October 27, 2020 • 46 mins
Por fin! We interview comedian Marcella Arguello, the host and booker of Women Crush Wednesdays, the hottest and most diverse stand up show in Los Angeles, which happens every first Wednesday at The Hollywood Improv Lab. On this capítulo, we talk parking lot Stand up, comedic timing on zoom, gatekeepers in Latinx Hollywood, and more reasons why men are trash! Tune in to Sarah Cooper’s new special to see Marcella kill it!
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and booker of Women Crush Wednesdays, the hottest and most
diverse stand up show in l A. It used to
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But her debut album, The Woke Bully, which debut at
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Bullseye is a combination of Marcella's unique perspective and honesty,
which captures what it's like to its experience. Her life
in COVID nineteen halted the entertainment industry, but Marcella managed
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Out on Comedy Central, killed her over the top dance
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be seen on the upcoming Fuse TV show Like Share
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we are incredibly excited to chat with comedian funny lady
Marcella Argyle here to talk to us about comedy in
the time of COVID some exciting work that she has
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coming up. Marcella, Hello, welcome to Look. Hi, thank you
for having me. I'm so excited to finally be here.
It's it's a couple of years i've been I'm here finally,
although I'm coming for sure. Yeah, I'm excited. Thank you
for having me. Appreciate it. You guys, this is a
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great podcast. Thank you. And Marcella. You actually attended one
of our maybe our first podcast party. Yes. Yes, it
was a very strange event. It was like it was cool,
not strange in a bad way, just like I think
like half of the room knew what was going on
in the other half was like, hey, I'm trying to dance,
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say and it was like it was just kind of
it was just kind of fun to just you know,
stand in the back and watch it all kind of
go down. It was cool. Yeah, it was an experimental event.
A podcast party. What is a podcast party? So thank
you for being there though and supporting. So, Marcella, can
you introduce yourself a little bit for our audience in
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case they happen to live under a rock somewhere and
not know who you are. I mean a lot of
people don't know who I am. It's totally fine. Um,
I my name is Marcella. I'm a comedian. I've been
doing comedy for almost fifteen years, stand up comedy for
almost fifteen years. And I started in the Bay Area
from California, born and raised and um, currently doing well.
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I'm not currently doing comedy in l A because that's
not happening. But I was doing comedy l A. I
was running a really great weekly women's only show, Women
Crush Wednesdays. That was really fun. Um that's you know,
we're waiting for that to hopefully start up again. And
uh yeah, maybe you see me on two Dope Queen
season two, episodes three. I want to say, yeah, that's
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that's my intro. Yes, I attended. I went to Woman
Crush Wednesday the night that Nicole Buyer was performing. It
was so fun. Yeah, she's always fun, she's always she's
she she has an open door, uh invitation there, So
it's always nice to have her. She's fucking wild. She
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has another another amazing podcaster. I love. Why wouldn't you
date me? So, Marcella, you tweeted a few weeks ago,
a few days ago, whatever time is at that point,
it's not real. It's not real. Maybe I just tweeted it.
Maybe I just tweeted it. Yeah, about how comedic timing
doesn't really work on Zoom and I know you've been
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doing some Zoom shows, so can we talk about that
comedy and COVID? How's it working? How's it not working?
I have not been doing Zoom shows. I've been doing
like Zoom events, but not Zoom shows because I cannot,
I will not. I refuse to do stand up on
a Zoom show because there's a delay, and comedy you
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need the instant reaction, and uh, it just doesn't make
sense to me. Like I was telling somebody recently, how
like when we start doing common and even now, when
you experiment when new material you a delayed reaction is negative.
It means that the joke is either not funny, or
it's not easy to understand, or maybe you just need
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to change to word, um, but a day delayed reaction.
We've and you know, I've been doing comedy so long,
A delayed reaction fox with my head. You know, I'm
sure like some of the people who've only been in
comedy for a few years are probably fine with it
because they're just they're not there. It's easier to adapt
when you've only been doing it for a few years.
But I've been doing it too long. But I'm like,
I do zoom stand up. I'm just gonna get super upset.
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I'm gonna get mad. Like I don't know if you've
ever if you've only been to the Nicole Buyer Women crush,
I have a tendency to get upset on stage and
take it out on the audience and it doesn't go
my way, which is sometimes funny and sometimes it's fucking terrible.
So I I just can't imagine. I just I can't
imagine enjoying the fucking delayed response, you know, right, Yeah, No,
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I can totally see that. I mean, even just trying
to record a freaking podcast episode a nightmare. Yeah, especially
like you know, when you're dependent on or not dependent,
but you work on people's energies, right when you're integrating people.
Uh and I are, you know, doing our little thing
or back and forth and the delay does not it
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doesn't work. If it doesn't help, it's not cute. Well
because yeah, because then you end up stepping on each
other and interrupting when you think someone was pausing for
for an opening, but you don't know if they're just
completing their thought. And it's just it's sucked up. It's
it's not fun, it's not smooth. It takes away some
of the fun. But what are you gonna do? What
are you gonna do? So zoom events, But you've also
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done some parking lot shows, Yeah, I did. I was
that girl. I was open with barsa okay comedian who
has both in English and Spanish special right now on Netflix.
Check that out, y'all. And if you haven't already, and um,
he invited me. Actually I did stand up at a
comedy club the week before and saw like City Utah.
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Because they have like a low number of cases. They've
been running the show since or I should say running
the club since May. And they are, you know, following
all the COVID guidelines and so um. After talking to
another communyo who had been headlining there. I agreed to
open for Phelipe, and that was a little nerve wracking
because it was like, we're inside and I'm not usually
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being inside with a bunch of people. And it was
a three hundred seater but they only had a hundred
and fifty people in the room and it was a
little uncomfortable. Um, And but it was fine, you know.
It was also like, fucking what a trip to just
be able to do stand up, tell jokes and get
a reaction. I was, so it was and I did great,
by the way, So I just wanted everybody hearing to
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know you can take a long gass break. I'm still
do very good if you were good at what you do. Um.
But it was that was that was sucking a mind funk.
But it was fun and it was a really good
way to transition into doing the driving shows because the
driving shows fucking sucked. They fucking suck. They are not
good for the performer or just no way. I mean,
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I totally the only reason I did it because I
trust Phelipe. I know his audience is hell of fun
and hello dope and hello chill. So I was like,
I'm I know, I'll be fine. I know my material
will be fine. It's just that I'm gonna have to
talk myself into again what I just said. When I'm
on stage and the audience, I don't have a reaction,
I'll take it out on them, right, and sometimes it's
good and sometimes it's bad. So I had to tell myself,
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you're not going to get a reaction period at all,
so you need to not be a bit about it
to the next joke. So that's what I did, and
it was it wasn't fun, And it was how funny
because the first night was two hundred cars, which was
a lot of cars. You kind of only just vibe
off the people in the front row that are sitting
on their truck beds or if they're sitting outside of
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their car or whatever. But the second show is four
hundred cars. Four cars. It's a lot of cars, huge
field of cars. And Felippe's wife after my set, uh
because from where she was standing, she heard a lot
of laughter. Right, But when you're outside the sound goes up.
