October 10, 2021 • 25 mins
U.S. immigration policy should be fair and humane. What we’re seeing at the southern border right now is anything but — and the direct result of the left’s open-borders agenda. For this podcast, Anna breaks down the border crisis with Catalina Lauf, the daughter of a legal Guatemalan immigrant who’s challenging Adam Kinzinger for Congress in Illinois’ 16th District. As Anna and Catalina discuss, no one’s more frustrated with illegal immigration than Hispanic voters. And while the Biden administration may think their border policies are compassionate, they’re causing far more misery for migrants than the policies of the Trump administration. Catalina also tells the story of her mom coming to the U.S., recounts starting a small business with her sister, and details what it’s like being attacked by the left for being a bi-racial conservative. Plus, they dig into how feminism went off the rails in recent years and whether women should be eligible for the draft.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Up next, Luna Talks with Anna Paulina Luna. Part of
the gang wi US immigration policy should be fair and humane.
What we're seeing at the southern border right now is
anything but and as a direct result of the left's
open border agenda. This is Luna Talks with Onna Paulina.
(00:21):
Welcome back, everyone to today's episode of Luna Talks with
me your host on a Paulina Luna. You know, I
was on a segment actually earlier today and they were
talking about how and we've we've known this for a while,
but that the media really does hone in on racism
in order to divide the nation, and then you know,
politicians will campaign on it. I was on a segment
(00:41):
and they were referencing everything happening with Gabby Petito and
Brian Laundry. And I know that some of you have
been following that. The fact that CNN and some of
these far left news outlets are saying that the only
reason Gabby Petito got coverage in her murder case is
because of the fact that she is a white woman
is so bizarre to me. But when you really unpeel
(01:04):
that layer and you look into what's really happening at
her Southern Border. For example, you know that same outlet CNN,
MSNBC that is claiming that it's racism that's actually spotlighting
Gabby Potito and that it's because she's white, this, that,
and the other. They are the same news outlets that
have the opportunity to be able to spotlight what's happening
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at the Southern border with the many disappearing women, brown
women and children, and yet they don't because it doesn't
fit their narrative. And so I wanted to do today's
episode and bring in someone that is helping to shatter
that narrative, someone who actually is very similar to myself
in a lot of ways. She is young, she's running
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for Congress in Illinois. She's half white, she's half Hispanic,
which you know, seems to really bother people these days
when you have people that are biracial, bicultural speaking out,
and I can tell you that, you know, you see
the hate on the left and it kind of makes
you wonder sometimes do the people on the left realize
that Barack Obama was part white? I mean, do they
(02:08):
even know that or is that something that you know,
he gets a pass on because of the fact that
the media basically has crowned him to be almost as
godlike complex when in actuality they failed to with a
lot of their arguments. Makes sense because as you're saying,
this is not just the first one, we could go
(02:29):
into what's happening right now with force mandates. I mean,
they're backwards and they're thinking. And so I wanted to
bring on Catalina. She's an incredible candidate. She has been
someone that I've known now for several years. But what's
cool about her story, and I think, like so many
of us that our first generation, second generation Americans, is
that she knows what it's like to have a family
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flee a country and then ultimately come here to pursue
and establish the American dream. And I want to ask
her some tough questions. I mean, how does she feel
about women joining the draft. That's something that people are
kind of being quiet on because I think that you
have this aspect of feminism that's really hijacked what true
feminism is. And I'll correct myself, it's not the aspect.
It's a faction of this radicalized feminism, which is really
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this anti man hating movement that is hijacked the real
I think general basis and foundation of what true traditional
feminism was. But I'm gonna asking all these questions, so
without further ado, welcome to our show. Catalina Lauf. You're
running for Congress in Illinois. Correct, yes, thanks for having
me on. Who are you running against? Rhino Adam Kinsinger.
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Oh my goodness. He's one of the ten that voted
for impeachment right he is. He votes with Nancy Pelosi.
He's enabling the Democrats. We need to get rhinos like
that out. They don't represent the conservative movement or you know,
the America First agenda anymore. So you have a very
unique background in perspective. I mean, it's kind of funny
and I always joke around with people because when we
(03:57):
were in Georgia together working on the Senate runoff races,
people kept confusing as as sisters and they would call
you like Catalina Paulina or Catalina Luna Cataluna. It was
like different variations of like each other's names. But you're
half white, you're half Guatemalan. Do you ever get hate
because of the fact that you're considered bicultural and biracial? Yeah? Well, first,
(04:18):
a little funny story about George I think on my
hotel room key it was Catalina Luna and they wouldn't
let me in the same class name. Uh, yes, you know,
it's been crazy. I never thought since running how terrible
the left has been in terms of name calling, and
obviously you know what you're getting yourself into when you
get into this space and in politics in general, but
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certainly running, I've never even heard of half of the
terms that they call people who are, uh, have multiple ethnicities.
I've been called a coconut, you know, fake white, fake
fake Hispanic. It's just it's ridiculous. And at the end
of the day, I hate labels, right, I don't think
I think we should steer away from that in this country.
