April 30, 2025 • 38 mins
In this week's episode, Diosa and Mala discuss the expectations of being a woman in yours 30s versus the reality of this decade! Sex and the City is the blueprint for being single, fabulous, and 30, but how much of that is realistic? Diosa reflects on her favorite RomCom journalists and how that it impacted her expectations. Mala discusses how her mother reminds her that youthful energy is a mindset.
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Let's just jump right in into our new segment, climax
and cry. How did you climax this week? How did
you cry?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Oh my god? Oh my god? How did I climax
this week? Well? We picture locked at school.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
What does picture lock mean?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yes, so picture lock means it's the point in your
post production process after you make a movie where the
editors lock in the picture, so everything you see on screen,
frame by frame, the actual moving image is done with
the editing process. Now we're not making any changes to
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the picture, but we are in this process of post
production now where we're color grading, sound design is happening,
sound mixing, our composer is creating our score. So as
a producer on this documentary, it is just a huge
relief to be in this phase of post production, like
the movie has been made and now it's just all
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the bells and whistles. So that was my climax.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I have to admit that's a good one. And how
about you, how is your cry? Did you cry?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Oh? My god, I think I cry this week and
I've been sharing this with you. This is an ongoing thing.
Is my dog Boppas is just giving me so much grief?
I just cannot. I'm just having such a hard time,
like spending enough time with him, and he's acting out
in different ways, and so I'm just trying to figure
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out how to accommodate the school schedule, the shooting schedule,
work schedule, and still making sure that like he gets
all the attention that he needs.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
What did I tell you would be a solution? Tell
them what I told you, to get a second dog.
I know that that might ruin you.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
It'll destroy my life, but it would really help him,
I know I think he need and you know what,
I agree with you. And not too long ago, I
saw an adorable stray dog, yes outside of my apartment,
and I was walking Bopas at the time, and I
literally stopped dead in my tracks because I saw this precious,
precious puppy running around out and about. Sometimes people walk
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their dogs without a leash downtown, so I didn't like,
go and snatch him right away, because I thought, Okay,
well maybe he's with some but he's just not leashed.
And I really, like, I really stood there and watched
this dog from across the street, and I thought about it,
like should I snatch up this puppy and bring him
home and give my dog a companion? But I just
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I'll have a nervous breakdown. It's a lot, it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Having a dog is a big responsibility.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, I totally get it. Yeah, yeah, but that's my climax,
And cry, my poor papas he's he's acting out and
it's all attention seeking behavior.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yes, he's being temperamental.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
He's being very temperamental. He's tearing things up, he's creating messes.
But he's a dog. It's not his fault, right, Yeah, anyway,
so that's my climax, and cry, don't call peta. He's fine,
he's very happy and we'll take in cares. Yes, he's
just he's needy. Yeah, how about you theosa with your climax?
What's your cry for this week?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So one of the ways that I climax this week,
which super Nerdy I went to a podcasting event. Both
went and it was hosted by the Signal Awards and
it was about video forward podcast and the future of podcasting.
And it was out here in Hollywood. It was at
gold Diggers and it was a really cute venue planting seeds. Yes,
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we'd love to use.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
That venue, so whoever's listening, yes.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And it was so cool because like all of our
creative peers were there and there was a really good
conversation about podcasting. Video is video the future of podcasting?
How do we embrace it? How do we know if
it's the right move for our podcast? And I thought
that was really interesting. And it's a conversation that you
and I have ongoing. And I just love to nerd
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out over those kinds of panels. I love to be
in the room with other audio people and just you know,
chatting it up. And so I hadn't been out like
that in a while, like in the middle of the
week for a work thing, and so that was really nice.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
It was fun. It was very fun. It was it
was very nerdy. There was like a YouTube up there.
There was somebody from Headspaced Space dayson Afualo, who is
Drew Afualo's sister was there on the panel because they
co host a podcast called Two Idiot Girls. So Dayson
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brought in the like, you know, content creator side of things,
and yeah, I was the who's who of podcasting. Yeah,
I think.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
It was very cool. I love going. I love when
we're invited, and I love when we're able to go.
So that was really fun. And then my cry of
the week. I mean, I've talked about this before. I
am ruled by the sun and it's been gloomy in
La and it just bums me out. We had a
really beautiful, sunny couple of weeks and then gloom this
past week, and I just I just want to sleep.
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I don't want to go outside. I don't want to work.
It's just cozy weather for me. Yes, I hate I
hate it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
It's uh. La is very tricky in that way where
we think like, oh my god, we're done with the rain,
we're done with the gloom. It's sunny now, we're in spring,
we're in summer, and then it reverts right back.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yes, April is always a gloomy month. I feel it's
like that saying April showers bring me flowers. We haven't
really had a rainy April yet, but it is something
that I know. You know, we get the gloom in April,
so I'm trying not to let it affect me too much,
but I you know it does.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, and that's very reasonable. I feel like you and
I say this every year, like we activate in the summer. Yes,
we come alive.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I've been defrosting, is how I've been describing it. I
normally talk about blooming, but this year I'm defrosting. I
love it eternally, spiritually, emotionally, I'm defrosting.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
It's been a cold winter, yes, in many different ways.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
In every sense, in every sense, everywhere, it's been a.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Cold, cold, frigid winter. What is that movie? Frigid reminds
me of a quote from a specific movie where she's
like that, da da da da, you wouldn't be such,
you wouldn't look like such a frigid bitch or something.
Does this ring a bell?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
No? I have to think about it more.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Me think about it well.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
From Legally Blonde. The quote is from Legally Blonde, and
how does it go?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It goes, I love your outfit when I but when
I dress up like a frigid bitch, I try not
to look so constipated. That's so good and that's l
to Vivian Kensington.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yes, so good.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Anyways, love the word frigid. Thank you for bringing it
in today today's conversation.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Actually you brought it in oh yourself quoting yourself and
a movie.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Oh Lord, what's happening? Well, thank you for sharing your
climax and cry.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
So now let's move into olas. And this question was
submitted by one of our listeners on Instagram, and it goes,
how do you navigate a day that changes your entire mood?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
You are now listening to Oh Yes.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I'm a moody girl. I don't know if the listeners
know that about me, but I'm moody.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Do you think they've picked that up over ten seasons?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I hope, so.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Maybe you drop little hints here and there.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of moody. I know that about myself.
But if for me, I talked about this recently at
the beginning of the season, my moodiness is now I
understand it as anxiety, so I'm able to regulate and
check it and I'm like, girl, it's okay, you know.
But this is also why I exercise a lot, because
I need the endorphins, the outlet yes.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yes, I'm really happy that you took up tennis because
you can hit things. Yes, that's good for you, it's
good for me.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
How do you navigate a day that changes your entire mood?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Oh my god, I mean I think for me. I
love a good nap. Yes, Sometimes you just I just
need to go to sleep, Yes, and just be in darkness.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And it feels better. Afterwards You're like, oh, it wasn't
that bad.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, a little nap, a little rest can really change
your perspective. This sounds super simple, but like a super
cold like sparkling water, yes, will lift my spirits? Yes, instantly,
instantly yes. And what else well, of course, like a
good joint. That'll do it. Those three in combination, actually joint,
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sparkling water, nap, delicious, cured, cured so much better.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yes, I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I'm a treat girl. I want a little treat, and
so if I'm having a bad day, you know, it's like,
let me go drive and get my little ice coffee,
my ice beverage and a little croissant.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
You do love a little tree?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
You do?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
You do love a little reward? I do?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yes, I'm motivated if I say this all the time.
