November 14, 2021 • 19 mins
Everyone knows Big Tech is abusing its outsized power, suppressing conservative voices and crushing our right to free speech. But who’s actually doing something about it? For this podcast, Anna has on the man leading the legal fight against Silicon Valley — one of the country’s top personalities and a social media giant in his own right. His name is Rogan O’Handley, but you probably know him as DC Draino. A former entertainment lawyer, Rogan is one of the country’s biggest social media influencers. But Big Tech, the Biden campaign, and the state of California colluded to violate his First Amendment rights and kick him off Twitter for giving his legal opinion on election protocols. Rogan discusses his mission to take Big Tech to the Supreme Court as well as his predictions for the 2022 midterm elections — and, of course, how a successful lawyer left a lucrative career to start making memes.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Everyone knows big tech is abusing its outsize power, suppressing
conservative voices and crushing a right to free speech, But
who's actually doing something about it? Today we hear from
the man leading the legal fight against Silicon Valley, one
of our country's top personalities and social media giant in
his own rights. This is Luna Talks with Anna Paulina.
(00:30):
I am here today with d C. Drain no a
k A. Rogan oh Hanley, someone that I've known for
some time and arguably one of the biggest conservative personalities
currently in the United States. Rogan, thank you so much
for joining us to stay here on Luna Talks. Thank
you for having me on, Anna, it is an honor.
So real quick your story. I think when a lot
(00:51):
of people see your social media account, they wonder how
did someone get you know, like you get so big,
But obviously there's you know, an underlying I think asis
of you being obviously very very pro America, but also
to a year an attorney. Correct, that's right. So how
did an attorney from Hollywood get into meeting? Well, I
(01:12):
will say years of a lot of work every day,
you know, I've been doing this for about uh five years,
and you know, people ask me like, oh, when did
you go viral? When did you blow up? And it's
just like it's a thousand followers every few days, and
then it ends up being a thousand followers every day
(01:34):
after a few years. So it is just kind of
a grind and then eventually you look back and you know,
you see that. But I was an attorney in Hollywood,
and I was, you know, I've always been conservative, but
was very upset with how President Trump was being treated
by the media, how people weren't allowed to support him
(01:54):
openly on social media, and working in Hollywood, it's especially
can stricted in terms of what you can say or
do if you're not a communist, and so I just
got really frustrated and I created DC drain No as
an outlet on Instagram because I thought memes were one
of the best ways to communicate. I still think that's true.
(02:17):
Uh you know, you look at the cave men they
wrote drew pictures on the walls, and you still use
that stuff today. People like visual mediums to can that's
why movies are popular, etcetera. So I started to do
it and after like six months, I you know, had followers.
I was like, whoa there's actually something here, and I
(02:37):
felt like I was living a double life. So I
ultimately decided to just take the plunge and uh pursue
this full time and just try and advocate for people's
constitutional rights nationwide with my legal knowledge and you know,
get out of the corporate grind and do everything I
could help save America from socialism, because what we're seeing
(02:59):
to day is what's actually worse. It's communism. Uh. They're
they're really really trying to turn America into a communist country,
and you know, people like us have to step up
and stop it so really quickly before we get into
the weeds of really what's happening, I think on social
media with this communist movement. I want to ask you,
what was your mom's initial reaction. Did you freak out?
Because I mean, you went to a great law school, right,
(03:21):
like top law school obviously like prodigy child, and then
you're like, I'm just gonna go make memes. Well, she
thought I was a little crazy, uh, which is why
I didn't tell a lot of people what I was doing.
