October 31, 2021 • 21 mins
The Biden administration is radically changing America for the worst. From crushing our freedom to weakening our national security, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and the progressive left are doing lasting damage. For this podcast, Newsmax host and former Trump press secretary Sean Spicer joins Anna to examine just how bad things are in Joe Biden’s America and the future of politics in this country. They dig into Spicer's new book, Radical Nation: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris's Dangerous Plan for America, which takes a comprehensive look at the Biden administration, really detailing what’s rotten in America. Plus, they discuss the issues of the day that are on the minds of the American people.
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Up next, Luna Talks with Anna Paulina. Luna part of
the gang which the Biden administration is radically changing America
for the worst. From crushing our freedom to weakening our
national security. Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and the progressive left
are doing the lasting damage. Today we examine just how
(00:20):
bad things are in Joe Biden's America and the future
of politics in this country. This is Luna Talks with
On a Paulina. Welcome back everyone to today's episode of
Luna Talks with Me, your host on a Paulina Luna.
As you know, this past week, we've been really covering
down on the mother of all caravans, something that the
(00:42):
mainstream media is not wanting to really talk about, that
is heading to our southern border. We are now getting
reports stating that this caravan is going to be upwards
of sixty thousand people. I can tell you that they
are well organized and apparently well funded. They are using
QR codes actually to share information and to coordinate. And
(01:03):
then earlier this week on Monday, there was viral footage
that actually broke out posted by Griff Jenkins on Twitter
where he talks about the migrant caravan that entered Mexico
that was basically busting through the national guard blockade that
they had in Mexico in order to make their way
up to North America. Now, a few things about this. Yes,
(01:27):
this is a huge issue with bogging down the immigration system,
but there's a massive, massive national security aspect of this
that no one's really talking about. The only article that
I've really been able to find so far is an
article ironically posted by Fox News of all things, that
just was posted on Tuesday, talking about amid migrant surge,
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nationals from Russia, India, China encountered at the US southern border.
Now why would this be all arming? Well, we know
that China is not our friend, we know that Russia
is not our friend. And these people literally getting access
into our country without being tracked. I mean, there is
a number of issues, not to mention, there's a massive
(02:13):
health crisis. Ironically enough, you know here in the United States,
Biden literally just announced that he wants to make anyone
in coming to the US show proof of their COVID
vaccination status and or provide a negative test. Yet they
don't seem to be worried about those coming in at
the southern border. I wonder, I just wonder why that
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might be. So I wanted to bring someone in, someone
that I've actually really respected for some time now that
you may all know from his time at the White House,
a gentleman by the name of Sean Spicer. You may
recognize him from being President Donald Trump's Press secretary, and
he is now an amazing host on a show that
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airs weekly Monday through Friday on news Max, Spicer and Co.
So he's agree to join us today to discuss this
exact issue, as well as an upcoming book that he
has focusing on the Kamala and Biden administration, something that
we are starting to see literally unravel. I don't say
that to be me and I say that to be honest.
They are literally imploding, you see. S And now that's
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actually for the first time decided to target Joe Biden
on their skits, who brings out three versions of them,
which is something that we should all kind of be tracking.
I do think, you know, this is just kind of
my spidy senses tingling that Kamala's team may or may
not have had something to do with that. It definitely
seems like she's making plans to be the Democrat front
runner in although I don't think that she'll win because
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from what we're hearing President Trump hopefully by then we'll
be redeclared in his candidacy for president. And I'll point
out one more thing, everything that we're seeing at the
southern border currently that is absolutely going to be a
campaign issue in I don't think it is by mistake
that these caravans are getting to the US Mexico border
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right on the eve around the same time period that
President Biden has to sign and extend the Remain in
Mexico policy that was a carryover from the Trump administration.
It's very interesting that the migrants, these illegals that are
basically marching up here are saying, tell Biden, we are
coming as they march their way up to the US
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border through Mexico. You have massive, massive organizers for this,
and frankly, like I had mentioned earlier, the group that's
organizing this is doing it all through QR code that's
basically allowing anyone to do this march to register starting
October fift so they've been coordinating this for many, many,
many months. It started with mainly migrants from Central America,
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South America and Haitians. But it's an over two thousand,
five hundred mile journey to Texas from some of these locations,
and the fact is is that they would not be
coming here if this administration didn't actively campaign on these
illegal immigration pro open border stances that they had been
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campaigning on throughout their entire election cycle. Not to mention,
they seem to think that illegal immigration is the quote
unquote humanitarian thing, when in actuality, it is the least
humanitarian thing that you can do. And so many people
are getting hurt on a regular basis, yet they don't
want to talk about it. They want to only want
to talk about it when it's brown people versus white people,
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or white people versus black people. But when they actually
want to fix the issues, they don't even want to
discuss it or touch it because it absolutely shatters their narrative.
