April 17, 2025 • 22 mins
Dante and Jake talk about what both the Magic and the Celtics offer in this upcoming first round series. They also talk about the other games in the NBA Play-In Tournament.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:49):
And welcome everyone. It is another edition of Magic Insiders
were presented by International Diamond Center Dante Marcitelli, Jake Chapman
and Jake We're one day closer. We are one day
closer to the magic in the Boston self. So are
you ready? You're getting your your Easter stuff ready. We're
gonna get a visit from the Easter bunny here in
a couple of days. Uh, we're gonna get ready. I
don't have that game on Sunday, so I'm gonna be
watching yet again. I feel like I haven't worked in
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weeks other than you on the telecast. But are we
feeling it? Are we starting to Are we starting to
get ready or it's you know, it's not till Sunday,
so we're not quite there yet. But are you getting
the are you getting the uh, the butterflies and uh
and and the nerves getting ratcheted up?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, starting to get excited. We obviously had some more
postseason game eighty three whatever you want to call it
basketball last night wasn't the best basketball, to be honest
with you last night. But but we'll have another appetizer tomorrow,
then we'll get the field officially set, and then Saturday
we'll start to really feel it as we watched the
other playoff series get going. But I did start dipping
into my Celtics prep this morning. Donte Okay, starting to
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crack the game notes open, look at some some similarities
to to losses on the season for Boston. There's only
twenty one of them to pick through, so man, there's
not the that's very true, and I think one of
those I don't want to read too deeply into because
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that game felt like a one that wasn't. It was
a postseason, preseason feel. I guess that last Wednesday against
the Celtics. But getting ready to go and team back
to work today as well, So here we go. It's uh,
it's it's it's gonna be a heck of a week
and a half, two weeks hopefully anyways coming up for
the Orlando Magic.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Well, this is what we get in this industry for right,
we get excited about the playoffs. Your work all season.
It's a grind. We we don't grind as much as
the players because we don't play a minute, but we're
still grinding. We're still grinding. We got something daily, right,
We're into it. It's it's a lot on the family
with the travel and and with your late nights and
all that stuff. So it's a lot of time away.
But this is the culmination. This is when everybody kind
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of kind of comes back and gets energized and rejuvenated. Right,
family and friends are excited. Magic fans deserve this. This
team is back and and we've got a postseason starting
and it's gonna be on Sunday at three point thirty.
We'll have the pregame show for you at three o'clock
right here on ninety six to nine in the game,
Jake Chapman and Jeff Turner. We'll be back on the
call a terrific job the other day and you guys
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will be reunited. But we'll go around the association. I
want to get your thoughts on the on the playing
games last night and then the playing games that are
coming your way on Friday. But you said it day
off yesterday for the magic today. They'll practice. They leave tomorrow, Jake,
which is interesting, game is not till Sunday. And and
the the idea getting up there maybe a couple of
days early, get acclimated, get a couple of good practices
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up there in that building in that setting, and uh
and be ready and they're gonna be dialed in. And
then you start wondering if Boston's gonna lose a game
or two right right at home in the first two games,
if they're gonna be beat could it be early game
Easter Sunday. Jason Tatum, Jaylen Brown haven't played in eight days, right,
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like all these things that go into it. If if
that team is primed to be upset in Game one,
could all those factors align on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, I like where you're going with this. First of all,
I think the idea of getting up there and getting
some working on that floor, et cetera, et cetera, is
a stroke of genius. And I think you know, you
don't have to look much further than Games one and
two in Cleveland last season, which were a different animal
because it was the first it was the first postseason
experience for any of our guys. But as we know,
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like every little bit matters, and so whether it's sight
lines or the lighting or all of that stuff, you
don't have any time to waste. You fall down twelve
to two or early in Game one against the Boston Celtics,
and it's gonna be a tough, uphill struggle the rest
of the afternoon. So for sure, you got to make
sure you're buttoned up in that regard. And then yeah,
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like I think I keep on thinking about christophs Perzingis
and how and how he has not proven that he
can play late into the season. Ever, He's played seven
postseason games, is his most ever in a playoffs, I
think we might have some advantages. When you look down
at the second unit, you think about a guy like
Jonathan Isaac, who we've talked a lot about what kind
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of impact he could make, and right now Jalen Brown
is banged up, He's got that bone bruise. So I
think there are some opportunities here. I do think we
match up well with them in certain regards. And and
I really think that, you know, just the way you've
been playing the last two weeks, which is what coach
Moseley was talking about before the Atlanta game, you know,
they've been treating it like a game at a time,
like a playoff game for the last few weeks because
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seating was on the line, night in and night out.
