Lots to Say: Super Bowl Champ Willie Colon and Grown Man Rules

Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel talk about the heatwave and how poorly swimming headphones work. Did Tom Brady say no to Aaron Rodgers and Sam Darnold with the Raiders?  Brady won a fan competition and Bobby wonders if Tom's level of competitiveness is unhealthy.  Travis Hunter signs his rookie deal with the Jaguars.  Matt explains what will be expected of Hunter in camp.  

Super Bowl Champ Willie Colon comments on Rodgers saying this could be his last year in the NFL.  Colon has played after an achilles injury as well and gives his thoughts on how Rodgers will play with the Steelers.  Bobby asks about Willie's playing days at Hofstra and his transition to the NFL.  Willie reveals the strongest and fastest players he ever played against. Willie takes us inside the very real rivalry between the Steelers and the Ravens.  

"Which age should a grown man stop doing this?"  Bobby and Matt explain things like wearing jerseys, painting your face, bringing a glove to a game, or asking for an autograph.  Bobby and Matt both discuss dealing with adults seeking autographs just to sell them.  Is it ever okay to cry after your team loses?  Matt shares a personal experience of why he once cried on the field.   

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Is
a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got lost, Just say.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
We got lost? Just save what is better here?

Speaker 4 (00:21):
And we hope you say because we got lost.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Just say yeah, we got lost. Just say here's Bobby
that what's happening everybody? Matt, how are you?

Speaker 5 (00:36):
Budy doing great?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Just kind of taking this heat in, you know, the
heat waves. My first thing, Matts that. As soon as
I laid eyes on him, he goes, how about this heat?
Are you at that age? It's hot in here where
it's always the weather.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
Well, I'm a sweater, right, So I walk outside and
I just start dripping. And I've been out in the
heat all weekend for kids baseball tournament, so it's I'm
just feeling it. I'm feeling well, this is the first
real heat wave that we've had.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Some people are just naturally sweater. It's like Brandon is
a sweater because we would work out, like three of
us over to the gym here on our property, and
I sweat a normal amount. But Brandon, man, it's like,
all right, warm up the brand. It's just like drenched.
I think, just naturally. Some people are read with like
that a crazy sweater. So that's you. Huh, oh, that's me.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
I'd go through like two shirts in a workout session
just because as soon as my pores open up, I
am drenched.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Is it a hydration like, are you always on top
of your hydration?

Speaker 5 (01:36):
No, that's the issue too. I'm a cramper.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Electrolyte me IV me, give me whatever I need.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I just I'm a sweater.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
I've been swimming the last few days. We got to
have a pool here, so I've been doing some laps
in the pool. I did about close to half mile yesterday.
That's good. Yeah, it's just very isolating.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Yes, you've been swimming though by yourself too. It's something
that you get in the pool. It's hard to do
and just continue swim laps.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Especially when there's nothing in your ears or what I
like about just working out in the gym or whatever.
You can listen to music or if I'm just walking
on the treadmill, listen to a podcast, but when you're
in the water, it's just you in the water, and
I think there's probably something beautiful about that, But I
don't like just being there with my thoughts. So I
got online and I got on Amazon, and I look

(02:27):
for a pair of swimming headphones. And they make them
waterproof headphones, and so they're not cheap and they kind
of wrap around your head and they are kind of
above the year, but they kind of fit just right.
And I put them on in the house and sound great,
and I'm like cool, jump in the water, go on
the water immediately. And as soon as I go under
nothing and I come back out music, and I go

(02:49):
back under nothing, I come back out music. And so
I didn't short them out because it says they're waterproof
and for swimmers. So I'm in the middle of swimming,
so I'm just gonna deal with it after So I
throw the headphones on top of the pool and then
I swim and I'll do I do like series of laps,
like I have to keep my hit my mind stimulated.

(03:10):
But so I'll do fourteen laps, twelve laps, ten laps,
eight laps, six laps, four laps, two laps, and I've
done my workout. It's about a forty five minute workout.
That's a solid workout right there.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Yeah, is it all freestyle or are you working a butterfly.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
I don't work well to know any of that. I
just I wish I did try to do what's called butterfly.
I tried to fly. That don't work, like three, And
I was like, I'm a trown good die, good die,
like your whole swimmer. How did you know all that stuff?

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Oh well, I just watched the Olympics. Yeah, oh you
watch the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Wait, you grew up swimming. Yeah. I would swim all
the time, like against people. No, hell oh okay, because
we had like a lake. I mean I could swim.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
Yeah, I could always swim. But my mom was a
swimmer when she was younger, so like she taught us.
Oh that's cool, you know breaststroke and butterfly.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
And all those. But you've been a good one because
you're just like long and athletic. You probably missed your calling.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
I missed my calling for sure. But I mean, after
you listen to some of those guys in the workout
regimen that they have in the morning routine.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah in mornings, yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Mornings, and they're in the pool for two hours. Yeah,
and it's just like, what in the world.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
I always get water in my ear. I can't get
it out. I did. That s what I'm yesterday. I
can't get the water and my ear. Still. The best
thing that I could do that I have done is
take a hair dryer to it, my wie's hair dryer
and just hold it up to my ear and let
it dry out. And that works like seven percent of
the time.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
That can't be good for you. It's not be good
for you.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
So these stupid headphones that I buy, I go back
inside the house and it's look it up and it says,
by the way, if you're going to swim in these,
Bluetooth doesn't work. And they're like, well, what am I
supposed to do? Apparently it has an MP three player
built into the headphones and you're supposed to take your
MP threes is this two thousand and seven and drag
them over to the headphone app. So I gave them

(04:47):
to my friend Eddie today and I was like, you
canna have these absolutely worthless. It's like three hundred bucks
on them.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
You should give it to them and just be like, hey,
they're great for swimming.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well he doesn't even swim.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
Now frustrating.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
It was so frustrating, But yeah, first and Castle said
hot enough for you? I felt like we're like the
VFW were like seventy three years old. Do you do
you not feel like it's warm outside? It's been raining
so much. I'm just happy we have anything. It's not rain. Okay,
I'm good with that.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
But so you're saying it's not hot, You're totally find
You're wearing a sweater right now in long pans.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
It's hot. But I'm fine with hot. Okay. For me,
it will be difficult to live somewhere cold. So this
is too cold for me to live in in the wintertime.
And I've I grew up in Arkansas, so I grew
up in a climate like this. But this is it.
I can't go anymore north. Where you have lived in
northern places in the winter is Boston? Did you live
in Boston with the Patriots? Lived in Boston? Is that

(05:37):
the coldest freaking place you can live? Not at all? Minnesota,
It's like being on Mars did really?

Speaker 5 (05:43):
I mean we I got there in the first October,
like the last day of October, we got our first snow.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Snow never left the ground.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
When we got to December, we had two weeks in
a row where there weren't highs above zero.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
They said, a cold front's coming through.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
So I back up, and everybody has the heaters in
the garage, and I was like, why does everybody have
a heater in the garage. You start to realize why
I back up, and I've never seen it drop below zero,
and then all of a sudden, it keeps going, it
keeps it stops at negative seventeen real temperature. I mean
there was one day the where the wind chill was
negative forty six, and I was like, what is going on?
How do people live here? And that winter goes all

(06:18):
the way through April?

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Did you kind of get used to it?

Speaker 5 (06:22):
You kind of do, just because you have to operate
and be a human, and so you start going out
and shoveling snow and you just clothe yourself up. And
the crazy part. People adapt to it so well that
when it jumped up into like the teens in the twenties,
for the first day after that two week span, you
see people outside running in shorts, and I'm like, these people.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Are savage, dude, They're savage. But that California guy like
you and that cold yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Man, just you know, we're hardcore out there in southern California.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
We adapt. No, in southern California, you don't adapt.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
You don't adapt to anything. You don't have to adapt
to anything that sounds miserable. It was miserably cold, and
even the kids, they would go to preschool and they'd
have them bring all their snow gear, and every day,
as long as it wasn't past negative twenty or something
like that, the kids would put on their snow gear
and go outside for recess. That's how they do it there.
And I was amazed.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, that's tough. This is too cold for me. Not
this second, but winters here are too cold for me.
Are you serious? Yeah? It is not a cold winter.
I would move, would you really? Yes, in the winter,
I would move. I would move to Boca Austin, Oh,
my favorite city. I lived there for twelve years. Oh,
I didn't know you lived there for twelve years. The

(07:41):
entire like first part of my adult radio career, when
I built my syndication company, was in Austin. I was
doing pop and hip hop. Yeah you were, Yeah, it's
Captain Concasian man. Yeah. Where's the coldest place you ever love?
Kevin here? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (07:57):
Livewise?

