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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Loka to Our Radio is a radiophonic novela, which.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Is just a very extra way of saying a podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
I'm fiosa fem.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
And I am ma la munios.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We're podcasting through another Trump election year. We've been podcasting
through election years, a global pandemic, civic unrest, political controversies,
the Me Too movement, the rise of TikTok, and we
are still here.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
We're not done telling stories.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
We're still making podcasts.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We're older, we're wiser, We're even podcasting through a new
decade of our lives.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Since twenty sixteen, we've been making Loca thro Our Radio
independently until we joined iHeartMedia's Michael Dura Network in twenty
twenty two.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
From Our Lips to your Ears, Fall in love with
Loka to a Radio like you never have before.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Welcome to Season nine. Love that first listen.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
O La la Loka Motes. Welcome to season of lok
at Tora Radio. I'm diosa and I'm ma la lok
at Dora Radio is a podcast dedicated to archiving are
present and shifting the culture forward. You're tuning in to
Capitros one ninety three.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
And this is the very first episode of season nine, and.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
On today's episode, we're joined by Grammy Award winning singer
songwriter Natalia La Furcave. But before we get into the interview,
we want to take some time to intro this season
and what we hope to get out of lok At
Dora Radio season nine.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
So let's talk about our brand new theme for this season,
love at first Listen.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
It's so cute. It's one of my favorite themes. They're
all my favorite themes. Each year it's my favorite theme.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Each year gets cuter and cuter and cuter and cuter.
And this season we owe our new theme to our listener,
longtime listener shout out Kaarina Monroy. She's been listening since
the beginning of the podcast, all the way back to
our very first season, and she recently said on Instagram
that listening to lok At thought our radio was quote love.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
At first Listen, and we just loved that quote.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I DMed Garina and was like, girl, can we use
this to brand our season nine? And she said yes,
and so we want to shout her out. So thank you,
girl for the inspo, And I think that leads us
to talk about what love at first listen means. I
think it also encapsulates what lok At Radio a radio
Farna has been since twenty sixteen. It's been a community space,
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community driven, a digital community space, if you will, where
I think our listeners have been able to learn more
ways to love themselves and love their culture, love their community,
and love is so complex. It's not just romantic platonic.
Oh I'm so in love with you.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I love you.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's like I love you and I want to make
you better. I love you and I want to push
you to be the best version of yourself.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I love you. So we're going to unpack these things
on look at thought.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
A radio absolutely and not only love of self, but
I think you all have learned to love us specifically
as individuals, as hosts, as artists, as people, and for me,
I think love it first Listen is also about how
you guys have loved the show through all of the
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stages and all of the seasons. From our super duper
indie era when our sound quality was not the best,
you still loved the topics, the conversations and the guests.
You loved the talks about politics, sex and feminism. And
now you can also love the sound quality and the
production quality, which has just gone up and increased. I
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think we've gotten better and better every season. We've really
figured out our sound and our flow.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, and with that, we're also changing it a little bit.
This season will still be archiving and interviewing the stories
of our community of our guests, but we're also going
to switch it up and the ways in which we
conduct interviews will also be a little bit different. So
we're really excited to kind of play this season and
really tap into like the creative side of look at
(04:11):
our radio in the audio. I think we're very creative
with visuals, and I think we over the past seasons
have gotten very comfortable in our format, and so we're
pushing ourselves to be more creative this year with the
format and so a lot of things will stay the same,
but there will be some things that will be new
and we're really excited to roll those out and they'll
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be on a rolling basis all season.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
So in addition to the amazing guests and artists and
creatives that we bring on for our interviews, we will
be inviting some of our favorite journalists and organizers to
have their own sort of mini segments on look at
Our Radio.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
So those will be rolling out later this season.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
The biggest update I think for season nine is that
our audio editor, Stephanie Franco is joining us as a producer.
Has been editing our podcast for the last two seasons.
