Psychic medium with Tyler Henry

Tyler Henry joins Chelsea to talk about the ways our loved ones communicate from the beyond, the family secrets that changed his life, and his experience re-learning how to speak as a teenager.   Then: Tyler does a reading.  The daughter of a paraplegic wonders if her mom suffered at the end.  A granddaughter can’t seem to get past her grief.  And secrets are revealed about how to find a psychic - and when you should avoid one altogether.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, Hi, Chelsea.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hi, Hi, Hi. I'm very very vibrant this morning.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
Oh yeah, because I haven't had a drink for a
couple of days, and I just feel so much better.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
When I don't drink.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
But obviously that's not gonna last, so I try and
take a couple down days, you know. But I mean
with summertime, it's just very difficult. Too many social engagements,
too much traveling. The most amount of time I spend
sober is probably on an airplane.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I don't like to drink on planes.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
It does make you feel extra yacky when you get
off the plane.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, yeah, I don't like to mess with that.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
I like to get on a plane, take a Xanax,
go to sleep, wake up, and feel fresh as a daisy.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Ooh, that's the way to do it. I once took
an adavan on a flight and like watched an entire
movie for good. I watched the movie.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Welcome to My Whole fucking Life. I don't even so.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I've watched entire series and not remembered that I've seen
them until like rewatching.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Them in three episodes in Yeah, I'm a hot mess.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Sometimes I'm like half asleep, you know. I like to
fall asleep to television. I know they say, don't do that,
but I got this.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Amazing those Court's face mask that I sleep on. Is
it cold, Well, it feels cold.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
It gets warm in the night, but it's like just
because it's crystals. So I have a full face one
and I have a half face one. I've been sleeping
with that and any under eye puffiness or swelling or
anything like that, it just gets everything out. So I've
been I'm really into that lately. Anyway, I go to
sleep with the TV on, I put on my rose
Quartz mask, and then eventually I turned.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
The TV off.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I mean, who's paying attention to television anymore? Anyway?

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I mean it's so hard to pay attention to anything
because we all have such add adhd add by all
the bipolar disorder, multiple personality borderline. Anyway, Okay, guys, we
have added more shows to my Little Big Bitch tour
because I'm coming all over. We add a second show
at the Pantagius in Los Angeles, so that's October twelfth

(01:50):
and Friday the thirteenth, which is my favorite day of
the year. We added a second show in Boston at
the Weighing Center September twenty ninth and thirtieth is two
in New York. I also have a show in Eastthampton,
New York, August twenty six.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
We added a.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Second show in Portland, So Thursday November tewod Friday November third,
and Portland November fourth and fifth in San Francisco, two
shows there. We added a second show in Seattle November
tenth and eleventh. Two shows Boston are November sixteenth and
seventeenth at the Bach Center at Wang Theater. And I'm

(02:25):
also coming to Toronto and Montreal and Ottawa and so
many other cities Columbus, Cincinnati, Detroit, Louisville.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
So I will see everybody at all of these shows.
Thank you. Get your tickets at Chelseahandler dot com.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Chelsea. Have you always believed in something beyond our physical world,
like what we can't see sort of thing, maybe not
a higher power, but an afterlife?

Speaker 3 (02:53):
I mean, I guess, yeah, I know, I mean I
hoped so right, Like I think when I was younger,
I believed in God because that was instilled in me
that there was a God. And then as I became
in my teens, I was questioning it a lot, but
always kind of I've always felt like there's something personally
like watching over me, like protecting me. Like I've always

(03:14):
felt like, oh, there's something protecting me, there's something steering me.
I'm accountable to this invisible eye in the sky. So
when there's a choice to make the good decision or
the bad decision, I always make the good one because
I feel like I there's a witness Meanwhile, that's like
a fantasy. But as I've grown older, and I think
my brother's death and my mother's death makes me believe
in mysticism makes me believe in the other. I believe

(03:35):
there is a universal intelligence. The more that I've read
and discovered, and then therapy also really made me. I
always went to psychics and stuff because I like that
kind of stuff. Yeah, but I never necessarily.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Always believed it. But sometimes it's just very comforting.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
And I think that now that I've witnessed all those
little miracles, like I was yesterday looking at I took
my girlfriends are in town, and I went to take
them to my new house that's going to be ready never.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
And someday they're like, it'll be ready in August.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
My girlfriends are like, Uh, there's no way this house
is going to be ready in August.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Everyone's like, there's no way.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
I'm like, watch this house, by the way, that you
were talking about renovating when this podcast started.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
I know, I know it's been I mean, it's just
the joke is on me.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
I can't believe how much time I've spent in rentals
wasting money. Well anyway, but my friend we left there
and we're at the dinner last night with a couple
of girlfriends and my friend was like, uh, did you
see that hummingbird just circling your front door when we
were walking in. She goes, you were talking to the
contractors and the designers and there was a hummingbird just circling, circling, circling,

(04:40):
and then when.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
We walked in.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
So a psychic had said to me, you know, your mother,
the way your parents, your mother, and a lot of
dead people come back are as birds whatever. So that's
easy because you can always Yeah, if you're a cynic,
you can be like, well, they're birds everywhere, but a
hummingbird specifically. And they also told me watch out for nests.
When you move into a place or you have a house,

(05:02):
watch out for nests in weird places because your mother
is forming nests and that's where she hangs out is
around your house in Whistler. My property guy called me
and he goes, you know, you have a nest right
outside your front door.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
There's a bunch of hummingbirds up here. Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
And I was like, what so yesterday, this was six
months ago. Yesterday my friend was like, you know, there
was a hummingbird outside your door.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
And I go, you did tell me that? She goes, yeah,
it just kept circling the door, circling the door, circling
the door.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Why would it be doing that.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
It's my mom gracing it or blessing it or saying
like she's here, she's here. Who knows what it means.
But and then when we were there, they're like, there's
like three birds nests at every entrance and I.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Was like three.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
He goes, yes, at every doorway in the back, in
the front, and then the doorway to the gym. He goes,
there's three. And I was like, oh my god, why,
And I couldn't. I was just like, holy shit. It
was just crazy. And so I was like, Okay, I
believe in that that is my mother. She would be
a bird coming back around me. I do believe she
was also my dog Junk, but.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, so I do.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
I just I think it's some more fun way to live.
And whatever you believe is true is true. It's just
like when you tell yourself negative things, they become true,
and when you tell yourself positive things, they also become true.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
I think that's so true. I love what you say
about Like, if you don't know what it means, that's
still okay, because maybe you will in the future and
maybe you won't. I tend to see the numbers one, two,
three four constantly, which seems like, well, those are the
first four numbers, but also like on a clock, like
half the time I look at a clock, it's one, two,
three four, and I don't exactly.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Know what it means.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I tried looking it up in numerology and stuff, and
it seems to mean that when you see it, you're
on the right track and you're in your growth and.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
You're learning, which I like.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
But I'm like, I feel like there's some deeper meaning
and I feel like one day it's going to hit
me like a ton of bricks.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah, numbers are important too, Like I told my aunt
when my cousin died. She was obviously, you know, never
going to be the same. And I said, you know,
she doesn't believe in any of this. I go, you
have to think of something, Think of something so obscure
that only he would know about.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Just make it up in your mind.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Communicate to him in your mind that you need to
see these numbers or these letters or this symbol. She
chose like xyz da da da da. She chose some
random thing of numbers. So she spent the whole I go, great, now,
look everywhere, just look at in all the strangest places.
So she's looking at license plates, she's driving around, looking
and seeing if she could find this weird combination of lettering.