Speaker 7 (07:57):
Yeah, because California, Southern California, northern and I'm with you
where this is the coldest ic it ever sucks.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
Yeah, it's not even that cold in the winter, guys.

Speaker 6 (08:07):
It's not that coold.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
You've lived in Minnesota, I can see how it's not
even that cold.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Forty thirties. Every now and then blue moon, you'll get
twenty and that sucks. That sucks for the day.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
That sucks. Can't even play pickball in the back of.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
I love in the south too, How the entire community
and city shuts down on a cold front, like, oh,
we're gonna get freezing rain, and the roads are all
terrible and they don't have the infrastructure to clear them.
They're in Minnesota. There wasn't a day where I'd wake
up and couldn't drive on the roads.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Because they have the infrastructure to get they saw the
Yeah we don't have. Why would we invest a bunch
of money in that if it happened like twice.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
A year, I don't know. Well, maybe people need to
get to work.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Maybe that's what it is. More getting to work. More
getting to work. You heard it work.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
It sounds like he's from Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, like he really is offended, Like it's so cold, Oh.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Let's start with some Tom Brady stories. Yes, all right,
tom Brady reportedly said no to the Raiders adding Aaron
Rodgers and Sam Darnold. It's from Yahu Sports. Also, I
don't think that's at the same time, does he have
that type of pool though, as as Marsa Marshall's owner,
a partial owner, minority owner. But I think the answer
would be that's a great question to ask for any

(09:19):
minority owner that's not named Tom Brady. That's a good question.
I mean, he does have some weight to his name,
does it, because now he's kind of like the face
of the organization as well, right, And I think that's
probably a big part of the reason they let him
buy part of the team. But the Raiders did add
Geno Smith, but according to the Athletics Mike Silver, Raiders
minority owner Tom Brady didn't want the Raiders to sign
Donald or Rogers. Donald eventually signed a three year, one

(09:43):
hundred point five million dollar contract with the Seahawks, obviously
Aaron Rodgers with Steelers. They also the Raiders traded a
third round selection in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft
for Geno Smith and then signed him seventy five million
bucks Yeah, what do you think, Sam Donald, what's his ceiling?
You know, did we see it? Did we see a sea?

(10:04):
We could have seen a ceiling.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
I mean when you look at Jefferson Addison, the supporting
cast that he had there, and then also Kevin O'Connell,
who he's brilliant with the quarterback position, coaching that position.
He got the most out of Sam Donald last year. Now,
it would have been interesting to see if he came
back to Minnesota, if he was able to replicate the
year that he had. But now, again it's always when

(10:25):
you change organizations and a new coaching staff, you're also,
regardless of what you say, you're learning a new system.
You've got to get buy in from those players and
now you have to go out and earn it again.
And so for him, hopefully he goes and he's able
to pick up where he left off, not at the
end of last year, but throughout the season and prove
that he is worth what they paid for him, because

(10:48):
obviously last year it's hard to win games in the NFL.
But to do what he did it was a remarkable season.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
He was up for the.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
MVP midway through the year as well. Just the way
he was playing, So he's got to do that, and
then everybody's going to point to in big games and
big moments. But it's not just Sam Donald. When you
get to the playoff and you have some mishaps. I
mean you look at the Detroit Lions and Jared Goff
and he goes out there in the first playoff game
and what he throw four interceptions into that game, and
a lot of guys get to that point and because

(11:16):
everybody's watching, they don't remember all the good that you did,
but they those playoff games matter, and so it's big
games like that that you have to step up in
to get the credibility that you're looking for in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
And when I read this, I don't feel like it's
that he didn't like Sam Donald as a player. I
feel like that's an extra twenty five million bucks you're
gonna have to give Sam Donald versus a Geno Smith.
So it could have been that, that could have been financial.
I definitely understand him not wanting Aaron Rodgers because that
feels like it can get toxic very quickly. With if

(11:50):
you don't think Aaron's toxic, just what happens when you
have Aaron on your team with the.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
Media, right, it's more of the media than anything else.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, but he brings that on himself too, right, Yes,
for sure. So I can see where Tom Brady would
not want that a situation. But when thereon Darnold, he
doesn't want to have to pay that amount of money
for a quarterback that's probably about even. And you're also
looking at your ex coach who is now in Vegas

(12:21):
and you're probably I don't know, what's Pete Carroll like
you when he talked with the ownership. I imagine he
has a good relationsip with everybody. That's just me see
his face like.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
Oh, he's got a great relationship because he's one of
those guys that brings everybody along. At the same time,
I'm sure that he wants control over his team, and
when I say that, there's probably collaboration with the GM
in the front office. But at the end of the day,
I'm sure part of him going there was that he
had control over that team and he was going to
run it the way that he wants to run it.

(12:50):
Because most successful organizations they have that guy and they've
got a head coach that has a vision for his team,
understands his personnel and is going to go out there
and get the guys that he wants and then everybody
else falls in line with that. So Coach Carol obviously
there and then also the history that he had with
Gino Smith.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
And that was my point right with Carol, It was
Carol may have wanted the cheaper option, but also what
he feels like is the better fit in his quarterback
coming in with the year one with the Raiders, right,
and he understands Geno Smith.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
He got the most out of him when he was
in Seattle and now he's making this transition. Also philosophically speaking,
he's a guy that can go into that locker room
and understands what coach Carol wants in his team and
also be another coach in that locker room and help
facilitate that.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Speaking of Tom Brady, he won the Fanatics Games and
he won a million dollars. Did you happen to see this?
What is the Fanatics Game? So we went to Fanatics
Fest last year and basically it's a whole lot of
athletes that come and speak and there are these little
games you can play, and then a whole bunch of
cards being sold because Fanatics is great, so and I
can kind of give you the story here. Seven times

(13:57):
Super Bowl champion Tom Brady emerged Sunday as the winner
of the inaugural Fanatics Games, which had fifty athletes and
celebrities against fifty fans and eight competitions. Brady finished a
top the one hundred person leader board with three hundred
and ninety nine points, taking home the one million dollar prize.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
What were the games, I'm.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Glad you asked. The competitors took part in eight sports
theme skills competitions, including quarterback skills, basketball shooting. They played
around the world soccer goal scoring, baseball pitching accuracy, a
washer dryer, hockey shooting challenge where they had to open
you had to shoot out, okay, a WWE Superstar entrance,

(14:36):
a UFC Striking challenge, and a Closest to the Pin
golf challenge. Okay. I've played golf with him.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
I know that he's really good golfer, so that's gonna
be pretty good.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Hey, for sure won the quarterbacks skill, or at least
finished in the top ten, Because if you're finish in
the top ten of any of these in the hundreds,
you're getting some big points yep, so quarterback skills check. Yes,
I don't know what kind of basketball player he is,
but I will watch him before he can shoot. He
can't shoot, yep. Soccer goal scoring. I'm if you're like,
I've played on the pitch with them before.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
An owner is an owner.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
The pitching accuracy makes sense. He got drafted by the Expo. Yeah,
he was a baseball player. The hockey thing, I don't know.
A WWE Superstar entrance. I'm sure they hyped.

Speaker 8 (15:20):
I saw it.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
You see it?

Speaker 9 (15:21):
No?

Speaker 6 (15:22):
Yeah, I saw a video.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Is it good?

Speaker 7 (15:23):
He had a Eli Manning jersey that he grabbed food.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Oh, I saw that it too, So that was it?
Got it? I saw him shooting against Eli playing around
the world.

