go to New York to get drafted, then you come
straight to Washington and then you start the season immediately.
So kind of felt like you don't have any time
to breathe. But it's been fun because it's something that
I love to do. But everything is different from being
on the road traveling almost every other day.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
We don't have team meals.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
We like get to the hotel and it's like buy
see you tomorrow, which is very different from what college is.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
But I've loved it.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
I think for me, I've just looked at it as
a challenge, and you know, every night it's a new
challenge and I'm only going to learn from this. There's
no such thing as failure, So I think just looking
at everything as a learning opportunity and kind of not
having too high expectations for myself coming into the WNBA
and just trying to be a sponge whatever I can
do for my team and what can I learn from
the people that I'm playing against as well. But it's
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been fun doing this with Sony, doing it with Georgia
and Lucy all the other Ricky's. So I've had a
blast so far.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
We got nicknames already, Girl, Hey Sony and what's up?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Girl?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I'm on the team now. So that's it is it is.
But what has the experience been for you?
Speaker 5 (14:08):
I think very similar Toakiki, there's a whirlwind, like I
feel like we're going one hundred miles an hour all
the time.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
But I think it's been amazing.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
I think this organization, this team, the coaches, the front office,
they've made it so special.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
And it's just like it's made it really really fun.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
So even though it might get crazy and hectic sometimes
or you might be tired because we're playing five games
and eight day whatever, it is like it's just fun,
you know, like we're playing basketball. We get to do
what we love and we get to do it with
people we love. So I think we're just really blessed
and it's been been an awesome year.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well, let me tell you it is not just because
it's your first year that this game schedule has been
very hectic. It has been this way for everyone. Everyone's
talking about how crazy it is. But do you think
you guys have translated your or naturally translated that that
you did well in college into the w NBA. Like,
what has been the biggest adjustment for you, Sonia?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I feel like everybody says this, but I would say
the physicality and the speed at which they play, not
like not the speed physically, but the speed that you
have to make.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Decisions in the game before like that speed. I think
that is definitely something that I'm still trying to adjust
to and get better at.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
And then obviously the physicality and just being able to
handle that while you're while you're dribbling, while you're shooting,
while you're trying to make plays.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
And then I think there's just that that component of
like I need to get stronger, but as a rookie,
you can't really like lift in season, so it's kind
of off season things.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
So just trying to do the best best you can
with what you have in the moment. But I would
say those two things.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense for you, Kiki.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Honestly, I love the physicality. I think in college is
like everything was the office is all for me. So
it's not that I get to play a little bit more.
But obviously the women are stronger and faster, But I
think the biggest difference is how smart they are. Like
when I think about players that I've been guarding, which
are some of the best in the world, and like
they're at a level where I want to get too,
it's how smart they are, Like they don't necessarily have
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to body you every time or split super fast, but
like they play at their own pace and they're able
to see the play unfold before it even happened. So yeah,
that's the separator for me is just the IQ. They
have such a high IQ.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Now I love the physicality.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Girl. I know you do because quite literally started this
season with Tina, with Asia, I.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Was like, my god, like, give the girl a break.
It's crazy. So I love that.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And I think one thing that is so important is
like coming into this league to feel that you have
camaraderie and feel that you have support. And I think
one of the things that has really drawn so many
people to the two of you is because it felt
as if there has been an instant connection between you two,
but that's our appearance. We really don't know if that's
(17:02):
the case. So I'm going to ask now for the
people who have been wanting to know forever, what was
it like building the chemistry between the two of you.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Like, how how did that happen? Was it through the.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Draft, was it through practice?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
How did that come about? Either one can go.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
I would say it happened very naturally, like it wasn't forced.
Sonya is a very easy person to talk to. I
thought she was really really quiet at first, which she
kind of is at the beginning, but has a great personality.
But I think there wasn't like one moment where it
just sparked. I think when we got on the court,
we kind of had a great flow, great chemistry. And
then off the court, we spend more time with each other.
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We had so many rookie events at the beginning, so
I think that probably really helped because we're spending a
lot of time with each other at the beginning. But
it was very natural, very easy, and I feel like
that's why it's transferting on the court.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, same, Sonya, no extra.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
I would definitely agree. I would say definitely did not
happen at the drafts.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
We rarely talked.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
I think I talked to her once and I was like, oh,
this girl's intimidating, like but I think it was also
we were just such high emotions like before we like
I talked to her for the first time before we
both knew we were going to the Mystic, so I
didn't know she was going to be my teammate.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
So definitely didn't happen there. But then I think once
we got here again, like he said, we've just been
spending so much time together because we're with each other
twenty four to seven.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
If it's not traveling, then it's practice. If it's not practice,
it's a game. Like it's there's always something And again,
like she said, he's a very easy person to get
along with and not only play with, but just hang
out with, talk with, and we're going through the same things.
So it's just it's really nice to have somebody that
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understands you and that can just help you through it,
because again, I think we're going through not just like struggles,
but similar experiences, you know, being a rookie, being a
rookie in this kind of way too.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
So it's just been been good to have it by
my son.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I don't know if you guys have realized it, but
the goat is here, so I have to yield the floor.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Because Sirle's here.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
What's up, ladies, let me get let me get all
of my excitement out, because y'all, I'm not very tech savvy.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I was about to ask.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
One of you two youngins to help me with this craziness.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
But welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
And I know Te already did the great intro, but
I want to say just very briefly that I am
a fan of both of you, super proud of how
y'all have just come in this league as rookies and said,
excuse me, but uh, we ain't new to this thing.
We true to this thing, y'all are falling. So congratulations
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on such a great season in so far.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
You're welcome. Tee. I have no idea what you asked
them already.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, no, we we have had a very casual conversation.