So the moral of this story is that, yes, this
administration is going to have a lot of explaining to do.
I definitely know that in two it's saying that we
are estimated to pick up about fifty five seats. I
think that this is largely going to be a part
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of it. In addition to inflation, that we're seeing. They're
saying this year for Thanksgiving terribly enough that it's going
to be one of the most expensive years for Thanksgiving
ever because of the inflation that we're seeing. And then
to top it off with the hypocrisy, headlines say that
Biden has his beach home that's being fenced, paid for
by your tax dollars after halting border wall construction. So
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he gets a fence at his private beach home, but
we here in the United States don't when there's been
literally one point seven million migrants arrested at the southern
border in the last twelve months according to CBP data.
I mean, how hypocritical is that? And I just want
to throw it in there that his taxpayer funded security
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fence at his private home in Delaware, the fence is
going to be four hundred and fifty six thousand, five
hundred and forty eight dollars, Yet he doesn't want to
put that towards what's happening at the southern border. So
that's further ADO. I would like to bring on Shaun Spicer.
We will be joined with him right after this quick
commercial break. Sit tight, and we'll be right back. I'm
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here today with the amazing. Sean Spicer formally known and
work with the White House also too, has an amazing
show on news. Mac Sewan, thank you so much for
joining us today here on Luna Talks. It's great to
be on your show. I love having you on mind
every ninety six o'clock. So it's it's nice to have
the tables turned a little absolutely. I mean, we know
that you did an incredible job when you were with
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the Trump administration, but to kind of segue out of
that now with your own show, what do you see
as a feature of politics, especially being that America versus
going nowhere? Well, I mean, I think it depends on
on what side of the aisle you're on. The point,
uh that I make in my new book is that
people need to get out there and get engaged. And
I'm actually excited when I see the school board meetings
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and these parents getting engaged, people wanting to run for
office that hadn't been involved in the process. I think
President Trump has a lot to do with that that people.
I know you're you have engaged in the process and
and continue to stay engaged in a lot of ways.
But that's what's important, is the left winds when we
are complacent, silent or canceled. And so the more folks
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that get the message that whether it's hey, I want
to go post stuff on Facebook, I want to run
for office myself, I want to go speak a school
board meeting, we need to get our voices hurt and
um and I think frankly, we we need to expose
the hypocrisy, the double standards, the lies to the other side,
but then present our case very sucinctly, because I don't
think there's an issue that whether it's immigration or tax
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cuts or what have you, that when you lay out
the conservative cause in case, most people except the extreme leftist,
we'll say, you know what, that makes more sense. And
so I think we have there's so much at stake,
we've got to we've got to engage more and make
the case for our side. Absolutely. So you'd mentioned your
new book. What is it called? When can we buy it?
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It's um, it's called Radical Nation. It is out right now. Uh. Literally,
you can either go to Amazon, you can go to
newsmax dot com twenty slash twenty three and there's a
link that will take you straight to Amazon. But it's
in Costcos and Barnes and Nobles and airports. Um. It's
the first comprehensive look at the bid Harrison administration, and
it looks at the people. I mean, for example, I
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talked about Dennis McDonald, why he's not qualified to lead
the v A. Why Pepe Buddha, who when he was
mayor of South ben Indiana oversaw sixty excuse me, sixty
six busses and now he's in charge of our railways, seaways, highways.
I mean, the wonder why we have a crisis of
the ports because you have a guy who's thirty eight
years old that was hired at Secretary Transportation to check
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a box and he was also on maternity leave right
when all of these basically cargo ships were, you know,
building up on it is terrible. Well, and he didn't
tell anybody that was The other thing is said, it's
one thing to to do it, it's another thing in
the middle of a crisis to not let anyone know
that you're doing it and then take off. And so
but I think regardless, he was the wrong person for
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the job. And then we talked about the policies, UM.
And I think the thing that is so crucial about
the book is that it explains the real agenda that's happening,
because everything from making DC estate to spend trillions of
dollars to letting people flow over the southern border is
all in pursuit of political power. The Democrats want to
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ensure that they can continue to pass progressive policies. So
if they make DC a state, they get two additional senators.
If they allow people to flow over the southern border,
they have additional voters that you know, in five twenty years,
they know what they're doing. And I think conservatives need
to understand the agenda that's at hand and what they're
trying to achieve. I talked about this in the book.
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Joe Biden says in here, well he said it and
I put it in here that he was going to
be the most progressive president ever. I think that Frankly,
a lot of people I didn't believe him on the
right and the left and said, oh, Biden has been
in d C for half a century. You know, we
know Joe, but he he understands that he wants a legacy.
