July 12, 2023 • 46 mins
Welcome back to Season 8! In this brand new capítulo, we catch up on local happenings during our time off. We cover the Writer's Strike, Dodger's Pride Night & the Flamin' Hot Cheeto Movie.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Lokata Radio is a radiophonic novella.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Which is just a very extra way of saying a podcast.
I'm Viosa m and I am Mala.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Munios Lokatra Radio is your Brima's favorite podcast hosted by
us Mala and Viosa.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
We're two ig friends turned podcast partners, breaking down pop culture, feminism,
sexual wellness, and offering fresh takes on trending topics through
nuanced interviews with up and coming LATINX creatives.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Known as Las Lokatas, Las Mammis of Mitin Bullshit and
Las Porcasters Prosas. We were podcasting independently since twenty sixteen,
but joined iHeartMedia's Microtura network in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
This year, we're continuing to share stories from the LATINX community.
Partodo el Mundo, Welcome to season eight. Are you are
you listening?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
O La la Loka Motes, Welcome to season eight of
Loka Tora Radio. I'm Viosa and I'm Mala. You're tuning
in to Capitolos one sixty three and.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
This is the very first episode of Loka toa Radio
Season eight.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Today we're catching up with all of you listening and
welcome you to a brand new season.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And with the new season, of course, as you know,
comes a new theme.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
If you haven't watched the full skit yet, head over
to at Loka Dora Underscore Radio on all socials to
watch the full clip. You know that we love a theme.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yes, this was such a fun skit, video promo everything. Yes,
this is all about having a podcast and the way
that we're bringing light and love into your lives when
you listen to us. And we, of course were inspired
by a skit from the Share Show called I'm a Woman.
(01:59):
If you haven't seen the original, look it up. It's fabulous.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, and we just loved the glamour, the aesthetic, the
wit of Share and Raquel Welch. So we were very
much inspired by the glamour the song. It's like kind
of sing songy, like like you talk sing and Mama
made me singodcast.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
S a SG.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Are you listening?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yes, it was so fun. We rewrote the lyrics and
instead of saying I'm a woman w O M A N,
which Sharon Raquel sing in the original skit, we changed
it to We're a podcast p O D C A
S T. And we went to the best singer. We
know Chris Sol to not only help us put the
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song together, but Chrisol literally sat with us and vocal
coached us like nope by note, word by word, and
that's the product that you see that you hear at
the end. It's Grisol literally coaching us through it.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Imagine we become pop stars. Girl, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Crazier things have happened. I'm saying true. I'm saying, don't
give me ideas.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Mala would one percent make us go on tour with
this one thirty second, sixty second song.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It's enough. There's other one hit wonders have made like
legendary names for themselves off of one song.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I feel like now we've very much set ourselves up
to perform this like live. Yeah, I mean I will
be lip syncing because my voice could never but it's
okay with the right vocal coaching. I got there.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, we laid down the track. Everybody lip syncs. It's
an accepted thing. Who cares? It sounds fun? All the
all of our favorite drag queens are lip syncing for
their lives. This is why not us.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
This is so true. So aside from getting ready for
season eight and filming visuals. We've been super busy over here.
We had like our off season or downtime, but we
were definitely not off and we definitely didn't really have downtime. No.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I mean, you literally graduated with a master's degree from
the University of Southern California. I did.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
The Obamas were at my graduation.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Screaming, among others. I'm sure it was a star studed affair, truly,
and I thought what was really fascinating about your graduation
is that there was no like limit on who could go, right,
Like other graduations, each grad gets like five tickets and
you have to choose who can attend. But at USC,
they're like, no, the whole city's coming.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Come one, come on.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
It was wild.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
It was.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I mean, the graduation itself was very beautiful.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I felt very short and sweet. I don't know how
it felt for y'all, but like for me, it felt
like very quick, less than two hours, a little over
one hour. It was very chaotic obviously at the end,
like trying to find everybody. But I thought that the
graduation itself was very lovely.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I had a lot of fun, like walking with my
cohort and just walking into General. Your sister actually designed
my cap?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Oh yes, yeah, so cute. I see it on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yes, I asked her to draw or paint our logo
with the rose and teeth, and then it just says
balas locas because that is who I do everything for.
It's for y'all, the crazy bitches, the crazy women, the
so called lokas who are not really locas. But you know,
head back to locup Is Demologies if you want to
know more. People are so fun. That was really fun.
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And then just after the graduation, it has just been
NonStop like other graduations. My partner graduated, he got his master's, parties, weddings,
my best friend got married. It's just been crazy. It's
been very wild, very social, and I'm exhausted. My social
battery is depleted. But it was a really fun, incredible
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graduation and wedding season. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Well I can't tell because you look amazing, Thank you,
thank you. You would never know. No, it's been it's
been a really fun, like kick off to the summer. Honestly,
it's been kind of cold and downcast, but there's been
so much going on that it's still been a really
fun time.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, I've also just been transitioning into just life like
now just having Lokata on my plate, and that is
obviously a full servying of lots of different things. And
so I, you know, have just been like reflecting over
the last couple of weeks and realizing that I'm recovering
from seven years of burnout and not just graduation and
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not just grad school and having multiple jobs. It's like
seven years of like running myself into the ground but
keeping it cute and keeping it going. So I'm just
easing into the summer and easing into work and trying
to give myself as much balance as possible. And I
think that I'm doing a good job.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You're doing a fabulous job. I mean, what you're describing
is so real. When I quit my job in twenty twenty,
I entered into what I have called my hippie era, yeah,
because it was like, damn, I'm exhausted, yeah, from my
entire life. Yeah, Like, and it was the first time
I had ever not been in school, not been working
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full time, and it was pandemic. So there was this
moment where I was kind of just like almost grateful
that I wasn't expected to be anywhere because that is
that can be so draining, And you were dividing your
time and being in a bunch of different places between
your job and your school and the podcast. So I
totally feel you, girl, because you deserve the rest.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yes, I'm yeah, you were in your hippie era. I'm
in my like lounging era, Like I'm taking naps in
the middle of the day, like a thirty minute cat nap.
I'm lounging, trying to get sun, trying to be by
the pool, like reading a little more throughout the day.
So yeah, I'm really just trying to ease into life
and work and create a new system for myself, like
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as we've talked about on the podcast over the years,
like we don't have to work a nine to five
and you know, be under the system of capitalism. Obviously
we have to do things, but we can do them
at our own pace and as long as we get
them done. So I'm trying to implement that more as
we build and grow this year.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, And if anything we've learned, it's that we cannot
rush success, right, Like it literally takes years and just
chipping away at it and continuing to work at it,
which I think, being in season eight, I'm so grateful
for that understanding. Yes, like the work will still be
there tomorrow, and we could get any email, any phone call,
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and we have gotten them. Actually recently, Ella.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Is dying to tell you something that she's not allowed
to do yet once again, as.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You know, she does this once again new secrets that
I cannot share. But just know we have even more
announcements coming in the future.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Speaking of you have been busy being your little commie
sol so all over the Southwest. So tell me more.
I know you were traveling, you were booked, you were
doing shows, tell me more.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, So I got to start. I had my first
show like outside of LA in Bakersfield at the Well
and it was so fun. And it's interesting because for
LA comics, I guess Bakersfield, San Diego, the Central Valley,
the Bay Area, those are some of the first towns
that comics will travel to. And once you've gone to
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those places, now it's like, oh, you're on the road.
So when I booked my Bakersfield show, Marcella shout out
Marcella at Guayo. She comments on my Instagram when I
like post about the Bakersfield show at the Well and
she's like, are girls on the road. So I'm like, yes,
my first road gig. Even though it's my family lives there,
Like I go there all the time, Like it's only
two hours outside of LA, it's considered like a road gig.
(09:52):
So that was a really fun show because I had
like fifteen family members there. Yeah, and they had a
great time. I had a good set. I was grateful
because there's nothing worse than like I've always dreaded inviting
people to a show and then I bomb, and then
it's like, well, why did I even invite you guys?
How embarrassing, But that was not the case. And then
from there, me and like seven other comedians who I've
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met at Chatterbox, including like Stevevona Delgado, we co hosted Chatterbox.
We went to Austin for a comedy trip and I
ended up doing a show out there that a bunch
of you listeners went to because I met some of
you guys at Austin. I cannabis co sold out show.