(07:29):
And then she picked up her phone and the numbers
that those letters made out on the phone was on
her phone without making a call, because it wasn't a
full phone number. It was just like five letters, and
and it just it was like, whatever that is on
your phone. And she said she looked at her phone
in the middle of the day and she called me.
She was shaking. She's like, oh my god, that's him.
He's okay, it's so wid.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
So I think that you know, we're When we lose someone,
we're so desperate to know that they're okay, and we
suffer so much. It's like they don't want us to suffer.
And I understand you have to grieve because you've lost someone,
but there is an attachment that real monks and Buddhists.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Know not to attach to, not to attach to the
physical form.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Of course you're attached emotionally, but it's not gone. When
that person dies, they're just not here. And while that's
a huge loss, don't forget that there's the energy and
the connection and the love is still there and palpable, right.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
And I mean, even from a straight up physics perspective,
energy doesn't disappear, right. It transforms into something else, whether
it's water becoming a gas, et cetera, et cetera. But
I think the same can be true of the literal
electric energy that's in our bodies when we're alive. It
doesn't just disappear and dissipate. It has to transform into
something else.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
And when you are aligned with this universal intelligence that
I speak of, like when you believe that everything is
leading you to the in the right direction, and to
trust your instinct and gut and you don't resist uncomfortable
circumstances or things that don't work out, You don't let
them drag you down. So far everything starts to get easier.

(09:11):
And that tip has happened in my life in such
a major way that I would be remiss to pretend
that it wasn't part of a universal alignment. Like I'm
in my flow state, I understand where things are going,
and even if things don't work out, I feel so
optimistic about all the work I've done and the direction I'm.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Headed that I can handle it all.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, and now I trust myself, and before I didn't
trust myself, or there were times where I did it.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Trust myself is a better way to put it.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
It's a hard thing to learn when something's not going right, Like, Okay,
this is a learning experience. What am I actually supposed
to take from this? Even though it's painful or awkward
or annoying, But you can get there, you know, to
accepting that all of these things are learning experiences.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, And the more experience you have, the more you
realize A breakup is not the end of the world,
world a job. Losing a job is not the end
of the world. A family member. Dying is terrible experience,
but it's part of life and it's not the end
of the world. Your world continues to exist. So how
do you want to move forward in that? As a
victim or as someone who's empowered and understands that this

(10:18):
universal intelligence is going to take and give and upset
and like enlighten be open to all of the experiences.
And you know, I used to be such a baby
and a brat. If things didn't go my way, I
would be I would stop my feet and cry to
get my way. And I don't have to do that anymore. Yeah,
so amen to that, yes for sure, which brings.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Us to our very special guest. Oh, you guys are
gonna like this.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
So our next guest is doing a live tour currently
just nominated for an Emmy for his show on Netflix,
which is called Life After Death, and he is the
star of Hollywood Medium. He is a recent Emmy nominee
for his Netflix series Life after Death with how Tyler
Henry Please welcome Tyler Henry.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Oh my god, how cute are you? I was so
excited to talk to you.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
I'm so excited to talk to you. I barely slept
a wink last night, So I am looking forward to.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Oh my god, you're so cute.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
I just think you're so Your whole vibe and energy
is just so sweet and welcoming and comforting to so
many people.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
It's so touching.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
Well, thank you so much. It means the world. I
feel the same way about you. You've entertained me for
years and have brought such so much joy to so
many people. So I'm excited to say.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Well, I'm less comforting but more probably joy.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah, I can bring joy, and I don't think comfort
is what I'm bringing.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
But that's okay.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Not everybody's here for everything, you know, Catherine, this is
my co host.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
H Well, Catherine, it's lovely to meet you.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
To me, okay, So I want you to tell me.
I don't know if I have this story right. I
want to talk about your kind of og story, your
mom and I think I read that your mom was
kidnapped as a young girl.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Is that accurate in essence?

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah, I'm basically my mom as a baby was taken
by a woman who we later found out took her,
and we for the first twenty something years of my life,
thought that this woman was my grandmother, and indeed we
came to this family discovery that she was abducted, and
it led to a whole kind of reunion with my
biological family, which was captured on a Netflix show called

(12:19):
Life After Death.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Whoa holy shit, I mean, that is a lifetime movie
come to roost.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
It really was. Oh my, the woman who did this,
who I thought was my grandmother for the first twenty
something years of my life, ended up actually serving over
thirty years in prison for the murder of two people,
and I ended up actually involving her own family in
having to bury the bodies and manipulated the entire situation,
and you know, it was a source of a lot

(12:49):
of shame for my mom. And then to find out
that that wasn't even actually her mother. It was definitely
heartbreaking and also kind of relieving to know we weren't
related to that person.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Oh yeah, I bet yeh.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
God, that must be such a hurdle to get over emotionally,
to grow up thinking somebody's one thing and then find
out they're not multiple things.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Absolutely. I mean, there's something to be said about, you know,
people living often with the sins of their father, and
you hear all these tropes about how the apple doesn't
fall far from the tree. And you know, my mom
grew up hearing those things and it was very taunting
for her. And so to realize, hey, you know, there
wasn't even a biological link, it was kind of healing.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Have you been able to help your mom on that front?