This is to him about cementing himself in the history
books as more progressive than FDR ever was. And you
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have to get that because that's what we need to stop. Well,
I love the way that you break it down to
I feel like sometimes people can you know, lose others
attentions because they just try to overexplain it. But you
explain it in such a palatable way that I think
your average Joe can't understand it. Take a deep dive
inside look into this administration. Obviously you know the ins
and outs of the White House having worked there before,
and so to see your perspective, I think it is
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very helpful. You know. My last question for you is,
and I know that your show is absolutely crushing it
um you know, with what's happening on the southern border,
with what's happening with this next migrant caravan. They're saying
that is upwards now of sixty five thousand people. I
know that in Mexico they're reporting it as the mother
of all caravans. You have a show that doesn't, you know,
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hinder your voice and being able to share that information.
But as someone who's worked in policy at the White
House level, I mean, are you afraid for the American people?
Because you know these people are coming in unvetted, unchecked.
There's health crisis obviously, currently in effect at the southern border.
But what is your opinion on that. I think you
just laid it out. Well, yeah, I'm very concerned. I
think everybody should. We're letting people in this country that
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we don't know who they are. UM, there's some health concerns,
there's security concerns, UM. And I think we've us focus
on the fact that we are a nation of laws
and the idea that people can just flow in and
then we know in what fifteen twenty years, UM, every
we we sort of present amnesty as an option and
say okay, well you've been here now for so long,
we gotta we gotta just make you a citizen. That
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that doesn't send the right message. And I think that's
that's where you know, part of the point at the
end of the book, I in chapter twenty, I have
got a conservative action plan, right, tell people here's how
you can get involved. And I think that that's important
because everyone needs to understand that that you can sit
back and just say, Okay, that's not my problem. Well one,
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whether it's Florida where you are, Virginia where I am, um, there,
there's every state is feeling the consequences of people coming
over the southern border. Um, it's dealing with jobs, you
have crime fentinel and drugs. Um, it's just and I
don't think. I think you've got a complicit media that
I write about in two chapters that is not allowing
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the American people. If you wake up every day and
watch the Today Show, Good Morning America and read you know,
the Miami Herald, Washington Post, the l A Times, and
York Times, they are literally taking half of the of
the issues that exist right now and just pushing them aside.
You don't even know they exist because they do everything
to cover up for this administration. And and so you
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have to search more to find out what's happening and
the impact that these policies are having on people's lives.
So I do think that we're gonna we're gonna see
this caravan, as you point out, another one seventy hundred
thousand people come to your southern border and act like
no one knew what was happening or that we couldn't
stop it. This administration changed what Trump was doing that
was working because they wanted to just you know, anything
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that Trump was doing was bad. I think that shows
you they're not serious about dealing with immigration, and I
can only surmise that they're doing it for political reasons.
It's interesting you see that. You know, under the Biden
Obama administration, Obama was known as the deporter in chief,
and then all of a sudden, it's this one a
d out. They started attack Republicans are literally upholding Obama
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air policies on immigration, saying that Republicans were the ones
that built the kids in cages and all this stuff.
And then you realize what's truly happened to You realize
it is absolutely but let's face it, everything that they
did was just to say it's the opposite of Trump.
It wasn't because it worked or it made sense. It
was if Trump did it, we needed to do the opposite.
And it's it's that's that's just such a sad thing
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to say. It's like, we're not going to do it's
in the best interests of the country. We're gonna do.
We need to show everyone that we're not doing what
Trump did. That's so funny that you bring that up.
It seems to be the message even now in campaigns.
It's that if you have someone that's endorsed by President Trump,
the other opponent will say, well, we have to fundraise
because we have to keep this person out because of Trump.
They don't actually have policies to help the country, to
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help the community. It just seems to be this hate message.
I live in in northern Virginia, and in the entire
McAuliffe campaign against Republican Glenn Young, can is you know
Donald Trump, Donald Trump, Donald Trump, And it's like NaN's
running to be governor UM and yes, Donald Trump endorsed somebody.
You know. It's I just it's funny because Young's executive
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businessman that brings a ton of experience, and yet that's
all the Democrats have. Then I want to talk about it.
And that's the interesting thing is, you know, as we
head towards the holidays, one of the things that I
hope people read the book and understand is that, and
you put this very sustinctly a moment ago we win
with the facts. And so I try to lay out
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to everybody all of the issues that are coming up
within the Body administration, all the policies, and say, okay,
here is the logical deconstruction of that. If they're gonna
tell you this is about voting rights, they're gonna tell
you this is about whatever. Here's the reality of what
it is, and here's how you can easily deconstruct it.