She's been working behind the scenes before that as well,
but we're really excited to bring her on as a
producer officially for look at Our Radio. And this is
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a really big deal for us because we've been executive
producing ourselves for eight years now, we have never really
asked for help. We've never really gotten creative input from others.
We're obviously open to suggestions from our listeners, but to
have someone else in the mix kind of pitching ideas
and moving us along is new to us, and I'm
really excited to see what that will bring for us
(05:35):
this season.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I mean, first of all, not to brag, but most
of your favorite podcasts have like big old teams behind
the show. There's the hosts, but then in addition to
the hosts, there are different levels of producers and managers
and writers and sometimes fact checkers. And we really have
been pretty self contained. Once we joined the mich Wultura
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podcast network. That really expanded our resources and the team,
and Stephanie has been this really constant part of our
process for some time now and we couldn't do what
we're doing now at this level without her. So we're
really excited to just continue to grow and to continue
to bring more art into the world. As you know,
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with every new season comes a new visual trailer, new music,
new sound effects, and season nine is no different. We
want to shout out Jessica Magaanna Redheart Media, who is
such a one woman production team, such a wizard at
set design, at videography and cinematography and at editing, and
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of course shout out to our makeup artist Roberto Carlos,
who has been making us beautiful for many, many years now.
Check out our season nine visual trailer, our visual promo
on Instagram, on TikTok. We're at Loka Underscore Radio. We
had a lot of fun this year with the visuals
we always do. Another person that we want to shout
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out for really giving us a whole new sound, whole
new vibe this season is Grisol.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
We love Krisol.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
She's been making music for locat O Radio and scoring
our shows as well as might Juan Eda for a
couple seasons now, and so the fun like transitional music
and ad break music and our promo music and things
that you hear, including the singing.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
That's Grisol.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
That's the team.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, a small but mighty team. And while we've been away,
we've been we've been busy, we've been off, but we've
not been off at all.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Right, because off season is really just prepping for the
next season.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yes, and not only that, I can share with y'all
that our new podcast has officially been green Lid will
be on the Microdura Podcast network. It's a co production,
and it's coming in August, August twenty twenty four. That's
all I can say right now, but just know now
there's an official launch date. We've been kind of teasing it,
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but for so many different reasons, it got pushed back,
and so we're super excited to see the show out
in the world very very soon. And we can talk
more about it and the process because it was a long,
long process, even pre Michael Thura Das, So we will
talk more about that later. But we were working on
that too, and Mala was in grad school and I
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was running a marathon. Like we were busy working and
living and working.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And living one And that show I think is an
example of don't throw your ideas away, because that's an
idea that started with just a name, just the name
of a potential show, and now it's become a fully
fledged co production with a team that is coming out
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in August. And yeah, I think that's where everything starts,
is with an idea. Keep your ideas and remember that
you have a volt of ideas because you can always
go back to them. Somebody just might ask you, do
you have more things? Do you have more is there
more material is or do you have more ideas? Actually, yes,
we do, so I don't know. Be inspired by us.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
We are the proof.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yes, I am constantly inspired by us. I'm inspired by
Mala constantly, the way she puts herself out there with.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Her acting, with her film.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
During our last episode of last season, Mala alluded to
being in a sketch comedy show called Single Writers.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I went out.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Of course, I always go to I try to go
to all of Mala's things that she does for the
first time, like first time laugh Factory. I'm there, maybe
not the second time, but I'm there for the first time.
And so she did this sketch comedy show. And I
was so so impressed by you. Obviously, I know you're
super talented.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I work with you, but.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
To see you put yourself out there and like acting
and doing this sketch comedy like, I admire it so
much because I don't have that in me, Like I
don't have that desire to do that, but I respect
it so much.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
And it wasn't you did You killed it? You were
so good.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Let me return the compliment because you literally ran a
marathon and so I went with you to Zion when
you ran how long was that ring that was in?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
That was thirteen miles? That was in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, So I went with you to Zion to see
you run that race, and Brianna was also there. This
time around, you literally ran the La Marathon and you
like beat your own like pr that you were like.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
You know, I think you were.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
You were working with your coach and you set a time,
like a goal time, and you beat it and you
did not stop running. You run the entire twenty six
point two miles, which also like I don't know, I
don't have it in me. It's just not in me.