Speaker 4 (13:27):
Yeah, definitely. You know, in some ways, my own intuitive
inclinations are kind of limited when it comes to reading
my own family, and a lot of that has to
do too and just implicit biases. You know, I kind
of know too much. I have my own hopes and
fears about the people that I love and care about,
and so it was very difficult in my pursuit for
answers to be able to really get any through my
normal kind of go to methods. But we were able

(13:49):
to work with a leading genealogist. I introduced my mom
to another medium and we received a very compelling reading,
and through all that information was able to kind of
get an understanding of what happened, what led to this
horrible event that affected so many.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Oh gosh, yeah, I wonder if that you know, when
we talk about intergenerational trauma, right like, I wonder how
that affects you unconsciously.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Absolutely Oh, I've so often wonder too, you know, just
how trauma and its effect over generations can sometimes even
kind of be inherited in certain proclivities or susceptibilities to
maybe even anxiety, you know, on some levels. So I
do know that shame is something very powerful and often
does have a ripple effect. And so to be able
to tell that story in a way that was shared

(14:31):
with millions of people, I think was liberating and kind
of reclaiming what happened and owning that narrative and being
the one to tell that story versus being ashamed of it.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
And that show on Netflix, Life After Death was just
nominated for an Emmy, so I should mention that too.
So if you haven't seen it, definitely go and see it,
because that is one crazy story. Okay, let's talk about
you and how you came into touch with your abilities.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Absolutely well, for me, it really started when I was
ten years old. I didn't recognize this as an ability initially.
I woke up one night in April of two thousand
and six and just had this knowingness, this overwhelming feeling
that my grandmother was going to pass. And from there,
very quickly I went into the room to try to
share this with my mom, and as I was explaining
it to her, we literally, in that moment received the

(15:18):
phone call from my dad that my grandmother had just died.
So that acted as a catalyst. But when you're that young,
you don't really recognize that as an ability. It was
just a moment of connection, a moment of knowing this
that led to a series of other moments of knowing
this as time went on.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
A h and was this the grandmother that was went
to jail?

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Or is this your number one? So thankfully I had
a very, very wonderful paternal grandmother who was my world
and she made up for all the nastiness on the
other side of the family. But no, this was the
my grandmother who's my whole life, and she was really
kind of that introduction into what I would later do
as a job.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
And so how does one when you have abilities like
this and you and you categorize yourself as a medium.
So how does one separate the knowing and the intuitiveness
and the seeing that you have.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
How do you separate that.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
When you're living your real life and you're not working
or you're not trying. Is that like a switch that
you're able to flip easily.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
You know, I kind of like, in the medium side
of things to a little bit of like a volume
dial in the sense that there's always background noise when
I go about my life. But I've had certain kind
of processes or rituals or routines that I've created to
allow myself to kind of turn on and turn that
volume dial up, and then when I need to kind
of go about my life and go grocery shopping be
able to kind of turn it down. And so that's
kind of the best way to describe it. But it

(16:38):
certainly is a process of kind of navigating a constant
sense of I'm trying to understand what's mine and what's
other people's and having that.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Discernment, And how do you feel there must be a
sense of responsibility that you must feel as just a human,
decent person, right, Because if I mean I feel a
sense of responsibility a human being and I don't have
that ability, even though I kind of wish I did.
I mean, who doesn't, really, right, I mean, you're the

(17:06):
envy of it. I mean, who doesn't want to be
around somebody who can see you know, the people that
have left your life or has some sort of psychic ability,
which I think we're all innately born with. Right, it's
a matter of whether or not you're how in touch
you are with the idea of it.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Absolutely, and it's really about trust. And you know, we
all get a first impression. We all get a feeling
when we shake someone's hand, we all get a vibe
when we enter into a room, and so many of
us just kind of discount that as it was just
a feeling, but so often it's kind of a tool
we're relying on and don't even realize.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
So, what was the biggest discovery you made after the
first thing with your grandmother? I mean, obviously that's a
huge discovery, But what was the next thing that really
cemented the idea that this was going to be play
a major role in your future and your professional life.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Yeah, well, you know, life very quickly changed for me.
At the age of sixteen, I had an interaction with
my math teacher, of all things, where I shared with
her message that I was getting while I was sitting
in class and again came through as a knowingness, almost
akin to like a memory that hadn't happened yet. And
when I shared this message with her. It involved her
former relationship and her divorce and what led to that,

(18:10):
and her former mother in law came through to let
her know that she loved her like a mother loved daughter,
regardless of the fact that her relationship with her son
had dissolved. And it was just really healing and showed that,
you know, there was power in these random moments when
they could be applied in the right way, in the
right circumstances and could actually help make a transformative effect
on someone's life. And so that math teacher was interviewed

(18:31):
actually on the Netflix show. She was instrumental in helping
me graduate high school at the age of sixteen, where
I then went on to try to become a hospice
nurse because I figured, you know what two birds one stone.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
And what happened when you tried to become a hostmas nurse.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Well this is the No one's gonna believe this, But
I ended up reading the dean of my college and
he literally ran into me one day and was like, Tyler,
if you did for me what you did for me,
you probably should just go in that direction more than
you know doing the hospice interessing thing. And so in essence,
I kind of always joke the dean of the college
gave me permission to quit school, and that's literally what happened.

(19:08):
And then, you know, life obviously went a very different
direction as I got my show when I was nineteen
years old.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah, congrat kudos to you on that way to go.
Netflix doesn't miss a beat.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
I just kind of felt guided into it.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Well, that's nice, congrats on that. Are we going to
do a little reading as Tyler?

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Are you going to open that doing a little reading
for Chelsea?

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Yeah, so absolutely, I would love to.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Well let's take a quick break and we'll be back
with Tyler.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
And Chelsea and we're back.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
We're back.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
So as far as this reading goes, I have my
pen and paper here, so I'm happy to scribble and
it might take about thirty seconds for stuff to start
coming through. Information can come through about both of you,
So just kind of good to keep this in mind.
Something might make sense for one the other it might
not so much, and so we'll kind of go back
and forth if that happens. But I'm going to scribble
and then we'll kind of see which direction we go. Now,

(20:01):
very often what will happen is information will come through
around conversations. We've just had family dynamics, things we were
just doing. If anything too sensitive comes through, I'll share
with you after the fact off recording. But yeah, generally
it just kind of helps me get a map of
where I'm going.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Like if my father's planning on coming back and reincarnating
himself during my life, that would be problematic for me.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
That you know what I'm here.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
You know, it's something something's funny that I always say
when I meditate or when I'm feeling spiritual or connected
really like to the universe, and I do my mantras
or whatever I'm into at the time, I always feel
my mom and my brother, but I never ever feel
my father.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
And I'm like, I feel like he's getting He's in
the spin.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Cycle, like in perfectory, making up for all all of
his bad behavior.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
He's just in limbo. But you know it's working, working
our way out the spin cycle exactly. We're good. Well,
we'll see if anything comes through, because one thing I
actually want to start with so immediately I have to
highlight for some reason, when we talk about females within family,
I'm being a big fan of you of course know
your mom has passed, but I have to highlight for
some reason acknowledgment also around an aunt. So if you
have any aunts that have passed away, it could be

(21:10):
a way of just kind of trying to acknowledge that
I like to relay exactly as a symbology comes through
kind of how I'm seeing it, And that's one of
the individuals I feel like I have to highlight in
some kind of capacity, check and see within Chelsea, within
your family, if there's anyone who's passed away in their
sixties that would be female, So like, I don't feel
like I get to hit my seventies. I feel like
I passed away kind of closer to my sixties, and

