April 28, 2020 • 21 mins
Take a trip with us to Sexico.
Sex was on everyone's mind in the pods...especially Giannina's and she's telling all.
She's revealing all the intimate details about her relationship and the others.
Giannina and Damian of course, Kenny and Kelly's sex life and Mark's sexless situation.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
All right, this is the Love Inside Podcast, and this
is the episode I think that's going to probably get
the most traction. G as I am joined by Giannina
and I am at money Smith. If you have not
checked in with us before, but chances are you have,
because we've been down quite the road as we recap
the Love Is Blind Experiment series production that you can
watch on Netflix, the most popular show in the world
(00:27):
right now as we are recording this G. But we
decided to call this Sexico, and very rightly, so yes,
exactly you are. I would say if there was well,
I don't know, between you and Amber, I'm trying to
figure out who the poster child the Sexico would be.
But we're gonna go with you because you're sitting here
with us right now and you can get into it.
So let's start with um, the timeline. You're in the
(00:50):
pods for nine days, you show up in Mexico on
day ten, day eleven, I think we're in the pods
for a ten days total. Since nine days we were
like together, like pottying and potting, and then on the
tenth day, on the tenth day, I think is when
(01:14):
we actually saw each other. But we were only there
for like half a day and then boom out. And
then on the twelfth day, on the twelfth day we
love was blind. You had sex with Damien. Actually, I
was like, um, so there's let's let's obviously start with
the sex that you're most familiar with, yours. Um he
(01:38):
seemed genuinely surprised by it. Yeah, had was that something
you were thinking about on the top all the time
in the pods, just like this is how this is
going to go? Did you know? But you didn't know
you were going to Mexico. No, I didn't know I
was going to Mexico. But I knew that I was
going to have sex with him as soon as as
soon as you had some time alone together. Um, well,
I wanted to feel it out right. I'm not you know,
(02:01):
I'm not this like twelve year old. I know that
a big part of a relationship is that sexual chemistry,
and so part of me wanted to have sex with
him so that I knew like whether we vibed and
you know, if this was going to be a fun
relationship or not. And um, I think, yeah, that's pretty
much what I want to have sex with him. And
then the obviously it was because I'm super attracted, but
(02:21):
I um, I was very like demure. You know, I
don't I don't go around asking like so what's your
favorite position? And like what do you like to do
in bed? But you know I would I would ask
questions of like, you know, how would you treat me
like an intimate situations multiple guys. You have this conversation
with just with Damien and Taylor since there are my
(02:42):
top two. Um, and then from there I was like, Okay,
I like the way that you know, Damian is so
respectful and he's a gentleman and little didn't know I'm
a freaking the sheets, but no, he thought, you know,
I was. He was very respectful all the time. I'm
not going to do anything you don't want to do.
And I was like, wow, I really want to um.
(03:05):
And he wasn't expecting that from me because maybe he'll
tell you, you know, he thought I was just like
the sweet, like innocent girl, and again you don't really.
He did say though that he knew there was like
that fire with Latina's side. Yes, that he recognized that,
but then you were super sweet. So that's where that
came out a little bit of everything A little bit
of everything. Um. When when you mentioned it to him,
(03:26):
we saw his genuine reaction seemed to be one of surprise.
Do you think he was genuinely surprised that it was
going to happen that quick? So you had not had
any conversations with him, like on the flight, because you
gotta flight. What's the flight five hours to get down
there or something? Five hour flight. But you know, neither
of us was like, oh, let's join the mile high
club or anything. We were just getting to know each other,
holding hands like kiss saying nothing like, no discussion about
(03:48):
how are we gonna deal with the room and sleeping
in the same bed, like, none of that was brought up.
I mean, it was just like, Okay, well, I hope
we have the same room. I want to cuddle with
you like I want you know, I love how big
you are, like your arms and guys, get your head
out of the gutther um. So that was just, yeah,
that was a very just normal conversation like, oh, like,
(04:09):
I hope you got a room together. I don't want
to be apart from you. I finally get to see you,
I finally get to touch you and smell you. Like,
let's just spend every moment together, and we were both
kind of like sid eyeing each other like, hmmm, I
wonder when we'll be able to have a loan time.
What what about what the other girls? When you guys
knew you were getting out of there, did you guys
have talk conversations about that with Amber? With with Lauren,
(04:30):
the girls are very open about like, oh, like, well,
I would say, I hope he like picks me up
and tosses me across the room, you know, like that's
what I'm looking for. And um, Amber was just very
open about you know that she's just like this wild
free spirit and like can't wait to tear Barnett's clothes off.
And so I think we're all just like like having
(04:52):
fun and having just girl talk, and maybe we're a
little bit more like raunchy than the guys were, right,
I think. Well, and I think the most surprising not
that it's not surprising that that you were, but I
think it's Lauren is with because just can't I think
it's probably because of the personality and the demeanor of Cameron,
the idea that that Lauren's just going to attack him,
(05:12):
and that's kind of what it sounded like was sort
of the their relationship worked out that way? Is that accurate?