We've already established that Sonya's nickname is Sony, and when
I see her tomorrow, I don't want her to act
brand new now and I be.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Like, hey, girl, that nickname. Is that nickname for friends
and family?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
No it's not.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I think it's for teammates. So I've established that I'm
a part of the team.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Just for this time. I'm gonna say, are you family
or team name?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I've established that I'm I am, I'm part of the team,
just for this moment, and then I'll go back to
my corner.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I like, Sony and Kiki, what's your nickname? Short? That's
short enough, right, Sony and Kiki? Now do me do
me a favor.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Can you pronounce your your your literal first name?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Because I forgot. I think it was the All Star.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Game when you were introduced, they introduced you by your
first name, and I stood up and cheered.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I was like, y'all better say my girl.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Real name, say my name name. Please say your name
for our show so people.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Know, Yes, my full name is Eria fin.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
A Fin.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yes, So I'm gonna ask a question and thank you
for pronouncing that correctly, because I mean, my name ain't
that difficult. I don't think, but I've gotten everything from
swoops to swooper. I'm like, y'all, it's not that complicated
and sorry, and it pisses me.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Off when they get it wrong.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
So, like, I've heard your name from broadcasters pronounced a
gazillion different ways. Do you ever sometimes want to just
go over or before a game and be like, y'all,
this is how you pronounce my name.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Honestly, when I'm playing, I really don't hear my name called.
It's usually like our pr person who is like, you know,
they're saying your name wrong, and like we need to
fix this, so like me go into the broadcasters before
the game or something like that.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Especially when I was in college, like that was a
big deal.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
They did not play about that.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
But yeah, when I'm playing, I really don't pay attention
to it's always after the fact that I'm like, uh,
that's not my name.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
If you're watching film back You're like, I'm about to
mute this because ain't.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
No way I'm like to listen to them say my
name like this, and do your parents ever say like, Kiki,
you need to get them to renounce your name correctly
or our name correctly.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
My dad he's like, they need to fix it. He's
texting me they need to fix that.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yes, I feel that. I feel that.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I feel that at one hundred percent. I feel at
one hundred percent. My name is Tarika and people tend
to say Terika Tyreka. I even had somebody call me Teriyaki. Y'all,
I'm not making that up. And I was that is
where I see what I'm saying. That's where I have
to draw on. I was like, now, y'all are doing
too much. My name is don't like nothing like Aiaki
like this is this is unacceptable. But I mentioned you
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guys being All Stars and so, first off, congratulations that
was an amazing honor.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Especially for rookie.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
But how was your All Star experience and just how
surprised were both of you to receive such an honor
so early in your career.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Sonya will start with.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
You, Wow, I mean I think All Star was amazing
It definitely was not something that I was expecting, so
I was very shocked when it happened, especially the way
the way that I found out. But I mean, the
weekend was it was great. I don't think I've ever
been that busy in my entire life. Those I was
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just going from one thing to another to another, like
and I'm not even some that glam gets all dressed up,
so it was it was a whirlwind, but it was amazing.
I think it was really cool to get a chance
to see the other players in the league, not in
the sense where I'm playing against them and I see
their competitive side, and I got to hang out with
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them and talk to them and just to see how
cool they were as people and just get to know them.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
So I thought that part was really cool. It was
an amazing experience.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Kiki. Did you guys get to hang out with stuff Butts?
Speaker 6 (24:22):
We were on stream a few times, but they're incredible.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Maybe not not not make the straight, but they are.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
They are the life of the party. They were so
much fun.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
And obviously, then like Sony mentioned, like we compete against them,
but we never get to really get to know their personality,
so it was so fun. You know, all the women
there the whole entire weekend, and everybody was super friendly.
I'm like, this is not how you treat me in
the game.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
So I was and and there, and they're they're not
supposed to. Well, they're not supposed to, right, right, So
I want to ask a question.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's very rare that I'm going to say three rookies
right with Georgia, But it's very rare that rookies come
into the league, or honestly any professional league for that matter,
and have the type of an impact that the two
of you are having on the Mystics so early on.
Two questions, Has that been surprising to you? And what's
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been the biggest adjustment for both of you going from
college to the w and Sonya you can go first.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
I I wouldn't say, like completely surprising, because I feel
like before the draft, when everybody was talking about the Mystics,
like my coaches were telling me like, oh, if you
went there, like there's opportunity there, you know, like you'll
get a chance to to prove yourself and.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Do what you do. So I wouldn't say it was
entirely surprising. I think how well it's translated.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Yes, I wouldn't have expected that, But I do think
that coming to Washington, the best thing about that was
not only the people, but the opportunity that me and
Kiki get to to actually play, because I think that's
a huge thing. There's so many talented players, talented rookies,
but they just don't get that chance to really prove themselves.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
So I think that was that was huge.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
So I wouldn't say I'm like totally surprised, but definitely
like a little bit, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, And what's been the biggest What's been the biggest
adjustment for you?
Speaker 5 (26:47):
I would definitely say, uh, the handling, the physicality, and
then also just the speed at which you have to
make decisions, just because everything happens so fast and if
you don't, like, you'll just miss it if you missed
that split second. Like you really just have to see
things almost before they happen, just because everybody is so
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it's so good.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I would say that. So those two, those two things.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Now I'm about to talk about Cheryl for being late,
because I didn't already ask yall to a.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Just miss questions. You see what happens, See what happens
when you be late? Okay, so don't don't answer that part.
But other part they're probably like, day, where do you
answer this?
Speaker 7 (27:29):
Yes, I was surprised just because my situation was a
little bit different from Sony. There was a lot of
people ahead of me, so I felt like training camp
I was fighting for my life. Like I was like,
I'm gonna come out of this and my coaches are
going to be forced to have to play me, And
that's that's the extent of what it was. I didn't
know if I was going to be starting. I didn't
know if I'd played twenty plus minutes, but I'm like,
I want I'm gonna I'm not getting a DMP, Like,
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my coaches are going to play me every single game.
So I think for me, it was just being relentless
in training camp, really showing that I wasn't scared of anybody,
and just having the confidence and I really showcase that
in our preseason games as well, which gave my coaches
a confidence like Okay, she can compete at this level.