So I think the team is in the right mindset
right now to go up and just focus on let's
see if we can steal this one, and and that
turns an entire series on its ear. If you can
steal game one on Sunday afternoon in Boston, obviously a
very tough task, but boy, if you if you just
get that one, then all of a sudden, everybody, you know,
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all of a sudden, all the pressure is on Boston
for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Well, there's only been a handful of times that been
held under one hundred points and the Magic have done
it twice, right, So that's so they have some familiar
they've been able to kind of limit their scoring. And
then you know, they held him to one hundred and
four once, they held him to seventy six. I'm sorry
they held him under a hundred once, but they but
they did beat them twice. But there's only been a
handful of times you've held him under a hundred. And
if you can do that, if you can keep them
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as close to one hundred as possible. I heard Jamal
Moseley this morning on NBA Serious Radio with Brian Scalabrini
and Frank Isola, and it's, yeah, we know they make
seventeen point eight threes per game, but it's the way
they get threes. And where the Magic have had success
is not just running them off the line, but guarding
your yard is what is the phrase that he used
this morning. I thought that was very interesting. It's not Yeah,
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it's seventeen point eight three, So we got to run
out there at all costs, and we've got to make
sure they're not shooting threes. It's don't get beat off
the dribble where they then get in the paint and
then kick it out and they start spraying threes up.
You have to guard your yard, and you've got a
guy in Contavious Caldwell Pope that can do that. You've
got Franz Vogner that can do that, one of the
best in the NBA. Polo's certainly become a much better
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defender as well, Corey Joseph. You've got guys that give
you a chance with the way that they defend. So
you wonder, Okay, they've they've had success limiting Boston from
beyond the arc. So if you're starting to wonder if
they're gonna do it again, that might be the rest
of the two games with the fewest threes they've made
were against Orlando once they made seven and most recently
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they made seven, and then before that it was eight
against the Magic Right, so they you start thinking they
kind of have a little bit. I know, neither team
has been at full strength and they won't be going
into the playoffs, but you know, we neither team has
got a real true look at the other team at
any point during this during this series. But there is
a formula and there is a method that might keep
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them in this game in these games, Jake with the
with the way they protect the three point line.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
A Boston team that makes seventeen point eight three is
a game, as you just said. And in the three
games against US this year, they made ten point seven,
which is the lowest against any team. They played Denver
twice and they made thirteen in both of those games, and.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
The other two fewest Orlando seven and eight exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
And the other part is the three points three pointers attempted.
We are the best team in the league, and limiting
three pointers attempted, which obviously you know somewhat would take
Boston out of their game if you're able to execute that,
which goes back to exactly what you just said, running
them off the three point line, but then not falling
victim to them collapse in your defense. As we know,
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Tatum or Brown will knock down and open eighteen foot
edge and get to that mid rage and victimize you there.
And then I was also looking to get some some
tracking numbers this morning and some passing numbers, and Boston
is fourth in the league, fifth in the league. Excuse me,
secondary assists. Those hockey assists, right, four point four hockey
assists a game, And so there you go. That is
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that's exactly what they do. They start spraying that thing around.
There's such a good passing team, and their numbers reflect that.