I don't know, you know, but I've just been talking
to Lauren in the way UM I think that they
definitely match each other and how they like to talk
about their private life, and I think they're both very satisfied. Right,
(05:32):
And then what about Kent. What do you think happened
with Kenny and Kelly? We're all trying to figure that out,
so as far as I know, and she talked about
it publicly. As Kelly was was was never able to
reach climax, So I think that was a big part
of their relationship, and I think there was a lot
of pressure put on that um one act and probably
(05:55):
she didn't give him a chance to do so. Well, No,
that's not fair, because they were able to a lot
of things that didn't have sex you can reach, So
you don't think they because we're all trying to figure
that out. When you watch the way that conversation went
in the Sexico episode, Kenny basically says I couldn't go
for a run in the morning the way you know,
and and then Mark. The interesting thing is Mark then
(06:16):
comes on and says, man, everybody had sex with me. Yeah,
the only guy that got left out. Yeah, you're right.
So it's as far as all the girls new, Kelly
had not had sex with Kenny. Kenny and Kelly had
not had sex since told the wedding. To this day,
they had never had sex. So I don't know if
it's like a guy talk or he's like, oh yeah,
I wasn't able to walk well because she gave you
(06:36):
like a you know, good handy like I don't know,
like what's gone on there? Um, but uh yeah, a handy.
Oh yeah, I don't want to picture. No, no, no no,
I don't want that image in my head. Um, yeah,
I don't. I don't. I'm I'm a fen believer that
they haven't had sex, but there's a lot of speculation
out there. Maybe they did. I'm not. I'm not in
(06:57):
their bedroom. What about that little round table that you
had that you could sort of feel the awkwardness of
Jessica involved in that conversation with all of you. What
was that like to be in the middle of then? Right? Well,
I mean everyone can, you know, explore each other at
their own pace. I hadn't had sex in like a
(07:18):
year at that point, so and I was open with
my girls about it UM because it was something that
I didn't know whether I should tell Damian or not
and whether that was going to affect your relationships. So
in the pods they were able to say, like, yeah,
tell him, Like, what's the big deal. I'm like, you're right,
what were you? What you were afraid of what? I
don't know. Maybe he would think I was like a
prude or you know someone that just like wasn't, you know,
(07:41):
like into sex, And it's just like, well, that's not me.
I can't speak for all guys, but if someone tells
you that they haven't had sex for a year and
a half, and you're the one they want to have sex,
but that's totally fine. It's a good side. So, like
(08:04):
I said, there's one outlier in this group, and it's
Mark and Jessica. How how much interaction are you having
with them? After there, you guys are all reintroduced to
one another. So I think Mark and Jessica were the
couple that we were closest to UM. Not necessarily in
Mexico because we all had our own UM adventures and
(08:25):
dates and things like that, but in the apartments we
were both very close with each other. Um, did you
think it wasn't gonna work? Because here's that that's kind
of what's you know, when you're in Mexico, you're doing great,
and Lauren and Cameron are doing great, and and obviously
Amber and Barnett are doing great. Kelly's you know, it
seems like she's just being honest, like, hey, we're we're
(08:47):
going step by said, And then Jessica was the only
one that was like, I don't know, well, because maybe
she just wasn't attracted to him. That's kind of what
I'm getting net, you know. And so it's like, if
you're attracted to the person, you have sex with them.
If you're engaged physically hopefully right, if you're physically attracted
to the person, you know, that's just where humans. We
want to procreate, we want to have sex with each other,
(09:07):
and we're gonna get married. We need to know if
the deed is good. Um, but I think that because
she wasn't physically attracted to him, she was like, I
have no desire to have sex with you. And I
think she was pretty honest with that in terms of
in terms of the other girls, though, Um, I guess
let's get to Kelly then, and kind of did you
ever have any extended conversations with her about kind of
(09:29):
her struggles and what she was you did. Yeah, yeah,
So she opened up to me, um like later on,
like around our bachelor at um. And you know, she
told me she was having a hard time just kind
of getting physical with Kenny because there was this thing
in her past that she wasn't able to ever achieve
with any other male partner. Um. And you know, I
(09:52):
think that let me just talk candidly here, when you
are having sex and you are putting so much pressure
on like oh my god, I need I need orgasm
and need orgasm, you just don't right, Like you were
just so focused on it that like your head is
is in that mindset and you just can't have an
orgasm because you're focusing on it. But as long as
like you relax and you just put your mind off
(10:13):
of it and you like enjoy the moment, then I
think you figure out that you can. So I'm not Kelly.