But yeah, I think it was honestly exciting for me
to leave college and I didn't leave college the way
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I would have liked to, so to leave college and
come to the league and kind of have a reset
and be like I get to decide how I want
this story to go and how I want this chapter
to go, and I get to decide how I want
to enter the w NBA. So I think I just
put my head down and I was like, I'm gonna
work super hard, I'm gonna leave nothing up the chance,
and I'm gonna like take whatever I want. And I
feel like that has helped me kind of have success
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and have impact afterimastics.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I love that, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
So I know that you guys gotta gotta get to
shoot around and get and wrap up really quick. So
before we go, I just want to do a quick
little rapid fire with the both of you. Just have
a little bit of fun. Okay, So first one, what's
your go to pregame like hype song? Like what's the
what's the what's what's in? What's on the os when
you're when you're getting ready for the game.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
I don't really listen to music that much.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
What that?
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Yeah, I know, I know, Well, I feel like play
music in the locker room. So I just listened to
their music because it's on the speaker. But afrobeats always
hypes me up.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I like, look at Kiki, not in her heads. That's
the one that's.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Not when we get when we get to burn a
boy playing tomorrow. I don't say that.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
For me. I would say gospel music.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
It doesn't really matter. I just put it on shuffle.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
But kind of I'm like a very energetic and ra person,
so that allows me to like a little like calm
down a little.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Bit like wow on the court.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Oh my god. Okay, here's another one for you.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
What's been your favorite city to visit so far in
the w NBA and why is it Connecticut?
Speaker 7 (29:59):
I'm Connectic, but I would say Chicago has been really fun.
Where we stay is really pretty, and there's a lot
of shops and we've got to spend a good amount
of time in Chicago. So Chicago's mine.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Okay, I want to say the same thing. I would say, though,
I am excited to go to Connecticut for the pizza.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
That's fair. That's fair.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
After the game, for sure.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
That's fair. She's probably going to Frank Pepe and get
some pizza.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
I get it exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Connecticut pizza.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Oh, Connecticut has a sign that says we're the pizza
capital of the world. Don't don't even get me started.
I don't know about that even yeah, Connecticut, I don't
know about that.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I'm just that's just what they say.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Okay, okay, two more really quick.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
One.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Who's the funniest teammate in the locker room?
Speaker 6 (30:52):
So different? We have different characters funny.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I don't think the funniest though, but you always make
people laugh.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
I think this is a very funny team. Everybody's funny.
Speaker 7 (31:07):
I can believe that we're like young, so everything is
like goofy like step like keep us in check all
the time. She's like lock in, like we're not supposed
to be playing around right now.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
See Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Last one, what is your must have on a road trip? Like,
no matter what's going on, I gotta have this when
we're going somewhere.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Macha late.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Say a lot. Gotta travel with a latee.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
You gotta travel a lot to know because I'm going
to get me a coffee. Gotta travel with a latte
because I'm going to get me some coffee.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
As soon as we've.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Done, Oh my god, ladies, this has been great. I
wish we had more time, but I do understand that
you guys have to get to shoot around. But my guy,
it's so fun to uh to talk to you guys
and to have you guys.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
On the show.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
And I mean again, I got three, I got future
goats and the real goal right here in front of me.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
So I'm a lucky one really, Any last words.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Cheryl, Now, I just want to say to both of you,
first of all, thank you for joining us. And like
T said, I really wish we had more time because
I had a whole lineup of stuff we were going
to discuss. But I just want to say to both
of you, keep doing what you're doing. Listen, it only
says rookie, but both of you are playing like season
vets in this league already. Keep doing what you're doing
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because there are a lot of young girls out there
who are watching you and want to be just like
the both of you.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
And congrats on such a great season so far.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Thank thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Thanks ladies, have a great day.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Thank you, thank you guys.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Cheryol, that's what a guy.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
We could have kept talking to Kiki and Sonya all day.
I know they had to get to shoot around with Steve.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Like Phil, it was so many things I didn't even
get a chance to think about. I got.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I had a long, long, long list of questions for them.
But for those of you who are wondering, like if
this is real and if we're recording live and all
the things, Yeah, so like internet does what it wants
to do, so you know, my internet was doing what it.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
But I will tell you I'm a huge fan both
Sonia ki Key and I always think about what, like
what my relationship would have been like with other rookies
had I been drafted as a rookie, because that's another
thing I think we at some point need to do
kind of like a history lesson on like when the
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w started, like you know, for sure, Gret, like, we
didn't have a draft, so I wasn't drafted. But anyway,
I love the relationship that the two of them have
as rookies.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Now are we considered friends or family? So we get
to call Sonya Sony.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I saw Sony at the game because they played Connecticut
the very next day.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And when I walked out of the court, I saorry
she saw me.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
She behaved instantly, smiled instantly, and I said hey Sony,
and she started cracking up and she said, ah, so
it is what it is, y'all. Anybody out there that's
in their feelings being your feelings, because I'm I'm clearly,
I'm clearly family now, it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
We We'm not.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
I'm not, you know, let me tell you, let me
tell you something. You can do whatever it is you
want to do.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Because I wish one of these players would be like
Cheryl kid call me Sony.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
That is the only reason.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Wow, that's the only reason why I was like, wait
a minute, I don't worry about gonna do what she.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Want to do. It ain't nobody gonna tell her.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Now.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Some people might try, but it ain't gonna matter whatever.