You know, I went to University of Chicago Law School,
and uh, you know a lot of the people I
graduated with our now partners at very prestigious law firms
(03:45):
charging you know, six seven, maybe a thousand dollars an hour,
and I decided to break away from that and go
post memes about stuff I believe in very strongly, and so, uh,
my mom kind of you know, we don't agree political
we don't let politics get in between us, which is
something I think all people should do. Not let the
(04:05):
media divide you from your own family. Um happens far
too much. But uh, you know, she said you can
always go back to being a lawyer, and the thought
about it, and that's partially true, but I guarantee there's
a lot of places that wouldn't want to hire me
now that you know I've expressed myself freely on social media. Well,
(04:26):
I think you don't have to worry about going back
to being an attorney anytime soon, because if I have
my estimate as to what you'll be doing, I think
you're probably the next Hannity. So to kind of move
from there, you have a massive case going on. Actually
saw you just posted something about it, so you basically
we're targeted by divided administration, by the state of California,
and they colluded with Twitter essentially to get you banned
(04:49):
off Twitter. Correct. As crazy as that sounds, that is
exactly correct. So I was banned off Twitter for a
lect shin integrity issues back in February, and Judicial Watch
two months later released some emails that they had requested
(05:10):
under a public records request from the state of California
that showed the Secretary of State's office, which handles elections
in California, had specifically targeted me saying d C. Drain
No is spreading misinformation about California elections. They sent that
to Twitter. Twitter then flagged my post and I was
(05:31):
ultimately banned, uh, maybe a month and a half later,
because of my views on election. Now think about this.
I am a licensed attorney in the state of California.
I am criticizing constitutional procedures, how our elections work. I said,
we should have election audits, which are now happening nationwide
and should be happening every election, every year, every time.
(05:55):
And the State of California said, well, this is just
misinformation that he wants an election on it, and they
sent it to Twitter and then Twitter took me down.
Now here's the better part, or the worst part, is
that the Biden campaign's main campaign consultant, s K. D. Nickerbocker,
was already in a contractual relationship with the state of
(06:17):
California to provide the names and posts of people that
were spreading misinformation. So tax dollars were spent to pay
Biden's campaign firm to target political enemies to then use
the government to have them centered on social media. And
a lot of people say, well, Twitter is a private company,
they can do what they want. No, No, the government
(06:39):
was involved, and anyone working with the government on that
is called a joint state actor. And that is a
violation of the First Amendment. Congress and the States shall
make no law of bridging freedom of speech, and they
shall not silence your freedom of speech except an extremely
rare circumstances like death threats, stuff like that. So this
(07:01):
was just criticism of elections. And we are our first
federal hearing December sixteenth in federal court, and we're gonna
determine whether or not we go to trial or the
thing gets dismissed. Fingers crossed. I think we're gonna be
able to go to trial. No, that's so exciting. If
this is true then ultimately, which it is true, But
if this is the case. Ultimately, you would be basically
(07:22):
one of those first cases I think to establish precedents
for actual legislation. And then also too that could actually
take down Twitter. So my fingers are crossed. Yeah, the
Supreme Court has said in non controlling opinions. Justice Thomas,
in a concurring opinion said, we do want to look
(07:43):
at Section two thirty and it's constitutionality because I don't
think there's anyone in America that doesn't believe that big
tech is the most powerful force on planet Earth. And
I don't say that hyperbolically. They silenced the sitting president
of the United States, got away with it and had
no repercussions. That's insane. That should not be able to happen.
(08:07):
The sitting president could not speak to the American people
on these platforms. That's wrong. Uh. And they've just gotten
you know, they've gotten to too comfortable with this censorship stuff.
So I fortunately we have smoking gun emails. The problem
is this is systemic, right, This is systemic oppression of
(08:28):
conservative viewpoints. Whether or not this gets to the Supreme Court,
I do think that the Federal Court, if we win,
will be able to change things for everyone. So other
people can sue. It will create more opportunities. So no
matter what, I'm not settling. I don't care how much
money they offer me if they do. But we're we're
taking this all the way. We're gonna make sure that
(08:51):
people have more freedom of speech. I love to hear
it speaking of why Twitter won't censor one candidate but
will censor others. I want to ask you about a
clip I found of Joe Biden referring to a famous
baseball player from what I gather in a very derogatory way.
But I have to take a quick break, so we'll
be right back. Stay tuned, all right, Rogan. So I'm
(09:21):
gonna play this clip real quick that I found. It's
of Joe Biden. Well, I won't just here. Just listen
to the clip. Thank you for your service to our country.
