October 17, 2021 • 25 mins
The left likes to cry racist whenever a conservative clears their throat. For this podcast, Anna explains why that's so ironic by targeting the left's obsession with race. Remember, it's the left that segregates us through identity politics. And it's the left that tries to make minorities into victims. Anna would know: She's been on the receiving end of the left's racist attacks many times — as she details in this episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Up next, Luna Talks with Anna Paulina. Luna part of
the gang which the left legs to cry racist whenever
conservative clears your throat, which is ironic because it's left
that's obsessed with race, and trust me, I would know.
I've been on the receiving end of the left racist
attacks many times. This is Luna Talks with Anna Paulina.
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When I was thinking about this week's episode and how
I was going to actually introduce it, I it actually
brought me back to this documentary that I had watched
a few years back, and it was on the brown
paperbag test that was used early on during the segregation
era in regards to the color of people's skin and
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how that that test was used whether or not someone
was going to be determined as quote unquote white passing.
And the reason I bring that up is because I
feel like today, especially in society, if you are a
minority that's speaking out for your conservative values, you are
a many times and I know myself I've obviously been
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treated like this. But then also too many of my
friends who are within the conservative movement, whether they're commentators
or activists or even running for office, have had comments
about the color of their skin, whether or not they
are considered quote unquote whitewash. And so when you think
about that ideology in itself, that brown paper bag test
of leftist politics, I mean, think about the implications of that.
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You know, how I grew up, I wasn't raised racist.
My mom actually never even mentioned the fact that I
was any different because of the color of my skin. Granted,
my family in itself were a complete different shade of
the rainbow, right, Like, my mom's a little bit darker
than me, so are my brother and sister, and I'm
very light skinned, but that was never something that in
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our family was I was ever treated differently because of that.
And when I heard stories of my mom, how she
would tell me how she was growing up or what
she experienced, I guess with my father other side of
the family, you know, I always thought it was interesting
because there was this emphasis, at least within the Hispanic culture,
of the color of someone's skin. So my mom, again
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going back to how she is, my mom is is
darker skinned, and my grandmother, coming from Mexico, had this idea.
I guess that she wanted my dad to marry an
American woman, probably someone that was blonde. Obviously, my mom
is not blonde. My mom's very dark skinned at that
has dark hair. But you know, she told me stories
about how she really did hope that that wouldn't be
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an issue when I was born, and then as I
progressed kind of growing up, my little sister was born,
and I remember my little sister very innocently asking. She goes,
you know, Nana, that's what she called me, and I
was when she was younger, and she's, you know, like,
why are you so light? Like how come you don't
look like me? And my response in total honesty, and
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I do believe this is because God made me the
way that I am, right, Like, no one can help
being born the color that they're born. My brother is darker,
my mom, and you know, my family will somewhat joke,
they'll be like, oh, you're the one out of the family,
but they're not saying in an insulting term or ideology,
their meaning in an endearing form because it's a nickname.
I'm literally, quote unquote the whitey of the family. But
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I bring that up because as much as I saw
this kind of a little bit in my family growing up,
it never actually became the focus of my life or
like a topic of my everyday thought process until I
actually ran for office, and I could never understand why
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this would be something so like something as minimal as
literally like melanin production would be just like such a focus.
But in the political era that we are currently in,
identity politics and what drives a lot of people's divisive commentary.
It's based on race. And that's the ideology that you're
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constantly seeing, in my opinion, come out of the left
because they want to marginalize and basically segregate minorities from
even being able to talk with one another, and then
create this victim mentality in an effort, I think, to
push their legislation which is completely anti American. So I
mean when I just decided to run, people said because
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of my stances on immigration, I was called a coconut,
which you know, I laugh about it. How some of
you are probably like, what the heck is a coconut?
But for those that are Hispanic that are tuning in,
you know exactly what I'm talking about. It is when
you are quote unquote brown on the outside but white
on the inside. But it wasn't just you know, I'd
say like minorities calling me that it was white liberal.
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So I did have someone actually almost recently, they had
gone into my Twitter and because I was posting about
what was happening with the trafficking issue, the comment was,
and I just want you to picture this for a second.
They told me that I needed to get sterilized and
that I should be ashamed of who I am, and
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that my family should be embarrassed of me. But that
they had also mentioned along the lines of me being
like a lighter skinned basically white and not really Hispanic,
and that's something that on a regular basis. Again, I mean,
you think about the audacity of someone even saying that,
But I mean, why should I be Why should my
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family be ashamed of me? You know, I'm not ashamed
of who I am as a minority with a voice
of problem? Are women with a voice of problem? Like
what would cause someone to actually feel that because of
the fact that I am conservative, that they had the
right to bring that up. And then I think the
straw that really broke the camel's back, And really why
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I'm doing this episode is at a point in my
congressional run towards the end of the election, I hit
an interview that was essentially my breaking point, and that
pretty much left not just my campaign manager stocked, but
myself shocked. And we'll be right back after the short
break towards the end of my campaign. Again, going back
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to what I was saying earlier, there seemed to be
this focus on my skin color, but it actually got
really bad, to the point of I remember my mom
and my sister both being pretty upset about it because
there was a reporter that had actually reached out to
my extended family who am I really didn't talk to,
and they're also trying to track down my mom to
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see if I was quote unquote Hispanic. And I think
that's when the moment came where, you know, for me,
especially I, I had never been treated less than but
because of the fact that I'm lighter skinned, this reporter
had this stereotype in his brain, and because he was liberal,
it was apparently socially acceptable for him to tell me
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that essentially because I was fair skinned, that I wasn't
Hispanic enough. And then the point that it kind of
crossed the line with me where I actually had to
say something because I was out of veterans. Event there
was probably around eighty people ish there, and this reporter
who had been behind the scenes basically harassing my family
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and trying to find out this whatever he was looking for,
although he ended up obviously being completely wrong. He shows
up and he tries to tell my campaign manager, Grace,
that he just wanted to come take photos of myself
at this event and that he was going to say hi,
that he wasn't trying to do an interview or anything,
and that he was going to leave. And so my
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campaign manager comes over to me and she's like, Okay, look,
so and so's here. Um, I think that, you know,
just smile away to the camera. He's not doing an
interview or anything, and hopefully he'll just go away. Well
that wasn't until I went over, and then he, of
course sprang a very impromptu interview where he asked me
if he could ask me some questions about my Hispanic
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identity because I'm lighter skinned, ak white. And at that
point I looked at Grace and I looked back at him.
