Lots to Say: NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport

The Patriots hire Mike Vrabel as their new head coach.  Matt tells stories of being Mike's teammate and what Patriots fans can expect next season. The Cowboys have interest in Deion Sanders and Bobby gives his first hand experience of working with Prime Time. Matt wonders how Deion gets along with Jerry Jones as well as an NFL locker room. NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport talks about who the Jets, Bears, and Jaguars are considering.  What does the future look like for QBs Sam Darnold, Kirk Cousins, and Aaron Rodgers? Plus, how will Bobby and Matt combat mysterious drones flying over their homes?

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is
a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts. We got lots,
just say, we got lots to say?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
What Becker here and we hope you say because.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
We got lost? Just say, yeah we got lost.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Just say here's.

Speaker 5 (00:31):
Bobby that.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Ian rapport coming up.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'd like to start because Matt I was talking about
you today on NFL Network.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
I bet that went really well, Like who like you
did when you first heard my name, You're like, was
that the guy in New England? That? Well, that is true.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I didn't say who I was like the guy in
New England.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Not need more than that one.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
So you know what's odd is I wouldn't define you
as a I can now that we spend a little
more time together. I can see you're a bit quirky.
But people that know you go, he's a.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Quirky Guyney, What does that even mean? I don't know.
I kind of take it as disrespectful. Time I have
been called and the most recent comment was by Todd Blackledge.
We were on the road and he's like, I made
a joke and he goes, You're just a weird guy.
I was like, weird I get weird a lot more
more than quirky. Weird feels a little bit more, you know,
take me down a notch. It just puts you in

(01:23):
a different category.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Weird feels like weird people do bad things. Yes, quirky
people just unpredictable. But I just got off a call
and with one of the producers and they were like, oh,
Matt Castle, we like me because you've done Good Morning
Football before, right, yes, And they were like, he's a
quirky guy. And that was just in my head, and
so I did say, yeah, it's quirky guy, but that
just no, that's where that came from, because I wouldn't

(01:45):
have called you quirky.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
I don't use that word. But here's what I said.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Here's what I said about Matt a little bit ago
on Good Morning Football on NFL Network, that Castle, who
is like the quirkiest dude.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
I love this dude.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
It's you know, I remember him when Brady goes down
and she and wins eleven games, and so I didn't
really know him, and he lives in Nashville, and so
we start to friends and I feel like God had
two buckets, okay, and there were the two buckets, and
he was supposed to put equal amount in each looks athleticism, height,
intelligence like you and Matt's bucket, and then remember there

(02:20):
was just a little bit for me. So that's the
annoying part about that, because like, dude played college baseball
because he was born in college. So it's really fun
Matt Castle relationship. He's a great dude, but he just
was given too many talents. And I'm a little jealous, man,
is any better?

Speaker 3 (02:40):
You just filled my cup for the day, maybe for
the week, maybe for the month. He didn't need to
be filled. As my point, you haven't all man. I'm
going to go home and record that and just put
that on repeat for my family so that they know
that's like, guys, this is the type of individual that's
your father, your husband. I'm here for you now. You
just need to see these same talents in me.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
What I'll do with my wife sometimes is that. And
I'm sure you can speak on this too. Like anything
that my wife really loved about me surface level when
we met, she didn't find.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
As appealing anymore. Like she just think I was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yes, and I through my career have been celebrated by
great jobs monetary rewards for being funny or being compelling,
can't make her laugh or anything right, Like she already
knows I'm going. She doesn't like if I get any
laugh at all, I point out her, like, ah, like
it's such a ah. And so there are times when
we'll go out and if we're with other people, other couples,

(03:38):
and I'm just crushing it at dinner, yes, of course
you're just I'm just like, and they're laughing so hard
because they're not around this all the time. Not that
this is the greatest and funniest ever, but I'm pretty good.
And so we're there and we'll go home and I'll be.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Like, see, I am funny. See do you see you
see that? Yes?

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Like that's that's what you don't even respect anymore.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
That's me. I get the honey, they're laughing at you,
they're not laughing with you. And I'm like, wait a second,
that's all same, the fact that they're laughing, like I'm
enjoying that aspect of it. She's like, no, you need
to take it down a notch. What were you like
in the locker room? What do you think people said
about you as a locker room guy when you weren't
around the same stuff. I mean, everybody in the locker

(04:19):
room knows my real personality because I like to have
fun and build relationships and mess around and prank people
and do this, that and the other. Now, when it
was time to get serious, I had an alter ego
that they called creepy Matt before like the game where
I'd go around get real serious and focus and stuff.
But in the locker room, I mean, I'm all about
making fun of people and doing this. But that was

(04:40):
the way that I would show my love. And that's
kind of what the locker room is. It's the only
place that you can go into with fifty plus dudes
and make fun of somebody and critique somebody in a
way that you could never say that stuff in public,
and everybody kind of just goes with the flow and
gives it right back. And I just I love that

(05:00):
aspect of the locker room and the dynamics. It's just
so interesting when you go in there. And that's one
of the components that I missed the most about playing
is just those interpersonal relationships that you have. And you know,
I've played with so many guys over the years that
are just the same way, and so yeah, I would
say that they define me as a guy that was
pretty loose, like to have fun, would work hard, there's

(05:22):
no doubt about that. But at the same time, when
it was time to have fun and enjoy ourselves, I
tried to make everybody enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Would you ever give the speech pre.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, you know not. When I was younger,
obviously you had guys like Teddy Bruski and Junior Sayhowe.
I mean, he could give a sermon where you're sitting
there and you're like, you'll run through the wall for
this guy. But as I went to Kansas City, became
a team captain and stuff like that, there was a
lot of times that, you know, you take take the

(05:52):
lead as a leader on the team and you go
up there and I'd give a good raw ros speech
and try to fire these guys up. You know, sometimes
it feels, you know, a little forced where you're just like,
we know what we got to do, let's just go
out and execute. Other times it's like we need to
pick me up. Like there was a time in Kansas
City where we were about to go to playoffs. We
lost the last game of the year and really My

(06:14):
message to the team was, guys, that was regular season.
It's about to really start now in playoffs. And so
I felt like we needed that because everybody's reading the
press and this, that and the other. He's not playing
great at the end of the year. But we did
go out and get beat But nonetheless, it's about trying
to build that momentum and get guys to believe and

(06:34):
understand we're a good football team. Now we got to
go out and prove it. And sometimes it's just little
things because you can say all the speeches that you want,
when you step in between those white lines, it's all
about execution and going out and crushing your game plan.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Why do you think a guy like Justin Herbert this
past week did not want the cameras there when he
was talking to the team, because that was the request,
no cameras as I give the pregame speech.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah, well, there's some guys that you know, if there's
a camera around, they're going to run right to it. Right.
Ray Lewis loved having a camera there for his speeches.
I mean, he's another guy that has legendary speeches and
you can watch them. And then there's other guys that Hey,
it's not about somebody else hearing what I have to
say to my teammates, because this is a big moment

(07:17):
for us, and I want to have this very intimate
moment with my team and tell them what I feel.
And you don't know what came out of those speeches,
but there's just guys that take it a little have
a different approach to that pregame speech. And it's more
about the guys in the locker room than it is
about everybody else in the world hearing what you have