Speaker 6 (15:34):
Okay, So it wasn't all set.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Up like he really performed exceptionally well with these Yeah. Yeah,
six fans were among the top ten finishers. James Harden
was fourth, Eli Manning was fifth, and Tom Brady finished first.
He's gonna give five thousand dollars to each of the
fifty fans who competed and then give the rest of chair.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
He won a million dollars.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, he won the million dollars. Wow, did you see
the video of him trying to identify Gronk a chance, Yes.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I did.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
That was all so funny. He's right there, he walks
into a room and there are probably twenty Gronks. It's
all got real humans and all trusted with yeah, just
by their bodies because they have on the eighty seven
Goron eighty seven right, yeah, eighty seven, same Patriots jersey,
exact same helmet. And Brady's like, Okay, you're not Gronk.
You're too tall, year too. And then he's like, none

(16:20):
of these are Gronk. And he walks out in the
real Gronk ts his helmet off and he's like, ah,
really wait so you got it or no, no, He's like,
none of you guys are Gronk.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
Okay, Yeah, it was great. I think he said you're
too small and it was Gronk. I mean, it was hilarious.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Does Brady have that like Jordan unhealthy competitive edge about him?
Like does he find a reason to competitively be unhealthy?

Speaker 5 (16:44):
That's what I think made him so good for so long.
I mean, because every offseason he'd find something to push himself.
Because when you're winning championships and all that, it's easy
to get complacent and just accept it. But he would
always push himself. So whether it was martial arts or
one year it was boxing, we'd go and we he'd
go through this full boxing routine where we're hitting the

(17:04):
bag and we're doing all this stuff and ducking, and
he said it helped him with his footwork yoga one
off season. So he's always finding something to push himself
to be competitive. Then you get him out and I
said this before, probably about the golfing. We get out there,
I mean, he's a madman on the golf course and
he's competitive, and so he's trying to start bets and
do all this stuff. But that's the nature of the

(17:25):
beast is he's ultra competitive in everything he does and
he wants to win.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
How does he stay so good looking? Like I think
he might be getting better looking plastic surgery? Yeah, No,
I'm just kidding what skincare products Like, It's just.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
I'm telling you this dude. He doesn't age. I mean
he does an age. He's in better shape now than
when he came out of college. But he's also one
of those guys that goes back to the ultra competitiveness
everything he does. He's meticulous and so from what he
wears and his outfits and all that stuff to how
he is eating regimen, like he eats healthy all the

(18:02):
time and takes care of his body, and that's just
that's it's just him in his DNA receiver dB.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Travis Hunter signed a four year contract with the Jaguars.
The deal worth forty six point six million fully guaranteed,
includes thirty million signing bonus, which was paid up front.
He's the first non quarterback not drafted first overall to
get his signing bonus entirely upfront. He was the last
of the top ten picks to sign. I watched the
Jacksonville when they were tweeting, and they did two different tweets.

(18:30):
They're like, Jacksonville has signed wide receiver Travis Hunter, and
it's him in the contract. That's like Jacksonville has signed
defensive back Travis Hunter. Is kind of funny. That is
very funny. I mean, he's a unique talent.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
It'll be interesting to see what he brings that team
because obviously a new head coach with Liam Cohen, what
he gets out of Trevor Lawrence and everything else.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
But that guy is a dynamic player.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
I'm just interested to see how much he's going to
play offensively, defensively, special teams, and what that work load's
going to look like for him, because everybody's anticipating him
being that dude. I just it'll be interesting to see
how it all plays out.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
I saw a video of him during camp and he
was dancing and one of the other players like, dude,
stop dancing.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Yes, I did see that too.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
So if a rookie comes in, highly touted, highly drafted,
really paid, does he get a little more freedom than
a rookie, even a fourth round rookie.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
I mean, there's definitely a pecking order. Right when you
come in, you're what was he the second overall, third overall.
When you come in and there's an expectation and you
having a little fun on the field, you get away
with some stuff, for sure, because the type of player
that you are. But at the same time, you gotta
go out there and perform. And then also that's why
you got to have veteran guys on your team. When

(19:45):
it's time to go to work and time to stop
jacking around a little bit, you got to get on
him and tell him and say, hey, let's go to practice.
So he'll get a little leeway. But at the same time,
you go out there and make the catch or make
the play. I'm pretty sure you can dance all you want.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah. The more catches you make, the more dancing. Yeah,
you know, the more you do, the more you're allowed
to do. We're gonna come back and talk to Willie Clone.
Just a second, give us a second.

Speaker 9 (20:10):
Be back here on las to say.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Now, we're going to talk to Willie Cologne. Fourth round
draft pick in two thousand and six. He went to Hofstra.
He was inducted into their Hall of Fame in twenty
twenty three. He is a Super Bowl champion with the
Pittsburgh Steelers. He played and started in exactly one hundred
NFL games during his career. He came home as a
free agent in twenty thirteen when he signed with the
Jets and now he does analysts work for the Jets.

(20:51):
And that's pre and postgame for the Jets on Sportsnet
New York television. Here he is Willy Clone. Hey, Willy,
I appreciate the time. I'm a big fan, big fan
of when you played. Also love what you do a
media Also love here Jon Rossello's podcast, So like appreciate
you being here. I just want to start first with
Aaron Rodgers. The news just came out that he says
this will be his final season. Is he saying it

(21:11):
or does he mean it? What do you think?

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Well, honestly, I thought he was going to retire.

Speaker 8 (21:15):
I didn't even think he was, you know, after everything
that has that had transpired in New York, I thought
in my.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Head that was going to be the last call.

Speaker 8 (21:26):
But you know, I feel like him and Pittsburgh it
makes sense, you know, I see Aaron Rodgers as a
higher mercenary, right, a highed assassin. I think he's I
think he Pittsburgh knows, and he knows that, you know,
he has one more left in the chamber and he
doesn't want his legacy or his career to go down
the way and win in New York, and so he's

(21:47):
decided to join the outfit that's always ready to compete
and trying to set a standard and compete for a
Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
And I think he really wants to go out with
a bank.

Speaker 8 (21:54):
So, uh, you know, I think this is it, you know,
But like I said, I thought it was it in
New York.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
So who knows.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Let's talk about an achilles injury for a second, because
last year he played after having it hurt, and it
seemed as the season went along for whatever reason, and
maybe it was because he was feeling better as the
season went and healthier. One can he all the way
be rehabbed at his age from that achilles to where
it was even three years ago. And two, does he

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have enough in him to actually be a top twelve
to fifteen quarterback this year?

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Well, I thought he was a top ten quarterback last year.

Speaker 8 (22:29):
I think if you put if you put his stats
next to Josh Allen, they weren't far off. I mean
he he had eleven warrants, He had eleven in Josh
Allen had six, But their numbers are fairly I think
he had a sixty three percent completion rating, so did
Josh Allen, So they weren't off. But obviously two tales
of two different seasons, on and on and on. Nevertheless, man,

(22:51):
I still see him as a top ten quarterback. One
of the things that helped Aaron Rodgers last year when
Tyron Smith went down, they was able to get Olu
Fashion and their rookie left tack and I thought that
solidified the left side of that line and allowed Aaron
to buy more time in the pocket. And thought last
year he was, you know, obviously coming off the achilles,
he was still dealing.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
With a knee ahead an ankle. He started to break down.

Speaker 8 (23:13):
He broke down early, and then as the season went along,
I mean, the just were out of it. After week eight,
he seemed to get healthier, and he seemed to get
healthier right in time when they got old fashioned in
the lineup and they started to play better, and you
started to see examples of what he was what he's
capable of doing in his age. I mean, he still
is not as quick and nimble as he was when

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he was, you know, stacking MVPs with the Green Bay Packers,
but you still you still see flashes of him having
those big throws, those off platform throws, his you know,
his ability to improvise. And so it's a it's a
long injury. Like I tore my achilles. I tore my
achilles right after I won my Super Bowl. It took
me six months, excuse me, six months to really kind

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of feel good and do things.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
And it took me a full.

Speaker 8 (23:58):
Year to feel like I'm back to neutral where I
can now get back to being who I want to
be and how I want to play. The rehab process
is tedious, and the mental grind of watching your brothers
go to work while you're kind of on the sideline
is even worse.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
So I honestly it's a two year injury all together.

Speaker 8 (24:16):
But to get back to running and jumping and lifting
and doing everything you can't do athletically, it's roughly six months.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
With that injury. We just saw a bunch of NBA
guys get it as well, right, I think we saw
three of them, from Dame to Halliburton to Tatum. You're
talking about Aaron Rodgers talking about yourself. How much of
that is mentally trusting it more than it actually not
being ready, because I'm sure there's such a like a
mental part of okay, I believe it works more so

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than it really just working well.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I think it's you know, it's a case by case scenario,
you know.