I looked at Grace. I goes, this guy's seria is
and I remember when he was asking those questions. I mean,
so many things come to mind, right, like was Obama
not black enough because of the fact that he was
part white. If I were to be on the flip
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side of this, and let's say that I was a
Democrat and a conservative reporter asked me that, in my opinion,
that person would automatically be considered either prejudice or racist.
But there seems to be this double standard that exists
because of the fact that I'm not a Democrat. And
then also too, I'm not ashamed of who I am.
I mean, I can't help the fact that I'm part
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why I can't help the part the fact that I'm
part Hispanic. But either way, in no way, shape or form,
should the color of my skin be a topic of discussion,
especially during a congressional race, because that is not what
I choose to focus on. And by the way, as
far as I'm concerned, if you've ever left the country
of the United States and traveled outside, you'll realize that
even in Mexico, Hispanic people that are Mexican are not
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just one color. In fact, where all shades. Whether you're blonde, hair, blood, yes,
that exists. If you ever want to see something watch
a Hispanic soap opera. You'll literally blonde haired and blue
eyed Mexican people, or you go down to you know,
the more indigenous areas, and there's gonna be darker skinned people.
It's just what happens in places like Mexican and also
too in places like the United States. But when you
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look at what the definition of racism is and how
society constantly tries to push this whole idea of having
white privilege and that someone cannot be a certain type
of minority because of the color of their skin, I
do believe that that that's an inherently racist ideology. You know,
am I only considered Hispanic in the summertime when I'm
dark enough, or is it that when I'm in the
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winter months that I'm not Hispanic at all? I mean,
that's how it honestly makes me feel when these people
ask these questions, Where was my white privilege when I
had to join the military to go to school and
my dad was in and out of jail? Or where
was my white privilege when I was on a campus
where there's a gang shooting or I got jumped because
the fact that I was in the wrong zip code?
I mean, is that where we've become in society that
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you're going to literally focus on that I do believe
to this day, and I don't think that I should
ever have to backtrack from this comment that the whole
idea of white privilege itself is a racist idea. Thinking
that someone is better off or worse than you because
of the color of your skin. That's just not how
it is raised. And I do believe that that is
a divisive and very dangerous ideology because of what it
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does to people, creating almost as victim mentality, thinking that
because someone is born darker that they might not be
as capable as someone who's lighter skin. That is completely
just welcome to the upside down world. But also to
this idea of stereotyping, that this reporter thought that it
was okay to group Hispanic people into just one category
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of just being dark. You know, here in the United States,
the group that's preaching this acceptance, the liberal and quote
unquote woke left, is the least accepting. Again, going back
to this, was Obama not black enough because he was
half white? And then our Hispanics only the dark skinned
help that were sombreros. I mean, are we only supposed
to look like speedy gonzol Us? Is what I ask
these people. You know, stereotyping and prejudice notions don't just
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change because you're part of a different political party, you know.