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But at the end of the day, I mean, it's
just I'm an American first and I just happen to
have two parents, one that's white, Gringo, blue eyed, and
from Guatemala and it's brown. You know, I happened to
be half and half. So it's ridiculous. They definitely don't
like to see conservatives who have different perspective and certainly
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have family from different countries. So real quickly because people
are probably like, what the heck is a coconut. You
have to explain the term. I didn't even know what
it was. But it was brown on the outside and
white on the inside. Is what like Urban Dictionary or
something told me, which again it's these terms are just ridiculous.
But I had no idea what a coconut was. And
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I'm like, all right now. I were loud and proud
and and for those who might not know Catalina, obviously
she's beautiful, but you might have recognized her for being
in the commercial for the r n C, which is
where you guys had an incredible story with your sister.
Do you to tell us a little bit about how
that came about? Yes, So, I had been an appointee
with the Trump administration at the Department of Commerce and
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was working a lot with you know, opportunities Ze legislation
and tax cuts and Jobs Act, and we were able
to have that opportunity just being involved kind of in
the in the Trump uh circuit there, and we're asked
to just share our story and the whole premise of
that and why we you know, just we're super authentic
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about just our story. How we come from a really
small town outside of Illinois. My mom was a teacher,
my dad was a business owner, and we're able to
just really talk about how where the example of the
American dream and my sister and I started a company,
UH startup, and under the Trump administration we were able
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to thrive because of economic growth because you had a
president that was pro business, pro growth policies, and how
we wanted to share with the country of how detrimental
it would would be under a Biden administration. And we're
seeing it now with supply shortages, UH, supply chain problems
rather labor shortages, inflation rates. You know, it's really impacting
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small businesses like our So we wanted to really warn
the public that two things. Number one, you can be
from wherever you are or whoever you are, and you
can be a conservative. You can be young, you can
be black, you can be Hispanic, you can be white,
doesn't matter. But then also, if you are a small
business owner, do not vote for somebody who does not
understand economics like this Biden administration and your family, I mean,
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your mom in particular, came from a country that was
basically torn apart because of corruption and torn apart because
of the cartel is really controlling a lot of what
was happening in Guatemala. We see a lot in the media.
I think now with this hyper focus on these migrant caravans,
it's interesting because a lot of these people are coming
from South America. I want to hear your family's story
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real quick, because I'm gonna be asking you about out
your thoughts on if this is by accident or by
design with the caravans, so real quickly, tell us a
little bit about your mom and why she came to
the United States. Yes, so back in the eighties. You know,
these countries, third world Central American countries have always had
the same problems, right, if not worse, back when she
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came here, and even prior to that. You know, when
my my fi when they were growing up and my
grandmother was, you know, raising her family, they were in
the midst of a civil war. You had guerrilla warfare,
you had in fighting, you had the cartels involved the government.
People were quite literally killing each other in the streets.
And not to mention what comes from that, you know rations,
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and it's always been a third world country. So when
they came here in the eighties, my mom uh really
worked hard and she still wanted to if she wanted
to be somebody that got out from where she came from,
but then also did better and understanding that in America
you can be whoever you want to be. And so
when she came here and why it was basically because
of economic opportunity, she knew she could again do better
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for herself. She worked through jobs, she learned English at night,
raising a family, but then also went on to you know,
get two master's degrees and and and be great in
her career field. And the only reason why that was
is because she worked really hard for it, and she
learned the language and she assimilated. And nowadays you have
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this problem where this caravan. You know, we need to
look into what kind of organizations are behind these people,
what is the actual political agenda behind that, because let
me tell you one thing. When you see this, the
images that you see nowadays, First of all, my mother
would never uh had I been around and been born
in Guatemala. You see images of kids being sold to uh,
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people who sell them or rent them to just get
across the border, drug trafficking, sex trafficking, labor trafficking. You
have their own, their own parents. Of these three year
old people selling or renting their children all for what
There's clearly an incentive there and there's somebody making money
for it. How could you ever put your child in
danger my mother? Would? I mean, that wouldn't even cross
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somebody's mind. If they want to come here the right
way and do it the right way and contribute something
something to this country, there has to be some sort
of incentive that is causing a lot of evil people
to do evil things. So you need to look at
you know, what's the what's the motive behind it? Why
are the incentives there? What are they gaining on of it.
The answer to that question is, well, because they know
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that they can and they won't get punished for it.
It's turned into a business for these cartels. The governments
don't care. Our government clearly doesn't care. Look, the Biden
administration campaigned on if you come here, you know, we
will have everything for free, or we won't penalize you.
At what point is it do we look at this
and say no, this is blatant right from wrong and
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there's more harm being one with having lawlessness and chaos
at the border. Then what we saw, which were improvements
at the border under the Trump administration with really hard
core law and order policies those were working. So it's
it's so clear, and you know, I urged the audience
to look deep into what organizations fund this. The media
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is obviously behind a lot of the in a lot
of ways as well, the propaganda that propaganda and saying, oh, look,
we want migrants to come here. Well, what's compassionate about
the images and the realities and the stories that you
hear of what's actually going on at the border because
of the lawlessness exactly. And I actually saw a segment
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on NBC actually of all places that's talking about now
a four hundred thousands that's right, four hundred thousand person
migrant caravan coming to the United States. But I do
have to break real quick for commercial breaks to sit tight.