We did like an LA takeover, so it was just
all eight of us and I headlined. It was very fun.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Mala and Friends.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Mala and Friends is basically what it was.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, it was very cute, It looked fabulous, it was fun,
it was super fun.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I'll be in Modesto on July twenty eighth, so like
you guys, look forward to that at the State Theater.
I'm posting the flyer and I'll put the ticket link
on my link tree. But yeah, that's been me recently.
So I'm going to Guadalajara this so by the time
this is out, I'll probably have already gone. Yeah, I'll
tell you guys about it upon my return.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yes, yes, I love that. I love that. I love
that you have You've been traveling a little bit already.
This summer summer is just starting. What else have you
been up to. I know that there's a new initiative
by the La Times, a LATINX initiative called de los.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yes, which is also launching in the midst of like
broader things happening at the La Times. We're actually going
to talk about the La Times a lot in this episode.
The Loos is a new LATINX vertical that sort of
like has spawned out of like the LATINX Files and
the Latino Caucus at the La Times and a lot
of journalists who for many years have been working to
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have more visible LATINX representation, not only like on the
masthead and in the newsroom, but in the content that
is being shared from the La Times. So the loos
is all about Latinidad in La and they've hired a
bunch of creators, content creators. I make videos about like
our Latinxla for the Loss on Instagram, reels and on TikTok.
(12:07):
So I have a video out which is actually about Chatterbox,
because I consider Chatterbox to be right now the mecha
of Latino stand up comedy in La County. There's no
other place that's doing it like Chatterbox, and it's been
ten years. So you can check out that video. Follow
the Loss on Instagram and on TikTok. And once when
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the loss launched, it like happened in the midst of
massive like potential layoffs at the La Times. We were
on Twitter one day and saw a bunch of Times journalists,
especially the Latino Times journalists that we follow, tweeting about
how they received, like out of nowhere, a notice that
they were being let go. They were like letting go
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over sixty people, including some of their only Spanish speakers
in the photo department, copy editors, audience engagement folks. So
it's like wacky time, not a good time. And the
La Times is not the only people laying off staff.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, I mean, as you all know, there have been
layoffs going on the last couple of months in media.
So it's just a really tough time for journalists, especially
as I mean, I'm super super grateful that we have
built our own and like I graduated not having to
be on the job search. So I really feel for
like the journalists that just graduated, folks in my cohort
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that are like trying to figure out what their next
move is, because it can feel really bleak and very
grim right now in the journalism and media landscape. And
you know, Gimlet, who was bought out by Spotify a
couple years ago, also had layoffs. And LAist, one of
our favorite local public radio stations news outlets here in
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La let go a lot of their staff and their
podcast department was hit really badly. Some of our friends
were laid off, so we feel for them and we're
sending them our best. So it's just been rough for
LA journalists, for LA folks working in media across the board.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, in podcasting writers as we know, the WGA, the
Writers Build of America. The writers are on strike and
have been on strike now for what like fifty.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Days, yeah, since May third, I believe.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
At the time of this recording. And it doesn't and
I think my understanding is they voted to approve their strike, right,
it seems that they're going to continue to strike for
the foreseeable future until some concessions are made and protections
are put in place from the studios and big execs
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so writers get paid fairly, so that writers are not
being replaced by AI, so that writers are in proper
rooms and have the resources that they need to like
get the work done, and also so that writers are
getting their residuals. There's a lot of issues going on
with streaming platforms and shows as we've talked about, as
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we've covered on past episodes and past seasons, shows getting cut,
and a lot of that has to do with not
paying writers and actors. They're residuals, right, So it's all related.
And now here we.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Are here we are striking, Yeah, definitely in solidarity with
all unions. We support unions, We support labor unions and
solidarity with the writers, I think there's a really big
misconception and glamorizing of working in Hollywood and being a
writer for like a hit TV show. A lot of
these folks, like, as we know with streamers, they could
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be working on one season but aren't guaranteed a second season. Yeah,
especially if you're looking at Netflix for example, we know
that a lot of shows get canceled after season two,
season three, and there's in a lot of contracts. Because
I've been following writers that have shared like pay transparency,
like one year they can be making two hundred k,
and the following year they're making only thirty and that's
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not a livable wage in Los Angeles. So there's writer
Francesca Ramsey, and she has been really defending herself and
a lot of the writers because people in her comments
were conflating things like, well, you're making more than teachers,
and teachers should be paid more. No one is saying
that teachers shouldn't be paid more, or that writers should
be making more than anyone else. It's more so like
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creating a livable wage. I think that that's it's really
important to know, like why the workers, why the writers
are striking and unions just make everyone's lives better, especially
if you're a parent, if you're a caregiver, if you're
a head of household, like, unions just make your lives
better because if you're in a union, it affects literally
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everyone in your little ecosystem unit. So yeah, just you know,
get informed. Support the writers. Support the writers' strike.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, and teachers have unions, and the teachers strike all
the time.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
All the time.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
The teachers were just striking. We're just strike LAUA.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
You know, what we have talked about, and what we
should be talking about, is how writers are contributing to
the economy of Hollywood and Los Angeles. Writing and creating
movies and TV shows is the business. It's the industry,
and it gives a lot of people jobs. Cops don't
do that. Cops should not be making more than teachers
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or TV writers. Honestly, cops don't create anything. They don't
contribute to economy or industry. They don't make anything. They
don't provide a service. A cop is not going to
write you a TV show or teacher kid anything, or
fix your plumbing. Why are they making more than anybody? Yeah,
let's focus on that.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Also, just continuing like what's been happening in LA these
past couple months while we've been off season, Like obviously
by the time, y'all listen, Like Pride Month is over,
but Pride Month is all year round, y'all. It's pride here.
We're proud every day, We're proud all year long, So
we just want to recognize that. And also we have
an older episode called the buye Agenda, So if you
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haven't tuned in, listen to that one. We talk about
our journeys as queer folks, as bisexual women.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, and the by agenda is cursing through our veins
and through every episode like we're pushing the by Agenda constantly.
And so that being said, we want to talk about
hot topic, hot issue all over LA. The Sisters of
Perpetual Indulgence and the Dodgers and the Catholic Church. Yes,
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where to begin. You guys have heard about this, if
you're listening, if you're anywhere in California, you've probably heard
about that.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I mean, at this point it's nationwide. So for context,
the Dodgers have a Pride Night, They've been doing it
for many years. It's during Pride Month and they give
out a Hero's Award. And so this year they were
honoring the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence for their decades of
work of charity, work of HIV prevention and education. And
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they haven't SF chapter, they have an LA chapter, and
so their LA chapter was being honored. Conservatives caught wind
of it. Marco Rubio caught wind of it, like Va Viva,
like folks even outside of California and outside of LA
caught wind of it, and they said that they were
going to boycott the Dodgers. They were criticizing the Dodgers
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for giving this award, and so the Dodgers rescinded their
invite to the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. So then, of
course you got all the queer folks, all the allies
in the Dodgers' comments, you know, saying that this was wrong,
that the Sisters were Petual Indulgence deserve the Heroes Award,
Heroes award for all of their work you had. It
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just became very very contentious, lots of homophobia, of course,
and so then the Dodgers apologized and they were like,
just kidding, we apologized, We're committing They're like, we're committed
to like being better and being allies and blah blah blah,
and we still want to offer the award to the
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sisters of perpetual indulgence. The Conservatives, the Catholics all the same,
they were not happy with that. And so we're getting
closer to the Pride Night at Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
And the day of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
There's like the Catholic Church, the Archdiocese of Los Angeles
decides that they're going to have a prayer protest at
the one of the parking lots at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
And we were watching on Instagram horrified. Horrified. First of all,
we come to find that there's a lot of alt
right actors involved in putting this protest together. You know,
it's being labeled as a peaceful, prayerful protest, and you
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have former Sheriff Alex Vianueva there in his bihana, in
his cowboy hate making speeches, and some people that we
follow unfortunately also in attendance. Yeah, and making this about oh,
like we can't stand a mockery of the Catholic Church.
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What a mockery of Catholicism. And there's just so much
to talk about there. There's just so much to unpack.
We have talked a lot about the Catholic Church, you
and I over the years, because of course, as most
of you know, we're Catholic schoolgirls, Roman Catholic raised in
it for many years. We've done the Sacraments, we've done
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the Confirmation, we've gone to Mass, we've read the Bible
like we know, we get it. And what I know
to be true is the Catholic Church is a world power,
is a multinational corporation with its own country. Vatican City
is a country, and the Catholic Church still has not
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made amends for the centuries of child abuse and child
molestation at the hands of Catholic priests. The Catholic Church
is not a marginalized group. Catholics are not a marginalized
religious group at all. Let's stop pretending that that's the case.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, Catholics like colonize half the world, so like, let's
not pretend that they're a marginalized or oppressed.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Group at all.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
They are going to be okay, Yes, And from all
of the images the videos I saw from local news.