If I don't have a treat a week.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I will die.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Immediately, immediately, I won't have that whither away.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, we can't have that. We need you.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, so that and I think, yeah, just sometimes you
just have to let yourself have a bad day and
then know like tomorrow is a new day. Literally, it's true,
and let yourself feel the feels, feel the anger, feel
the mooniness. Just don't take it out on other people
or yourself or yourself. Yes, don't self sabotage, No, because
that can happen.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Sometimes. I've had those moments where it's like, oh my god,
everything is trash, everything is terrible. I'm trash, I'm terrible,
everything sucks. Throw it all away, set it all on fire.
But you can't because then everything will be trash. Yes,
you know, it's just a it's just a momentary lapse
m hm. And you do your little things to make
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you feel better. You put your little band aids on,
and then you'll be okay.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Your emotional band aids, your emotional band aids. Yeah, it's
like the feminine urge to like run away and like
run to another country. Yes, frolic in a field to
gone girl, it forget everyone.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, yes, start a new identity.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Well, frolic or gone girl. It that's like the only
in between. There's like no one between. It's like one
or the other.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
We have two options.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Frolic gone girl, damn yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Or you listen to like some type of escapist podcast,
or you watch a movie or a TV show. You
do something that takes you out of your reality for
a little bit and gives you that temporary relief yes,
and sense of I'm somewhere.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Else there we go. Yeah, Well, thank you to our
listener for submitting this question. We hope this gives you
a little inspo for how to navigate a moody day.
It's okay to be moody.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It's okay. That's why we have mood comes and goes. Yeah,
if we didn't have moods like, we wouldn't need to
use them. Yes, but we have them to use them. Yes, Yeah,
great question.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Don't go anywhere, lokomotives. We'll be right.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Back and we're back with more of our episode.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
So today we have a light episode. We've been covering
some politics. We had a great interview last episode, and
so we just want to kind of connect with y'all
and talk about the thing that consumes I feel women
right now, especially if you're in your thirties at least,
Like the online chatter is what it means to be
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in your thirties.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Expectation versus reality.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yes, yeah, yeah, So we we're just gonna sit in
this for a little bit and talk about it.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
We're gonna sit in the dirt, yes, in the mud.
It's not that bad, it's great. I think that like
when we think about our thirties, we I think talk
about sex and the city quite a bit because I
think for a lot of people, it's that quintessential womanhood. Yes,
single womanhood, dating, womanhood in a big city, making decisions
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for yourself, good or bad, making a mess, having fun,
falling in love, falling.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Out of love, going out all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Constantly different outfits every episode, yes, no repeat outfits.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yes, brunching all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Constantly brunching. And so I think there's a maybe that
creates an expectation. But what's the reality right Well, first.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Of all, a lot of people are talking about Kerry
Bradshaw as a character I feel on TikTok especially, I
love Carrie. I think she's a messy character. She's written
to be messy, she's written to be real, and people
say they want a messy woman, but they don't actually
like when they.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Get one, when they actually see it, yes.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
They're like, girl, act better. No, she's dumb, Like that's
part of it. There's growth, there's developments, like she's gonna
make bad choices.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, that's the point.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That's the point. She's going to chase after the man
who doesn't really want her.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yes, that's the point. That's the point.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
And in addition to that, I've seen folks say, or
women on TikTok specifically, say, like Carrie Bradshaw and the
cast are only thirty two in season one, amazing, like
your season one is barely starting right, like it's okay, Yeah,
if you don't have it all figured out, it's fine,
and kind of that perspective of like you're just in
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your season one.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
It's true. And so in that sense, I think there
are aspects of a show like Sex and the City
that they are capturing, like a messiness, an internal ca
like this, troubles with love and with with relationships and
conflicts with friends, like that's all in there. What they
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don't capture, of course, because it wouldn't be glamorous or entertaining.
Is the minutia, right of the thirties.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
They also, I mean, and this has been talked about
in depth everywhere else, but Sex and the City captures
a very specific type of New York. Right. It's an
all white cast, they're all at least in the original series,
they're all heterosexual. Right. It's a very specific type of
womanhood that's being represented, so of course want to remember that.
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But yeah, it doesn't cover the ins and outs of
what it means to be growing and being your thirties
and there. But there are a couple other shows at
least that we're going to be talking about today, or
at least some type of representation of thirties.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Of women in their thirties, And there's just I don't know,
they seem there seems to be a focus on setting
these types of stories in New York. I think because
of the whole concrete jungle idea and making your way
through this crazy, glamorous, difficult to live in place, and
it just is this backdrop for I think a lot
of like coming of age and coming into one's own
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type stories.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I feel like stuff in La tends to be more
about well, if it's Latino, it's about gentrification and immigration
and you're Alwilita. But for everybody else, it's like chasing
your dreams.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, you know, you know, I think what show does
cover that kind of My new show that you talked
about is Insecure, right, that's obviously based in La Yeah,
And I think that was a really great representation of
like being broke, trying to figure it out, dating gone wrong, friends, friends,
like having messy friend groups sometimes, and like fights. I
think that was I think the most realistic representation in
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like a diverse way, if you will.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I agree. I agree, And I you know, the origins
of the show being like Diaries of Awkward Black Girl
and that kind of being the core of Lisa's character,
like she's awkward, yeah, and so awkward things are constantly happening,
which is very real. Life is filled with awkward moments,
absolutely awkward interactions, awkward conversations, awkward exchanges. And that does
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not go away in your thirties. No, it doesn't. Maybe
I think I'm less embarrassed or like I care less,
but I'm like this, I'm having an awkward moment. I'm
being awkward right now. This is awkward.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I was just talking about that with my best friend Jackie.
Was that when as a kid, I used to be
ruled by embarrassment, like I wouldn't do and it really
limited me now looking back, like I wouldn't do things
if I was going to be embarrassed if there was
now like a we use the word cringe, right, if
there was like a cringe element of something, I wouldn't
do it. I was very very sensitive to like being perceived,
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what would others think about me? And that can really
limit you and what you do and how you move
and with your growth as a kid, right as an adult,
I've let a lot of that go. So yeah, there's
still times where like, oh my god, did I say that? Okay,
are they judging me? Is this embarrassing? You know, don't
get me wrong, Like I still have those moments, but
they don't rule my life the way they did when
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I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's growth, Yeah, that's growth. Yeah, it's a working past
that can be hard. I think working being an artist
and working in the arts, of course we're sensitive about
our shit. But over the years, I think, I know
I've had to learn like I cannot let the audience
scare me, and doing stand up has you cannot be
afraid of the audience or they will eat you alive.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I could never do stand up.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
It's fun, but it is hard because you have to
just be prepared that everyone in the room might hate you.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
See, this is why I can't do stand up. I
have rejection sensitivity. I will die I combusted on stage
on the stage.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, no, it's I mean, and over the years there
have been those examples of comedians whosh out on stage
when the audience is just not with them and not
vibing with them, and that's a career ruiner. Yeah, you
really have to be okay with the complete silence or
the outright hatred of you. And I think even with
the podcast, like over the years, you know, we've gotten
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comments here and there and reviews and criticism, and if
we let that stop us, we wouldn't be where we are,
you know. So Yeah, I think I don't remember how
we got into this conversation.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Me either, But I want to say, like, even in
just mean, with ten seasons, right, if you go back,
sometimes we go back to season one, season two and
we're like, oh, yes, I cringe a little bit a
little bit love what we were doing, but sometimes the
delivery I'm like, ooh, I would say that differently now,
but of course, I mean it captured that moment in
time in our twenties, what we were learning, what we
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were on at that moment, like what was really important
to us at the moment, and a lot of that
still is true now, but the delivery is just a
little different. The frontal lobe has developed.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Truly, and we have to give ourselves credit because where
we maybe like could have been more eloquent or well
spoken or well researched or whatever. In the early years,
like there were a lot of people like putting out
straight up hate speech, you know, on their social platforms
and using slurs, and you know, not that that's like
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the bar, but in some ways that's a sort of bar.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
We can be very critical of what we create, and
it just people in general can be very critical of themselves.