Will be right back, okay. So referencing that four thousand
person migrant caravan, it is projected to get to the
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United States at the end of October beginning of November.
I know that currently a lot of these people from
footage that we've actually been able to see and play
here on this show, from independent news sources, they're finding that,
you know, these caravans are being given booklets largely associated
with the United Nations and they're essentially being told how
to get to the United States. Now, this is a
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two part question. There is a huge issue as it
stands already with our immigration system. We are so backlogged
with being able to get people here legally and it's
so expensive that this is only I think making that
process more complicated. Your mother came here legally, correct, she did,
so when you see what's happening with these people coming
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here and then you understand. I think this argument better
than most because your family came here the right way.
You are Hispanic and you can see through their propaganda.
Do you think that Hispanic Americans in particular going to
wake up and soon? And I think we're seeing the
polling data to prove that. We see a lot of
Hispanic Americans, especial in these border towns that are voting
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increasingly Republican and or conservative because they're really frustrated with
what's happening. But do you think that, especially for the
election cycle and then on to when President Trump hopefully
is going to announce soon that he'll be rerunning for president,
do you think that that's going to be a number
one issue for Hispanic voters I do. And the number
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one reason again why a lot of people come here
is not only for economic opportunity, but because of law
and order. They've seen in their countries what it looks
like when you have a wild wild West. And I
think a lot of Hispanic Americans really value the fact
that they can come to America and they can live
and safe communities that they know the hardship and and
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the lost and just everything that was put into having
to come here legally because there's a process and they
didn't want to break the law. So now when when
they see all these people coming in here and ultimately
be given a slap on on the risk in a
lot of ways, and even an administration again in sentimizing
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them to come here, well of course they're going to
take that personally because they're like, well, look, I did
it the right way. You should be rewarded for for
doing something the right way. That is why we have
a legal system. Uh. And and you're seeing and I
think it's going to become a bigger issue. You saw
exactly what you mentioned on the border towns in the election.
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You saw you know, very h hard Democrat areas by
the border flip Republican and it all comes down to
safety and security, and of course economics is a big
factor in that, but safety and security is number one.
So it's a interesting you had CNN actually recently talking
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about and they've been doing this since the Gabby Petito
case really broke. For those of you who might not
know who Gabby Petito was, she was a blogger that
actually had a pretty significantly large social media that was
murdered basically by her boyfriend. And now there's a national
manhunt looking for Brian Laundry. But in reference that case.
The reason I bring this up is because the media
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is saying that, you know, the only reason this case
got so big is because the fact that she was white.
And this same media, CNN, these leftist news outlets, most
mainstream media doesn't talk about the missing brown women at
the border. They don't talk about the human trafficking or
the drug running or any of that. It's in my
opinion that they don't because if they did, it would
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really shatter their narrative for wanting open borders. And I
think most people, if they truly knew what was happening
at the border, they would be advocating for a closed
border in a legal immigration process because they don't want
to be a part of a modern day slave trade.
But for someone who is very much so, I think
at the tip of the spear in this fight, right,
you are everything that I think a lot of Americans
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want to say but that they can't because they're you know,
it's fearful of being called racist. Obviously your Hispanic. Do
you think that the media is intentionally trying to divide
people based on race for more nefarious reasons? Absolutely? Look
at what happened during George Floyd and the BLM riots
and the amount of media coverage that received, not only
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media coverage, but I'll be frank here and saying corporate political.
The pressure that was put on and the narrative that
was created surrounding that whole case was clearly, uh, there
was an agenda behind that in a lot of ways.
Again not saying that what happened was uh, it was
obviously wrong, but look at the months and months of
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coverage and the actual policies and and people speaking out,
the celebrities, the political leaders, and then I also think
back on Vanessa in was it for anness agen that right?
She was Hispanic and in the military, and that didn't
receive nearly as much coverage as what should have been
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a significant amount of coverage and and a lot of
questions that are still unanswered in that case. How is this?
I mean, this isn't even comparing, you know, apples to apples.
This is completely The media should do one thing, and
that's provide the facts, and especially in a case where
it's really parrowing whatever happened, UH, find out the truth
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and and that should be it doesn't matter race, gender, ethnicity. Uh.
And to say that it's just because uh, in this
situation the person is is white is just ridiculous. Right.
It's clear there's so many other cases where that has
not been the case. So interesting you bring up Vanessa again.
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I actually had the opportunity so her her family's attorneys
actually in Tampa Bay area. Her name is Natalie, and
I'm friends with her, so I was able to actually
meet vanessa gean sisters when they came out to actually
discuss the case. And what her younger sister was telling
me is that the media was trying to tie Vaness
again into George Floyd and her family is actually I
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wouldn't argue politically that they would consider themselves staunch Republicans,
but their value system is very conservative, so they're like
so many I think Spanish speaking Americans or first gen
that really has that conservative value system, but might not
necessarily know that their Republicans unless you were to actually
compare the two platforms and then remove the titles. So
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it was interesting because they did say that they kind
of tried to paint it out as that, and as
soon as they were saying, well, no, this is about
our sister, and she was clearly you know, advocating for
herself to her leadership. There were some red flags prior
to this that really made her uncomfortable, and they ignored it.