Speaker 8 (24:48):
For me, being an office lineman, I felt more confident
because I remember I had talked to a doctor from
Yale about the injury. I had never sustained, I never
suffered from anything like that, and one of the first
things they told me was like, hey, man, you're gonna
have to do more things barefooted, so you get the
strength and kind of get your body, get your foot

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firing like it was, and then out of that man,
it was more or less telling me like, hey, you're
not a receiver, you're not a running back, you're not
a dB. You're not gonna be cutting and planning and
changing direction like those guys have to do.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
You're gonna be fine. You do your work in a box.

Speaker 8 (25:24):
So it gave me more optimism and more confidence that
I was going to return back to the guy I
wanted to be on the field. Those guys, as far
as a point guard, they're just basketball player in general.
There's so much instinctive work they have to do when
they're out there doing their job. It takes more of
not only your confidence, but also trusting that you know
the rest of your body is gonna come and come

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into fruition. Because one of the things that happened to
me when I tore my achilles, I started having knee
issues right because my body was confensating for what I
what I you know, what I tore, And so it's
a process. Confidence is huge, but also just really not
just trusting your body trusting your brain to react how
you wanted to react, and I second guessing yourself of
everything you do.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Did you have an age in your life where and
I think Scottie Pippens an example of this. I also
saw another person that grew a bunch where you grew
like in a substantial amount in like a year time.

Speaker 8 (26:16):
No, you know, my generics is different, man. My dad
my dad was roughly sixty four six'. Five my grandmother
was sixty, three SO i had to hight from that.
Side but my mom's folks were all you, know they're
all big back and barrel chested. People you, know we
were all SO i kind OF i got the in
between of all. That but, NEVERTHELESS i never had a
gross smurt like A Dennis robin Or Scottie pippin, had

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if you.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
WILL i kind of grew with my. Age the only.

Speaker 8 (26:42):
Thing at one point it seemed that the only thing
that was growing was my, feet, man because my FEET
i matched my.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Age so WHEN i was, TWELVE i wore.

Speaker 8 (26:49):
Twelve WHEN i was, FOURTEEN i wore, fourteen AND i
thank GOD i stopped at, seventeen SO i were aside
seventeen AND i was wearing a seventeen WHEN i was,
seventeen and my dad was, like, man we got to
take you to the.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Doctores this ain't making, sense.

Speaker 8 (27:03):
You know if you were aside seventeen to be six
y ten AND i was like, SIX i was like
six feet with a side.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Seventeen and THEN i think COLLEGE i. GREW i grew
with two more.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Inches i'm buddies With DeMarcus square and he talked about
in college he grew a, lot like from his freshman
year until he finished At, troy like HE i think
six or seven inches through, college so not even a,
year but he grew a substantial amount of college and
went to a smaller school which Is, troy which again
and you went To. Hofstra so when you went Into,
hofstra did you have a bunch of offers and physically was

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the most development why you were in? College, NO i.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Didn't have a bunch of.

Speaker 8 (27:39):
OFFERS i had a LOT d one DOUBLE a offers
Like maine And New hampshire and those type SCHOOLS i didn't.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
HAVE i THINK i had ONE d ONE a offer
and that was To South.

Speaker 8 (27:49):
Carolina and then mostly it wasn't because of my, talent
is BECAUSE i didn't do a great job in the,
classroom and they wasn't bothered with.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
ME i didn't want to bother with, Me so that
was the. Issue, Nevertheless, man.

Speaker 8 (28:03):
It was it was a situation where like my transformation
did come into weight room in, college but what really.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Happened was my athleticsism really came into.

Speaker 8 (28:13):
PLAY i had a great coach And Damien, rabluski who's
now at The university Of. Maryland, man he had us jumping,
Rope we was doing, Pliles we was doing so many.
Things AND i grew up playing, basketball SO i had
naturally quick feet AND i was always the chubby kid
on the team that could do everything. ATHLETICALLY i was
just you, KNOW i just happened to have belly and like.
Snacks but, nevertheless, MAN i attribute a lot of my

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athleticism and a lot of my footwork and THINGS i
was able to acquire just me kind of being in
the weight room one BECAUSE i was always. Strong but
the athletics, side being able to, jump, run, skip doing
all those. Things the more dynamic STUFF i attribute to
my college. Training my office line coach at time had
a lot to. Help he installed a lot of that

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at me, too.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
So when you go From hofstra to THE. Nfl was
the strength and the speed very different as opposed if
you were to come from one of the Big power five.

Speaker 8 (29:04):
Schools, NO i mean the strengtheness the speed was definitely
a factor my.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
BRAND i played against guys who are. BIGGER i was
bigger than, it.

Speaker 8 (29:12):
RIGHT i played against a lot of speed defensive, ends
guys who are like two fifty who just get off
the ball really.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Fast WHEN i got into the, league you, know people.

Speaker 8 (29:19):
Understand my first start was Against baltimore and it was
Against Trevor.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Price he was six, sake two hundred and ninety.

Speaker 8 (29:24):
Pounds right then my next start was Against Sam, adams
who was six, six three hundred and sixty. Pounds and
THEN i turned around the following year BECAUSE i started
the next year Against.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
CLEVELAND i Had willie.

Speaker 8 (29:34):
McGinnis SO i was playing dudes who are not only, big,
fast but like enormous human. Beings so it was me
taking AND i was considered an undersized.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Tackle i'm only sixty.

Speaker 8 (29:44):
Three most of the guys most tackles are six, four sixty,
five six six. Guys i'm a sixty three tackle on the,
edge AND i really had to use EVERYTHING i. Learned
every guy gifted eng in me to fight these guys and.
COMPETE i remember my first game Against. Baltimore it is
a shot of me man WHERE i looked like And
i'm physically an emotion and spiritually defeated because at ONE

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i had never played at that, level that high, level
especially against The Baltimore ravens and.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Two it was.

Speaker 8 (30:14):
Great it was everything for me BECAUSE i felt LIKE
i survived the game rather than thrive in the. Game
but AS i was able to, mature AND i had great,
coaches like you, Know i'm drawing a, blank excuse, Me
russ Grimm and because he was an undersized. Guard because
he me and him kind of the same as, stature
he instilled a lot of tools in me on how

(30:36):
beat a, combative how to get after. Guys you, KNOW
i remember watching a lot of table On Jason peters
when he was at The Buffalo bills and how he
used to set and go after. GUYS i didn't have long,
arms SO i had to always take the fight to.
GUYS i couldn't sit back there like A Joe thomas
a vertical set and just take on the bull rush
and do all that.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Stuff you.

Speaker 8 (30:52):
KNOW i remember playing Against Jason taylor And Vonnie. Holliday you,
know all these guys were just extremely, long big, guys
and they would use their arms and they would drive
you right into the quarterback and beat you up. Right
and SO i had TO i had to cheat every
snap like a bull coming out the. CAGE i just
had to go at. Them and that was kind of my,
game using my footwork in my. Hands AND i was,
LIKE i learned a lot of that because of my,

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coaches THAT i was able to be coached.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
By guys you lined up. Against IF i were to,
say who was one of the stronger guys you lined up,
against and then who was one of the faster guys
you lined up? Against would you, Say, man.

Speaker 8 (31:23):
So i've told this. Story So i've told this. Story
SO i don't wear. SOCKS i don't know if you
knew that during your. Process did you know?

Speaker 2 (31:28):
That?

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yes, YES i.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Do, yeah, Yeah SO i don't wear.

Speaker 8 (31:32):
Socks and so part of my reasons why one of
the REASONS i don't wear socks BECAUSE i used to
like to feel the studs underneath my feet WHEN.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
I was getting off the. Ball that was kind of
like a trigger for.

Speaker 8 (31:42):
Me and so we're playing In San francisco forty nine
ers and the week, prior you, know my office line
Is Kendu, Simmons Alan fannick And Marvel, Smith Jeff harding's
all these guys who had won The Super bowl and
really just decorated guys on a lot of different. Levels
and so they were telling me, like, hey young, fella
you need to you gotta have to strap it.

Speaker 9 (32:04):
Up.