The assist numbers in Boston's record when they out assist you, gosh,
I had it just a moment ago. It's insane. It's
like fifty one and four or something like that. Like,
and so it's a pretty big disparity when you when
you talk about the assist numbers, and it's not affected
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too much by pace because they're a slow pace team
just like we are. So they have the ability to
sort of play magic basketball but then knocked down a
ton of threes on top of it. And when you
phrase it like that, it's like, Okay, we're gonna get swept.
There are areas where I think we have the ability
to make up that gap rebounding, physicality, and just the
defense that we're able to bring night in night out.
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As you mentioned, we've got guys I think in size
and versatility, switching screens and making sure you know, there's
a big difference when you got a hand up and
you're a six foot nine defender as opposed to a
four defender. So sure, I think there are there are
ways for us to kind of shorten the gaps here
and there. But it's gonna it's gonna take. It's gonna
take a pretty perfect execution, especially in those first two
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games up in Boston.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Well, in the one game that the Magic lost to Boston,
it was in Boston, and the Magic still kind of
kept them right at their average. They made seventeen threes
in that basketball game. Orlando just couldn't score it all
ninety four points. That's the other part of this that
probably doesn't get enough play, doesn't get the play that
it should, is Boston's just a damn good defensive team too,
and they're gonna make it very difficult. And for the Magic,
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for their struggles which have been mighty on the offensive end,
and the inability to knock down threes consistently, and with
the way Boston defends, it's listen, it's gonna be a
monumental task. We know that it's gonna be a colossal
undertaking to knock off the Boston Celtics, but we'll the
Magic aren't going up there saying We're happy to be here.
This is great, this is so much fun. We're just
happy to be here. Let's play our four games and
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go home. They are going into this thing saying, starting
on Sunday, we're gonna win this series. And that's how
they feel. They've beaten them twice since twenty twenty two.
They have one of the best win percentages against the
Boston Celtics in the NBA. So they're going up there saying, hey,
we got to play the game, we might as well
win it. I love that mentality and that approach from
this magic team. They don't know what they don't know,
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and they're not gonna go up there and be afraid.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
That game on December twenty third is a one eight,
one oh four win a Kia Center. Hate Him was
a late scratch. Brown hit us for thirty five points,
but it only made one three. They went eight of
thirty three that night. It was one of those games
that you were talking about one of their season goals
as far as three pointers made. Do you remember it was?
You know, we were so banged up, we had uh yeah,
box trebling.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
There was no trebling. Queen was your leading score. It
was a big Tristan the silver late right.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
The Silva ends up your leading score. He finished with
eighteen trevel and at seventeen. Trebling played thirty four minutes
that night. But the Silva's big three put them up
to eighteen points. But we we, we turned. We made
them play a different style than they wanted to. And granted,
without Jason Tatum, they're not going to play their style.
But remember we had Treble and Queen fronting christophs Perzingis
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in the post.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yes, yes, yes, kept uping.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
The ball inside because it's the mouse in the house.
And Perzingis went two for ten in the game. Now
he went thirteen for fourteen at the free throw line. Correct,
but what but but I thought it was a brilliant
game plan in any game where you were totally outmatched.
You know, let's be honest, we didn't have our guys
that night, and we still were able to win that game,
and and Trouble And deserves a ton of credit for it,
so does everybody else, trusting everybody who contributed to that win.
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But the bottom line is we got to figure out
a way. And I'm not saying, you know, put the
shortest guy on the floor on on porzingis all series.
We got to figure out a way to just disrupt
their rhythm because when Boston, and sometimes that's a hard foul,
sometimes that's just you know, uh a digging in defensively
and showing them something that they haven't seen. When Boston
just gets going and they're just you know, it's a
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clinic offensively, they are able to just turn it into
a a shooting competition and we're not going to beat
them if that's the case. Just figuring out different sort
of maybe maybe you go zone for a little bit,
throwing change ups, and figuring out different ways deploying pressure
here and there, getting to the vol of the floor. I
think it's gonna be really important in this and that
that falls on the lap of coach mostly, and we've
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seen some some some pretty impressive stuff in that regard
thus far.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Well and Boston only lost four games last year on
their way to an NBA championship, right, but they but
those four games were head scratchingly incompetent where they just
go out there and settle for threes, bomb from long range.