The La Times created a reel about what happened at
the protest that day, and there's a lot of Latinos.
It's not about just defending their religion. What it does
is it masquerades as like a defense of religion, but
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it allows for homophobia, blatant homophobia. There were You're going
to Hell signs being raised, and it's like a very
contentious time in this country where anti trans bills and
laws are being passed, books are being banned, and were
people are talking about quote groomers again, like the Glendale
School District, we're trying to initiate a pride recognition at
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their school. Again. Alt right folks started going to protests.
It's been very violent. It is a really really terrible
time to be queer. It's always been, but especially right
now any sliver of hope and being mainstream, Like it's
really dangerous again to be queer, to be trans in
this country, even in Los Angeles. And so for the
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quote allies or folks that are saying like, oh, it's
just because I'm defending my religion, because it's being made
a mockery Like no, like you're allowing for the homophobia,
for the transphobia, the bigotry to permeate and to be
on display and to be made okay again.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, And for those listening. We pulled the bio the
biography of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. This is from
their website. So from their website, the Sisters of Perpetual
Indulgence are a leading edge order of queer and trans nuns.
We believe all people have a right to express their
unique joy and beauty. Since our first appearance in San
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Francisco on Easter Sunday nineteen seventy nine, the Sisters have
devoted ourselves to community service, ministry and outreach to those
on the edges, and to promoting human rights, respect for diversity,
and spiritual enlightenment. We use humor and irreverent wit to
expose the forces of bigotry, complacency, and guilt that chain
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the human spirit. What I love about this order of Nuns,
which is how they describe themselves, and you have more
backstory on their connection to nuns Catholic nuns when they
first founded back in the day in the seventies. What
I love is that they employ humor and humor. Comedy
at its core is supposed to be about punching up
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and making fun of the elite, those in power, and
so they're doing it from within and I think what
we're not acknowledging and what makes Catholics uncomfortable is there
is a place to make fun of Catholicism because Catholicism
that is punching up, you know, those are the Catholic
Church can be an oppressor, has been, can continue to be.
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And so it's it's fair game. It's up for grabs.
I love Jesus Christ Superstar and I love you know
what's the one with Whipy Goldberg's sister are come on.
The Catholic Church has been at the core of media
like and depictions of nuns and priests and Catholicism for years.
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There's a million TV shows and movies like it's it's
like it's fodder for these things.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
The problem, right and the problem for the Catholics, the
ones that are upset right now, it's who's doing it right.
And that's why it's like, just be fucking real. You're homophobic,
you're transphobic. You have a problem with who's doing it.
Because when y'all are out doing the Stations of the
Cross and having children enact the stations of the Cross,
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that's okay, that's okay to do, But anything else is mockery.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
It's mockery, like, let's recreate the crucifixion of Jesus Christ
with childs. Yeah, in front of the entire church community.
And that's okay, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
So just want to read I found when I was
doing my basic research as a human with a mind,
which I hope that some of these people do, but
they won't.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
On Google if you have a Wi Fi connection.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yes, So something that I found on their website, the
Sisters dot org is their origin story. And in nineteen
seventy six in Iowa, a convent of Roman Catholic nuns
lent some retired habits to the sugar Plum Fairies performing
their version of the Sound of Music. One year later,
one of the founders of Sister Vicious, Power Hungry Badge
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moved to San Francisco and brought those habits to the
streets of the Castro district. So that is the origin story.
The Catholic nuns lent retired habits. To my knowledge, right
or my deductive skills is telling me that the nuns
were okay with this being used as a performance.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yes, costumes, it's a costume by queer performers, queer entertainers.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
So this was this happened in nineteen seventy six, y'all.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, And look, I think also people forget like you
may be like some ultra conservative like Opus day like
Catholic like, but there are orders of nuns out there,
aside from the sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, that are highly progressive, yeah,
highly highly highly highly progressive, that fight for abortion rights,
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that fight for queer rights, that believe in women's rights.
Nuns also historically, like throughout the world, you're gonna find
that convents have been places where queer women have gone
so that they can exist and live without being forced
to get married. Like, nuns are not like necessarily the
ultra conservative people that you might be imagining them to be.
(28:10):
It's just not that's just not their role. And also
the Catholic Church historically has not taken care of their nuns, Like,
they don't help nuns to retire, they don't keep them
fed and clothed into their old age like notoriously, nuns
are left destitute in their old age, right, you know,
And so I don't know, there's just so much going
(28:30):
on here. Also, why do we expect the dodgers of
all institutions to like, I don't know, like protect your
religious beliefs or whatever. Why the Dodgers They're a sports team, right,
you know they're they're also a corporation. Yeah, before anything else.
They're not a religious group. I don't get it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I also wanted to go back and say, like a
historical figure that was a nun that was believed to
be queer because of her poetry was Yes, So like
there's a historical example of a queer nut.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, and there are others. And I mean Sojuana is
famous in Latino communities, and there's they've made TV shows
about her, They've made movies and documentaries about her. So
I don't know. I just think I'll basically get a grip,
like if you were at the protest, like you really
had nothing else better to do that day, then go
join Alex Vianueva and his like alt right pals to
(29:30):
go protest an order of nuns. Yeah, come on now, yeah,
let's get let's go. Let's go sit in it the
archdiocese and demand that they paid their teachers at Catholic
schools better. Those are teachers that don't have a union. Yeah,
you guys know that Catholic school teachers don't have a
union and they're horribly underpaid. Yes, let's let's go protest that.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, there's so many things like if you want to
demand more from your own religious from your own religious
in institution, like the archdiocese, Like there's so much more
that you could be doing if you really care about
the betterment of your fellow Catholics, of your fellow people, like.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, oh, and when Nacho Libre came out and Nacho
is literally a priest in Mexico who like has like
a little tryst with a nun in Carnacion and they
follow like, come on you guys, Like, yeah, that movie
was really fucking hilarious. Love that movie and so did
the rest of you, right, and where was where were
(30:31):
the protests right at the movie premiere because it was
making a mockery of the Catholic Church.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, and also break the Catholic Church has still not
made amends for the boarding schools no that abused physically
sexually Native children in Canada. Here in the US, Like,
there's so many atrocities and the Catholic Church is at
the root of them and they have not made amends.
(30:59):
I will recognize that the current pope has made some strides,
but there's like centuries worth of violence. Yes, and that's
what you need to focus on, because, as the trite
saying goes, like, don't throw rocks if you're in glass
if you're in a.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Glasshouse, don't throw stones and hide your hand.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yes, come on, he who is.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Without sin cast the first stone exactly.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
You think we can't quote scripture, bitches like, yes, we can.
Twelve years worth of Catholic school. It's ingrained in us.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
We know, we can't forget it. And that's why I
feel like we can talk.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yes, yes, you know, yes, And I like shared a
video that the La Times made and I was like,
I promise you that Catholics are not oppressed. And I
expected my dms to be on fire, but no, because
people fucking know, and the people that follow me know
they probably feel the same way I do. Slash. I
feel like you and I, like you said, can speak
(31:56):
on these things because we're not looking from the outside.
We were inside. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I still go to church with my grandma and my mom.
When they asked me to, I feel bad.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I get it. You have to go with mom and grandma. Natcha.
I get it.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Oh my god, it's such a thing still but yeah,
like and if you guys really know your church and
really know your faith and really no Catholicism, then you
would know all this stuff. Come on now, yeah, I'm
not buying it.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
No.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Wo Should we move on to Flame and Hot and
the Hot Cheetos? Another one, another.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Hot topic, another hot take. So we went to the
West Coast premiere of Flame and Hot. It was at
the Laalif Film Festival, the Los Angeles Latino International Film Festival,
one of our favorite events in Los Angeles. It was
Eva Longoria's directorial debut. Yes, Lynda vet Chavas is one
of the writers, the screenwriters. Past guest of Loka Full Transparency.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Oh yeah yeah, past guest of Lokata Radio. We interviewed
Linda Yvette Chavez and Marvin Lamoos during the Henhi fied Era.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Just launched their first season and it was during the
pandemic like April twenty twenty when we interviewed them and.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
We had both of them on at the same time.