They all all of a sudden kind of just like
switch one, eat out, didn't real we want to cover
the story. So it is true to say that if
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you're a minority and you go along with their narrative,
that they will blow up the story. But if you
speak out and you don't want to go with their narrative,
will essentially bury it. I do want to ask you
because I know that you and your sister are both
you know, young women. You're obviously running for Congress, and
there are a lot of I think this huge movement
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within the now modern day feminism, which that's a whole
separate podcast. I think modern day feminism is actually an
abomination of true feminism, which would be that you can
really have an empowered platform as a woman, you can
be you know, provide for your family, not hate men
in the process, which is what I kind of feel
like modern day feminism has become. I want to ask
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you about women in the draft. I do have to
take one last commercial break, so we will be right back.
Sit tight, okay, Catalina. So women in the draft, if
you were in Congress today, what are your thoughts and
opinions on that? And would you vote for this? Uh? No,
I would not vote for it. The feminists have pushed
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this so far to women and men have to be equal,
and I think they've completely undermined what they originally wanted
or this is what they've always wanted in the cultural
wars is what I like to call them, right, Uh,
they wanted this the whole time. But yeah, I think
when you read things like the Elliott and the Odyssey
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and the role of women when it came, and of
course I have so much respect for females in the military,
like yourself on a serve their country and wanted to
be there. That was the choice that you wanted to make, right,
I mean that was you did that because you wanted
to serve. And I again have so much respect for
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for women, but in terms of a draft, you know,
I think it's very important that we had the role
of women in wars prior, and you know, the contribution
back home in raising a family or having a family,
and and just kind of that. There's value to being
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a female and female, and there's value to being a
male and a male. Right, I mean, we're when we're
blurring these lines. It seems to me that there's always
obviously a nefarious agenda behind it. I think it's too
one of those things that you know, so here's the argument. Right,
You have women that say, okay, well women should be
a part of the draft, and they are the same
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women that refuse to acknowledge that there's actual biological differences
between men and women. Right, So like x x x
Y chromosomes, men produce more testosterone. They are made to
literally go out protect and basically fight. I'm sorry, but
if I'm you know, in an infantry unit and I
have a two hundred pound three pound dude who's like
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six five coming at me. I'm tiny, I'm gonna get trampled,
and that in itself. I think it's thing that a
lot of people don't consider when you have women that
are serving in different combat capacities. It's not that we
don't want women to be able to do everything that
men can do, but the fact is that there's physical limitations.
And ultimately, if that's what's being put at the front
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of that argument, well it can actually jeopardize an entire
unit and get people killed. And I think there's this
aspect of in our society. If you are conservative, your
first goal and objective is to protect women, to of
course empower them to do everything, but to make sure
that women are taken care of. And that's I think
a moral standard, right, Like if you're a Christian, it's
part of a Christian value system. If you're Jewish, it's
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part of a Jewish value system. People want that, but
I feel like with the complete erosion of God from
the conversation of the depletion of I think our Christian
value system. And then you have this movement by people
who have never even served in the military Okay, we're
talking about people that sit at Capital Hill and think
that they can advise and that they know everything because
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they saw it in a book. They're not realizing the
direct impact this is happening in a country. My fear
is this, if we do get into a full fledged war,
World War three, you know, with China. Let's say, what
is going to happen to the moral of a country
if people's daughters are being drafted and sent to the
front lines. Could you imagine I mean, it's already hard
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enough to lose your sons, but then to lose your
daughters two is a whole Another argument one, And who's
left right? When you look at drafts from World War Two,
Let's say, I mean the range of people serving was
from eighteen to like probably forty five to fifty. I
don't know what the age limit was. But then who
is left too? Also, and again I'm not just saying,
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you know, women should be the only ones out there
in corporate America or keeping the country going, but you're
also risking a large majority of your population. That also
comes with economics, procreation. You know, there's a lot, there's
a natural all kind of law here at play that
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they're trying to mess with when they do try to
include also females, and that to me when you know
members of Congress are trying to play god and trying
to get involved with everything it, you know, it's it's
really concerning. How about members of Congress, they are they
going to be drafted in in Congress who are pushing
stuff like this? Yeah, it's interesting some you know, some
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members their kids will end up magically not being drafted
during a draft, which is something that's happened historically. So
it is an interesting point that you bring up. But
it's you know, it's always interesting. Why did they all
of a sudden move for such an extreme measure to
make people automatically registered for the draft instead of saying, well,
people should do two years of mandatory service like they
do in the I D. F Right or in Israel.
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It's such an extreme thing that they would just go
from point A to ze all of a sudden instead
of even giving people the option of you know, having that.