Ironically enough, my interaction with these ideologies and what I
consider hate from the left side of the political arena,
not from conservatives and libertarians or even independence, but from
the far left quote unquote progressives, is that they're so
quote unquote progressive they're at that they're actually regressive. And
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when you're using people's skin color and then you're starting
to resort at some of our Ivy League colleges around
the country, resorting back to segregated graduations in the name
of safe spaces. I mean, how much do you think
that Dr Martin Luther King would disagree with that ideology
in today's day and age. And for someone like myself
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that's bicultural and even for all arguments snakes by racial
you know, for a lot of people tuning in if
you are Hispanic, a lot of Hispanic people tend to
have Spaniard blood, so from band but then also a
large percentage Native American and then being part white on
top of that. I mean, all of these things together,
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where do I fit into what their stereotyped boxes? Are
for minorities, and the fact is is that myself and
so many people like me don't. And that's exactly why
our voices are silence, especially when we call people out
on this ridiculous ideology. So what this reminded me of
is probably one of the most impacting documentaries that I'll
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get to right after this short break. But I highly
encourage every single one of you to watch this with
your families because it's literally laying out I think the
impact long term that these dangerous ideologies of, you know,
this idea of white privilege or not being dark enough
to be a certain type of minority has emotionally on
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our children and on society. So we'll be back with
that right after the short break. So the documentary talking
about was actually done by Oprah and there was two
of them. One was called Light Skinned Girl and another
one was called Dark Skinned Girl. And I was always
very curious about this because when I was in the military,
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one of my best friends still to this day, of
both my husband and myself, his initials were Elsie, and
so Elsie was like my brother. He still is. He's
from Detroit, and I remember we would work probably twelve
hour shifts together, and then he was my roommate on
the side, so like we had a lot of time
where we would just discuss things and the thing and
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I'll kind of go back to the military on this
one is that I still am so glad to this
day because the military really did expose me and bring
me around people from all different walks of life. And
I would ask him sometimes about, you know, black culture
and what he experienced when he left Detroit, and I
remember him telling me stories about comments that he would
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get from some of the people back home. And ironically enough,
I had also heard this from my mom that she
was getting this from some of her friends about this
whole idea of quote unquote talking white, which means that
you're basically educated. I don't know why that it was
considered a almost negative thing, but that whole idea of
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I think how minorities feel that if you are essentially
embracing bettering yourself, that it's almost a negative thing. And
I'm not saying this as a blanket statement. I'm saying
this is something that's actually like a true issue within
I believe black and Hispanic culture. Is this idea that
if you are trying to better yourself or if you
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are breaking the stereotype that's put onto you by the
left that you are considered quote unquote whitewash. So after
watching this documentary, what I realized is that this has
been something that one we have to fix through the
education systems. Like I think that especially right now in
a day and age where they're pushing critical race theory,
that's actually the opposite of what we need to be
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doing because leftist ideology says that racism and culture acceptance
is based on their version of a skin chart, and
that's what the whole concept of that brown paper bag
test was is that in the days of segregation, you
had a brown paper bag and that if you were
that color or lighter than that, that you were considered
white passing, but if you were darker, you weren't. And
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that's what they used to actually segregate people. And that's
something that I believe, especially right now in this political
arena that's been created, and you have movements like BLM
who are literally focusing on skin color extremely divisive. You
have all of these movements that is placing people in
an area where they have to focus on that instead
of the content of people's characters. You know, this was
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an old ideology, but it's still happening to this day,
at least it feels like it. And if you're Hispanic
but you're not a certain shade, then you're considered less flan.
So I say, like, what is this? And I think
that that's an argument that we could all be using,
especially when we're having just these very blunt and honest
conversations with their friends and family. You know, at the
end of the day, I saw this incredible TikTok video
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and this guy says, why is it that society focuses
on race? If they stop talking about someone being a
black American or Hispanic American and just focus on the
fact that we're all American, it takes a lot of
that divisive speech out of the way. And at the
end of the day, I believe in God. I was
raised Catholic, but I consider myself a Christian. We're all
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a part of the human race. That means scientifically speaking
that we are ninety nine point nine percent related. So
if the only thing that we have to talk about
in one of the greatest countries in the world is
the fact that you know skin color because of melanin
is supposed to make someone less or better than. Then
It's not an issue with me. It's not an issue
with people that have mighty oology. It's an issue with
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people that are choosing to focus on that. And that's
what I choose to talk about is don't focus on that.
I my little brother all the time. You know you're
not less than because of the color of your skin, Like,
don't think that because you're darker that you're not capable.
And the people that try to tell you that are
those that are trying to create that victim mentality, and
that's something that you should absolutely reject because again, we're
born in one of the greatest countries in the world,
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and you can attain anything you want as long as
you set your mind to it. But in these thoughts
and realizations, I came to the conclusion that I wasn't
the only one. And the more that I was out
on the campaign trail, the more that I did at
grassroots activism nationally, and the more that I was actually
speaking at these different events. Especially I've gone out to
three different events for Turning Points Young Latino Leadership Summit,
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and every single event that I had gone to there,
I had had on multiple occasions, people agreeing when I
would tell this story about what happened with this interview,
or agreeing when I would tell people about how I
personally deal with all the hate that I get on
the internet. And it's sad. It's sad that apparently the
implication that you are quote unquote whitewash is something that
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is used to keep minorities in check by other minorities,
that you are a quote unquote race trader or not
really Hispanic because of the color of your skin, or
because you choose to reject the ideologies of the left.
I tell people all that's all the time. So if
I'm not Hispanic, when am I embrace my culture, I
embrace my maternal roots and my heritage. I honor my
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mother and her family because she raised me and as
a single woman in southern California, to raise me as
young as she did and choose not the easy path, okay,
because the easy path would have been to get an abortion.
She chose to literally take me on. She didn't know
what's going to happen. We obviously weren't well to do
at all, and yet we made it work. I'm not
ashamed of that at all, I'm not ashamed of hiding
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the fact that I am Hispanic. I'm not ashamed of
my roots. In fact, I'm very proud of it, because
my story and my culture makes me who I am.
And to give you guys a little bit of insight,
Hispanic culture in America is something that the media doesn't
really tend to talk about, right. I saw an interesting
quote the other day and it said that I'm a
made Latina, m A D. Not made Latina, m A
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I D like a Molly made. And I think that
that's interesting because you have these stereotypes that exist that
illegal immigrants are an assigned race of automatically being Mexican
Americans are automatically Hispanic, when an actuality illegal is not
a race. And the only reason they do that, and
they're not talking about the fact that you have people
on the terrorists watch lists that have recently been you know,
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caught at the border, is because of the fact that
they need people to play into their whole identity divisive
politics so that they can control the largest voting block
in US history, which is Mexican Americans. But going back
to history, you had the one hundred and fifty eight
Regiment combat team, the bush Masters, which was an infantry
guard unit in Arizona largely comprised of American mexic or
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Mexican Americans and Native Americans. And you see the history
that the Hispanic culture has contributed to the United States,
and it's incredible. Right before and a lot of people
talk about the case that actually broke segregation in America,
right which was Brown versus the Board of Education, But
a lot of people don't know that prior to that,
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about seven years prior, there was a Sylvia Mendez case
versus Westminister that actually ended segregation in in California altogether.