I'm not going to speak for her. I don't know
how her body works. You know, we all have our
different spots here and there, um, But I think that
there's just a lot of pressure based off of you know,
her her past, that she wasn't able to let Kenny
in in that way for um, you know you were
(10:35):
talking about I don't want to think I was a prude,
but I guess I'm you know, I also don't want
people listening to think like, wow, these people are just
having sex all over the place kind of share with
the you know, we said it, We've used the word before,
just the expedited process of a relationship. Did you feel
like you waited a long time to have sex with
Damien because of how much you had shared with him emotionally,
(10:55):
and yet there had not been this sort of consummation
of the relationship with you with the physical act itself.
Did it feel weird that you had not had sex
yet even though you got to know him so well
and connected with him emotionally. Well, it let me kind
of rephrase that, so it was it was weird that
I hadn't touched him period, you know, So the fact
(11:17):
that you know, we hadn't had sex yet, Like I'm
I'm a very like, let's get to know each other,
then I'll allow you into you know, the temple that
is my body. Um, And that's just kind of how
I operate, but the fact that we hadn't touched, we
hadn't seen each other's faces, like that was weird as
how um. And then once I saw him and I
was like, okay, I'm into you, then I was just like,
(11:39):
there's no time to waste. We're engaged, we love each
other obviously, let's just you know, like really consummate the
relationship where it's like, yep, we're together. And then was
that all Mexico was Mexico just one giant sex fest.
I can see how how people would see that because
(12:00):
we all we got was really an episode and a half,
and that's what it seemed like. Yeah, I mean, well
we did a lot of things, you know. We we
went on trips, and we went on helicopters and boats
and things like that. But I think everyone was just
looking forward to seeing their partner and yeah, having sex
with them, because that's just I mean, that's like part
of the fun of being in a relationship, Like oh yeah,
(12:21):
I can booty call you whenever I want, Hubby, you know,
like you you don't want to, I don't care, let's
come here. So it's just, yeah, we're all just super
excited to like touch each other and like kiss each
other and just like be all over each other. It
was a pretty honeymoon on and that's what you do
on your honeymoon and you just have sex. Well and
I and I bring it up because you also, you
still didn't have any of your uh connected advices. Right
(12:43):
when you're in Mexico, you still don't have all the
distractions that would maybe keep you out of bed or
keep you from engaging with one another. All we had
to do is just staring each other's eyes. That's really it.
And a couple of adventures, yeah, a couple of adventures,
a couple of telescopes, you know, but it was just, yeah,
like truly being intoxicated with each other and just like
(13:06):
forming this physical relationship after such an emotional connection. And
it was just like is this the full package? Like
so it was very much a physical experience in every
sense of the word. Was it um I'm trying to
think of how to phrase this without stand super creepy?
Was it better because you are more immersed with the person,
(13:29):
with the individual, and you don't, you know, when you're
in the I mean, like I think any most most
people listening can relate to the fact when you're in
the middle of it. Sometimes your phone buzzes and you
hear it and you get distracted while you should be
completely focused on your partner. Did you sense that it
was a lot better in that environment when you don't
have the phone that's sitting right in front of you
buzz and all the time a hundred and fifty thousand percent.
(13:52):
So has it changed the way you kind of maybe
think about those moments? Now? Will you do you just
power your phone down and throw it away or I don't,
you know, I should, but I don't. And that's when
it's just like, and Damien does a really good job
of just like, you know, putting me in that mindset
where it's like, throw away your phone, turn off the
lights like your mine. And it's good because I'm you know,
(14:15):
I can think about a million things at the you know,
all the time. And so I would highly suggest to
just kind of, you know, if you're really going to
connect with a person on such an intimate level, like
make sure you're all there. And you know, we all
struggle with it. I still struggle with it. But going
back to that time, it's like, Wow, I was just like,
(14:36):
you know, enveloped by you and our you know, our
our beach and our hotel room. And I wasn't thinking
about anything but you at that time, and that was
just really nice. And I bring it up because I
think to the apartments when you have that moment with
Damien and you basically say, are you satisfied? Because I'm not?
You think that's more less physical? Was it less physical
(14:57):
and more the world around you hit changed and you
wanted to try to get back to what you had
had prior to coming back and reintroducing all these other
things in your life. Yeah, I think that's a great question. Um.
I wouldn't doubt that that's that external factors like being
back at my job and you know, being connected back
to the real world did affect my sex life with him.
(15:20):
And then also you know, I was trying to figure
out like is this you know, is this is this
the way that like it was just kind of getting
into the rhythm of things. Um. And again, maybe not
having sex for a year affected that too. I don't know,
but there was definitely a lot of noise that was
(15:42):
affecting my sex life. And that's also why I wanted
to talk to Damian about it, because I was like,
I know it can be great. We know it can
be great, and you think it's fantastic, and I know
that it can be fantastic too, but there's something that's
blocking me. So like, what is it? Please help me?