You know, this goes back to my trying to grow
through that embarrassment, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And as a community, like we have a predominantly LATINX
creative community that we're a part of and a predominantly
LATINX listenership, and we can be very like.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Oh yeah, very very.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Very So it's not just like this self imposed you know,
we know, we know, we know what the criticism could be,
so we do it to ourselves first to protect ourselves.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Our mothers taught us.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Our mothers taught us criticize yourself first before the next
person can do it.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
It's rough, it's rough, don't condone it. But that's definitely
like the backdrop of how we grew up. Our moms
love them for sure, very much, so of ourselves, of
us themselves and others.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yes, it's almost a way to like self edit, like
we edit ourselves, you know, so that like the draft
that we put out, yes, you know, is like okay,
this is a little more polish. Yeah, this is how
I'm trying to think about it. I like that.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I see that. So what were some expectations that maybe
you had, either as a teenager or even in your
twenties of what thirty would look like?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
So definitely more money, And I do think that we
do have more money in our thirties than we had
in our twenties, especially working with through the podcast, working
our way into this network life that we're living and
being under contract with iHeart. I think there is more
money there, but then that also means there's more expenses,
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more work, and more work. I think that maybe going
back to like our favorite movies The Thirteen Going On,
thirty and Right and and Sex and the City. And
I know that there are others out there, but I
feel like in all these films, like everyone's always wearing
open toad shoes. Yes, no one's ever wearing a clothes
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toed shoe. No one's ever wearing a sneaker.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You've been wearing a lot of open toad shoes lately.
Is that happening? Is that you're channeling this like rom
com main.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Girl maybe, but you know it's spring and I love
a sandal. I am an Elle girl. I love a sandal.
But also because of school, because of being in production,
like you have to wear shoes, you know, on set,
and if you if you're on campus, you'll notice like
nobody is wearing sandals at the School of Cinematic specifically. Yeah,
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like everyone's prepared to like like run electricity and set
up lighting and handle equipment at all times.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I would wear my little heels to campus all the time,
strutting through Annenberg. Yeah, I wasn't operating a heavy machinery.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, and so that's just kind of the style is
like you're in sneakers, you're in boots, and uh, you're
like ready to do manual labor. Is kind of the
vibe that's like the filmmaker uniform.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
So do you think that's that kind of effected your
personal style in a way where when you're off campus,
not working doing this instead of this type of work,
you're like, oh, I'm going to dress up. I'm going
to wear that.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yes, yes, yes, And especially because I've been in the
role of producer this semester, I feel like producers have
a little bit more like we're on the phone, we're
answering emails, we're running around, you know, Like I can
be the producer and I can like wear a skirt
and like a kitten heel, and that's more acceptable. If
I'm operating the camera, I can't. That's great, right, you know.
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So yeah, I think I'm like, Okay, I'm tired and
I want to wear I just want to throw on
my chunk glass.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
You know that makes sense?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, what about you expectation versus reality?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Well, I mean thirteen going on thirty was definitely formative
for a lot of millennials and even I saw this
fabulous meme the other day about how there was like
this representation of journalists in rom coms and how that
was the expectation that you had for your life if
you wanted to be a journalist.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
So it's like Andy Anderson from How to Lose a
Guy in Ten Days of course, right, she was writing
like at a fashion style magazine and she just wanted
to write about politics. She wanted to be a serious journalist, right, Yeah,
but she's in her cute little outfits. And same with
Jenna Rink from thirteen going on thirty right, also a journalist,
also a journalist, you know. So I'm like, wow, the journalists,
(24:57):
like that was a job that was like the glamorous
fun job because at one point you could make a living,
a good living off of being a journalist. Yeah, And
I think that that moment from the early two thousands,
mid two thousands brom coms captured that that job and like, oh,
I'm gonna like grow up and be a journalist and
it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Fabulous, and I'm going to move to New York City.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
And I'm going to move to New York and wear
my fabulous, little open to heels on the subway every way,
and I'm going to write about politics and I'm going
to do a magazine rebrand and it's going to be great, fabulous,
you know. So definitely expectation, not so much the reality.
It didn't move to New York.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I stayed in LA.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, so there's that which is which is, and you know,
La is a dream location for so many it is.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I have no regrets. I have no regrets. I think it.
I think that there's that fantasy, right, that expectation of
like I'm going to be the person that moves to
New York right at some point in my life. And
I've let that part go. I'm like, that's that was
not my path, and I'm confident and secure in that
path that I took. But I mean, that would be
the expectation that I think I had as a kid.
(26:06):
I like, even as a kid, I remember we were
in middle school assigned like you had to write to
a college and ask for like them to send you
a brochure because they were teaching us like how to
write a formal letter, okay, and so they had us
practice and send to a university. Girl I wrote to
fit really, Yes, the Fashion Institute, because I was like,
(26:31):
I'm going to be I'm going to work in fashion
and I'm going to move to New York. Of course,
little like middle schooler, right, And they wrote me back
and they sent me a brochure, and I remember being
like so excited about it. Right, Obviously my life went
on it. I went and took a different path. Love
the path I'm on, But I mean that's that would
be like that expectation I had maybe as a kid,
and then even in high school and then in my twenties, right,
(26:53):
still kind of figuring out like what does this career
look like? And you know the reality is entrepreneurs. Yeah,
wild did not envision that for my.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Life business owners.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
It's yeah, it's and I don't mean that in a
negative way. It's just not the path that I saw
myself on.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I love the path. We're on it, we're learning. But
that would be like that for me that if I'm
holding them together. Expectation reality, Oh my god, I'm an entrepreneur.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Right, what right?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
And we definitely, I mean, I know I identify as
an artist first, and I think you identify as an
artist first, and it's coming to terms with the reality
that maybe in film and television one can just be
a painter.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yes, right, Yes, you can just be a journalist living
in New York.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Could just be your craft. But you have to fund
your craft, and you have to monetize your craft. Yes,
And so to be an artist is to be a
business owner.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yes. How was Carrie Bradshaw sustaining her fabulous life for
Fabulous Shoes with a weekly column.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Once a week? Yes, one, there was that one episode
where she was like broke. Yeah, and she went and.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Asked, well, she has all her friends basically.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Money but yes, and they were like no.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
No, well they all wanted to give her money except
for the one that had the money, Charlotte. Yes, and
that was like a thing.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And she and Carrie was upset about that. Yes, basically
like how could you not give me money?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
How could you not offer me money? You live on
Fifth Avenue and like by the park, Like it.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Was like, your financial issues are not my problem.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Exactly, like get it together.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Sweet. She wasn't wrong, No.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
She was not wrong. She was not wrong. I think Carrie.
I give Carrie a live benefit of the doubt all
the time. Of course, she's like when I watch her,
I'm like, I see it, girl, Like, I don't agree
with it, but I see it. She doesn't want it
to be offered the money. I don't think she would
have taken it. She did end up taking it because
Charlotte did offer in the end. That was like the arc, right,
(28:57):
But I think she just wanted the.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Gesture yes, like show me that you care about me
in a way that you're capable of coming through on. Yes,
you know that maybe asking the other girls wouldn't be
as feasible, but it's it's feasible for you. Yes, Yes,
after her divorce, she did very well after her divorce.