They have one of those games a series where they're
just not into it. They're they're just not into it
and can you can you have one of those again?
And then can you get another one or two? I mean,
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it's that this is why we play the games, and
this is what makes it exciting. And this is I
tell you this, and we said this yesterday. Magic fans
that they do not want to play Orlando. They watched
that game hoping that that the Atlanta Hawks would get through.
There's no team that wants Orlando the way they defend.
But the way we defend is going to get Boston
ready for the playoffs. But can we can we steal
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some Can we steal a few games? Jake, right, one
more thing real quick. We have no pressure on us.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I mean, you you steal one game up there, everybody
is going to be locked in on oh my god, goodness,
can they pull this off? All of the pressure is
squarely on Boston's shoulders and and that's a pretty dangerous
place to be if you're a young Magic team.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Well I did it, and I did a podcast yesterday
with with the Boston Sports and they said, you know,
Boston's a team that's kind of been coasting. I'm not
sold that they can just flip a switch and turn
it on in the playoffs. I am. I'm not saying
they will. I'm not saying they will. But if there
was ever a team, if there was ever a team
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that could do that, it's a team that won the
championship and knows what it takes and then you get
to the playoffs and kick it up a not So
you've got to be ready for that too. Not saying
that we won't be right there with them as well.
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game is who the heck is going to take that
Sacramento GM job? But let's get everybody up to up
to speed after that that who takes that? Who who
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signs up for that? And the coaching position with Sacramento.
But regardless, we know the Orlando Magic beat the Atlanta Hawks,
so that was playing game number one, playing game number
two when we came home. Two nights ago was the
Golden State Warriors over the Memphis Grizzlies, so they advanced
those are we didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Talk about the end of that game yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Four mistakes for mistab There were mistakes all over the place.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Right too. Yeah, that came in and yet the biggest
mistake is a five second violation and the biggest play
of the game. You can't get the ball.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
In now, Jake, I listen, I have a soft spot
in my heart because that's all I watched from twenty
twelve to twenty twenty was us having a chance to
win a rare game and not getting the ball in bounced.
All you had to literally all you had to do
was get it in, catch it, and get fouled. That's
all you had to do game over five seconds. So
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I was but that can't happen that Sandy all Dom
has got to get the basketball, right, I mean, that
was So those are your seven seeds. Golden Steak gets
in as a seventh seed, they'll face Houston, the magic
in the Atlanta Hawks. So last night it was the
nine to ten matchups, and you have this is why
I wasn't over the terrified of Chicago. I mean, you know,
you know vuch is gonna do his thing, He's gonna
be a walking double double. But you and Giddy's been
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on fire, but you don't know what Kobe White's gonna get.
You don't know what they have coming off the bench.
They get absolutely destroyed by Miami one o, nine to
ninety and then Dallas Nico Harrison's Dallas Mavericks go into
Sacramento and set the Sacramento Kings of Blaze. I mean,
that was just what an abysmal. Ever since the rumor
started of d Aaron Fox, that entire team an organization
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has torpedoed. But we'll get your thoughts on that. The
Chicago Bulls walking into at home at home hosting the
Miami Heat and getting their doors blown off.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah, I mean, just no answer at all for Tyler Hero.
What do you have? Thirty eight points in the game?
And you're right, I mean it was that Chicago team
is was hit or miss, and last night they were
miss and look down the bench and it's like, oh,
I can't believe Taylor Horton Tucker didn't save them. That's
not it's just not a very deep bunch, you know,
they were. Chicago and Atlanta both are are kind of
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interesting to me. Obviously, Chicago season is done, Atlanta's maybe tomorrow.