You know, so I I was just so inspired by you.
I like wanted to cry.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Oh, I'm like, oh my god, she dad hat.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And your mom was there and your friends and it
was just so fun and exciting and like, what a
huge accomplishment that like, very very, very few people in
the history of the world have accomplished. You know, when
we think about like relative to the population of humanity,
not that many people have completed marathons.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah, I think the stat is like less than one
percent of the population runs a marathon. And it doesn't
feel that way to me because it feels so skewed.
Now that I'm like in a running community, I'm like, yeah,
everybody's running marathons, but actually no, actually nobody's running marathons.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
No, it's pretty wild.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
You are an elite to athlete.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Thank you, girl. I'm not, but thank you. I'm elite
to you.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yes, I love me. You are the elite.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You are at the top of the top. So you know,
look at us, look at us just doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yes, we were busy off season, busy making new shows,
busy work in running the streets of a literally literally
and doing sketch comedy and being in grad school and podcasts, podcasting.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
It's just I'm just so happy for us, Like, look
at I do think I like this little life.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Look at what we've made. Yes, it's cute.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
It's cute like five years ago, dude.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, I think I'm in a place now to really
appreciate the life that we've built. I think last year
when I was twenty twenty three, yeah, being in grad school,
and then the years before that, juggling all the jobs,
it's really hard. I mean, it's really easy to take
it for granted to not be grateful because you're so tired,
you're so busy. And I think now I have so
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much space in my life in a very positive way
that I can actually like this little life, and I
can actually be grateful and appreciative and see what's in
front of me as opposed to always running to the
next thing. Yeah, so it's given me that perspective too.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, we can sort of now, we can focus in.
We're expanding and adding but also focusing. Yes, at the
same time, I think we used to do a lot more,
and the pandemic changed this. Of course, nothing is the
same after the pandemic, No, nothing.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
We're not the same we're not the same.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
But as a show, we used to do a lot
more like in person events and hosting and parties and
and that is not has not so much been part
of our lives, not to the degree that it once was.
But I think we've gotten way deeper into like the
craft of what we do and the process and the
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practice and like honing the skills and adding new skills
to like really become very professional creatives.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, because I think before it didn't matter if we
were going to run ourselves ragged and working at my
house until two in the morning every day, we were
going to get the live show done. We're going to
get look at that Aliva podcast party done. We were
going to build our own sets.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
And we did and we didn't It was so fun.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
And I think that served that stage of our lives.
And while we still love the live shows, we still
want to do more live shows in the future. I
think it's not just us it's changed, but it's also
our listeners, Like our listeners aren't necessarily out and about
the way they were either, because you also changed during
the pandemic, right, It wasn't just us, And I think
the way people show up has changed. And so just
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changing with the times, navigating all of us, maturing all
of us growing up.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Like, oh yeah, it's changed.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
It's changed.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Our listeners have children they like if they were in
school when they started listening. They have advanced degrees now
they're doing incredible work in their own fields. It's just
really it's been fun. We've all kind of grown up
over the airwaves together in this way.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, that's why we're archiving our present.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
And shifting culture towards the future.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Because not only that, I mean, in addition to what
you're saying, adding to what you're saying. Thinking back, I
was looking at the comments when we had Curly and
Maya last season, and someone commented, I've been listening to
y'all since high school. Wild love it, but like we've
really been doing it for that long that people have
graduated high school and maybe have graduated college. Also, yeah,
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I mean it's been eight years, so yeah, you could
have actually listened to us beginning of high school to
end of college.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
So true genres. Basically, yes, we have raised children.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
We're mothers.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
We're a mother.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Tell your mother that we are mothers.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
You have other mothers and it's us.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Don't go anywhere. You don't want to miss our interview
with Nataria la Foga. Stay tuned, we'll be right.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Back and welcome back.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
We have such a fun, exciting special interview for you
all today on this episode of Look at Our Radio,
and we did something that we don't always do. We
recorded our interview on location in the field. We went
to our interview guest and it was quite the whirlwind
actually just getting there and being there. The interview itself
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was an experience in and of itself. Us I take
us there, walk us through it.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Earlier this year, we were invited to sit down with
Natali la Forgade and of all days, Los Angeles has
hit with a storm. Local news stations are advising the
public to stay inside, but we had an interview to do,
so we drove to Stony Studios.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Anyway, at first we were concerned because there was like
a super long line like of people waiting to get
into the studios and we, you know, have a deadline
and Natalia only has a certain amount of time with us.