Well yeah, And that's another one, is okay, expectation versus reality.
(29:21):
I think in these pieces of media, divorce is something
that you come out of with something tangible right, and
it sets you up and it's almost something to celebrate.
But I think in reality we're not divorced. But in reality,
I think it's a much messier, more painful, and more
expensive thing.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Don't go anywhere, lookomotives, We'll be right back, and we're
back with more of our episode.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
What else? Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
So another like reality of being in our thirties. Oh,
my god, just like the constant cleaning, just constantly cleaning, right,
constantly cleaning, and it gives me so much perspective. Like
growing up, I remember being like, why is my mom
so insane about cleaning? She's like always up in arms,
like running, like like it was a constant stress. Yes,
(30:20):
you know, and like so and so their house is
always immaculate and why no, no, no, no, no, no, no, all that.
But our house was also like people were always at
our house, like friends, the track team, the cross country team,
like sleepovers. We always had people in our house like friends,
and we would host parties and all kinds of things.
(30:40):
And so it was also this like, oh, we're always
getting ready because people are coming over. You know, someone's
coming over. We gotta get ready. Someone's coming over. We
gotta get ready.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
The house has to be clean for people to come over.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yes, yeah, And as an adult, it's like, okay, now
I understand why it was just this constant loop. Yes,
because it's a constant just reality is one is constantly cleaning,
and like constantly buying paper towels, constantly buying toilet paper,
constantly buying swift or wet white.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
It's expensive, it's expensive. Yeah, you know what else, my
expectation and reality look very different. And I feel this
is partly based on location. But in Sex and the City,
the girls were going out all.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
The time, constantly.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
How did they have the stamina at their age, because
I'm thirty one and I don't have the stamina no
at all.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
No.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Granted we live through a global pandemic. Lots of things
are happening. It makes sense, right, it's fictional. Yeah, they
were going out all the time. But I also makes
me wonder, is it also because they lived in New
York and it's still walkable. So for us, it's like
it could be a whole journey to go out. It's
true because it's maybe further out we have to take
an uber or maybe we're driving, but then there's traffic,
(31:52):
Like it's a whole thing to go out in LA
And so sometimes that will determin me like, oh, I
don't really want to get ready to go out and
to drive, and I'll stop myself.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
No truly, I mean yeah, that would be.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
My expectation and reality that's a little different.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
The expectation is like, oh, it's Friday, we're going out.
It's Saturday, we're going out.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Again, cocktail hour, happy hour.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yes, the reality is like how many happy hours can
we really go to if you have to drive to
all of them? Yes, A, yes, you know. And B
It's like I feel like the women in Sex and
the City, they were in their New York City apartments,
So I think it's easy to like, oh, it's your
tiny apartment.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
You're just hopping out, like got to get out. I'm
going to go to my neighborhood bar, I'm going to
go somewhere fabulous, because they were going to fababulous places.
They were just going to the neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Water, And so I think about a place like New
York and instead of staying in you like your tiny
little box that you live in, like you got to
get out right and you don't have a yard and
you don't really have your neighborhood. Is like I guess
it's a neighborhood, right, but like I wouldn't. I would
feel probably that claustrophobia that makes sense, you know, Yes,
let me get out of here.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Something I'm trying to do I'm trying to channel, especially
this summer is just more impromptu gatherings, hangs, cocktail hours,
if you will, Sananda and I had this day last
last week where we were just like out and about
the whole day and it was lovely and we hadn't
had one of those days in a while where we
were just like unplanned, let's just like see where we go.
And we ended up going to like all our favorite
(33:21):
little spots. But it was really nice and we were
there just us too, like having our cocktail that heen
joined us, and there was this group of people. It
started small, it was just like four people like having
their cocktail as a friend group, and then it got
bigger and bigger and bigger, and like people just kept
popping in like as it went, and I was like, okay,
(33:41):
the way my friend's schedules are, like I don't know
if I could text them right now and be like
come grab a drink, right, but I'm aspiring to have
that kind of hang this summer or it's just it's
just random spontaneous. If you're free, you're free, come grab
a drink, come to the park, come hang out. I
think that's like that, just like that spontaneity that makes
(34:02):
life so fun. Like, oh you know, I got to
see my friend today and it was lovely. Yeah, we
got to hang out and it wasn't planned. It wasn't
someone's birthday. I feel like the older we get, the
more it's about the birthday gatherings, the holidays, which is great,
but like all that in between time is so important,
and so that's something I'm like trying to orchestrate as
the planner of my friend group.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I love that. Yeah, I love Please include me in
the impromptu hang Yes, I will invite you. It just
might be there.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
She's like, I might be available.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
She just might attend. But yeah, expectation versus reality. I
think thirties are fabulous. I'm having a wonderful time. I'm
like continuing to learn and grow as a person and
just figuring things out. Continue. And that's part of it too,
is like it's not all figured out by the time
you're thirty. No, it's a continuous process. It never ends.
(34:56):
It never ends.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
It's also never too late to pivot. No, I've never
been less afraid to not have a plan. And I'm
such a planner. But it's like, ooh, sometimes we pivot,
And I agree, not having you're not going to have
everything figured out by the time you're thirty.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
No.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I also wasn't afraid to turn thirty. I feel like
with the I mean, we talked about positive representations right
of like being you're thirty and being a young woman,
or just being a woman in your thirties. But I
feel like, you know, the culture, pop culture at least
has had these representations of like being afraid to turn thirty, right.
I was thinking about, you know, in the series Friends,
(35:34):
when we start, everyone's in their twenties. Yeah, at least
the characters are. And so there's an episode about everyone
turning thirty and they're all miserable, like it's horrible, their
life is over. They didn't do everything they thought they
were going to do by the time they were thirty,
and that's like the whole point of the episode. I
didn't feel afraid to turn thirty. I felt like, I'm
ready to turn thirty. I'm ready to put these twenties
(35:55):
behind me. Let's see what happens. Thirties have been rough,
let me say, but there's also been a lot of
like beautiful things, lots of growth, lots of lovely, wonderful things.
It's still life. It's still challenging. I think whatever decade
you're in and we're still young. That is something I've
been telling myself is young. I'm sorry, y'all, we have
(36:15):
got to let go of this like Signora mentality. I'm
so old. Yes to Senora, No, get out, get out,
do something, do everything, do everything. We're so young.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yes. My mom is in her sixties and she's still dance.
My mom's a professional dancer. She still performs. She still dances. Yes,
And she's in rehearsal every week, and she's performing every week.
And it's like hard work. It's very physical. It's like
very exhausting work. But she's an incredible shape. My mom
has so much energy.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Your mom has a lot of stamina. Your mom also
likes to go out, like with her friends, like they
like to go dancing. Yeah, like little events.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
They go out for their little margarita, they go out
for their little brunches. They have like their spots like
to go to. For a while, my mom was hosting
this Mesa and Mimosa's event where she would like her
and her friends would pick a different church and go
to Mass and then get Mimosa's afterwards. They're constantly out.
If anything, my mom lives more of a sex in
the city life than I ever have truly, truly yes,
(37:18):
and they're getting they get together, they talk about their
husbands and their ex husbands and their next husbands. You know,
for them, it is fabulous, so she to me. Even
sometimes when I'm with my mom, I feel like I'm
the less energetic one. Yes, you know, and so she is.