And that during World War Two, divisions of Hispanic soldiers
were actually called to fight the Japanese after going through
warfare training in South America because they were so good
at the jungle warfare operations that General MacArthur actually called
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them up and sent them to the Southwest Pacific theater
to fight. Or that the fact that missions all over
southern California, whether you're Northern California or not, places from
California to Texas to New Mexico to Arizona, even Florida
have a culture that you find that's basically deep with
Hispanic roots, but they don't talk about that. The media
tends to show Hispanics as the gardeners, the people that
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are in the fields picking, you know, vegetables. But the
fact is is that we're not just the help. There
are Hispanics that are doctors and lawyers and entrepreneurs and
business owners, all of these things. But if they were
to talk about that, they were to talk about the
fact that we've been empowered instead of victims, it completely
destroys their narrative. And so it makes you ask yourself,
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why is it that Hollywood, again that's supposed to be
this woke area, why is it that they have all
of these roles that they fill in their films with
people that are literally stereotyped as gang bangers or the
Chicano culture is actually used just to promote a certain
stereotype instead of actually showing what it is, which is
so much more than that. And if you approach a
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conservative and they you ever talked to them, and they
ask you about your values, the issue is never about
the color of your skin. And so I tell people
vote on your values. I was raised Catholic again with
my mom, I'm pro life, and you know, who else's
pro life with Selena. For those who might not know
who Selena was, she was one of the most I
think the biggest cultural icons for Hispanic Americans, but also too,
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she was an amazing recording artist and she was huge
in the nineties. She was actually from Texas, but she
was extremely pro life, and she actually was born here
in the United States. She did not speak Spanish. She
actually later on learned some that so that she could communicate.
But she is literally like, when you think of Hispanic
culture in the United States, you think of Selena, and
everyone even in my generation, even gen Z knows who
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Selena is. That's how impactful she was, you know. I
believe in freedom of religion. I believe that you should
care for your family and honor your parents and love
and take care of them, or that you should have
big families and teach those children to be good human beings.
I believe that you should stand up for what's right
and fight against those things that are wrong. And those
are the values that I learned because of my family.
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That cultural importance, I think that that was largely based
in faith as well. But I believe that the Hispanic
voting block in this country especially being how grounded we
are among our families. You know, you have about a
third a third and a third that's considered Reublican, a
third that's considered democrat, or you could say, you know,
conservative or liberal, and then you have this third that's
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in between that's kind of you know, leans on cultural values,
but maybe not necessarily has been approached to say, hey,
look your values. If there's one thing, maybe you don't
necessarily like party titles, but vote on what your values are.
You know, we've been here since before seventeen seventy six.
We're inherently conservative. Were now the largest voting minority in
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the country. And I do believe that if we stick
together that we can actually unite this and stop the
nonsense with the focusing on the skin color instead of
actual issues that we have at hand here. But these
issues that the media that these establishment politicos used to
divide this country. It's sad because you should never be
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told to vote based on your skin color. Right, everyone
tuning in now will realize that there's no such thing
as one shade of hispanic. And then when they try
to hurt you and say that your X, Y and
Z because you don't agree with them, come back at
them with the facts. You know, never allow anyone to
tell you that you are a victim because of the
color of your skin or because of your ethnic heritage.
That doesn't just go for the Hispanic vote, right, that
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goes for Black Americans as well, that goes for Native
Americans as well. I think that obviously we need change
all over, right, like we need change within the GOP
to have I think, strong leaders with strong backbones that
can go to these communities and to tell their stories
and get people elected that understand what poor policy can
do to them. But if there's one thing that I
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realized is a problem and is continue to be a
problem in our communities, it's this focus and this emphasis
on skin color. So continue, please to wake up your
friends and family members and share these stories with them.
And I'm sure so many of you have maybe experienced this,
and I know sometimes you know, especially on the topic
of skin color and especially on the topic of race,
it can make people uncomfortable. But if we don't talk
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about these things because we're afraid of the reactions that
we might get, then I do believe that we're not
helping to forward our society, to forward our culture, and
that also to if we stay silent and we let
these people continue to push for segregated you know, college
graduations or critical race theory, that we're only going to
further divide this country instead of focusing on the ideas
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that even Dr Martin Luther King did, which was focusing
on the content of someone's character versus the color of
their skin. Before we go, I want to thank you
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you to our producer Drew Steele, writer Aaron Kleigman, and
researcher Stanton Bryson, as well as executive producers Debbie Myers
and Speaker New Gingridge, part of the Gingridge three sixty
network
Up next, Luna Talks with Anna Paulina. Luna part of
the gang which the left legs to cry racist whenever
conservative clears your throat, which is ironic because it's left
that's obsessed with race, and trust me, I would know.
I've been on the receiving end of the left racist
attacks many times. This is Luna Talks with Anna Paulina.