Because I love you and I love us and A
love the way you feel, and so let's just kind
of figure this out. And he knew that, you know,
(16:05):
deep down, which I also think is why he was
able to just kind of pick that up and less
as an insult and was a constructive thing and something
that really meant a lot to me because he knew,
you know, he knew how we were both were. It's
just I was going through some Okay, what about the
other couples when you saw them and you think about, look,
(16:25):
I'm not saying that you visualized them engaging, but were
you like that's that doesn't match and that matches and
that I can see. Was there anyone that you were like, yeah,
I can totally see them getting after it, or I
don't know if they're going to connect physically. Um, you know,
I I've seen so many different types of couples just
kind of like I just mean knowing their personalities, but
(16:47):
knowing who they were and then seeing them physically together,
did you think that, like, well, I definitely, you know,
kind of pictured everyone like Barbie and Ken. You know,
I was like, you don't have any parts, like there's
nothing going on down there. Obviously there is, but I
you know, I was just thinking, well, Amber and Burnett
(17:08):
easy to picture, you know, all right, they're they're going
at it in the pod kind of thing. Um, but
maybe like Kenny and Kelly. Did you see Kenny and
Kelly because they both seem like very sweet and I
was gonna say, like like they would be a perfect match, right,
I was like, oh, that's very intimate. Really, I can
picture Candles, you know, like in that scenario and um,
(17:30):
you know, Lauren and Cameron just like a very like
cute like let's go out to dinner and then like
I'll seduce you kind of love Mark and Jessica I
felt like, you know, she would dominate him and just
kind of like whip him kind of thing, like he's
just knocking on the door, Oh yeah, can I can
I come in? No? Get a different room? Well, now
(17:53):
seeing it, yes, but at the time, you know, it's like, wow,
Jessica loves Mark like you do not want to know,
I desperately want to see, like what kind of guy
is Kelly into? That's what I'm trying to figure out.
Like when her sister's like, what are you thinking? Why
are you not? Why are you throwing this interested? How
bad are the guys that Kelly is into? Like, that's
(18:15):
the only thing I can think it was that she's
just into bad dude. That's what turns around exactly. Yeah,
I could see that guys with face tattoos, face tattoo.
I think she's you know, she likes a clean guy.
But I don't know. I think maybe the personality because
Kenny was definitely like just a super sweet gentleman, and
I can definitely sympathize because I couldn't. I was not
(18:37):
expecting Damien to take my shoes off at night, or
to you know, call me such sweet things, or to
come home and have like a little present waiting for me.
I was just like, who the get out? Why are
you so cheesy? Like we get out of here? You know.
I was like I don't need that and so but
that's just how he is and those are things that
I grew to love about him. But at the time,
(18:57):
I was just like, boy, you're too much, you know,
so maybe she wasn't able to really accept that part
of him. Part of that could be too I think
for for well though, you know, if you're sitting all
the signals, you should be able to pick up on that.
But I think for guys, you're in that courting phase
and you're like and I think this is especially true
of Mark, where he's like, just don't screw this up.
All right, this is going to happen. Yeah, we're gonna
(19:18):
get we're gonna get this thing to get fired off.
But the only thing can happen is I can screw
this up. So that's where I think part of that
comes from. Is until you get that full green light,
you want to make sure whatever you do. Yeah, all
the guys were so respectful, and we are such a
group of lucky women that we got such um, you know,
(19:40):
gentlemen and and guys that really cared about our feelings
more than sucks. And I think that's true for every
single one of the guys. Did you, um you know
the most? You know, the one instance of it was
Jessica when she put her eyes on Barnett, she was like,
oh damn, Dane, was there anybody else that when you
saw them you were like Okay, yeah, um I honestly,
(20:03):
so I saw all of the guys and I was
like wow, like they're all so attractive and lovely people.
But because I knew them, like really knew them, and
I was just like, yeah, we would never work. So
I wasn't really like physically attracted to them because me,
I had always been attracted to the person over the
looks like what I said, like a couple episodes ago,
(20:23):
like my if you look at my roster, like you
won't see any correlation. It's more of like who they
are as a person. So I saw him and I
was like, yeah, you're hot, like Kenny, super hot, super
like bright blue eyes, like blonde hair. I'm not attracted
to blondes at all. And so the fact that I
thought that, I was like, Okay, he's cute, but I
wasn't like attracted to him where I was like I
need to pursue this. I just was like, no, dude,
(20:45):
I know you where his friends, but so he was
because I'm just trying to figure out if there's because
that's natural, right, you were like you said, you're attracted
a different type of people, but there's nothing wrong with saying, well,
that's a good looking guy. Yeah. No, they're all good
looking guys. I mean, Cameron Mom, Mark Kenny, Um, was
there any other guise? Uh? Mark Kenny, So what, there's
(21:06):
five of them? Barnett We already talked about Barnett, Barnett, Yeah, Barnetts,
like this frat dude that I was like, I've seen
a couple of you. All Right, we'll take a break there,
come back. Continue with our Sexico episode as we make
our way through the Love is Blind experiment. Subscribe to
Love Insight on I Her Radio, or however you get
(21:28):
your podcasts.
