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July 21, 2023 7 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Breed me big, she's sheen am me no ma not
hone yo No, what.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Is your chilenge? Us?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
I am a choker.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
You're life going down before like.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Round Virgins. Here is a little preview of a new
recap series we're doing on Patreon where we recap this
week's episode of And Just like that, Oh Wow. To

(00:46):
listen to the full recap, go to patreon dot com,
slash like a Virgin and become a patron.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Delicious thank you. In case it wasn't completely obvious, this
is an episode with spoilers, So if you haven't watched
this episode of And Just Like That, go watch it
and come back. I feel like I want to start
in a completely random place, which is I want to
ask the two of you, have you ever been to
a con a convention of any kind? And if so,

(01:14):
Witch cons Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
And actually I have been. I'm guessing well, I know
that on the show they were at some random hotel.
I feel like, realistically, this probably would have happened at
the Javits Center.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
There's no other place.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
I have been to conventions there. I've never been to
something that was like so specifically female as this convention.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Was not female. You know it's kind of female. It was, Oh,
let's be clear, it was explicitly female, not for women.
It was for females.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Phoebe. Have you done a lot of cons in your life.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
I've been to like radio conferences and like.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
And like journalism stuff, So I don't really think we
need to talk to talk about that.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
I've been to multiple podcasting conventions. I've been too many, same.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
And you probably were loving it, no hate it.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
I mean I learned a lot. I'm not gonna lie.
I did actually educate myself. But I've also been to
DragCon like three or four times. I've never paid for it.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
I was always not a place I ever want to go.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I was tabling there. I was selling merch for my
other podcast, my other former podcast podcasts who shall not
be named. And then I've also been to that international
whale Conservationist convention that I've talked about before, right, and
what yesa whales? Wait wait, Phoebe, Okay, maybe I haven't
talked about this. When I was like in college, I

(02:56):
was living in London and I went by myself, took
a train to Brighton to go to an international whale
conservationist convention where I was the only person who was
like above the age of fifteen and under the age
of fifty and oh my god, can you communicate with
the orcas? No, but I did go can you try?
I did go to a seminar.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Can you give us a whale sound?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah? Oh my god, carline, Paul Chuck, is that you
I walked right into that one. I did phebe I
did actually go to an orca. I went to a
seminar from an ORCA specialist and named ingridvisor, and she
did help free the actual willy.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Wow. Okay, okaya, to back to ind just like that.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Maybe this is what the Virgin's page pay for. Okay,
this is this is still on topic.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Maybe like a way to structure this is we should
go like character by character and talk about each of
their structured Can we just celebrate that Jay and Miranda
broke up? Oh yeah, Okay. The big headline of this
episode is the evil has been.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Defeated and Chay and Miranda broke up finally.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
But but but I do I do want to give
a little like asterisk to that because I think the
the show was very deliberate in giving Chay a plotline
outside of Miranda. In this episode with their interactions with

(04:32):
Carrie as a way to sort of warn us that
just because Chay and Miranda are broken up, that does
not mean Chay is going away.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
No, that's what I was gonna say. Yeah, the asterisk
is that Chay is still a series regular, like gonna
be in every episode, probably still.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
And you know, like there their interactions with Carry at
Widow Conn. It wasn't horrible, but I still don't believe
that Carrie would want to be friends with this person.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
No, it's kind of giving what the show is giving,
which is like this person is adding to Carrie's diversity quota,
Like Carrie probably has no trans friends, probably has no
Latin friends, Like I think she just thinks Chay is interesting.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
I don't even believe that though, Like I I just
don't see a world in which Carrie Bradshaw, the most
like self centered monster of a person, would want to
hang out with this non binary podcaster.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Actually, okay, here's here's something. Let me actually side with
Michael Patrick King really briefly.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Oh no, not here, Patreon.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I'm just kidding. But there is a thing that happens
rose when you are paired with a work wife or
a work they them and like you just and yes,
and you are bonded whether you like it or not. Girl,
And god are we carry? Have you about microphone away? Rose?

(06:08):
You and I bonded against our will, like we were
in the same workplace even though we didn't like, we
didn't ask for any of this. And yeah, I have
red hair.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
So I'm kind of Miranda too.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
And now like we own a business together, and we are,
you know, emergency contacts sometimes And like, I don't know,
have you ever picked me up from the airport? What
is that thing that people would have friends do?

Speaker 3 (06:33):
You've never know that I've ever I've never picked he
up from the airport, but I absolutely would. My mom
didn't pick me up from the airport last night. I
had to take an uber home.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
She was tired and doesn't like driving. Yeah,
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