So we got there super early and we see this
long line and we're like, oh my god, do we
need to wait in this line to check in? But no,
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it was for what wheel of fortune.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
We're in the lobby, we're waiting for our tiny little
crew to arrive. This is one of the biggest artists
that we've interviewed us far, and because of that, we
decided we have to bring a crew with us. I
can technically record for us remotely, but I don't want
to risk it.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I don't want anything to go wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So our friend Thelma captured behind the scenes content and
our friend and journalist Megan tan audio engineers that session
for us, and she makes us so comfortable.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
She makes sure to get all the right audio volume.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Everything the tape is good. Lia, okay, but I know no, no,
we're good ready, Yeah, Natali, how are you feeling today?
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Well, very good, very happy. I love the rain.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
That's that's normally the weather where I live in Beragruz.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
It trains a lot and I love it. I love it.
I'm very happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
It's a beautiful day and we're thrilled to be here
at Sony with you to talk about your music, the
Grammys and everything in between.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Yeah, everything in between, that's right.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
So thank you for sitting down with us today.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
We have tons of questions we're so curious about your process,
your journey, the Newest Music and this nomination.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Thank you so much. It's a pleasure. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
So just to get us started, I want to ask
you about the making of this album. I read and
I learned that you recorded it on analog tape. Yeah,
that's right, tell me more about that.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
That is something I wanted to do since very long ago.
You know, I was listening very like a lot of
music from Ella Fitzieral Billie Holiday, Joiny micho Eta, James,
I don't know, like there were so many inspirations in music.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
And I realized those albums from.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
The past were recorded that way and that it was
also live like live music, real like not click, very organic,
everyone in the same room. Those albums. I really like
those and I never tried that on an album. Maybe
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the one that has most more that kind of recording
is the musas that I did with De Macorinos. It
was almost everything done like at once, like we all together.
