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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to Love in Sight or Love keen Sight. Yes,
it's a hominem. It's a double entendre ever you want
to describe it. It is a podcast all about the show,
the global phenomenon known as Love is Blind, and over
the course of this podcast series, you were going to
learn everything you ever wanted to know, and likely a
whole lot that you had no idea even existed. We
will delve deep into every intricacy of this fantastic show,
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and we will do it with me Matt money Smith
of I Heart Media. And to my right, more importantly
is Janina Milady Jabeley correct straight out because uh, it's
the best name from the Love Is Blind Show. It
is the I think it's everyone's favorite person too. I
don't know if you're feeling that, but that's kind of
as someone who who lives with a woman who turned
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me on. My wife turned me onto the Love Is
Blind Show. We watched it together and I have three
daughters they all watch it. So this is very exciting
for me because I'm going to have high approval ratings
as a dad. So thank you for for all of that.
This is good for me what we're doing right now.
But Um, I do want to dig deep in this
first episode and understand, this is the official Love is
Blind podcast. You're going to hear from everyone. Uh And
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if you were to guess, who do you think most
people want? Obviously your first, everybody wants to hear from
you first, Ginina, But who do you think would be
the person everybody wants to hear from most over the
course of however, many episodes were going to do this
the coast of how many other episodes? Um the first person?
Just because it was so turbulent in the beginning. I
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don't know. I think Barnett is really funny, right, think
you'd be a good guest. Barnett will be great when
we get on. Barnet would be fantastic. Yeah, he would
just crack you up and tell you a little bit
about his love tripod that it was a little bit
more than that. We're gonna get into that because you
were in the girl's facility, so you got all of
the feedback is they're coming out of these pods and
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we're gonna get into girls talking pretty much. Things we
didn't see because each episode is only a out an
hour and you were there for how long we were
there for nine days, So you've got nine days, right,
nine it's worth of love and we got about ten
hours and you have nine days in the facility alone,
so very excited to get into what was said between
all of you that maybe the cameras didn't capture. So
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let's say Barnet's on like that end of the spectrum.
He's funny, He's going to be a great guest storyline wise,
who do you think maybe the most turbulent or I
don't want to say most controversial, but maybe somebody that
you can see of the people sam um with him
or her or I'm against him or her. I mean
my babe Jess. Yeah, she was just such. I think
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she was very honest and she was very brave, and
I think we've all been in that position at some point,
and it's you know, it's hard to be in that
position in such a public way. Um, But I think
she has a very interesting story to tell. So that
will happen as we progress through the course of our
Love Insight podcast series. But let's start. You said something
interesting there, you said, uh, my babe Jess. So how
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many of these people would you say you connected with
immediately when you got into the facility. So I'm more
of like a guy's girl, right, So I didn't know
that I was going to get along with all these
really beautiful women and we're all kind of dating the
same guys, But it ended up being such a great
sisterhood and every single girl in there we bonded together. Um.
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I was kind of that girl that everyone went to
for advice. Um, well, I'm I've always been that person.
So I just kind of calmed everyone down or or
told them, hey, like it's okay if he's a little
confused right now, but show him what you got. Um.
So that was really interesting. So that's uh, okay, that's perfect.
Set the scene. Let's go back to the beginning. How
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do you find yourself on Love is Blind? Where does
this all start? Right? So I was actually at a
bar with a couple of my girlfriends and I was
telling them how there's just no men for me in
the city. And at that moment, my phone blinked and
it was this d M saying, Hi, I'm kind sing
for this experience, and um, I've never gotten a casting call.
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I've always gotten like little collaborations and picked up the
phone give her a call. She told me so, uh,
you can fall in love with someone without seeing them,
and if you do, you get engaged and there's a wedding.
And so you knew quite a bit, Like you you
knew quite a bit about what the structure of the
show was before you even got in there, before Nick
and Vanessa even kind of shared, Hey, this is okay,
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So you go in knowing this is what the idea
behind Love is Blind is. So the whole premise of
the show is shared with me. And she told me
about this, and I was like, first of all, your
timing couldn't have been more perfect, because I had just
given up all hope. Um, and this sounds a little weird,
because but I'm a little weird, so maybe this can happen.
And I've already started falling for guys pretty much my
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whole roster, just based on the personality. Um, if you
look at their faces, there's I have no type, you
know what I mean. So I was like, Okay, this
could actually work for me. And I'm a very like
cosmic person. I would yell into the universe like I
want find the love of my life. And and then
this came and I was just like okay, sure, Like
I'm down for it. I didn't think that I was
ever going to get picked. I was just more curious
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about the process. Um and lo and behold, I'm here
with your exactly how did you get picked? So? How
many people are reading? Like what? What was? Well? First,
so you're out there available and to be cast in
TV commercials, modeling adds things like that, so they find
you through that method or like, no Instagram? So it
was through instagrams through Instagram? So how many are you?
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Like an Instagram model? Do you have fifty thou Instagram followers?
So they're like, hey, this will help our ratings kind
of stuff. No, it was very raw and real. I
had a thousand followers, thousand, just a thousand. The picture
that just a thousand. I mean that for me was great.