It's not going towards me. So I get off stage
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and she goes myrself, wasn't this so much more fun
than yesterday? I said, No, it wasn't. It was just
as terrible as it was last night. This ship is
not fun, but I get it. These people are paying
a lot of money to be entertained because they want
to get out of the house. So you do your job.
It's the first time in a long time I'm like,
I'm doing a job, you know, and not my favorite
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way to do stand up. Yeah, I mean I can
imagine we're all kind of just adapting, you know, as
as we can. Um. You know you so far you've
mentioned who We Love and Philippe Espasa, you know, and
you're also a prominent comedian right in the Latin X field,
in the field in general, where would you say the
current landscape is for Latin X comedy if you can
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even like, is there a landscape? Like is everyone doing
their own thing? What do you think? What's your opinion?
I think right now it's it's still pretty much how
it's always been. It's either you're fucking doing the classic
Mexican material, because that's what a lot of the material
in America has been about, you know, um, or you're
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doing your thing and you're not being included in the
Latino community, right because you know, you're either fucking us
or you're fucking you're fucking trying to be a thing.
You know, like it's never you're not allowed to just
be what you are. And I'm I'm thankful that like
Ider Rodriguez is out there, you know, doing her fucking thing,
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being a fucking loud and proud Latina and and helping
pave the way. But you know that also took Tiffany
Hattish bringing her up, giving her special, because we know
that I wasn't gonna get a special from these fucking
white people. They weren't gonna everyone the way she talks,
this is not I mean the way I talk. I'm
not funding Galina right now, and so that's just the
way it is. So it's the landscape is interesting because
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it's it's literally a landscape. It's just it's a wide
field of a lot of people doing a lot of
different things, but it's still very divided. It's still very
we either look Latino or you don't. And then according
to that, they're gonna put you where they think you
should be. And that's what's frustrating, because it's like there's
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a lot of comedians who are very good who aren't
getting the recognition they deserve because they're not doing, you know,
material that appeals to the Latino audience that the the
gatekeepers feel like they needs to be, you know, addressed.
When it's like Latina, we like everything, we like all
the things. We I was talking to somebody recently about how,
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especially with Latinos, we we because she this girl just
got a really nice, great position at a bright, shining
new company and they're doing great. She's doing great, but
she was tripping, you know, because she was like I
just as as Latina, like, I feel very uncomfortable and
it's hard for me, and I'm scared, and i feel
like I have imposter syndrome. I'm like, why why you're
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in You're in the comedy world. She's not a comedian,
but she's in the comedy world. And I'm like, as
as Latino, we've had to consume white mainstream media, We've
had to consume black mainstream media, and we've consumed the
fucking Latino. We even't consumed Sabel, though he got their
whole lives. We've consumed our ship and their ship, and
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then somehow we're not allowed to be in any of it,
you know, especially if you start dabbling on one side
or the other, right, but we are sometimes more qualified
than ain't anybody because especially in that position that she's in,
where it's like she gets to say what is funny
and what's good because she has consumed so much over
the years from all the cultures, all the backgrounds, especially
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in mainstream which for the most part, in mainstream American
entertainment is just white and black, and really has been
predominantly white because very black in the nineties, but then
that fucking disappeared and now starting to come back to
be Hella black helldo a lot of the great ship
for them, which is sucking, exciting and cool. We support it.
And then there's us where people are still like treating
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us like it's the fucking indies. They're saying. I mean, look,
I'm excited about that Selena series on Netflix, but it's
like there's other latina's ye that have done great ship,
great ship. We We've we got all the series on her,
you know, absolutely, how any more series on white Latinas
do we need? Not more? But I just unsell my
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own show, I think so well, you know, I like
definitely like hear what you're saying, because I am like
someone that consumes Latin X media, but I wouldn't what
what you consider like the slapstick Latin X comedy is
not what appeals to me. So I'm always looking for
something like, well, that's not really my humor, you know,
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And so I'm trying to find my own lane of
what do I like and how can I consume it?
How can I support the comedians that are doing what
I like? Yeah, but that's what's tough is that there's
so much out there, and for us there's there's limited
right not just as consumers, but as as performers, as
as as entertainers, and so it's it's just gets really
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tricky because you you want to support everyone, but everyone
doesn't want to support you, you know. That's that's what
sucks about being especially And I don't know because I'm
first generation. So when I was a kid, you know,
I was learning English, and I was like, let's consume
all the humor that we can because in our household,
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we love to laugh, of course, so we would consume
so much. Like we weren't allowed to watch sm NOL,
but we could watch and Living Color, you know, we
would watch all those goofy as eighties movies we were
I got so much diversity and comedic entertainment that it
like blows my mind that it's still so fucking separated,
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you know, because it's like we can all, we can
all be in this, but it just it just doesn't
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watching binging all the news, all the old shows that
they've put back on Netflix now, like I've I've been
watching Sister Sister and Half in Half one on one
and Militia, Girlfriends, Girlfriends, and it's so true like and
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in particular representations of Black women in these different sorts
of sitcom. And what I marvel at definitely is like,
I have so much respect for Black Hollywood and the
way that they've built for themselves and for each other
and put one another on. And I wish that in
Latin X spaces there wasn't such a desire to aspire
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to whiteness and blending into whiteness. Because we've had our
big superstars, like we can look back and look at
the j Los into this and that. What have they
sort of created for the next generation? Which exactly, And
that's the problem. That's the problem. And it goes back
to because, um, when when that list came out about
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Latin I there's no Latin X showrunners and that list
that came out, it's a bunch of a bunch of
different backgrounds, but apparently no latinos. Right. But I'm curious,
like who's helping the latin X showrunners, because like, Okay,
I don't want to talk to anybody, but there's quite
a few Latinos and Latinos that have their own shows
or or in projects, and it's like, how are they
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not lift being up our people? It's great to lift
up everyone else. I totally think we should, but it's like,
how do you not see behind the camera that there
isn't your own people? And how it just it just
shocks me. It fucking shocks me, because you're totally right,
that's that's part of the problem, and it's truly exhausting
(27:19):
to do that work, because that was the thing about
women Crush Wednesdays. It was it came from that that
place of like how am I trying? Like I'm trying
to do comedy and and work in diverse places, but
people aren't allowing me to. I have to be the
only woman on the show, I have to be the
only Latino, or I can only do Latino shows, or
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I have on the token this or whatever. And I
hated that because I was like, there's so many funny women,
why can't we all be hunish not all of us
be on a show? But how often there was especially
fifteen years ago there was six guys and and one
woman on a show, and and then and back then,
it was like it's you and Ali Wa and we
already got Ali Wong, so you'll do the next one.
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And I'm like, why can't we both be on the
same show? What if I'm not available next month? Like
the ship don't make no fucking sense? And I had that.
I had someone say that to me recently about a
Latino show. We're doing this Latino show, and I was like, Oh,
I'm unavailable, and he goes, all right, we'll get you
on the next one. And then I came back like
a few days later, like, hey, I'm available now can
I still do that show? Did you already feel the spot?