That's what people need to do, is because when you
go at somebody and say, why would you know, why
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would they enact this policy if not for the following reasons,
the facts and the policies are on our side. And
that's the thing that we need to as we get
ready for Thanksgiving with our crazy on or uncle is
be able to fight back and say no, no, here's
actually the reality. I always tell on the the my
favorite example, and I don't know why, but the District
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of Columbia in ninety was created by taking a part
of Virginia and a part of Maryland to create a
ten square mile district that the Framers had in the constitution.
In eighteen thirty five, they gave back a big chunk
of it to Virginia, which is actually where I live now,
and they said, we weren't using it here, you go
have it back to Virginia. Well, now you have just
this little part of Maryland that was left that was
given by Maryland, and the Democrats want to make it
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a state. Well, the logical argument is, well, since we
already gave the part the Virginia back, why don't you
give the Maryland piece back to Maryland? Problems solved well,
which I think I don't know how you can argue
against that, because then they can vote. They're part of Maryland,
that's where they came from. Everything's good to go. The
Democrats want to make it a state, why gosh, what
would oh the district of Columbia would vote nine to
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five Democrat. They get two additional senators in one House member.
If you have two additional senators, you pretty much guarantee
yourself that Republicans would never have a a fellowbuster proof majority.
And so everything has to be looked through the motive
of what the Democrats on the left is trying to achieve.
And in so many cases you sit back and say,
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because if it's really about voting rights, then give it
back to Maryland, they can vote. That's easy done. But
they don't want that, and you have to ask, well
then why, And it's because of political power. Well you
heard it here first. I hope everyone checks out your book.
Thank you so much for joining us today. It is
called Radical Nation by Sean Spice, or check it out
definitely a good Christmas gift and we are coming up
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on holiday season here. Thank you so much for joining
us today, and make sure also to your show airs
tell them one to watch you on newsra every night
news Max at six pm. And the beautiful thing about
news Max is that if you've got it on cable,
that's awesome. If you're a cable cutter, uh, you can
go to YouTube watch it, you can download the news
Max app, you can watch it wherever you are. You
don't need a cable subscription, watch it wherever you are. Well,
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thank you so much for joining us, Sean. We look
forward to having you back. Appreciate it. I love having
on Seawan. We'll be back with final thoughts after this
quick commercial break. Interestingly enough, I was able to actually
connect with Sean this past election cycle. Once I basically
had ended campaign season, we really started cycling on news
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Max a ton and Sean was there. He was actually
one of the first larger hosts and anchors on Newsmax
that I was able to really go on with. And frankly,
it's an honor and privilege to talk with someone he's
so established, um so successful in everything that he's doing
and honestly, he knows exactly what's going on with politics,
and I think that part of the reason why he
is so successful and he's doing so great at what
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he does is because he really breaks it down in
a way that people can understand. And what I'm continuously
realizing being in this political space is that there's so
many people that just do not have the ability to
speak normally and converse normally, especially on these topics, whether
it's foreign policy, whether it's what's happening nationally, whether it's
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border security, whether it's national security. But yet he's able
to really break it down in a way that we
can all understand. And so I want to end with this.
What you're seeing having happen now at the border is
something that I think is going to shape the political
climate in this country for years to come. We cannot
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give these people blanket amnesty. That doesn't work. It's never
been a good solution for anything to do with illegal immigration.
If you really want to help these people, if you
really want to give them access to a fair shot,
you have to clean up our own immigration system so
that we can vet these people and ensure that they
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are actually having access to the American dream and not
just essentially working on some of these labor operations, which
is basically indentured servitude, something that Jorge ven Tura talked
about on the episode where we're addressing some of these
cartel grow operations in California. I mean, the fact is
is that this has happened right underneath our noses, and
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if we don't educate our peers on this, I think
that we're only part of the problem. I can also
tell you that that is the reason why, if you
haven't already seen it, that I have announced the campaign
ad that I did. It was one of the things
that I spoke with my team about and especially in
wanting to ensure that if there was one thing I
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wanted my campaign to be known for, it's to be
known as someone who tells the truth and tells it
like it is, especially in regards to a lot of
the tiptoeing that we see in politics. And you know,
an open border is not humanitarian, There's nothing humanitarian about it.
Illegal is not a race. It's not just something that
applies to Mexicans. It is something that encompasses many, many
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people from all around the world. As you saw in
those headlines earlier. There's people coming from Russia and China,
and Africa and Haiti and you name it. They're coming
from it because they realized with this administration that they
have a better chance of doing it legally than the
correct way, which is completely wrong. But I want to
ensure that people really truly know what's happening. And if
there's one thing I want to be known for, it's
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for really telling it like it is. So thank you
so much for tuning in to today's episode of Luna Talks.