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it wouldn't be your mother, so it would be somebody else.
And that's just kind of good to keep in mind
without giving any information away off the top of your head.
Do you know of any females who would have passed
away in their sixties that.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Would have Yeah, my mom's sister, Elka, would have passed
away in her sixties, so yeah, I have one aunt, Elka.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Yeah, so we'd kind of be going in that direction.
The way this keeps coming in is I keep having
to talk about that aunt acknowledgment in the way, this
comes through a couple of cancer susceptibilities that would exist
within family that just need to be kept in mind generationally.
So I, as far I know, I believe your mom
did deal with some kind of cancer. Is that correct? Yes,
I'm aware of that, But I also feel like somebody
else may have also dealt with that susceptibility. That also

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comes through as being significant and female and dealing with
this at kind of an earlier age. So on mom's
side of family, do you know of any other females
who dealt with cancer?

Speaker 2 (22:17):
No, I don't, no worries.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Any like cancer scares, cancer bouts. When we talk about
her sister, do you know if she had any areas
of concern in that area?

Speaker 3 (22:25):
I forget how she died, but it wasn't cancer. I'm
pretty sure she had. I think she had heart issues, gotcha.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
She seems like a very strong person's kind of the
way we describe it in sense of like strong will.
I'm not going anywhere. I don't know why, but I
have to highlight more than one health related thing, and
I'm putting it definitely more around her. So just something
to look into and we'll kind of look and see
if we can confirm with that. I have to talk
about some reference in the way this comes across to
somebody receiving a gift, and it would be an art piece,

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but it would be of a dog, and this would
be of a dog that passed So if somebody received
some form of either an illustration of a dog that died,
I feel like I have to highlight this event happening
in some way. If it hasn't happened yet, it may
like we just end up getting surprised by this gift,
but it would be something thoughtful that somebody would do,
as like a rendition to honor an animal that has

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passed away.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, I've had it's plenty of those with my dog Chunk,
because Chunk was such a public stud that people sent
me so many beautiful things after he died, and a
lot of them were paintings, and like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
It's sweet and it's really symbolic in the sense of
when we see these things, it's just those reminders that
we hold on too, that feeling it kind of brings
back and the importance of holding onto that. I also
have to talk about Atlantic City and This is just
good to keep in mind. I'm seeing Atlantic City, and
anytime I see Atlantic City, I've been there before. It's
usually a place I attribute to casinos in some capacity.
But if there's any sentimental memories, So do you know

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any significant memories in that kind of area.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Well, that's where I met Bill Cosby, so that was significant, significantly.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, I was awake because.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Yeah, yeah, yes, well you remember it.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, I'm aware that it happened. So there's that.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
But yeah, I perform an Atlantic City on every tour,
of which I'm on one right now. So my family
usually comes down there, and I have a lot of
pictures of the beach in Atlantic City with my nieces.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, I have that.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
One thing I want to look into is there's some
acknowledgement it kept hearing a little birdie you told me,
So anytime that comes through for some reason with your mom,
there's some connection as this comes through with like a
little bird visiting. So if you find that, like you
when this hang when we hang up, if you like
go to your window and there's a little bird sitting there,
it's those kinds of things that often happen that kind

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of validate what we hear in readings, but I feel
like there's some visitation involving a little bird.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
It's so funny, that's so true because I've heard this before,
and I've read about people and like the most common
ways that they show you signs from the other side,
and birds is obviously very common. But someone once told
me check for birds nests outside of any place that
you live, like they're going to be in weird places.
And like three months.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Ago, I have a house in Whistler.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
The guy who takes care of my house for me
set me a picture of a bird's nest right outside
the window and he goes, Oh, my god, this bird's
nest was here all winter.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Did you see it? And I thought, oh, that's my mother.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
Oh I love that. So that's just kind of for
me when things like that get brought up in a reading.
It's a way to kind of refer back to an
event you would be familiar with, something that you can
recollect and kind of almost validate as a way of
saying that is indeed either me or I know that
you thought that was me at the very least, and
that for me is often very comforting. I have to
talk about that I woke up this morning hearing the

(25:37):
song idole wise, idle wise, idle wise. It's a song
from I think the sound of music. There's some darn
sentimentality with that song, and it will go back, and
it could go back generations even but idleways.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Well, my mom was German, so she was from that
neck of the woods.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
I love it if there's some sentimentality, if that song
was played as a child for somebody on a music box,
just remember that. I'm saying that check into it, because
I think we'll end up knowing where that fits. It
feels like we're kind of going back in time on
some kind of larger capacity. So I have to ask
as it relates to your kind of overall physical body,
one thing to consider is as we go to lower
I keep in mind that you have a susceptibility when

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it comes to legs of one leg being weaker than
the other, and just wanting to be mindful of this
because for some reason, when we're talking about balance, I'm
almost more inclined to worry about one like almost slipping up,
so that generally for me can sometimes indicate likenie susceptibilities.
Ankle susceptibilities anywhere we would have like a joint on
one side more than the other. Just be mindful of

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that if you notice any issues. Because I don't think
things are set in stone, we can kind of, you know,
knowledge his power on some greater sense. One thing I
want to talk about when we go to Dad's side
is when we do talk about that department. One thing
that I want to acknowledge. When I focus on that symbology,
I do not get a lot, but I will tell
you what I get. There's an acknowledgment of our dad,
either my symbology around what do we do with him?

(26:58):
Where do we put him, where does he go? If
there was a decision around someone either going into a
nursing home or having a rehabilitative kind of situation where
they need to be taken care of through the help
of professionals, there's some conversation around that in some large capacity.
But what's interesting is there's this feeling of if somebody
was not or if people were not able to be
there when he died, there's this feeling of that's okay,

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I went the way that I was supposed to go.
But sometimes people will come through and say, like, no,
I needed everybody around me. I'm not getting that feeling
with him. There's this feeling of I went and almost
timed my passing. And I don't know why, but if
somebody like almost intentionally went when they went to avoid people.
But I don't mean to say it in such a

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kind of way, but it just kind of feels almost
like not having everybody involved when it comes to sending
me off, Well.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
That's how I want to go. So, I mean, I
totally related my father feeling that way.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
If that's how he felt, it's definitely an interesting sense
of timing my passing. When it comes to dad situation,
were there people around at the very end or did
he pass kind of more solo?