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And he goes, oh, we already have a woman on
the show. And I was like what what? I was like,
you have one woman on the show and I can't
be on the show now, Like like the Latinos are
still doing the bullshit that was happening fifteen years ago
in the white spaces, and now the white spaces are
trying to be more diverse. They're not great at it,
but they're trying. I saw all that ship, And that's
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part of what Women Crushed was was I was trying
to put the work because I was like, there's funny
women everywhere, and because the comedy seems so segregated. But
I was like, I can I can see all because
I would go to all the scenes. I would that
was you know, that's what comedy as you do, all
the scenes, you do, all the shows, you do all
the stages. That's what I would do. And I'd be like,
I want her on my next show. I want I
(29:03):
want her, I want her, I want her. I want
her in every space because I know that there's enough
and there's also space for lifting up the people that
are coming up. Okay, you don't have ten minutes, bitch,
but you got a decent five. I'm gonna give you
five minutes, and you gotta rock that ship. I even
remember telling one white girl she fucking did terrible on
my show. I almost didn't rebook her because I was like,
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but I knew that the set that she sent in
was really funny. So I rebooked her like a year
later because I'm like, all right, she'll probably, you know,
have a little more experience by then. And she came
and she fucking crushed it. And I told her straight up,
because I'm sometimes too honest for my own good. I
was like, girl, you know what, I almost didn't rebook
you because you did so bad on the first show.
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I was like, but you killed it tonight. She was like,
you know what. I was so nervous. I had never
performed at the Hollywood Improv. That was my first time
performing in a comedy club. She was like, I was
so nervous that I that I did I ate ship
And I was like, oh, I forget, I forget that
I'm actually handing up her unities. Two people and they're
getting seen because at my show they would always be
industry watching. And it's one of those things where it's
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like when even when you do the work and you
have somebody sucks it up, that doesn't mean that you
shouldn't give them the chance. You know, you gotta keep
keep keep trying and trying because we're all in this
for the long or hopefully we're all those in this
for the long run. But with that, I do agree
that Latino they gonna be pulling each other up in
every direction, you know. Yeah, And this is fascinating to
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me too, because any chance I get to shoot on
men in the community, I will take it right so,
because part of what I'm hearing is that the o
G comedy gate keepers, who probably are the ones most
likely to create opportunities, have been like older cheek on
on men. I'm thinking, you know, the Paul Rodriguez is
and the cheeches and the chongs and the George Lopez
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and then this and that, like we know who they are,
you know what I mean, And especially kind of like
the way that this coincides with the me Too movement
and knowing how comedy guys have been really garbage just
women historically. Can we blame Latino men in particular for
the sorry state of comedy today? I think so, you know,
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and I got it. That's another shout. I gotta give
it to Felipe that motherfucker loves having at least a
woman on the show. One woman sometimes too, if you know,
because you know when you have a three person show,
you know, he has his his um host, that motherfucker's
been hosting him for him for years. Rodrigo Torre's shout
out to him. It's funny, but he's like, that's the host,
(31:29):
so he'll have a middle act and then Felipe right,
so he does. He tries to put a woman on
the show and tries to have her. He wants features,
he wants women that are so funny that they can
go on second and he's really good at it. He's
giving a lot of opportunities to a lot of women,
and not just Latina's, you know, but he is. He's
very much like on the radar, who is a funny
woman that is Latina. And God bless him because I
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know for a fact that that motherfucker looked at the
past and was like, why aren't we helping each other?
You know? And he's doing it. So that's the thing.
It does take people to help others because I know
my audience has expanded um through him. But I will
say also that these men that are in power, even
if it is just bookers in the middle of fu Usa,
(32:12):
like I had. Okay, one time I was opening for
Philippe and I was driving to the gig with a
friend who I've known for years. Me and him, super homies,
hell of funny Latino. I love him, And when we're
driving to the show, he's like, I can't wait for
you to meet this This book or you know, such
and such. He's so dope. He's gonna love you. He's
gonna think you're so funny. He's gonna book you on
(32:33):
all his shows. He has so many shows. Are gonna
make a lot of money working with him. And then
I go, we'll see. He kind of got offended. He
was like, what do you mean we'll see. I'm telling
you he's dope. I'm telling you he's cool. I'm telling
you gonna hook you up. I said, bro, we will see.
So get to the show. And we were doing to
shows like two nights, two different cities. I mean this home,
we were sharing hotels, we were driving together, right and um,
(32:57):
So we get to the first show and this booker
is upset that this full Chris my friend is having
to go on before me. Why is she going on
before you? That's disrespectful what he tells Chris. And Chris
is like, whoa buddy, you know, like she's really funny.
(33:18):
You have to trust Philippe. Felippe has her going on
as a feature because she is fucking funny. You have
to trust Felippe. He goes, I just think it's disrespectful.
Whatever in sidebar, that full try to show me my
my pay for that show. Phelippe was right there right
when he did it. And Phelippe even said, is all
the money there? And I said nope, and anyway, but
(33:39):
that whatever, I got my money whatever. But it was
the same guy, which is the character that this person is.
So then this full the second night, I think we
like get switched or something because it's full. I don't
remember what happened, what happens? What the really the real
story is this motherfucker was so upset that this Chris
(34:00):
friend of mine, he's known him for years, He's never
heard of me, So why would I go on after him.
He's so upset that he's going on before me, that
he's getting paid less to me, This booker pays my
friend out of his pocket extra money because he feels
so disrespected on behalf of this full Chris. Isn't that
fucking crazy? Because of me? Because of me and ps
(34:24):
I crushed these shows. The man's wife came up to
me and was like, you're so fucking funny girl. Oh
my god. Everyone loved me. People were coming up to me.
It didn't matter. He didn't care, and he just you know,
traditional chic got oh my cheese more bullshit. But I'll
always remember that, like, you're you're my people, you're at
my back, and you don't. You're you're fucking trying to
(34:46):
put me down, trying to make an awkwarry between me
and my friend. It's not fucking crazy paid amount of
his own money, that's ridiculous, but it's like some intense
commitment to the patriarchy because I keep the get like,
Damn Philippe is trying to uplift a woman to the
point where she's getting paid more than the other openers,
and this fool is like, nah, man, that's not how
(35:07):
we do things. What a question? Has this ever had
a woman performed before you? No? Oh? Like ever, who wait,
who are you talking about? Like the comedian friend Chris Chris? Yeah,
like or the guy that was upset, Like, has a
(35:28):
woman performed before him? Like a comedian, he's just a
guy that runs shows. This is a motherfucker that has
access to providing income for other people. He's yeah, I mean,
it's like, it's crazy. It's crazy to think about that ship.
It's also crazy because you know, uh, prop sixteen, it's
(35:49):
a prop sixteen. Yeah, that it's it's reversing that, um
how they struck down in firm and of action with
Prop two nine, And so we're voting on that for
this election, and you vote yes to repeal that because
we should give opportunities to everyone. But I just keep
thinking about how um people go out of their way
(36:10):
to do so much discriminating And it's like, how often
does that man get discriminated against. It's like he's passing
that bullshit down. He doesn't see how fucking terrible it is,
and he's doing it to his own people, which makes
me wonder what the funk he's doing to other people? How?