Speaker 8 (32:04):
Man you Got Brian youngest week And i'm, like, Like,
OKAY i knew who he, was BUT i wasn't you,
KNOW i wasn't intimidated nor, scared BUT i knew he you,
KNOW i knew his career In Notre dame and how
long he had. Played we played against The niners, man
and me and him are in an absolute dog, fight
like we were beating on each. Other we're getting off the,
ball AND i remember saying to myself, like, man this

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this dude's. Legit and now one of the THINGS i
always got kind of labeled as being a bad, ass
WHCAUSE i don't wear socks in my. Cleats, well there's
A tv. Timeout i'm sitting in the. Huddle you, KNOW
i got lit Busted i'm breathing all. Heavy we're looking
at each. Other he's looking at, me AND i looked at.
IT i looked down at his. Feet he doesn't have any,
socks so.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
And i'm like. Okay AND i remember we had a duo.

Speaker 8 (32:50):
Play and it's me and my right guard at the,
time his Name kendall was next to, me and it's
pretty much a double team to the to the backside.
Linebacker AND i called the double team. Off i'm, like,
NO i got, him like, no, no, no, no, no
LIKE i got. Him i'm growling in my stance and brother,
MAN i shut off the.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Ball he shut off the balls like two bulls wack.

Speaker 8 (33:14):
It AND i can feel me AND i feel Like
i'm getting, them Like i'm trying to get, them and he,
no books he close pressed me off him like, this
AND i could feel his strength go through my body.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
To the point where LIKE i, was you know how like.

Speaker 8 (33:27):
The old wwe went Like holgan a warrior used to
lock up and they used to be like.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
This, yeah that's how it.

Speaker 8 (33:34):
Felt AND i remember that never happened to me, before
AND i was, like oh my.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
God AND i remember trying to like really dig in
and get him and he just.

Speaker 8 (33:41):
Closed he just slowly benched me off, him got let
me go and went ahead to make the. Play AND i,
said oh my, God and what's so wild about? That
the offseason came around and that's ALL i thought. About
that's ALL i thought about him bench pressing me off
him and kind of shutting me and going to make the.
Play and THEN i think the next TIME i looked

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up in the gym like he was charged with ahgh or.
Something he got, something AND i was, LIKE i was,
like i'llkay, this hope, Right i'm not weak like he.
Did there's more to the sauce than him just being, bigger,
faster stronger and then built like A greek.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
God.

Speaker 8 (34:15):
Uh and so that was. Cool that was that was
always a funny. Story and then you, KNOW i PLAYED
i played against The Lodi nada. Man helodi was Just
he's probably the best DUDE i ever played. Against Uh
AND i played against a lot of great, guys but he.
Was you, know one thing about THE, nfl everybody has a, superpower,
right somebody's really, smart they're fast or, strong they got.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
This everybody has an.

Speaker 8 (34:37):
Edge the PROBLEM holoadi is we were, saying, guy same, temperament, fast, big,
strong and we both we both both had an effet
mentality like if you want to go to the, backyard
we can be in the. Backyard we can fight all.
Day and so that was so that was the great
thing about our rivalry Against.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Baltimore.

Speaker 8 (34:54):
Man when your superpowers don't work, anymore what do you?

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Do you?

Speaker 8 (34:58):
Fight, Right and so we were always kind of having
that back and, forth getting after each, other getting after each.
Other AND i got a lot of respect From, man
but he was he was a, dog all.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
DOG i was going to ask you about the sock thing.
Independently i'm glad you brought that, up because the only
other player THAT i knew who would want to feel
Was Walter. Payton he would take the soles out of
his shoes and as a running, back he would take
the soles Out and, yeah that felt, weird but he
said he wanted to feel the. Turf he wanted to
feel the ground as a running, back so he wanted
his feet to be as close to the dirt as.
Possible AND i was going to ask you about the

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socks that that was when that, started and did that
last year entire career or were you ever like, man
because WHEN i don't wear, socks my feet, stink like just.
Permanently so tell me about the sock.

Speaker 8 (35:38):
Thing, well One i'm notoriously known for, that like having
the most stinkiest locker and the stinkiest feet in the locker.
Room they have this machine called the O zooe where
you're able to throw your cleats in and kind of
defunct your. CLEAT i THINK i broke. One it was
my feet were so damn. Funky it started in high.
School LIKE i, SAID i had a big shoe. SIZE

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i THINK i was my first pair of turf. FLEATS
i was wearing a sixteen and they didn't my my
coach at the time went to there was a sporting
good store Called frank's in The, bronx and they happened
to somehow.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Get these turf cleats THAT i was able to.

Speaker 8 (36:16):
Wear AND i put MY i had socks on at the,
time AND i started and WHEN i put my my
my feet in these, Socks, seuse WHEN i put my
foot in these, CLEATS i started to get like it
was like it WAS i it was irritated my. Foot
it was like THAT i don't know how to explain.
It it was just it was irritating my foot AND i
started to get like this chafing thing going, on and

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SO i, said damn the damn with. Them and THEN
i simply just put my foot in there with no
socks AND i spat it AND i had a great,
game AND i just kind of went with it and
that was that was my, thing AND i did it
in the. League but you, know you get fine from
that wearing. Socks SO i used to put the calves sleeves.
ON i used to put the whole sock, on cut
the ankle, off and then. Tape so, yeah so it

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looked like a, sock but it was no.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Sock that's so legit that you cut the feet out
of the socks and just bore the calves so you
didn't Get, YEAH i want to ask question BECAUSE i
see the, pictures the picture behind, you and then also
your jersey. THERE i think of you as just A,
steeler like through and through A. Steeler and you mentioned
The ravens earlier, on and to, me professional rivalries are

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always of interest because the fans and the media like
they're the. Ones the fans, like we love, them we
hate the team was supposed to hate and the media
constantly propels it because it'll get. Clicks did you hate
The ravens as you played The.

Speaker 8 (37:32):
RAVENS i hated The ravens, because first of, with the
rivalry is.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
REAL i think that you have to tell the fans
that BECAUSE.

Speaker 8 (37:39):
I think there's this level where people think it's kind
of it's all made it FOR. Tv we know it.
Was the robbery was very real and it was it was.
INTENSE i KNOW i personally wouldn't sleep well going Into ravens,
games like out of the WEEK i probably got you,

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KNOW i probably slept good two days out of that
week going Into ravens games because your man who's gonna
be challenged and it was one of those games where
you couldn't, blink meaning you couldn't show, fear and.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
You couldn't look like the guy that didn't belong on the.

Speaker 8 (38:12):
Field you had to match that level of intensity or
you was gonna stick, out or you was gonna get,
hurt or you gonna get somebody else. Hurt so you.
Didn't it wasn't just about your eight. Game it's about
bringing your your will to the. Floor and somebody may say, like,
well don't you do that Every, sunday you would think.
So but sometimes when you're equally yoked as a guy
across from, you and you know they had the same,
passion the same, pride and the same fight as, you

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now you have to do you have to kind of
you kind of matched their. Intensity and every time we
played The, ravens, man it was always.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Intense it was always in your. Face it was you, know.

Speaker 8 (38:45):
It's so funny BECAUSE i just had a daily As
thomas And Bart scott at my golf outing yesterday right
to Great ravens, right AND i work With bart obviously
because we both cover The. Jets but, nevertheless, man it
was just it was just always it always felt. BIG
i don't, like no matter where we were in the,
standings it always felt, big and it always felt, real

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and it was it was like a blood lust what
we had for each. Other AND i Credit heines Ward.
Man heines was always that, guy you know unique what
was unique About. Hines when you talk about somebody setting the,
tone it usually comes from a linebacker or running back
or somebody on the defense that's a hard.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Hitter never you're you, know five to eleven Slot korean. Receiver,
uh you know WHAT i?

Speaker 8 (39:31):
Mean who looks to knock your damn head, off and he,
did and how much how much hate they had for.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Him AND i know hates a strong, word but it.
Was it was a tense. Man we said extremely unchristian
like things to each.

Speaker 8 (39:43):
Other we got after each, other and we were, just you,
know we were just really we were just two bulls
on the, block you know WHAT i. Mean we were
just always cladding heads and and it was it was.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Real BUT i loved. It it made, Me it made
my career.