But for this album, I was talking with the producer
about having this type of recording sessions at Sonic Crunch,
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and that's how we did it, and it was amazing.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
It gets you in a mood.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
It gives you a lot of adrenalina because you are like, okay,
like if if I make any mistake, my goal on
the tape. We only had probably eight tapes because they're
pretty expensive, and the budget was just like one budget
we had, so it was like this is what we got,
twenty minutes per tape. So it was probably four or
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five takes for each song of the album. So that
was good for us because we were very you know,
focused and present and given all our best that we
could give for every track.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
So it was really special and different for me.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
And how did improvisation figure into the recording of those
tracks or were you super rehearsed, super prepared or did you.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Go in and just like let it rip.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Not really that much rehearsal.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
I wish we had.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
That because there's no I mean, there's only like two
songs on the album that now I listen to them
and I am like, maybe a little faster would have
been better for the song. It gives you this vibe
like very but Ada the producer, he didn't want me
to rehearse a lot, to practice a lot with the
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band that we had, and we had great musicians, we
had Mark Ribot with us, which is like one of
my favorite guitar players.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
We had a million other ants.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
He comes from a very great background in music because
he normally plays like classical music, so he was bringing
all that context and music to the project.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Then we have Cereal Adep and he was.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
Really like good, good drummer, Like I loved the way
he played. So everyone Sebastian Samber and also me on
the guitar, so it was all of us at once,
and Adam was saying, like the importance, which I believe,
to the importance of having like something coming from who
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knows what plays It's just like something is coming through
us at the moment. But to do that, like you,
at least, I had to prepare a lot myself with
my guitar, my songs, like almost like knowing the song
in my memory and I'm playing.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Like just like that.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
But I didn't have that much time, so I really
was like very present and I had the lyrics in
the front, and there were moments I couldn't even play
the chords because I didn't know what I was going
with my guitar, you know. But that was beautiful because
then I was letting somebody.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Else, like to come into the song and play.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
The right court ride at the moment when I wasn't playing,
you know, so it was like, I don't know, it
felt like a dance, you know. It was really like
very strong connection between us and presence and inspiration and
this wonderful room we had.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
It sounds very collaborative.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Yeah, yeah, I think yeah, it was very very like
sharing what everyone was able to give at the moment,
you know, but also finding the right thing to do
for the song, for the song, for what the song
is telling, and just to give it to give it up.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
You mentioned listening back to some of the tracks, some
of the songs and maybe hearing things that you would
have changed.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Does that happen often?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Do you have music that you listen back to it
and I don't actually I don't like it that much,
or don't include it in the album or years later,
does it sound different to you?
Speaker 7 (23:35):
Yeah, most of the time, but from maybe more from
the very first moment of my.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
Path and my career.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
I think I was listening to the first album maybe
two months ago.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Yeah, I was just like, I want.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
To remember nostalgia, nostylist, nostalgic. I got very nostalgic, and
I was like, I'm going to listen to all the
albums I made, just I just like I want to remember.
And I w was listening the first the first one,
and I actually liked it, you know, like for many
years I would like, I don't like this as well anymore,
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and I don't know, I was fighting with my own
music in.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
A way or the way I was doing it.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
But then I realized how much every album of my
career is very of the moment. Come feel very loyal
to the moment that I was leaving and I was having.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
So of course there's little things.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
I am like, I wish I could change this because
it's recorded and it's going to be there forever. But
at the same time, I'm glad I can't because it's
something special from the moment. Comuna Photographia, yes, and archives
and archives yes, yes, a musical.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Art musical archives.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I love that, because that's a great transition to this
question that I have for you. That too was released
in twenty twenty two, and obviously we're twenty twenty four
now you're gearing up for the Grammys. How do you
think the album changed you or how have you changed
since this album has been out in the world.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
I don't know how you say that in English, but
it's like Upartia was moment in my life before and
after the tataas Flow is because this album is probably
the most personal album I've done so far, maybe another ones,
but for me, when I finished this one, I was like,
I don't know if anybody's going to connect to this
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music because it's so my story, my broken moments. It
definitely comes from a broken moment, you know, when you
are heartbroken, but then it's your life. It's not the
same for everyone around, but for you, it's like I
need to start all over again. And that encounter, would
you say, comanquentro that like having to reinbent my world,
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my universe. That's why I use the metaphor of the
garden because it's like you go back to your own
inner garden and you need to search it.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
You need to see what's in there.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
You need to you need to to, yeah, reinvent yourself.
So I found it so beautiful to do that, and
for me, this album was my my teacher, my my master.
In the sense of the lyrics of the songs. There
were songs I didn't know what I was writing. I
was just feeling very broken, like Partito, just very simple
(26:28):
and basic message like just be happy, like you came
to this life and to this world to leave a
human experience and to be happy, like just get out
live your life. I don't know, like be happy like that.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
In a way.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
There was something around me saying like come on, girl,
like do it, you can go. It was so simple
that I thought I'm not gonna use the song. It's
so basic. Then Adan was saying like, no, this, this
must be in the album.