How does he see black people? How does he see
white people better than he obviously sees men and women
(36:32):
as completely two different species. It's fucking crazy. I'm really
upset now, right, It's so true. It's like we're expected
to like take the brunt of that because oh, the
Latino men, the Latinos are getting discriminated again. So then
they come and you know, want to puns it up
for us, right, I try to us and harm us, bucket,
(36:54):
you know, it's crazy. It also tells me though, like
if that's like one example, bowl of one gate keeper
and then at like a taste maker in some ways
because exactly he's choosing lineups and things. So how does
the actual comedy and the show suffer when fools like
that are the ones deciding who's performing and exactly. And
(37:17):
then think about the audience, because if say the three
of us were like, oh, we're gonna go to the
they have monthly comedy shows, let's just go because we
just want to go see comedy. And then because that
motherfucker is the one book in these shows, imagine the
bullshit we're watching right watching fucking, straight up carbon bullshit
comedians because this fool doesn't think women are funny, doesn't
(37:40):
think you know what I mean, No taste, no taste,
no taste. It's a it's a trickle down effect. And
that's why it's so frustrating, because I also think about
how often I've gotten messages from comedians in the past
that you know, stayed where they were, um, didn't keep going, uh,
(38:01):
only dabble with it now, And how often I get
messages from people like that in the past that are like,
you are I can't believe you're still doing it. You're
so strong. This game is really fucking hard. There's so
much people don't know, and you're still doing it. You're
still trying to make people laugh, You're still trying to
have a message, You're still trying to like do your
and still be you and still be happy. And I'm
always like, yeah, you're right, she fucking I am strong.
(38:22):
This ship it sucks. Yeah, I mean absolutely, speaking of
you know, we would love to support you and all
of your upcoming work. We hear that you have a
special that you're going to be a part of, So
can you talk to us, talk to our audience about
that so they can support they can go stream it.
I'm so excited. So Sarah Cooper, who does all those
Trump Trump lips sinking videos, she got a Netflix special
(38:44):
that's being produced by Animal Productions, which I'm sorry, Animal Pictures,
which is uh Natasha Leone and Maya Rudolf's company, and
so uh they and they reached out to me to
have a little role. And it's really cool because I
was texting with Natasha because you will, because I was like,
can I post something soon because I really want to
post these pictures I have and she was like yeah,
I posted. She's like, you're in it, in it I
(39:06):
was like, oh, I'm in it and it so that's
coming out Tuesday. Uh was October um and it's it's
called Everything's Fine and that should be really a lot
of fun. And I'm very excited, um because I actually
I'm not allowed to say what I played, but what
I can say is I have a scene with Helen
Mirren and that was cool and I'll probably post that
(39:29):
picture soon. Um. Yeah, she was the fucking best. She
was so sweet. She had this hilarious um like she
was like how she gets along on sets. It's like
she's like, oh, you have to memorize everybody's name, and
you have to carry a bag of candy. And I
was like, oh my god, Helen Maren bribes people to
like her. I love it was like, I love her
(39:51):
candy to Everybody's so cute and and making this Downe
is in it. I didn't have a scene with her,
but she's in it. Wow. Yeah, Johnson Vanessa isn't one
of the scenes. I'm in um mersa tomay Uh. It's
a really cool, really cool special and of course Maya, Natasha,
Fred Armison, of course they're all in it, um and
that's cool. So yeah, tune into that. Um. And then
(40:13):
I have my album The Woke Bully, which is available
for purchasing and streaming everywhere you listen to the Ship,
and that came out in last year and I'm still
very proud of it. It's still very good. Sometimes I'll
listen to it and I'm like, damn you were Hella laughing.
It was like two near Wendo and I was like,
I don't did that ship? That was a fun one. Yes,
(40:34):
it is a hilarious album. It's a comedy album, right,
that's what you call it. It's an album. And um. Also,
Marcella is just like the ill hip hop head and
I love him, Yes, And I love how that comes
out in your comedy and in The Woke Bully is
definitely infused in there, which I always appreciate. You know
What's funny because I don't consider myself a hip hop head.
(40:55):
I've always said I'm a hip hop little sister because
you know, like I learned from my brothers, you know,
because I wasn't like super into the hip hop or
rap when I was young. And you know what, did
you guys read the Mariah Carey book. Yeah, it's I
really want to listen to it as an audio book
because it's it's a lot childhood stuff is a lot.
(41:17):
I read that section hell is slow and uh, and
apparently when she's reading it, she gets very emotional, like
holding it back emotionally that kind of thing. So I'm
actually saving the audio. I'm gonna listen to the audio
book on a long trip um when I can just
like cry alone in the car um and yeah that
that she is so good. But she she you know,
(41:38):
I loved her as a kid, and my sister loved her.
We still I still have all the CDs from from
when we were kids, and she has this great little
uh section. I won't spoil it, but she just talks
about how she loved having rappers in her in her
all of her songs, which we know, but I keep thinking, like, damn.
I think she was probably one of the reasons I
(41:58):
was able to transit into like really appreciating rapping hip
hop because I was like, we love Mariah. My brothers were,
of course, were obsessed with the woutang, so like when
you know, yeah, when the worlds collided, you're just like, Okay,
I guess we can all listen to this and then
it kind of like you start bleeding into the other ship.
And I mean I was, I was an older team
when I got into wrapping hip hop, but yeah, I
(42:19):
mean I do. I always find it fascinating when people
consider me a hip hop app but I guess I do.
I do know more than the average person. But yeah,
I do love hip hop. Yeah, and I appreciate, you know,
seeing those parts of your personality come out, especially going
back to this idea of like Latina was in comedy
and what are the jokes about? And what's funny? And
(42:40):
I will scream at the next like Latina comedian whose
punchlines are just putting on a Spanish accent, Like the
accent itself is the punchline. Honestly, I hate that ship.
And it's so overdone. It's accents alone or not funny.
And today I was having lunch and I had, of
course cheatas you right, and that's it, and I'm joking, yeah, yeah,
(43:09):
we're done like whatevers. I mean, miha, And I was like, Mama,
that's exactly what we're talking about. I mean, and we
we get like we've had men on our I g lives,
like talk about the way we talk, right, because we
don't sound like, what what their ideas Latinas sound like
(43:32):
exactly because we're not sucking saying hot cheetos and mi
ha or not Latinas. It's also funny too because I also, uh,
because mama, you're what your third generation? Right? Yeah? Yeah,
so I what I find humorous because I don't know
if you guys know Lydia Popovitch. She is also I
want to say, third generations, very funny comedian, very funny
(43:54):
Latina comedian. And it's so funny to me because people
will they'll they'll they when they come to booking stuff,
they would rather have someone that looks like Mala, like Lydia,
because they're like, oh, she looks Latina And then they're like,
oh now, now tell us about your experience, with which
I'm third generation. I'm I followed on my dream fuck everybody,
(44:17):
and they're just like and then me, I'm fucking first generation,
Like yes, I like a motherfucker. But you know when
you look at me or like, well, she's not what
we are looking for, so we need a different look
so we can talk about the real experience and like,
I have the real experience. Are you crazy? Then? Are
you talking about It's like we're we're all Latinas. That's
(44:42):
what's fucking crazy is we are all Latinas. But the experience,
like the visual experience is what people are really trying
to consume right now, which is why it goes back
to like after Latinos, that whole conversation and you know,
anti colorism within Latino communities, and it's just like we
have We're barely there. We're barely starting that conversation, you know,
(45:02):
which is crazy. We're just decades behind, honestly, really and truly, Marcella,
thank you so much to keep going. I can keep
talking shit. Ye, I'll come back so we can keep
it going. Yeah, I love it. Maybe what we can
(45:24):
do is an Instagram live. We can get some input
from the audience and make fun of people in real time.
