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November 27, 2025 41 mins

On this episode of Levels to This, Sheryl Swoopes and Terrika Foster-Brasby give Thanksgiving the respect it deserves. From the must-have dishes on their plates — dressing (not stuffing), mac and cheese, collard greens, yams, ham, and even chitlins — to the foods they refuse to negotiate on, the two break down the traditions that make the holiday what it is. It’s funny, it’s honest, and it might just start a debate at your own Thanksgiving table. And of course, they level up by sharing what they're thankful for. Which includes YOU, our listeners! Don't forget to enter the $1000 Giveaway! Check @LTTPod on IG for more.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Levels to This is an iHeart women's sports production in
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hey, what's going on? Everybody? Is your girl? Serrika Fosta Brassby.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
What's up, y'all? Is your girls?

Speaker 4 (00:21):
Cheryl's foods?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hey? And this is the levels to this podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
This is the show where we share that it's levels
to the ship that women go through. And we have
such a great show lined up today just in time
for the holidays.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
But first, sure we got to catch up girl. It's
been a minute.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
How are you well? I mean, I wasn't going on
a cruise.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
So Tommy, listen, Oh god, it's here.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
You know what's so crazy is I used to like
when I was younger.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I couldn't get enough of cruises. I was like, cruise
after cruise after cruise.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
And I don't think it's because I've gotten older that
I no longer take them. But it's all the things
that I read and I see and I hear, and
I'm like, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
I don't want to be in the middle of no ocean,
no water like that. So I don't. I don't do
cruises no more. I'd rather be in the middle of
the ocean than be here in America dealing with forty
seven crazy ass But anyway, but anyway, I.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Can't even argue what you can see what I'm saying.
Maybe I should just go be in the middle of
the ocean.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Just come down in the middle of the land.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
I'm living vicariously through you. I am. I had such
a great time on her and it was very different.
So I'm taking three cruises this year. I already took
one in July. This was my second, and my last
one will be for New Years. My mother is turning
fifty seven. She has never been on a cruise before.
I do love that. And it is her and her

(01:51):
birthdays on New Year's Day, so she wanted to take
a cruise for her birthday, and so that's what we're doing.
So it's really good that every cruise that I've done
has been a different experience.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
The summer cruise was seven days.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
I had never done seven days before, so I was like,
I don't know how this is gonna work, But seven
days was great. This past cruise, I just went to Mexico.
I had never been to Cozumils, so was this one.
So this one was five days. We left out of Tampa.
We only did one port, which was Cosumil, Mexico, and
I had I only do carnivals, so I had never

(02:26):
been on Paradise. It's a little bit of an older ship,
but it was so much fun. And this is also
my first time cruising in the fall like I usually
do summer, So being in the fall was a little
bit of a different experience too, because number one, it
wasn't a million people on the boat, and I appreciated that,
like it was space. Yeah, I low sis. In the summer,

(02:48):
it it'd be a thousand people on a boat, you
get that can't even breathe. And I'm saying that's true.
And again the I can't remember how old or how
young I was the last time I took a cruise.
I know I was was the best. Oh God, it's
you've got to come back.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
I do have to er. You got to come back.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
You gotta come back.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
You got back, You got to, you got to.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
You can't blame it, speaking of bitch, speaking of singing,
I actually was on stage and contact I saw it.
The guess that groove and your girls want to winning team,
and I was like, period, I know my music. I
said something about it.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
If I didn't get that right, I was gonna get
my black car to revoke Black Girl.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
I was the fresh Prince of Barreler, so my husband
is from West Philadelphia. If I didn't get that right,
I would have been divorced. And you've got to shut
it down. One of my favorite shows.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I'm telling you it's so good.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Have you ever checked out the newer one, the one
that's been out mostly?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Uh uh, it's actually really good. I think this is
gonna be the final season.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
You like, you would like it? I would?