I appreciate all of your support and make sure you
come back next week. Hopefully we'll have some stats and
a solution for what's happening at the Southern border. Before
we go on to thank Sean Spicer again for such
a great interview, and I want to thank you guys
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Up next, Luna Talks with Anna Paulina. Luna part of
the gang which the Biden administration is radically changing America
for the worst. From crushing our freedom to weakening our
national security. Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and the progressive left
are doing the lasting damage. Today we examine just how
(00:20):
bad things are in Joe Biden's America and the future
of politics in this country. This is Luna Talks with
On a Paulina. Welcome back everyone to today's episode of
Luna Talks with Me, your host on a Paulina Luna.
As you know, this past week, we've been really covering
down on the mother of all caravans, something that the
(00:42):
mainstream media is not wanting to really talk about, that
is heading to our southern border. We are now getting
reports stating that this caravan is going to be upwards
of sixty thousand people. I can tell you that they
are well organized and apparently well funded. They are using
QR codes actually to share information and to coordinate. And
(01:03):
then earlier this week on Monday, there was viral footage
that actually broke out posted by Griff Jenkins on Twitter
where he talks about the migrant caravan that entered Mexico
that was basically busting through the national guard blockade that
they had in Mexico in order to make their way
up to North America. Now, a few things about this. Yes,
(01:27):
this is a huge issue with bogging down the immigration system,
but there's a massive, massive national security aspect of this
that no one's really talking about. The only article that
I've really been able to find so far is an
article ironically posted by Fox News of all things, that
just was posted on Tuesday, talking about amid migrant surge,
(01:52):
nationals from Russia, India, China encountered at the US southern border.
Now why would this be all arming? Well, we know
that China is not our friend, we know that Russia
is not our friend. And these people literally getting access
into our country without being tracked. I mean, there is
a number of issues, not to mention, there's a massive
(02:13):
health crisis. Ironically enough, you know here in the United States,
Biden literally just announced that he wants to make anyone
in coming to the US show proof of their COVID
vaccination status and or provide a negative test. Yet they
don't seem to be worried about those coming in at
the southern border. I wonder, I just wonder why that
(02:34):
might be. So I wanted to bring someone in, someone
that I've actually really respected for some time now that
you may all know from his time at the White House,
a gentleman by the name of Sean Spicer. You may
recognize him from being President Donald Trump's Press secretary, and
he is now an amazing host on a show that
(02:54):
airs weekly Monday through Friday on news Max, Spicer and Co.
So he's agree to join us today to discuss this
exact issue, as well as an upcoming book that he
has focusing on the Kamala and Biden administration, something that
we are starting to see literally unravel. I don't say
that to be me and I say that to be honest.
They are literally imploding, you see. S And now that's
(03:16):
actually for the first time decided to target Joe Biden
on their skits, who brings out three versions of them,
which is something that we should all kind of be tracking.
I do think, you know, this is just kind of
my spidy senses tingling that Kamala's team may or may
not have had something to do with that. It definitely
seems like she's making plans to be the Democrat front
runner in although I don't think that she'll win because
(03:40):
from what we're hearing President Trump hopefully by then we'll
be redeclared in his candidacy for president. And I'll point
out one more thing, everything that we're seeing at the
southern border currently that is absolutely going to be a
campaign issue in I don't think it is by mistake
that these caravans are getting to the US Mexico border
(04:02):
right on the eve around the same time period that
President Biden has to sign and extend the Remain in
Mexico policy that was a carryover from the Trump administration.
It's very interesting that the migrants, these illegals that are
basically marching up here are saying, tell Biden, we are
coming as they march their way up to the US
(04:22):
border through Mexico. You have massive, massive organizers for this,
and frankly, like I had mentioned earlier, the group that's
organizing this is doing it all through QR code that's
basically allowing anyone to do this march to register starting
October fift so they've been coordinating this for many, many,
many months. It started with mainly migrants from Central America,
(04:45):
South America and Haitians. But it's an over two thousand,
five hundred mile journey to Texas from some of these locations,
and the fact is is that they would not be
coming here if this administration didn't actively campaign on these
illegal immigration pro open border stances that they had been
(05:06):
campaigning on throughout their entire election cycle. Not to mention,
they seem to think that illegal immigration is the quote
unquote humanitarian thing, when in actuality, it is the least
humanitarian thing that you can do. And so many people
are getting hurt on a regular basis, yet they don't
want to talk about it. They want to only want
to talk about it when it's brown people versus white people,
(05:28):
or white people versus black people. But when they actually
want to fix the issues, they don't even want to
discuss it or touch it because it absolutely shatters their narrative.
So the moral of this story is that, yes, this
administration is going to have a lot of explaining to do.