(07:37):
to say before a game.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
From what I know about Justin Herbert, you know, not
the biggest raw raw guy, right, and you know we
went and spent some time.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
With the Chargers as well.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
It seems like a pretty quiet guy, hard worker, but
pretty quiet guy. Were there those guys when you played
that led by example that did not say much at all.
You just looked at them instead of to them and
saw what they were doing instead of what they were saying.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
There's definitely those leaders. And I'll use one example, and
he was a tremendous leader when I first got there
to Tennessee. Here, Marcus Mariota was going into a second year. Now,
his background, how he was raised, humble, background, quiet, but
he was a guy that nobody would outwork him. We'd
go out for the run test and there was always

(08:24):
like the offensive lineman down here the mids and the
quarterbacks got to run with the mids, and there was
the skills, and each one of those groups had to
get progressively quicker as you'd run the test. Marcus would
always go down and run with the skills and beat
all those guys. He was one of those guys, so
he did it by example. He was the first guy
in the building, last guy out. I just loved his work,

(08:46):
ethic and who he was as a person, and he
was humble, And my biggest message to him going into
the second year is, you know, there's times where you
got to show a little bit of dog from a
vocal standpoint, and you don't always have to do it
on the field where you're mf and somebody like Tom
would get after Wes Welker, but he knew that he
could do that to a place like that. Well, you

(09:07):
go to Randy Moss. Tom would talk to him at
the locker after practice, so his leadership was a little different.
But they have to be able to hear your voice
at times, and I said, there's different ways. Like I said,
there's on the field stuff, but then some of the
biggest components are going into the film room and sitting
down with just your guys and saying, hey, I need
you to get your depth on the sixteen yard route.

(09:27):
It's just another way to lead and be vocal, even
if you're not comfortable always doing it in front of
the team.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Not asking for names. It does feel like though, that
is a cliche that everybody uses. First one in, last
one out.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
Yeah, I love that first one in, last one out
where there are guys star guys that you're like, man,
they just put in very little effort in it.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
If they put in if they were mid one in
mid one out, they'd be they'd be awesome. But instead
they's just like, eh, they don't only care. You know,
can you get to that level with little care?

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Well?

Speaker 3 (10:01):
I think it's their skill set, right. They're so superior
in terms of just their physical abilities that sometimes they
take the little minute details that guys like myself or
when you played in the NFL three years back, it
was quick, but you know what, that's beats the average
that you have to grind right and it's those little

(10:23):
details that keep you around and separate you. Where those
guys are just freaks of nature that can come in.
They show up, they might eat McDonald's for lunch, They
don't take care of their body as much, and they
might take it for granted, but that's who they've been
their entire life. And I'm not Adrian Peterson was one
of the hardest workers, but this guy would eat two
hot dogs and an ice cream before practice and go

(10:43):
run circles around people. He's a freak, right, And so
there's these unicorns out there that And again this is
not talking about Adrian's work ethic or being first one in,
the first one out, but I'm saying there's guys like
that that when the day ends, they're out. They're not
going to put in a little bit extra effort because
they believe that when push comes to shove and Sundays
show up, they're gonna go out there and dominate the

(11:06):
opponent neck that's across from them.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
I was talking about coaches and how a lot of
the best coaches were the we'll call them third string guys,
Division two guys, guys that got the absolute most out
of their ability because they had to get the absolute
most out by learning every detail and every trick of
the business, every route, other people's routes, other positions, to

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have every advantage that way because they did not have
all the intangibles right right, And so where that translates
into the next level. Now all of a sudden, you're
a coach, and you've been doing that for ten years
to try to get as high as you can as
an athlete. But now all of those habits, all that
discipline of learning, of understanding things on a second and

(11:53):
third level. Now you've played enough ball to understand the
ball and the culture. But now you get to be
a great coach because of all the extra which guys
like Michael Jordan and you can go through some of
the really a play players that didn't turn into good
coaches because they were such great athletes. They never really
had to learn the soup called the super strategy of

(12:14):
it right because they physically were so gifted. It's not
that they pushed against it, it's that they never had
to right.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
And then they also never had to be taught certain
mechanics in the fundamental aspect because it just came naturally
to them, like there's natural throwers of the football. There's
other guys that work continuously year and year out on footwork,
on fundamentals, on arm angle, on you know your hips
and what it does from the biomechanics of the body

(12:44):
that they're just not natural. Where there's other guys that
just go out there effortlessly and every time. And I
hate guys like that, Like Carson Palmer was one of
those guys. Matt Safford was one of those guys where
the ball just would come out of their hand and
I'm sitting there going, eugh, do I have to take
this next reup right now? Like just it would make
you jealous and a little bit frustrated, where I had
to grind and be like, okay, well I did that

(13:05):
ball come out a little bit ugly? Because there's nothing
worse as a quarterback than throwing an ugly football. But
like you're saying, translating that to coaching, coaching is such
a different craft. And so many of these guys that
you see have success in the coaching ranks have start
on special teams. Then they're a tight ends coach. They
might even start on the defensive side of the ball

(13:26):
and come over learn the defensive structure, what the adjustments are,
how they're trying to take certain things away and then
come over the offense inside and become a receivers coach
and then work their way up that way and pay
their dues. But now holistically, in a macro standpoint, they
understand the game from a different perspective and can teach
it from so many multifaceted ways. Let's go to Mike Vraible.

(13:49):
Did you play with them? Yeah, he's my boy, not
only as a.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Player, go player first before we talk about anything else.
What was he like to have on the team. What
was he like in the locker room?

Speaker 3 (13:57):
He was a dog. He was excuse my language, but
he was a dick at times. I mean, he really
is that guy that you respect because you talk about
a guy that grinds. He was that guy. And I
think he had like a third chamber in his heart
because we'd go out after a win, he'd come back
and run circles around people like That's just who he was,
and he loved the game of football. We used to

(14:19):
call him Pop of Rabes or Coach Rabes because we
always knew after he was done playing, we knew that
he was going to go into coaching. He was just
that guy and that mentel game. He loved the game,
and so it was everything from He was obviously a
standout on the defensive side of the ball, won a
bunch of Super Bowls there. But then he would fight
to get on the field and goal line offense because

(14:40):
he wanted to be the tight end and catch touchdowns.
And he caught a bunch of touchdowns, like fourteen touchdowns
in his career or something like that. I actually threw
him one in Kansas City. So then on scout team,
he would go over on the scout team and that's
usually your guys that are practice squad players, probably your backups.
He'd go play safety on scout team and try to
give us looks. But he would also he'd cheat the

(15:01):
system because he'd he was so knowledgeable in a game.
He would see that three by one set and it
would be so frustrating because you know on the cards
it's showing, you know, cover two, you're supposed to be here,
and most of these guys are like robots. Okay, coach
told me he wants me here and you're just trying
to give a look. Well, he'd cheat it and he'd
know that, Okay, we've got the slot going vertical, I'm

(15:22):
going to cheat down and try to steal this, and
so he'd do that constantly and then be talking smack.
He's you know those guys, particularly in baseball, the guys
that are out in the stands, and they can talk
like the best trash because they're educated, and then just
will get underneath your skin. His mouth never stopped, and
he would talk so much trash to Belichick, to Brady

(15:44):
and it was just this ongoing feud and it was awesome.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
When he became coach in Tennessee. Were you there when
he was there or did you miss him?