Speaker 3 (04:03):
You are right? So, yeah, it's something I should binge
watch on Thanksgiving Day. You should hold after you've cooked,
after you've eaten. Well, no, I do all my cooking
the day before. So oh you're cooking on Wednesday? Yeah, okay, yeah,
because I ain't doing shit on Thursday. Okay, okay, okay, Well,

(04:24):
given that this episode is gonna come out on Thursday, yeah,
I just want to Also, Oh, I'm nevermind, I'm gona
wait till later. I'm a wait till later. But I
do what I do. No, no, no, you didn't do anything.
I did something, but I'm gonna tell you later, Okay.
So I just want all of our fans to know
that listen, this is our Thanksgiving episode. We know that

(04:47):
Thanksgiving is this great November American holiday, and I'm so
sick of people who be trying to prioritize Christmas over Thanksgiving.
And you know what, I actually have to sit down
and think about this, shirl. I was like, why in
the world do people just want to skip over Thanksgiving?
And I figured it out. I think it's the commercialism
because as soon as Halloween is over, the first thing
everybody do was put up all this.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Christmas stuff in their stores.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
And Christmas is more of like a global holiday, Like
everybody in the world at some point celebrate Christmas because
of the whole religious connotation to it, the background, the
actual like it is actually supposed to be celebrating the
birth of Jesus. And Thanksgiving is really just some American shit,
Like everybody over the world ain't really celebrating Thanksgiving, like
that's some stuff that we do. They ain't got no
way to make money off of it, they don't have

(05:31):
no way to really commercialize it. I mean outside of
people buying stuff in groceries like like the grocery stores
selling out. It's just no real reason for retailers to
make any money. And I think that's why they'd be
trying to disrespect Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
And I don't like it.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
That's a very very very good point, and I don't
like it. You know, you and I talked a little
bit about it too.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
I don't celebrate Thanksgiving like I used to, like when
I was younger, and you know, my mom was doing
all that cooking and all the things, because you know,
I was raised to think Thanksgiving was one thing.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
And as I've gotten older and wiser and smarter and
learned my history on my own, it ain't what we
thought it was. To eat his in her own. I
will cook right because we got to eat, period. I
don't care what day it is, so I won't be
doing the cooking.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
But yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
The one that sends all the happy Thanksgiving messages and
images and quotes and all those things to people.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
So yeah, that ain't me. But I do want to
say this before we move on.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
So you were on a cruise, and my kiddo, so
I've been emotional, Okay, because this will be ain't even
about Thanksgiving, but this will be my very first Christmas
with my grandson that I want have my grandson. My
son Jordan just left to go play in Tunisia. Wow,

(07:09):
he is in North Africa and his whole little family
is with him.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
So I've been I've been a little emotional one because
that's my baby. Jordan's my baby, but my grandson's my baby,
and you know, I.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Had all these great, amazing plans.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
For him for Christmas and now yeah makes me sad,
but I'm happy for him and I'm happy for Jordan.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
But also, is there any possibility of maybe sneaking into
Tunisia to surprise the baby or Christ? Well, I mean
if I was gonna sneak, I can't say it on here.
It wouldn't be a surprise. I mean no, I ain't
saying like you're actually gonna do it, but I'm saying,
is it.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
A possibility, like could you like is it something that
could happen?

Speaker 1 (07:54):
And it's a possibility because I believe if everything goes
as plays like, he'll be there until May.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Like that's a long time.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
That's a long time.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I gotta get my son fixed. I gotta get my
grandson fit. Yeah, so yeah, there's a possibility. And you
know you and I were talking about a girl's trip.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
You can come with me, that's true.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
But see the same thing though, I'm literally leaving two
days later to go to my on the cruise with
my mama for her birthday. You don't know where I'm going.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, I thought you said Christmas.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
I didn't say I was going for a Christmas. You
put that out there.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
I did. I put that energy in the asphere I did.
That was me. I did it. Now.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I'm so happy for him though I miss him, but
I'm happy that he's living his dream and he's still
he's still hooping.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
So great season.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
That is awesome. And when did he leave again?