I'm not sure what to make. I mean, it feels
like Miami's got kind of renewed, renewed life, and I
think that's I don't think. I don't think that's scary
for everybody. But I'm sure Cleveland would would prefer to
deal with Atlanta in round one, even though Atlanta actually
has beaten them a couple times this year. That was
the old version of the Hawks. I think. I think
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Chicago and Atlanta both made trades at the deadline that
we're trying to set up the future, and then it's
just like everybody who was left over, like well what
about this season? Where are we now? And with Atlanta,
it's like you got Lavert and Kneeang and if those
guys don't deliver, then what's left The core of what
they have there is basically Trey akong Wu and then
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you wait until Jalen Johnson comes back. But then as
far as Chicago goes, they really are I mean, they
need they need Kobe White to score thirty in order
for them to win a game like that, and against
Miami last night, that just wasn't gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Wasn't gonna happen. Josh Getty's been good. He's probably got
a payday coming. Uh. There's rumors in Phoenix that they're
going to extend Devin Booker a two year, one hundred
and fifty million dollar extension. I mean, that's unbelievable. He
may get that. But there's turmoil in Phoenix, right They
just fired their third coach, so they are now paying
three coaches not to coach, and tens of millions of
dollars to not coach that organization anymore. So they're either
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going to go back to one of those guys tailor.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Money is still getting paid by Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Money is still getting paid by Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Massive amount of money from Detroit.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
A massive amount of money. Right, So that that that's
the thing. So there's those guys are still getting paid
coach but now has four years and forty million dollars left.
Frank Vogel still getting paid in money, Williams. So there
and then we find out today that no, no money McNair,
Monny McNair, no more with the Sacramento Kings. He was
forced to fire his head coach and Mike Brown who
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was forced to trade his point guard in de Aaron Fox,
and then he was forced out the door by owner
of Vivic Ronadive. He's out. So now I ask you,
you know, if you're looking at that, and then and
then they proceed to go out there at home home
and get their doors blown off by the Dallas Mavericks.
I mean that no point in that game was that competitive.
After the start of the second quarter, right you had
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you had a nice performance from Klay Thompson who went
for twenty three, but it wasn't even Anthony Anthony Davis
twenty seven points, nine rebounds, and then you get thirty
three from DeMar dea rozen in your prize possession twenty
for Zach Lavine. But now they're gonna read Doug Christy,
did he do enough to win that job? Do you
take the interim label off of that? Who signs up
for that job? And then who wants to be the GM?
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We love our guy Matt Lloyd, who's the general manager
of the Minnesota Timberwolves. Eventually he's gonna run his own
ball club. He's rumored for that he's rumored for Denver.
He's rumored for some of these other jobs, so it'll
be interesting. There are some really good jobs out there,
some phenomenal jobs, and then there's some that will be challenging,
that will be we'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, let me just say as far as Denver goes like,
there's there's a bit of a reputation that they don't
pay their executives. The best player in the world place
for that franchise, he's gonna get somebody you can can
talk yourself into taking that job after Matt research Limited
resources aside. Sacramento is just you know, it's a it's
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a meddling owner who doesn't know what he's doing, and
maybe maybe he'll figure it out at some point. I mean, look,
I have go full nostalgia. Didn't Mike Bibby just get
hired a Sacramento State or something like that? Bring my
in is the GM and Doug Christy just punk heads
and figure it out together. See what pages up to
bring the whole gang back? Why not? What's mony d
Box doing? Is he still there?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Chris Weber? Bring Chris Weber back. It would be great
to have white chocolate as your coach or GM. I
think i'd be fair. I know he's available.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I can't turn on absolutely open up my phone without
seeing him on a podcast, So.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
For sure I would turn over the keys to that
whole thing to him. That's what I would do because
I would love to see what that guy knows what
it takes to win, and I would love to see
what his answer would be. And you want somebody that's
going to stand up to that or I think that's
a that's a guy you're not gonna because.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
J Will will walk out the door. There is nothing
man in the room. He doesn't want to be it.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
This is true and we love that about him, and
that'll be so. I would love to see what they
what they end up doing. But there are some fantastic
jobs and some surprising jobs, and Memphis, you know, where
does Memphis go? There are some there are some good
teams that are going to be looking for coaches and
executives here down the stretch. That'll do it for this
edition of Magic Insiders. Tomorrow we come back, we'll preview
game one, and we'll get ready for the final round
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of playing games tomorrow night. Have a great night, everybody.