I was like, I haven't that's like friends and family,
like it is like nothing, you know what I mean
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to be to be selected? So they somehow found you
through your Instagram with just a thousand followers. Did it
seem weird at all? No, because I've I've been always
this this, yes, yes girl, you know, and um, I
found myself in really random situations and they always kind
of worked out for me, and so when this came
to me, I was just like, there you go again,
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universe like um, and so when it came to me,
it was very much like, all right, you're going to
do this. This is another thing that you have to
go through. I feel like I've lived many lives in one.
I mean twenty six. I was twenty five at the time. Um,
but you know, I kind of had to grow up
really fast at a young age. So um. Yeah. So
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they were just looking for real people trying to find love.
And at that moment, I had just gone through like
a five and a half year long breakup and I
saw the guy. The breakup took five and a half years.
Well that it was just one constant breakup, and it
felt like the relationship well, it was long distance. So
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I met him randomly on spring break with a group
of girlfriends and she was, hey, come to Daytona. I
was a freshman in University of Central Florida. Come to Daytona. Yes, um,
you're gonna You're gonna love the group of friends that
I have. And so I randomly went and the first
person that I saw was my then boyfriend of five
and a half years. And that's where we clicked and
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we were a long distance for five and a half. Like,
how long distance You're at Central Florida. He's wear Central Florida.
He was in Atlanta. Okay, he's pretty much the reason
why I moved to Atlanta. And so we were long
distance for three and a half years. Sorry, and then
for two of those years we were together and we
just kind of grow apart, and we were so young
when we met. Um but that was another cosmic, random
thing that happened to me and I fell in love unexpectedly.
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So I was like, this is probably another one of
those things. You're a big believer in fate, very big believer.
I think there's everything happens for a reason. So this,
you know, I think something that we've all and I
think it's fair that we jumped at these conclusions. When
we watch a lot of these shows, it's they just
want to be on TV. They just want to be famous,
They want to try to get this, you know, take
a shot and see if this thing catches on. And well,
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next thing, you know, I no longer have to work.
I'm now a celebrity and this can be my future
in an income or you know, the the income earning potential.
It sounds like that wasn't what this was for you,
Like you were looking at it more of I'm going
to meet someone and I'm going to get a relationship
out of this. Well, I'm going to meet someone or
if if it happens for me, it happens, and that's great.
But if I don't, then you know, I opened up
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my heart and that's great too, and maybe something, maybe
I'll find someone else because of this. For me, it's
always like you have your own path and whatever comes
to you have to just embrace it. Um. And we
had no idea that it was ever again going to
be a global phenomenon. Nothing, it's the first of its kind,
so um, we didn't have like a franchise to look
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back at and say, oh, this is how we should
act or this is what we should do and I'm
going to become this person because of it. I was
just going on because it felt like it was something fun.
And it's a great point because obviously every every subsequent
cast that now goes on Love is Blind is going
to recognize the celebrity power of it. Just let's just
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say it's a big it's a pie. Right, We've got
a pie here. What percentage of it was this is
a way to meet someone, and what percentage of it
was I'm going to be on a on a tel
and on a Netflix show? Like, how did that? How
did you reconcile that in your brain? What were you
thinking about when you agreed to do it? When I
agreed to do it, well, again, I didn't think that
I was gonna get cast it. So I was just
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being honest and Ron just saying whatever came to my mind.
And um, I really looked at it as a way
of finding someone. But I've always been like this intuitive
person where if I if you're going to receive love,
you have to learn how to accept it and to
love yourself. And so it was either going to be
a self a journey for myself in order to meet
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to find that person that is going to be on
that same vibe with me. So it was very much
of I'm going to meet this person or maybe I'll
find myself in this journey. But it was more of
like this self exploration that I looked at it, and
I happened to be on Netflix, and I know how
many shows are going on Netflix. Yeah, so it's like, Okay,
this could be at the bottom of the barrel. And
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that's okay too, Like there's no way that I thought
it was ever going to hit number one, that it
was going to be the number one show in the world.
And here we are talking, uh and it is. So
you mentioned Central Florida, you go there for college. Where
are you at before you're in Orlando. I was at
West Pump Beach, So I grew up in West Pump Beach,
but I was born in Venezuela. My family brought us
over when we were six years old. When I was
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six years old. Um, and you remember about Venezuela. I
remember everything it was from up until I don't mean
like going back to visit, but I mean when I
was six years old. I don't know what how that
got ingrained in my head, but I remember the smell,
the touch, the food, all the birds. Um. You know,
we lived in a penthouse and my dad had his
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own civil engineering company, so we had we pretty much
had everything. But because of that, we were targeted. I
was just gonna say, when we when we hear Venezuela
in America, of course we think about just matt rapid
inflation and and you know, dictators ship slash, you know,
just horrible leadership kind of thing. So was that Venezuela
when you were there, or it was the beginning of it.