Speaker 3 (15:53):
This is a funny story. So we were actually traded
to Kansas City together, so we played a year before then.
So then he went into coaching, went to Ohio State,
spent some time in Houston, became the head coach. I
was the backup quarterback here and so it's literally the
off season. I'm like, oh my boy. And he had
come out the year before, stayed with me in Tennessee,
like we're close family, family units, and so then all

(16:18):
of a sudden, I get a call one day in
the off season. It's the GM John Robinson, Hey, I
want to talk to you. And I was like, gosh,
this is strange. I've been up at the facility working
out next to his son Carter all these things, and
I go in and they decided to go. They said
they were going to go younger this and here. It
wasn't even Braves that did it, and that pissed me
off because he's my boy. So they released me and

(16:40):
I was like, I sat there. I was like, what
the hell just happened? So I grab a few things,
said goodbye to this. Few people, got in my car,
jump on the sixty five rock, hits my window, splinters
my window. Great day altogether. And then I get a
call from Brady's like where'd you go? I wanted to
talk to you. I was like, well, then you should
have done it. I was just hot. I wrote them
licked scathing text messages later that night. I hope a

(17:03):
red Ant's get in your bed and rip all your
back hair out like it just got after him. But
I mean, it's one of those things that decision wise,
you got to make decisions based on organization. And I
understand I was year fourteen. I was probably getting paid
more so than what they could go with a youthful
quarterback and go that direction. But that one's stung a
little bit. But you know what, you have to understand.

(17:25):
That's the nature of the beast.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
He's going to New England. Yep, what's he going to
do in New England.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
I'm excited, man, I really am. I mean to think
about the career he had in New England. But he's
a guy that he walks into the building and he
already has respected. He doesn't have to demand it. He
has respect as a player, as a coach that's been
successful here in Tennessee. But he's also somebody that understands
the player and the mentality and what you have to do.

(17:51):
He's going to be a guy that's going to push you,
make you accountable, make you earn it. As he said
in his press conference yesterday, he said, look, everybody starts
with a clean slate and you've got to earn it,
and each day you've got to earn it. But he's
going to hold these guys accountable on a day to
day basis. He's got a great vision in understanding. I'm
interested to look at the dynamics of they're still keeping

(18:12):
Elliott wolf On as like a player personnel guy. But
how much ability did they give him to kind of
make big decisions because they've got the number four overall pick,
they've got one hundred and thirty million in cap space.
I think that the only reason that he would have
said yes as quickly as possible was that they said

(18:32):
they're going to give him that type of leverage. Now
they'll be collaboration by the same time, he'll be the
alpha in the room. Do you have Josh McDaniels and
OC loved him, loved Josh. Yes, I had him in
my first four years.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Okay, I'll speak openly and honestly never met him, but
I've met people who say the opposite, Right, Well, what
about his personality make people love or not love him?
Because a strong personality will do.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
That, right, You know? Josh? When I got there, it
was his first year as OROC and quarterback coach. He
took over for Charlie Weiss, and so he was a
that was a grinder and he was so knowledgeable of
the defensive side of the ball. He taught me so much.
It was a masterclass. We'd come in the second offseason
I was there, and you get into certain stacks, bunches,

(19:16):
and he's talking about all the different adjustments and quiz
me would take me out on the field, go through
two minute mechanics of signals, how we're going to call cadence,
what we want to adjust to if they're all of
a sudden bringing pressure, you know. So all these little
details of the game that are so important to be successful.
So I had a great relationship with him, and then
the year I took over for Brady, he was my
biggest advocate and so I always respect him love him

(19:40):
for that. Now, the thing that happened was when he
went to the Broncos and when he got his second
shot at the Raiders. Everybody that I've talked to have said, well,
there's a transition there. And there is a transition when
you're the offensive coordinator and you're kind of behind the
scenes call and plays, and that's who you have to be.

(20:01):
You're leading that one group of men right in the
offensive side of the ball. When you take over an organization
as the head coach, your messaging has to be clear
to everybody. And I think it's difficult sometimes when you
come from a Belichick style background, where he has full
control and he's got his hand in everything. He's meeting
with the quarterbacks. Certain days, he's meeting with the wide receivers,

(20:23):
he's meeting with the linebackers. That that's what you think,
that's how you think that it's supposed to operate on
a toy day. And I think that that rubs people
the wrong way, and then you fall out of favor
with some of the players, with some of the coaches.
And I really believe that's probably what happened in some cases,

(20:43):
primarily with Denver, not so much with the Raiders because
obviously ownership's a little bit messed up there.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
I've never met someone with a dynamic, strong personality that
is beloved. I mean, my goal is not to be beloved.
My goal is to say and do as I feel.
As long as I'm a point of the leader, which
for the last few years been going pretty good, and
lead my crew, I don't really need them to always
like it.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
I just need them to respect it. That's a one
hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Because no one's ever going to like all the things
all the time. No, but as long as they respect it,
and I bring up I bring him up because I
wonder if he's going to beat the offensive coordinator. I've
heard a couple places that that's who Vrabel would like
to bring with him, right and would that be, in
your opinion, a good move, brilliant move in the best
case scenario.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Best case scenario because you've got a young quarterback. He's
developed young quarterbacks before. He's a brilliant mind as an
offensive coordinator. He knows the area, he lives in the area.
He's not coaching right now. You don't have to buy
out a contract or anything like that. And he's a
guy that will give your offense stability and also really
help Drake may going into this second year because again

(21:55):
it's for that quarterback oc relationship. He doesn't have an
ego when he's in that roommellies. He didn't with me. Now,
he'd hold you accountable and you respect what he has
to say. But he also was collab He's like, what
do you like on third down? What do you like
in the red zone? I want to call things that
you like. And that's the most important thing I'll never forget.
When I first took over, in the two minute drill,
we used to go two by two to three by one,

(22:15):
which means two wide receivers, two wide receivers based on
hash and I said, I'm more comfortable three by one
three by one. I just saw the field better that way.
He's like, no problem, that's exactly what we'll do. Immediately
switch it. And we had success in two minute doing that.
And so those are the type of coaches and things
that you think about for a young player. You have
to allow them to grow as a leader, but at

(22:36):
the same time you have to hear their voice as well,
because sometimes as young football players you just run the
system right. You don't always speak up for what you
believe in. If you don't understand a play, you're like, Okay,
coach said it's going to work, so I'm going to
go out. But it's sometimes it just doesn't feel right,
and so you're like, let's make this adjustment or allow
him to feel comfortable speaking with you to say I

(22:58):
feel more comfortable with this, and then then you're going
to be probably you're going to execute that play a
lot better than if you're fifty to fifty on it.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Kevin being a big Pats fan, massive diehard, Oh yeah right.
Hearing him say all of that, I don't know get
like a little half half ut.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Yeah, just a little bit, Yeah, a little bit, just
so you can see a little something. But yeah, yeah,
absolutely absolutely. I mean we talked about it earlier this
week Vrabel. I love that and McDaniels bring him back.
I'm all for it, man. And then Matt fires me
up even more because obviously he worked with him, so
I love it.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Get him on board.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, I want to talk about Deon Sanders for a second.
And so here's my story with Dion. It was probably
seven years ago at this point, and I get called
to Los Angeles. This is before my television career had
started to have any success.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
It was before I did four years on Idol, before
I did Bear Giryls, before any of this stuff.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
And so they call me out because I've been doing
a little here and there, just like begging for work.
Like I was secretly flying out to California telling people
that I was in town. Could they meet and if
they could, I would just fly out there and meet them,
like iould just hustle, like, Hey, I'm going to be
here on Friday afternoon, any chance you want to get together?