All right, this is the Love Inside Podcast, and this
is the episode I think that's going to probably get
the most traction. G as I am joined by Giannina
and I am at money Smith. If you have not
checked in with us before, but chances are you have,
because we've been down quite the road as we recap
the Love Is Blind Experiment series production that you can
watch on Netflix, the most popular show in the world
(00:27):
right now as we are recording this G. But we
decided to call this Sexico, and very rightly, so yes,
exactly you are. I would say if there was well,
I don't know, between you and Amber, I'm trying to
figure out who the poster child the Sexico would be.
But we're gonna go with you because you're sitting here
with us right now and you can get into it.
So let's start with um, the timeline. You're in the
(00:50):
pods for nine days, you show up in Mexico on
day ten, day eleven, I think we're in the pods
for a ten days total. Since nine days we were
like together, like pottying and potting, and then on the
tenth day, on the tenth day, I think is when
(01:14):
we actually saw each other. But we were only there
for like half a day and then boom out. And
then on the twelfth day, on the twelfth day we
love was blind. You had sex with Damien. Actually, I
was like, um, so there's let's let's obviously start with
the sex that you're most familiar with, yours. Um he
(01:38):
seemed genuinely surprised by it. Yeah, had was that something
you were thinking about on the top all the time
in the pods, just like this is how this is
going to go? Did you know? But you didn't know
you were going to Mexico. No, I didn't know I
was going to Mexico. But I knew that I was
going to have sex with him as soon as as
soon as you had some time alone together. Um, well,
I wanted to feel it out right. I'm not you know,
(02:01):
I'm not this like twelve year old. I know that
a big part of a relationship is that sexual chemistry,
and so part of me wanted to have sex with
him so that I knew like whether we vibed and
you know, if this was going to be a fun
relationship or not. And um, I think, yeah, that's pretty
much what I want to have sex with him. And
then the obviously it was because I'm super attracted, but
(02:21):
I um, I was very like demure. You know, I
don't I don't go around asking like so what's your
favorite position? And like what do you like to do
in bed? But you know I would I would ask
questions of like, you know, how would you treat me
like an intimate situations multiple guys. You have this conversation
with just with Damien and Taylor since there are my
(02:42):
top two. Um, and then from there I was like, Okay,
I like the way that you know, Damian is so
respectful and he's a gentleman and little didn't know I'm
a freaking the sheets, but no, he thought, you know,
I was. He was very respectful all the time. I'm
not going to do anything you don't want to do.
And I was like, wow, I really want to um.
(03:05):
And he wasn't expecting that from me because maybe he'll
tell you, you know, he thought I was just like
the sweet, like innocent girl, and again you don't really.
He did say though that he knew there was like
that fire with Latina's side. Yes, that he recognized that,
but then you were super sweet. So that's where that
came out a little bit of everything A little bit
of everything. Um. When when you mentioned it to him,
(03:26):
we saw his genuine reaction seemed to be one of surprise.
Do you think he was genuinely surprised that it was
going to happen that quick? So you had not had
any conversations with him, like on the flight, because you
gotta flight. What's the flight five hours to get down
there or something? Five hour flight. But you know, neither
of us was like, oh, let's join the mile high
club or anything. We were just getting to know each other,
holding hands like kiss saying nothing like, no discussion about
(03:48):
how are we gonna deal with the room and sleeping
in the same bed, like, none of that was brought up.
I mean, it was just like, Okay, well, I hope
we have the same room. I want to cuddle with
you like I want you know, I love how big
you are, like your arms and guys, get your head
out of the gutther um. So that was just, yeah,
that was a very just normal conversation like, oh, like,
(04:09):
I hope you got a room together. I don't want
to be apart from you. I finally get to see you,
I finally get to touch you and smell you. Like,
let's just spend every moment together, and we were both
kind of like sid eyeing each other like, hmmm, I
wonder when we'll be able to have a loan time.
What what about what the other girls? When you guys
knew you were getting out of there, did you guys
have talk conversations about that with Amber? With with Lauren,
(04:30):
the girls are very open about like, oh, like, well,
I would say, I hope he like picks me up
and tosses me across the room, you know, like that's
what I'm looking for. And um, Amber was just very
open about you know that she's just like this wild
free spirit and like can't wait to tear Barnett's clothes off.
And so I think we're all just like like having
(04:52):
fun and having just girl talk, and maybe we're a
little bit more like raunchy than the guys were, right,
I think. Well, and I think the most surprising not
that it's not surprising that that you were, but I
think it's Lauren is with because just can't I think
it's probably because of the personality and the demeanor of Cameron,
the idea that that Lauren's just going to attack him,
(05:12):
and that's kind of what it sounded like was sort
of the their relationship worked out that way? Is that accurate?