I definitely know that in two it's saying that we
are estimated to pick up about fifty five seats. I
think that this is largely going to be a part
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of it. In addition to inflation, that we're seeing. They're
saying this year for Thanksgiving terribly enough that it's going
to be one of the most expensive years for Thanksgiving
ever because of the inflation that we're seeing. And then
to top it off with the hypocrisy, headlines say that
Biden has his beach home that's being fenced, paid for
by your tax dollars after halting border wall construction. So
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he gets a fence at his private beach home, but
we here in the United States don't when there's been
literally one point seven million migrants arrested at the southern
border in the last twelve months according to CBP data.
I mean, how hypocritical is that? And I just want
to throw it in there that his taxpayer funded security
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fence at his private home in Delaware, the fence is
going to be four hundred and fifty six thousand, five
hundred and forty eight dollars, Yet he doesn't want to
put that towards what's happening at the southern border. So
that's further ADO. I would like to bring on Shaun Spicer.
We will be joined with him right after this quick
commercial break. Sit tight, and we'll be right back. I'm
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here today with the amazing. Sean Spicer formally known and
work with the White House also too, has an amazing
show on news. Mac Sewan, thank you so much for
joining us today here on Luna Talks. It's great to
be on your show. I love having you on mind
every ninety six o'clock. So it's it's nice to have
the tables turned a little absolutely. I mean, we know
that you did an incredible job when you were with
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the Trump administration, but to kind of segue out of
that now with your own show, what do you see
as a feature of politics, especially being that America versus
going nowhere? Well, I mean, I think it depends on
on what side of the aisle you're on. The point,
uh that I make in my new book is that
people need to get out there and get engaged. And
I'm actually excited when I see the school board meetings
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and these parents getting engaged, people wanting to run for
office that hadn't been involved in the process. I think
President Trump has a lot to do with that that people.
I know you're you have engaged in the process and
and continue to stay engaged in a lot of ways.
But that's what's important, is the left winds when we
are complacent, silent or canceled. And so the more folks
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that get the message that whether it's hey, I want
to go post stuff on Facebook, I want to run
for office myself, I want to go speak a school
board meeting, we need to get our voices hurt and
um and I think frankly, we we need to expose
the hypocrisy, the double standards, the lies to the other side,
but then present our case very sucinctly, because I don't
think there's an issue that whether it's immigration or tax
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cuts or what have you, that when you lay out
the conservative cause in case, most people except the extreme leftist,
we'll say, you know what, that makes more sense. And
so I think we have there's so much at stake,
we've got to we've got to engage more and make
the case for our side. Absolutely. So you'd mentioned your
new book. What is it called? When can we buy it?
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It's um, it's called Radical Nation. It is out right now. Uh. Literally,
you can either go to Amazon, you can go to
newsmax dot com twenty slash twenty three and there's a
link that will take you straight to Amazon. But it's
in Costcos and Barnes and Nobles and airports. Um. It's
the first comprehensive look at the bid Harrison administration, and
it looks at the people. I mean, for example, I
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talked about Dennis McDonald, why he's not qualified to lead
the v A. Why Pepe Buddha, who when he was
mayor of South ben Indiana oversaw sixty excuse me, sixty
six busses and now he's in charge of our railways, seaways, highways.
I mean, the wonder why we have a crisis of
the ports because you have a guy who's thirty eight
years old that was hired at Secretary Transportation to check
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a box and he was also on maternity leave right
when all of these basically cargo ships were, you know,
building up on it is terrible. Well, and he didn't
tell anybody that was The other thing is said, it's
one thing to to do it, it's another thing in
the middle of a crisis to not let anyone know
that you're doing it and then take off. And so
but I think regardless, he was the wrong person for
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the job. And then we talked about the policies, UM.
And I think the thing that is so crucial about
the book is that it explains the real agenda that's happening,
because everything from making DC estate to spend trillions of
dollars to letting people flow over the southern border is
all in pursuit of political power. The Democrats want to
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ensure that they can continue to pass progressive policies. So
if they make DC a state, they get two additional senators.
If they allow people to flow over the southern border,
they have additional voters that you know, in five twenty years,
they know what they're doing. And I think conservatives need
to understand the agenda that's at hand and what they're
trying to achieve. I talked about this in the book.
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Joe Biden says in here, well he said it and
I put it in here that he was going to
be the most progressive president ever. I think that Frankly,
a lot of people I didn't believe him on the
right and the left and said, oh, Biden has been
in d C for half a century. You know, we
know Joe, but he he understands that he wants a legacy.