No NBA games tonight. We're back tomorrow, three o'clock right here,
Ninety six to nine a game.
You're listening to Magic Insiders with Dante Marctelli and Jane Chemman.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Step back over, Durrant shot us up, Carro drills it
and the foal change for a three point preat big
time bag cam Fort headed.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Back the way.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
A steal by Franz Fondner to run out the fog
and get my to it. Fronz Fagner and the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm like, if this is your daily destination for all
the latest on the Orlando match.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Over it went down. Now back to Kalon. He's gonna
try another three, take out another.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
One forty seconds man Carol Jumper.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Whoo.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
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Speaker 2 (00:49):
And welcome everyone. It is another edition of Magic Insiders
were presented by International Diamond Center Dante Marcitelli, Jake Chapman
and Jake We're one day closer. We are one day
closer to the magic in the Boston self. So are
you ready? You're getting your your Easter stuff ready. We're
gonna get a visit from the Easter bunny here in
a couple of days. Uh, we're gonna get ready. I
don't have that game on Sunday, so I'm gonna be
watching yet again. I feel like I haven't worked in
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weeks other than you on the telecast. But are we
feeling it? Are we starting to Are we starting to
get ready or it's you know, it's not till Sunday,
so we're not quite there yet. But are you getting
the are you getting the uh, the butterflies and uh
and and the nerves getting ratcheted up?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, starting to get excited. We obviously had some more
postseason game eighty three whatever you want to call it
basketball last night wasn't the best basketball, to be honest
with you last night. But but we'll have another appetizer tomorrow,
then we'll get the field officially set, and then Saturday
we'll start to really feel it as we watched the
other playoff series get going. But I did start dipping
into my Celtics prep this morning. Donte Okay, starting to
(01:49):
crack the game notes open, look at some some similarities
to to losses on the season for Boston. There's only
twenty one of them to pick through, so man, there's
not the that's very true, and I think one of
those I don't want to read too deeply into because
(02:10):
that game felt like a one that wasn't. It was
a postseason, preseason feel. I guess that last Wednesday against
the Celtics. But getting ready to go and team back
to work today as well, So here we go. It's uh,
it's it's it's gonna be a heck of a week
and a half, two weeks hopefully anyways coming up for
the Orlando Magic.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Well, this is what we get in this industry for right,
we get excited about the playoffs. Your work all season.
It's a grind. We we don't grind as much as
the players because we don't play a minute, but we're
still grinding. We're still grinding. We got something daily, right,
We're into it. It's it's a lot on the family
with the travel and and with your late nights and
all that stuff. So it's a lot of time away.
But this is the culmination. This is when everybody kind
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of kind of comes back and gets energized and rejuvenated. Right,
family and friends are excited. Magic fans deserve this. This
team is back and and we've got a postseason starting
and it's gonna be on Sunday at three point thirty.