Speaker 3 (24:27):
You know?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
And yeah, and I don't drink, but I'd be like,
have a drink and so they'd be like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Sure, they set the meeting.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Then I'd fly out there right, and I was going
back and forth and I'd met some really great people.
And the crazy thing about Hollywood, and I'm not Hollywood
at all, but they say a bunch of crap they
don't mean. Generally, it's culture. That's the culture that they say,
a bunch of crap that they don't mean. But I
did meet somebody that was really nice, never believed anything

(24:54):
anybody said, but she was like, Hey, we're doing this.
This basically a cattle call for people because we're doing
a new daytime daytime talk show on ABC. And she's
like you should come out and be one of the
people to try for it. And I'm thinking, well, that's cool.
I wonder if it's real. And then not only that,
it's probably gonna be like I'm gonnahow up fifteen twenty
other people that look like me and then more famous

(25:14):
than me, better, like all the things that I think.
I'm wildly insecure. And so I'm like, Okay, we'll see
what happens. So then I get a call it's like, hey,
it's in two weeks. We'd love for you to come.
Here's where it is, And so I go and there's
like one hundred and fifty people.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Well, there wasn't forty, there was one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
I was thinking, like worst case scenario fifteen. There's like
one hundred and fifty to two hundred people there, and
it's everyone from the girl that played Rudy Huxtable, Lance Bass.
It's oh my god, it's like all of the me
tier of celebrity, right, not really famous.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
But were you intimidated at all?

Speaker 2 (25:49):
I was like, I thought there'd be like fifty. No,
I have no confidence, so especially at that, I have
no confidence. Come on, outwardly, I am confident. Inwardly, I'm
still wildly insecure, and so I'm like, what even is this?

Speaker 3 (26:02):
So they sit you at.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
A table with three other randoms, housewife of newsper and
they're like, talk about this.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Now I'm confident because I'm a Swiss army knife. Because
I've had to develop those skills. I covered fashion for
E on the Red Carpet. I did you really yeah,
like two years ago such as well, I've had to
learn it. I can do sports, I can do music,
I can do come but it's all because I don't
feel like, I have an absolute skill. So I've learned

(26:31):
all these like I'm like Verbel basically, I'm I'm so
I want to learn everything, and so I'm crushing to
where it's like a survivor type thing where some people
they just send home and they continue not to send
me home. Yeah, And so at the end of the day,
there's like six people left and I'm like, they're six,
I'm only four for the show. I got this job.
This is like just odds are I'm going to be

(26:52):
the host of the day Times like me and julian
A Ransick and some other And so they come and
they go, okay, you six, You're moving to tomorrow for
the real call.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
And I'm like, oh, I just did double a baseball.
That wasn't that wasn't even the pro No, you started,
you started rookie ball, single a. Now we're at double
it feeling great? Yes, I thought I had just got
the show.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
And so the next day hard hitters actual famous people
that have credentials and news and like famous writers.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Wow, it's famous, right, And so I'm there and how
many people the second day eighty eighty eighty Oh my god,
I would think eighty seventy five to eighty.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
And also they weren't calling them all in at once
because they actually were famous were with us that were
fake famous.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
They could just be like, yeah, just show up and
just wait.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
And we did like the little you know, we were
just happy to have a shot. Yeah, so I get
I stayed the second day and you know, seventy seventy
five people and the same thing. Go to the table talk.
It doesn't matter what they bring up, if it's politics
or sports or pop culture. I'm in. I'm in because

(28:03):
I read a lot to keep up. I have a
lot of personal like stories for my life that relates
and I'm crushing it again. Yeah, and so it's down
to like twenty or so, and that they're cutting people
as it goes, So will they just come up and
like tap the short when it's over? They would see
you in the hallway. It was very much real rumble.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
And basically, hey, thanks for coming.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
That's exactly what you would see people being told thanks
for coming, and be pissed and be and just be
like but I guess in that culture you're told no
to a lot of auditions. It's the time I wasn't doing.
I want there were no auditions, that nobody cared enough,
and so there's like twenty left. They say, go to lunch,
and I go to lunch and I freaking see I
never met him before.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
I see Dean Sanders sitting at a table and.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I'm like, oh my god, this is like one of
the greats of my lifetime. Yeah, is absolute stud in
in every way, because it was not only football, not
only baseball. I had his tape that must be the money, Yes,
I had.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
That was the worst video of all us.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
The guy and he's sitting at this table. There's really
nowhere else to sit. It's very much a Forrest Gump scene.
Whenever he can't sit here, I can't see. I'm looking
around and I don't fit in any of the clicks.
And Dion looks up and goes, hey, young man, I
wht you comes sit over here? And I'm like looking
behind me, because the worst is when someone waves and
you wave back and you realize that somebody behind it.
Oh god, and you like fix your hair. Instead, there

(29:26):
was nobody behind me. I'm like, he goes, yeah, come
sit down. I got an open seat. I'm sitting next
to Dion Sanders and I'm talking with and he's right,
the nicest guy, right, And I'm just thinking to myself,
I got to remember all this. My friends aren't going
to believe me that I'm sitting next to Dion Sanders
freaking prime time and he's so kind and he again
he allowed Jenny or Forrest to sit on the bus,
and so I sit on the bus and I'm with
and we have a launch.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
We go to the next thing.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Eventually we get teamed together because they're just putting in chemistry,
checking people and so at this time there's probably fourteen
or fifteen people left, and Dion and I get on
a panel together and they tell the other two people
to leave it till Danaia to stay.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Two other people coming. They told them to leave.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Deona to say and Dian and I look at you
and them like, hey, I think they like us together,
and he's like, I think you're right.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
So we stay. We finished the day, we get the show. Wow.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
So it's me Deon Sanders and they have another more
newsy person because for us it was like be funny,
know what's happening in current events, have life stories, but
be like well rounded and the other they had like
a news person to be that. And so for like

(30:34):
six weeks, I spent six hours a day with him
every day.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Wow, So you have a genuine relationship with him.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
He is when people would speak ill of him and
they would be like I wanted to crawl through a
screen or through the internet and punch them in the
nose like that dude, as real as caring as everything
that he does for attention to be big and attention seeking.