I don't know, you know, but I've just been talking
to Lauren in the way UM I think that they
definitely match each other and how they like to talk
about their private life, and I think they're both very satisfied. Right,
(05:32):
And then what about Kent. What do you think happened
with Kenny and Kelly? We're all trying to figure that out,
so as far as I know, and she talked about
it publicly. As Kelly was was was never able to
reach climax, So I think that was a big part
of their relationship, and I think there was a lot
of pressure put on that um one act and probably
(05:55):
she didn't give him a chance to do so. Well, No,
that's not fair, because they were able to a lot
of things that didn't have sex you can reach, So
you don't think they because we're all trying to figure
that out. When you watch the way that conversation went
in the Sexico episode, Kenny basically says I couldn't go
for a run in the morning the way you know,
and and then Mark. The interesting thing is Mark then
(06:16):
comes on and says, man, everybody had sex with me. Yeah,
the only guy that got left out. Yeah, you're right.
So it's as far as all the girls new, Kelly
had not had sex with Kenny. Kenny and Kelly had
not had sex since told the wedding. To this day,
they had never had sex. So I don't know if
it's like a guy talk or he's like, oh yeah,
I wasn't able to walk well because she gave you
(06:36):
like a you know, good handy like I don't know,
like what's gone on there? Um, but uh yeah, a handy.
Oh yeah, I don't want to picture. No, no, no no,
I don't want that image in my head. Um, yeah,
I don't. I don't. I'm I'm a fen believer that
they haven't had sex, but there's a lot of speculation
out there. Maybe they did. I'm not. I'm not in
(06:57):
their bedroom. What about that little round table that you
had that you could sort of feel the awkwardness of
Jessica involved in that conversation with all of you. What
was that like to be in the middle of then? Right? Well,
I mean everyone can, you know, explore each other at
their own pace. I hadn't had sex in like a
(07:18):
year at that point, so and I was open with
my girls about it UM because it was something that
I didn't know whether I should tell Damian or not
and whether that was going to affect your relationships. So
in the pods they were able to say, like, yeah,
tell him, Like, what's the big deal. I'm like, you're right,
what were you? What you were afraid of what? I
don't know. Maybe he would think I was like a
prude or you know someone that just like wasn't, you know,
(07:41):
like into sex, And it's just like, well, that's not me.
I can't speak for all guys, but if someone tells
you that they haven't had sex for a year and
a half, and you're the one they want to have sex,
but that's totally fine. It's a good side. So, like
(08:04):
I said, there's one outlier in this group, and it's
Mark and Jessica. How how much interaction are you having
with them? After there, you guys are all reintroduced to
one another. So I think Mark and Jessica were the
couple that we were closest to UM. Not necessarily in
Mexico because we all had our own UM adventures and
(08:25):
dates and things like that, but in the apartments we
were both very close with each other. Um, did you
think it wasn't gonna work? Because here's that that's kind
of what's you know, when you're in Mexico, you're doing great,
and Lauren and Cameron are doing great, and and obviously
Amber and Barnett are doing great. Kelly's you know, it
seems like she's just being honest, like, hey, we're we're
(08:47):
going step by said, And then Jessica was the only
one that was like, I don't know, well, because maybe
she just wasn't attracted to him. That's kind of what
I'm getting net, you know. And so it's like, if
you're attracted to the person, you have sex with them.
If you're engaged physically hopefully right, if you're physically attracted
to the person, you know, that's just where humans. We
want to procreate, we want to have sex with each other,
(09:07):
and we're gonna get married. We need to know if
the deed is good. Um, but I think that because
she wasn't physically attracted to him, she was like, I
have no desire to have sex with you. And I
think she was pretty honest with that in terms of
in terms of the other girls, though, Um, I guess
let's get to Kelly then, and kind of did you
ever have any extended conversations with her about kind of
(09:29):
her struggles and what she was you did. Yeah, yeah,
So she opened up to me, um like later on,
like around our bachelor at um. And you know, she
told me she was having a hard time just kind
of getting physical with Kenny because there was this thing
in her past that she wasn't able to ever achieve
with any other male partner. Um. And you know, I
(09:52):
think that let me just talk candidly here, when you
are having sex and you are putting so much pressure
on like oh my god, I need I need orgasm
and need orgasm, you just don't right, Like you were
just so focused on it that like your head is
is in that mindset and you just can't have an
orgasm because you're focusing on it. But as long as
like you relax and you just put your mind off
(10:13):
of it and you like enjoy the moment, then I
think you figure out that you can. So I'm not Kelly.