Let's do it. Marcella Guio, comedian, woke, bully, all around
bad ditch. Thank you so much for yes. And for
(45:47):
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iconic Beyonce impersonation that you can find on YouTube. I believe,
I think so. Yeah, I think it's still up all right,
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for having me. I'm so excited to finally be here.
It's it's a couple of years i've been I'm here finally,
although I'm coming for sure. Yeah, I'm excited. Thank you
for having me. Appreciate it. You guys, this is a
(11:03):
great podcast. Thank you. And Marcella. You actually attended one
of our maybe our first podcast party. Yes. Yes, it
was a very strange event. It was like it was cool,
not strange in a bad way, just like I think
like half of the room knew what was going on
in the other half was like, hey, I'm trying to dance,
(11:24):
say and it was like it was just kind of
it was just kind of fun to just you know,
stand in the back and watch it all kind of
go down. It was cool. Yeah, it was an experimental event.
A podcast party. What is a podcast party? So thank
you for being there though and supporting. So, Marcella, can
you introduce yourself a little bit for our audience in
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case they happen to live under a rock somewhere and
not know who you are. I mean a lot of
people don't know who I am. It's totally fine. Um,
I my name is Marcella. I'm a comedian. I've been
doing comedy for almost fifteen years, stand up comedy for
almost fifteen years. And I started in the Bay Area
from California, born and raised and um, currently doing well.
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I'm not currently doing comedy in l A because that's
not happening. But I was doing comedy l A. I
was running a really great weekly women's only show, Women
Crush Wednesdays. That was really fun. Um that's you know,
we're waiting for that to hopefully start up again. And
uh yeah, maybe you see me on two Dope Queen
season two, episodes three. I want to say, yeah, that's
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that's my intro. Yes, I attended. I went to Woman
Crush Wednesday the night that Nicole Buyer was performing. It
was so fun. Yeah, she's always fun, she's always she's
she she has an open door, uh invitation there, So
it's always nice to have her. She's fucking wild. She
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has another another amazing podcaster. I love. Why wouldn't you
date me? So, Marcella, you tweeted a few weeks ago,
a few days ago, whatever time is at that point,
it's not real. It's not real. Maybe I just tweeted it.
Maybe I just tweeted it. Yeah, about how comedic timing
doesn't really work on Zoom and I know you've been
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doing some Zoom shows, so can we talk about that
comedy and COVID? How's it working? How's it not working?
I have not been doing Zoom shows. I've been doing
like Zoom events, but not Zoom shows because I cannot,
I will not. I refuse to do stand up on
a Zoom show because there's a delay, and comedy you
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need the instant reaction, and uh, it just doesn't make
sense to me. Like I was telling somebody recently, how
like when we start doing common and even now, when
you experiment when new material you a delayed reaction is negative.
It means that the joke is either not funny, or
it's not easy to understand, or maybe you just need
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to change to word, um, but a day delayed reaction.
We've and you know, I've been doing comedy so long,
A delayed reaction fox with my head. You know, I'm
sure like some of the people who've only been in
comedy for a few years are probably fine with it
because they're just they're not there. It's easier to adapt
when you've only been doing it for a few years.
But I've been doing it too long. But I'm like,
I do zoom stand up. I'm just gonna get super upset.
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I'm gonna get mad. Like I don't know if you've
ever if you've only been to the Nicole Buyer Women crush,
I have a tendency to get upset on stage and
take it out on the audience and it doesn't go
my way, which is sometimes funny and sometimes it's fucking terrible.
So I I just can't imagine. I just I can't
imagine enjoying the fucking delayed response, you know, right, Yeah, No,
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I can totally see that. I mean, even just trying
to record a freaking podcast episode a nightmare. Yeah, especially
like you know, when you're dependent on or not dependent,
but you work on people's energies, right when you're integrating people.
Uh and I are, you know, doing our little thing
or back and forth and the delay does not it
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doesn't work. If it doesn't help, it's not cute. Well
because yeah, because then you end up stepping on each
other and interrupting when you think someone was pausing for
for an opening, but you don't know if they're just
completing their thought. And it's just it's sucked up. It's
it's not fun, it's not smooth. It takes away some
of the fun. But what are you gonna do? What
are you gonna do? So zoom events, But you've also
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done some parking lot shows, Yeah, I did. I was
that girl. I was open with barsa okay comedian who
has both in English and Spanish special right now on Netflix.
Check that out, y'all. And if you haven't already, and um,
he invited me. Actually I did stand up at a
comedy club the week before and saw like City Utah.
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Because they have like a low number of cases. They've
been running the show since or I should say running
the club since May. And they are, you know, following
all the COVID guidelines and so um. After talking to
another communyo who had been headlining there. I agreed to
open for Phelipe, and that was a little nerve wracking
because it was like, we're inside and I'm not usually
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being inside with a bunch of people. And it was
a three hundred seater but they only had a hundred
and fifty people in the room and it was a
little uncomfortable. Um, And but it was fine, you know.
It was also like, fucking what a trip to just
be able to do stand up, tell jokes and get
a reaction. I was, so it was and I did great,
by the way, So I just wanted everybody hearing to
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know you can take a long gass break. I'm still
do very good if you were good at what you do. Um.
But it was that was that was sucking a mind funk.
But it was fun and it was a really good
way to transition into doing the driving shows because the
driving shows fucking sucked. They fucking suck. They are not
good for the performer or just no way. I mean,
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I totally the only reason I did it because I
trust Phelipe. I know his audience is hell of fun
and hello dope and hello chill. So I was like,
I'm I know, I'll be fine. I know my material
will be fine. It's just that I'm gonna have to
talk myself into again what I just said. When I'm
on stage and the audience, I don't have a reaction,
I'll take it out on them, right, and sometimes it's
good and sometimes it's bad. So I had to tell myself,
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you're not going to get a reaction period at all,
so you need to not be a bit about it
to the next joke. So that's what I did, and
it was it wasn't fun, And it was how funny
because the first night was two hundred cars, which was
a lot of cars. You kind of only just vibe
off the people in the front row that are sitting
on their truck beds or if they're sitting outside of
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their car or whatever. But the second show is four
hundred cars. Four cars. It's a lot of cars, huge
field of cars. And Felippe's wife after my set, uh
because from where she was standing, she heard a lot
of laughter. Right, But when you're outside the sound goes up.
It's not going towards me. So I get off stage
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and she goes myrself, wasn't this so much more fun
than yesterday? I said, No, it wasn't. It was just
as terrible as it was last night. This ship is
not fun, but I get it. These people are paying
a lot of money to be entertained because they want
to get out of the house. So you do your job.
It's the first time in a long time I'm like,
I'm doing a job, you know, and not my favorite
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way to do stand up. Yeah, I mean I can
imagine we're all kind of just adapting, you know, as
as we can. Um. You know you so far you've
mentioned who We Love and Philippe Espasa, you know, and
you're also a prominent comedian right in the Latin X field,
in the field in general, where would you say the
current landscape is for Latin X comedy if you can
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even like, is there a landscape? Like is everyone doing
their own thing? What do you think? What's your opinion?