(31:03):
He does it to be big in attention seeking, like
he knows what he's doing, so smart. So we get
to the pilot finally, because we work on this forever
ever ever, we get to the pilot.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
We spent a lot of time together.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
We're legitimately friends at this point, and the pilot does
not get picked up.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
So and that's the name of the game, right, that's yeah,
that's what it is. And so there had been a
change also in upper management and they decided they don't
want to go with the show. Fine, but Dean was
like the guy and I'd written my first book, and
I'd written a story about how I would run through
a wall for certain people that I've met in life,

(31:42):
people that wouldn't even ask me to run through a wall.
But I would do it, and he was one of them.
Just being around the guy because everything is sincere and
then when he's kidding, you know he's kidding. But there
wasn't a part of him that ever seemed like it
was disingenuous. And I was like, I would run through
wall deone post on his Instagram without me asking a

(32:02):
picture of him reading my book on his Instagram feed. Wow,
to just go like, you guys would check out this book, Like,
so he's that dude?

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Right to me?

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Is that he's That's the relationship that I had with him.
I went back and I played in this last year
Major League Baseball celebrity Softball game and he was my
coach and we ended up winning the game.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
I won the MVP of the whole game. It was awesome.
Do you really Yeah, he hit some bombs.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, I hit inside the park homer. Then I won
hop defence for a triple, made the diving plays, but
he was the coat. It was so I won the MVP,
the big title belt, whatever, and so we win the game.
What was cool was he was so competitive. Yeah, he
would have killed a player on the other team. It
was all like celebrities and fake celebrities, right, he would
have killed them. Like I saw for the first time though,

(32:49):
that in him. Yeah, the competitiveness that we don't lose, right,
And the rule was in that game, you played an
inning and then you moved a position and then you
set out it. Because there were like thirteen people. After
the first inning, he told the whole team, Bobby is
not leaving the mound because I was all over the place.
I was not all over the place making place and
he was like, and he set us up and we

(33:10):
won the game. But I saw I the tiger and
that dude, and I didn't get to see it when
I was becoming friends with him, right, I saw I
the tiger and that guy because it didn't matter if
it was because when I knew him, he was coaching
his kids high school football team. It was before he
went to Jackson State. Now they're rumoring him possibly as
coach of the Cowboys. God, I hope he gets that job.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
You know. It's interesting because he's got that gravitational pull,
right that people just respond to. And as you said,
it's interesting because a lot of people you hate him,
you love him because a lot of the things that
he does or puts out on social media or just
the different areas in which is different than everything that
they've seen. In a traditional sense, it's intentional why he

(33:53):
went to Colorado. Colorado won one game prior to him
getting there. They had nothing. They had nothing, So what
does he have to do. He has to create buzz.
He has to create excitement for the program. So he
had to go out and be primetime and promote. He's
promoting Colorado, but he's also had to promote himself a
little bit because that's what brought the notoriety. That's why

(34:13):
in his first year, in the second game game days there,
in the third game game days there, that everybody was excited.
And so he understands the dynamics of what culture is
and how to bring attention back to his team. Now,
it'll be interesting because you look at one of the
most story franchises in all of NFL history and the

(34:35):
dynamics of the power struggle there with Jerry Jones and
how that all works. But I think he clearly understands
that he played for Jerry Jones, and I would I
think it would be fascinating if he went to the Cowboys,
because let's be honest, they don't lack talent. You need
pieces here and there. But when you have Micah Parsons

(34:57):
and you have Dak Prescott and you have Ceedee Lamb,
a true number one that you can go out and
compete on Sundays immediately. He's one of of those guys
also that he'll put together a great staff. He's got
relationships with everybody, and as you said, with his personality
and who he is as a person, if you've ever
met him on a different level outside of what you

(35:18):
just see in the public eye, you love the guy
and want to be with him and want to be
on a staff and want to have success for him.
So he'll be able to put together a great staff.
I think it would be fun to watch him as
back on the Dallas Cowboys sideline and with that dynamic. Now,
whether or not it works, it's complicated and it's difficult

(35:41):
to win in the NFL. We all know that, but
that franchise, being who it is and the players that
they have, could be really fun for just the league
in general next year.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
If Dion were to come on, and we're recording this
late Wednesdays or late Tuesdays, so this will be Updnesday.
If something happens and he's not the coach in the
next ten hours.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
That's on us.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
But there would have to be an understanding of that.
Jerry Jones has to release that a bit right down
would not take that job otherwise, well.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
I think when you look at that organization, when you
look at Jerry Jones, at some point, you have to
evaluate yourself and say, we haven't won a super Bowl
since the ninety six when I was growing up and
I loved watching the Super Bowl. But you have to
empower your head coach to be seen as the figurehead
that guys can't step over that boundary and go over

(36:29):
your head. He has to be able to control the team.
And I was there for two seasons and I saw
it firsthand. It's difficult. When you come into the locker
room after a game and the first person that talks
to you is Jerry Jones. That's a different dynamic that
I'd never seen anywhere else. It's not the head coach
who's the guy that's leading your team from inside out.

(36:52):
It's Jerry Jones because it's his team and everybody understands that.
But there's got to be some kind of give and
take at some point for whoever comes on board next,
because otherwise it'll be another hit and miss and a
few years later we need to make a change because
we're gonna run it my way or the highway. Well,

(37:13):
it just doesn't work like that, and it hasn't over
and over and over and over and over again.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
With some really qualified guys, right. I think Robert draft
same way.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Oh don't. I mean, these guys are getting.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Older, and if you get to your eighties and you're
like itching for another one, right, sometimes you just gotta
do stuff different.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah, And I think that's why Craft when they evaluate
this season. And I like Gerard Mayo. I think he's
a great guy. He kind of got a raw deal.
He came into this thing without the number four draft pick,
coming up in a franchise quarterback and one hundred and thirty.
Mike Rabel's in a much better position right now to
succeed than what he was. But when he looked at

(37:52):
it and he said, as you're saying, that clock's ticking.
And he'd been through the glory years, the first dynasty,
the second dynasty.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
With Jerry Though it's funny because he had the glory
years too, not Laurier's dynasty.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
But they both had that, right, they both had that.
But Jerry's is an nineties Yeah, that's I mean, Craft
is coming off his latest super Bowl is what twenty nineteen,
So then you lose your franchise quarterback and things have
gone downhill for that organization since. And I think the
sense of urgency just to make that change now, as
hard as it is, because I know he had a
great relationship with Mayo, he said, look, this is the

(38:25):
time to jump on it. We've got our guy Mike
Rabel sitting here Hall of Famer and our Patriots Hall
of Fame that can come in study the ship and
maybe give us another opportunity when I'm still here to
experience it.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
I am very biased towards Deon Sanders because I love
him as a person, but also when looking at his
record coaching, meaning he's been at first of all, he's
played at a very high level, and then he's also
coached at all the levels. Right, He's coached high school,
he's coached college, HBCU, he's coached Colorado, and he's done

(39:01):
well at every stop, even if it doesn't work, even
if it went miserably, I think this is the opportunity
to take a humongous flyer, even though it's not that
much of a flyer. If he didn't have that big
of a personality, I don't think people would be like,
I don't know, this sounds crazy. If you would have

(39:21):
been like, here's a person and just hear his stats.
First of all, here's playing stats, and here's his coaching stats,
and here's where he's been across, you would go this
seems like not that outlandish of an idea. This seems
like a coach that's won at every level and we
feel good about it. But because he's such a big personality,
even if it goes horribly, I think it's the right decision.
Because you want things to change, you got to do