I'm gonna do what I want to do anyway. So yeah,
I love those two.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
And you know, next year their sophomore season and then
getting Georgia Amore back.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Washington's Washington's gonna be nice.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
It's gonna be alright. All right, Cheryl, what you got
for us today? As we level this thing on off.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Well I told you in the beginning.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
It kind of goes along what we were talking about
on surface level. So it says, when you learn how
much you're worth, you'll stop giving people discounts.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Let me say one more time. Yeah, one more time.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
When you learn how much you're worth, you'll stop giving
people discounts.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Mm hm m m hm hm hm hm.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
I don't even want to say nothing after that because
I read that and I was like, oh, thank you
for reminding me.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I feel like I feel like that right there, that
that just checked me. That like, that just checked me.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
So that was put me in check for me because
I don't be sticking to these boundaries. That's the next
show topic.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, to talk about boundaries and sticking to them, not
just setting stick to them. I'm writing that down right now,
so we don't forget. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I like setting boundaries because this right here, I set
them and I don't stick with them and people get
more out of me than they probably deserve.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I got to growl Okay, yeah, done, that's it. I
got it. That's it. That's it. It's a wrap, all right,
seaw We appreciate you hanging out with us.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
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Speaker 2 (37:10):
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Speaker 3 (37:29):
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Speaker 1 (37:35):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hey, what's up, everybody, it's your girl. Terrika Foster Brasby.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
What's up, y'all? It's your girls?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Cheryl swoops Hey, And this is the Levels to this podcast.
This is the show where we talk about the levels
to the ship.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
That women go through.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And I like, this show is going to be probably
one of the most fun shows because we have a
two special guests, not one, but two special guests today
and their energy just just brings me.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
So much joy. So we.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Give it them two for the price of one. Speaking
of two for one, Speaking of two for one, Cheryl, Okay,
I've been sitting here waiting on my two wigs to
come and I'm starting to get a little frustrated.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Okay from where from where I from?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
You?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Nice? Okay? Okay? And they had a two for one special.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It was like, if you buy one, you can get
a second one for like forty percent off or something
like that.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
So I was like, bet let me get it.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Then they were like Okay, we got this special thing
going on where you get like free two day, three
day shipping or something.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I was like, bet, girl, it's been a week. Where
is my hair? It's a setup. It's a set up.
It's coming up. Where is my air? So I'm sitting
up here with this with this. Look at this. You
see what I got in my head? It's okay, it's cute.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
When I hopped in the car, a producer Aaron was like,
is it that cold already? I said, no, I don't
want to.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Do my hair. My wigs ain't here. Aaron can't relate.
Shit ain't here, Aaron. That's why Aaron cannot relate. He cannot.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
So here's what I want to know, and you can
tell or not tell. So colors, what colors are they?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
What do they look like? All the things long? Short?
I know they're long. I know they're not short. I
know they're long.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yes, they are long. They're about twenty inches, so they're
gonna hit my shoulder. One is a little wavy, the
other one is straight. They are like a reddish brown.
Because I'm in my red era right now, and I
got something really funny to tell you about that too.
But I'm in my red era right now, and so
they're like reddish brown, and I'm really excited.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Like we were at WNBA.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
All Star last year in Phoenix and you nice was
a sponsor for an event that we went to that
was honoring you as a matter of fact, and that
was my first time actually wearing any of their pieces,
and I was like, Okay, there's pretty straight because you
know how you see all of them, yeah, and you
(02:52):
don't believe it.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, I know, so yeah, because you don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So I was like, okay, but I've been a fan
ever since, so I know they come in.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It's just hurry up. I need you know. The thing
is when you order.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Anything right, anything at least for me, I order it
and then I'm like, I don't really want to pay
the extra money for expedited shipping.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But get me my shit quick quick. I need it quickly.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And hair and hair is just different, like you know,
because you see it online.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And it's like, oh, this is pretty, this is pretty.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
But for me, I'm always concern or worried like is
it really going to look like what it looked like online?
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Right?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
That is what has always been my reservation with ordering
almost anything fat online is that it looks real cute
on your picture, and then when I actually get it,
it's not exactly what I order. Like that is my
greatest online ordering fear, and specifically with hair because now
(04:00):
I got to go on TV with this ship and I.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
No, no, no, no, ma'am. Is that from? Is that
from the Halloween Store?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Like?
Speaker 5 (04:10):
What do we do?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
And see?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And I'm bad Like in my younger days, like when
I was playing and all the things I was the
I am not shopping online because I have to physically
put my hands on it, see it, touch it, try
it on.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And in my much wiser days.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Now, girl, anybody got time to be going in store shopping?
I just don't. I'm like, I give me online all
day long. But the worst part about that is if
you don't if if you don't like it, or if
it doesn't fit you, then gotta send it back.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, that's the whole other problems.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, and I and I ain't nobody got time for
that either. So typically what I end up doing, if
I order something that doesn't fit or I end up
not liking it, I can give it away because I.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Don't want to do the same thing. I do the
same thing.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I do that, like hit us on Instagram, whatever, because
I'm curious because it can't just be the two of us.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Right, it can't be. It can't be. It can't be.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I am the same way, like if I can't fit
it at this point, I just be like, fine, you go, here,
you go.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Somebody I know can wear it. I can't. I can't
do it.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I am only just now, like in the year of
twenty twenty five, starting to get comfortable ordering specific things
online because there are things that I steal, like my hair,
like I'm talking about, I'm anxious about it because I.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Don't order hair online a lot, Like I need to.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Walk in they and I get people who ask me
all the time to rencle where you get your wigs from,
where you get your pieces from, And I'm just like,
I have got to walk in the beauty supply story.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
We have to see it and touch it and feel it.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And during COVID, we weren't able to try on wigs
for years, right, so I'm still like getting used to
the fact that we can try on the hair again
because for a while we couldn't. So I was out
here just leaning on the Lord like, baby Jesus, let
this be as good as it looked on this mannequin,
because your girl can't put it on.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
And for those out there who are saying, girl is
just a wig, right, because I'm sure there are people
that are like, it's just a wig.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
No, it's more than just a wig. Like it is.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
The hair has not only does it have to look
good on you, like it has to feel good.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
You got to be able to run your fingers.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Through it, like now part of you make love to
it while you're trying it.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
It's got to be you. It talks to you, and
then you can give it a name.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
And when you can give you a piece a name,
that's how when you give a unit a name, that's
how you know it's yours. So that's that's all all good.