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It was the beginning of that. So the beginning of
that and then into power. I remember seeing Chaves in
the TV when he was elected president and we were
when you were probably was like four years old, but
I remember seeing him on TV and um my mom
would get you held up at the preschool line just
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dropping us off in school. My our apartment would get
um block break broken into all the time, and all
my baby jewelry was gone, like everything, everything was just
taken away from us, and um my, A lot of
my family chose to stay, but I also had some
family in the States and we went to visit one
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time and my mom felt that this was the place
where she should raise her children. And my dad left
everything he did. So it's the it's the true kind
of American story, American dream where you leave everything behind
and you come to America to create a new life.
And what happens when you're so West Palm Beach your
way head family, so you have kind of a circle
of trust around you when you arrive, you have some
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comfort what happens with your family from there. So my
dad found um a great construction company, and he said,
you know, I brought my family over here. Is there
any way that you could help us survive? And um,
they were able to give him his visa and our
star visa. So we did everything by the book. And
looking back at it now, we are so lucky that
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that happened to us, because I've had friends that have
come from Mexico or you know, Columbia or all these
different you know, Europe and they're still not able to
get any sort of green card or visa or anything
like that. And the fact that we were able to
hit it at the right moment, at the right time,
with the right company, I'm just forever grateful and blessed.
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So you grow up, Do you speak English when you
come here? Yes? No, I didn't speak any English. Yes,
you have to learn English. You're at six, you're going
into like first grade and you have to learn English.
Was it tough? I actually I picked up on it
really quick because I was reading so many children's books. Um,
I've always been that like that. I would love to
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write growing up, remember like favorite kids books? Oh God,
I don't like dr seush books when they're like sometimes
I like the Girl Up in a Ball, Goodnight Moon,
thick books. Okay, so you're reading like Harry Potter books.
And right in high school I devoured those. But um, yeah,
so growing up I had so my older cousin, Um,
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she was like maybe like five years older than me,
and so I would get all her hand me down.
So she had like thicker books and I would just
I would eat them up. What about TV h TV? Yes,
actually it was more music for me. So I learned
Christina Guilera Britney spears, like all of those songs were
actually the first way that I learned how to communicate
and like learn expressions. Um. But because I was just
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kind of like immersing myself in it, I was able
to just really graduate from ESAUL in like two to
three months, and people are in there for like a year.
Because in the accent, it's it's remarkable that there's almost
zero's there's almost zero. You can barely hear it. Yeah,
it's well, my American accent is very much real. And
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then my when I speak Spanish it's done as well,
and it's thick and thrill exactly all right, there's all
the foreign language. We'll take a break right there. We'll
get into kind of the next stage of Ganina's life
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and again how she found herself on Love is Blind
is Love Insight continues. All Right, We're back with enough
from Love is Blind on our Love Insight podcast, and
we just kind of got done talking about your trip
to the States. Your family leaves everything behind in Venezuela,
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you come to Florida, you go to college, you have
a serious boyfriend for five and a half years, or
there's a three and a half year and a two
year breakup. I think is kind of how we put
it together. So it was five and a half years total,
three and a half years long distance, and then I
moved up in the same city so that we were
there for two And that's how they found you. Because
everybody's from Atlanta that is on Love is Blind, So
certainly he has a big part. And where you're at
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today because you moved to Atlanta, uh to be with him. Um,
what is your I guess what's your type of of man? Like?
What would you how would you describe it? You said,
if you look at your Instagram that there's so many
different faces that that physically there's really not much that
you could put your finger on that's that appeals to you.
But but how would you describe your perfect guy? Right? Well,
there aren't any male faces on my Instagram, um, but
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probably don't get a lot of likes. Well, I just um,
I've only had one serious boyfriend, um before this experiment,
and um during that. Like I found him when I
was nineteen years old. So I've always been like very
picky with who I let into my life. And it
wasn't like a certain look that I was looking for.
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It was just mainly can we get along? Can we
be best friends? Uh? Can we just do everything together?
And can you make me laugh? Um? Can you show
me a different part of the world or myself? I
just wanted someone to challenge me really, um, because I
know how tough I can be, and I wanted someone
that was able to balance me out and just kind
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of take away all those those guards that I was
able to build up. My parents got divorced when I
was starting when I was like twelve years old, so
I was very skeptical about love and not willing to
let just anybody in. So whoever was able to just
kind of touch me and like that that sole piece,
that's what I was looking for, And we're going to
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get into that in the later episode. Because your dad,
your biological dad, he seems super cool, like like Rico Swave. Uh.
He is right, because he didn't really say much, like
we didn't get a lot. He seems kind of like
just the dude that's standing in the back of the
room and then all of a sudden, wham, he's kind
of like right in front of you. So we're gonna
get into that later. Did you, like when you first
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got cast, you first agreed to do this, did you
have a mental picture of who you were going to meet?