Speaker 8 (39:55):
Made it was one of my favorite, games as much
AS i would not sleep and get the knots in
the stomach and try to play my BEST i love Playing.
BALTIMORE i love playing In. BALTIMORE i loved loved them coming,
home played them in their OWN.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
I saw Your instagram where you were playing. Golf what's your? Handicap,
Oh i'm.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Horrible, Man i'm like a twenty six or something like.
That it's not.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Good we have a debate on this. Show if you
find a certain brand of ball in the, woods because
we're not very good. Either if you find a certain
brand of ball in the, woods what's the number one?
Brand if you see, it you're, LIKE i don't even
know IF i want that.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Ball oh probably bridge, Though.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Oh come, on, yeah you with all the other, GUYS
i pick. NOODLE i pick. Noodle but it was.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
CRAZY i started to say. Noodle BUT i found myself
kind of liking the noodle.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Ball, okay, everybody you, know it's like no wearing. Socks
it's all. Feel it's all. Feel it's all.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Feel I'm i'm. Listen my golf game is so up and.
DOWN i love. IT i wish you know one thing about.

Speaker 8 (40:51):
GOLF i WISH i would have played it earlier in
my career because the, beau the beautiful thing about golf
is it doesn't matter how mad you. Are it doesn't
matter how you feel about the. Game you got to
play the. Course you got to present the ball with
a level of education and mechanics to do the, job
to hit the, ball to get get into the. Hole
and so it requires you to kind of always get.

(41:11):
Centered everything's about getting centered so you could do your.
Job and that's and that's, football. Man it doesn't matter
how angry but fired UP i. AM i always had
to get back to zero SO i could do my job.
Right and whatever came out of, THAT i had to
still get back to. Zero and that's very much, golf
and SO i. Been you, Know Ben roethlisberg is a big.
Golfer we had some guys that love, golf BUT i

(41:32):
hated it up UNTIL i. Retired NOW i go to
sleep with the.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Golf Channel instagram At Willie colonne sixty. Six, again big
fan of your work and all capacities LIKE i watch
you or listen to you or HOWEVER i consume you
are a big fan of how you tell stories and
appreciate your time, Today, willie and here's to a GREAT nfl,
season and HOPEFULLY i talk to you against.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Sim appreciate your. Brothers thank, you all, Right.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Willy see a?

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Buddy all, Right, kevin what do you have for us over?

Speaker 7 (42:12):
There all, right, GUYS i want to read through a
list of topics here and each of you to answer
at what age should a grown man stop doing this
as a sports?

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Fan? Okay, hey we got two grown men right here
ready to answer these. Questions that's.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
Right and if there is no, age you can say that.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Too, okay all, Right i'll write mine down so and
then you'll go. FIRST i won't be affected by your. Answer,
okay go, ahead.

Speaker 7 (42:34):
All right number, one wearing a player's jersey outside of
going to a.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Game, okay, Okay i'm in like talk about. Why my
answer is my? Answer are you? In i'm?

Speaker 2 (42:52):
In go?

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Ahead what's your? Answer twenty? Five?

Speaker 5 (42:56):
WHY i just, think you, know adult males after college
don't need to be right fucking jerseys unless you're going
to the gym or something like that outside of twenty,
Five like you're just wearing another man's, jersey not going
to a sporting. Event i'm pretty confident that twenty five

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is my cap, there.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
AND i like your. ANSWER i went a little, older
And i'll tell you why because you do. It, no
BUT i did WHEN i played rec softball WHERE i
Signed Mark grace jersey AND i played.

Speaker 5 (43:30):
Awesome But i'm saying you're going to a Sporting.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
NO i played rex softball wearing a Sign Mark grace. Jersey,
no that's pretty, baller, right that's. ACCEPTABLE i put down thirty.
Two NOW i agree with everything you, Said but what
about does it matter if it is like a, vintage
like a. Retro let's Say i'm going somewhere and my

(43:53):
jersey is not a current player who's like a twenty
three year old And i'm in my, forties but it's
like a Mean Joe green. Jersey like it's like an
old school. Like the REASON i went a little older
is BECAUSE I i THINK i can get around. THAT
i don't want to look lame more on another dude's.
Jersey Because i'm wearing A Philadelphia Eagles Reggie white vintage.

(44:15):
JERSEY i think that's pretty, cool AND i think you
can wear. That it's kind of a fashion statement more
than just a Lame BECAUSE i agree with you everything you.
Said i'm not pushing back on that at. ALL i
think the only reason it can be a bit older
is if the jersey is a bit. Older with older,
players we're paying homage to the. Great but if you're
out wearing A. Cj straw jersey and you're forty two
and you're going to dinner on A, wednesday that's pretty.

(44:36):
Lame that's What i'm.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
Saying, yeah, yeah you're sitting. THERE i totally agree with.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
That it warrants.

Speaker 5 (44:43):
Something if you're wearing a legendary jersey of a player
and you're going to a concert or something like that
and you've got the swag, Going, okay it's a fashion.
Statement but if you're just going over To Ace hardware
and they're going to go.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Out, yeah, yeah. YEAH i think it's the age of
the player you're. WEARING i think if the age of
the player is younger than, you it's kind of.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
Lame, yes thank, you to a good.

Speaker 6 (45:05):
Point you're wearing a.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Kid's jersey and you're putting them up on The god.
Pedestal SO i would, say if we're just nuancing this,
thing BECAUSE i agree with your, age And i'm gonna
lift it a bit if it's like a vintage old school,
jersey but that player is still older than you or,
Dead so you cannot wear the jersey of someone that's
younger than. You, Okay i'm with. YOU i think we
just came to the absolute. Rule you cannot wear the

(45:27):
jersey of a player that's younger Than you're just gonna chill,
now if you're going to a, GAME i still think
that's almost the. Rule even if you're going to the,
Game like how Many Aaron rodger.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
Jerseys there's gonna be a bunch of them out there
in The, steelers just.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Forty five fifty year, olds and that's. Weird that's. Weird,
YEAH i think the general rule should be IF i
were to Wear Dictate. Bridshaw, yes you must Go bradshaw
or maybe even. Well but who's, Older roethlisberger Or Aaron.
Rodgers oh that's a good. Question.

Speaker 5 (45:55):
Roethlisberger he's definitely.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Older Because rogers is forty.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
Forty still looking around. Forty roethlisberger's forty, Three, yeah looking
around fifty.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
FIVE i SAW i play in the charity like celebrity
golf From roethlisberger a few weeks. Ago uh, huh. Towering
he's a massive human, being not, Fat, no just he's a,
thick big old. Boy you're like, that a whole body. Jack.

Speaker 6 (46:22):
Yeah, yeah forty three and forty, one so close in.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Age. Yeah SO i couldn't wear roethlisberger jersey, then Because
i'm JUST i just Beat, roethlisberger.

Speaker 6 (46:32):
And you can wear A rogers.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Jersey, NO i.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Can't is younger than?

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Me, NO i?

Speaker 6 (46:35):
Think oh, yeah, yeah. SORRY i think no man.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Should wear any jersey of a player younger than, them.

Speaker 6 (46:39):
REGARDLESS i think you just had a new.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Rule. YEAH i think that's the rule for for.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
At a game and not at a game.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
Both, yeah. Both you shouldn't worship an athlete younger than.
You you can root for, them but you shouldn't worship.

Speaker 5 (46:49):
Them that's fair unless they're your.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Sibling, yeah if they're, family that works.

Speaker 9 (46:52):
Fair.

Speaker 6 (46:52):
Yeah now we're just throwing curve.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Both, yeah we want to make sure we check all
the boxes.

Speaker 7 (46:56):
Exactly, okay all, Right next, up maximell and bring a
baseball glove to a.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Game, okay, mmm, okay you know what you want to go? First, yeah,
okay no, age as long as the kid's with.

Speaker 5 (47:11):
YOU i was just going to say that for, sure
if you have a kid with you and you're going
to a game with the purpose of catching a foul
ball for your, child totally makes. Sense if you're going
to a game by, yourself.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Different, age hold, ON i like. That, OKAY i have no.
Age if you have a kid with, you it's a bonding. Thing, yeah, okay,
okay by. Yourself i'm in at twenty, two huwenty.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
TWO i was gonna say.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
College, yeah when you graduate, college, baby, yeah OR i
mean even if maybe high. SCHOOL i, MEAN i don't.