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When I was thinking about this week's episode and how
I was going to actually introduce it, I it actually
brought me back to this documentary that I had watched
a few years back, and it was on the brown
paperbag test that was used early on during the segregation
era in regards to the color of people's skin and
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how that that test was used whether or not someone
was going to be determined as quote unquote white passing.
And the reason I bring that up is because I
feel like today, especially in society, if you are a
minority that's speaking out for your conservative values, you are
a many times and I know myself I've obviously been
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treated like this. But then also too many of my
friends who are within the conservative movement, whether they're commentators
or activists or even running for office, have had comments
about the color of their skin, whether or not they
are considered quote unquote whitewash. And so when you think
about that ideology in itself, that brown paper bag test
of leftist politics, I mean, think about the implications of that.
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You know, how I grew up, I wasn't raised racist.
My mom actually never even mentioned the fact that I
was any different because of the color of my skin. Granted,
my family in itself were a complete different shade of
the rainbow, right, Like, my mom's a little bit darker
than me, so are my brother and sister, and I'm
very light skinned, but that was never something that in
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our family was I was ever treated differently because of that.
And when I heard stories of my mom, how she
would tell me how she was growing up or what
she experienced, I guess with my father other side of
the family, you know, I always thought it was interesting
because there was this emphasis, at least within the Hispanic culture,
of the color of someone's skin. So my mom, again
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going back to how she is, my mom is is
darker skinned, and my grandmother, coming from Mexico, had this idea.
I guess that she wanted my dad to marry an
American woman, probably someone that was blonde. Obviously, my mom
is not blonde. My mom's very dark skinned at that
has dark hair. But you know, she told me stories
about how she really did hope that that wouldn't be
(02:32):
an issue when I was born, and then as I
progressed kind of growing up, my little sister was born,
and I remember my little sister very innocently asking. She goes,
you know, Nana, that's what she called me, and I
was when she was younger, and she's, you know, like,
why are you so light? Like how come you don't
look like me? And my response in total honesty, and
(02:53):
I do believe this is because God made me the
way that I am, right, Like, no one can help
being born the color that they're born. My brother is darker,
my mom, and you know, my family will somewhat joke,
they'll be like, oh, you're the one out of the family,
but they're not saying in an insulting term or ideology,
their meaning in an endearing form because it's a nickname.
I'm literally, quote unquote the whitey of the family. But
(03:16):
I bring that up because as much as I saw
this kind of a little bit in my family growing up,
it never actually became the focus of my life or
like a topic of my everyday thought process until I
actually ran for office, and I could never understand why
(03:37):
this would be something so like something as minimal as
literally like melanin production would be just like such a focus.
But in the political era that we are currently in,
identity politics and what drives a lot of people's divisive commentary.
It's based on race. And that's the ideology that you're
(03:57):
constantly seeing, in my opinion, come out of the left
because they want to marginalize and basically segregate minorities from
even being able to talk with one another, and then
create this victim mentality in an effort, I think, to
push their legislation which is completely anti American. So I
mean when I just decided to run, people said because
(04:18):
of my stances on immigration, I was called a coconut,
which you know, I laugh about it. How some of
you are probably like, what the heck is a coconut?
But for those that are Hispanic that are tuning in,
you know exactly what I'm talking about. It is when
you are quote unquote brown on the outside but white
on the inside. But it wasn't just you know, I'd
say like minorities calling me that it was white liberal.
(04:39):
So I did have someone actually almost recently, they had
gone into my Twitter and because I was posting about
what was happening with the trafficking issue, the comment was,
and I just want you to picture this for a second.
They told me that I needed to get sterilized and
that I should be ashamed of who I am, and
(05:00):
that my family should be embarrassed of me. But that
they had also mentioned along the lines of me being
like a lighter skinned basically white and not really Hispanic,
and that's something that on a regular basis. Again, I mean,
you think about the audacity of someone even saying that,
But I mean, why should I be Why should my
(05:21):
family be ashamed of me? You know, I'm not ashamed
of who I am as a minority with a voice
of problem? Are women with a voice of problem? Like
what would cause someone to actually feel that because of
the fact that I am conservative, that they had the
right to bring that up. And then I think the
straw that really broke the camel's back, And really why
(05:41):
I'm doing this episode is at a point in my
congressional run towards the end of the election, I hit
an interview that was essentially my breaking point, and that
pretty much left not just my campaign manager stocked, but
myself shocked. And we'll be right back after the short
break towards the end of my campaign. Again, going back
(06:06):
to what I was saying earlier, there seemed to be
this focus on my skin color, but it actually got
really bad, to the point of I remember my mom
and my sister both being pretty upset about it because
there was a reporter that had actually reached out to
my extended family who am I really didn't talk to,
and they're also trying to track down my mom to
(06:26):
see if I was quote unquote Hispanic. And I think
that's when the moment came where, you know, for me,
especially I, I had never been treated less than but
because of the fact that I'm lighter skinned, this reporter
had this stereotype in his brain, and because he was liberal,
it was apparently socially acceptable for him to tell me
(06:48):
that essentially because I was fair skinned, that I wasn't
Hispanic enough. And then the point that it kind of
crossed the line with me where I actually had to
say something because I was out of veterans. Event there
was probably around eighty people ish there, and this reporter
who had been behind the scenes basically harassing my family
(07:09):
and trying to find out this whatever he was looking for,
although he ended up obviously being completely wrong. He shows
up and he tries to tell my campaign manager, Grace,
that he just wanted to come take photos of myself
at this event and that he was going to say hi,
that he wasn't trying to do an interview or anything,
and that he was going to leave. And so my
(07:30):
campaign manager comes over to me and she's like, Okay, look,
so and so's here. Um, I think that, you know,
just smile away to the camera. He's not doing an
interview or anything, and hopefully he'll just go away. Well
that wasn't until I went over, and then he, of
course sprang a very impromptu interview where he asked me
if he could ask me some questions about my Hispanic
(07:50):
identity because I'm lighter skinned, ak white. And at that
point I looked at Grace and I looked back at him.