Did you have and I like, did any of that
start becoming a reality? No? I wish I did, But
I think that because I didn't have that mental picture
of like, this is who I'm going to fall in
love with and if it's not them, then I'm done
with this. I was just very open with it. And
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you know, whether he was taller or in my height,
or had dark hair or blonde hair, I was just
really really looking forward to knowing this person and having
them know me, and I don't know, maybe having like
a really nice jawline. I love the job strong, strong, job,
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big back. You know, someone that's like strong and can
just like pick me up and toss me across the
room kind of thing. I'm looking over it there. Yeah,
I think that's a strong. Well, we'll see you know what,
and we're gonna talk to Damian in a later episode. UM,
So be sure to subscribe and make this easy on
yourself because we're gonna get a full Damian episode in
here as well. I don't know if I'm even gonna
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be part of that. I may just give him the
mic and let you two go at it. I was
floored at because normally when you meet people from TV,
they're much smaller, um, like, considerably smaller. He's huge, You're
what five? Yeah? So like I think you lose a
little bit of that um on the show. Um. And
we'll get into when we do the the episode one pod,
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like what happened to short guy Wesley? Like we we
just all we heard was he's the short guy who's
open to find love and then we never hear from
him again. So we're gonna get into that. See. So
that's the kind of stuff I can't wait to get into.
Um So, you mentioned you want a strong jawline. Uh,
you want someone who is it seems like kind of
bigger just strong strong, Yeah, strong, like athletic would be great,
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just because I am very adventurous. I love to sneak
into concerts, I love to go hiking. I love to
just do all these like fun random things. So if
he was a couch potato would have been that happening.
Come on, guy, did they did they tell you you're
not allowed to talk to them about how they look?
Did they? So you anything goes when you get Yeah,
but um, what's super interesting is you know I would
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ask some guys here and there because the way their voices,
you have a strong right, It's like, so tell me
the diameter? What's going on there? Square jaw right? I
got a butch in so yeah to my middle daughter,
she hates it, really should love it. Yeah, I didn't
like it for a while and then everyone's like, I
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love that little button like me too. Um, but after yeah,
so we would I would ask some of the guys like, so, like,
what do you kind of look like? What's your celebrity
look alike? But with Damien and I, we never asked
each other what we looked like, not not the slightest
physical attribute. So we heard from the grape vine. I
heard that, you know, Damien was like the strongest guy
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in the room and kind of beat everyone in a
push up contest. I was like, okay, so he's big, cool,
but those are push ups or they were practicing for
Keg Stands right right, I mean you seems like maybe
there was some keg Stands best based on the style
of push ups that he was doing. You want them all?
And then he heard that, so my celebrity looked like that,
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I've always gotten his Kate Upton works. Yeah, totally works.
So I so I told some of the guys, and
I guess he kind of heard of that, but we
never said, oh, like I have blonde hair, I'm this tall.
I think you even hear me in like the first
two episodes saying like Damien joked about being five four
and I told him. I was like, I wouldn't care
because I'm obsessed with you. Um, so that was really
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interesting how we just didn't ask each other at all, Right,
and then, UM give us an idea of like what
your first impression was when you walk into the facility,
like you you know, actually know what before we get
to that. Let's when you decide to do it, and
you're going to be gone for how long? They tell
you you're going to be gone for a minimum of
blank days? How long? So they tell you you're going
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to be gone for nine days, nine days. Tell your family,
we're going to take away all the devices. Um, you know,
he's an emergency contact number just in case. But if
you don't come back in the nine days, it's because
you got engaged. So it could be nine days extended
to to up to two weeks. Because after that we
had Mexico, right, and then you come back, you gather
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all your stuff and you move in together, and that's
another and that's another. We can start making contact, that's what. Yeah,
So after Mexico we were able to have our our
devices back and just kind of like tune in and
we actually didn't want to. We were like, no, like,
let's just kind of push it off. It was so nice.
It's nice cutting off. So when you tell your parents, hey,
I'm gonna be gone for for nine days, and it
sounds like you're very close with your family. Are they
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very protective of you? Um? They are, but I've also
been you know, on my own quote unquote living in
Atlanta for about four years now. Um, So what happened
was that they found me like mid September and the
experience started the beginning of October. So I really own
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I had very minimum town like amount of timeships September. September,
they find you October. You're sequestered for nine days in
the facility exactly. So you when when you appear for
the first time on screen, your name's on there and
underneath it it's as business owner. So as a business owner,
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I don't know if you want to share what business?
So what business do you? Because it was he was like,
Damien's a general manager. I'm like, of what of a
burger king? Like it's just such a generic general manager term.
Yours was a business owner? What business do you own? Well,
I think they were trying to just protect us. And
my job was very like out in the open. It
was very public. So a little background. I was actually
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at a corporate office. Um for about a year. I've
had many many a career change, which just because I
kind of if I don't feel fulfilled or if I
feel like I've been mistreated, then it's like cool, I
learned what I need to do and then I move on.
So I was at this corporate job for about a
year and they were I was hitting all my quotas
I was doing social media work, and they kept putting
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me down and putting me into an office telling me
how they disappointed they were in me because I was
five minutes later, two minutes late. Cool. It taught me
how to be punctual, but at the end of the day,
I wasn't valued. So I quit my job when one
of my best friends came towards me and she was like,
I want you to run this business with me, which
I had already you know, had experience with two years
prior um and I kind of went into the office
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one day and I was like, I'm done with you
and cut them completely off guard. And that's what allowed
me to really be on the show because I was
able to just kind of have that time and have
that camfidence. So at the time of the show, I
was managing three different locations in Atlanta where we would
sell and consult on hair products and straighteners. And you know, Wawns,
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I don't know how much you know, well, you do
have three daughters. I know how expensive the right hair
straighter exactly. It was a cramic all that good stuff. UM.