(39:42):
things different, and I think that would be a deon
Sanders higher right.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
The other thing that I'd push back on a little
bit is Dion himself and some of the antics and
some of the things that he does in the sermons
that he delivers to the team. The dynamics of a
professional locker room are a little bit different. These are
grown men, people that have kids and wives and big personalities,
big egos as well. The dominant nature in which he

(40:07):
controls a locker room in college is going to be
much different than I believe the interactions in the dominant
nature in which he has over the players. And now
it's about messaging, it's about mindset, but there are going
to be subtle things that he probably clearly understands that
he's going to have to change about how he approaches

(40:27):
maybe the day to day versus what he's done at Colorado,
in the hype machine that he's created behind Colorado.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
And what I would say to that is different than
like a Jim Tressel going to coach an NFL team,
where that will absolutely be something that he has to know,
acknowledge and learn from. Deanna has been in those locker
rooms forever and know, like you said.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Knows that dynamic.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
I don't think he would go in even talking to
the players the same way he would talk to a
nineteen year old, because he was also that thirty one
year old.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
So I'm excited for I'm not so much cowboys fan.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
All my friends are great cowboys that they love the Cowboys,
But I hope he gets the job.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
If not, like, what the crap are they going to do?
I have no idea how many want to be if
it were Sark, that could be right down the road.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
I don't want to pay relocation fees, so.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Just just make a quick drive over here. We're gonna
not gonna send a plane. Why would we do that? Exactly?

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Okay, coming up in wrap reports back in a second.
As far as insiders go, this guy's the best. You

(41:43):
can see him on NFL network to follow him at.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Rap sheet R A P S H E e. T.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
He is the guy on the phone, He is the
guy that knows here.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
He is in rappaport he And there's a lot of
stuff going on, obviously with the coaching searches right now.
Mike Rabel gets hired by the Patriots, Mike McCarthy out
in d We hear a lot of rumors about Tomlin
down with the Steelers. What are you hearing with those organizations?
And what's the latest right now?

Speaker 5 (42:14):
Okay, we'll start with Mike Tomlin. I don't get the
sense he's going anywhere. The coaching world can be crazy.
He was asked about this on Tuesday. Basically, so don't
waste your time, you know, be sort of like picking
against the Chiefs and the playoffs, like until something actually
happens with Mike Tomlin. I will choose to be in
the belief that the Steelers are unbelievably loyal, know they

(42:35):
have a great coach. Tomlin is unbelievably loyal, knows he
has a great organization, and I imagine they will stay together.
The Mike rabel one is really really interesting to me.
It's the only reason you move on from Droyd Maale.
Obviously the season was bad, it was nothing that anybody
in New England wanted. But you know, you bring in

(42:58):
a young coach who you believe is going to be
a leader, to give him only one year. It didn't
make a lot of sense to me unless you had
a sure fire, better option who you know is going
to hit the ground running. Mike vrabel Is. He is
a great coach. He is not for everyone. He will
be hard on a lot of people there. I think

(43:21):
he is going to be extremely demanding and he will
get what he wants eventually, as he showed in Tennessee.
I think they're gonna win, and I think they're gonna
win a lot. They got a good quarterback and I
think he's gonna do a really good job of building
up the middle class of that team and getting everyone
to be like a little bit better, which is really
the thing he did best in Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
You know.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
And then the Dallas thing. You know, I kind of
went about this believing that Mike McCarthy would be back.
That's what sort of made sense. I know, all parties
kind of thought they would be back. The Cowboys tried
to bring him back in a shorter deal. He wanted
some security, but the reality is, like if Dallas wasn't
sure long term about him and he wanted a little

(44:06):
more than they're willing to give, Like what are we doing?
You know, Like what it's like if you're dating someone
and you're like not sure whether or not to move in,
Like you should probably not be dating that person, right,
Like this shouldn't be a question. So I thought they
did the right thing in moving on. I'm curious to
see what happens next for all parties.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Do the Bears and the Jets now, Well, that's.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
A little more challenging because they've all interviewed a lot
of people, and so people have been asking me for
the last week and a half, like, you know, who
do you see as the front runner for the Jets?
And it's like, well, when you interview fifteen people, you know,
if you have a front runner, then like why are
you interviewing all these people?

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Right?

Speaker 5 (44:48):
So it's a pretty open search. I mean there's a
couple of candidates I think have maybe better chances than others.
Like I'd say Aaron Glenn and Arthur Smith both have
a really good chance in New York for instance, to
name a couple, I think Cliff Kingsbury has a good
chance in Chicago. I think Mike McCarthy has good chance
in Chicago. Kind of a wild car to be Mike Kafka.

(45:11):
It's just, you know, it's so wide open and expansive,
it's tough to nail down. You know one favorite there?

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Do you of those organizations that you just mentioned, and
then even throw in Jacksonville, what do you think is
the most attractive job in your opinion for any of
these head coaches that are coming out, because obviously the
Jets they're they're are going to just sit there and
you don't know if Aaron Rodgers is coming back. The
pieces in Chicago are very attractive. Jacksonville as well, with
their team, the youth that they have and a quarterback

(45:41):
that obviously has had really high highs, but really low
a lot of lows as well.

Speaker 5 (45:48):
Well, I would say to me, will include the Patriots
in that even though it's already been filled. The only
thing you're really looking for, if if you're a coach
taking over for taking over a job, is can you win?
Like can you win? What's the infrastructure? Like what are
you inheriting? Can you win? And I think most times

(46:09):
during this time of year, you're kind of like, uh, well, yeah,
like I do want a job, but they don't have
a quarterback, or they're in bad salary cap space, or
like they got to rebuild. Like there's actually a surprising
number of places this year where you could go in
and win, Like Chicago has a quarterback, Like do they

(46:29):
need some work? Yeah they do, but they got a guy. Jacksonville,
I believe has a guy. Is Trevor Lawrence going to
be Patrick Mahomes? Probably not, but you know, could he
be starting for a playoff team with some better coaching
like he could and he has been like he has.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Right and divisionally right, it's probably when you look at
Jacksonville and the division that they're in, they can go
in and win.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
Now, well yeah, and like if you look at the roster, like,
they got some pieces. They got three good receivers, they
got a good tight end, they got a good young
offensive line at tatt left tackle, who's they got a
couple of really good pieces off the edge and defense,
they got a good back end. They have a highly
paid corner. They have a really good linebacker who's the
first round pick. I mean, that's a lot of good players, right,

(47:16):
so and then you know so, I think those are
some of the better ones, and a surprising number at Dallas.
It's like if you're the Dallas Cowboys, said coach, it's
a lot okay, Like I can't even It's like almost
nothing else in sports where you're the head coach slash spokesman,
slash Carnival Barker slash you know, frontman, like all of

(47:39):
the things. Just it's like it's the most all encompassing
coach job in sports. I can't compare it to anything else.
But they got Dak Prescott, they got a good offensive
line with some good young pieces. They got some great receivers.
They got Micah Parsons and a couple all pro corners. Like,

(48:00):
they got some dudes, So you can win there. The
toughest one for me, which they eventually end up being.
Be Ben Johnson's shop is Las Vegas, but they have
Tom Brady and that in itself for people who like
to be associated with people who are awesome, it's a
pretty interesting place as well.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Well.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
The Vikings lost to the Rams. Have any say on
what the Vikings do with Sam Donald or.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Did they already know?