Speaker 3 (08:54):
He left like three days ago? Oh okay, So that
also means that he gonna be celebrating Thanksgiving in Tunisia.
Eat all that good African food while you're over there, Jordan,
because the rice.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
The jow off.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
So he uh, yeah, I am really sure what they're
doing on Thanksgiving. So I'm just saying I don't. I
don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Sure is not okay with this trip, I'm really not.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I'm really really not. But but I gotta make myself
be okay. You know, like he has grown. He's thirty
years old in July, so I mean, excuse me, Dang,
I never forgot my son's birthday. About the bay it is,
and the baby was born in July, so that's why

(09:41):
I said July.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
But oh my god. Well, you know what, guess what
we're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
What we're gonna do on this episode to talk about
all the food that Jordan ain't gonna eat.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
So we're finna take this thing to the next level.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Churel, we have often talked about how disrespectful people are
to Thanksgiving, and so we just felt like it was
pretty much a good idea to dedicate a show to
the awesomeness of Thanksgiving, because you know, you know what's
crazy is as much as I love this holiday, not

(10:28):
my favorite Halloween, it's my favorite, but I love it.
I love the football, I love the family aspect. But
this year is gonna be a little bit different for
me because I'm really trying to keep my weight loss
goals in tact, and I'm going home to visit my mother.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, good luck and good luck my mama.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Not going my mama not trying to hear what I
need you to use this almond milk?

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Can we use this low fat butter? My mama don't
give a damn about none of that.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
She's gonna make them dumplings in them chiplin's, the way
she's been making them dumplings in them chiplins for the
last sixty years.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I don't know what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Uh, good luck with that. Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I just always say. Okay, so you know Thanksgiving is
coming up. You know you go into your mama's house,
and you already know what that's gonna be like. So
prior to, let's just say a week prior to, that's
when you need to be on your best behavior, right,
don't be don't be eating all the stuff that you
should be so you can do it when you go

(11:34):
to mama's.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
I don't know, I'm gonna just say it.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
I don't know how anybody anybody has some kind of
little diet or not eat come Thanksgiving. Now, let me
let me say this because I know there there are people,
there are people who don't celebrate Thanksgiving. I will say
that Thanksgiving for me has changed over the.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Years as I have really try to educate myself on
the meaning of like all the holidays. It's not just Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
So I don't like spend time doing all the craziness, right,
like heavy Thanksgiving and all of that. But I do
enjoy cooking, and I enjoy cooking because that's when my
family comes over, you know, my friends come over, and.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Like you said, Tee, it's just a good time to
get with family and watch whatever sports are going on.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Football, basketball, I don't know what else is going on.
But I really really really look forward to spending the
time with family.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
But you better. You got to eat when you go
to your mama's, So good luck with that since you
act like I ain't gonna eat when I get there,
I'm going, do.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
You hear me?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
As soon as I get off the plane on Thanksgiving morning?

Speaker 2 (12:59):
So I'm getting there, I ain't. I ain't. I ain't even.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Fixed my mouth to tell my mama that because it
would just be nonsense, Like it's just be nonsense.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
When I get home, I.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Will go and buy what I need for whatever it
is that I plan on using it for at that moment.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
So like I'm gonna get some almond milk so that
I can use it for my coffee.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
But in terms of cooking, Mamma gonna look at me
like I'm crazy if I tell her to put some
almond milk in this mac and cheese. Yeah I would too,
Who mac and cheese?

Speaker 2 (13:29):
You gonna put that shit in? Put that in?

Speaker 3 (13:35):
A girl, you better get on the plane and go
back home. Trying to ruin my mac and cheese. About
to take your hands back to cook that again, because
I ain't nobody gonna eat that.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
I was, what the only now Here's the thing though, Cheryl.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
She will, however, alter her greens for Greg because Greg
doesn't mean okay, she that's easy. So she will cook
her greens with turkey. She put her greens with turkey
for everybody else get the regular neck bones or ham out,
whatever is she putting in it. But I said, oh,
so you will alter your food for him, but you

(14:08):
won't alter the food for me.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Of course, that's.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
What you know, that's what That's what moms do at times.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
But you know, I'm not mad at her because my
husband and I don't eat pork either. So every time
I make greens, it is it's smoked turkey. A girl,
it tastes just the same, and it might taste it better.
Tastes good, it might it might taste better.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah, now whatever, Oh, you're making me hungry just thinking
about it.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Okay, well listen, since since you're talking about food and
and what what you're gonna eat and what your mama cooking?