I think right now it's it's still pretty much how
it's always been. It's either you're fucking doing the classic
Mexican material, because that's what a lot of the material
in America has been about, you know, um, or you're
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doing your thing and you're not being included in the
Latino community, right because you know, you're either fucking us
or you're fucking you're fucking trying to be a thing.
You know, like it's never you're not allowed to just
be what you are. And I'm I'm thankful that like
Ider Rodriguez is out there, you know, doing her fucking thing,
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being a fucking loud and proud Latina and and helping
pave the way. But you know that also took Tiffany
Hattish bringing her up, giving her special, because we know
that I wasn't gonna get a special from these fucking
white people. They weren't gonna everyone the way she talks,
this is not I mean the way I talk. I'm
not funding Galina right now, and so that's just the
way it is. So it's the landscape is interesting because
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it's it's literally a landscape. It's just it's a wide
field of a lot of people doing a lot of
different things, but it's still very divided. It's still very
we either look Latino or you don't. And then according
to that, they're gonna put you where they think you
should be. And that's what's frustrating, because it's like there's
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a lot of comedians who are very good who aren't
getting the recognition they deserve because they're not doing, you know,
material that appeals to the Latino audience that the the
gatekeepers feel like they needs to be, you know, addressed.
When it's like Latina, we like everything, we like all
the things. We I was talking to somebody recently about how,
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especially with Latinos, we we because she this girl just
got a really nice, great position at a bright, shining
new company and they're doing great. She's doing great, but
she was tripping, you know, because she was like I
just as as Latina, like, I feel very uncomfortable and
it's hard for me, and I'm scared, and i feel
like I have imposter syndrome. I'm like, why why you're
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in You're in the comedy world. She's not a comedian,
but she's in the comedy world. And I'm like, as
as Latino, we've had to consume white mainstream media, We've
had to consume black mainstream media, and we've consumed the
fucking Latino. We even't consumed Sabel, though he got their
whole lives. We've consumed our ship and their ship, and
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then somehow we're not allowed to be in any of it,
you know, especially if you start dabbling on one side
or the other, right, but we are sometimes more qualified
than ain't anybody because especially in that position that she's in,
where it's like she gets to say what is funny
and what's good because she has consumed so much over
the years from all the cultures, all the backgrounds, especially
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in mainstream which for the most part, in mainstream American
entertainment is just white and black, and really has been
predominantly white because very black in the nineties, but then
that fucking disappeared and now starting to come back to
be Hella black helldo a lot of the great ship
for them, which is sucking, exciting and cool. We support it.
And then there's us where people are still like treating
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us like it's the fucking indies. They're saying. I mean, look,
I'm excited about that Selena series on Netflix, but it's
like there's other latina's ye that have done great ship,
great ship. We We've we got all the series on her,
you know, absolutely, how any more series on white Latinas
do we need? Not more? But I just unsell my
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own show, I think so well, you know, I like
definitely like hear what you're saying, because I am like
someone that consumes Latin X media, but I wouldn't what
what you consider like the slapstick Latin X comedy is
not what appeals to me. So I'm always looking for
something like, well, that's not really my humor, you know,
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And so I'm trying to find my own lane of
what do I like and how can I consume it?
How can I support the comedians that are doing what
I like? Yeah, but that's what's tough is that there's
so much out there, and for us there's there's limited
right not just as consumers, but as as performers, as
as as entertainers, and so it's it's just gets really
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tricky because you you want to support everyone, but everyone
doesn't want to support you, you know. That's that's what
sucks about being especially And I don't know because I'm
first generation. So when I was a kid, you know,
I was learning English, and I was like, let's consume
all the humor that we can because in our household,
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we love to laugh, of course, so we would consume
so much. Like we weren't allowed to watch sm NOL,
but we could watch and Living Color, you know, we
would watch all those goofy as eighties movies we were
I got so much diversity and comedic entertainment that it
like blows my mind that it's still so fucking separated,
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you know, because it's like we can all, we can
all be in this, but it just it just doesn't
work that way, which sucks, but it should, alright, y'all.
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in particular representations of Black women in these different sorts
of sitcom. And what I marvel at definitely is like,
I have so much respect for Black Hollywood and the
way that they've built for themselves and for each other
and put one another on. And I wish that in
Latin X spaces there wasn't such a desire to aspire
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to whiteness and blending into whiteness. Because we've had our
big superstars, like we can look back and look at
the j Los into this and that. What have they
sort of created for the next generation? Which exactly, And
that's the problem. That's the problem. And it goes back
to because, um, when when that list came out about
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Latin I there's no Latin X showrunners and that list
that came out, it's a bunch of a bunch of
different backgrounds, but apparently no latinos. Right. But I'm curious,
like who's helping the latin X showrunners, because like, Okay,
I don't want to talk to anybody, but there's quite
a few Latinos and Latinos that have their own shows
or or in projects, and it's like, how are they
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not lift being up our people? It's great to lift
up everyone else. I totally think we should, but it's like,
how do you not see behind the camera that there
isn't your own people? And how it just it just
shocks me. It fucking shocks me, because you're totally right,
that's that's part of the problem, and it's truly exhausting
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to do that work, because that was the thing about
women Crush Wednesdays. It was it came from that that
place of like how am I trying? Like I'm trying
to do comedy and and work in diverse places, but
people aren't allowing me to. I have to be the
only woman on the show, I have to be the
only Latino, or I can only do Latino shows, or
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I have on the token this or whatever. And I
hated that because I was like, there's so many funny women,
why can't we all be hunish not all of us
be on a show? But how often there was especially
fifteen years ago there was six guys and and one
woman on a show, and and then and back then,
it was like it's you and Ali Wa and we
already got Ali Wong, so you'll do the next one.
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And I'm like, why can't we both be on the
same show? What if I'm not available next month? Like
the ship don't make no fucking sense? And I had that.
I had someone say that to me recently about a
Latino show. We're doing this Latino show, and I was like, Oh,
I'm unavailable, and he goes, all right, we'll get you
on the next one. And then I came back like
a few days later, like, hey, I'm available now can
I still do that show? Did you already feel the spot?
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And he goes, oh, we already have a woman on
the show. And I was like what what? I was like,
you have one woman on the show and I can't
be on the show now, Like like the Latinos are
still doing the bullshit that was happening fifteen years ago
in the white spaces, and now the white spaces are
trying to be more diverse. They're not great at it,
but they're trying. I saw all that ship, And that's
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part of what Women Crushed was was I was trying
to put the work because I was like, there's funny
women everywhere, and because the comedy seems so segregated. But
I was like, I can I can see all because
I would go to all the scenes. I would that
was you know, that's what comedy as you do, all
the scenes, you do, all the shows, you do all
the stages. That's what I would do. And I'd be like,
I want her on my next show. I want I
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want her, I want her, I want her. I want
her in every space because I know that there's enough
and there's also space for lifting up the people that
are coming up. Okay, you don't have ten minutes, bitch,
but you got a decent five. I'm gonna give you
five minutes, and you gotta rock that ship. I even
remember telling one white girl she fucking did terrible on
my show. I almost didn't rebook her because I was like,
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but I knew that the set that she sent in
was really funny. So I rebooked her like a year
later because I'm like, all right, she'll probably, you know,
have a little more experience by then. And she came
and she fucking crushed it. And I told her straight up,
because I'm sometimes too honest for my own good. I
was like, girl, you know what, I almost didn't rebook
you because you did so bad on the first show.