Speaker 5 (48:29):
You know, I would say the Lions game was tough,
and if you were wondering whether or not that was
an anomaly, Donald followed it up with the playoff game
last night, so it's like that game alone wasn't anything
but those two games and then it's almost like the

(48:52):
Sam Donald detractor spent the whole season waiting for that,
being like, all right, well, eventually he's going to turn
into Sam Donald, and then when he did, it's like
every Jets fan in the world text bank Yep, I've
seen that guy before, and I'm like, I get it,
Like everyone wants to say, I told you so. I
think a long run in the playoffs would have really
helped him. I don't think it means he's not going

(49:14):
to be able to get a starting job next year,
but it does alter the landscape a little bit like,
if you're Minnesota, are you a little, little, little little
less likely to give him a long term deal? Maybe
you want to give him the franchise tag instead, or
maybe you want to say, you know what, I've seen
the good, I've seen the bad. It's just not enough
and we got a young guy we're just going to roll.

(49:37):
I think it probably at the very least made them
think about, all right, like what really are our options,
rather than like, this is our franchise quarterback, let's move.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Don't you think It's going to be really complicated though,
like why not franchise him for a year? Considering JJ
McCarthy hasn't taken a snap, he's been hurt all year?
How long has Daniel Jones there? Did he just sign
for the rest of this season or did he see
just the year? So they they potentially could bring him back,
but they'd have to give him a deal. Well, but
I just think it's a very complicated situation because if

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you don't bring back Sam Donald as a franchise guy,
then you're basically rolling the dice with a guy JJ
McCarthy that's unproven.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
Yeah, and I would say you can't roll the dice
right like. And I'm not saying here's what I would
say if they decide to not bring back Sam Donald,
I mean that, which is a it's a bold decision,
and they just made it. They just made it with
Kirk Cousins. They said he's good, we want more and
we want to pay less and we're moving on. And

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they did and they got a great performance most of
the season from Sam Donald. And I think and obviously
what Cousins has fallen off the cliff, so I think
that proved to be the right decision. But I would
say this, if they move on from Sam Donald, I
don't think it'll be a gamble. To me, it would
mean they know, right like, and we've seen it, like

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we've seen it across the league where guys that players
and they say this is a guy like, I don't
have any question, Like I remember going to Commander's camp
and they were like, yo, like, we got a guy
like this is we got a guy usually, you know.
And so if the Vikings move on from Donald, I
think will probably know that they got a guy in

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JJ McCarthy and they've already seen it.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Talk about Kirk Cousins, what's he gonna do was he hurt? Like,
do team still see that there's a more of a
ceiling after his Achilles injury.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
You know, the most interesting thing that we'll see or
talk about with Kirk Cousins happened with Aaron Rodgers similar
timeframe Rogers, you know, tours Achilles was kind of most
of the year, also is banged up in his lower half,
had a knee, had a hamstring, had some other stuff.

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And then there were pockets late in the year where
he really looked like the Aaron Rodgers of old, the
second year after the Achilles, And I keep thinking about
that because it's all projection. Nobody knows. You don't know
how Kirk Cousins are going to play, But if you
want to project it out, you could say second year
back from an Achilles, Aaron Rodgers somewhat similar age. Second
half of the year looked a lot better. And maybe

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Kirk Cousins come back from an achilles, second year back similar age,
maybe he's gonna look better. If it's gonna be what
it was with the Falcons this year, the last four
or five games, then I don't know that he gets
a job if it's going to be like it was
the first six games or whatever. Then I think he'll

(52:39):
end up somewhere that doesn't want to spend a lot
of money but wants a viable starter, because remember, if
they cut him, he's going to play for the minimum.
No one is going to eclipse what the Falcons were
paying him. His salary is going to be the minimum.
It is going to be Russell Wilson. So he's going
to be an attractive quarterback signing.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
For some Tennessee Titans. A bet watch is this between
the Baltimore Ratens Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
Actually, yeah, makes sense. They're gonna take a quarterback number one.
They need a placeholder if he's your backup, like who cares?
Who paying him the minute? And like he's a decent
human who will probably help. That would make sense.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Aaron Rodgers, you mentioned them. What's up with him? Where
will he be next year?

Speaker 5 (53:25):
I'd like to know if he's going to play next year.
I imagine there'll be some darkness, some mushrooms or whatever, ayahuasca,
a deep dive into his mental the whole deal to
figure it out. I don't I don't know. Everyone says, like,
you know, he's not gonna want to go out, like this,

(53:46):
but it's like everybody goes out like this. It's always
always ends bad. It's like every relationship that ends, it's like,
but didn't end badly, wouldn't end you know, like he
would play be freaking Tom Brady. You know, I wonder
if it's the end for him. You know, I think
I've said this publicly, but I know some people close

(54:07):
to him who think it's the end. I don't know.
I don't I don't know who signs him and says,
all right, we have our quarterback situation solved, Like how
much do you pay him? Is he a bridge quarterback now?
And like does he at some point get beaten out
by like a younger quarterback and that's kind of weird?
And would he sign knowing that's possible? Like I have

(54:30):
way more questions than answers when it comes to Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Okay, So another interesting game Washington. What they've accomplished this season?
Dan Quinn Jaden Daniels, He's a bona fide dude, right,
He's gonna be the rookie of the year, hands down.
He's had one of the most incredible rookie seasons of anybody.
Do you think that there is a chance that they
could go into Detroit and beat this machine that Detroit is.

Speaker 5 (54:52):
Right now, I mean, they're gonna have to play so well, right,
it's gonna have to play so well, which you know,
the interesting thing about Washington is if they somehow manage
to keep it close, Like let's say they're down seven
in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Okay, you know again.

Speaker 5 (55:09):
They're gonna have to play great. But let's say they're
down seven in the fourth quarter. Everybody on the team
is going to know, hey, we got a chance. We've
been there before, we got that guy, we got a chance.
And that is the really cool thing about having Jade
and Gaiels, Like there's a lot of cool things.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
He is.

Speaker 5 (55:25):
He's awesome, he's like truly cerebral. He's got an absolute cannon.
He's really fun to watch. But the knowing that every
when it gets late and it all goes crazy, he's
going to be the most chill dude on the team.
You got a chance that you just got to get there.
And like the lines are so explosive and like, you know,

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they get a takeaway or two on defense, like they
could you know, I do wonder if the Lion's kind
of run away with this a little better.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Ian Rappaport at rap Sheet. Ian, thank you for the time.
Always appreciate the knowledge and hope you have great rest
of the day.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
Awesome, take care, guys, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Thanks. Do you have drones, giant drones flying.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Over your house?

Speaker 3 (56:23):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
I mean not just regular drone, giant drone.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
They're not normal drones. Like at first, I'm like, am
I just am I hallucinating right now seeing like a
miniplane an airplane at first because of the lights. I
mean literally it looks like it could have an airplane, right,
and they have lights and green lights and all kinds
of stuff, and I'm going, what is going on? I
literally filmed it the other day, one flying over my
house and I'm just like, what is that? And nobody

(56:49):
there's no answers, And if you don't see anything, nobody
says anything. It's gigantic too.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
And again it's shape because they're kind of have a
big X in them. Yes, so what you can think
it's an airplane at the shape of the lights.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
But then how it's moving. It's floating.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
And the one that flew low enough it was like
a little after dusk but not fully dark, and I
was able to really see one. Yeah, because my wife
is the one that pointed them out, because obviously all
those drones in New Jersey and the East Coast, it's like,
oh my god, are the aliens?