I looked at Grace. I goes, this guy's seria is
and I remember when he was asking those questions. I mean,
so many things come to mind, right, like was Obama
not black enough because of the fact that he was
part white. If I were to be on the flip
(08:11):
side of this, and let's say that I was a
Democrat and a conservative reporter asked me that, in my opinion,
that person would automatically be considered either prejudice or racist.
But there seems to be this double standard that exists
because of the fact that I'm not a Democrat. And
then also too, I'm not ashamed of who I am.
I mean, I can't help the fact that I'm part
(08:32):
why I can't help the part the fact that I'm
part Hispanic. But either way, in no way, shape or form,
should the color of my skin be a topic of discussion,
especially during a congressional race, because that is not what
I choose to focus on. And by the way, as
far as I'm concerned, if you've ever left the country
of the United States and traveled outside, you'll realize that
even in Mexico, Hispanic people that are Mexican are not
(08:55):
just one color. In fact, where all shades. Whether you're blonde, hair, blood, yes,
that exists. If you ever want to see something watch
a Hispanic soap opera. You'll literally blonde haired and blue
eyed Mexican people, or you go down to you know,
the more indigenous areas, and there's gonna be darker skinned people.
It's just what happens in places like Mexican and also
too in places like the United States. But when you
(09:15):
look at what the definition of racism is and how
society constantly tries to push this whole idea of having
white privilege and that someone cannot be a certain type
of minority because of the color of their skin, I
do believe that that that's an inherently racist ideology. You know,
am I only considered Hispanic in the summertime when I'm
dark enough, or is it that when I'm in the
(09:38):
winter months that I'm not Hispanic at all? I mean,
that's how it honestly makes me feel when these people
ask these questions, Where was my white privilege when I
had to join the military to go to school and
my dad was in and out of jail? Or where
was my white privilege when I was on a campus
where there's a gang shooting or I got jumped because
the fact that I was in the wrong zip code?
I mean, is that where we've become in society that
(09:58):
you're going to literally focus on that I do believe
to this day, and I don't think that I should
ever have to backtrack from this comment that the whole
idea of white privilege itself is a racist idea. Thinking
that someone is better off or worse than you because
of the color of your skin. That's just not how
it is raised. And I do believe that that is
a divisive and very dangerous ideology because of what it
(10:20):
does to people, creating almost as victim mentality, thinking that
because someone is born darker that they might not be
as capable as someone who's lighter skin. That is completely
just welcome to the upside down world. But also to
this idea of stereotyping, that this reporter thought that it
was okay to group Hispanic people into just one category
(10:40):
of just being dark. You know, here in the United States,
the group that's preaching this acceptance, the liberal and quote
unquote woke left, is the least accepting. Again, going back
to this, was Obama not black enough because he was
half white? And then our Hispanics only the dark skinned
help that were sombreros. I mean, are we only supposed
to look like speedy gonzol Us? Is what I ask
these people. You know, stereotyping and prejudice notions don't just
(11:04):
change because you're part of a different political party, you know.
Ironically enough, my interaction with these ideologies and what I
consider hate from the left side of the political arena,
not from conservatives and libertarians or even independence, but from
the far left quote unquote progressives, is that they're so
quote unquote progressive they're at that they're actually regressive. And
(11:26):
when you're using people's skin color and then you're starting
to resort at some of our Ivy League colleges around
the country, resorting back to segregated graduations in the name
of safe spaces. I mean, how much do you think
that Dr Martin Luther King would disagree with that ideology
in today's day and age. And for someone like myself
(11:47):
that's bicultural and even for all arguments snakes by racial
you know, for a lot of people tuning in if
you are Hispanic, a lot of Hispanic people tend to
have Spaniard blood, so from band but then also a
large percentage Native American and then being part white on
top of that. I mean, all of these things together,
(12:09):
where do I fit into what their stereotyped boxes? Are
for minorities, and the fact is is that myself and
so many people like me don't. And that's exactly why
our voices are silence, especially when we call people out
on this ridiculous ideology. So what this reminded me of
is probably one of the most impacting documentaries that I'll
(12:32):
get to right after this short break. But I highly
encourage every single one of you to watch this with
your families because it's literally laying out I think the
impact long term that these dangerous ideologies of, you know,
this idea of white privilege or not being dark enough
to be a certain type of minority has emotionally on
(12:55):
our children and on society. So we'll be back with
that right after the short break. So the documentary talking
about was actually done by Oprah and there was two
of them. One was called Light Skinned Girl and another
one was called Dark Skinned Girl. And I was always
very curious about this because when I was in the military,
(13:17):
one of my best friends still to this day, of
both my husband and myself, his initials were Elsie, and
so Elsie was like my brother. He still is. He's
from Detroit, and I remember we would work probably twelve
hour shifts together, and then he was my roommate on
the side, so like we had a lot of time
where we would just discuss things and the thing and
(13:37):
I'll kind of go back to the military on this
one is that I still am so glad to this
day because the military really did expose me and bring
me around people from all different walks of life. And
I would ask him sometimes about, you know, black culture
and what he experienced when he left Detroit, and I
remember him telling me stories about comments that he would
(13:58):
get from some of the people back home. And ironically enough,
I had also heard this from my mom that she
was getting this from some of her friends about this
whole idea of quote unquote talking white, which means that
you're basically educated. I don't know why that it was