Since then, Marvin and Linda have both gone on to
do more projects, Linda with Flamin' Hot starring Annie Gonzalez,
opposite Jesse John Garcia who plays Richard Montagnez and Marvin
has gone on to direct a feature film for Disney
Plus called Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very
(33:34):
Bad Day, which is an adaptation of the children's book
by the same title, and Eva Longoria is acting in
that film. So it's kind of cool that like Eva
has been involved with both Marvin and Linda acting in
their projects, directing producing. Eva Girl, We're here, We're here
(33:54):
at Honey, We're around, but no, so we go. We
go to La Leaf, which again we love. We saw
the premiere of the movie. I love the movie. I
thought it was cute. I thought it was entertaining. I
thought it was well done. I thought Annie Gonzalez was fantastic,
which seems to be the consensus. Yeah, her performance was
really a standout performance. And Jesse John Garcia was fabulous
(34:16):
in his adaptation of Richard, Like he gave Richard a
personality that we could all connect to, that we wanted
him to win. He made us laugh. He really embodied
that he's a family man trying to make it work
and trying to make something happen for his kids and
his wife. You know, I liked it, and I thought
(34:36):
they did a really good job.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, I echo that sentiment. I felt the same way.
I really liked the entire cast. I thought it was
so well done.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
You have to see. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
I think with anything like if you want to critique
it or have you you always have to like engage
with it and watch it yourself and come up with
your own come to your own conclusion and your own opinion.
Right since it's launch, there have been a lot of opinions,
a lot of critiques, just per usual. Anytime there's a
Latino Latina LATINX project, there's chatter, there's discourse.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, it's exhausting. It's necessary perhaps, but it's also exhausting.
I think there's a time and place, there are people
that do it. I just personally don't feel like I
don't want to be a film critic.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I want to say it was twenty twenty one. Sam Dean,
a tech reporter at the LA Times, wrote an article
and it was sort of like an expose style article,
and his thesis was that the so called inventor of
flaming hot cheetos, Richard Montagnez, did not invent flaming hot
Cheetos at all, that it's based on a lie. That
(35:48):
The La Times received an anonymous tip from someone formerly
employed at Fredola who reached out to say that, you know,
she was there in the seventies in the Midwest and
working in corporate and that Fredo Lay was working on
developing spicy snacks before Richard Montagniez entered the fold. So
(36:11):
that was the kind of basis for The La Times
putting out Richard lied, and this is like how it's
been framed. Richard Montagniez lied. Yeah, the movie's based on
a lie. But like Richard Montagniel's has been writing books
and going on tour and doing speaking engagements and talking
about Freedo Lay for twenty plus years, and has Freedo
(36:33):
Lay ever like sent him a cease and desist? Have
they ever said stop saying that? Have no to our knowledge.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, I find it interesting that this came this expose
was published when obviously investigative reporting takes time. But I
think it's very interesting that it came out shortly after
the film was announced, the making of the film and
who was involved with the project. So I think that's
really interesting because to your point, like this multimillion corporation
(37:04):
is just going to allow a single man to go
with this narrative. I don't know. Maybe in their eyes
it makes them look better. I don't know, but I
think it's really interesting that there has been no like
legal fallout, Yeah, and that a film like this was
even able to be made if there was not some
truth to it.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
And I think there's also you know, if you watch
the film, there's a scene where they do address that
in the Midwest, there is a test lab and they
are making something, And I think that that was probably
the writer's way of addressing like some of what happened
with the investigative report.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Totally. The film is self aware and depicts corporates, suits
snack developers working on spicy snacks like it's it's in
the film. The film acknowledges that they were working towards
spicy snacks already before Richard got there. And here's my deal,
a huge at the time, Freedolay already in PepsiCo, already huge, huge,
(37:59):
quas huge. Nobody invents anything by themselves, like when is
there when like at this stage of the game, and
even then, like teams of people invent things and test things, ye,
you know, and go through different iterations and put out samples,
and like why is it so hard for us to
(38:20):
believe that Richard was an integral part of the move
towards eventually launching hot Cheetos and all its different variations.
And he's known as like the godfather of Hispanic marketing.
And I think a big part of the film is
like him getting the chips out there and into Latino communities.
And whether you like it or not, and whether you
(38:42):
like capitalism and marketing or not, we're in it, y'all.
We're in capitalism. Like the only way we survive is
by making money sometimes on things, you know what I mean?
Like people love hot Cheetos.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, as like people love hot cheetos, people love how Cheetos.
And then there's there's like a couple of different things.
I'm saying. I'm seeing one as a hot Scheata lover
and I consider myself a very healthy person, but like
I consume hot Cheetos, and some of the conversation that
I've seen like, Okay, why are we not talking about
how the snack is being forced or put on our community?
(39:14):
And there's red dye and that has health effects and
this and this and that, Like, so we're gonna harp
on the one, the one snack, as if there's not
thousands of things, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Is every Beria variation right now? The healthiest is Bria
Rahmen that everybody's obsessed with right now? Is that the
height of health and wellness?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Right? No? And then there's the other camp that I see,
like this is just a movie that's glorifying, like pulling
yourself up by your bootstraps. And the American success story
that is, you know, has been discredited as a myth. Right,
we know that to be true. Both can be true.
We know that, and I think it's frustrating for me,
(39:55):
you know, I see there's a lot of want and
desire by let the media consumers to have a broader
scope of film and TV and stories that are told. Right,
it's not just the sad stories. We know that those
are true. It's not just immigration stories. We know that
those are true. But it's also fun and light stories
(40:16):
that we want. Well, here's the fun and light film.
And it's still not good enough. It's still not to
the standard of what people want.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Also, I will just say that a lot of the
journalists that I'm seeing who are hating the Flaming Hot movie.
Love just Selna the series, and that shit was actually trash, cheap,
poorly done, hard to watch.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yeah, bad.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
This movie was well made. It was well made, well acted.
The hair was fabulous, the wardrobe was fabulous. You know,
like the writing, it's a Disney it's a Disney movie. Yeah,
remember that. Remember that it's a Disney movie. This is
a story that we're telling for entertainment purposes. And it
was well done and they did a good job. Also,
(41:03):
the La Times literally sponsored the opening night of Lalif,
which was the premiere night of Flaming Hot. The La
Times logo was all over the napkins at the bar
and all over the Step and Repeat, And everybody went
from the Flame and Hot premiere with their complimentary bags
of hotsheetos us included, and walked over to the Hollywood
(41:25):
Roosevelt and took pictures in front of the La Times
sponsored Step and Repeat. Let's just remember that. Yeah, And
so the La Times folks who are all about it's
based on a lie, then why are you guys sponsoring
the damn premiere?
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I think that there is some truth to his involvement.
I don't think that EVA would stake her derictorial debut
on something that's a flat out lie. I don't think
that Disney would get involved in something that's a lie,
or the production company, like there's so many people involved.
It's huge, as you know, like productions are huge in
(42:03):
a production of this scale huge, I think that there
is some truth to it me too, otherwise it wouldn't
have gotten made.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yeah, And like the way that credit is doled out
for things, like even on a song like one Beyonce
song is going to have credits for like fifteen writers,
even if one of those writers contributed like one lyric
three words. You know, if that song was loosely based
on somebody's song from thirty years ago, that person's getting
(42:32):
a credit. So going back to this idea, like, of course,
one singular person was not completely and totally responsible for
the creation, testing, and distribution of a big product like
hot Cheetos. It was a fucking team bro. But why
go so far as to say that Richard is straight
(42:52):
up lying for his involvement in the success of this product?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Right, And it's also Richard's story. It's not how freo
Ley made hot cheetos. It's how a man brought his sasson,
his life experience, his story to a corporation, rose up
to the ranks. That's what the story's about.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah. I will also say I did notice Eva Longoria
directed this project. People are being nasty about her and
about it. When Eva Longoria put out searching for Mexico,
same nasty, h This is just selling the culture. And
this is so cheesy and tacky, honey. This is part
(43:34):
of a searching for series. Stanley Chucci has a searching
for Italy, and I fucking love it. Yeah, are you guys?