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I was like, but you killed it tonight. She was like,
you know what. I was so nervous. I had never
performed at the Hollywood Improv. That was my first time
performing in a comedy club. She was like, I was
so nervous that I that I did I ate ship
And I was like, oh, I forget, I forget that
I'm actually handing up her unities. Two people and they're
getting seen because at my show they would always be
industry watching. And it's one of those things where it's
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like when even when you do the work and you
have somebody sucks it up, that doesn't mean that you
shouldn't give them the chance. You know, you gotta keep
keep keep trying and trying because we're all in this
for the long or hopefully we're all those in this
for the long run. But with that, I do agree
that Latino they gonna be pulling each other up in
every direction, you know. Yeah, And this is fascinating to
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me too, because any chance I get to shoot on
men in the community, I will take it right so,
because part of what I'm hearing is that the o
G comedy gate keepers, who probably are the ones most
likely to create opportunities, have been like older cheek on
on men. I'm thinking, you know, the Paul Rodriguez is
and the cheeches and the chongs and the George Lopez
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and then this and that, like we know who they are,
you know what I mean, And especially kind of like
the way that this coincides with the me Too movement
and knowing how comedy guys have been really garbage just
women historically. Can we blame Latino men in particular for
the sorry state of comedy today? I think so, you know,
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and I got it. That's another shout. I gotta give
it to Felipe that motherfucker loves having at least a
woman on the show. One woman sometimes too, if you know,
because you know when you have a three person show,
you know, he has his his um host, that motherfucker's
been hosting him for him for years. Rodrigo Torre's shout
out to him. It's funny, but he's like, that's the host,
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so he'll have a middle act and then Felipe right,
so he does. He tries to put a woman on
the show and tries to have her. He wants features,
he wants women that are so funny that they can
go on second and he's really good at it. He's
giving a lot of opportunities to a lot of women,
and not just Latina's, you know, but he is. He's
very much like on the radar, who is a funny
woman that is Latina. And God bless him because I
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know for a fact that that motherfucker looked at the
past and was like, why aren't we helping each other?
You know? And he's doing it. So that's the thing.
It does take people to help others because I know
my audience has expanded um through him. But I will
say also that these men that are in power, even
if it is just bookers in the middle of fu Usa,
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like I had. Okay, one time I was opening for
Philippe and I was driving to the gig with a
friend who I've known for years. Me and him, super homies,
hell of funny Latino. I love him, And when we're
driving to the show, he's like, I can't wait for
you to meet this This book or you know, such
and such. He's so dope. He's gonna love you. He's
gonna think you're so funny. He's gonna book you on
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all his shows. He has so many shows. Are gonna
make a lot of money working with him. And then
I go, we'll see. He kind of got offended. He
was like, what do you mean we'll see. I'm telling
you he's dope. I'm telling you he's cool. I'm telling
you gonna hook you up. I said, bro, we will see.
So get to the show. And we were doing to
shows like two nights, two different cities. I mean this home,
we were sharing hotels, we were driving together, right and um,
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So we get to the first show and this booker
is upset that this full Chris my friend is having
to go on before me. Why is she going on
before you? That's disrespectful what he tells Chris. And Chris
is like, whoa buddy, you know, like she's really funny.
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You have to trust Philippe. Felippe has her going on
as a feature because she is fucking funny. You have
to trust Felippe. He goes, I just think it's disrespectful.
Whatever in sidebar, that full try to show me my
my pay for that show. Phelippe was right there right
when he did it. And Phelippe even said, is all
the money there? And I said nope, and anyway, but
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that whatever, I got my money whatever. But it was
the same guy, which is the character that this person is.
So then this full the second night, I think we
like get switched or something because it's full. I don't
remember what happened, what happens? What the really the real
story is this motherfucker was so upset that this Chris
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friend of mine, he's known him for years, He's never
heard of me, So why would I go on after him.
He's so upset that he's going on before me, that
he's getting paid less to me, This booker pays my
friend out of his pocket extra money because he feels
so disrespected on behalf of this full Chris. Isn't that
fucking crazy? Because of me? Because of me and ps
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I crushed these shows. The man's wife came up to
me and was like, you're so fucking funny girl. Oh
my god. Everyone loved me. People were coming up to me.
It didn't matter. He didn't care, and he just you know,
traditional chic got oh my cheese more bullshit. But I'll
always remember that, like, you're you're my people, you're at
my back, and you don't. You're you're fucking trying to
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put me down, trying to make an awkwarry between me
and my friend. It's not fucking crazy paid amount of
his own money, that's ridiculous, but it's like some intense
commitment to the patriarchy because I keep the get like,
Damn Philippe is trying to uplift a woman to the
point where she's getting paid more than the other openers,
and this fool is like, nah, man, that's not how
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we do things. What a question? Has this ever had
a woman performed before you? No? Oh? Like ever, who wait,
who are you talking about? Like the comedian friend Chris Chris? Yeah,
like or the guy that was upset, Like, has a
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woman performed before him? Like a comedian, he's just a
guy that runs shows. This is a motherfucker that has
access to providing income for other people. He's yeah, I mean,
it's like, it's crazy. It's crazy to think about that ship.
It's also crazy because you know, uh, prop sixteen, it's
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a prop sixteen. Yeah, that it's it's reversing that, um
how they struck down in firm and of action with
Prop two nine, And so we're voting on that for
this election, and you vote yes to repeal that because
we should give opportunities to everyone. But I just keep
thinking about how um people go out of their way
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to do so much discriminating And it's like, how often
does that man get discriminated against. It's like he's passing
that bullshit down. He doesn't see how fucking terrible it is,
and he's doing it to his own people, which makes
me wonder what the funk he's doing to other people? How?
How does he see black people? How does he see
white people better than he obviously sees men and women
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as completely two different species. It's fucking crazy. I'm really
upset now, right, It's so true. It's like we're expected
to like take the brunt of that because oh, the
Latino men, the Latinos are getting discriminated again. So then
they come and you know, want to puns it up
for us, right, I try to us and harm us, bucket,
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you know, it's crazy. It also tells me though, like
if that's like one example, bowl of one gate keeper
and then at like a taste maker in some ways
because exactly he's choosing lineups and things. So how does
the actual comedy and the show suffer when fools like
that are the ones deciding who's performing and exactly. And
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then think about the audience, because if say the three
of us were like, oh, we're gonna go to the
they have monthly comedy shows, let's just go because we
just want to go see comedy. And then because that
motherfucker is the one book in these shows, imagine the
bullshit we're watching right watching fucking, straight up carbon bullshit
comedians because this fool doesn't think women are funny, doesn't
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think you know what I mean, No taste, no taste,
no taste. It's a it's a trickle down effect. And
that's why it's so frustrating, because I also think about
how often I've gotten messages from comedians in the past
that you know, stayed where they were, um, didn't keep going, uh,
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only dabble with it now, And how often I get
messages from people like that in the past that are like,
you are I can't believe you're still doing it. You're
so strong. This game is really fucking hard. There's so
much people don't know, and you're still doing it. You're
still trying to make people laugh, You're still trying to
have a message, You're still trying to like do your
and still be you and still be happy. And I'm
always like, yeah, you're right, she fucking I am strong.