Speaker 3 (28:04):
He wasn't with any of us. Yeah, he was solow
in one of those assisted living places.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
So the way that that comes in is basically, you
know some people live and feel like I wish I
would have been there. I wish I could have been
there for him. There's this feeling of like didn't need
people to be there, timed by passing. Yeah, the interesting
thing is I feel like he kind of held on
a little longer than I would have even expected, which
is kind of strange. He gives me an earlier acknoledgement
of an earlier point where I almost feel like we
were like ready to say goodbye, and then he pulls

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through in some capacity, in some larger, larger kind of way,
and then ends up passing a little later on, and
they're like, what, like, we thought I was going to
be the earlier thing. Did you have any earlier situations?

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yes, we were hoping he would die a lot sooner
than he did, because at a certain point it was
just not a quality life. And he was such a
stubborn asshole that he wouldn't die, you know what I mean.
He was just like holding on tightly to his anger.
I remember when my sister called to tell me that
my dad died. My sister Shauna, and I was in
the car with my driver, Billy, and she was crying

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and she goes, dad died this morning.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
And I'm like, I said, why are you crying? And
she's like, I don't know. We've been waiting for this
for years.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Like not because we hate our dad. I mean, he
was disappointing on many levels, but we all really loved him.
It was just that it was no way to live anymore.
So I think he definitely extended his life about six
or seven years longer than necessary.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
With that, though, equally comes in awareness of certain cognitive biases,
certain cycles that you as an individual have broken on
a larger scale. And there's just an interesting acknowledgement when
it comes to Dad about Dad not being able to
see things in life, being shortsighted in a larger capacity,
and from where he's at now, I truly believe there's

(29:45):
a greater clarity in understanding that ripple effect.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
I love that of how both his actions and inactions
affected the people around him. And I would really just say,
I don't get a maliciousness around him. I just kind
of get a sense of I feel like he might
have sometimes offended people without intending to offend them. And
it's almost like when someone says the worst possible thing

(30:10):
at the worst possible time, but they thought they were
being comforting. There's something there that just kind of comes
through that if anybody feels he kind of had that quality,
there's an acknowledgement of warning to wife that clean of
I see maybe perhaps the insensitivity or my timing not
always being the best, but people maybe not understanding that
from his perspective, so I don't really feel bad about it.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, yeah, Well I definitely have a little bit of
what you're describing as well. I was born with the
ability to say the wrong thing at the wrong time
or the right thing at the wrong time.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
There you go, you know it definitely, uh, it happens.
But there's definitely what I would say is fill a
sense of in hindsight and understanding.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Who was born in August my brother Roy?

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Okay, now, for some reason, and this is just one
thing to consider. There's an acknowledgement around like one brother
and then an brother and having to kind of separate
the two for some reason. Oftentimes objects that come through
have a lot more meaning than just their initial kind
of application. Check and see if anybody has any horse paintings.
Kind of a weird thing to say. I don't know

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where it's coming from, but like if somebody in the
family made a painting of a horse or has a
painting of a horse.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
I don't know why that I've been called a horse
before a horse face? Is that what we're talking about?

Speaker 4 (31:26):
Well, I think you're okay in that regard, but it's
kind of a weird generational thing. I feel like I'm
going back, and I'm not even entirely sure where to
place it. It could be switching gears to Catherine as
far as this goes.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
So, I definitely have some paintings of horses, one specifically
that's from my grandfather's house.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Okay, I feel wow. I want to kind of go
to you because I do sometimes get polls and I
have to kind of go with those poles because they're inclinations,
and we all have inclinations. But yeah, I think there's
something to inform in that, So give me the may
scribble really quick, Catherine. One of the areas that does
pop up is just kind of a hypervigilance around the
feminine system. That's usually ovarian, uterine, cervical. But I'm kind

(32:07):
of going to lower again, this may not be something
we include now.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
I'm very open. I've got endometriosis and had sort of
for that a couple of years ago, so about yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Gotcha, gotcha. I hope you're on the mend. I just
want to keep it in mind. There's some acknowledgement around
what I would view as like susceptibility information bybroid's ovari
insistently just kind of being mindful of that thing. I'm
just kind of just being on top of that, Catherine,
in your family, I'm just kind of curious check and
see if there were two passings within a very relatively
short period of time. There's an acknowledgement of three years

(32:39):
and two people within family passing in three years, so
that comes in pretty strongly. Do you know off the
top of your head, like two passings in three years?

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, I mean I would definitely say my two grandparents
on my father's side passed within two years of each other.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Gotcha. And when we talked about the lung cancer susceptibility
things separately from I would just look into it and
see if perhaps when we talk about dad side of family, Catherine,
for you, do you know of any situations involving three
siblings on Dad's side?

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Do we know what kind of situation?

Speaker 4 (33:11):
It's basically so I have to highlight an acknowledgment of
three and it's generationally going back above you, which usually
would put that on Dad's level.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, my dad has three half siblings that he grew
up with, and there's a lot of half siblings that
he did not grow up with, so that could be
what that is.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Okay, I having to highlight. The three generally be three
that we'd be kind of more familiar with in some capacity.
That's more for some reason, I'm putting some kind of
long lung diagnosis lung prognostiy.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
So yeah, okay, I absolutely know what that is. Yeah,
my aunt Debbie died of emphasema or like complications from emphysema,
which is okay, one of those three.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah, so I definitely want to go there. I just
generally interpret anything that would be like a terminal lung thing.
That's kind of the symbology I'll get, and that's what
I was getting. So I'm glad we figured out where
it is all good as far as as living people goes,
which is kind of good to be on top of that.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
And when you bring up like hew issues, is it
as to heat a warning or is it to like,
I mean, when someone has already crossed over, say, and
you're you're acknowledging how they went, is that a confirmation
in a sense that you're speaking to them.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Is that why they're like saying it like to confirm
their presence?

Speaker 4 (34:16):
So how someone passes is a big part of their
life story, and so very often people's lives and what
they valued and who they were will come through. But
very often a way to kind of validate will be,
you know, kind of leading with what led to where
I'm at now, and that's usually well always the cause
of death.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Oh okay, well that was very juicy and cute. I
like that little speed round. Okay, so let's give some
advice out.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah, I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
We'll take a little break and be right back.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
And we're back.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
We're back with Tyler, Henry and Chelsea. Our first email
comes from Denise. Dear Chelsea. I recently lost my mother
unexpectedly to a stroke, and I'm pretty devastated. This was
the heart est thing I've ever gone through. My mother
was not only an amazing woman but also my best friend.
I used to talk to her two to three times
daily and she was my bouncing board for everything. The

(35:10):
constant pain I'm feeling is unbearable, and I'm learning about grieving.
They say that even though people die, you can speak
with them and that they're still here with you. I
find myself having conversations with my mom, but I don't
know if it's me talking to myself or is it her.
How do you know? And when is too soon to
see a medium all the best, Denise.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
What a beautiful question, Denise. You know, I would just
say when it comes to seeing a medium, it's important
to do that when we've gotten to a place in
our grief where I think we've been able to fundamentally
process that physical loss. Medium reading is not a cure
for grief, and it's important that we go through the
process of being able to find acceptance. However that looks
to us in being hopefully able to see grief counselors