This just reminder that like youth.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
And energy is, it's a mindset.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
It's a mindset and that can carry with you even
into your sixties and seventies.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I love that. That's a great, great place to pause. Yes, yes,
we're still young. We will continue to be young.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
We will forever young for every young.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Let's go grab a cocktail. Thank you for listening to
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Let's just jump right in into our new segment, climax
and cry. How did you climax this week? How did
you cry?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Oh my god? Oh my god? How did I climax
this week? Well? We picture locked at school.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
What does picture lock mean?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yes, so picture lock means it's the point in your
post production process after you make a movie where the
editors lock in the picture, so everything you see on screen,
frame by frame, the actual moving image is done with
the editing process. Now we're not making any changes to
(02:23):
the picture, but we are in this process of post
production now where we're color grading, sound design is happening,
sound mixing, our composer is creating our score. So as
a producer on this documentary, it is just a huge
relief to be in this phase of post production, like
the movie has been made and now it's just all
(02:45):
the bells and whistles. So that was my climax.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I have to admit that's a good one. And how
about you, how is your cry? Did you cry?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Oh? My god, I think I cry this week and
I've been sharing this with you. This is an ongoing thing.
Is my dog Boppas is just giving me so much grief?
I just cannot. I'm just having such a hard time,
like spending enough time with him, and he's acting out
in different ways, and so I'm just trying to figure
(03:13):
out how to accommodate the school schedule, the shooting schedule,
work schedule, and still making sure that like he gets
all the attention that he needs.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
What did I tell you would be a solution? Tell
them what I told you, to get a second dog.
I know that that might ruin you.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
It'll destroy my life, but it would really help him,
I know I think he need and you know what,
I agree with you. And not too long ago, I
saw an adorable stray dog, yes outside of my apartment,
and I was walking Bopas at the time, and I
literally stopped dead in my tracks because I saw this precious,
precious puppy running around out and about. Sometimes people walk
(03:53):
their dogs without a leash downtown, so I didn't like,
go and snatch him right away, because I thought, Okay,
well maybe he's with some but he's just not leashed.
And I really, like, I really stood there and watched
this dog from across the street, and I thought about it,
like should I snatch up this puppy and bring him
home and give my dog a companion? But I just
(04:16):
I'll have a nervous breakdown. It's a lot, it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Having a dog is a big responsibility.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, I totally get it. Yeah, yeah, but that's my climax,
And cry, my poor papas he's he's acting out and
it's all attention seeking behavior.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yes, he's being temperamental.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
He's being very temperamental. He's tearing things up, he's creating messes.
But he's a dog. It's not his fault, right, Yeah, anyway,
so that's my climax, and cry, don't call peta. He's fine,
he's very happy and we'll take in cares. Yes, he's
just he's needy. Yeah, how about you theosa with your climax?
What's your cry for this week?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So one of the ways that I climax this week,
which super Nerdy I went to a podcasting event. Both
went and it was hosted by the Signal Awards and
it was about video forward podcast and the future of podcasting.
And it was out here in Hollywood. It was at
gold Diggers and it was a really cute venue planting seeds. Yes,
(05:15):
we'd love to use.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
That venue, so whoever's listening, yes.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And it was so cool because like all of our
creative peers were there and there was a really good
conversation about podcasting. Video is video the future of podcasting?
How do we embrace it? How do we know if
it's the right move for our podcast? And I thought
that was really interesting. And it's a conversation that you
and I have ongoing. And I just love to nerd
(05:39):
out over those kinds of panels. I love to be
in the room with other audio people and just you know,
chatting it up. And so I hadn't been out like
that in a while, like in the middle of the
week for a work thing, and so that was really nice.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
It was fun. It was very fun. It was it
was very nerdy. There was like a YouTube up there.
There was somebody from Headspaced Space dayson Afualo, who is
Drew Afualo's sister was there on the panel because they
co host a podcast called Two Idiot Girls. So Dayson
(06:15):
brought in the like, you know, content creator side of things,
and yeah, I was the who's who of podcasting. Yeah,
I think.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
It was very cool. I love going. I love when
we're invited, and I love when we're able to go.
So that was really fun. And then my cry of
the week. I mean, I've talked about this before. I
am ruled by the sun and it's been gloomy in
La and it just bums me out. We had a
really beautiful, sunny couple of weeks and then gloom this
past week, and I just I just want to sleep.
(06:43):
I don't want to go outside. I don't want to work.
It's just cozy weather for me. Yes, I hate I
hate it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
It's uh. La is very tricky in that way where
we think like, oh my god, we're done with the rain,
we're done with the gloom. It's sunny now, we're in spring,
we're in summer, and then it reverts right back.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yes, April is always a gloomy month. I feel it's
like that saying April showers bring me flowers. We haven't
really had a rainy April yet, but it is something
that I know. You know, we get the gloom in April,
so I'm trying not to let it affect me too much,
but I you know it does.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, and that's very reasonable. I feel like you and
I say this every year, like we activate in the summer. Yes,
we come alive.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I've been defrosting, is how I've been describing it. I
normally talk about blooming, but this year I'm defrosting. I
love it eternally, spiritually, emotionally, I'm defrosting.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
It's been a cold winter, yes, in many different ways.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
In every sense, in every sense, everywhere, it's been a.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Cold, cold, frigid winter. What is that movie? Frigid reminds
me of a quote from a specific movie where she's
like that, da da da da, you wouldn't be such,
you wouldn't look like such a frigid bitch or something.
Does this ring a bell?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
No? I have to think about it more.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Me think about it well.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
From Legally Blonde. The quote is from Legally Blonde, and
how does it go?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It goes, I love your outfit when I but when
I dress up like a frigid bitch, I try not
to look so constipated. That's so good and that's l
to Vivian Kensington.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yes, so good.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Anyways, love the word frigid. Thank you for bringing it
in today today's conversation.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Actually you brought it in oh yourself quoting yourself and
a movie.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Oh Lord, what's happening? Well, thank you for sharing your
climax and cry.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
So now let's move into olas. And this question was
submitted by one of our listeners on Instagram, and it goes,
how do you navigate a day that changes your entire mood?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
You are now listening to Oh Yes.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I'm a moody girl. I don't know if the listeners
know that about me, but I'm moody.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Do you think they've picked that up over ten seasons?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I hope, so.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Maybe you drop little hints here and there.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of moody. I know that about myself.
But if for me, I talked about this recently at
the beginning of the season, my moodiness is now I
understand it as anxiety, so I'm able to regulate and
check it and I'm like, girl, it's okay, you know.
But this is also why I exercise a lot, because
I need the endorphins, the outlet yes.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yes, I'm really happy that you took up tennis because
you can hit things. Yes, that's good for you, it's
good for me.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
How do you navigate a day that changes your entire mood?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Oh my god, I mean I think for me. I
love a good nap. Yes, Sometimes you just I just
need to go to sleep, Yes, and just be in darkness.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And it feels better. Afterwards You're like, oh, it wasn't
that bad.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, a little nap, a little rest can really change
your perspective. This sounds super simple, but like a super
cold like sparkling water, yes, will lift my spirits? Yes, instantly,
instantly yes. And what else well, of course, like a
good joint. That'll do it. Those three in combination, actually joint,
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sparkling water, nap, delicious, cured, cured so much better.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yes, I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I'm a treat girl. I want a little treat, and
so if I'm having a bad day, you know, it's like,
let me go drive and get my little ice coffee,
my ice beverage and a little croissant.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
You do love a little tree?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
You do?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
You do love a little reward? I do?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yes, I'm motivated if I say this all the time.