Before we move into the next level, though, really quick,
I've got to say.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
You're wearing a shirt right now.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
That's his Self Care twenty four three sixty five and
Wellness Club. And I can't tell you over the last week.
I just came back from Maryland. I spent a weekend
in Maryland at a leadership retreat that our sources in
the region.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yes, we were at a leadership and trip come on
period and.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
It was so great, right, but we took a moment
to talk about self care, willness, how we have to
do a better job as leaders, like taking care of ourselves.
And somebody had a great idea of if you're a
person that's busy and you keep a calendar, you need
to actually schedule in your self care, like block out
(07:41):
literally on your calendar. I am busy from seven to ten,
and that is your time that you've blocked out specifically
in your calendar for like self care.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Do you do that? Like have you done that? Like
literally blocked out time for you? So here's the crazy thing.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
No, not on my calendar, but in like in my head,
in my mind every morning when I wake up, I
tell myself, all right, from this time to this time
is my maytime. There's no honestly, there's no social media,
there's no cell phone, there's no calls, there's no text,
there's no husband, there's no dogs. And it's really hard
(08:21):
to do m h because you know, we as women,
we do everything. But the days when I'm able to
do it, it's so crazy, Tea, but I gotta tell.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
You it, it completely changes, Like my mood.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It changes my my mental it changes my day just
to take and sometimes as much as I want to
do like the two or three hours, sometimes it's just
like thirty minutes, where's yeah where I'm like, I'll just
go away if that's just go sit in my garden.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
And honestly, sometimes I will go sit in my car. Yeah,
Like I'll just go sit in my car.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
And hurt, no music, nothing, I just sit there and
I have like a moment of reflection or.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Talking to the Lord or talking to myself or just
some me time.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And it's crazy that you, like you read the shirt
this morning. When I got up, It's almost like the
shirt was talking to me because I've had a lot
of stuff recently that has happened, and I'm like, listen,
shit is gonna happen, and if you can't control it,
then don't stress over it. So that's why I was
(09:34):
like this shirt. I need this shirt today. And it's
crazy when we get there the quote I have for
us today.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
On this topic, I usually say, okay, this is when
like I try to get my facial ones every two months,
Like nail time is my definitely my me time, Like
that's an all day event, because it's not just nails,
it's nails eyebrows all the day, okay, because I'm doing it,
(10:04):
so it's leave me alone. So I put those things
in my schedule, but I never really just be like,
you know, Tuesday, I'm blocking out five to seven and nope,
I ain't got nothing to do, and Nope, I ain't
going to where I'm just gonna be like, that's my
my me time.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And you shouldn't have to explain that to anybody, right right,
And so I'm just wondering how other people, if other
people do that, because like, since I've heard it, I'm like,
I'm about to really go in on this calendar times.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I'm gonna start that, y'all. Yeah, like just this is
my time. I love that. So anyway, enough.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
About us, because we again told you that we guys
have a fun show today, and we do. We are
going to be joined by Washington's young stars Kiki Eria
Finn and Sonya Citron and they are hilarious. They are fun.
They're hilarious, but.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
They are I was just gonna say, and they rookies.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
That's out here, reckon shop, wrecking shop, and it's gonna
be great to chat with them and just kind of
see how this year has been for them. Washington has
certainly surprised a lot of people, and they are still
technically in playoff contention. So it's gonna be a lot
of fun to kind of talk to Kiki and Sonya
and just kind of see how things are going for them. So,
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without further ado, let's just go ahead and take this
thing to the next level. All right, guys, So joining
us today are what I think are two of the
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brightest young stars in the WNBA when you talk about
people that are making an immedia impact in their first season,
showing exactly why they were so highly regarded coming into
this league. Have already been in Rookie of the Year conversations.
Just the chemistry between them has just been amazing on
and off the court, really giving the fans plenty to
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be excited about. So please everybody help me welcome Washington
Mystics stars Sonya Cetron and Kiki Iria Finn. Hey, y'all, Hi,
what's going on.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
I know it's early, it is, it is, so we're
excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It's early for me. Let me tell y'all the truth.
I don't wake up before ten am, So I.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Was like Grid as as early.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
But I am very excited to have you both joining
myself and Cheryl today on levels of this podcast. We've
been trying to get you both to be on the
show for a while because we just love the energy
and everything that you guys have been bringing. So let's
just kind of start there coming into the WNBA brand
new experience. I remember seeing you both at the draft.
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Just what has your and Kiki, we can start with you,
just you know, what has your experience been as it
relates to transitioning and to the WNBA. Just you know,
the travel and the schedule, the people, Just what has
that experience been like for you?
Speaker 7 (13:04):
Yeah, I would say it's been a roller coaster. You know,
everything happens so fast. You end your cause season, you
go to New York to get drafted, then you come
straight to Washington and then you start the season immediately.
So kind of felt like you don't have any time
to breathe. But it's been fun because it's something that
I love to do. But everything is different from being
on the road traveling almost every other day.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
We don't have team meals.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
We like get to the hotel and it's like buy
see you tomorrow, which is very different from what college is.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
But I've loved it.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
I think for me, I've just looked at it as
a challenge, and you know, every night it's a new
challenge and I'm only going to learn from this. There's
no such thing as failure, So I think just looking
at everything as a learning opportunity and kind of not
having too high expectations for myself coming into the WNBA
and just trying to be a sponge whatever I can
do for my team and what can I learn from
the people that I'm playing against as well. But it's
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been fun doing this with Sony, doing it with Georgia
and Lucy all the other Ricky's. So I've had a
blast so far.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
We got nicknames already, Girl, Hey Sony and what's up?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Girl?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I'm on the team now. So that's it is it is.
But what has the experience been for you?