Are you guys jumping down Stanley Chucci's throat because he's
doing a TACKI cheesy searching for Italy. No, but it's Eva,
so let's jump on her. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I think like Joe, our thesis for all these years
has always been when a woman does it, when a
Latina does it, we're all hate on it. It doesn't
matter if it's good or not. We're gonna hate on it,
and we're gonna rally everyone else to hate on it too.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Mm hmmm, mm hmm oh, and people are ready to
show up for that call? Yeah, ready ready poise Yeah. AnyWho.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Anyway, y'all, well, this has been a jam packed episode
for our first episode to kick off the season, and
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Partodo el Mundo, Welcome to season eight. Are you are
you listening?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
O La la Loka Motes, Welcome to season eight of
Loka Tora Radio. I'm Viosa and I'm Mala. You're tuning
in to Capitolos one sixty three and.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
This is the very first episode of Loka toa Radio
Season eight.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Today we're catching up with all of you listening and
welcome you to a brand new season.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And with the new season, of course, as you know,
comes a new theme.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
If you haven't watched the full skit yet, head over
to at Loka Dora Underscore Radio on all socials to
watch the full clip. You know that we love a theme.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yes, this was such a fun skit, video promo everything. Yes,
this is all about having a podcast and the way
that we're bringing light and love into your lives when
you listen to us. And we, of course were inspired
by a skit from the Share Show called I'm a Woman.
(01:59):
If you haven't seen the original, look it up. It's fabulous.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, and we just loved the glamour, the aesthetic, the
wit of Share and Raquel Welch. So we were very
much inspired by the glamour the song. It's like kind
of sing songy, like like you talk sing and Mama
made me singodcast.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
S a SG.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Are you listening?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yes, it was so fun. We rewrote the lyrics and
instead of saying I'm a woman w O M A N,
which Sharon Raquel sing in the original skit, we changed
it to We're a podcast p O D C A
S T. And we went to the best singer. We
know Chris Sol to not only help us put the
(02:52):
song together, but Chrisol literally sat with us and vocal
coached us like nope by note, word by word, and
that's the product that you see that you hear at
the end. It's Grisol literally coaching us through it.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Imagine we become pop stars. Girl, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Crazier things have happened. I'm saying true. I'm saying, don't
give me ideas.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Mala would one percent make us go on tour with
this one thirty second, sixty second song.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
It's enough. There's other one hit wonders have made like
legendary names for themselves off of one song.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I feel like now we've very much set ourselves up
to perform this like live. Yeah, I mean I will
be lip syncing because my voice could never but it's
okay with the right vocal coaching. I got there.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, we laid down the track. Everybody lip syncs. It's
an accepted thing. Who cares? It sounds fun? All the
all of our favorite drag queens are lip syncing for
their lives. This is why not us.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
This is so true. So aside from getting ready for
season eight and filming visuals. We've been super busy over here.
We had like our off season or downtime, but we
were definitely not off and we definitely didn't really have downtime. No.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I mean, you literally graduated with a master's degree from
the University of Southern California. I did.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
The Obamas were at my graduation.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Screaming, among others. I'm sure it was a star studed affair, truly,
and I thought what was really fascinating about your graduation
is that there was no like limit on who could go, right,
Like other graduations, each grad gets like five tickets and
you have to choose who can attend. But at USC,
they're like, no, the whole city's coming.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Come one, come on.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
It was wild.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
It was.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I mean, the graduation itself was very beautiful.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I felt very short and sweet. I don't know how
it felt for y'all, but like for me, it felt
like very quick, less than two hours, a little over
one hour. It was very chaotic obviously at the end,
like trying to find everybody. But I thought that the
graduation itself was very lovely.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I had a lot of fun, like walking with my
cohort and just walking into General. Your sister actually designed
my cap?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Oh yes, yeah, so cute. I see it on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yes, I asked her to draw or paint our logo
with the rose and teeth, and then it just says
balas locas because that is who I do everything for.
It's for y'all, the crazy bitches, the crazy women, the
so called lokas who are not really locas. But you know,
head back to locup Is Demologies if you want to
know more. People are so fun. That was really fun.
(05:28):
And then just after the graduation, it has just been
NonStop like other graduations. My partner graduated, he got his master's, parties, weddings,
my best friend got married. It's just been crazy. It's
been very wild, very social, and I'm exhausted. My social
battery is depleted. But it was a really fun, incredible
(05:52):
graduation and wedding season. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Well I can't tell because you look amazing, Thank you,
thank you. You would never know. No, it's been it's
been a really fun, like kick off to the summer. Honestly,
it's been kind of cold and downcast, but there's been
so much going on that it's still been a really
fun time.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, I've also just been transitioning into just life like
now just having Lokata on my plate, and that is
obviously a full servying of lots of different things. And
so I, you know, have just been like reflecting over
the last couple of weeks and realizing that I'm recovering
from seven years of burnout and not just graduation and
(06:34):
not just grad school and having multiple jobs. It's like
seven years of like running myself into the ground but
keeping it cute and keeping it going. So I'm just
easing into the summer and easing into work and trying
to give myself as much balance as possible. And I
think that I'm doing a good job.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You're doing a fabulous job. I mean, what you're describing
is so real. When I quit my job in twenty twenty,
I entered into what I have called my hippie era, yeah,
because it was like, damn, I'm exhausted, yeah, from my
entire life. Yeah, Like, and it was the first time
I had ever not been in school, not been working
(07:13):
full time, and it was pandemic. So there was this
moment where I was kind of just like almost grateful
that I wasn't expected to be anywhere because that is
that can be so draining, And you were dividing your
time and being in a bunch of different places between
your job and your school and the podcast. So I
totally feel you, girl, because you deserve the rest.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yes, I'm yeah, you were in your hippie era. I'm
in my like lounging era, Like I'm taking naps in
the middle of the day, like a thirty minute cat nap.
I'm lounging, trying to get sun, trying to be by
the pool, like reading a little more throughout the day.
So yeah, I'm really just trying to ease into life
and work and create a new system for myself, like
(07:58):
as we've talked about on the podcast over the years,
like we don't have to work a nine to five
and you know, be under the system of capitalism. Obviously
we have to do things, but we can do them
at our own pace and as long as we get
them done. So I'm trying to implement that more as
we build and grow this year.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, And if anything we've learned, it's that we cannot
rush success, right, Like it literally takes years and just
chipping away at it and continuing to work at it,
which I think, being in season eight, I'm so grateful
for that understanding. Yes, like the work will still be
there tomorrow, and we could get any email, any phone call,
(08:40):
and we have gotten them. Actually recently, Ella.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Is dying to tell you something that she's not allowed
to do yet once again, as.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You know, she does this once again new secrets that
I cannot share. But just know we have even more
announcements coming in the future.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Speaking of you have been busy being your little commie
sol so all over the Southwest. So tell me more.
I know you were traveling, you were booked, you were
doing shows, tell me more.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, So I got to start. I had my first
show like outside of LA in Bakersfield at the Well
and it was so fun. And it's interesting because for
LA comics, I guess Bakersfield, San Diego, the Central Valley,
the Bay Area, those are some of the first towns
that comics will travel to. And once you've gone to
(09:29):
those places, now it's like, oh, you're on the road.
So when I booked my Bakersfield show, Marcella shout out
Marcella at Guayo. She comments on my Instagram when I
like post about the Bakersfield show at the Well and
she's like, are girls on the road. So I'm like, yes,
my first road gig. Even though it's my family lives there,
Like I go there all the time, Like it's only
two hours outside of LA, it's considered like a road gig.
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So that was a really fun show because I had
like fifteen family members there. Yeah, and they had a
great time. I had a good set. I was grateful
because there's nothing worse than like I've always dreaded inviting
people to a show and then I bomb, and then
it's like, well, why did I even invite you guys?
How embarrassing, But that was not the case. And then
from there, me and like seven other comedians who I've
(10:13):
met at Chatterbox, including like Stevevona Delgado, we co hosted Chatterbox.
We went to Austin for a comedy trip and I
ended up doing a show out there that a bunch
of you listeners went to because I met some of
you guys at Austin. I cannabis co sold out show.
We did like an LA takeover, so it was just
all eight of us and I headlined. It was very fun.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Mala and Friends.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Mala and Friends is basically what it was.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, it was very cute, It looked fabulous, it was fun,
it was super fun.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I'll be in Modesto on July twenty eighth, so like
you guys, look forward to that at the State Theater.
I'm posting the flyer and I'll put the ticket link
on my link tree. But yeah, that's been me recently.
So I'm going to Guadalajara this so by the time
this is out, I'll probably have already gone. Yeah, I'll
tell you guys about it upon my return.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yes, yes, I love that. I love that. I love
that you have You've been traveling a little bit already.