considered a almost negative thing, but that whole idea of
(14:22):
I think how minorities feel that if you are essentially
embracing bettering yourself, that it's almost a negative thing. And
I'm not saying this as a blanket statement. I'm saying
this is something that's actually like a true issue within
I believe black and Hispanic culture. Is this idea that
if you are trying to better yourself or if you
(14:44):
are breaking the stereotype that's put onto you by the
left that you are considered quote unquote whitewash. So after
watching this documentary, what I realized is that this has
been something that one we have to fix through the
education systems. Like I think that especially right now in
a day and age where they're pushing critical race theory,
that's actually the opposite of what we need to be
(15:06):
doing because leftist ideology says that racism and culture acceptance
is based on their version of a skin chart, and
that's what the whole concept of that brown paper bag
test was is that in the days of segregation, you
had a brown paper bag and that if you were
that color or lighter than that, that you were considered
white passing, but if you were darker, you weren't. And
(15:27):
that's what they used to actually segregate people. And that's
something that I believe, especially right now in this political
arena that's been created, and you have movements like BLM
who are literally focusing on skin color extremely divisive. You
have all of these movements that is placing people in
an area where they have to focus on that instead
of the content of people's characters. You know, this was
(15:50):
an old ideology, but it's still happening to this day,
at least it feels like it. And if you're Hispanic
but you're not a certain shade, then you're considered less flan.
So I say, like, what is this? And I think
that that's an argument that we could all be using,
especially when we're having just these very blunt and honest
conversations with their friends and family. You know, at the
end of the day, I saw this incredible TikTok video
(16:12):
and this guy says, why is it that society focuses
on race? If they stop talking about someone being a
black American or Hispanic American and just focus on the
fact that we're all American, it takes a lot of
that divisive speech out of the way. And at the
end of the day, I believe in God. I was
raised Catholic, but I consider myself a Christian. We're all
(16:34):
a part of the human race. That means scientifically speaking
that we are ninety nine point nine percent related. So
if the only thing that we have to talk about
in one of the greatest countries in the world is
the fact that you know skin color because of melanin
is supposed to make someone less or better than. Then
It's not an issue with me. It's not an issue
with people that have mighty oology. It's an issue with
(16:55):
people that are choosing to focus on that. And that's
what I choose to talk about is don't focus on that.
I my little brother all the time. You know you're
not less than because of the color of your skin, Like,
don't think that because you're darker that you're not capable.
And the people that try to tell you that are
those that are trying to create that victim mentality, and
that's something that you should absolutely reject because again, we're
born in one of the greatest countries in the world,
(17:16):
and you can attain anything you want as long as
you set your mind to it. But in these thoughts
and realizations, I came to the conclusion that I wasn't
the only one. And the more that I was out
on the campaign trail, the more that I did at
grassroots activism nationally, and the more that I was actually
speaking at these different events. Especially I've gone out to
three different events for Turning Points Young Latino Leadership Summit,
(17:39):
and every single event that I had gone to there,
I had had on multiple occasions, people agreeing when I
would tell this story about what happened with this interview,
or agreeing when I would tell people about how I
personally deal with all the hate that I get on
the internet. And it's sad. It's sad that apparently the
implication that you are quote unquote whitewash is something that
(18:00):
is used to keep minorities in check by other minorities,
that you are a quote unquote race trader or not
really Hispanic because of the color of your skin, or
because you choose to reject the ideologies of the left.
I tell people all that's all the time. So if
I'm not Hispanic, when am I embrace my culture, I
embrace my maternal roots and my heritage. I honor my
(18:22):
mother and her family because she raised me and as
a single woman in southern California, to raise me as
young as she did and choose not the easy path, okay,
because the easy path would have been to get an abortion.
She chose to literally take me on. She didn't know
what's going to happen. We obviously weren't well to do
at all, and yet we made it work. I'm not
ashamed of that at all, I'm not ashamed of hiding
(18:43):
the fact that I am Hispanic. I'm not ashamed of
my roots. In fact, I'm very proud of it, because
my story and my culture makes me who I am.
And to give you guys a little bit of insight,
Hispanic culture in America is something that the media doesn't
really tend to talk about, right. I saw an interesting
quote the other day and it said that I'm a
made Latina, m A D. Not made Latina, m A
(19:06):
I D like a Molly made. And I think that
that's interesting because you have these stereotypes that exist that
illegal immigrants are an assigned race of automatically being Mexican
Americans are automatically Hispanic, when an actuality illegal is not
a race. And the only reason they do that, and
they're not talking about the fact that you have people
on the terrorists watch lists that have recently been you know,
(19:27):
caught at the border, is because of the fact that
they need people to play into their whole identity divisive
politics so that they can control the largest voting block
in US history, which is Mexican Americans. But going back
to history, you had the one hundred and fifty eight
Regiment combat team, the bush Masters, which was an infantry
guard unit in Arizona largely comprised of American mexic or
(19:49):
Mexican Americans and Native Americans. And you see the history
that the Hispanic culture has contributed to the United States,
and it's incredible. Right before and a lot of people
talk about the case that actually broke segregation in America,
right which was Brown versus the Board of Education, But
a lot of people don't know that prior to that,
(20:10):
about seven years prior, there was a Sylvia Mendez case
versus Westminister that actually ended segregation in in California altogether.