This is to him about cementing himself in the history
books as more progressive than FDR ever was. And you
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have to get that because that's what we need to stop. Well,
I love the way that you break it down to
I feel like sometimes people can you know, lose others
attentions because they just try to overexplain it. But you
explain it in such a palatable way that I think
your average Joe can't understand it. Take a deep dive
inside look into this administration. Obviously you know the ins
and outs of the White House having worked there before,
and so to see your perspective, I think it is
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very helpful. You know. My last question for you is,
and I know that your show is absolutely crushing it
um you know, with what's happening on the southern border,
with what's happening with this next migrant caravan. They're saying
that is upwards now of sixty five thousand people. I
know that in Mexico they're reporting it as the mother
of all caravans. You have a show that doesn't, you know,
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hinder your voice and being able to share that information.
But as someone who's worked in policy at the White
House level, I mean, are you afraid for the American people?
Because you know these people are coming in unvetted, unchecked.
There's health crisis obviously, currently in effect at the southern border.
But what is your opinion on that. I think you
just laid it out. Well, yeah, I'm very concerned. I
think everybody should. We're letting people in this country that
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we don't know who they are. UM, there's some health concerns,
there's security concerns, UM. And I think we've us focus
on the fact that we are a nation of laws
and the idea that people can just flow in and
then we know in what fifteen twenty years, UM, every
we we sort of present amnesty as an option and
say okay, well you've been here now for so long,
we gotta we gotta just make you a citizen. That
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that doesn't send the right message. And I think that's
that's where you know, part of the point at the
end of the book, I in chapter twenty, I have
got a conservative action plan, right, tell people here's how
you can get involved. And I think that that's important
because everyone needs to understand that that you can sit
back and just say, Okay, that's not my problem. Well one,
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whether it's Florida where you are, Virginia where I am, um, there,
there's every state is feeling the consequences of people coming
over the southern border. Um, it's dealing with jobs, you
have crime fentinel and drugs. Um, it's just and I
don't think. I think you've got a complicit media that
I write about in two chapters that is not allowing
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the American people. If you wake up every day and
watch the Today Show, Good Morning America and read you know,
the Miami Herald, Washington Post, the l A Times, and
York Times, they are literally taking half of the of
the issues that exist right now and just pushing them aside.
You don't even know they exist because they do everything
to cover up for this administration. And and so you
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have to search more to find out what's happening and
the impact that these policies are having on people's lives.
So I do think that we're gonna we're gonna see
this caravan, as you point out, another one seventy hundred
thousand people come to your southern border and act like
no one knew what was happening or that we couldn't
stop it. This administration changed what Trump was doing that
was working because they wanted to just you know, anything
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that Trump was doing was bad. I think that shows
you they're not serious about dealing with immigration, and I
can only surmise that they're doing it for political reasons.
It's interesting you see that. You know, under the Biden
Obama administration, Obama was known as the deporter in chief,
and then all of a sudden, it's this one a
d out. They started attack Republicans are literally upholding Obama
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air policies on immigration, saying that Republicans were the ones
that built the kids in cages and all this stuff.
And then you realize what's truly happened to You realize
it is absolutely but let's face it, everything that they
did was just to say it's the opposite of Trump.
It wasn't because it worked or it made sense. It
was if Trump did it, we needed to do the opposite.
And it's it's that's that's just such a sad thing
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to say. It's like, we're not going to do it's
in the best interests of the country. We're gonna do.
We need to show everyone that we're not doing what
Trump did. That's so funny that you bring that up.
It seems to be the message even now in campaigns.
It's that if you have someone that's endorsed by President Trump,
the other opponent will say, well, we have to fundraise
because we have to keep this person out because of Trump.
They don't actually have policies to help the country, to
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help the community. It just seems to be this hate message.
I live in in northern Virginia, and in the entire
McAuliffe campaign against Republican Glenn Young, can is you know
Donald Trump, Donald Trump, Donald Trump, And it's like NaN's
running to be governor UM and yes, Donald Trump endorsed somebody.
You know. It's I just it's funny because Young's executive
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businessman that brings a ton of experience, and yet that's
all the Democrats have. Then I want to talk about it.
And that's the interesting thing is, you know, as we
head towards the holidays, one of the things that I
hope people read the book and understand is that, and
you put this very sustinctly a moment ago we win
with the facts. And so I try to lay out
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to everybody all of the issues that are coming up
within the Body administration, all the policies, and say, okay,
here is the logical deconstruction of that. If they're gonna
tell you this is about voting rights, they're gonna tell
you this is about whatever. Here's the reality of what
it is, and here's how you can easily deconstruct it.
That's what people need to do, is because when you
go at somebody and say, why would you know, why
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would they enact this policy if not for the following reasons,
the facts and the policies are on our side. And
that's the thing that we need to as we get
ready for Thanksgiving with our crazy on or uncle is
be able to fight back and say no, no, here's
actually the reality. I always tell on the the my
favorite example, and I don't know why, but the District
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of Columbia in ninety was created by taking a part
of Virginia and a part of Maryland to create a
ten square mile district that the Framers had in the constitution.