If I don't have a treat a week.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I will die.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Immediately, immediately, I won't have that whither away.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, we can't have that. We need you.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, so that and I think, yeah, just sometimes you
just have to let yourself have a bad day and
then know like tomorrow is a new day. Literally, it's true,
and let yourself feel the feels, feel the anger, feel
the mooniness. Just don't take it out on other people
or yourself or yourself. Yes, don't self sabotage, No, because
that can happen.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Sometimes. I've had those moments where it's like, oh my god,
everything is trash, everything is terrible. I'm trash, I'm terrible,
everything sucks. Throw it all away, set it all on fire.
But you can't because then everything will be trash. Yes,
you know, it's just a it's just a momentary lapse
m hm. And you do your little things to make
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you feel better. You put your little band aids on,
and then you'll be okay.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Your emotional band aids, your emotional band aids. Yeah, it's
like the feminine urge to like run away and like
run to another country. Yes, frolic in a field to
gone girl, it forget everyone.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, yes, start a new identity.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Well, frolic or gone girl. It that's like the only
in between. There's like no one between. It's like one
or the other.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
We have two options.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Frolic gone girl, damn yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Or you listen to like some type of escapist podcast,
or you watch a movie or a TV show. You
do something that takes you out of your reality for
a little bit and gives you that temporary relief yes,
and sense of I'm somewhere.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Else there we go. Yeah, Well, thank you to our
listener for submitting this question. We hope this gives you
a little inspo for how to navigate a moody day.
It's okay to be moody.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It's okay. That's why we have mood comes and goes. Yeah,
if we didn't have moods like, we wouldn't need to
use them. Yes, but we have them to use them. Yes, Yeah,
great question.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Don't go anywhere, lokomotives. We'll be right.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Back and we're back with more of our episode.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
So today we have a light episode. We've been covering
some politics. We had a great interview last episode, and
so we just want to kind of connect with y'all
and talk about the thing that consumes I feel women
right now, especially if you're in your thirties at least,
Like the online chatter is what it means to be
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in your thirties.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Expectation versus reality.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yes, yeah, yeah, So we we're just gonna sit in
this for a little bit and talk about it.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
We're gonna sit in the dirt, yes, in the mud.
It's not that bad, it's great. I think that like
when we think about our thirties, we I think talk
about sex and the city quite a bit because I
think for a lot of people, it's that quintessential womanhood. Yes,
single womanhood, dating, womanhood in a big city, making decisions
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for yourself, good or bad, making a mess, having fun,
falling in love, falling.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Out of love, going out all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Constantly different outfits every episode, yes, no repeat outfits.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yes, brunching all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Constantly brunching. And so I think there's a maybe that
creates an expectation. But what's the reality right Well, first.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Of all, a lot of people are talking about Kerry
Bradshaw as a character I feel on TikTok especially, I
love Carrie. I think she's a messy character. She's written
to be messy, she's written to be real, and people
say they want a messy woman, but they don't actually
like when they.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Get one, when they actually see it, yes.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
They're like, girl, act better. No, she's dumb, Like that's
part of it. There's growth, there's developments, like she's gonna
make bad choices.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, that's the point.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That's the point. She's going to chase after the man
who doesn't really want her.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yes, that's the point. That's the point.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
And in addition to that, I've seen folks say, or
women on TikTok specifically, say, like Carrie Bradshaw and the
cast are only thirty two in season one, amazing, like
your season one is barely starting right, like it's okay, Yeah,
if you don't have it all figured out, it's fine,
and kind of that perspective of like you're just in
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your season one.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
It's true. And so in that sense, I think there
are aspects of a show like Sex and the City
that they are capturing, like a messiness, an internal ca
like this, troubles with love and with with relationships and
conflicts with friends, like that's all in there. What they
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don't capture, of course, because it wouldn't be glamorous or entertaining.
Is the minutia, right of the thirties.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
They also, I mean, and this has been talked about
in depth everywhere else, but Sex and the City captures
a very specific type of New York. Right. It's an
all white cast, they're all at least in the original series,
they're all heterosexual. Right. It's a very specific type of
womanhood that's being represented, so of course want to remember that.
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But yeah, it doesn't cover the ins and outs of
what it means to be growing and being your thirties
and there. But there are a couple other shows at
least that we're going to be talking about today, or
at least some type of representation of thirties.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Of women in their thirties, And there's just I don't know,
they seem there seems to be a focus on setting
these types of stories in New York. I think because
of the whole concrete jungle idea and making your way
through this crazy, glamorous, difficult to live in place, and
it just is this backdrop for I think a lot
of like coming of age and coming into one's own
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type stories.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I feel like stuff in La tends to be more
about well, if it's Latino, it's about gentrification and immigration
and you're Alwilita. But for everybody else, it's like chasing
your dreams.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, you know, you know, I think what show does
cover that kind of My new show that you talked
about is Insecure, right, that's obviously based in La Yeah,
And I think that was a really great representation of
like being broke, trying to figure it out, dating gone wrong, friends, friends,
like having messy friend groups sometimes, and like fights. I
think that was I think the most realistic representation in
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like a diverse way, if you will.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I agree. I agree, And I you know, the origins
of the show being like Diaries of Awkward Black Girl
and that kind of being the core of Lisa's character,
like she's awkward, yeah, and so awkward things are constantly happening,
which is very real. Life is filled with awkward moments,
absolutely awkward interactions, awkward conversations, awkward exchanges. And that does
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not go away in your thirties. No, it doesn't. Maybe
I think I'm less embarrassed or like I care less,
but I'm like this, I'm having an awkward moment. I'm
being awkward right now. This is awkward.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I was just talking about that with my best friend Jackie.
Was that when as a kid, I used to be
ruled by embarrassment, like I wouldn't do and it really
limited me now looking back, like I wouldn't do things
if I was going to be embarrassed if there was
now like a we use the word cringe, right, if
there was like a cringe element of something, I wouldn't
do it. I was very very sensitive to like being perceived,
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what would others think about me? And that can really
limit you and what you do and how you move
and with your growth as a kid, right as an adult,
I've let a lot of that go. So yeah, there's
still times where like, oh my god, did I say that? Okay,
are they judging me? Is this embarrassing? You know, don't
get me wrong, Like I still have those moments, but
they don't rule my life the way they did when
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I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
That's growth, Yeah, that's growth. Yeah, it's a working past
that can be hard. I think working being an artist
and working in the arts, of course we're sensitive about
our shit. But over the years, I think, I know
I've had to learn like I cannot let the audience
scare me, and doing stand up has you cannot be
afraid of the audience or they will eat you alive.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I could never do stand up.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
It's fun, but it is hard because you have to
just be prepared that everyone in the room might hate you.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
See, this is why I can't do stand up. I
have rejection sensitivity. I will die I combusted on stage
on the stage.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, no, it's I mean, and over the years there
have been those examples of comedians whosh out on stage
when the audience is just not with them and not
vibing with them, and that's a career ruiner. Yeah, you
really have to be okay with the complete silence or
the outright hatred of you. And I think even with
the podcast, like over the years, you know, we've gotten
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comments here and there and reviews and criticism, and if
we let that stop us, we wouldn't be where we are,
you know. So Yeah, I think I don't remember how
we got into this conversation.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Me either, But I want to say, like, even in
just mean, with ten seasons, right, if you go back,
sometimes we go back to season one, season two and
we're like, oh, yes, I cringe a little bit a
little bit love what we were doing, but sometimes the
delivery I'm like, ooh, I would say that differently now,
but of course, I mean it captured that moment in
time in our twenties, what we were learning, what we
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were on at that moment, like what was really important
to us at the moment, and a lot of that
still is true now, but the delivery is just a
little different. The frontal lobe has developed.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Truly, and we have to give ourselves credit because where
we maybe like could have been more eloquent or well
spoken or well researched or whatever. In the early years,
like there were a lot of people like putting out
straight up hate speech, you know, on their social platforms
and using slurs, and you know, not that that's like
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the bar, but in some ways that's a sort of bar.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
We can be very critical of what we create, and
it just people in general can be very critical of themselves.