Speaker 2 (14:43):
What are your I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Say five, what are your top five like must have
on Thanksgiving Day that you cannot go without?

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Okay, I must have dressing, not stuffing. Hello, I need
hello here to know the difference. I must have dressing.
I must have mac and cheese. I must have sweet

(15:16):
and sata pie, must have pie. Folks, ain't finna fuck
with me on this one, but I'm gonna say it anyway,
and y'all can judge your mama. I'm getting some chickings.
It's happening. It's happening. And sauce it's happening. It's going down.
I'm smashing. So that that's that's four dishes.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
You got one more the hot sauce, No camp you got,
you got you got one hot sauce, no count no
more no, because we gotta put hot sauce on everything.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Got to put hot sauce on the whole plate.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
And now this right here is probably not common, but
in my household, I grew up with it, and so
I wanted every Thanksgiving. But my mom always gets a
honey baked ham, and I love And I know people
go for turkey and their meat or chicken or whatever,
and that's fine.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I know it.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Like I like a turkey, but it's not a mus half.
I survive a Thanksgiving without a turkey. But I got
to have some ham. I gotta have some ham. I
give you that, and that's my size.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Well, we don't do pork, so I'm gonna put ham,
all right, So two of them, I'm there with you,
two of them.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
I'm there with you.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I gotta have my corn bread dressing, not stuffing. Do
not ask me if I had stuffing, because the answer
is no.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
I don't do stuffing. It is cornbread dressing all.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Day, the mac and cheese one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
And I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
People might get mad at me too, And like you said,
to be mad at your mama, don't be mad at me.
But I gotta have my mac and cheese with eggs.
I gotta have the eggs in my mac.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
And cheese.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, something's gonna be like what eggs and mac and cheese. Listen,
don't knock it till you try. If you haven't tried it,
try it. Yes, I gotta have I got to have
my eggs in my mac and cheese. I gotta have
my collar greens, collar greens. Gotta have my greens, my
collar greens.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
That's my third one, my fourth one. A plate is
not a plate without your candy yams. I gotta have
my candy yam yam. Where you didn't, so you you
got your five.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
I didn't, but I said sweet potato pote, so there
was go ahead. So that's four. And my fifth one.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Okay, So the gravy and the hot sauce and the
cranberry sauce that don't count. That all that all just
comes on the side, right, that don't count. And my
fifth one for me, So you When I was younger,
it used to be well, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Some people say pekan, some people say put.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Coan, some people say but cong So I'm saying pa
com pie. That's I was younger, But as an adult,
my go to dessert on Thanksgiving and Christmas is buttermilk.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Pie. I got to have my buttermilk pie. Yes, wait
a minute, what is buttermilk Okay, now fill me in
on this. What is buttermilk pie?

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Wait, wait, you've never had buttermilk pie.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
I never even heard of buttermilk pie. Okay.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
So here's the thing. So I cook, but I don't bake.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
I buy my Okay, I buy my.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Buttermilk pie from this little hole in the wall place
down the street from my house. Girl. And when I
tell you, when I tell you, t.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
You' from Detroit. You never had buttermilk pan.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Shot, never even heard of buttermilk pie, you know, my
family from Columbus, Georgia. So they get down. I ain't
never heard of no buttermilk path, and I don't. I
don't make it, but you try. Hold on, I'm gonna
tell you that I tell you the ingredients in it
because I don't make it. I just eat it.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Okay, hold on, I'm about to tell you because I
just looked it up for you to tea think of. Okay,
so this says it says think of cram brew let,
but so much easier. So y'all, I don't bake. I
don't bake. I eat buttermokpie is a traditional Southern dessert