(35:54):
or find a sense of community or finds a sense
of support before we go and receive a reading. So
that would be my kind of general advice when it
comes to the protocol. Largely though, I think when it
comes to you know, wondering if they're there, if they notice,
are they connected? Those are all very normal questions to have,
and for me, I find in my own work one
of the number one ways that they often seem to

(36:14):
answer is through something called meaningful coincidence called synchronicity. And
synchronicities happen, and you know, very often they are moments
where events line up and we just kind of feel
in an uncanny sense of wonder wondering, you know, was
that you. And I think that even those moments where
we stop and are kind of struck by this sense

(36:35):
of questioning, those very often are signs and ways to
let them know and affirm that they're still with us.
So not only our dreams a great way for people
to kind of come in. Timing is also something important
to look at as a way that in a vehicle
of which they communicate.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
And I also want to add in, like you just
have to believe, like you, if you believe it, then
it's true to you, you know, and if you like
when I'm talking to my mom, I never doubt it
for a second because I want to believe it. You know,
I would recommend to try not to resist the judgment
of your communication with your mom. People, don't you know,
they're not gone. The love that existed, it will always remain,

(37:14):
and that is a piece of her that you will
always have, So it's never ever gonna leave, like your
aura and your energy field, like that's your mom. So
you have to trust in that, I think energetically to know,
like you think your mom is just going to die
and just forget about you and disappear, and did you
no fucking way is your mom gonna do that?

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah, And also like, what's the harm in believing that?
Like exactly, you're a total cynic, Like why not be
like I'm just having a conversation with my mom.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
Well, and truly, there's something to be said about subjective
you know, truths and objective truths and creativity, love, spirituality.
They exist very much on the meaning oriented arenas, and
that's a big part of it. So you know, objective
truths are the pursuit of science, that's math, you know,
that's technology. Subjectivity exists and kind of a different realm,

(38:00):
one that is still valuable and still has meaning, but
doesn't necessarily have to be understood by everybody around you.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Right right, You know, if you believe in your mother,
that's all that matters. If you believe that your mother,
that you're talking to her and it's so comforting, why
would you deny yourself that comfort?

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (38:15):
And also, like it seems true to your relationship with
your mom. You checked in two or three times a day.
You are constantly in conversation, So why wouldn't you still
be in conversation with her? Why wouldn't she still be
having a conversation with you? I think that's wonderful.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Well, let's jump to a caller. I have Amy on
the line here, Dear Chelsea, my mom very recently passed away.
I was wondering if, once someone crossed over, if they
have to prioritize how often they visit loved ones. My
mom would want to visit her three granddaughters first, and
then my sister and my dad. I don't know that

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she would feel the need to visit me as much,
since I'm living an average life with not a lot
for her to worry about. See if she was a
big worrier, But I thought I would get the sense
that she was around me more. I keep thinking maybe
she's focusing on those that need her presence more. Chelsea.
Having lost significant family in your life, what has been
your experience and have you received any signs that they're

(39:12):
with you? And how often? Hi?

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Amy?

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Hi? Amy?

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Hell?

Speaker 5 (39:17):
How Hi?

Speaker 4 (39:18):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (39:19):
This is Tyler Henry. He's our special guest today.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Hello, Hi, oh, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Wow, So you feel like your mom.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Do you feel like your siblings or your dad or
any of the people you mentioned feel her presence at all?

Speaker 2 (39:33):
You know, I think that they do.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
I don't know if I was expecting some grand sign.
I just kind of wanted to know that she was okay,
and she died of cancer and it was a difficult passing,
and it just kind of expected maybe rainbows or forerd
to land on my shoulder.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Or something, and absolutely so. Well, first, what I want
to say, Amy, is I would love if you contacted
my website. We'll give you a full free membership to
the Collective where you can take part in group readings
and see the experience and potentially receive one yourself. So
we'd love to have you over there. But to your question,
you know, when it comes to spirituality on a larger scale,
the analogy I like to use when it comes to

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where they're at is this. I like to say, if
you imagine that you are in New York City and
you know there's a car accident that happens two streets over,
if you are in the middle of the city, you
know you're not going to be able to see that
car extent two streets over. But you know who will
a skyscrapers somebody who's cleaning a skyscraper window washer at
the very top of the skyscraper from where they're at,
from where they're situated, would not only be able to

(40:35):
see you, but would be able to see the car
accident two streets over. That doesn't make the window washer
any more enlightened than you and I, but it's from
where they're situated. From their perspective, they're able to see
more than perhaps us on kind of a lower level
of awareness. So they definitely seem to see a lot
they are with us, but not necessarily one at a time.

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I think that there's an awareness of that collective sense
of connection that they share.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah, And I would say, in my experience with my mom,
like it's not something that's going to fall out of
the sky and land on your shoulder, you know what
I mean. They're not tapping you on the shoulder, like
they're not touching you in that way. I look at
it as like, oh, that's a reminder that everything's going
to be okay. And it's also helpful sometimes for you
to pick a symbol, like something that was meaningful between
you and your mom. Like with me and my mom,

(41:23):
it's an orange. Whenever I'm like stressed out and I
see an orange out of place, I'm like, oh, my
mom is telling me everything's going to be kosher, It's okay.
And I think that's a powerful thing to like think
of something between the two of you and keep your
eyes open.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Don't expect it to come to you.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
You sometimes have to find the signs, you know what
I mean. It's like everything in life. The more open,
the more you see, and the more narrow minded, I think,
the more limited you are, and the less belief you
have in this kind of possibility.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
And it's beautiful because you kind of create a language.
Then you know, if you can say this is my sign,
this is how I would like you to present yourself
to me if possible, then you kind of have that code.
You have that language. You are being that bridge and
making an active effort to communicate and keep that relationship
going in a different way, but a way.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Nonetheless, Yeah, I do something, and I'm sure you're probably
not a comedian, Amy, but so this won't be what
you do. But I do this thing before I walk
out on stage. Every time, I do this thing where
I like look up as if my mom's above me.
I think everything's above me. But actually Tyler just confirmed
that everything is above us.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
So I'm glad for that.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
But I always look up and as I'm walking out,
I'm just right before they call my name, I just
am like I have these ebulience of light like shining
down around me, which is my mother, and I'm with
her and she's with me, and we walk out together
and that's always how I do it.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
And it feels like I'm being lit from within.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
And so if you can have some of this imagery
for whatever is an important thing that you do, you know,
in your day, it doesn't have to be something.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
That's scary or daring.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
It can just be try to invoke your mother's presence,
really invoke it and be like, Mom, I'm here with you,
like even if you're you know, you're talking to yourself
or not speaking out loud and just thinking it like
it's powerful.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Our brains are much more powerful than we give them
credit for. So trust it absolutely.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Being able to live vicariously, you know, and allow her
to live vicariously through every new action, every achievement, every
new memory, everything you do, every new love that you make,
every bond that you have, is a way to honor
her and to allow her to kind of live through
that in some greater way.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Oh, I love everything you guys, don awesome love it.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
I knew you would give good advice.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Oh good, Well, make sure you go over to his website.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Okay, Amy, Yeah, I'll get you guys connected.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Absolutely, I'll see you over there.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
Thank you. That, I mean, that really did hit home
for me, you know, the like I need to not
wait for her to come to me, I need to
communicate back.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
So yes, yes, that really hit.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
So thank you.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
I have a beautiful rest of your day.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Thank Tyler. How old are you?