So I managed around twelve people. I was the therapist,
the mom, the sales consultant. I was literally every single
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thing to these people. Um. And I managed them all
throughout three different locations. So that's like another family. It
was another family. Yeah, they all looked at me like
I was their mom. I would bring them coffee, all
the all the fun stuff. So I was very much
running this business, um which I was there at twenty
four hours pretty much a day. If you're not plugged
in at the location, you're on your phone, just hyping
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these people up, giving them advice to him, No, keep going.
I'm leaving for nine days. And yeah we for nine days,
and my business partner kind of freaked out, um, but
she was just very supportive. UM And I didn't know
I was gonna be gone longer than that. I was
going to say, so you can't tell her that you're
not only gone for night, Like you can't reach out
and say, by the way, nine days is now turning
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into two weeks. No, But I told her, I was like,
if I'm not back, yeah, if I'm not back, but
nine days, can you handle this? For two weeks and
she was like, yeah, do your thing. Um, so she's fine,
what about mom and dad? Mom and dad? So I
told them like, very short time frame just because I
didn't have a long short time frame a long time
frame either, but um, I told them, Hi, I was
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in person because I wanted to be in person for
so I flew down to Florida. We had a big
family gathering and told them I am going away for
nine days. It's I promise you, I'm not going to
be kidnapped. It's a show that you can find love
or um, you know, if it happens for me, it
happens for me. In great. My parents were so supportively
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because I'm a probably dad even had I'm a product
of my parents and they're just as fun, lighthearted, spontaneous
as I am. And I don't really think that they
were surprised at all. Do they watch any shows like
you know, just to fall in love on TV shows? No,
they don't watch any of those, but right, and I
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didn't watch any either, So I was never not aware
of like how editing can make somebody appear and well
I'm not completely blind intended to it, but I didn't
watch any of like dating shows. I didn't know, like
what made like good TV or what made like someone
fall in love with you. I don't I didn't know.
I don't care. Um, but I did watch like fun
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stuff growing up, like Top Chef. Those are my type
of reality shows. A bunch of foodies. Um. But they
were super supportive. The food was actually great. They had
so much, so many different options. I lost like five
pounds while I was in there, not because I wasn't eating,
but I think just because I was, like I went
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into the state of just like constantly like thinking and
being aware. Maybe my body tapped into something. I don't know.
But the food was awesome. Um, they had like vegan options.
They it was breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Um. Some booze
just chilling, it turns out, at least as far as
the editing goes a lot of boost chilling all the time.
But I'm sorry I stopped you when you were talking
about your parents. Your parents are totally supportive. And what
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did you have any like kind of candid, honest conversations
with mom or dad about you know, I feel like
I feel good about like I have a weird feeling
about this. I really think this this might turn into something. Yeah.
So I went to them and they were they were
actually giving me the UM. My mom is also very intuitive, UM,
and she she was like a model back in Venezuela
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and everything, and she just kind of saw it as
I guess she was kind of like living through me
in a way. And she just told me, she was like,
this is for you. You're going to find the love
of your life. I feel it. Go and I have
an extended family, right, and so some people were supportive,
some weren't. But the fact that my parents where I
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was like, this is all Um, it's just like just
like cousins and you know people that have seen reality
TV shows and that no. So, but it was always about, UM,
we want the best for you, and we don't want
you to put yourself in a situation that's not going
to you know, show you in a good light. And
we know how crazy you can be. UM. And I
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was like, you know what, just trust me. I'm a
grown woman. Just trust me. But I had my parents backing,
and that's that's what made the best. So let's get
to the park where you arrive and you start the show. Um,
did you know the girls before? Did you arrive at
the facility at the same time. Did you get to
meet them one by one as everybody trickles in, like
how does the facility work? Yeah, so everyone kind of
trickled in. Um. I didn't know anyone through mutual friends
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or anything, so it was very much like, oh my god,
did anybody meet you? Um? I think I heard some
chatter about like, oh you know that so and so.
I was just again like I'm not a girl's girl.
So I was just very much, um in my own space.
But everyone kind of trickled in and um, they kind
of like lined us up and up. Yeah. I was like, okay,
you're about to go into the facility, and I was
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the first one in the whole road was first line. Um.
And then you get to pick like your own room.
Then is it like a sprint for I want this
you know? Yeah, it's like a big strety house, right. Um.
So we just kind of told to walk in and
that's literally the first thing that you see is me
walking into this facility and just being like, wow, this
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is the recreation super cute. Um. But it was just
very much like a surreal feeling. Are you sharing a room? Yes?