So um, I just want to thank you so much
for joining us today. For those who love Catalina, where
can they give and donate to you? Catalina for Congress
dot com and follow on all social media platforms. Catalina Lauf, Well, Catalina,
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we look forward to covering your journey. I really hope, hope, hope,
hope that you will make it into Congress because we
absolutely need your voice. And thank you for joining us
today on Luna Talks. Thank you. Before we go, I
want to thank Catalina Lauf again for such a great interview,
and I want to thank you guys so much for listening.
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Up next, Luna Talks with Anna Paulina Luna. Part of
the gang wi US immigration policy should be fair and humane.
What we're seeing at the southern border right now is
anything but and as a direct result of the left's
open border agenda. This is Luna Talks with Onna Paulina.
(00:21):
Welcome back, everyone to today's episode of Luna Talks with
me your host on a Paulina Luna. You know, I
was on a segment actually earlier today and they were
talking about how and we've we've known this for a while,
but that the media really does hone in on racism
in order to divide the nation, and then you know,
politicians will campaign on it. I was on a segment
(00:41):
and they were referencing everything happening with Gabby Petito and
Brian Laundry. And I know that some of you have
been following that. The fact that CNN and some of
these far left news outlets are saying that the only
reason Gabby Petito got coverage in her murder case is
because of the fact that she is a white woman
is so bizarre to me. But when you really unpeel
(01:04):
that layer and you look into what's really happening at
her Southern Border. For example, you know that same outlet CNN,
MSNBC that is claiming that it's racism that's actually spotlighting
Gabby Potito and that it's because she's white, this, that,
and the other. They are the same news outlets that
have the opportunity to be able to spotlight what's happening
(01:26):
at the Southern border with the many disappearing women, brown
women and children, and yet they don't because it doesn't
fit their narrative. And so I wanted to do today's
episode and bring in someone that is helping to shatter
that narrative, someone who actually is very similar to myself
in a lot of ways. She is young, she's running
(01:46):
for Congress in Illinois. She's half white, she's half Hispanic,
which you know, seems to really bother people these days
when you have people that are biracial, bicultural speaking out,
and I can tell you that, you know, you see
the hate on the left and it kind of makes
you wonder sometimes do the people on the left realize
that Barack Obama was part white? I mean, do they
(02:08):
even know that or is that something that you know,
he gets a pass on because of the fact that
the media basically has crowned him to be almost as
godlike complex when in actuality they failed to with a
lot of their arguments. Makes sense because as you're saying,
this is not just the first one, we could go
(02:29):
into what's happening right now with force mandates. I mean,
they're backwards and they're thinking. And so I wanted to
bring on Catalina. She's an incredible candidate. She has been
someone that I've known now for several years. But what's
cool about her story, and I think, like so many
of us that our first generation, second generation Americans, is
that she knows what it's like to have a family
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flee a country and then ultimately come here to pursue
and establish the American dream. And I want to ask
her some tough questions. I mean, how does she feel
about women joining the draft. That's something that people are
kind of being quiet on because I think that you
have this aspect of feminism that's really hijacked what true
feminism is. And I'll correct myself, it's not the aspect.
It's a faction of this radicalized feminism, which is really
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this anti man hating movement that is hijacked the real
I think general basis and foundation of what true traditional
feminism was. But I'm gonna asking all these questions, so
without further ado, welcome to our show. Catalina Lauf. You're
running for Congress in Illinois. Correct, yes, thanks for having
me on. Who are you running against? Rhino Adam Kinsinger.
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Oh my goodness. He's one of the ten that voted
for impeachment right he is. He votes with Nancy Pelosi.
He's enabling the Democrats. We need to get rhinos like
that out. They don't represent the conservative movement or you know,
the America First agenda anymore. So you have a very
unique background in perspective. I mean, it's kind of funny
and I always joke around with people because when we
(03:57):
were in Georgia together working on the Senate runoff races,
people kept confusing as as sisters and they would call
you like Catalina Paulina or Catalina Luna Cataluna. It was
like different variations of like each other's names. But you're
half white, you're half Guatemalan. Do you ever get hate
because of the fact that you're considered bicultural and biracial? Yeah? Well, first,
(04:18):
a little funny story about George I think on my
hotel room key it was Catalina Luna and they wouldn't
let me in the same class name. Uh, yes, you know,
it's been crazy. I never thought since running how terrible
the left has been in terms of name calling, and
obviously you know what you're getting yourself into when you
get into this space and in politics in general, but
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certainly running, I've never even heard of half of the
terms that they call people who are, uh, have multiple ethnicities.
I've been called a coconut, you know, fake white, fake
fake Hispanic. It's just it's ridiculous. And at the end
of the day, I hate labels, right, I don't think
I think we should steer away from that in this country.
(05:03):
But at the end of the day, I mean, it's
just I'm an American first and I just happen to
have two parents, one that's white, Gringo, blue eyed, and
from Guatemala and it's brown. You know, I happened to
be half and half. So it's ridiculous. They definitely don't
like to see conservatives who have different perspective and certainly
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have family from different countries. So real quickly because people
are probably like, what the heck is a coconut. You
have to explain the term. I didn't even know what
it was. But it was brown on the outside and
white on the inside. Is what like Urban Dictionary or
something told me, which again it's these terms are just ridiculous.