We'll have the pregame show for you at three o'clock
right here on ninety six to nine in the game,
Jake Chapman and Jeff Turner. We'll be back on the
call a terrific job the other day and you guys
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will be reunited. But we'll go around the association. I
want to get your thoughts on the on the playing
games last night and then the playing games that are
coming your way on Friday. But you said it day
off yesterday for the magic today. They'll practice. They leave tomorrow, Jake,
which is interesting, game is not till Sunday. And and
the the idea getting up there maybe a couple of
days early, get acclimated, get a couple of good practices
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up there in that building in that setting, and uh
and be ready and they're gonna be dialed in. And
then you start wondering if Boston's gonna lose a game
or two right right at home in the first two games,
if they're gonna be beat could it be early game
Easter Sunday. Jason Tatum, Jaylen Brown haven't played in eight days, right,
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like all these things that go into it. If if
that team is primed to be upset in Game one,
could all those factors align on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, I like where you're going with this. First of all,
I think the idea of getting up there and getting
some working on that floor, et cetera, et cetera, is
a stroke of genius. And I think you know, you
don't have to look much further than Games one and
two in Cleveland last season, which were a different animal
because it was the first it was the first postseason
experience for any of our guys. But as we know,
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like every little bit matters, and so whether it's sight
lines or the lighting or all of that stuff, you
don't have any time to waste. You fall down twelve
to two or early in Game one against the Boston Celtics,
and it's gonna be a tough, uphill struggle the rest
of the afternoon. So for sure, you got to make
sure you're buttoned up in that regard. And then yeah,
(04:45):
like I think I keep on thinking about christophs Perzingis
and how and how he has not proven that he
can play late into the season. Ever, He's played seven
postseason games, is his most ever in a playoffs, I
think we might have some advantages. When you look down
at the second unit, you think about a guy like
Jonathan Isaac, who we've talked a lot about what kind
(05:06):
of impact he could make, and right now Jalen Brown
is banged up, He's got that bone bruise. So I
think there are some opportunities here. I do think we
match up well with them in certain regards. And and
I really think that, you know, just the way you've
been playing the last two weeks, which is what coach
Moseley was talking about before the Atlanta game, you know,
they've been treating it like a game at a time,
like a playoff game for the last few weeks because
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seating was on the line, night in and night out.
So I think the team is in the right mindset
right now to go up and just focus on let's
see if we can steal this one, and and that
turns an entire series on its ear. If you can
steal game one on Sunday afternoon in Boston, obviously a
very tough task, but boy, if you if you just
get that one, then all of a sudden, everybody, you know,
(05:49):
all of a sudden, all the pressure is on Boston
for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Well, there's only been a handful of times that been
held under one hundred points and the Magic have done
it twice, right, So that's so they have some familiar
they've been able to kind of limit their scoring. And
then you know, they held him to one hundred and
four once, they held him to seventy six. I'm sorry
they held him under a hundred once, but they but
they did beat them twice. But there's only been a
handful of times you've held him under a hundred. And
if you can do that, if you can keep them
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as close to one hundred as possible. I heard Jamal
Moseley this morning on NBA Serious Radio with Brian Scalabrini
and Frank Isola, and it's, yeah, we know they make
seventeen point eight threes per game, but it's the way
they get threes. And where the Magic have had success
is not just running them off the line, but guarding
your yard is what is the phrase that he used
this morning. I thought that was very interesting. It's not Yeah,
(06:35):
it's seventeen point eight three, So we got to run
out there at all costs, and we've got to make
sure they're not shooting threes. It's don't get beat off
the dribble where they then get in the paint and
then kick it out and they start spraying threes up.
You have to guard your yard, and you've got a
guy in Contavious Caldwell Pope that can do that. You've
got Franz Vogner that can do that, one of the
best in the NBA. Polo's certainly become a much better
(06:56):
defender as well, Corey Joseph. You've got guys that give
you a chance with the way that they defend. So
you wonder, Okay, they've they've had success limiting Boston from
beyond the arc. So if you're starting to wonder if
they're gonna do it again, that might be the rest
of the two games with the fewest threes they've made
were against Orlando once they made seven and most recently
(07:18):
they made seven, and then before that it was eight
against the Magic Right, so they you start thinking they
kind of have a little bit. I know, neither team
has been at full strength and they won't be going
into the playoffs, but you know, we neither team has
got a real true look at the other team at
any point during this during this series. But there is
a formula and there is a method that might keep
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them in this game in these games, Jake with the
with the way they protect the three point line.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
A Boston team that makes seventeen point eight three is
a game, as you just said. And in the three
games against US this year, they made ten point seven,
which is the lowest against any team. They played Denver
twice and they made thirteen in both of those games, and.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
The other two fewest Orlando seven and eight exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
And the other part is the three points three pointers attempted.