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This ship it sucks. Yeah, I mean absolutely, speaking of
you know, we would love to support you and all
of your upcoming work. We hear that you have a
special that you're going to be a part of, So
can you talk to us, talk to our audience about
that so they can support they can go stream it.
I'm so excited. So Sarah Cooper, who does all those
Trump Trump lips sinking videos, she got a Netflix special
(38:44):
that's being produced by Animal Productions, which I'm sorry, Animal Pictures,
which is uh Natasha Leone and Maya Rudolf's company, and
so uh they and they reached out to me to
have a little role. And it's really cool because I
was texting with Natasha because you will, because I was like,
can I post something soon because I really want to
post these pictures I have and she was like yeah,
I posted. She's like, you're in it, in it I
(39:06):
was like, oh, I'm in it and it so that's
coming out Tuesday. Uh was October um and it's it's
called Everything's Fine and that should be really a lot
of fun. And I'm very excited, um because I actually
I'm not allowed to say what I played, but what
I can say is I have a scene with Helen
Mirren and that was cool and I'll probably post that
(39:29):
picture soon. Um. Yeah, she was the fucking best. She
was so sweet. She had this hilarious um like she
was like how she gets along on sets. It's like
she's like, oh, you have to memorize everybody's name, and
you have to carry a bag of candy. And I
was like, oh my god, Helen Maren bribes people to
like her. I love it was like, I love her
(39:51):
candy to Everybody's so cute and and making this Downe
is in it. I didn't have a scene with her,
but she's in it. Wow. Yeah, Johnson Vanessa isn't one
of the scenes. I'm in um mersa tomay Uh. It's
a really cool, really cool special and of course Maya, Natasha,
Fred Armison, of course they're all in it, um and
that's cool. So yeah, tune into that. Um. And then
(40:13):
I have my album The Woke Bully, which is available
for purchasing and streaming everywhere you listen to the Ship,
and that came out in last year and I'm still
very proud of it. It's still very good. Sometimes I'll
listen to it and I'm like, damn you were Hella laughing.
It was like two near Wendo and I was like,
I don't did that ship? That was a fun one. Yes,
(40:34):
it is a hilarious album. It's a comedy album, right,
that's what you call it. It's an album. And um. Also,
Marcella is just like the ill hip hop head and
I love him, Yes, And I love how that comes
out in your comedy and in The Woke Bully is
definitely infused in there, which I always appreciate. You know
What's funny because I don't consider myself a hip hop head.
(40:55):
I've always said I'm a hip hop little sister because
you know, like I learned from my brothers, you know,
because I wasn't like super into the hip hop or
rap when I was young. And you know what, did
you guys read the Mariah Carey book. Yeah, it's I
really want to listen to it as an audio book
because it's it's a lot childhood stuff is a lot.
(41:17):
I read that section hell is slow and uh, and
apparently when she's reading it, she gets very emotional, like
holding it back emotionally that kind of thing. So I'm
actually saving the audio. I'm gonna listen to the audio
book on a long trip um when I can just
like cry alone in the car um and yeah that
that she is so good. But she she you know,
(41:38):
I loved her as a kid, and my sister loved her.
We still I still have all the CDs from from
when we were kids, and she has this great little
uh section. I won't spoil it, but she just talks
about how she loved having rappers in her in her
all of her songs, which we know, but I keep thinking, like, damn.
I think she was probably one of the reasons I
(41:58):
was able to transit into like really appreciating rapping hip
hop because I was like, we love Mariah. My brothers were,
of course, were obsessed with the woutang, so like when
you know, yeah, when the worlds collided, you're just like, Okay,
I guess we can all listen to this and then
it kind of like you start bleeding into the other ship.
And I mean I was, I was an older team
when I got into wrapping hip hop, but yeah, I
(42:19):
mean I do. I always find it fascinating when people
consider me a hip hop app but I guess I do.
I do know more than the average person. But yeah,
I do love hip hop. Yeah, and I appreciate, you know,
seeing those parts of your personality come out, especially going
back to this idea of like Latina was in comedy
and what are the jokes about? And what's funny? And
(42:40):
I will scream at the next like Latina comedian whose
punchlines are just putting on a Spanish accent, Like the
accent itself is the punchline. Honestly, I hate that ship.
And it's so overdone. It's accents alone or not funny.
And today I was having lunch and I had, of
course cheatas you right, and that's it, and I'm joking, yeah, yeah,
(43:09):
we're done like whatevers. I mean, miha, And I was like, Mama,
that's exactly what we're talking about. I mean, and we
we get like we've had men on our I g lives,
like talk about the way we talk, right, because we
don't sound like, what what their ideas Latinas sound like
(43:32):
exactly because we're not sucking saying hot cheetos and mi
ha or not Latinas. It's also funny too because I also, uh,
because mama, you're what your third generation? Right? Yeah? Yeah,
so I what I find humorous because I don't know
if you guys know Lydia Popovitch. She is also I
want to say, third generations, very funny comedian, very funny
(43:54):
Latina comedian. And it's so funny to me because people
will they'll they'll they when they come to booking stuff,
they would rather have someone that looks like Mala, like Lydia,
because they're like, oh, she looks Latina And then they're like,
oh now, now tell us about your experience, with which
I'm third generation. I'm I followed on my dream fuck everybody,
(44:17):
and they're just like and then me, I'm fucking first generation,
Like yes, I like a motherfucker. But you know when
you look at me or like, well, she's not what
we are looking for, so we need a different look
so we can talk about the real experience and like,
I have the real experience. Are you crazy? Then? Are
you talking about It's like we're we're all Latinas. That's
(44:42):
what's fucking crazy is we are all Latinas. But the experience,
like the visual experience is what people are really trying
to consume right now, which is why it goes back
to like after Latinos, that whole conversation and you know,
anti colorism within Latino communities, and it's just like we
have We're barely there. We're barely starting that conversation, you know,
(45:02):
which is crazy. We're just decades behind, honestly, really and truly, Marcella,
thank you so much to keep going. I can keep
talking shit. Ye, I'll come back so we can keep
it going. Yeah, I love it. Maybe what we can
(45:24):
do is an Instagram live. We can get some input
from the audience and make fun of people in real time.
Let's do it. Marcella Guio, comedian, woke, bully, all around
bad ditch. Thank you so much for yes. And for
(45:47):
those of you who don't know, Marcella does do an
iconic Beyonce impersonation that you can find on YouTube. I believe,
I think so. Yeah, I think it's still up all right,
uh and that's it alright, Look, Mortis, thank you so
much for tuning into another Cup Radio. The countdown for
episode one hundred continues and we have something in store.
(46:09):
We're working on it. The ideas are brewing. We're so
close to a hundred episodes and you know that we
love to celebrate a milestone, so check that out. We'll
let you know what we have planned and thank you
once again for tuning in. We'll catch you next time
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