This summer summer is just starting. What else have you
been up to. I know that there's a new initiative
by the La Times, a LATINX initiative called de los.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yes, which is also launching in the midst of like
broader things happening at the La Times. We're actually going
to talk about the La Times a lot in this episode.
The Loos is a new LATINX vertical that sort of
like has spawned out of like the LATINX Files and
the Latino Caucus at the La Times and a lot
of journalists who for many years have been working to
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have more visible LATINX representation, not only like on the
masthead and in the newsroom, but in the content that
is being shared from the La Times. So the loos
is all about Latinidad in La and they've hired a
bunch of creators, content creators. I make videos about like
our Latinxla for the Loss on Instagram, reels and on TikTok.
(12:07):
So I have a video out which is actually about Chatterbox,
because I consider Chatterbox to be right now the mecha
of Latino stand up comedy in La County. There's no
other place that's doing it like Chatterbox, and it's been
ten years. So you can check out that video. Follow
the Loss on Instagram and on TikTok. And once when
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the loss launched, it like happened in the midst of
massive like potential layoffs at the La Times. We were
on Twitter one day and saw a bunch of Times journalists,
especially the Latino Times journalists that we follow, tweeting about
how they received, like out of nowhere, a notice that
they were being let go. They were like letting go
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over sixty people, including some of their only Spanish speakers
in the photo department, copy editors, audience engagement folks. So
it's like wacky time, not a good time. And the
La Times is not the only people laying off staff.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, I mean, as you all know, there have been
layoffs going on the last couple of months in media.
So it's just a really tough time for journalists, especially
as I mean, I'm super super grateful that we have
built our own and like I graduated not having to
be on the job search. So I really feel for
like the journalists that just graduated, folks in my cohort
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that are like trying to figure out what their next
move is, because it can feel really bleak and very
grim right now in the journalism and media landscape. And
you know, Gimlet, who was bought out by Spotify a
couple years ago, also had layoffs. And LAist, one of
our favorite local public radio stations news outlets here in
(13:49):
La let go a lot of their staff and their
podcast department was hit really badly. Some of our friends
were laid off, so we feel for them and we're
sending them our best. So it's just been rough for
LA journalists, for LA folks working in media across the board.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, in podcasting writers as we know, the WGA, the
Writers Build of America. The writers are on strike and
have been on strike now for what like fifty.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Days, yeah, since May third, I believe.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
At the time of this recording. And it doesn't and
I think my understanding is they voted to approve their strike, right,
it seems that they're going to continue to strike for
the foreseeable future until some concessions are made and protections
are put in place from the studios and big execs
(14:42):
so writers get paid fairly, so that writers are not
being replaced by AI, so that writers are in proper
rooms and have the resources that they need to like
get the work done, and also so that writers are
getting their residuals. There's a lot of issues going on
with streaming platforms and shows as we've talked about, as
(15:04):
we've covered on past episodes and past seasons, shows getting cut,
and a lot of that has to do with not
paying writers and actors. They're residuals, right, So it's all related.
And now here we.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Are here we are striking, Yeah, definitely in solidarity with
all unions. We support unions, We support labor unions and
solidarity with the writers, I think there's a really big
misconception and glamorizing of working in Hollywood and being a
writer for like a hit TV show. A lot of
these folks, like, as we know with streamers, they could
(15:39):
be working on one season but aren't guaranteed a second season. Yeah,
especially if you're looking at Netflix for example, we know
that a lot of shows get canceled after season two,
season three, and there's in a lot of contracts. Because
I've been following writers that have shared like pay transparency,
like one year they can be making two hundred k,
and the following year they're making only thirty and that's
(16:03):
not a livable wage in Los Angeles. So there's writer
Francesca Ramsey, and she has been really defending herself and
a lot of the writers because people in her comments
were conflating things like, well, you're making more than teachers,
and teachers should be paid more. No one is saying
that teachers shouldn't be paid more, or that writers should
be making more than anyone else. It's more so like
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creating a livable wage. I think that that's it's really
important to know, like why the workers, why the writers
are striking and unions just make everyone's lives better, especially
if you're a parent, if you're a caregiver, if you're
a head of household, like, unions just make your lives
better because if you're in a union, it affects literally
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everyone in your little ecosystem unit. So yeah, just you know,
get informed. Support the writers. Support the writers' strike.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, and teachers have unions, and the teachers strike all
the time.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
All the time.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
The teachers were just striking. We're just strike LAUA.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
You know, what we have talked about, and what we
should be talking about, is how writers are contributing to
the economy of Hollywood and Los Angeles. Writing and creating
movies and TV shows is the business. It's the industry,
and it gives a lot of people jobs. Cops don't
do that. Cops should not be making more than teachers
(17:22):
or TV writers. Honestly, cops don't create anything. They don't
contribute to economy or industry. They don't make anything. They
don't provide a service. A cop is not going to
write you a TV show or teacher kid anything, or
fix your plumbing. Why are they making more than anybody? Yeah,
let's focus on that.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Also, just continuing like what's been happening in LA these
past couple months while we've been off season, Like obviously
by the time, y'all listen, Like Pride Month is over,
but Pride Month is all year round, y'all. It's pride here.
We're proud every day, We're proud all year long, So
we just want to recognize that. And also we have
an older episode called the buye Agenda, So if you
(18:01):
haven't tuned in, listen to that one. We talk about
our journeys as queer folks, as bisexual women.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, and the by agenda is cursing through our veins
and through every episode like we're pushing the by Agenda constantly.
And so that being said, we want to talk about
hot topic, hot issue all over LA. The Sisters of
Perpetual Indulgence and the Dodgers and the Catholic Church. Yes,
(18:31):
where to begin. You guys have heard about this, if
you're listening, if you're anywhere in California, you've probably heard
about that.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I mean, at this point it's nationwide. So for context,
the Dodgers have a Pride Night, They've been doing it
for many years. It's during Pride Month and they give
out a Hero's Award. And so this year they were
honoring the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence for their decades of
work of charity, work of HIV prevention and education. And
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they haven't SF chapter, they have an LA chapter, and
so their LA chapter was being honored. Conservatives caught wind
of it. Marco Rubio caught wind of it, like Va Viva,
like folks even outside of California and outside of LA
caught wind of it, and they said that they were
going to boycott the Dodgers. They were criticizing the Dodgers
(19:22):
for giving this award, and so the Dodgers rescinded their
invite to the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. So then, of
course you got all the queer folks, all the allies
in the Dodgers' comments, you know, saying that this was wrong,
that the Sisters were Petual Indulgence deserve the Heroes Award,
Heroes award for all of their work you had. It
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just became very very contentious, lots of homophobia, of course,
and so then the Dodgers apologized and they were like,
just kidding, we apologized, We're committing They're like, we're committed
to like being better and being allies and blah blah blah,
and we still want to offer the award to the
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sisters of perpetual indulgence. The Conservatives, the Catholics all the same,
they were not happy with that. And so we're getting
closer to the Pride Night at Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
And the day of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
There's like the Catholic Church, the Archdiocese of Los Angeles
decides that they're going to have a prayer protest at
the one of the parking lots at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
And we were watching on Instagram horrified. Horrified. First of all,
we come to find that there's a lot of alt
right actors involved in putting this protest together. You know,
it's being labeled as a peaceful, prayerful protest, and you
(20:54):
have former Sheriff Alex Vianueva there in his bihana, in
his cowboy hate making speeches, and some people that we
follow unfortunately also in attendance. Yeah, and making this about oh,
like we can't stand a mockery of the Catholic Church.
(21:15):
What a mockery of Catholicism. And there's just so much
to talk about there. There's just so much to unpack.
We have talked a lot about the Catholic Church, you
and I over the years, because of course, as most
of you know, we're Catholic schoolgirls, Roman Catholic raised in
it for many years. We've done the Sacraments, we've done
(21:36):
the Confirmation, we've gone to Mass, we've read the Bible
like we know, we get it. And what I know
to be true is the Catholic Church is a world power,
is a multinational corporation with its own country. Vatican City
is a country, and the Catholic Church still has not
(21:57):
made amends for the centuries of child abuse and child
molestation at the hands of Catholic priests. The Catholic Church
is not a marginalized group. Catholics are not a marginalized
religious group at all. Let's stop pretending that that's the case.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, Catholics like colonize half the world, so like, let's
not pretend that they're a marginalized or oppressed.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Group at all.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
They are going to be okay, Yes, And from all
of the images the videos I saw from local news.