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Is it China? Who knows?

Speaker 2 (57:25):
But then I'm just thinking she sees all that on
the news and just thinking she's seeing a drone. I'm like,
that's not a drone. That's not a drone. It's a
freaking drone, and so it's a real drone. I wanted
to shoot it down, I literally because I have guns,
and so I grabbed my twelve gage that I have
under my bed. And my wife's like, what are you doing.
I was like, well, I'm just gonna walk out there
and see how lo it is.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
That would be amazing if you shut that thing down.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
So she goes, can you even do that? You know
we're in a neighborhood, And I said, that's a great point.
I don't know that I was going to, but I
had it in my hand just in case, and so
I google it and you cannot shoot down a drone.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
It was interesting. I read an article about a guy
in Tampa. That guy arrested like he was a seventy
five year old man. He's like, what's this drone doing
over my house? It's floating over my house? And he
shot it down and they came and arrested him. He's like,
what for it was over my house? Like, you can't
shoot down a drone.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
I would think that was my property too, like the
air up to a certain point.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Yeah, isn't this mine all of space too?

Speaker 2 (58:23):
So I didn't shoot it, but I Google, like, what
can you do if a drone's flying over? And they
give you options? One is this is the stupidest option ever.
It says put up a sign. This says no drone
zone because apparently drones will pay attention. There's no chance
a single drones ever going to see that and go like,
you know, we were flying over this house, but let's
let's let's avoid it.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
Yeah, we got to avoid that one. No trespassing, no drones.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Yeah, Jim, there's a no drones sign here. So the
second one was called the cops. Now can you imagine
if I called the cops? Oh my gosh, what they
would say if they came.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Over, Like, we're dealing with some serious stuff over here,
but you want me to come look at the drone
with you.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Or yeah, we got a flying overhouse too.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
You know, what do you want to do?

Speaker 2 (59:01):
The third, and I'm not kidding, says you can launch
launch a counter drone.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Yes, now this is like Battlestar Galacria. Now we got
some tell me you have something brewing here.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
I literally have a drone right over there. Now it
was a little smaller than I thought, but this one
moves fast. Oh yeah, you should get This one moves fast.
It's very agile. And this is a camera. It's got
both a click click camera and a video camera.

Speaker 6 (59:26):
Yes, I can't wait for this, so I'm sending this up.
We should get We should send a fleet, like five
of them up. Dude, I don't know if I can
fly one. You're trying to fly five. Well, we're gonna
have to get you. We're gonna have to bring over
some more people.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
And then we would crashing. You know, we crash them
in each other. Yes, if it's five of us, you
know we're for sure crashing them in each other. I'm
gonna fly this up and try to find out what
exactly that thing is, because again I did think it
would be a little bigger but if you fly over
five hundred feet, that's against the law a drone. But
what's the difference in five hundred and five eighty?

Speaker 3 (59:57):
They're not gonna know. They're not gonna know. Plus, who's
gonna call the cops on you? Nobody? That true.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Maybe the people that know drone zone signs to be
over there and they'll call it on me. The thing
that I worry about with this drone is that drones
can't see at night. That's the problem, and that's why
it's so weird that drones are flying over is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Let's be honest. These are superpowered drive.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yes, so they're looking for something where they're getting either heat, radiation.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Some some kind of activity.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Yes, But I'm going to try to launch this at dusk?

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
What you get there? Laughing over there? Do you know
that you know their flight patterns right now?

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
But my house, that's the pattern.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
They just think it's going to be dusk for sure.
We see them at dusk sometimes. Okay, Like I don't
think I can launch when it's full dark because I
don't know that it will see anything. I will try,
but I think it's gonna if I go to jail,
I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Call you to bel me out. Then you said, I
read it on the internet. I could go. I could
go up and go head to head with this thing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
I'm going to drone. I don't want to say battle yet.
I'm build o recon work first. See what kind of
body armor it has. Anybody that's ever saved the world
had to do it because no one else was doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
True, and you're about to do it, and I'm about
to do it. You're about to find answers.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Yes, So if I have to be the one to
save the world with this drone right here, Although I
did think it'd be a little bigger when I opened
it out of the box.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
I was like, huh yeah, not that intimidating. I don't
know if it's going to be intimidating, But at the
same time, it might give us some answers. And that's
what we're that's all life, that's all we're looking for.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Answers for this, answers for games this weekend. Another episode
coming up this week will have boomerasiasin and Parker McCollum on,
who's big Texans fans, so it must have been a big,
big weekend for him also, and it may be tomorrow.
Tomorrow the next day, we'll go through each of the
games make our picks. We appreciate you guys listening. If
you don't mind, let's say you're hearing this on one
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Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
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Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Go on and start dropping Steff randomly. Has your mom
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Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
To conclude, I said this about the Titans, and I've
been told it was a little too harsh.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Huh. When I want on Good Morning.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Football today, I said this about the Tennessee Titans a.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Little too harsh on the Badger.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
I don't know that I was too harsh. I was
just like I do. I say, hey, I have lots
to say. Yeah, and I was just being honest.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Here we go. The Titans suck, Let's just be honest.
That's why they got the first pick. They're terrible. The
colors look slow.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
It's weird that colors are even slow, but even our
colors look slow. So everything about the Titans is an
absolute disaster. Derrick Henry Goes has a great seat.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
It's all. It's a mess. We have the number one pick.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
I'm sure somehow we're gonna trade the for like a
Babe Ruths from the Red Sox to the Yankees for
like a Broadway play, Like that's.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
What I expect us to do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
We're gonna we're gonna trade our best pick for a
Broadway player or something. So no, it's a disaster and
nobody wants to go to the games because it's cold.
But we're building a stadium and yeah, well that's all
we have to hang a hat on.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Thoughts, Wow, you definitely unloaded as true or frustrated, and
now it's it's true. It's a dumpster fire right now.
I mean not only that you fire your GM after
two seasons. You don't really know who's in power, what
the ownership, you know, the power play at B and
then you look at the team, there's so many different

(01:03:30):
holes that you have to be concerned with, not just
the offensive line, your quarterback position. Defensively, there's holes as well.
So there's a lot, a lot of work to be
done in or for this organization to get back to
where they're at least competitive. And they just look the colors.
I mean, anytime you're the number one pick in the draft,

(01:03:51):
that means you're not in a good place in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Time, unless you're like the Golden State Warriors when Stefan
Clay both got hurt and they lost a bunch of
games that year and had a really great pick.

Speaker 6 (01:04:00):
Right, you know, those guys were coming back, you know.
Yeah's what I'm saying, Like, that's the that's the only
like good part. Don't have those guys going back.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
We don't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
We don't even have football players like Stephan Clay if
they played football.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
All Right, We're done. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
This is executive produced by Kickoff Kevin and shot by
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