Speaker 5 (14:08):
I think very similar Toakiki, there's a whirlwind, like I
feel like we're going one hundred miles an hour all
the time.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
But I think it's been amazing.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
I think this organization, this team, the coaches, the front office,
they've made it so special.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
And it's just like it's made it really really fun.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
So even though it might get crazy and hectic sometimes
or you might be tired because we're playing five games
and eight day whatever, it is like it's just fun,
you know, like we're playing basketball. We get to do
what we love and we get to do it with
people we love. So I think we're just really blessed
and it's been been an awesome year.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well, let me tell you it is not just because
it's your first year that this game schedule has been
very hectic. It has been this way for everyone. Everyone's
talking about how crazy it is. But do you think
you guys have translated your or naturally translated that that
you did well in college into the w NBA. Like,
what has been the biggest adjustment for you, Sonia?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I feel like everybody says this, but I would say
the physicality and the speed at which they play, not
like not the speed physically, but the speed that you
have to make.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Decisions in the game before like that speed. I think
that is definitely something that I'm still trying to adjust
to and get better at.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
And then obviously the physicality and just being able to
handle that while you're while you're dribbling, while you're shooting,
while you're trying to make plays.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
And then I think there's just that that component of
like I need to get stronger, but as a rookie,
you can't really like lift in season, so it's kind
of off season things.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
So just trying to do the best best you can
with what you have in the moment. But I would
say those two things.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense for you, Kiki.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Honestly, I love the physicality. I think in college is
like everything was the office is all for me. So
it's not that I get to play a little bit more.
But obviously the women are stronger and faster, But I
think the biggest difference is how smart they are. Like
when I think about players that I've been guarding, which
are some of the best in the world, and like
they're at a level where I want to get too,
it's how smart they are, Like they don't necessarily have
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to body you every time or split super fast, but
like they play at their own pace and they're able
to see the play unfold before it even happened. So yeah,
that's the separator for me is just the IQ. They
have such a high IQ.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Now I love the physicality.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Girl. I know you do because quite literally started this
season with Tina, with Asia, I.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Was like, my god, like, give the girl a break.
It's crazy. So I love that.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And I think one thing that is so important is
like coming into this league to feel that you have
camaraderie and feel that you have support. And I think
one of the things that has really drawn so many
people to the two of you is because it felt
as if there has been an instant connection between you two,
but that's our appearance. We really don't know if that's
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the case. So I'm going to ask now for the
people who have been wanting to know forever, what was
it like building the chemistry between the two of you.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Like, how how did that happen? Was it through the.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Draft, was it through practice?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
How did that come about? Either one can go.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
I would say it happened very naturally, like it wasn't forced.
Sonya is a very easy person to talk to. I
thought she was really really quiet at first, which she
kind of is at the beginning, but has a great personality.
But I think there wasn't like one moment where it
just sparked. I think when we got on the court,
we kind of had a great flow, great chemistry. And
then off the court, we spend more time with each other.
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We had so many rookie events at the beginning, so
I think that probably really helped because we're spending a
lot of time with each other at the beginning. But
it was very natural, very easy, and I feel like
that's why it's transferting on the court.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, same, Sonya, no extra.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
I would definitely agree. I would say definitely did not
happen at the drafts.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
We rarely talked.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
I think I talked to her once and I was like, oh,
this girl's intimidating, like but I think it was also
we were just such high emotions like before we like
I talked to her for the first time before we
both knew we were going to the Mystic, so I
didn't know she was going to be my teammate.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
So definitely didn't happen there. But then I think once
we got here again, like he said, we've just been
spending so much time together because we're with each other
twenty four to seven.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
If it's not traveling, then it's practice. If it's not practice,
it's a game. Like it's there's always something And again,
like she said, he's a very easy person to get
along with and not only play with, but just hang
out with, talk with, and we're going through the same things.
So it's just it's really nice to have somebody that
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understands you and that can just help you through it,
because again, I think we're going through not just like struggles,
but similar experiences, you know, being a rookie, being a
rookie in this kind of way too.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
So it's just been been good to have it by
my son.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I don't know if you guys have realized it, but
the goat is here, so I have to yield the floor.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Because Sirle's here.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
What's up, ladies, let me get let me get all
of my excitement out, because y'all, I'm not very tech savvy.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I was about to ask.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
One of you two youngins to help me with this craziness.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
But welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
And I know Te already did the great intro, but
I want to say just very briefly that I am
a fan of both of you, super proud of how
y'all have just come in this league as rookies and said,
excuse me, but uh, we ain't new to this thing.
We true to this thing, y'all are falling. So congratulations
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on such a great season in so far.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
You're welcome. Tee. I have no idea what you asked
them already.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, no, we we have had a very casual conversation.
We've already established that Sonya's nickname is Sony, and when
I see her tomorrow, I don't want her to act
brand new now and I be.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Like, hey, girl, that nickname. Is that nickname for friends
and family?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
No it's not.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I think it's for teammates. So I've established that I'm
a part of the team.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Just for this time. I'm gonna say, are you family
or team name?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I've established that I'm I am, I'm part of the team,
just for this moment, and then I'll go back to
my corner.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I like, Sony and Kiki, what's your nickname? Short? That's
short enough, right, Sony and Kiki? Now do me do
me a favor.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Can you pronounce your your your literal first name?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Because I forgot. I think it was the All Star.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Game when you were introduced, they introduced you by your
first name, and I stood up and cheered.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I was like, y'all better say my girl.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Real name, say my name name. Please say your name
for our show so people.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Know, Yes, my full name is Eria fin.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
A Fin.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yes, So I'm gonna ask a question and thank you
for pronouncing that correctly, because I mean, my name ain't
that difficult. I don't think, but I've gotten everything from
swoops to swooper. I'm like, y'all, it's not that complicated
and sorry, and it pisses me.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Off when they get it wrong.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
So, like, I've heard your name from broadcasters pronounced a
gazillion different ways. Do you ever sometimes want to just
go over or before a game and be like, y'all,
this is how you pronounce my name.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Honestly, when I'm playing, I really don't hear my name called.