Speaker 7 (26:56):
This is really important for the story of all the
songs and what's in there. So I am very grateful
to this one and I take it as I was
reading the book last night, trying to yeah, reconnect, you know,
because it's months since I record the album and we
finished the tour and then I knew I was going
to have interviews, and I just feel like sometimes I
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forget everything. So I was trying to remember the process,
and I was reading the text door and I was
finding like very like important information in there. So I
think this is going to help me the rest of
my life to go back to my roots, my inner
world and universe and take care of that garden.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
We hope you're enjoying our interview with Natalie Laforcade, but
don't go anywhere. Locomotives will be right.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Back and welcome back.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Speaking of your inner garden, do you like the garden?
Do you have a garden at home?
Speaker 6 (27:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Yeah? What are you what are you growing? What do
you like to cultivate?
Speaker 6 (28:04):
I am really like not so good at it, but.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
I have my for example, I love having my I
don't know the name is in English, but I have
my think the al romeo, which are very good plants
for for to clean.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
You know, yeah, I love that.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Beautiful because that is.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
One of my favorite flowers. Is is very wire, you know,
it's strong, like she doesn't care if it's to call
or sony like a lot of songs, and it's very
hot and she's very strong.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
So I love that flower and in Vera cruz.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Orchidias and has been all the flowers that I mentioned
in in the song, like those are the flowers of
my garden.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
A lot of trees where I live. There's there's a lot.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
Of elna like geta all those trees, like it's really beautiful, bam,
A lot of green.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
That sounds beautiful.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Would you say that's like one of your creative hubs,
your creative space where you make You have a studio
right Incruz as well, So do you think having your
physical garden also helps a lot?
Speaker 7 (29:30):
I have this aralias is one of my favorite tree
and I plant them all the way to the studio
because I just feel like I want to see them
and be there. You know, it feels good for me
to be in Beta Gruz. To have this space where
I can is like my my little space, you know, Espaci,
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and that's my working place, so I love to spend
time at there. We actually record part of the album there.
We were doing the khordos and the strings and also
the brass section in my studio and the other part
was in sonic range and so completely different, so different.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Gosh. I have so many follow up questions.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I want to ask about this book you have here
in front of you, that Todas Las Flores.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Is this like a lyric book? Is this writings on
the process?
Speaker 6 (30:33):
Have you seen it?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
No?
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Can you show it to the camera so we can see.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Yeah, this book is part of the we call it
the Sisters Projects of the Todda's Last Floors in this album,
when I was in the studio, I felt like I
had so much to tell, so I was like, Okay,
I want to do a podcast, and I want to
make a book, and I want a movie and I
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want the music.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
And I didn't.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
Realize how much work that was going to be, so
it was crazy.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
I mean, we don't have the movie done, and we.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
Had the visual art for the shows. We're trying to
figure out if that's going to be video clips, probably
because I didn't have video clips, and this project lyric
videos but not really video clips. And this book is
like an album, like it's like photos or I'm gonna
give it a fear so you can just take it.
It's it's all the process of the album, you know,
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I wanted to I don't know, I wanted to share
it this time. And it's the lyrics of those the songs.
Here is the map of the different projects of the album,
moments at the studio recording. The music does interview Spanish, English,
and also the lyrics Spanish and English.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I love this so much. It reminds me back in
the day when and music would come out in a
CD and there would be a booklet with photos and
lyrics and credits and interviews, and you could flip through
while you're listening. Is that sort of the energy and
the intention behind this?
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Totally? Love it, totally. I was concerning a lot the.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
Fact that nowadays people don't have that. Yeah, music is
different now. You can't get to see the lyrics and
the papers and all that.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
So I was thinking small.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
Size, so it would feel like Instagram stories. Yeah, but
you will keep it and it will tell you secrets
as you move through the story of the pages, the
stories on the pages and the lyrics and.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
The hand writing, and it's like a diary.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Like handwritten pages.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, you really let us into the project, not only
with the book but also the podcast, which I think
is quite unique that you made a podcast that accompanies
the album and you're talking about the process.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
So what was your.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Vision behind creating these multiple projects for this one album.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
I think I wanted to get closer to the audience.