And I just want to tell you, I know you're
a little younger than I am, but you know I've
adopted the attitude of the great Negro at the time
(09:46):
picture in the Negro leagues went on to become a
great picture in the pros into the Major League Baseball
after Jackie Robinson. His name is Satchel Page and Satchel
Page on his forty seventh birthday, pitched a win against Chicago,
(10:08):
and all the press went in and said, Sutch, it's
amazing forty seven years old loans ever ever pitched to
win at age forty seven? All right, did you catch
that he called Satchel Page the N word? Um, well,
one variation of the N word. Uh. You know there
there was a baseball league called the negro Leagues. But
(10:31):
I think uh, most would agree that calling a black
person that term today, uh is not acceptable. And I
would just say that if this was said by President Trump,
it would be the only thing we hear about on
(10:51):
the media for the next two weeks, and they would
call him a racist. Seven. But we both know that's
not gonna happen to Joe Biden exactly. And it's not
the first time that he's made these comments. Obviously, leading
up to the election cycle, he was making other comments
saying that if you don't vote for me, you're not black.
He's been known. In fact, I think Kamala Harris called
(11:13):
him racist. Interesting how that conversation doesn't continue. Do you
think that with everything you're doing with social media and
now what's happening with Twitter? I mean if our Congress
doesn't get ahold of big tech and the overreach that
they currently have, do you think that our countries in trouble? Oh?
I think it is. One of the biggest issues that
(11:34):
did not get addressed under President Trump was censorship of conservatives.
I tend to think that if we had protected free
speech on social media more, uh, he'd be sitting in
the Oval office despite all the election irregularities. I think
it would have been overwhelming. Um, but it's it's probably
(11:57):
the most important issue because as without free speech. You
know what did George Washington say, you know, dumb and blind,
We're you know, but sheep led to the slaughter. And
if you are not allowed to criticize your government, so
you know right now, so many times on social media
if you say something against Joe Biden that isn't exactly
(12:19):
perfectly accurate. And even then, if you just criticize gas prices,
they'll say, well, fact check, these are just seasonal adjustments.
This is not Joe Biden's fault, or fact check on inflation.
This is just transitory, not Joe Biden's. They are literally
covering for the government, for a corrupt government. And that's
(12:39):
how far out of whack this has gotten, and the
Supreme Court in their concurring opinion talked specifically about Section
two thirty and how these social media platforms apply labels
to post right so part of their liability protections that
they're treated as platforms. They just allow things to be said.
(13:00):
They can't be how liable if song says something legal.
But when they start intervening so aggressively and apply these labels,
fact checks, missing context, or they deleted or whatever, especially
when it's just criticizing the government. What's the difference between
that In the New York Times, they're a publisher. They're
putting information out that perfectly conforms with their opinions and viewpoints.
(13:24):
That is not what Section two thirty is about. So
I am hoping my case is able to help start
that transition into more protections for free speech. But absolutely
the GOP when they retake Congress, needs to pass legislation
that protects our rights to speak freely on social media.
(13:47):
So you do think, and I think you have a
pretty good idea of the flow of what the public
and the American people are feeling right now. I know
that your account. I mean, if that was to be
a focus group. It would be a pretty solid focus group.
You have how many followers two point five million followers.
I have two point one million followers on Instagram, but
at least three million overall when you factor in Facebook, Getter, Parlor, YouTube,
(14:13):
all the apps. Okay, so you're seeing that there will
be a red wave. I know Bannon had projected that
it's about what we're supposed to pick up, maybe fifty
five seats in the House alone, based on what happened
in Virginia. What are your predictions for the election cycle.
I think Anna Paulina Luna is going to win in
a landslide, flip a blue seat, and lead the charge
(14:38):
for a massive red wave across this country. There's a
reason Charlie Chris isn't running against her this cycle. There's
a reason Nancy Pelosi is considering retiring. There's a reason
Rachel Maddow is retiring in April. There's a reason Brian
Williams is retiring soon. There are a lot of people
that saw They already knew this, but they saw what
(15:02):
happened in Virginia, and it is all but certain that
there's going to be a red way because the American
people are fed up with what they are seeing being
done to their country, to their children, to their pocket books.