(19:26):
that goes back for generations but most likely originated in England.
As far as it tastes, typically, when you think of pie,
you might envision a delicious fruit filling.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Not here.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
A butterm of pie has a simple, custard like filling
thanks to eggs, buttermilk and sugar.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
That's what you got, Wow, teat, just try it, Try
it one time. Sis, I'm to ask tell you, Mama,
tell you.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
To make your money. Tell you I'm gonna make your.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Cry before I be like it's grace. I'm gonna tell it.
But I'm let me tell you to make you have
like a custardy kind of taste to it.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Oh okay, no, No, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I also.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Think it depends on like who makes it. That's why
I only go to one place to get mine because it.
I will tell you this though, it is really really,
really sweet. And with my type two.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Diabetes, Lord knows, I don't need all the sweets, but
I make an exception on Thanksgiving Day.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, but I would.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
It doesn't really, it doesn't really have a custard taste.
It's just it's really it's really rich and sweet. Okay,
but it's so good and then the crust gotta be
just right too.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I'm definitely gonna check it out because gotta be brown.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Uh yeah, like not not not burn but good and brown.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
That's where you know, that's where you know it's read
to eat.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Okay, I'm a try.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
I'm definitely, I'm definitely going to look into this because
I ain't never heard of a bottle mc pap. But
you know what, my mom also mad because she and
you and I are kind of opposite on that. Like
I know how to cook, so I don't mind cookie,
but I prefer to bake. Like I just had a
we just had a fum. One of my undergrads just

(21:20):
did a baked sale last week. And I'm up here
supposed to be packing for my cruise and I'm sitting
up here baking chocolate.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Chip cookies and sugar cookies and shit, like what am
I like? Did you take them on your posis? What
are we doing? So? I like, bacon? Did you take
the dessert? The cruise can sell all over? Didn't even
keep a sleeple cookie? But I also eight about three
of them while I was making them.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
So yeah, of course you did. That's what you're supposed
to do. But the point is, I got a recipe
that I am going to send to you. And I
know you say that you're not a baker, but I
got this the people my mom who's had it for years.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
But it's called a friendship cake. Never tell you about this, MM.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Have I heard?

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (22:10):
So anship cake it takes thirty days to make. You
start off with like this little liquid. It's like it's
like a little liquid that is like a pineapple juice,
then some other like juices, and then every day you
stir it and you add another ingredients. So eventually you'll

(22:33):
add your sugar, and then eventually your add your Maraschino cherries,
eventually your add your actual pineapple chunks, and you'll add
a bunch of stuff. So by the time you get
to the thirty days, you'll have a full picture of
like of like a starter is what we call it.
And you add it to your cake batter and that's
how and when you when you make it, you use

(22:54):
the pan that has like the hole in the middle
so that you can you know, so it's got like that.
I don't know what a pants called but it's a
like a butt, and it's a butt like a bunt pan. Ye, yes,
it is deep delicious. Now when people see it, they
instantly think that it could possibly be fruitcake. But it's

(23:14):
not fruitcake. And it doesn't even taste like fruitcake. It
actually tastes closer to a rum cake than a fruitcake.
Not if you got all of them fruits and it
is a fruitcake. It it is not a fruitcake. It
is delicious.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Are you saying every day you add a new ingredient
to it, a.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Different add something to it and you yep, you add
something to it and then you stir it. You have
to stir it every single day, okay?