First of all, I wanted my followers to feel like
they were in my living room in my house, in
my studio and we were having a conversation, and that
I was going to have the opportunity to explain and
tell them the story behind, but not in a way
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like it just like fast, like right now, right like
we're having a conversation, we're connecting each other, but I
gotta go or you gotta go, and it's very fast.
So I wanted to connect deeper, to go beyond with
the story behind the music. So I guess I was
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just trying to find that way. And then while I
was producing podcast, I was like, whoa, this is a
lot of work and it's gonna take us days, might
bi months.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
And it was like that. It was like months doing
that because I was doing that for the very first time.
Speaker 7 (34:14):
But then I wanted to have people coming to the
podcast talking friends, and I was like, whoa, no, no, no,
crazy work.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
But I had a lot of fun doing it.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I love that you're podcasting. You've made a podcast, You've
been a guest on podcasts, We're on a podcast right now. Yes,
I'm curious. Do you listen to podcasts and do you
have a favorite podcast?
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (34:39):
I normally, Yeah, I was listening into your podcast yesterday
last night. I was listening to the one from twenty
twenty four and yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Good, yeah, girls, very good.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
I was.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
At first, I was like, they talk a lot, and
now they're very good. But it's so funny you talk
about now your girls do really really good.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
I really liked it.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
I don't know, like I don't listen very often to podcasts,
and I don't to be honest, like I had very
very little time for for sometimes, like and whenever I
have the time, like I just go silence or I
just go play my piano my guitar and do those things.
Sometimes people ask like do you did you watch any
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TV show or and I'm like, really, I don't do that,
Like I go to my tree and I just spend
time on my own and go to my My free
time is like other things.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
So I'm not so like aware, But now I was.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
I was listening to your podcast and I was also
listening to Broken music.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Yeah, and I really liked it too. It was really good.
So I don't know.
Speaker 7 (35:51):
I'm taking the opportunity to come always whenever I'm doing interviews,
and that it's a good opportunity for me to see
what's going on because then I go and search what
I'm going Yeah, and the interviews I'm going to have,
like to see what's people doing.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
So you're kind of describing like you're off time, you're downtime.
What do you do on your days off? If you're
not touring, if you're in between projects. How are you
taking care of yourself?
Speaker 6 (36:17):
That's a nice question. I love it. Take care of yourself. Yes,
I tried to get the balance. I work a lot.
My project is demanding.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
I guess it is for you as well, Like to
have your project, your podcast might be a lot of work.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
I guess it is like that.
Speaker 7 (36:33):
I try to make a good balance, you know. I
Lately I've been realizing a lot the fact that being
the artist that I am right now and the musician
and the songwriter and the woman I am right now,
it has been like a lot of growing the last years,
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and it's demanding. And it's also like there's two arts
in the game right Like when it's like, oh, I
am the artist and I am the person that wants
to be inspired and write music and just to I
don't know, to have time to hang out with my friends.
That's so important for me to connect with people because
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that gives me a lot for writing. Then I am
a business woman as well. I realized that, like I
can't run away from that fact. It's been for me
like a journey of learning how to deal with that,
because sometimes it's like I don't want to be this,
but you need to be like that in order to
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grow and.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
To go forward.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
So it's beeen a lot for me like that journey
and learning experience, and I am loving it. I think
I'm finding a place where I can say, like, Okay,
I'm going to off and I'm going to do this
for myself.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
But I realized that to be my space. Recently, I
just started like playing saxophone. I don't know how to
play it.
Speaker 7 (38:06):
I'm really bad, but you know, like that time of
just doing like.