In eighteen thirty five, they gave back a big chunk
of it to Virginia, which is actually where I live now,
and they said, we weren't using it here, you go
have it back to Virginia. Well, now you have just
this little part of Maryland that was left that was
given by Maryland, and the Democrats want to make it
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a state. Well, the logical argument is, well, since we
already gave the part the Virginia back, why don't you
give the Maryland piece back to Maryland? Problems solved well,
which I think I don't know how you can argue
against that, because then they can vote. They're part of Maryland,
that's where they came from. Everything's good to go. The
Democrats want to make it a state, why gosh, what
would oh the district of Columbia would vote nine to
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five Democrat. They get two additional senators in one House member.
If you have two additional senators, you pretty much guarantee
yourself that Republicans would never have a a fellowbuster proof majority.
And so everything has to be looked through the motive
of what the Democrats on the left is trying to achieve.
And in so many cases you sit back and say,
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because if it's really about voting rights, then give it
back to Maryland, they can vote. That's easy done. But
they don't want that, and you have to ask, well
then why, And it's because of political power. Well you
heard it here first. I hope everyone checks out your book.
Thank you so much for joining us today. It is
called Radical Nation by Sean Spice, or check it out
definitely a good Christmas gift and we are coming up
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on holiday season here. Thank you so much for joining
us today, and make sure also to your show airs
tell them one to watch you on newsra every night
news Max at six pm. And the beautiful thing about
news Max is that if you've got it on cable,
that's awesome. If you're a cable cutter, uh, you can
go to YouTube watch it, you can download the news
Max app, you can watch it wherever you are. You
don't need a cable subscription, watch it wherever you are. Well,
(17:55):
thank you so much for joining us, Sean. We look
forward to having you back. Appreciate it. I love having
on Seawan. We'll be back with final thoughts after this
quick commercial break. Interestingly enough, I was able to actually
connect with Sean this past election cycle. Once I basically
had ended campaign season, we really started cycling on news
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Max a ton and Sean was there. He was actually
one of the first larger hosts and anchors on Newsmax
that I was able to really go on with. And frankly,
it's an honor and privilege to talk with someone he's
so established, um so successful in everything that he's doing
and honestly, he knows exactly what's going on with politics,
and I think that part of the reason why he
is so successful and he's doing so great at what
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he does is because he really breaks it down in
a way that people can understand. And what I'm continuously
realizing being in this political space is that there's so
many people that just do not have the ability to
speak normally and converse normally, especially on these topics, whether
it's foreign policy, whether it's what's happening nationally, whether it's
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border security, whether it's national security. But yet he's able
to really break it down in a way that we
can all understand. And so I want to end with this.
What you're seeing having happen now at the border is
something that I think is going to shape the political
climate in this country for years to come. We cannot
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give these people blanket amnesty. That doesn't work. It's never
been a good solution for anything to do with illegal immigration.
If you really want to help these people, if you
really want to give them access to a fair shot,
you have to clean up our own immigration system so
that we can vet these people and ensure that they
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are actually having access to the American dream and not
just essentially working on some of these labor operations, which
is basically indentured servitude, something that Jorge ven Tura talked
about on the episode where we're addressing some of these
cartel grow operations in California. I mean, the fact is
is that this has happened right underneath our noses, and
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if we don't educate our peers on this, I think
that we're only part of the problem. I can also
tell you that that is the reason why, if you
haven't already seen it, that I have announced the campaign
ad that I did. It was one of the things
that I spoke with my team about and especially in
wanting to ensure that if there was one thing I
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wanted my campaign to be known for, it's to be
known as someone who tells the truth and tells it
like it is, especially in regards to a lot of
the tiptoeing that we see in politics. And you know,
an open border is not humanitarian, There's nothing humanitarian about it.
Illegal is not a race. It's not just something that
applies to Mexicans. It is something that encompasses many, many
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people from all around the world. As you saw in
those headlines earlier. There's people coming from Russia and China,
and Africa and Haiti and you name it. They're coming
from it because they realized with this administration that they
have a better chance of doing it legally than the
correct way, which is completely wrong. But I want to
ensure that people really truly know what's happening. And if
there's one thing I want to be known for, it's
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for really telling it like it is. So thank you
so much for tuning in to today's episode of Luna Talks.
I appreciate all of your support and make sure you
come back next week. Hopefully we'll have some stats and
a solution for what's happening at the Southern border. Before
we go on to thank Sean Spicer again for such
a great interview, and I want to thank you guys
so much for listening. If you enjoy today's show, please
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