Speaker 1 (23:44):
You and then what you put it in your fridge.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
And that's it. Nope, you don't put in the fridge
reator at all. It sits on your counter for thirty days.
It just for thirty days.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
No man, tee, I'm not doing that. Yep, yes you
you you absolutely should do it. If you can eat
buttermilk cake, you can't eat.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
This ca No, no, no, because buttermilk buttermilk cake got
three ingredients in it.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
You're talking you're less sugar than what you eat it? Well,
give me the sugar.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
I don't want to different ingredients. You add ingredients is
like cherries, strawberries. You add walnuts to it at some point.
The main things that you're adding is it's called a
friendship cake. I have the recipe and I'm going to

(24:42):
send it to you because it is the bombay.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Tell me what you called a friendship cake.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
It's called a friendship cake because you literally are supposed
to once you have the start, once you have the
the main juices put together, you you save a little
piece of it.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
You saved like little You could.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Probably get like a little basin jar or something like
that to put some of the starter in, and then
you share it with a friend, because that's how they
start their cake. Like, you can't start the cake without
the starter, and you can only get the starter from
someone who's currently baking the cake, So you have to
share it from friend to friend in order to be
able to get the starter to make the cake. I'm

(25:25):
still your friend, but I'm saying I'm gonna bring it
right to your damn dough.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
I'm not gonna cheryl. Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Okay, that's interesting, I'll try it.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
But question, question for you, Question for you, do you
have the same meal for Christmas that you do for Thanksgiving?

Speaker 3 (25:54):
That's a good question. I switch up some things, like
I don't. I don't have all of the same thing. See,
this is the problem in black households. We eat a
lot of the same shit anyway. So it's like it's
which is which is why I didn't say yams for Thanksgiving,
because like I can have yams on Tuesday, so it's

(26:16):
like it's not a musk, but it's a much for me.
On Thanksgiving, I will cook the cook girl.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
I cook greens every day almost, but those are still
my musk on on Thanksgiving Day and Christmas Day.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
I think some things that I might switch out.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
It's like I am not a mashed potato girl on Thanksgiving.
Like I can go to Applebee's and get mashed potatoes.
Like it's not like there are some people who really
love and enjoy mashed potatoes on Thanksgiving, and I'm just like,
what are we doing here? I think mashed potatoes is
probably acceptable for Christmas, so like I could see that

(26:55):
for Christmas if you want potatoes in that way, But
like I'm gonna take the yams at Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
I'm not about to run to get the mashed.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Potatoes or you know, I think, what is that nasty
thing that that's so nasty?

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Green bean casserole?

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Ell yeah, no, no, no, no, no, I don't like
that either.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Now I enjoy green beans, like green yeah with white potatoes.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, you know, you.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Know what I mean, Like you don't eat green beans
with the potatoes and them. No, no, no, I'm still yucking
your green bean casserole is Oh, green bean casserole is disgusting.
But I do enjoy green beans, and so I would
probably substitute collar greens at Christmas for green beans.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Ain't no substitution that.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Thanksgiving I need colar greens and Thanksgiving, but for Christmas,
I might do green beans. So like that's what I
try to do, like substitute something one thing for the other.
So that is not exactly the same. But for the
most part, we eating the same shit. Black people eat
the same shit every ourday. Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
We eat the same shit.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
You know what I tiped do though, is like I
I love brisket, so for Christmas we do a brisket.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
I'm just over turkey, Like I don't have to have turkey,
Like we're we're in the rule book. Does it say
on Thanksgiving you you have to have a turkey.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
I'm just saying, I'm I'm over turkey. I'm just over. No,
I'm over. I'm good.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Give me a brisket, I like, I like, I like,
give me some fried chicken.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
I'm good. Oh, I ain't got to have turkey. I don't.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
I know that's right.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
So so here's the other thing too, that I think
it's important for us to share Thanksgiving, Christmas, whatever holiday
it is, but specifically around this time, people tend to
also as much as they enjoy family, they understand that
they're family members who are missing. And so I didn't
want to end this podcast or come to the close

(28:55):
of this podcast without you know, saying, it is incredibly
difficult to enjoy the holidays sometimes if you recently lost someone,
or if someone who is typically there isn't there. You know,
I lost my father around Christmas, and so Christmas never
hits the same. The month of December just never hits
the same because of that. But while there may be