You are? So you have how many roommates one one
who was your roommate? Um, I had a couple. So
I had two roommates. One was Lexi and the other
one was Lauren. Okay, so did you bond with them
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right away? Did you not like them? I actually moved
because you guys hated each other. No, nothing like that. UM,
I think I don't know. Maybe they just wanted to
make things interesting. But with Lexi, we just kind of
like bonded right away. I love her sense of fashion,
so that's how we bonded. And then Lauren and I,
she's just like this quirky, like funny soul, and um,
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I was able to just kind of like find pieces
of myself and every single girl and every single person.
And yeah, me and her were just super funny, like
trying to like jack the system and get some music going,
but we really couldn't. So and and by the way, again,
next episode of the Love Inside Podcast, we're gonna get
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into episode one. So we're gonna get into like I said,
what happened to Wesley, this guy who's a thirty one
year old virgin. That's how I got that broadcast we
never hear from again, Like we're going to get into
all of that um but but so let's so I
don't want to get too deep into Lexi and and
Lauren and just kind of get more your experience. Is
your going through this um early? Is there anyone you
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didn't like? Was there anyone that maybe just didn't like?
The vibe wasn't right? Because how many girls are in
there when you first show up? So of the fifteen
was there because I'm not gonna it's fifteen people, of
course someone's gonna be kind of the odd person out.
Did that happen? And where's or were there clicks? It
was like like how how did that happen? So I
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went in there with the mindset of being the peacemaker.
So even though like some girls, personality was like no
surprise Amber, it was very strong. I wasn't going to
like Amber. Seems like she talks a lot too. But
Amber talks a lot about Amber, right like that's it's like, oh,
that's great, that's great for you, you you know what I mean?
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But again, I'm just looking at one hour. You've got
nine days, so you can maybe speak to to that differently. Well,
I really like to see the reason why people talk
about things. So no one tells you something unless they
want you to know it. And that's the mindset that
I went into it. It's like, Okay, if this person
is telling me about this, like why and maybe there's
a reason why I can how I can help them
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or just let him go through this process. And um,
I again, like I went in there being the peacemaker.
I would hear some things of like like I don't
really like her, and I would just be like, I
love her. I think she's great. I think she's hilarious,
And that kind of set the tone, I think, because
no one would really say like, oh, I don't really
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like I'd be like, Okay, she's great, and that would
kind of open people's mind of like, well, why, like, yeah,
she is kind of funny. Actually, um that's initially. Now
when guys start getting involved and this multiple girls start
liking the same guy, I would assume that changed. Well,
as we well know, and we're going to get into
again the whole Jessica Amber stuff down the line that
seemed to be the worst case. How much of that
was there, by the way, I want you to give
(32:49):
up too much right now, but how much like hey,
that's like, was there anyone else that was into Damien. Yeah, actually, yeah,
he's one that told me I didn't know, like nobody
shared with you when they came back, like, I'm really
into this guy. So Amber, I think the first couple
of dates was just like, Damon's really cool, and I
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was saying, Barnett's really cool, and it's funny that we switched.
So you were you felt like, so, if it's a
if it's a horse race and we're coming out the
first turn here, Barnett's ahead. Yeah, I was like, because
way ahead. He was my first date. He was, Yeah,
he was my first date, and he just made me
laugh and I was like, this is someone that I
could just chill with and in a random pot and
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without anything around me, and that's great. So I kind
of went out there and being like boom, first one,
I got it. That's it. It's Barnett, and that's what
you were looking for. You were like, Hey, this is faith,
this is a universe screaming at me, Oh my gosh,
it's my first date. I've met my soul mates exactly right,
and it was so wrong. Did you, um, did you
feel like you went in with your more, with your
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guard up kind of protecting yourself, like I gotta you know,
because you're I don't know if this makes any sense,
but for whatever reason, I am not in a mootional person,
but I find myself emotionally vulnerable on planes and I
don't know what it is, and I can't if I
am watching a movie, I mean, like you know, Princess
Diaries or something, I'll be crying. So it's just it's
is there some of that to this experiment that like
you do feel a little bit more emotionally vulnerable than
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maybe you might on the outside because you're away from
your friends and your family, uh all alone kind of
to to sort through your emotions. Yeah, So I found
myself being in a place where it's like no one
knows me. I can be me, I can say whatever
I want to say, like I'm not here to really
impress anybody, even though it's like the whole point of it.
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That's interesting because I would assume a lot of people
are like I can reinvent myself, like my past no
longer exists. I can now be whatever I want to be.
People see straight through that. So what was the percentage
of the girls that you think did it that way
versus kind of were themselves. It was probably I think
the people that made it through were able to just
be completely themselves and be vulnerable because they made genuine connections.
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If you were able to kind of fake your way through. Jessica,
she was so honest. I could not disagree more. To me,
it felt like she was the most fake of all
the people there. Yes, like, you're like, I genuinely believe
you when you say you came into this because the
universe screamed that you that this was going to be
for you. Jessica was the exact opposite. I look at
her and I'm like, that girl just wanted to be
(35:22):
on TV. She only agreed to get engaged because she
wanted to stay on TV. And that's all that all
right Now I'm getting too, It's okay. I mean, we
can definitely talk about we'll get through that and I'll
show you my perspective. Say, I'm guessing you probably have
a little bit more insight than I do. UM, So
we'll leave it there, gee, because when we see I
just called you get see there we go. Now we're
already getting comfortable. When we come back, we're gonna do
(35:43):
a game that we will do in every single episode
of Love Insight, Love is Blind or hard pass? You
okay with that? Oh that sounds good. All right, we'll
do that next. Alright, gee ready, we're going to get
right into this. It is love is Blind or hard pass.