The La Times created a reel about what happened at
the protest that day, and there's a lot of Latinos.
It's not about just defending their religion. What it does
is it masquerades as like a defense of religion, but
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it allows for homophobia, blatant homophobia. There were You're going
to Hell signs being raised, and it's like a very
contentious time in this country where anti trans bills and
laws are being passed, books are being banned, and were
people are talking about quote groomers again, like the Glendale
School District, we're trying to initiate a pride recognition at
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their school. Again. Alt right folks started going to protests.
It's been very violent. It is a really really terrible
time to be queer. It's always been, but especially right
now any sliver of hope and being mainstream, Like it's
really dangerous again to be queer, to be trans in
this country, even in Los Angeles. And so for the
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quote allies or folks that are saying like, oh, it's
just because I'm defending my religion, because it's being made
a mockery Like no, like you're allowing for the homophobia,
for the transphobia, the bigotry to permeate and to be
on display and to be made okay again.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, And for those listening. We pulled the bio the
biography of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. This is from
their website. So from their website, the Sisters of Perpetual
Indulgence are a leading edge order of queer and trans nuns.
We believe all people have a right to express their
unique joy and beauty. Since our first appearance in San
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Francisco on Easter Sunday nineteen seventy nine, the Sisters have
devoted ourselves to community service, ministry and outreach to those
on the edges, and to promoting human rights, respect for diversity,
and spiritual enlightenment. We use humor and irreverent wit to
expose the forces of bigotry, complacency, and guilt that chain
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the human spirit. What I love about this order of Nuns,
which is how they describe themselves, and you have more
backstory on their connection to nuns Catholic nuns when they
first founded back in the day in the seventies. What
I love is that they employ humor and humor. Comedy
at its core is supposed to be about punching up
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and making fun of the elite, those in power, and
so they're doing it from within and I think what
we're not acknowledging and what makes Catholics uncomfortable is there
is a place to make fun of Catholicism because Catholicism
that is punching up, you know, those are the Catholic
Church can be an oppressor, has been, can continue to be.
(25:21):
And so it's it's fair game. It's up for grabs.
I love Jesus Christ Superstar and I love you know
what's the one with Whipy Goldberg's sister are come on.
The Catholic Church has been at the core of media
like and depictions of nuns and priests and Catholicism for years.
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There's a million TV shows and movies like it's it's
like it's fodder for these things.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
The problem, right and the problem for the Catholics, the
ones that are upset right now, it's who's doing it right.
And that's why it's like, just be fucking real. You're homophobic,
you're transphobic. You have a problem with who's doing it.
Because when y'all are out doing the Stations of the
Cross and having children enact the stations of the Cross,
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that's okay, that's okay to do, But anything else is mockery.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
It's mockery, like, let's recreate the crucifixion of Jesus Christ
with childs. Yeah, in front of the entire church community.
And that's okay, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
So just want to read I found when I was
doing my basic research as a human with a mind,
which I hope that some of these people do, but
they won't.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
On Google if you have a Wi Fi connection.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yes, So something that I found on their website, the
Sisters dot org is their origin story. And in nineteen
seventy six in Iowa, a convent of Roman Catholic nuns
lent some retired habits to the sugar Plum Fairies performing
their version of the Sound of Music. One year later,
one of the founders of Sister Vicious, Power Hungry Badge
(26:56):
moved to San Francisco and brought those habits to the
streets of the Castro district. So that is the origin story.
The Catholic nuns lent retired habits. To my knowledge, right
or my deductive skills is telling me that the nuns
were okay with this being used as a performance.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yes, costumes, it's a costume by queer performers, queer entertainers.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
So this was this happened in nineteen seventy six, y'all.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, And look, I think also people forget like you
may be like some ultra conservative like Opus day like
Catholic like, but there are orders of nuns out there,
aside from the sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, that are highly progressive, yeah,
highly highly highly highly progressive, that fight for abortion rights,
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that fight for queer rights, that believe in women's rights.
Nuns also historically, like throughout the world, you're gonna find
that convents have been places where queer women have gone
so that they can exist and live without being forced
to get married. Like, nuns are not like necessarily the
ultra conservative people that you might be imagining them to be.
(28:10):
It's just not that's just not their role. And also
the Catholic Church historically has not taken care of their nuns, Like,
they don't help nuns to retire, they don't keep them
fed and clothed into their old age like notoriously, nuns
are left destitute in their old age, right, you know,
And so I don't know, there's just so much going
(28:30):
on here. Also, why do we expect the dodgers of
all institutions to like, I don't know, like protect your
religious beliefs or whatever. Why the Dodgers They're a sports team, right,
you know they're they're also a corporation. Yeah, before anything else.
They're not a religious group. I don't get it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I also wanted to go back and say, like a
historical figure that was a nun that was believed to
be queer because of her poetry was Yes, So like
there's a historical example of a queer nut.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, and there are others. And I mean Sojuana is
famous in Latino communities, and there's they've made TV shows
about her, They've made movies and documentaries about her. So
I don't know. I just think I'll basically get a grip,
like if you were at the protest, like you really
had nothing else better to do that day, then go
join Alex Vianueva and his like alt right pals to
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go protest an order of nuns. Yeah, come on now, yeah,
let's get let's go. Let's go sit in it the
archdiocese and demand that they paid their teachers at Catholic
schools better. Those are teachers that don't have a union. Yeah,
you guys know that Catholic school teachers don't have a
union and they're horribly underpaid. Yes, let's let's go protest that.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, there's so many things like if you want to
demand more from your own religious from your own religious
in institution, like the archdiocese, Like there's so much more
that you could be doing if you really care about
the betterment of your fellow Catholics, of your fellow people, like.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, oh, and when Nacho Libre came out and Nacho
is literally a priest in Mexico who like has like
a little tryst with a nun in Carnacion and they
follow like, come on you guys, Like, yeah, that movie
was really fucking hilarious. Love that movie and so did
the rest of you, right, and where was where were
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the protests right at the movie premiere because it was
making a mockery of the Catholic Church.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, and also break the Catholic Church has still not
made amends for the boarding schools no that abused physically
sexually Native children in Canada. Here in the US, Like,
there's so many atrocities and the Catholic Church is at
the root of them and they have not made amends.
(30:59):
I will recognize that the current pope has made some strides,
but there's like centuries worth of violence. Yes, and that's
what you need to focus on, because, as the trite
saying goes, like, don't throw rocks if you're in glass
if you're in a.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Glasshouse, don't throw stones and hide your hand.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yes, come on, he who is.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Without sin cast the first stone exactly.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
You think we can't quote scripture, bitches like, yes, we can.
Twelve years worth of Catholic school. It's ingrained in us.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
We know, we can't forget it. And that's why I
feel like we can talk.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yes, yes, you know, yes, And I like shared a
video that the La Times made and I was like,
I promise you that Catholics are not oppressed. And I
expected my dms to be on fire, but no, because
people fucking know, and the people that follow me know
they probably feel the same way I do. Slash. I
feel like you and I, like you said, can speak
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on these things because we're not looking from the outside.
We were inside. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I still go to church with my grandma and my mom.
When they asked me to, I feel bad.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I get it. You have to go with mom and grandma. Natcha.
I get it.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Oh my god, it's such a thing still but yeah,
like and if you guys really know your church and
really know your faith and really no Catholicism, then you
would know all this stuff. Come on now, yeah, I'm
not buying it.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
No.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Wo Should we move on to Flame and Hot and
the Hot Cheetos? Another one, another.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Hot topic, another hot take. So we went to the
West Coast premiere of Flame and Hot. It was at
the Laalif Film Festival, the Los Angeles Latino International Film Festival,
one of our favorite events in Los Angeles. It was
Eva Longoria's directorial debut. Yes, Lynda vet Chavas is one
of the writers, the screenwriters. Past guest of Loka Full Transparency.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Oh yeah yeah, past guest of Lokata Radio. We interviewed
Linda Yvette Chavez and Marvin Lamoos during the Henhi fied Era.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Just launched their first season and it was during the
pandemic like April twenty twenty when we interviewed them and.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
We had both of them on at the same time.