It's usually like our pr person who is like, you know,
they're saying your name wrong, and like we need to
fix this, so like me go into the broadcasters before
the game or something like that.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
Especially when I was in college, like that was a
big deal.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
They did not play about that.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
But yeah, when I'm playing, I really don't pay attention
to it's always after the fact that I'm like, uh,
that's not my name.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
If you're watching film back You're like, I'm about to
mute this because ain't.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
No way I'm like to listen to them say my
name like this, and do your parents ever say like, Kiki,
you need to get them to renounce your name correctly
or our name correctly.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
My dad he's like, they need to fix it. He's
texting me they need to fix that.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yes, I feel that. I feel that.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I feel that at one hundred percent. I feel at
one hundred percent. My name is Tarika and people tend
to say Terika Tyreka. I even had somebody call me Teriyaki. Y'all,
I'm not making that up. And I was that is
where I see what I'm saying. That's where I have
to draw on. I was like, now, y'all are doing
too much. My name is don't like nothing like Aiaki
like this is this is unacceptable. But I mentioned you
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guys being All Stars and so, first off, congratulations that
was an amazing honor.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Especially for rookie.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
But how was your All Star experience and just how
surprised were both of you to receive such an honor
so early in your career.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Sonya will start with.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
You, Wow, I mean I think All Star was amazing
It definitely was not something that I was expecting, so
I was very shocked when it happened, especially the way
the way that I found out. But I mean, the
weekend was it was great. I don't think I've ever
been that busy in my entire life. Those I was
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just going from one thing to another to another, like
and I'm not even some that glam gets all dressed up,
so it was it was a whirlwind, but it was amazing.
I think it was really cool to get a chance
to see the other players in the league, not in
the sense where I'm playing against them and I see
their competitive side, and I got to hang out with
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them and talk to them and just to see how
cool they were as people and just get to know them.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
So I thought that part was really cool. It was
an amazing experience.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Kiki. Did you guys get to hang out with stuff Butts?
Speaker 6 (24:22):
We were on stream a few times, but they're incredible.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Maybe not not not make the straight, but they are.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
They are the life of the party. They were so
much fun.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
And obviously, then like Sony mentioned, like we compete against them,
but we never get to really get to know their personality,
so it was so fun. You know, all the women
there the whole entire weekend, and everybody was super friendly.
I'm like, this is not how you treat me in
the game.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
So I was and and there, and they're they're not
supposed to. Well, they're not supposed to, right, right, So
I want to ask a question.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's very rare that I'm going to say three rookies
right with Georgia, But it's very rare that rookies come
into the league, or honestly any professional league for that matter,
and have the type of an impact that the two
of you are having on the Mystics so early on.
Two questions, Has that been surprising to you? And what's
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been the biggest adjustment for both of you going from
college to the w and Sonya you can go first.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
I I wouldn't say, like completely surprising, because I feel
like before the draft, when everybody was talking about the Mystics,
like my coaches were telling me like, oh, if you
went there, like there's opportunity there, you know, like you'll
get a chance to to prove yourself and.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Do what you do. So I wouldn't say it was
entirely surprising. I think how well it's translated.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Yes, I wouldn't have expected that, But I do think
that coming to Washington, the best thing about that was
not only the people, but the opportunity that me and
Kiki get to to actually play, because I think that's
a huge thing. There's so many talented players, talented rookies,
but they just don't get that chance to really prove themselves.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
So I think that was that was huge.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
So I wouldn't say I'm like totally surprised, but definitely
like a little bit, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, And what's been the biggest What's been the biggest
adjustment for you?
Speaker 5 (26:47):
I would definitely say, uh, the handling, the physicality, and
then also just the speed at which you have to
make decisions, just because everything happens so fast and if
you don't, like, you'll just miss it if you missed
that split second. Like you really just have to see
things almost before they happen, just because everybody is so
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it's so good.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I would say that. So those two, those two things.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Now I'm about to talk about Cheryl for being late,
because I didn't already ask yall to a.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Just miss questions. You see what happens, See what happens
when you be late? Okay, so don't don't answer that part.
But other part they're probably like, day, where do you
answer this?
Speaker 7 (27:29):
Yes, I was surprised just because my situation was a
little bit different from Sony. There was a lot of
people ahead of me, so I felt like training camp
I was fighting for my life. Like I was like,
I'm gonna come out of this and my coaches are
going to be forced to have to play me, And
that's that's the extent of what it was. I didn't
know if I was going to be starting. I didn't
know if I'd played twenty plus minutes, but I'm like,
I want I'm gonna I'm not getting a DMP, Like,
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my coaches are going to play me every single game.
So I think for me, it was just being relentless
in training camp, really showing that I wasn't scared of anybody,
and just having the confidence and I really showcase that
in our preseason games as well, which gave my coaches
a confidence like Okay, she can compete at this level.
But yeah, I think it was honestly exciting for me
to leave college and I didn't leave college the way
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I would have liked to, so to leave college and
come to the league and kind of have a reset
and be like I get to decide how I want
this story to go and how I want this chapter
to go, and I get to decide how I want
to enter the w NBA. So I think I just
put my head down and I was like, I'm gonna
work super hard, I'm gonna leave nothing up the chance,
and I'm gonna like take whatever I want. And I
feel like that has helped me kind of have success
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and have impact afterimastics.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I love that, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
So I know that you guys gotta gotta get to
shoot around and get and wrap up really quick. So
before we go, I just want to do a quick
little rapid fire with the both of you. Just have
a little bit of fun. Okay, So first one, what's
your go to pregame like hype song? Like what's the
what's the what's what's in? What's on the os when
you're when you're getting ready for the game.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
I don't really listen to music that much.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
What that?
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Yeah, I know, I know, Well, I feel like play
music in the locker room. So I just listened to
their music because it's on the speaker. But afrobeats always
hypes me up.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I like, look at Kiki, not in her heads. That's
the one that's.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Not when we get when we get to burn a
boy playing tomorrow. I don't say that.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
For me. I would say gospel music.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
It doesn't really matter. I just put it on shuffle.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
But kind of I'm like a very energetic and ra person,
so that allows me to like a little like calm
down a little.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Bit like wow on the court.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Oh my god. Okay, here's another one for you.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
What's been your favorite city to visit so far in
the w NBA and why is it Connecticut?