Speaker 4 (44:00):
Twenty seven?

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (44:01):
You're very particulate, really really.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
Good moisturizer, and I'm twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
It just kind of you have such a good use
of language.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
I love when young people speak so eloquently, like your words,
your vocabulary. It sounds very patronizing probably saying that to you,
but I just love language, and I love when someone
speaks effortlessly.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Well that means well, I had a brain injury, of
all things, in a brain surgery when I was eighteen,
so it actually really affected my ability to I get
a phasia where I can't talk, So that that actually
really it's a huge compliment. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Yeah, Well, you're probably over corrected right because of your
brain injury, that you probably work even harder at speaking.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
So well, well, I try my best, but thank you.
It means a lot.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Did you have to like relearn a lot of language
and that sort of thing.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
It was a whole process. It's you know, you have
the words inside, but to get them out was really
the challenge of what is often the case of brain surgery.
So it's been a lot kind of slowing down. You know,
you have a lot that you want to say, but
you just kind of have to take one word at
a time.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
So well, our next question comes from Whitney. Dear Chelsea,
I've been going back and forth for a couple of
years about seeking out a medium to help me with
my grief. She had lost a couple of grandparents who
were really influential in her life. But I'm very skeptical
and have no idea how to determine if a medium
in my area is legitimate or not. I'm assuming that

(45:17):
mediums who've gained national success must be the real deal,
but then at that point they're probably out of my
price range. To say that my grief bogs me down
is an understatement, and I'm not even sure that this
would be the way to finally have a sense of
relief in my life. But I've tried every other avenue
so far. I've been to grief counseling, I've seen therapists,
I've been medicated. I've tried to wear my grief out

(45:38):
like it's a toddler, but nothing is helping. I know
I'll never completely not feel this loss, and I know
that I'll always wish they were still physically here, but
I need this enormous weight lifted off my chest. Is
a medium?

Speaker 3 (45:50):
The answer, Whitney, Yeah, what do you do with somebody
is having such a difficult time with their grief?

Speaker 4 (45:57):
Like?

Speaker 2 (45:57):
What advice can you give someone?

Speaker 4 (46:00):
Sure? Well, for one, I think expectation management is good
and medium will never be the answer or a cure
all for grief, but it certainly if you find a
good one can affirm and validate that bond and the
fact that that bond still continues, and that's really, in essence,
what any good medium should strive to do. But I
look at mediumship as that of a practice, and being
that it's a practice, they are practitioners. And just as

(46:23):
there are many practitioners in this world, doctors know therapists.
You want to make sure that if you're seeing a
practitioner you're going to somebody who is legitimate, and the
way to do that in this world, in the world
of mediums, which is unregulated, there is no better business bureau, which,
to my frustration, is the case. I think it's very
important to go through word of mouth, to go through recommendation.

(46:43):
Going to somebody that you know comes under high recommendation
from somebody you trust, somebody you know and have a
relationship with, it tends to be the best way. And equally,
some of the best readings I've ever received were for
free from people who were not even working as mediums
full time. So there are very talented people that exist
among us who may not openly work as a medium,

(47:06):
but might still be able to help you out, and
you'll find them through word of mouth.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
And are there like group mediums, you know, like where
people can do it if they can't afford something like
you mentioned that on your website, which is also something
you can explore.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
But like, are there a group things where you go
to a root? So is a lot of people I
don't know, is that common?

Speaker 4 (47:23):
So there is a community called lily Dell actually in
northern New York, which is just that people take entire
tourist destinations to this gated community. In New York, there's
been a spiritualist retreat where mediums live on site and
do readings, and it's an entire kind of tourist industry there.
So there's certainly that in theory. I think there's something
to be said about just individual experience and being able

(47:45):
to kind of seek out individual practitioners without giving them information,
and just kind of understanding when you walk into a
medium reading, you know your loved one more than any medium.
You know they love one's essence. You know how they'd
be and clind to deliver information. And so I think
it's just important to trust that more than any message
you hear. You know you know and will know if

(48:06):
there's a connection being made.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
And also I just want to say, Whitney, your grandparent
wouldn't want you to be suffering in this way. This
is heartbreaking. No one wants their grandchild to suffer at
the loss of her. So that's something to also contemplate.
Think about the impact, Like you have an opportunity to
live your life in honor of your grandmother.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
And like live the life, live your life in an
essence for her.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
I mean, no one should be living their lives for
another person, but in a way, she can vicariously live
through you and you can invoke her essence for your life.
That's a very powerful way to keep those relationships close
to your heart.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Even though they may feel far away. And I would
suggest to try and practice that, you know, to try and.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Live, live out loud, live your life fully, and try
to really get to a place where you can be
joyful again. It's not it's easier said than done, but
if you do it with the idea of your grandmother
really just kind of smacking you on the butt, like
I want you to have.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
The best life.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
This is your chance, Like, please don't get hung up
on my passing. I want you to succeed and love
and live and all of those things. You know that
she would want that for you, absolutely, And.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
We owe it to them to remember them for who
they were and how they lived versus that one moment
that caused them to transition. And I think it's interesting
the sense that Maya Angelou, one of my favorites, had
a quote about similar to Chelsea, when she would go
on stage, she'd call upon her departed mother, she call
upon her ancestors, her grandmother, and she said by the

(49:38):
time she walked on stage, she wasn't walking on that
stage alone. She came with an army of people who
loved her. And I think we really are a culmination
of the love we are given in this world. So
to be able to harness that, to call upon that
essence and invoke as Chelsea says, it's such a powerful
way to still feel that connection even if that physical
bond is no longer there.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Chelsea and I talked about this on a recent epid.
So sometimes when you try to push something away, a
feeling away, it makes it worse. And so think of
your grief as sort of something that you bring along
with you. It doesn't mean you can't have joy in
your life, it doesn't mean you can't go about your
day to day, but that grief is a reminder of
the closeness that you shared with those people. And when

(50:19):
you feel that sense of grief, be reminded that that
person is still with you and that you do still
have relationship with them. They're right there. That grief is
part of that relationship, and bring it along with you.
Feel it when you need to feel it, but also
know like it's okay to have that at the same
time as you're having maybe a joyful moment or something

(50:39):
was funny, or you know, you're living your life day
to day. It's okay that that's sort of a passenger
with you right now. I actually have a question for you, Tyler.
What do you think about like reincarnation. Do you think
people can come back?