And that during World War Two, divisions of Hispanic soldiers
were actually called to fight the Japanese after going through
warfare training in South America because they were so good
at the jungle warfare operations that General MacArthur actually called
(20:31):
them up and sent them to the Southwest Pacific theater
to fight. Or that the fact that missions all over
southern California, whether you're Northern California or not, places from
California to Texas to New Mexico to Arizona, even Florida
have a culture that you find that's basically deep with
Hispanic roots, but they don't talk about that. The media
tends to show Hispanics as the gardeners, the people that
(20:55):
are in the fields picking, you know, vegetables. But the
fact is is that we're not just the help. There
are Hispanics that are doctors and lawyers and entrepreneurs and
business owners, all of these things. But if they were
to talk about that, they were to talk about the
fact that we've been empowered instead of victims, it completely
destroys their narrative. And so it makes you ask yourself,
(21:17):
why is it that Hollywood, again that's supposed to be
this woke area, why is it that they have all
of these roles that they fill in their films with
people that are literally stereotyped as gang bangers or the
Chicano culture is actually used just to promote a certain
stereotype instead of actually showing what it is, which is
so much more than that. And if you approach a
(21:37):
conservative and they you ever talked to them, and they
ask you about your values, the issue is never about
the color of your skin. And so I tell people
vote on your values. I was raised Catholic again with
my mom, I'm pro life, and you know, who else's
pro life with Selena. For those who might not know
who Selena was, she was one of the most I
think the biggest cultural icons for Hispanic Americans, but also too,
(22:00):
she was an amazing recording artist and she was huge
in the nineties. She was actually from Texas, but she
was extremely pro life, and she actually was born here
in the United States. She did not speak Spanish. She
actually later on learned some that so that she could communicate.
But she is literally like, when you think of Hispanic
culture in the United States, you think of Selena, and
everyone even in my generation, even gen Z knows who
(22:22):
Selena is. That's how impactful she was, you know. I
believe in freedom of religion. I believe that you should
care for your family and honor your parents and love
and take care of them, or that you should have
big families and teach those children to be good human beings.
I believe that you should stand up for what's right
and fight against those things that are wrong. And those
are the values that I learned because of my family.
(22:43):
That cultural importance, I think that that was largely based
in faith as well. But I believe that the Hispanic
voting block in this country especially being how grounded we
are among our families. You know, you have about a
third a third and a third that's considered Reublican, a
third that's considered democrat, or you could say, you know,
conservative or liberal, and then you have this third that's
(23:06):
in between that's kind of you know, leans on cultural values,
but maybe not necessarily has been approached to say, hey,
look your values. If there's one thing, maybe you don't
necessarily like party titles, but vote on what your values are.
You know, we've been here since before seventeen seventy six.
We're inherently conservative. Were now the largest voting minority in
(23:26):
the country. And I do believe that if we stick
together that we can actually unite this and stop the
nonsense with the focusing on the skin color instead of
actual issues that we have at hand here. But these
issues that the media that these establishment politicos used to
divide this country. It's sad because you should never be
(23:47):
told to vote based on your skin color. Right, everyone
tuning in now will realize that there's no such thing
as one shade of hispanic. And then when they try
to hurt you and say that your X, Y and
Z because you don't agree with them, come back at
them with the facts. You know, never allow anyone to
tell you that you are a victim because of the
color of your skin or because of your ethnic heritage.
That doesn't just go for the Hispanic vote, right, that
(24:09):
goes for Black Americans as well, that goes for Native
Americans as well. I think that obviously we need change
all over, right, like we need change within the GOP
to have I think, strong leaders with strong backbones that
can go to these communities and to tell their stories
and get people elected that understand what poor policy can
do to them. But if there's one thing that I
(24:33):
realized is a problem and is continue to be a
problem in our communities, it's this focus and this emphasis
on skin color. So continue, please to wake up your
friends and family members and share these stories with them.
And I'm sure so many of you have maybe experienced this,
and I know sometimes you know, especially on the topic
of skin color and especially on the topic of race,
it can make people uncomfortable. But if we don't talk
(24:54):
about these things because we're afraid of the reactions that
we might get, then I do believe that we're not
helping to forward our society, to forward our culture, and
that also to if we stay silent and we let
these people continue to push for segregated you know, college
graduations or critical race theory, that we're only going to
further divide this country instead of focusing on the ideas
(25:16):
that even Dr Martin Luther King did, which was focusing
on the content of someone's character versus the color of
their skin. Before we go, I want to thank you
guys so much for listening. If you've enjoyed today's show,
please leave us a review and rate us five stars
on Apple Podcasts. You can also find me on Parlor, Facebook, Twitter,
and Instagram at real Ana Paulina. And a special thank
(25:39):
you to our producer Drew Steele, writer Aaron Kleigman, and
researcher Stanton Bryson, as well as executive producers Debbie Myers
and Speaker New Gingridge, part of the Gingridge three sixty
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