Speaker 5 (47:47):
Know if we even drop that down to like, eighteen
you can start smoking and buying, cigarettes and at that
point you that's your endpoint for bringing a.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Glove because you just got to man up and catch
that ball with your. Hand and if you're on a,
date don't take a glove with. You if there's no.
Kid o'kay how old you? Are?

Speaker 5 (48:04):
Yeah what are you gonna catch her a foul ball
and she?

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Yeah keep it?

Speaker 5 (48:07):
Forever ye?

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yeah walk around the. Loser, yeah catch with your bare.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
Hands, Honey i'm proposing.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Tonight that's WHY i brought the. Glove, okay maybe in that,
circumstance all.

Speaker 7 (48:17):
Right next, up, okay paint your face in the team.
Colors never go into a.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Game you're going to never star.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
Again you gotta stay twenty, two like right around that
college age where you're still entrenched in the environment of
college football or going to a stadium and you're with
your buddies or your girlfriends and you're just, like let's. Rage,
OKAY i get. It but anything past, that if you're
an adult living in the real, world don't need to

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paint your.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Face i'm going to say thirty, five but only if
you're doing it with other. People you can't go to
a game by yourself and you'll be the only one.
Painted but if there's like eight of you and you're
like the dog Pound.

Speaker 5 (49:02):
Oh you're part of like the, community like The, raiders
like the Black hole or whatever it might be Where
but that's like, costumes that's stress.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Up so they're still painting their. Face, YEAH i don't
have a problem with. It if it's done in a,
group there's power and numbers of being. Weird So i'm gonna,
say if you like you and all your boys are
going to a game and you, decaid we're gonna be
stupid and take our shirts off and paint our chests
and face, Like i'm not gonna do. That it ain't for.
Me but it's just when you're doing it by. Yourself,
yeah by yourself.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Puts a whole nother puts you into a whole other.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Category So i'm gonna go a little, older But i'm
gonna put the caveat of you have to do it
with other people or it looks really weird by.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
Yourself i'm going to catch a game by. Myself hold,
on paint it painted with.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
The glove in a? Jersey, yes all.

Speaker 6 (49:46):
Right next, one Ook ay bashed an athlete On.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Twitter oh, MMM i don't.

Speaker 5 (49:53):
KNOW i don't know about this. One you can't really
cap it because there there are fans everywhere that are
fanatical and they want to have their, opinion and right
now in our, society social media gives them that.

Speaker 7 (50:06):
Ability but, like at what age are, you, like, dude
your girl, man like you're taking time out of your
day to come comment or say something?

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Bad?

Speaker 5 (50:14):
Well DO i think it's ridiculous that people go on
and make comments half the? Time, yeah of COURSE i.
Do but at the same, Time i'd, say since you
get into that forty, realm it's, like do you do
you really want to spend your time capping on a
twenty one year old kid that missed the ball or
crapping all over a player for a bad.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
PERFORMANCE i would say it also, like what are we
playing college or? PROFESSIONAL i think that matters.

Speaker 6 (50:40):
Professional it's.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Weird i've never gone on and bashed in. Athletes me,
neither AND i have big opinions about everything all the.
Time i've bashed, Organizations i've questioned coaching, decisions But i've
never been on it's been like this person sucks.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
Or felt like you had to go write that in.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Because that and maybe it's because people will do that
to me and it feels so so that could be
a reason too that people will come after me and
say personal things because of the job THAT i, do
and at times MAYBE i don't perform as well as,
others so that could possibly affect. It But i'm going to,
say what can you rent a car twenty? Six? Yeah,
okay that's when you should stop throwing spears at specific.

Speaker 6 (51:22):
Athletes, okay when you can rent a?

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Car.

Speaker 5 (51:24):
YEAH i think the issue though with this is that
with the betting now and, EVERYBODY i Think, Betty, yeah fantasy,
betting that's changed the world because you're. Great i've got
so many friends that are forty plus fifty. Plus, look
they've got their, parlays they've got, this that and the other,
point and they're just emotional that they miss their parlay

(51:47):
or they miss this based on one player's. Performance AND
i don't know if they actually snap back at those
guys on social media or the, players but at the
end of the, day that's what this world's come, to
is they have to get their frustrations out some way
because they just lost a bunch of.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
Money THEN i would like.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
To retract my statement That i've never said anything bad
because BECAUSE i. Don't i've not taken, shots BUT i
have said things like If Jamal charles would have got
me four more, YARDS i would have, though or is
it staying a?

Speaker 6 (52:18):
Fact, NO i don't count.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
That OR i was one leg away If Chad holmgreen
gets one more, Block so if that doesn't, COUNT i
still don't think of every something bad about an. Athlete
if that, does THEN i have many times because THAT'S
i didn't think about. THAT i do let my fantasy and.
Betting it is reflected in my. Posting, yeah BUT i
don't ever go after the person because it's not really.

(52:42):
There it could have been the scheme that, week, right
more so than the. Player does that? Count was talking
about about somebody IF i, say, man if they had
gotten six more yards or one more catchout of won the,
game that my fantasy game this.

Speaker 7 (52:52):
Week, no because you're along with you, know hundreds of
thousands or whoever are also on the same.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Boat And i'm not blaming the player, Ever i'm just
saying if they would have and that could have been
again a quarterback's. Fault the it doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 (53:04):
Now if he drops it's like a PASS i would
have got you the last, second and you're, like, oh
if he would have caught that.

Speaker 6 (53:08):
Pass but he can't. Catch, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Layers if he would have caught that last, Ball BUT
i don't THINK i would have ever said he can't, catch,
right because obviously he's in THE. Nfl AND i THINK
i handle it differently because people take shots at me
all the. Time BUT i don't Think i'm the normal.
Person But i'm still putting it into twenty.

Speaker 6 (53:24):
Six, okay we got back to Twenty when.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
You can rent a, car that's when you need to
shut up about specific players. Sucking because you had done
anything in your, life you barely can rent a.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Car.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Loser there you. Go, OKAY i like that.

Speaker 7 (53:52):
Next one here asking an athlete for an, Autograph, well for,
me this one's.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
TOUGH i think it's fair to fair to be a
fan in to ask an athlete for for an autograph
when you're an, adult but it's got to be within
Again i'm cut off point for me is usually around
college like to ask for an autograph or you, know
it's hard BECAUSE i respect the fans in, that So

(54:23):
i'll say thirty BUT i WILL i will say, this
we've been out at training camp before and they have
the autograph, seekers, right and or you'll be going to
your hotel the night before a game and they're sitting out.
There these are grown adults with multiple things to, sign
trying to get you to sign a, blank blank sheet
of paper just to get your autograph and sell it

(54:44):
and do that. Stuff and there's little kids and they
get try to jump in front of these little, kids
and it infuriates me watching them do. That AND i
know they're trying to make a buck and do whatever
they want to, do and they've got something going on the.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Side but for, kids it's one.

Speaker 5 (54:58):
Thing grown adults getting in front of other kids to try,
to you, know push their way in there and take
get autographs for their own because you know they're just
trying to sell. It, right it has no purpose other
than them trying to monetize. It so this one's hard for.
Me all, Right i'll say Thirty.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
I've played shows at The Ryman auditorium here In, nashville
and you run into those guys and they basically have
a big piece of cardboard and they have like six
things on it and they're, Like, baba will you sign,
This but don't make it out to, anybody.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
Right never never personalize, it.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Because if you, do it loses the value and resale,
completely and that's. Annoying, also you still do it because
WELL i do because what's my autograph? Worth very? Little
so you still do, it and you sign everybody else's
thing too going. In but it does feel like the
older they are the goofy or it feels until you're,

(55:54):
like you know, what they're just trying to make a.
LIVING i also own part of sports memorabilia, business but
AGAIN i don't walk around asking athletes to sign. Them
mostly that's a room set up with a bunch of
stuff where the athlete goes, in paid a blanket amount
and they sign. Everything. RIGHT i think if you can
grow facial, hair it starts to get weird if you're

(56:15):
just asking for an. Audit unless it's like a, legend,
man that's a tough.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
One that is a really tough.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
ONE i, mean IF i had like a really cool
Old i'll just give an, example Because i'm looking at one,
now like Old Dallas cowboys helmet and hershel walker was
like standing, There i'd be like, dude, Yeah i'd be, like,
HEY i was a big fan of, yours would you
mind signing this old? Helmet SO i think it just
made the.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
Right setting, Though, YEAH i, agree because setting matters big.
Time like if if somebody comes up to you and
you've in you're at the restaurant with your, wife and they, say,
hey could you sign this for, me that's a weird.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Circumstance can we also insert the if they're older than you?
Rule it's okay because, again IF i See Larry bird
AND i got a ball Freaking Larry bird like WHEN
i was a, KID i need you to sign that
because you're still kind of a kid to that person
that affected you when you were a. Kid SO i
almost want to put that if they're older than, you
you can ask for an autograph at any. Time if

(57:09):
they're younger than, you we have some rules we need
to talk. About, yes when in, doubt that absolutely makes.