But I had no idea what a coconut was. And
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I'm like, all right now. I were loud and proud
and and for those who might not know Catalina, obviously
she's beautiful, but you might have recognized her for being
in the commercial for the r n C, which is
where you guys had an incredible story with your sister.
Do you to tell us a little bit about how
that came about? Yes, So, I had been an appointee
with the Trump administration at the Department of Commerce and
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was working a lot with you know, opportunities Ze legislation
and tax cuts and Jobs Act, and we were able
to have that opportunity just being involved kind of in
the in the Trump uh circuit there, and we're asked
to just share our story and the whole premise of
that and why we you know, just we're super authentic
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about just our story. How we come from a really
small town outside of Illinois. My mom was a teacher,
my dad was a business owner, and we're able to
just really talk about how where the example of the
American dream and my sister and I started a company,
UH startup, and under the Trump administration we were able
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to thrive because of economic growth because you had a
president that was pro business, pro growth policies, and how
we wanted to share with the country of how detrimental
it would would be under a Biden administration. And we're
seeing it now with supply shortages, UH, supply chain problems
rather labor shortages, inflation rates. You know, it's really impacting
(07:11):
small businesses like our So we wanted to really warn
the public that two things. Number one, you can be
from wherever you are or whoever you are, and you
can be a conservative. You can be young, you can
be black, you can be Hispanic, you can be white,
doesn't matter. But then also, if you are a small
business owner, do not vote for somebody who does not
understand economics like this Biden administration and your family, I mean,
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your mom in particular, came from a country that was
basically torn apart because of corruption and torn apart because
of the cartel is really controlling a lot of what
was happening in Guatemala. We see a lot in the media.
I think now with this hyper focus on these migrant caravans,
it's interesting because a lot of these people are coming
from South America. I want to hear your family's story
(07:57):
real quick, because I'm gonna be asking you about out
your thoughts on if this is by accident or by
design with the caravans, so real quickly, tell us a
little bit about your mom and why she came to
the United States. Yes, so back in the eighties. You know,
these countries, third world Central American countries have always had
the same problems, right, if not worse, back when she
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came here, and even prior to that. You know, when
my my fi when they were growing up and my
grandmother was, you know, raising her family, they were in
the midst of a civil war. You had guerrilla warfare,
you had in fighting, you had the cartels involved the government.
People were quite literally killing each other in the streets.
And not to mention what comes from that, you know rations,
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and it's always been a third world country. So when
they came here in the eighties, my mom uh really
worked hard and she still wanted to if she wanted
to be somebody that got out from where she came from,
but then also did better and understanding that in America
you can be whoever you want to be. And so
when she came here and why it was basically because
of economic opportunity, she knew she could again do better
(09:04):
for herself. She worked through jobs, she learned English at night,
raising a family, but then also went on to you know,
get two master's degrees and and and be great in
her career field. And the only reason why that was
is because she worked really hard for it, and she
learned the language and she assimilated. And nowadays you have
(09:25):
this problem where this caravan. You know, we need to
look into what kind of organizations are behind these people,
what is the actual political agenda behind that, because let
me tell you one thing. When you see this, the
images that you see nowadays, First of all, my mother
would never uh had I been around and been born
in Guatemala. You see images of kids being sold to uh,
(09:50):
people who sell them or rent them to just get
across the border, drug trafficking, sex trafficking, labor trafficking. You
have their own, their own parents. Of these three year
old people selling or renting their children all for what
There's clearly an incentive there and there's somebody making money
for it. How could you ever put your child in
danger my mother? Would? I mean, that wouldn't even cross
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somebody's mind. If they want to come here the right
way and do it the right way and contribute something
something to this country, there has to be some sort
of incentive that is causing a lot of evil people
to do evil things. So you need to look at
you know, what's the what's the motive behind it? Why
are the incentives there? What are they gaining on of it.
The answer to that question is, well, because they know
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that they can and they won't get punished for it.
It's turned into a business for these cartels. The governments
don't care. Our government clearly doesn't care. Look, the Biden
administration campaigned on if you come here, you know, we
will have everything for free, or we won't penalize you.
At what point is it do we look at this
and say no, this is blatant right from wrong and
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there's more harm being one with having lawlessness and chaos
at the border. Then what we saw, which were improvements
at the border under the Trump administration with really hard
core law and order policies those were working. So it's
it's so clear, and you know, I urged the audience
to look deep into what organizations fund this. The media
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is obviously behind a lot of the in a lot
of ways as well, the propaganda that propaganda and saying, oh, look,
we want migrants to come here. Well, what's compassionate about
the images and the realities and the stories that you
hear of what's actually going on at the border because
of the lawlessness exactly. And I actually saw a segment
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on NBC actually of all places that's talking about now
a four hundred thousands that's right, four hundred thousand person
migrant caravan coming to the United States. But I do
have to break real quick for commercial breaks to sit tight.
Will be right back, okay. So referencing that four thousand
person migrant caravan, it is projected to get to the
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United States at the end of October beginning of November.