I'm not going to speak for her. I don't know
how her body works. You know, we all have our
different spots here and there, um, But I think that
there's just a lot of pressure based off of you know,
her her past, that she wasn't able to let Kenny
in in that way for um, you know you were
(10:35):
talking about I don't want to think I was a prude,
but I guess I'm you know, I also don't want
people listening to think like, wow, these people are just
having sex all over the place kind of share with
the you know, we said it, We've used the word before,
just the expedited process of a relationship. Did you feel
like you waited a long time to have sex with
Damien because of how much you had shared with him emotionally,
(10:55):
and yet there had not been this sort of consummation
of the relationship with you with the physical act itself.
Did it feel weird that you had not had sex
yet even though you got to know him so well
and connected with him emotionally. Well, it let me kind
of rephrase that, so it was it was weird that
I hadn't touched him period, you know, So the fact
(11:17):
that you know, we hadn't had sex yet, Like I'm
I'm a very like, let's get to know each other,
then I'll allow you into you know, the temple that
is my body. Um, And that's just kind of how
I operate, but the fact that we hadn't touched, we
hadn't seen each other's faces, like that was weird as
how um. And then once I saw him and I
was like, okay, I'm into you, then I was just like,
(11:39):
there's no time to waste. We're engaged, we love each
other obviously, let's just you know, like really consummate the
relationship where it's like, yep, we're together. And then was
that all Mexico was Mexico just one giant sex fest.
I can see how how people would see that because
(12:00):
we all we got was really an episode and a half,
and that's what it seemed like. Yeah, I mean, well
we did a lot of things, you know. We we
went on trips, and we went on helicopters and boats
and things like that. But I think everyone was just
looking forward to seeing their partner and yeah, having sex
with them, because that's just I mean, that's like part
of the fun of being in a relationship, Like oh yeah,
(12:21):
I can booty call you whenever I want, Hubby, you know,
like you you don't want to, I don't care, let's
come here. So it's just, yeah, we're all just super
excited to like touch each other and like kiss each
other and just like be all over each other. It
was a pretty honeymoon on and that's what you do
on your honeymoon and you just have sex. Well and
I and I bring it up because you also, you
still didn't have any of your uh connected advices. Right
(12:43):
when you're in Mexico, you still don't have all the
distractions that would maybe keep you out of bed or
keep you from engaging with one another. All we had
to do is just staring each other's eyes. That's really it.
And a couple of adventures, yeah, a couple of adventures,
a couple of telescopes, you know, but it was just, yeah,
like truly being intoxicated with each other and just like
(13:06):
forming this physical relationship after such an emotional connection. And
it was just like is this the full package? Like
so it was very much a physical experience in every
sense of the word. Was it um I'm trying to
think of how to phrase this without stand super creepy?
Was it better because you are more immersed with the person,
(13:29):
with the individual, and you don't, you know, when you're
in the I mean, like I think any most most
people listening can relate to the fact when you're in
the middle of it. Sometimes your phone buzzes and you
hear it and you get distracted while you should be
completely focused on your partner. Did you sense that it
was a lot better in that environment when you don't
have the phone that's sitting right in front of you
buzz and all the time a hundred and fifty thousand percent.
(13:52):
So has it changed the way you kind of maybe
think about those moments? Now? Will you do you just
power your phone down and throw it away or I don't,
you know, I should, but I don't. And that's when
it's just like, and Damien does a really good job
of just like, you know, putting me in that mindset
where it's like, throw away your phone, turn off the
lights like your mine. And it's good because I'm you know,
(14:15):
I can think about a million things at the you know,
all the time. And so I would highly suggest to
just kind of, you know, if you're really going to
connect with a person on such an intimate level, like
make sure you're all there. And you know, we all
struggle with it. I still struggle with it. But going
back to that time, it's like, Wow, I was just like,
(14:36):
you know, enveloped by you and our you know, our
our beach and our hotel room. And I wasn't thinking
about anything but you at that time, and that was
just really nice. And I bring it up because I
think to the apartments when you have that moment with
Damien and you basically say, are you satisfied? Because I'm not?
You think that's more less physical? Was it less physical
(14:57):
and more the world around you hit changed and you
wanted to try to get back to what you had
had prior to coming back and reintroducing all these other
things in your life. Yeah, I think that's a great question. Um.
I wouldn't doubt that that's that external factors like being
back at my job and you know, being connected back
to the real world did affect my sex life with him.
(15:20):
And then also you know, I was trying to figure
out like is this you know, is this is this
the way that like it was just kind of getting
into the rhythm of things. Um. And again, maybe not
having sex for a year affected that too. I don't know,
but there was definitely a lot of noise that was
(15:42):
affecting my sex life. And that's also why I wanted
to talk to Damian about it, because I was like,
I know it can be great. We know it can
be great, and you think it's fantastic, and I know
that it can be fantastic too, but there's something that's
blocking me. So like, what is it? Please help me?