They're done and they're gonna put common sense back in charge. Okay.
I love to hear, and I think that more people
also to this is kind of the wind that we
(15:22):
all needed, because when you see what's happened, I think
from the time that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris set
foot in the White House, it's just been one after
the other after the other of just negative, negative news
out of that White House. And we know that Joe
Biden is sympathetic to China. You can see everything with
the legislation, with this crazy infrastructure bill. It is literally
not for the American people as anything but that I
(15:45):
have to take one last commercial break and then I
want to ask you how others can get involved. Will
be right back, all right, Rogan. So, as the leader
(16:06):
of the free media, which you truly are on social media,
obviously there may be people listening to this that might
be looking at basically leaving their jobs or they see
what's happening with everything with these mandates to where they
are nervous about taking that first step. What is your
advice to them? I think the first thing they should
ask themselves is are they able to answer their kids
(16:29):
one day proudly when their kids asked, mom, dad, what
did you do when communism started taking over America? Did
you sit back and just work your job and collect
your paychecks and hope it doesn't come for you? Or
did you step up and push back in whatever way
you could, Whether that's being an elected official, whether that's
(16:51):
working on the election system, whether that's being a volunteer
for campaigns, whether that's being a donor for campaigns, whether
that's being someone that posts on social media, someone that
writes op eds, someone that creates videos. Everyone can do something,
and I will tell you the most powerful force in
(17:13):
the world is the awakened American people. We are slow
to move, but once we get moving, we are unstoppable.
The American people have accomplished anything, Any major challenge has
been overcome by the American people in the last two
or fifty years, starting from our founding, continuing through World
War Two and into today. We are now at another crossroads.
(17:38):
A massive, uh existential threat to our way of life
is here within our borders. Are you going to step
up and stand up for freedom and pass on that
freedom to your children so that they can enjoy it.
Are you gonna sit back and let it all just
happen and wish one day when you're old, that you
(18:00):
had actually done more to stop it? I hope you
make the right decision. Well if that doesn't get you
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Everyone knows big tech is abusing its outsize power, suppressing
conservative voices and crushing a right to free speech, But
who's actually doing something about it? Today we hear from
the man leading the legal fight against Silicon Valley, one
of our country's top personalities and social media giant in
his own rights. This is Luna Talks with Anna Paulina.
(00:30):
I am here today with d C. Drain no a
k A. Rogan oh Hanley, someone that I've known for
some time and arguably one of the biggest conservative personalities
currently in the United States. Rogan, thank you so much
for joining us to stay here on Luna Talks. Thank
you for having me on, Anna, it is an honor.
So real quick your story. I think when a lot
(00:51):
of people see your social media account, they wonder how
did someone get you know, like you get so big,
But obviously there's you know, an underlying I think asis
of you being obviously very very pro America, but also
to a year an attorney. Correct, that's right. So how
did an attorney from Hollywood get into meeting? Well, I
(01:12):
will say years of a lot of work every day,
you know, I've been doing this for about uh five years,
and you know, people ask me like, oh, when did
you go viral? When did you blow up? And it's
just like it's a thousand followers every few days, and
then it ends up being a thousand followers every day
(01:34):
after a few years. So it is just kind of
a grind and then eventually you look back and you know,
you see that. But I was an attorney in Hollywood,
and I was, you know, I've always been conservative, but
was very upset with how President Trump was being treated
by the media, how people weren't allowed to support him
(01:54):
openly on social media, and working in Hollywood, it's especially
can stricted in terms of what you can say or
do if you're not a communist, and so I just
got really frustrated and I created DC drain No as
an outlet on Instagram because I thought memes were one
of the best ways to communicate. I still think that's true.
(02:17):
Uh you know, you look at the cave men they
wrote drew pictures on the walls, and you still use
that stuff today. People like visual mediums to can that's
why movies are popular, etcetera. So I started to do
it and after like six months, I you know, had followers.