I know that currently a lot of these people from
footage that we've actually been able to see and play
here on this show, from independent news sources, they're finding that,
you know, these caravans are being given booklets largely associated
with the United Nations and they're essentially being told how
to get to the United States. Now, this is a
(12:27):
two part question. There is a huge issue as it
stands already with our immigration system. We are so backlogged
with being able to get people here legally and it's
so expensive that this is only I think making that
process more complicated. Your mother came here legally, correct, she did,
so when you see what's happening with these people coming
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here and then you understand. I think this argument better
than most because your family came here the right way.
You are Hispanic and you can see through their propaganda.
Do you think that Hispanic Americans in particular going to
wake up and soon? And I think we're seeing the
polling data to prove that. We see a lot of
Hispanic Americans, especial in these border towns that are voting
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increasingly Republican and or conservative because they're really frustrated with
what's happening. But do you think that, especially for the
election cycle and then on to when President Trump hopefully
is going to announce soon that he'll be rerunning for president,
do you think that that's going to be a number
one issue for Hispanic voters I do. And the number
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one reason again why a lot of people come here
is not only for economic opportunity, but because of law
and order. They've seen in their countries what it looks
like when you have a wild wild West. And I
think a lot of Hispanic Americans really value the fact
that they can come to America and they can live
and safe communities that they know the hardship and and
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the lost and just everything that was put into having
to come here legally because there's a process and they
didn't want to break the law. So now when when
they see all these people coming in here and ultimately
be given a slap on on the risk in a
lot of ways, and even an administration again in sentimizing
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them to come here, well of course they're going to
take that personally because they're like, well, look, I did
it the right way. You should be rewarded for for
doing something the right way. That is why we have
a legal system. Uh. And and you're seeing and I
think it's going to become a bigger issue. You saw
exactly what you mentioned on the border towns in the election.
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You saw you know, very h hard Democrat areas by
the border flip Republican and it all comes down to
safety and security, and of course economics is a big
factor in that, but safety and security is number one.
So it's a interesting you had CNN actually recently talking
(15:02):
about and they've been doing this since the Gabby Petito
case really broke. For those of you who might not
know who Gabby Petito was, she was a blogger that
actually had a pretty significantly large social media that was
murdered basically by her boyfriend. And now there's a national
manhunt looking for Brian Laundry. But in reference that case.
The reason I bring this up is because the media
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is saying that, you know, the only reason this case
got so big is because the fact that she was white.
And this same media, CNN, these leftist news outlets, most
mainstream media doesn't talk about the missing brown women at
the border. They don't talk about the human trafficking or
the drug running or any of that. It's in my
opinion that they don't because if they did, it would
(15:43):
really shatter their narrative for wanting open borders. And I
think most people, if they truly knew what was happening
at the border, they would be advocating for a closed
border in a legal immigration process because they don't want
to be a part of a modern day slave trade.
But for someone who is very much so, I think
at the tip of the spear in this fight, right,
you are everything that I think a lot of Americans
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want to say but that they can't because they're you know,
it's fearful of being called racist. Obviously your Hispanic. Do
you think that the media is intentionally trying to divide
people based on race for more nefarious reasons? Absolutely? Look
at what happened during George Floyd and the BLM riots
and the amount of media coverage that received, not only
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media coverage, but I'll be frank here and saying corporate political.
The pressure that was put on and the narrative that
was created surrounding that whole case was clearly, uh, there
was an agenda behind that in a lot of ways.
Again not saying that what happened was uh, it was
obviously wrong, but look at the months and months of
(16:47):
coverage and the actual policies and and people speaking out,
the celebrities, the political leaders, and then I also think
back on Vanessa in was it for anness agen that right?
She was Hispanic and in the military, and that didn't
receive nearly as much coverage as what should have been
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a significant amount of coverage and and a lot of
questions that are still unanswered in that case. How is this?
I mean, this isn't even comparing, you know, apples to apples.
This is completely The media should do one thing, and
that's provide the facts, and especially in a case where
it's really parrowing whatever happened, UH, find out the truth
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and and that should be it doesn't matter race, gender, ethnicity. Uh.
And to say that it's just because uh, in this
situation the person is is white is just ridiculous. Right.
It's clear there's so many other cases where that has
not been the case. So interesting you bring up Vanessa again.
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I actually had the opportunity so her her family's attorneys
actually in Tampa Bay area. Her name is Natalie, and
I'm friends with her, so I was able to actually
meet vanessa gean sisters when they came out to actually
discuss the case. And what her younger sister was telling
me is that the media was trying to tie Vaness
again into George Floyd and her family is actually I
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wouldn't argue politically that they would consider themselves staunch Republicans,
but their value system is very conservative, so they're like
so many I think Spanish speaking Americans or first gen
that really has that conservative value system, but might not
necessarily know that their Republicans unless you were to actually
compare the two platforms and then remove the titles. So
(18:41):
it was interesting because they did say that they kind
of tried to paint it out as that, and as
soon as they were saying, well, no, this is about
our sister, and she was clearly you know, advocating for
herself to her leadership. There were some red flags prior
to this that really made her uncomfortable, and they ignored it.