Speaker 7 (29:59):
I'm Connectic, but I would say Chicago has been really fun.
Where we stay is really pretty, and there's a lot
of shops and we've got to spend a good amount
of time in Chicago. So Chicago's mine.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Okay, I want to say the same thing. I would say, though,
I am excited to go to Connecticut for the pizza.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
That's fair. That's fair.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
After the game, for sure.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
That's fair. She's probably going to Frank Pepe and get
some pizza.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
I get it exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Connecticut pizza.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Oh, Connecticut has a sign that says we're the pizza
capital of the world. Don't don't even get me started.
I don't know about that even yeah, Connecticut, I don't
know about that.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I'm just that's just what they say.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Okay, okay, two more really quick.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
One.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Who's the funniest teammate in the locker room?
Speaker 6 (30:52):
So different? We have different characters funny.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I don't think the funniest though, but you always make
people laugh.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
I think this is a very funny team. Everybody's funny.
Speaker 7 (31:07):
I can believe that we're like young, so everything is
like goofy like step like keep us in check all
the time. She's like lock in, like we're not supposed
to be playing around right now.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
See Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Last one, what is your must have on a road trip? Like,
no matter what's going on, I gotta have this when
we're going somewhere.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Macha late.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Say a lot. Gotta travel with a latee.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
You gotta travel a lot to know because I'm going
to get me a coffee. Gotta travel with a latte
because I'm going to get me some coffee.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
As soon as we've.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Done, Oh my god, ladies, this has been great. I
wish we had more time, but I do understand that
you guys have to get to shoot around. But my guy,
it's so fun to uh to talk to you guys
and to have you guys.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
On the show.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
And I mean again, I got three, I got future
goats and the real goal right here in front of me.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
So I'm a lucky one really, Any last words.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Cheryl, Now, I just want to say to both of you,
first of all, thank you for joining us. And like
T said, I really wish we had more time because
I had a whole lineup of stuff we were going
to discuss. But I just want to say to both
of you, keep doing what you're doing. Listen, it only
says rookie, but both of you are playing like season
vets in this league already. Keep doing what you're doing
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because there are a lot of young girls out there
who are watching you and want to be just like
the both of you.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
And congrats on such a great season so far.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Thank thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Thanks ladies, have a great day.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Thank you, thank you guys.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Cheryol, that's what a guy.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
We could have kept talking to Kiki and Sonya all day.
I know they had to get to shoot around with Steve.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Like Phil, it was so many things I didn't even
get a chance to think about. I got.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I had a long, long, long list of questions for them.
But for those of you who are wondering, like if
this is real and if we're recording live and all
the things, Yeah, so like internet does what it wants
to do, so you know, my internet was doing what it.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
But I will tell you I'm a huge fan both
Sonia ki Key and I always think about what, like
what my relationship would have been like with other rookies
had I been drafted as a rookie, because that's another
thing I think we at some point need to do
kind of like a history lesson on like when the
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w started, like you know, for sure, Gret, like, we
didn't have a draft, so I wasn't drafted. But anyway,
I love the relationship that the two of them have
as rookies.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Now are we considered friends or family? So we get
to call Sonya Sony.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I saw Sony at the game because they played Connecticut
the very next day.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And when I walked out of the court, I saorry
she saw me.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
She behaved instantly, smiled instantly, and I said hey Sony,
and she started cracking up and she said, ah, so
it is what it is, y'all. Anybody out there that's
in their feelings being your feelings, because I'm I'm clearly,
I'm clearly family now, it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
We We'm not.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
I'm not, you know, let me tell you, let me
tell you something. You can do whatever it is you
want to do.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Because I wish one of these players would be like
Cheryl kid call me Sony.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
That is the only reason.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Wow, that's the only reason why I was like, wait
a minute, I don't worry about gonna do what she.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Want to do. It ain't nobody gonna tell her.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Now.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Some people might try, but it ain't gonna matter whatever.
I'm gonna do what I want to do anyway. So yeah,
I love those two.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
And you know, next year their sophomore season and then
getting Georgia Amore back.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Washington's Washington's gonna be nice.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
It's gonna be alright. All right, Cheryl, what you got
for us today? As we level this thing on off.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Well I told you in the beginning.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
It kind of goes along what we were talking about
on surface level. So it says, when you learn how
much you're worth, you'll stop giving people discounts.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Let me say one more time. Yeah, one more time.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
When you learn how much you're worth, you'll stop giving
people discounts.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Mm hm m m hm hm hm hm.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
I don't even want to say nothing after that because
I read that and I was like, oh, thank you
for reminding me.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I feel like I feel like that right there, that
that just checked me. That like, that just checked me.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
So that was put me in check for me because
I don't be sticking to these boundaries. That's the next
show topic.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, to talk about boundaries and sticking to them, not
just setting stick to them. I'm writing that down right now,
so we don't forget. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I like setting boundaries because this right here, I set
them and I don't stick with them and people get
more out of me than they probably deserve.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I got to growl Okay, yeah, done, that's it. I
got it. That's it. That's it. It's a wrap, all right,
seaw We appreciate you hanging out with us.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Thank you guys so much for continuing to listen to
Levels of this Podcast. Please continue to show us love
you guys know that you can always hit us up
and email us at Levels of This Podcast at gmail
dot com. You can definitely follow us on Instagram. You
need to be following us on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah, and that's at LTTPOD.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Please let us know what you thought about today's show
and if you have some topics that you would love
to discuss or consider, throw those out because remember, this
isn't just our show, it is our show, so we
love to know what y'all are thinking about and talking about.
But with all of that being said, please remember to
keep your mentals ground level and we will be.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Back next week with more Next Level conversation. Peace out,
y'all us
Speaker 1 (37:35):
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