I was like, whoa there's actually something here, and I
(02:37):
felt like I was living a double life. So I
ultimately decided to just take the plunge and uh pursue
this full time and just try and advocate for people's
constitutional rights nationwide with my legal knowledge and you know,
get out of the corporate grind and do everything I
could help save America from socialism, because what we're seeing
(02:59):
to day is what's actually worse. It's communism. Uh. They're
they're really really trying to turn America into a communist country,
and you know, people like us have to step up
and stop it so really quickly before we get into
the weeds of really what's happening, I think on social
media with this communist movement. I want to ask you,
what was your mom's initial reaction. Did you freak out?
Because I mean, you went to a great law school, right,
(03:21):
like top law school obviously like prodigy child, and then
you're like, I'm just gonna go make memes. Well, she
thought I was a little crazy, uh, which is why
I didn't tell a lot of people what I was doing.
You know, I went to University of Chicago Law School,
and uh, you know a lot of the people I
graduated with our now partners at very prestigious law firms
(03:45):
charging you know, six seven, maybe a thousand dollars an hour,
and I decided to break away from that and go
post memes about stuff I believe in very strongly, and so, uh,
my mom kind of you know, we don't agree political
we don't let politics get in between us, which is
something I think all people should do. Not let the
(04:05):
media divide you from your own family. Um happens far
too much. But uh, you know, she said you can
always go back to being a lawyer, and the thought
about it, and that's partially true, but I guarantee there's
a lot of places that wouldn't want to hire me
now that you know I've expressed myself freely on social media. Well,
(04:26):
I think you don't have to worry about going back
to being an attorney anytime soon, because if I have
my estimate as to what you'll be doing, I think
you're probably the next Hannity. So to kind of move
from there, you have a massive case going on. Actually
saw you just posted something about it, so you basically
we're targeted by divided administration, by the state of California,
and they colluded with Twitter essentially to get you banned
(04:49):
off Twitter. Correct. As crazy as that sounds, that is
exactly correct. So I was banned off Twitter for a
lect shin integrity issues back in February, and Judicial Watch
two months later released some emails that they had requested
(05:10):
under a public records request from the state of California
that showed the Secretary of State's office, which handles elections
in California, had specifically targeted me saying d C. Drain
No is spreading misinformation about California elections. They sent that
to Twitter. Twitter then flagged my post and I was
(05:31):
ultimately banned, uh, maybe a month and a half later,
because of my views on election. Now think about this.
I am a licensed attorney in the state of California.
I am criticizing constitutional procedures, how our elections work. I said,
we should have election audits, which are now happening nationwide
and should be happening every election, every year, every time.
(05:55):
And the State of California said, well, this is just
misinformation that he wants an election on it, and they
sent it to Twitter and then Twitter took me down.
Now here's the better part, or the worst part, is
that the Biden campaign's main campaign consultant, s K. D. Nickerbocker,
was already in a contractual relationship with the state of
(06:17):
California to provide the names and posts of people that
were spreading misinformation. So tax dollars were spent to pay
Biden's campaign firm to target political enemies to then use
the government to have them centered on social media. And
a lot of people say, well, Twitter is a private company,
they can do what they want. No, No, the government
(06:39):
was involved, and anyone working with the government on that
is called a joint state actor. And that is a
violation of the First Amendment. Congress and the States shall
make no law of bridging freedom of speech, and they
shall not silence your freedom of speech except an extremely
rare circumstances like death threats, stuff like that. So this
(07:01):
was just criticism of elections. And we are our first
federal hearing December sixteenth in federal court, and we're gonna
determine whether or not we go to trial or the
thing gets dismissed. Fingers crossed. I think we're gonna be
able to go to trial. No, that's so exciting. If
this is true then ultimately, which it is true, But
if this is the case. Ultimately, you would be basically
(07:22):
one of those first cases I think to establish precedents
for actual legislation. And then also too that could actually
take down Twitter. So my fingers are crossed. Yeah, the
Supreme Court has said in non controlling opinions. Justice Thomas,
in a concurring opinion said, we do want to look
(07:43):
at Section two thirty and it's constitutionality because I don't
think there's anyone in America that doesn't believe that big
tech is the most powerful force on planet Earth. And
I don't say that hyperbolically. They silenced the sitting president
of the United States, got away with it and had
no repercussions. That's insane. That should not be able to happen.