(29:18):
holiday blues, I just want people to know that you
can always find something positive to focus on, and that
is usually the people who are still around people who
are still there. So if you've got children, you've got grandchildren,
if you've got sisters, brothers, and even people that are
family that aren't blood, you know, find ways to celebrate

(29:40):
those who are still living, still breathing, still around that
you can still create and make memories with, and not
so much focus on those who are no longer with us.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I mean, I think there are sometimes people find.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
It really difficult to get into the holiday spirit because
of that, but they're not alone. There are so many
people who go through the high they blues, but fine there.
I am confident that there are those who would love
to celebrate with you and make you smile and build
positive memories with you that you know, don't sit in

(30:12):
your phone too long, is what I'm trying to say. Yeah, listen,
I don't really care when you've lost a loved one.
I lost my mom.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Man, seems like it was yesterday, but I lost my
mom over ten years ago. And you know, holidays just
don't hit the same mother's day, birthday, her birthday, my birthday,
because you always think about and remember, you know, the
things that.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
You used to do together. And Thanksgiving is really a
hard one for me because it was always we went
to Mama's house and Mama did all the cooking, and
you know, and I help, But and Christmas the same,
So you know, I totally agree with you. It is hard,
but I do know that our loved ones wouldn't want
us to sit and be sad and miserable all day.

(31:02):
So make sure you are surrounding yourself with loved ones
and people that you can laugh with and smile with,
and cry with.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
And celebrate, because that's what holidays are all about.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
So sure, I have a confession to make, make it.
I make my mother.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
I call my mother. And again for those of you
listening who may not.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Know my backstory, my mother who I call my mother,
not the mother that I'm going on a cruise with.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
That's my biological mother.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
The mother who I call my mother who raised me,
is actually my great grandmother. She's ninety five years old
from Columbus, Georgia, very southern. And so I called my
mama and I said, Mama sorton told me about this,
buttermilk pie, and I fell away because why don't I
know about this? Buttermk Pie?

Speaker 2 (32:10):
And here she go what she said?

Speaker 3 (32:12):
She goes talking about, Oh yeah, girl, you don't remember
Mama Lidsey not caught backstory. Mama Lizzie is her mother
in law, which would have been my great great grandmother, who.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
I absolutely knew.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
She said, you don't remember Mama Lizzy used to make them,
buttermilk pass used to make them all the time. And
I'm like, well, mom, I was five. No, I don't
remember these guys remember.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
And I don't know, and I don't remember what it
was remember.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
But she made me feel dumb and say, I was
talk about ye.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Ma'am, No, I don't remember the East.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
She said, well yeah. So I said, well, well, you
ain't make me no but past, she said, because you
ain't never asked for one.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Well, ma'am, I didn't know it existed.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Did you ask for one?

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Persolutely asked one? Okay, And I have a confession. When
you're done with yours.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
I'm done.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
I just want you to know that you're not crazy.
It does exist, and if I wasn't, I don't need you.
I was like, I just want to let you know
you're not crazy. You're not already knew I wasn't crazy.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
You.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
On the other hand, I was like, how the hell
does she not know about it?

Speaker 2 (33:15):
But well I know. Now, I know.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Okay, So here's my confession. So the friendship cake, right
that what we call it?

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yes, well, I was in the store the other day
and I know it wasn't a friendship cake, but it was.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
It was actually a what is a fruitcake?

Speaker 2 (33:32):
A fruitcake? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:34):
But so I'm looking at it and I'm thinking about
our conversation. Huh, And I was just like, how is
a friendship cake different from a fruit cake?