They all all of a sudden kind of just like
switch one, eat out, didn't real we want to cover
the story. So it is true to say that if
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you're a minority and you go along with their narrative,
that they will blow up the story. But if you
speak out and you don't want to go with their narrative,
will essentially bury it. I do want to ask you
because I know that you and your sister are both
you know, young women. You're obviously running for Congress, and
there are a lot of I think this huge movement
(19:24):
within the now modern day feminism, which that's a whole
separate podcast. I think modern day feminism is actually an
abomination of true feminism, which would be that you can
really have an empowered platform as a woman, you can
be you know, provide for your family, not hate men
in the process, which is what I kind of feel
like modern day feminism has become. I want to ask
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you about women in the draft. I do have to
take one last commercial break, so we will be right back.
Sit tight, okay, Catalina. So women in the draft, if
you were in Congress today, what are your thoughts and
opinions on that? And would you vote for this? Uh? No,
I would not vote for it. The feminists have pushed
(20:06):
this so far to women and men have to be equal,
and I think they've completely undermined what they originally wanted
or this is what they've always wanted in the cultural
wars is what I like to call them, right, Uh,
they wanted this the whole time. But yeah, I think
when you read things like the Elliott and the Odyssey
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and the role of women when it came, and of
course I have so much respect for females in the military,
like yourself on a serve their country and wanted to
be there. That was the choice that you wanted to make, right,
I mean that was you did that because you wanted
to serve. And I again have so much respect for
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for women, but in terms of a draft, you know,
I think it's very important that we had the role
of women in wars prior, and you know, the contribution
back home in raising a family or having a family,
and and just kind of that. There's value to being
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a female and female, and there's value to being a
male and a male. Right, I mean, we're when we're
blurring these lines. It seems to me that there's always
obviously a nefarious agenda behind it. I think it's too
one of those things that you know, so here's the argument. Right,
You have women that say, okay, well women should be
a part of the draft, and they are the same
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women that refuse to acknowledge that there's actual biological differences
between men and women. Right, So like x x x
Y chromosomes, men produce more testosterone. They are made to
literally go out protect and basically fight. I'm sorry, but
if I'm you know, in an infantry unit and I
have a two hundred pound three pound dude who's like
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six five coming at me. I'm tiny, I'm gonna get trampled,
and that in itself. I think it's thing that a
lot of people don't consider when you have women that
are serving in different combat capacities. It's not that we
don't want women to be able to do everything that
men can do, but the fact is that there's physical limitations.
And ultimately, if that's what's being put at the front
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of that argument, well it can actually jeopardize an entire
unit and get people killed. And I think there's this
aspect of in our society. If you are conservative, your
first goal and objective is to protect women, to of
course empower them to do everything, but to make sure
that women are taken care of. And that's I think
a moral standard, right, Like if you're a Christian, it's
part of a Christian value system. If you're Jewish, it's
(22:36):
part of a Jewish value system. People want that, but
I feel like with the complete erosion of God from
the conversation of the depletion of I think our Christian
value system. And then you have this movement by people
who have never even served in the military Okay, we're
talking about people that sit at Capital Hill and think
that they can advise and that they know everything because
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they saw it in a book. They're not realizing the
direct impact this is happening in a country. My fear
is this, if we do get into a full fledged war,
World War three, you know, with China. Let's say, what
is going to happen to the moral of a country
if people's daughters are being drafted and sent to the
front lines. Could you imagine I mean, it's already hard
(23:19):
enough to lose your sons, but then to lose your
daughters two is a whole Another argument one, And who's
left right? When you look at drafts from World War Two,
Let's say, I mean the range of people serving was
from eighteen to like probably forty five to fifty. I
don't know what the age limit was. But then who
is left too? Also, and again I'm not just saying,
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you know, women should be the only ones out there
in corporate America or keeping the country going, but you're
also risking a large majority of your population. That also
comes with economics, procreation. You know, there's a lot, there's
a natural all kind of law here at play that
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they're trying to mess with when they do try to
include also females, and that to me when you know
members of Congress are trying to play god and trying
to get involved with everything it, you know, it's it's
really concerning. How about members of Congress, they are they
going to be drafted in in Congress who are pushing
stuff like this? Yeah, it's interesting some you know, some
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members their kids will end up magically not being drafted
during a draft, which is something that's happened historically. So
it is an interesting point that you bring up. But
it's you know, it's always interesting. Why did they all
of a sudden move for such an extreme measure to
make people automatically registered for the draft instead of saying, well,
people should do two years of mandatory service like they
do in the I D. F Right or in Israel.
(24:47):
It's such an extreme thing that they would just go
from point A to ze all of a sudden instead
of even giving people the option of you know, having that.
So um, I just want to thank you so much
for joining us today. For those who love Catalina, where
can they give and donate to you? Catalina for Congress
dot com and follow on all social media platforms. Catalina Lauf, Well, Catalina,
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we look forward to covering your journey. I really hope, hope, hope,
hope that you will make it into Congress because we
absolutely need your voice. And thank you for joining us
today on Luna Talks. Thank you. Before we go, I
want to thank Catalina Lauf again for such a great interview,
and I want to thank you guys so much for listening.
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