You know, this goes back to my trying to grow
through that embarrassment, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And as a community, like we have a predominantly LATINX
creative community that we're a part of and a predominantly
LATINX listenership, and we can be very like.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Oh yeah, very very.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Very So it's not just like this self imposed you know,
we know, we know, we know what the criticism could be,
so we do it to ourselves first to protect ourselves.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Our mothers taught us.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Our mothers taught us criticize yourself first before the next
person can do it.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
It's rough, it's rough, don't condone it. But that's definitely
like the backdrop of how we grew up. Our moms
love them for sure, very much, so of ourselves, of
us themselves and others.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yes, it's almost a way to like self edit, like
we edit ourselves, you know, so that like the draft
that we put out, yes, you know, is like okay,
this is a little more polish. Yeah, this is how
I'm trying to think about it. I like that.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I see that. So what were some expectations that maybe
you had, either as a teenager or even in your
twenties of what thirty would look like?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
So definitely more money, And I do think that we
do have more money in our thirties than we had
in our twenties, especially working with through the podcast, working
our way into this network life that we're living and
being under contract with iHeart. I think there is more
money there, but then that also means there's more expenses,
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more work, and more work. I think that maybe going
back to like our favorite movies The Thirteen Going On,
thirty and Right and and Sex and the City. And
I know that there are others out there, but I
feel like in all these films, like everyone's always wearing
open toad shoes. Yes, no one's ever wearing a clothes
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toed shoe. No one's ever wearing a sneaker.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You've been wearing a lot of open toad shoes lately.
Is that happening? Is that you're channeling this like rom
com main.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Girl maybe, but you know it's spring and I love
a sandal. I am an Elle girl. I love a sandal.
But also because of school, because of being in production,
like you have to wear shoes, you know, on set,
and if you if you're on campus, you'll notice like
nobody is wearing sandals at the School of Cinematic specifically. Yeah,
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like everyone's prepared to like like run electricity and set
up lighting and handle equipment at all times.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I would wear my little heels to campus all the time,
strutting through Annenberg. Yeah, I wasn't operating a heavy machinery.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, and so that's just kind of the style is
like you're in sneakers, you're in boots, and uh, you're
like ready to do manual labor. Is kind of the
vibe that's like the filmmaker uniform.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
So do you think that's that kind of effected your
personal style in a way where when you're off campus,
not working doing this instead of this type of work,
you're like, oh, I'm going to dress up. I'm going
to wear that.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yes, yes, yes, And especially because I've been in the
role of producer this semester, I feel like producers have
a little bit more like we're on the phone, we're
answering emails, we're running around, you know, Like I can
be the producer and I can like wear a skirt
and like a kitten heel, and that's more acceptable. If
I'm operating the camera, I can't. That's great, right, you know.
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So yeah, I think I'm like, Okay, I'm tired and
I want to wear I just want to throw on
my chunk glass.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
You know that makes sense?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, what about you expectation versus reality?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Well, I mean thirteen going on thirty was definitely formative
for a lot of millennials and even I saw this
fabulous meme the other day about how there was like
this representation of journalists in rom coms and how that
was the expectation that you had for your life if
you wanted to be a journalist.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
So it's like Andy Anderson from How to Lose a
Guy in Ten Days of course, right, she was writing
like at a fashion style magazine and she just wanted
to write about politics. She wanted to be a serious journalist, right, Yeah,
but she's in her cute little outfits. And same with
Jenna Rink from thirteen going on thirty right, also a journalist,
also a journalist, you know. So I'm like, wow, the journalists,
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like that was a job that was like the glamorous
fun job because at one point you could make a living,
a good living off of being a journalist. Yeah, And
I think that that moment from the early two thousands,
mid two thousands brom coms captured that that job and like, oh,
I'm gonna like grow up and be a journalist and
it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Fabulous, and I'm going to move to New York City.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
And I'm going to move to New York and wear
my fabulous, little open to heels on the subway every way,
and I'm going to write about politics and I'm going
to do a magazine rebrand and it's going to be great, fabulous,
you know. So definitely expectation, not so much the reality.
It didn't move to New York.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I stayed in LA.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, so there's that which is which is, and you know,
La is a dream location for so many it is.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I have no regrets. I have no regrets. I think it.
I think that there's that fantasy, right, that expectation of
like I'm going to be the person that moves to
New York right at some point in my life. And
I've let that part go. I'm like, that's that was
not my path, and I'm confident and secure in that
path that I took. But I mean, that would be
the expectation that I think I had as a kid.
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I like, even as a kid, I remember we were
in middle school assigned like you had to write to
a college and ask for like them to send you
a brochure because they were teaching us like how to
write a formal letter, okay, and so they had us
practice and send to a university. Girl I wrote to
fit really, Yes, the Fashion Institute, because I was like,
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I'm going to be I'm going to work in fashion
and I'm going to move to New York. Of course,
little like middle schooler, right, And they wrote me back
and they sent me a brochure, and I remember being
like so excited about it. Right, Obviously my life went
on it. I went and took a different path. Love
the path I'm on, But I mean that's that would
be like that expectation I had maybe as a kid,
and then even in high school and then in my twenties, right,
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still kind of figuring out like what does this career
look like? And you know the reality is entrepreneurs. Yeah,
wild did not envision that for my.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Life business owners.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
It's yeah, it's and I don't mean that in a
negative way. It's just not the path that I saw
myself on.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I love the path. We're on it, we're learning. But
that would be like that for me that if I'm
holding them together. Expectation reality, Oh my god, I'm an entrepreneur.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Right, what right?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
And we definitely, I mean, I know I identify as
an artist first, and I think you identify as an
artist first, and it's coming to terms with the reality
that maybe in film and television one can just be
a painter.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yes, right, Yes, you can just be a journalist living
in New York.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Could just be your craft. But you have to fund
your craft, and you have to monetize your craft. Yes,
And so to be an artist is to be a
business owner.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yes. How was Carrie Bradshaw sustaining her fabulous life for
Fabulous Shoes with a weekly column.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Once a week? Yes, one, there was that one episode
where she was like broke. Yeah, and she went and.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Asked, well, she has all her friends basically.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Money but yes, and they were like no.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
No, well they all wanted to give her money except
for the one that had the money, Charlotte. Yes, and
that was like a thing.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And she and Carrie was upset about that. Yes, basically
like how could you not give me money?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
How could you not offer me money? You live on
Fifth Avenue and like by the park, Like it.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Was like, your financial issues are not my problem.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Exactly, like get it together.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Sweet. She wasn't wrong, No.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
She was not wrong. She was not wrong. I think Carrie.
I give Carrie a live benefit of the doubt all
the time. Of course, she's like when I watch her,
I'm like, I see it, girl, Like, I don't agree
with it, but I see it. She doesn't want it
to be offered the money. I don't think she would
have taken it. She did end up taking it because
Charlotte did offer in the end. That was like the arc, right,
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But I think she just wanted the.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Gesture yes, like show me that you care about me
in a way that you're capable of coming through on. Yes,
you know that maybe asking the other girls wouldn't be
as feasible, but it's it's feasible for you. Yes, Yes,
after her divorce, she did very well after her divorce.
Well yeah, And that's another one, is okay, expectation versus reality.
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I think in these pieces of media, divorce is something
that you come out of with something tangible right, and
it sets you up and it's almost something to celebrate.