Speaker 6 (57:14):
Sense, yeah when in, doubt go with that that, line that.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Parameter if they're older than you and they were cool
to you as a kid and you would have wanted
their autograph as a, KID i think it's still. Okay
as long as you're not being creepy and like they're
not with their, kids they're not eating have food in
front of, them it's okay to ask for an. Autograph,
yeah but it's when an older older man comes up
to you who's fifteen years older than, you it's like
we shomp some of my. Shoe that's when it gets.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
Weird it does get.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Weird good, Question they'll give me one.

Speaker 6 (57:39):
More, okay last.

Speaker 7 (57:40):
One crying after a loss after your favorite team loses
as a fan, crying will you define?

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Crying BECAUSE i cry like, This, god we suck at.

Speaker 7 (57:48):
Everything, No i'm talking About i've seen actually my fans
cry Like i'm talking tears.

Speaker 5 (57:53):
All, Right so six years old is? Mine, yeah you
don't even have to be an. Adult if you're an,
adult you shouldn't be crying after your team.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
LOSS i know after. VICTORY i could see. THAT i
could see it celebration like a, tear a celebration er.

Speaker 6 (58:07):
You, know like a sadness loss Your pacers fan just.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Loss, Yeah i'm with. YOU i think if you're an,
adult you don't cry after a. LOSS i think a
cry after a win is a different feeling of different
emotions because you've experienced that with somebody or some years
you've spent after a. Loss it's, like, bro people are
at war right. Now, yeah there's a lot going, On
like people are hungry right, now and. NOBODY i don't

(58:31):
feel rage in my, life LIKE i don't ever get
too high or too. Low it's SOMETHING i go to
therapy for BECAUSE i don't feel that. OFTEN i THINK
i got numb from my early. Childhood it's just really
not having parents and having to, survive SO i don't
like look forward to. THINGS i don't have hopes for.
Things but also things don't affect me that much on
the bottom side either Where i'm just, like you're this
callous very much. So But i've really been trying to

(58:52):
work my way out of that with a lot of.
Therapy and that being, Said i've never experienced so much
RAGE i wanted to like punch, somebody OR i can
just be, like, Eh i'll move, on LIKE i might
triggered or competitive and want to kill. Somebody BUT i
never feel that rage where it's like throw something through a,
television except for When arkansas. LOOSE i was just about to,
say that's the only TIME i see red in my.

Speaker 5 (59:13):
Eyes i'm starting to think about, this and you've been
through some difficult circum just this.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Year it's just this. Year it's, awful AND i get
so rage. Filled BUT i now can understand what people
that feeling they get toward this general. Life and YET
i still have never. Cried that's my point at a.

Speaker 5 (59:32):
Loss so, yeah at a, loss like if you were gonna,
cry it was the other night for The World.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
Series that's a bad. One sweet sixteen was a bad.
One we can walk through the whole.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Thing.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Softball two players that can food. Poisoning my brother in
laws coach on the. Team we could do. Football the
thinking about football was stupid because we lose a Terrible
Oklahoma state. Game but then we Beat. Tennessee, again we
shouldn't have. Won that kept the coaches around. LONGER i
wanted to cry after. That, wait we, won but now
our coaches are going to be here. LONGER i still
have never cried because of a loss Because i'm an.

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
Adult, YES i just haven't cried Over, yeah as an,
adult have not cried over a.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
GAME i this might be. Human and again it felt so.
Weird but when my brother in law was not At,
arkansas he went To utah to be the hitting. Coach
it was his first job and he was hitting coach
and he took them to their first Ever College World.
Series and after they won the, GAME i got like
a tier BUT i think that was family for. Him
but deep, yeah, right that's.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
Yeah that's celebrating. Family the EMOTIONAL i never.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Even had that. Before you get the pass that you
get the.

Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
Paser, yeah all, Right so you did cry after a
whin though after When that's What i'm saying after when
it makes sense to. Me after, loss it's, devastating you feel,
helpless but at the end of the, day it's a
game and you didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Play, Yeah and it's weird to say that it's a
game because we invest so much of our, lives view
your career into, sports and it matters so. Much but
it only matters to a point after remind myself that sometimes,
YES i have to look in the mirror and, go
it's just a game and tomorrow the sun will come up. Again,
yeah as a, FAN i haven't done.

Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
It as a, player there's been emotional, games like when
my dad passed away and we went and played against
The raiders and Then Coach belichick brought the team up
and presented me with the game. Ball there was this
emotional release BECAUSE i hadn't really cried that week and
it all happened so, sudden where that's an emotional just

(01:01:21):
you know things are coming.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Out but like watching The.

Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
Dodgers, lose lose The World series or do something like,
that or The lakers or. Something i'm just, like that's
part of. Sports you're gonna, win you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
LOSE i also, think and you made a good, point
it doesn't even have to be the loss of. SOMETHING
i think if you work all. Season let's use The
pacers this last week when they lost their. GAME i
think if you, lose it's okay to cry a little.
Bit if you were the one, Playing yes as a, Fan, okay,
stop stand, up shake your, hands shake your, feet get

(01:01:53):
a little in your, extremities and then stop being a little.
Whimp it, sucks but don't. Cry but if you're like
McConnell and you've played your freaking face, off yeah you
deserve to. Cry that's. Okay i'm not gonna judge you
for crying if you actually played the game because you put, time, heard, soul,
uh your body into.

Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
This yeah it was a.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Grind, yeah BUT I i feel. Rage, MAN i punched the.
Couch my wife is never because, Again i'm never too,
high never too. LOW i will start punching. COUCHES i
would love to see you just have a complete. BREAKDOWN
i don't, don't you will never see. It and somebody
film this. PLACE i don't get around people WHEN i watch.
Stuff oh you have to watch by, yourself by. Myself
is it Only? Arkansas, yes, yeah Only. Arkansas, yeah, yes,

(01:02:35):
YES i mean there are bad beats and. Gambling but even,
Then i'm just, like of, course of COURSE i lost
Because i'm.

Speaker 6 (01:02:43):
Terrible, idiots generrible.

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
Jambler and they told me to bet that parlay and
it looked good and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
GREAT i had two out of the.

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
Three it was so.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Needy, Gosh i'm so.

Speaker 5 (01:02:53):
STUPID i just lost so.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Good THEN i just cried Because i'm a, loser not
even about the. Game all, right we're, Done thank you. Guys, Oh,
kevin we got to pick a? Book, yes did you
you want? To what do you? Think?

Speaker 7 (01:03:05):
SO i saw a few comments on there by the
way The. Jerseys they reached the, destination both of, them.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Both of all the way To. Germany let's go?

Speaker 6 (01:03:12):
There only three? Days?

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Really, yeah mail, man EVEN i, know.

Speaker 6 (01:03:17):
Let's look at Some i'm gonna pull some. Comments if
you just tell.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
ME i think what we should do is if you
just tell me how many there. Are i'll just pick
a number and that's the one we, do, okay because
then we're not judging based on creativity in the, comments
WHICH i never really wanted that to. Be bobby danced
with me was the, comment and they were all over,
it were. They, YEAH i don't know how many there,
are But i'm gonna pick number. Fourteen here we, go, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen.

(01:03:43):
Fourteen danny, says dance with, Me. Bobby last TIME i
tried to buy your Book Bear bones On, amazon the
COPY i wanted it was out of. Stock So, Danny,
danny let's Go danny dance with. Him, Yeah, DANNY i
Don't his name is Just danny from four days.

Speaker 8 (01:03:58):
Ago.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
KEVIN i don't know how you're gonna find. Him he's
gonna message, you but Message. Kevin kick Off. Kevin what's
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