Speaker 4 (50:54):
So I don't view reincarnation as a linear process, like
a line. So the traditional view is the ring nation
is you're born, you die, you're reborn, and you die,
you're reborn, you die in kind of a line, right,
And so my belief is that we as a soul
are a lot more multifasted than we realize. And in essence,

(51:14):
the best way to describe it is, I think we
basically can exist in many different forms at once. And
it looks like we are living our individual little lives
on our individual little timelines. But my belief is that
in many ways we kind of have many tentacles in
many different arenas. And it's very kind of uncomfortable sometimes
to think about, and it kind of gets into philosophy

(51:36):
of determinism and all of these things. But I believe
in a higher self that when we transition we become
part of something greater than ourselves that has always been
a part of us, and we kind of reunite with
that part, and then part of us might you know,
continue on in other incarnations, but that kind of soul
essence of us always exists, and I think is always
retaining information. And that is why I believe I do

(51:59):
readings for people even if they've reincarnated, which maybe they have,
maybe they haven't. I'm still able to get information about
that life, who that person was, even if that's continued on.
And it's hard to say, you know, it's one of
those things. It's one of those great mysteries.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Well, let's take a quick break and we'll be back
for our last question with Tyler and Chelsea.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
And we're back.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
We're back. Well, our last question comes from Stephanie Dear Chelsea,
longtime listener, first time writer. I've always wanted to say
that when it comes to mediums, I must admit that
I'm a bit of a skeptic. I'm a nurse practitioner,
and so I'm very science minded, but I also greatly
want to believe that there are forces greater than us

(52:46):
that we can't comprehend or measure now to the reason
I'm writing. My mom passed away this week. She was
an unstoppable force. When I was six, she was shot
and paralyzed from the waist down by an accidental gunshot
wound by a child. She had severe pain for thirty
one years, but never took any pain medication because she
wanted to keep her mental capacities sharp. She raised two

(53:07):
children as a single mom, became CEO of a large
nonprofit organization, sat on two prominent boards in our community,
and showed unlimited love to everyone, especially my four and
nine year old. As you can tell, she was someone
really special. I cared for her in her last month,
and I wish I knew how to know she was
at peace. Tell her we're okay, and that's because she's

(53:29):
given us all the tools we need to be okay.
Thank you so much for your show. It's a highlight
of my week. So I think the biggest question is
how does she let her mom know that they're all okay?
And how does she know that her mom is okay
and that she passed without too much pain.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
Absolutely Well, you know, I think we often do understandably
get very focused on what causes someone to transition. Even
under the best of circumstances. So many of us relived
those last moments or our last interaction, or what could
have been said or what could have been done, even
under the best of circumstance answers. So I think it's
a very normal place to be in grief, you know.
I just think when it comes to that awareness, if

(54:07):
you look at who she was in life, clearly she
prioritized her children and the generations of family that came
after her. And so I would say, as you revel
in every moment, as you reach you know, achievements and
accomplishments and those big landmark moments, find ways to implement
her into those moments. What maybe you know, we wear

(54:27):
a piece of jewelry and every time we look at
that jewelry we think of mom or whatever it may be.
There's ways to still carry them on and allow them
to kind of live vicariously. But you know, I think
that's one of the great equalizers of death, is that
in essence, no matter what we're going through, it does
allow for some closure of physical suffering. And that's just
a moment in time that's not someone's eternity exactly.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Yeah, you have to know that people who have crossed
over are at peace, like you're not in your body anymore,
so there's no bodily suffering. And I would it would
be a big leap of faith to think that they're
suffering beyond this earth, you know what I mean. This
earth I think has so much suffering already. I mean,
what you're talking about is you're suffering, you know, at

(55:10):
the loss of your mom. But I when people wreck
themselves over the circumstances in which somebody passed, like, oh,
they were in such pain it was, even when it's
a hard crossing, as they say, at least they're not
suffering anymore. Like that's what's necessary to get them out
of their body and to stop the suffering. So you
have to believe that your mother is at peace, regardless
of how she died, She's at peace now, you know.

(55:33):
I mean, I think you just have to believe that,
and you have to know that and just keep telling
yourself that and keep showing her, you know, in the
ways that Tyler suggested, to keep living your life with her.
You know, not that it's over, she's gone, but your
relationship with her will never be over.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
And you know, just last point with the nursing aspects,
there's so many hospice nurses that have shared firsthand experiences
of you know, their own grief and also seeing you know,
patients at the end of life have very compelling experiences.
So I would encourage it.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Ask coworkers, Yeah, tell us about your tour, Tyler, Yeah,
so very much.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
Hitting the road been very busy.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Yeah, I've seen it on Instagram. You're on fire.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Oh, it's been so so much fun. I've been really thankful.
We've had a sold out tour all across the country
and it's been intense. Every year of twenty six cities,
I travel all across Midwest to the South, and it's
in a group setting, so it's anywhere from two thousand
to three thousand people. I share a little bit about
my story and what people need to know to get
the most out of readings, and then it turns into

(56:34):
a group reading and it's different every single time. You know,
people come in as strangers and by the end of it,
they're hugging and it's just a really beautiful experience to
be able to have that outlet in a society that
doesn't allow for people to talk about grief. Very much
to have people come together and feel comfortable honoring that
vulnerability and what they've gotten through in a shared way.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Great, and people can get tickets at over at.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
Tyler Henry Hollywood medium dot com. You can check out
tickets and my full tours get and there's more to come.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Oh well, that's so excellent. You're doing such a great service.
How nice is it to do what you love and
have it be so helpful to people?

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Right?

Speaker 4 (57:10):
I feel so privileged and so humbled every single time.
I mean it truly is mind blowing, and it just
reminds me of why we have to live mindfully and
it gives me a deep sense of gratitude and ever
reading I do, I think there's a message for me
as well. Well.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Was a pleasure speaking with you. I hope I get
to see you again soon.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Absolutely, And if you need anything, either of you, if
I can help in any capacity, if you have any
follow up readings, friend's family, I'm here and I would
love to stay in touch.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Okay, thank you, We.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
Have a good one.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Thank you so much. Bye bye.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
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