Speaker 6 (38:12):
It's like, I love it.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
So much for me, it gives me so much generally
that I can go back to the emailing and all
the things you know of my own project and my team.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Can we expect a jazz album in the future.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
Me too? You know, like I really I wish, I wish.
Speaker 7 (38:34):
I need to find a really good balance so I
can study it needs you need to study a lot
for that.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Instrumental So you have found much success here in the
United States. You've performed in Carnegie Hall, You're Grammy nominated,
you work with Sony, You're here all the time, and
you have a lot of fans here in the United States.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
I'm super curious your.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Thoughts on what it takes for like a Mexican American
artist to find success in Mexico. Over the years, there's
been many There's like Selena Kidania. More recently Yalizai Suessencia
Becky g gone and performed in Mexico with different degrees
of success and acceptance. What do you think is like
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the secret ingredient, the secret sauce to crossing over into Mexico.
Speaker 7 (39:23):
Into Mexico, I think for in every context, maybe I
will say to really connect to people. I think that's
the ingredient in general, to really find a way you
go to different cultures, ways of living, people.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
Like the way they are like.
Speaker 7 (39:44):
It's it's a journey for me, has been like that
in the United States. I remember twenty years ago the
first time I came, and how many experience and things
that happened before I can come and give a concert
to five dozen people, nine thousand people. It's crazy, like
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I think I didn't imagine like that before. You know,
I don't know to be at Hollywood Bowl with Doda
mel like things like that. For me, it's like a dream,
but it takes time and you need to be passionate
about it and you need to give your love and
your time and dedicate a lot to it to have that.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
So that's what I did.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
And I think in Mexico people are so beautiful and
open heart for people, people from other places to come.
But you just need to find a way to connect
to the culture, people the way of living and that
would be okay.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I love that, thank you. So final question, what's giving
you hope right now?
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Well, when I see what music does to people, it
gives me a lot of hope just to see the
transformation that music can make to inside our hearts or
our souls or person For me, that's.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
All you know.
Speaker 7 (41:14):
For me, music is my boss, it's my teacher, and
there's so many good values that you can see in
the music.
Speaker 6 (41:24):
When when an orchestra.
Speaker 7 (41:27):
Explaining music, when a band they're getting together, they're connecting,
they're doing the chemistry between each other in order to
bring someone.
Speaker 6 (41:39):
Better than all of us.
Speaker 7 (41:41):
But the beautiful thing is that that magic comes and
then we become better because we are all together as one.
So I found that so beautiful, like you give a
concert and then the people are all together singing the
same song, like hulling each other, dancing forgetting about like
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I don't know whatever, but just being present, you know,
and that gives me a lot of hope.
Speaker 6 (42:10):
That's why I believe so much in music and the
music power.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Natalia, thank you so much for sitting down and talking
with us and sharing with us.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
And we hope you win. We hope you win the Grammy.
Speaker 6 (42:22):
Already for you, Glassies. Thank you.
Speaker 7 (42:26):
I think I want already a lot. I can't believe
we're here and very happy to be sharing. I celebrate
for my mates, also my colleagues in the category. And
let's see what happens. And I mean I'll be here
doing more music. It's a pleasant Chicas, Glassias.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
At the time of our interview, Natalia was nominated for
a Grammy, but since the interview, Nathalio one what a
Grammy for twenty twenty four Best Latin Rock or Alternative
Album for her album That SODA's Las Flores.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Thank you to Natalia Laforgada and her team for making
this interview possible.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
One of the things.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
That really resonated with me is that Natalia reminds us
that it's okay to be.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
New at something.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
It's okay to be a beginner, it's okay to try
something and not be good at it. And for all
my fellow perfectionists out there, take note. Because she's learning
how to play a saxophone and loves that she sounds terrible.
And I think that's so important to really think about
and how we can apply.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
That to our own lives. We'll catch you next time.
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Speaker 1 (43:50):
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Speaker 2 (43:54):
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Speaker 3 (43:58):
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Speaker 4 (44:00):
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Speaker 2 (44:05):
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