Speaker 2 (33:49):
It is different. So I'm just.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Letting you know that I still think you're crazy. I
just want you to know. I'm putting this in a
camera right now. Body can see. This is the recipe
for the friendship cake. That's how you know it's oh
my mom, and I put a step one, step two,
step three, step four, and then to make cake. So

(34:14):
it's all of the like it's can I get I'm
gonna take these im.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yep. It is not bad.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
And I'm telling you it is so good that I
literally can eat the entire cake. Like I don't even
get regular slices, you know, you just get a regular
slice of cake.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I get, like.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
An it's ridiculous. It's so good. All right, I need
I'm to send you the recipe. So, but before before
we have you level us up. Yeah, I just need
to know this Thanksgiving season, what are you thankful for? Oh?
So many things?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
You know.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
What's crazy is I always like, I try to be
thankful every day, right, but this Thanksgiving season for me
the obvious, I'm thankful for my life, my health, all
those things.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
I am really thankful that I have a grandson.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yes, like I have a grandson that I now can
spoil and send home to.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
His parents. I don't know, you know, I have And
I always.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Heard people say that the love you have for a
grandchild is different from the love you have for your
own child.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
And it's crazy because.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
It is, like, I know that already, and I'm just
thankful that I actually get a chance to.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Like I wasn't a perfect parent. I don't think any
of us are.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
But I'm thankful that I have an opportunity to like
fix fix the things that I didn't do so well
with Jordan.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yes, I can hopefully do those things with my grandson.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
What I think that, I love that I am thankful
for obviously all of the basics, right for sure, Thankful
for family, for friends, for you know, for you, for
the show, for sure, all of those things right, for
career for sure. But if there's a thing that I

(36:31):
probably have to say that I'm really thankful for this
year more than any year is I am very thankful
to be in my right mind. And I say that
because mental health is a real thing that people deal with,
and this year I feel like my friends closest to
me have dealt with a lot, from depression to anxiety

(36:52):
to like all sorts of things that have really hit them,
and folks that have had to deal with with the
pressures of everything going on in the world, laws changing,
losing insurance, like all of that, And in my head,
I'm just like, girl, how blessed are you that not
only have you not had to really deal with any

(37:14):
of that, but like you don't really have to deal
or overcome with some of these similar mental hurdles and
challenges that some of your friends have to deal with.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
You wake up every day just happy and thankful and
just today is today? Like today is today?

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Right? Like something has to happen in my day for
me to wake up, for me to be upset. Yeah,
I gotta just wake up in the morning depressed or
sad or upset or whatever. And I'm really thankful for
that because everyone just does not get.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
That, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (37:44):
So, yeah, you're right, because you know there are so
many people girl, you know me, you got tears of eyes.
I mean, there's so many people though that wake up
angry angry? Are they wake up.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Sad or I don't know?

Speaker 1 (38:02):
And you know what, we all got our ship we're
going through right now, every single one of us. So
I think I know that's a good one. But like
you said, I'm thankful for all the basic things, right, Yeah,
all the things that God blesses me with every single day.
But you're right, with the climate that we're living in
and the uncertainty of what's going to happen in this

(38:24):
country from day to day, the fact that you have
your you have your right mind or we all do,
and we find a way to just to navigate the.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
World right now.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
It's hard, it's stressful.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Ship.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah, So that that is absolutely something to be thankful for.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Totally thankful for that.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Thank you. With all that being said, says, go ahead
and share with us some goodies today. Well, this is one,
honestly I may have shared before, but I feel like
it's fitting for today, and especially after what you just said,
and it says, never let the things you want make
you forget the things you have.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Love that.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
I love that. I don't know if you shared that
one before, but I love I did.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
I just felt like it was perfect today because you know,
to you, we always sit here and look at other
people around us and things around us, and we're always
talking about I wish I had this and this and
this instead of saying I'm grateful and thankful for having
us this and that.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
So yes, yes, yes, the perfect for Thanksgiving, perfect for
this season, and a perfect way to close our show today.
So fans, thank you so much for listening to levels
to this. We're going to be back next week with
more next level conversations about the real shit that we
go through as women. And remember this is not just
our show, it's our show, so we want to hear

(39:54):
from you, and we definitely want to hear from you
right now because we've got a thousand dollars giveaway going
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Speaker 2 (40:02):
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Speaker 2 (40:12):
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(40:56):
us talk about next, you can definitely do that. So
until time, friends, keep your mittal's ground level and we'll
be back next week.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Peeks.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
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