(08:07):
The sitting president could not speak to the American people
on these platforms. That's wrong. Uh. And they've just gotten
you know, they've gotten to too comfortable with this censorship stuff.
So I fortunately we have smoking gun emails. The problem
is this is systemic, right, This is systemic oppression of
(08:28):
conservative viewpoints. Whether or not this gets to the Supreme Court,
I do think that the Federal Court, if we win,
will be able to change things for everyone. So other
people can sue. It will create more opportunities. So no
matter what, I'm not settling. I don't care how much
money they offer me if they do. But we're we're
taking this all the way. We're gonna make sure that
(08:51):
people have more freedom of speech. I love to hear
it speaking of why Twitter won't censor one candidate but
will censor others. I want to ask you about a
clip I found of Joe Biden referring to a famous
baseball player from what I gather in a very derogatory way.
But I have to take a quick break, so we'll
be right back. Stay tuned, all right, Rogan. So I'm
(09:21):
gonna play this clip real quick that I found. It's
of Joe Biden. Well, I won't just here. Just listen
to the clip. Thank you for your service to our country.
And I just want to tell you, I know you're
a little younger than I am, but you know I've
adopted the attitude of the great Negro at the time
(09:46):
picture in the Negro leagues went on to become a
great picture in the pros into the Major League Baseball
after Jackie Robinson. His name is Satchel Page and Satchel
Page on his forty seventh birthday, pitched a win against Chicago,
(10:08):
and all the press went in and said, Sutch, it's
amazing forty seven years old loans ever ever pitched to
win at age forty seven? All right, did you catch
that he called Satchel Page the N word? Um, well,
one variation of the N word. Uh. You know there
there was a baseball league called the negro Leagues. But
(10:31):
I think uh, most would agree that calling a black
person that term today, uh is not acceptable. And I
would just say that if this was said by President Trump,
it would be the only thing we hear about on
(10:51):
the media for the next two weeks, and they would
call him a racist. Seven. But we both know that's
not gonna happen to Joe Biden exactly. And it's not
the first time that he's made these comments. Obviously, leading
up to the election cycle, he was making other comments
saying that if you don't vote for me, you're not black.
He's been known. In fact, I think Kamala Harris called
(11:13):
him racist. Interesting how that conversation doesn't continue. Do you
think that with everything you're doing with social media and
now what's happening with Twitter? I mean if our Congress
doesn't get ahold of big tech and the overreach that
they currently have, do you think that our countries in trouble? Oh?
I think it is. One of the biggest issues that
(11:34):
did not get addressed under President Trump was censorship of conservatives.
I tend to think that if we had protected free
speech on social media more, uh, he'd be sitting in
the Oval office despite all the election irregularities. I think
it would have been overwhelming. Um, but it's it's probably
(11:57):
the most important issue because as without free speech. You
know what did George Washington say, you know, dumb and blind,
We're you know, but sheep led to the slaughter. And
if you are not allowed to criticize your government, so
you know right now, so many times on social media
if you say something against Joe Biden that isn't exactly
(12:19):
perfectly accurate. And even then, if you just criticize gas prices,
they'll say, well, fact check, these are just seasonal adjustments.
This is not Joe Biden's fault, or fact check on inflation.
This is just transitory, not Joe Biden's. They are literally
covering for the government, for a corrupt government. And that's
(12:39):
how far out of whack this has gotten, and the
Supreme Court in their concurring opinion talked specifically about Section
two thirty and how these social media platforms apply labels
to post right so part of their liability protections that
they're treated as platforms. They just allow things to be said.
(13:00):
They can't be how liable if song says something legal.
But when they start intervening so aggressively and apply these labels,
fact checks, missing context, or they deleted or whatever, especially
when it's just criticizing the government. What's the difference between
that In the New York Times, they're a publisher. They're
putting information out that perfectly conforms with their opinions and viewpoints.