But I think in reality we're not divorced. But in reality,
I think it's a much messier, more painful, and more
expensive thing.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Don't go anywhere, lookomotives, We'll be right back, and we're
back with more of our episode.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
What else? Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
So another like reality of being in our thirties. Oh,
my god, just like the constant cleaning, just constantly cleaning, right,
constantly cleaning, and it gives me so much perspective. Like
growing up, I remember being like, why is my mom
so insane about cleaning? She's like always up in arms,
like running, like like it was a constant stress. Yes,
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you know, and like so and so their house is
always immaculate and why no, no, no, no, no, no, no, all that.
But our house was also like people were always at
our house, like friends, the track team, the cross country team,
like sleepovers. We always had people in our house like friends,
and we would host parties and all kinds of things.
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And so it was also this like, oh, we're always
getting ready because people are coming over. You know, someone's
coming over. We gotta get ready. Someone's coming over. We
gotta get ready.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
The house has to be clean for people to come over.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yes, yeah, And as an adult, it's like, okay, now
I understand why it was just this constant loop. Yes,
because it's a constant just reality is one is constantly cleaning,
and like constantly buying paper towels, constantly buying toilet paper,
constantly buying swift or wet white.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
It's expensive, it's expensive. Yeah, you know what else, my
expectation and reality look very different. And I feel this
is partly based on location. But in Sex and the City,
the girls were going out all.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
The time, constantly.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
How did they have the stamina at their age, because
I'm thirty one and I don't have the stamina no
at all.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
No.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Granted we live through a global pandemic. Lots of things
are happening. It makes sense, right, it's fictional. Yeah, they
were going out all the time. But I also makes
me wonder, is it also because they lived in New
York and it's still walkable. So for us, it's like
it could be a whole journey to go out. It's
true because it's maybe further out we have to take
an uber or maybe we're driving, but then there's traffic,
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Like it's a whole thing to go out in LA
And so sometimes that will determin me like, oh, I
don't really want to get ready to go out and
to drive, and I'll stop myself.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
No truly, I mean yeah, that would be.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
My expectation and reality that's a little different.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
The expectation is like, oh, it's Friday, we're going out.
It's Saturday, we're going out.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Again, cocktail hour, happy hour.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yes, the reality is like how many happy hours can
we really go to if you have to drive to
all of them? Yes, A, yes, you know. And B
It's like I feel like the women in Sex and
the City, they were in their New York City apartments,
So I think it's easy to like, oh, it's your
tiny apartment.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
You're just hopping out, like got to get out. I'm
going to go to my neighborhood bar, I'm going to
go somewhere fabulous, because they were going to fababulous places.
They were just going to the neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Water, And so I think about a place like New
York and instead of staying in you like your tiny
little box that you live in, like you got to
get out right and you don't have a yard and
you don't really have your neighborhood. Is like I guess
it's a neighborhood, right, but like I wouldn't. I would
feel probably that claustrophobia that makes sense, you know, Yes,
let me get out of here.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Something I'm trying to do I'm trying to channel, especially
this summer is just more impromptu gatherings, hangs, cocktail hours,
if you will, Sananda and I had this day last
last week where we were just like out and about
the whole day and it was lovely and we hadn't
had one of those days in a while where we
were just like unplanned, let's just like see where we go.
And we ended up going to like all our favorite
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little spots. But it was really nice and we were
there just us too, like having our cocktail that heen
joined us, and there was this group of people. It
started small, it was just like four people like having
their cocktail as a friend group, and then it got
bigger and bigger and bigger, and like people just kept
popping in like as it went, and I was like, okay,
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the way my friend's schedules are, like I don't know
if I could text them right now and be like
come grab a drink, right, but I'm aspiring to have
that kind of hang this summer or it's just it's
just random spontaneous. If you're free, you're free, come grab
a drink, come to the park, come hang out. I
think that's like that, just like that spontaneity that makes
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life so fun. Like, oh you know, I got to
see my friend today and it was lovely. Yeah, we
got to hang out and it wasn't planned. It wasn't
someone's birthday. I feel like the older we get, the
more it's about the birthday gatherings, the holidays, which is great,
but like all that in between time is so important,
and so that's something I'm like trying to orchestrate as
the planner of my friend group.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I love that. Yeah, I love Please include me in
the impromptu hang Yes, I will invite you. It just
might be there.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
She's like, I might be available.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
She just might attend. But yeah, expectation versus reality. I
think thirties are fabulous. I'm having a wonderful time. I'm
like continuing to learn and grow as a person and
just figuring things out. Continue. And that's part of it too,
is like it's not all figured out by the time
you're thirty. No, it's a continuous process. It never ends.
(34:56):
It never ends.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
It's also never too late to pivot. No, I've never
been less afraid to not have a plan. And I'm
such a planner. But it's like, ooh, sometimes we pivot,
And I agree, not having you're not going to have
everything figured out by the time you're thirty.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
No.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I also wasn't afraid to turn thirty. I feel like
with the I mean, we talked about positive representations right
of like being you're thirty and being a young woman,
or just being a woman in your thirties. But I
feel like, you know, the culture, pop culture at least
has had these representations of like being afraid to turn thirty, right.
I was thinking about, you know, in the series Friends,
(35:34):
when we start, everyone's in their twenties. Yeah, at least
the characters are. And so there's an episode about everyone
turning thirty and they're all miserable, like it's horrible, their
life is over. They didn't do everything they thought they
were going to do by the time they were thirty,
and that's like the whole point of the episode. I
didn't feel afraid to turn thirty. I felt like, I'm
ready to turn thirty. I'm ready to put these twenties
(35:55):
behind me. Let's see what happens. Thirties have been rough,
let me say, but there's also been a lot of
like beautiful things, lots of growth, lots of lovely, wonderful things.
It's still life. It's still challenging. I think whatever decade
you're in and we're still young. That is something I've
been telling myself is young. I'm sorry, y'all, we have
(36:15):
got to let go of this like Signora mentality. I'm
so old. Yes to Senora, No, get out, get out,
do something, do everything, do everything. We're so young.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yes. My mom is in her sixties and she's still dance.
My mom's a professional dancer. She still performs. She still dances. Yes,
And she's in rehearsal every week, and she's performing every week.
And it's like hard work. It's very physical. It's like
very exhausting work. But she's an incredible shape. My mom
has so much energy.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Your mom has a lot of stamina. Your mom also
likes to go out, like with her friends, like they
like to go dancing. Yeah, like little events.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
They go out for their little margarita, they go out
for their little brunches. They have like their spots like
to go to. For a while, my mom was hosting
this Mesa and Mimosa's event where she would like her
and her friends would pick a different church and go
to Mass and then get Mimosa's afterwards. They're constantly out.
If anything, my mom lives more of a sex in
the city life than I ever have truly, truly yes,
(37:18):
and they're getting they get together, they talk about their
husbands and their ex husbands and their next husbands. You know,
for them, it is fabulous, so she to me. Even
sometimes when I'm with my mom, I feel like I'm
the less energetic one. Yes, you know, and so she is.
This just reminder that like youth.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
And energy is, it's a mindset.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
It's a mindset and that can carry with you even
into your sixties and seventies.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I love that. That's a great, great place to pause. Yes, yes,
we're still young. We will continue to be young.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
We will forever young for every young.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Let's go grab a cocktail. Thank you for listening to
another episode of lok A Radio. We will catch you
next time, Bessitos. Loka to A Radio is executive produced
by Viosa Fem and Mala Munios.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Stephanie Franco is our producer.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Story editing by Me viosa.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Creative direction by Me Mala.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
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Speaker 1 (38:23):
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Speaker 2 (38:28):
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Speaker 1 (38:31):
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