Here's how it works. Uh, this will be something that
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is a physical feature, attribute a style, something your your
future partner does or is. And you only get one pass.
So you say love is blind. You're good. You you
finally meet them, they have this characteristic or hard passes,
you see them and you're like, now I'm out, it's over. Alright,
only one pass? Alight, all right, here we go. Cartoon
(36:30):
animal tattoo Love is Blind? Right? Does Damian have a
Does he have like a taz that I got? The
one with the tots I'm the one with We're gonna
get into that. By the way, I just discovered that
you do have a tattoo that I was not aware
of before. You have to Yes, we saw one, I
think regularly. Yeah, and we saw one briefly. Uh. Flip
(36:53):
flops or slides with socks? I hate both? But love
is blind A mama's boy. Love is blind. That's sweet snoring.
Love is blind? Eye snore right, Uh micro penis, hard pass. Okay,
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now you only get one and here and here's the
last one. Doesn't want kids. Oh oh you're good, I guess.
But now you it's just all recreational. It's you're not procreating, right, alright,
hard pass on the kids, or or how about this,
(37:40):
I'll let you have a do over. Those are the
last two micro penis. But he can impregnate you or
no micro penis. But there are so many things that
you could do in the bedroom, So let's do hard
pass on the mic on the kids. Look at that. Yeah,
it's okay as a micro penis got a chance. Not
(38:00):
with me? Though, how how much or how often did
the kids thing come up in the pods, because I
mean that's really long term thinking. That's not like I'm
kind of attracted to you. But was that something that
you found to be pretty regular with everybody that you
talked to? Yeah, everyone wanted to know. But because when
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you ask someone do you want kids, that shows like
a part of their character, like are they going to
be a man that is going to provide for his
family that is going to you know, want like a
long term thing with you, Because if you're like I
don't really want kids. It's like okay, so like do
you want to travel? Like what what's going on? Or
like you can't have kids. So every single person pretty
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much wanted to know, especially me. It's just like do
you want a family? Because you know, I come from
come from a lot of Spanish influence. So we got
we got a couple of us running around what what
about fat? Like, did you when you're talking through the pods,
did you picture like what did you picture? Did you
pick your faces? Did you picture what they're wearing? Like
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what was your mind's eye kind of drawing for you
pictured everything? And to just to give you a little
insight of my experience in the pods, I developed a
sixth sense where I was able to because I wasn't
able to touch, I wasn't able to smell, I wasn't
able to see, and so I kind of developed this
like awakening where my like my third eye was just
(39:29):
kind of seeing straight through that wall and being like
because of this voice, because of this you know, vibe
energy that I'm getting, this person has to be tall,
or this person has to be you know a little
goofy or has curly hair, has light eyes like I
was just really just picking up on so many different
innuendos that you don't necessarily do when you're in person
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or when you're over the phone or when you're talking
you know, online. It was very much like I'm trying
to see straight through this wall, and um, I picture
everyone's like style. I think I got Barnett pretty like
pretty spot on, just because he was just like this
fun like goofball and I was like, okay, and I
saw him all that. That's a guy. It's like his
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shirts wrinkled, he's got a or something. You know, he
might learn that right, super laid back. So what did
you visualized Damien? Is visualized Damien as just like this.
I pictured him with like a button down and like
these nice like clean shoes and just someone that was
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very like simple but put together. Um, someone that smelled
good because he was delicious. Naturally, you're like he wears
Colone naturally. You know when you're attracted to someone's breath? No, No,
everybody attracted someone's breath. No, like they're bad breath like everything,
like just their breath like that's the that's that's the essence.
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Does he chew a lot of gum? Does he So
you mean just naturally naturally I've never heard that before.
I love. The smell of breath is just like, ye,
what's it smell like? It's like a spring day or
is it like? Is it? Is it fruity? Is its wilderness?
Is like a hike in the woods. It's like earthy
like love, just like musk delicious, just like this delicious.
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I think that's a pretty good way to describe him.
He is kind of a musky musk dude. Yeah, musky
dude kind of guy. Um, what about tattoos? Oh yeah,
tattoos are fine. Did you expect that he had? No?
I mean, did you think that he would have tattoos
or did you ask him? No? I didn't. I didn't
really ask him the most physical appearance, but I have tattoo.