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That is not what Section two thirty is about. So
I am hoping my case is able to help start
that transition into more protections for free speech. But absolutely
the GOP when they retake Congress, needs to pass legislation
that protects our rights to speak freely on social media.
(13:47):
So you do think, and I think you have a
pretty good idea of the flow of what the public
and the American people are feeling right now. I know
that your account. I mean, if that was to be
a focus group. It would be a pretty solid focus group.
You have how many followers two point five million followers.
I have two point one million followers on Instagram, but
at least three million overall when you factor in Facebook, Getter, Parlor, YouTube,
(14:13):
all the apps. Okay, so you're seeing that there will
be a red wave. I know Bannon had projected that
it's about what we're supposed to pick up, maybe fifty
five seats in the House alone, based on what happened
in Virginia. What are your predictions for the election cycle.
I think Anna Paulina Luna is going to win in
a landslide, flip a blue seat, and lead the charge
(14:38):
for a massive red wave across this country. There's a
reason Charlie Chris isn't running against her this cycle. There's
a reason Nancy Pelosi is considering retiring. There's a reason
Rachel Maddow is retiring in April. There's a reason Brian
Williams is retiring soon. There are a lot of people
that saw They already knew this, but they saw what
(15:02):
happened in Virginia, and it is all but certain that
there's going to be a red way because the American
people are fed up with what they are seeing being
done to their country, to their children, to their pocket books.
They're done and they're gonna put common sense back in charge. Okay.
I love to hear, and I think that more people
also to this is kind of the wind that we
(15:22):
all needed, because when you see what's happened, I think
from the time that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris set
foot in the White House, it's just been one after
the other after the other of just negative, negative news
out of that White House. And we know that Joe
Biden is sympathetic to China. You can see everything with
the legislation, with this crazy infrastructure bill. It is literally
not for the American people as anything but that I
(15:45):
have to take one last commercial break and then I
want to ask you how others can get involved. Will
be right back, all right, Rogan. So, as the leader
(16:06):
of the free media, which you truly are on social media,
obviously there may be people listening to this that might
be looking at basically leaving their jobs or they see
what's happening with everything with these mandates to where they
are nervous about taking that first step. What is your
advice to them? I think the first thing they should
ask themselves is are they able to answer their kids
(16:29):
one day proudly when their kids asked, mom, dad, what
did you do when communism started taking over America? Did
you sit back and just work your job and collect
your paychecks and hope it doesn't come for you? Or
did you step up and push back in whatever way
you could, Whether that's being an elected official, whether that's
(16:51):
working on the election system, whether that's being a volunteer
for campaigns, whether that's being a donor for campaigns, whether
that's being someone that posts on social media, someone that
writes op eds, someone that creates videos. Everyone can do something,
and I will tell you the most powerful force in
(17:13):
the world is the awakened American people. We are slow
to move, but once we get moving, we are unstoppable.
The American people have accomplished anything, Any major challenge has
been overcome by the American people in the last two
or fifty years, starting from our founding, continuing through World
War Two and into today. We are now at another crossroads.
(17:38):
A massive, uh existential threat to our way of life
is here within our borders. Are you going to step
up and stand up for freedom and pass on that
freedom to your children so that they can enjoy it.
Are you gonna sit back and let it all just
happen and wish one day when you're old, that you
(18:00):
had actually done more to stop it? I hope you
make the right decision. Well if that doesn't get you
fired up, I don't know what will. Everyone Make sure
you follow Rogan o'hanley at DC Drew. You're on Policy Parlor, Facebook, Twitter, Getter, Instagram.
Where else are you YouTube? Everything except Twitter? Oh yeah,
that's right, everything except for Twitter. All right, well, everyone
give him a follow. Thank you so much for joining
(18:22):
us here today on Luna Talks, and we look forward
to have you back. Before we go, I want to
thank DC Dreano again for such a great interview, and
I wanna thank you guys so much for listening. If
you enjoyed todays show, please leave us a review and
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