Because I love you and I love us and A
love the way you feel, and so let's just kind
of figure this out. And he knew that, you know,
(16:05):
deep down, which I also think is why he was
able to just kind of pick that up and less
as an insult and was a constructive thing and something
that really meant a lot to me because he knew,
you know, he knew how we were both were. It's
just I was going through some Okay, what about the
other couples when you saw them and you think about, look,
(16:25):
I'm not saying that you visualized them engaging, but were
you like that's that doesn't match and that matches and
that I can see. Was there anyone that you were like, yeah,
I can totally see them getting after it, or I
don't know if they're going to connect physically. Um, you know,
I I've seen so many different types of couples just
kind of like I just mean knowing their personalities, but
(16:47):
knowing who they were and then seeing them physically together,
did you think that, like, well, I definitely, you know,
kind of pictured everyone like Barbie and Ken. You know,
I was like, you don't have any parts, like there's
nothing going on down there. Obviously there is, but I
you know, I was just thinking, well, Amber and Burnett
(17:08):
easy to picture, you know, all right, they're they're going
at it in the pod kind of thing. Um, but
maybe like Kenny and Kelly. Did you see Kenny and
Kelly because they both seem like very sweet and I
was gonna say, like like they would be a perfect match, right,
I was like, oh, that's very intimate. Really, I can
picture Candles, you know, like in that scenario and um,
(17:30):
you know, Lauren and Cameron just like a very like
cute like let's go out to dinner and then like
I'll seduce you kind of love Mark and Jessica I
felt like, you know, she would dominate him and just
kind of like whip him kind of thing, like he's
just knocking on the door, Oh yeah, can I can
I come in? No? Get a different room? Well, now
(17:53):
seeing it, yes, but at the time, you know, it's like, wow,
Jessica loves Mark like you do not want to know,
I desperately want to see, like what kind of guy
is Kelly into? That's what I'm trying to figure out.
Like when her sister's like, what are you thinking? Why
are you not? Why are you throwing this interested? How
bad are the guys that Kelly is into? Like, that's
(18:15):
the only thing I can think it was that she's
just into bad dude. That's what turns around exactly. Yeah,
I could see that guys with face tattoos, face tattoo.
I think she's you know, she likes a clean guy.
But I don't know. I think maybe the personality because
Kenny was definitely like just a super sweet gentleman, and
I can definitely sympathize because I couldn't. I was not
(18:37):
expecting Damien to take my shoes off at night, or
to you know, call me such sweet things, or to
come home and have like a little present waiting for me.
I was just like, who the get out? Why are
you so cheesy? Like we get out of here? You know.
I was like I don't need that and so but
that's just how he is and those are things that
I grew to love about him. But at the time,
(18:57):
I was just like, boy, you're too much, you know,
so maybe she wasn't able to really accept that part
of him. Part of that could be too I think
for for well though, you know, if you're sitting all
the signals, you should be able to pick up on that.
But I think for guys, you're in that courting phase
and you're like and I think this is especially true
of Mark, where he's like, just don't screw this up.
All right, this is going to happen. Yeah, we're gonna
(19:18):
get we're gonna get this thing to get fired off.
But the only thing can happen is I can screw
this up. So that's where I think part of that
comes from. Is until you get that full green light,
you want to make sure whatever you do. Yeah, all
the guys were so respectful, and we are such a
group of lucky women that we got such um, you know,
(19:40):
gentlemen and and guys that really cared about our feelings
more than sucks. And I think that's true for every
single one of the guys. Did you, um you know
the most? You know, the one instance of it was
Jessica when she put her eyes on Barnett, she was like,
oh damn, Dane, was there anybody else that when you
saw them you were like Okay, yeah, um I honestly,
(20:03):
so I saw all of the guys and I was
like wow, like they're all so attractive and lovely people.
But because I knew them, like really knew them, and
I was just like, yeah, we would never work. So
I wasn't really like physically attracted to them because me,
I had always been attracted to the person over the
looks like what I said, like a couple episodes ago,
(20:23):
like my if you look at my roster, like you
won't see any correlation. It's more of like who they
are as a person. So I saw him and I
was like, yeah, you're hot, like Kenny, super hot, super
like bright blue eyes, like blonde hair. I'm not attracted
to blondes at all. And so the fact that I
thought that, I was like, Okay, he's cute, but I
wasn't like attracted to him where I was like I
need to pursue this. I just was like, no, dude,
(20:45):
I know you where his friends, but so he was
because I'm just trying to figure out if there's because
that's natural, right, you were like you said, you're attracted
a different type of people, but there's nothing wrong with saying, well,
that's a good looking guy. Yeah. No, they're all good
looking guys. I mean, Cameron Mom, Mark Kenny, Um, was
there any other guise? Uh? Mark Kenny, So what, there's
(21:06):
five of them? Barnett We already talked about Barnett, Barnett, Yeah, Barnetts,
like this frat dude that I was like, I've seen
a couple of you. All Right, we'll take a break there,
come back. Continue with our Sexico episode as we make
our way through the Love is Blind experiment. Subscribe to
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