So I was like, if you have a couple, that's
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totally fine. I mean, if you had to sleeve, that
would have been kind of sexy. Yeah. I would have
been like, Okay, what have he's got a chest piece
of like a ferrari or something. Okay, we're gonna get
that removed. We're gonna get it masked with like something,
my face, my name, something. What if he had his
own name tattooed on him. Tell me the story behind that,
then we can discuss. But that's a little bit. What
are your tattoos? My tattoos? Uh? So I have one
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on my left wrist. And this was when I was
going through a period of self discovery and I was
really happy with like my body for once in my life. Um,
and I got drunk with my girlfriends and went to
a tartoo parlor and I was obsessed with bows because
I had this. I had this blog at the time
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called Tie It with a Bow, and the whole premise
behind it was, if you're going to share something with
the world, or if you're going to um express yourself,
tie it nicely, package it up nicely with a bow,
and then present it to the world. And now we've
learned something that was not explained on the show. Wasn't
well I was. I talked about it, but it wasn't
in there. But but yeah, so like when you guys
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got engaged, you he puts a bow around your and
then of course, but he didn't know that I had
this tattoo, had no idea. Um, I think I did,
but I wasn't. I didn't I wasn't like, oh yeah,
I have this tattoo on my left wrist and it's
so interesting because he put the bow on his right
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wrist and he told me. He was like, I have
a bow on my wrist and I was like, and
I showed it to the camera when I was no
idea that this was here. That was more of the
universe is yelling at you. The universe was yelling, and
I picked up the phone and I was like, this
is happening. And then I had one in the back
of my neck and it's the sun and the moon.
And again I had falling out with a friend, someone
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that I grew up with, and we randomly met again
and I went to tattoo parlor and got matching tattoos.
And this was just because I felt like the like
the universe was like in line with me. And I
speak so much about the university. Are probably so bored
of it, um, but it's my thing. And I felt like, okay,
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like I am more I'm supposed to be at this moment,
even though sometimes I don't want to be. This is
where I'm meant to be. Did you ever think you
weren't supposed to be? There? Was there any point there
was of those nine days, there was never a moment,
not one second. What about in the pods? Was there
ever a moment when you're like, I gotta get out
of here. Because we saw a little bit of that
where people just got up and walked out. It seem
like there were a couple of creeks. Well, I mean,
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you know, if you haven't one dude, there's the one
dude who was like thirty eight year and again we're
going to do this in episode two. Yes, the CEO,
so John. We got like all of like eight seconds
of John in episode one. It was his only appearance,
but it's so weird because they decided to leave him
in for a good reason. Sorry John, but like you
asked some really horrible questions. I mean for me, he
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was like, what happened if I told you that you
couldn't that I didn't like fake boobs, or like that
you couldn't have plastic surgery. And I'm like, I'm from Venezuela.
Every single one of my family has faked I have
fake boobs. You can't tell me what I can and
cannot have. And I was like I'm done, and that
was it. You walked out well, I didn't walk out.
I was just like I told him off and I
was like bye boy bye. Right. How many of those
(44:53):
were there? Like five? Five? Because one was like trying
to like schmooze me, like just being like, well, you
have such a sexy once cart. No, his name is
Mikey Mike. Oh so we don't even know Mikey. We
don't know Mike. Okay, so we never even saw Oh boy,
there we go, tell me more. All right, So you
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got that. So you had the one John was a
total creep and we got to see him. Uh, the
one who said you sound like you're an African American?
That was the That was John. He said that to Lauren.
I believe right, isn't that right? John? Yeah? That was
John the cringe pod. We should do that, man. Yeah,
I'm sorry. I don't know him, so I don't want
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to like dump on him. But it's just like you're
really gonna this is like putting your best foot forward
or at least trying to get to know this person.
And these are the things that you're trying to ask,
like that's what you're supposed to do. He didn't have
feet to describe it. Ye, So you had five. We
got Mikey who tried to smoothe you John, who else?
Uh like just your least interesting pods at least interesting pop.
(46:00):
So yeah, Kenneth wasn't like my super interesting person. John
definitely wasn't. Mikey definitely wasn't out. Carlton wasn't like my
vibe either. UM. I think those are like the ones
that I remember the Mokay, we'll do more of that
an episode two. You're not gonna want to miss that again.
Subscribe that way you'll get all of this and the
next one. I'm going off the rails here that's supposed
to be setting the scene, pouring the foundation will frame
(46:23):
this house in the next episode and the one after that. Um.
But as you can tell, I just get excited because
there are these little moments that they did a masterful
job of giving you, these little nuggets of these people
like see and I just said I was gonna move on,
and I'm not uh like the uh where oh the
uh the girl that uh said it's not the motion
of the yosha but she needs like a very large donor.
(46:44):
You know. She was like, Hey, remember I don't remember
her name. That's the only thing we saw of her,
that's all she said. It's like, really, you're in this
episode for no other reason than saying, yeah, I need uh,
I need a big penis. That's that's what I'm into.
Who was it? Yeah, I could that coming from Ebeny.
She knows what she likes. Ya, it's all we saw
her though, Like that was the like, it's so so
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tell me about Ebony then, because we don't know anything
about her. All right, I've just been given the signal
next episode. Uh, this is this has been enough. I've
tried to talk far too much about what has to
come in the future. Subscribe download We will do all
of that. We'll get to Ebony. We'll get to uh
guy who's a virgin guy. We're gonna get to John,
the weirdo CEO, the mitigator who seemed like a complete nightmare,
(47:31):
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