Since then, Marvin and Linda have both gone on to
do more projects, Linda with Flamin' Hot starring Annie Gonzalez,
opposite Jesse John Garcia who plays Richard Montagnez and Marvin
has gone on to direct a feature film for Disney
Plus called Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very
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Bad Day, which is an adaptation of the children's book
by the same title, and Eva Longoria is acting in
that film. So it's kind of cool that like Eva
has been involved with both Marvin and Linda acting in
their projects, directing producing. Eva Girl, We're here, We're here
(33:54):
at Honey, We're around, but no, so we go. We
go to La Leaf, which again we love. We saw
the premiere of the movie. I love the movie. I
thought it was cute. I thought it was entertaining. I
thought it was well done. I thought Annie Gonzalez was fantastic,
which seems to be the consensus. Yeah, her performance was
really a standout performance. And Jesse John Garcia was fabulous
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in his adaptation of Richard, Like he gave Richard a
personality that we could all connect to, that we wanted
him to win. He made us laugh. He really embodied
that he's a family man trying to make it work
and trying to make something happen for his kids and
his wife. You know, I liked it, and I thought
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they did a really good job.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, I echo that sentiment. I felt the same way.
I really liked the entire cast. I thought it was
so well done.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
You have to see. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
I think with anything like if you want to critique
it or have you you always have to like engage
with it and watch it yourself and come up with
your own come to your own conclusion and your own opinion.
Right since it's launch, there have been a lot of opinions,
a lot of critiques, just per usual. Anytime there's a
Latino Latina LATINX project, there's chatter, there's discourse.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, it's exhausting. It's necessary perhaps, but it's also exhausting.
I think there's a time and place, there are people
that do it. I just personally don't feel like I
don't want to be a film critic.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I want to say it was twenty twenty one. Sam Dean,
a tech reporter at the LA Times, wrote an article
and it was sort of like an expose style article,
and his thesis was that the so called inventor of
flaming hot cheetos, Richard Montagnez, did not invent flaming hot
Cheetos at all, that it's based on a lie. That
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The La Times received an anonymous tip from someone formerly
employed at Fredola who reached out to say that, you know,
she was there in the seventies in the Midwest and
working in corporate and that Fredo Lay was working on
developing spicy snacks before Richard Montagniez entered the fold. So
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that was the kind of basis for The La Times
putting out Richard lied, and this is like how it's
been framed. Richard Montagniez lied. Yeah, the movie's based on
a lie. But like Richard Montagniel's has been writing books
and going on tour and doing speaking engagements and talking
about Freedo Lay for twenty plus years, and has Freedo
(36:33):
Lay ever like sent him a cease and desist? Have
they ever said stop saying that? Have no to our knowledge.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, I find it interesting that this came this expose
was published when obviously investigative reporting takes time. But I
think it's very interesting that it came out shortly after
the film was announced, the making of the film and
who was involved with the project. So I think that's
really interesting because to your point, like this multimillion corporation
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is just going to allow a single man to go
with this narrative. I don't know. Maybe in their eyes
it makes them look better. I don't know, but I
think it's really interesting that there has been no like
legal fallout, Yeah, and that a film like this was
even able to be made if there was not some
truth to it.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
And I think there's also you know, if you watch
the film, there's a scene where they do address that
in the Midwest, there is a test lab and they
are making something, And I think that that was probably
the writer's way of addressing like some of what happened
with the investigative report.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Totally. The film is self aware and depicts corporates, suits
snack developers working on spicy snacks like it's it's in
the film. The film acknowledges that they were working towards
spicy snacks already before Richard got there. And here's my deal,
a huge at the time, Freedolay already in PepsiCo, already huge, huge,
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quas huge. Nobody invents anything by themselves, like when is
there when like at this stage of the game, and
even then, like teams of people invent things and test things, ye,
you know, and go through different iterations and put out samples,
and like why is it so hard for us to
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believe that Richard was an integral part of the move
towards eventually launching hot Cheetos and all its different variations.
And he's known as like the godfather of Hispanic marketing.
And I think a big part of the film is
like him getting the chips out there and into Latino communities.
And whether you like it or not, and whether you
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like capitalism and marketing or not, we're in it, y'all.
We're in capitalism. Like the only way we survive is
by making money sometimes on things, you know what I mean?
Like people love hot Cheetos.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, as like people love hot cheetos, people love how Cheetos.
And then there's there's like a couple of different things.
I'm saying. I'm seeing one as a hot Scheata lover
and I consider myself a very healthy person, but like
I consume hot Cheetos, and some of the conversation that
I've seen like, Okay, why are we not talking about
how the snack is being forced or put on our community?
(39:14):
And there's red dye and that has health effects and
this and this and that, Like, so we're gonna harp
on the one, the one snack, as if there's not
thousands of things, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Is every Beria variation right now? The healthiest is Bria
Rahmen that everybody's obsessed with right now? Is that the
height of health and wellness?
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Right? No? And then there's the other camp that I see,
like this is just a movie that's glorifying, like pulling
yourself up by your bootstraps. And the American success story
that is, you know, has been discredited as a myth. Right,
we know that to be true. Both can be true.
We know that, and I think it's frustrating for me,
(39:55):
you know, I see there's a lot of want and
desire by let the media consumers to have a broader
scope of film and TV and stories that are told. Right,
it's not just the sad stories. We know that those
are true. It's not just immigration stories. We know that
those are true. But it's also fun and light stories
(40:16):
that we want. Well, here's the fun and light film.
And it's still not good enough. It's still not to
the standard of what people want.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Also, I will just say that a lot of the
journalists that I'm seeing who are hating the Flaming Hot movie.
Love just Selna the series, and that shit was actually trash, cheap,
poorly done, hard to watch.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yeah, bad.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
This movie was well made. It was well made, well acted.
The hair was fabulous, the wardrobe was fabulous. You know,
like the writing, it's a Disney it's a Disney movie. Yeah,
remember that. Remember that it's a Disney movie. This is
a story that we're telling for entertainment purposes. And it
was well done and they did a good job. Also,
(41:03):
the La Times literally sponsored the opening night of Lalif,
which was the premiere night of Flaming Hot. The La
Times logo was all over the napkins at the bar
and all over the Step and Repeat, And everybody went
from the Flame and Hot premiere with their complimentary bags
of hotsheetos us included, and walked over to the Hollywood
(41:25):
Roosevelt and took pictures in front of the La Times
sponsored Step and Repeat. Let's just remember that. Yeah, And
so the La Times folks who are all about it's
based on a lie, then why are you guys sponsoring
the damn premiere?
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I think that there is some truth to his involvement.
I don't think that EVA would stake her derictorial debut
on something that's a flat out lie. I don't think
that Disney would get involved in something that's a lie,
or the production company, like there's so many people involved.
It's huge, as you know, like productions are huge in
(42:03):
a production of this scale huge, I think that there
is some truth to it me too, otherwise it wouldn't
have gotten made.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yeah, And like the way that credit is doled out
for things, like even on a song like one Beyonce
song is going to have credits for like fifteen writers,
even if one of those writers contributed like one lyric
three words. You know, if that song was loosely based
on somebody's song from thirty years ago, that person's getting
(42:32):
a credit. So going back to this idea, like, of course,
one singular person was not completely and totally responsible for
the creation, testing, and distribution of a big product like
hot Cheetos. It was a fucking team bro. But why
go so far as to say that Richard is straight
(42:52):
up lying for his involvement in the success of this product?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Right, And it's also Richard's story. It's not how freo
Ley made hot cheetos. It's how a man brought his sasson,
his life experience, his story to a corporation, rose up
to the ranks. That's what the story's about.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah. I will also say I did notice Eva Longoria
directed this project. People are being nasty about her and
about it. When Eva Longoria put out searching for Mexico,
same nasty, h This is just selling the culture. And
this is so cheesy and tacky, honey. This is part
(43:34):
of a searching for series. Stanley Chucci has a searching
for Italy, and I fucking love it. Yeah, are you guys?
Are you guys jumping down Stanley Chucci's throat because he's
doing a TACKI cheesy searching for Italy. No, but it's Eva,
so let's jump on her. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I think like Joe, our thesis for all these years
has always been when a woman does it, when a
Latina does it, we're all hate on it. It doesn't
matter if it's good or not. We're gonna hate on it,
and we're gonna rally everyone else to hate on it too.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Mm hmmm, mm hmm oh, and people are ready to
show up for that call? Yeah, ready ready poise Yeah. AnyWho.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Anyway, y'all, well, this has been a jam packed episode
for our first episode to kick off the season, and
we're super excited because next time on look at Thoughta Radio,
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we're gonna be hearing from licensed therapists, artists, writers all
about their journeys with mental health and how it shows
up in their work.
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