We are the best team in the league, and limiting
three pointers attempted, which obviously you know somewhat would take
Boston out of their game if you're able to execute that,
which goes back to exactly what you just said, running
them off the three point line, but then not falling
victim to them collapse in your defense. As we know,
(08:20):
Tatum or Brown will knock down and open eighteen foot
edge and get to that mid rage and victimize you there.
And then I was also looking to get some some
tracking numbers this morning and some passing numbers, and Boston
is fourth in the league, fifth in the league. Excuse me,
secondary assists. Those hockey assists, right, four point four hockey
assists a game, And so there you go. That is
(08:42):
that's exactly what they do. They start spraying that thing around.
There's such a good passing team, and their numbers reflect that.
The assist numbers in Boston's record when they out assist you, gosh,
I had it just a moment ago. It's insane. It's
like fifty one and four or something like that. Like,
and so it's a pretty big disparity when you when
you talk about the assist numbers, and it's not affected
(09:04):
too much by pace because they're a slow pace team
just like we are. So they have the ability to
sort of play magic basketball but then knocked down a
ton of threes on top of it. And when you
phrase it like that, it's like, Okay, we're gonna get swept.
There are areas where I think we have the ability
to make up that gap rebounding, physicality, and just the
defense that we're able to bring night in night out.
(09:26):
As you mentioned, we've got guys I think in size
and versatility, switching screens and making sure you know, there's
a big difference when you got a hand up and
you're a six foot nine defender as opposed to a
four defender. So sure, I think there are there are
ways for us to kind of shorten the gaps here
and there. But it's gonna it's gonna take. It's gonna
take a pretty perfect execution, especially in those first two
(09:48):
games up in Boston.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Well, in the one game that the Magic lost to Boston,
it was in Boston, and the Magic still kind of
kept them right at their average. They made seventeen threes
in that basketball game. Orlando just couldn't score it all
ninety four points. That's the other part of this that
probably doesn't get enough play, doesn't get the play that
it should, is Boston's just a damn good defensive team too,
and they're gonna make it very difficult. And for the Magic,
(10:10):
for their struggles which have been mighty on the offensive end,
and the inability to knock down threes consistently, and with
the way Boston defends, it's listen, it's gonna be a
monumental task. We know that it's gonna be a colossal
undertaking to knock off the Boston Celtics, but we'll the
Magic aren't going up there saying We're happy to be here.
This is great, this is so much fun. We're just
happy to be here. Let's play our four games and
(10:31):
go home. They are going into this thing saying, starting
on Sunday, we're gonna win this series. And that's how
they feel. They've beaten them twice since twenty twenty two.
They have one of the best win percentages against the
Boston Celtics in the NBA. So they're going up there saying, hey,
we got to play the game, we might as well
win it. I love that mentality and that approach from
this magic team. They don't know what they don't know,
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and they're not gonna go up there and be afraid.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
That game on December twenty third is a one eight,
one oh four win a Kia Center. Hate Him was
a late scratch. Brown hit us for thirty five points,
but it only made one three. They went eight of
thirty three that night. It was one of those games
that you were talking about one of their season goals
as far as three pointers made. Do you remember it was?
You know, we were so banged up, we had uh yeah,
box trebling.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
There was no trebling. Queen was your leading score. It
was a big Tristan the silver late right.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
The Silva ends up your leading score. He finished with
eighteen trevel and at seventeen. Trebling played thirty four minutes
that night. But the Silva's big three put them up
to eighteen points. But we we, we turned. We made
them play a different style than they wanted to. And granted,
without Jason Tatum, they're not going to play their style.
But remember we had Treble and Queen fronting christophs Perzingis
(11:41):
in the post.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yes, yes, yes, kept uping.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
The ball inside because it's the mouse in the house.
And Perzingis went two for ten in the game. Now
he went thirteen for fourteen at the free throw line. Correct,
but what but but I thought it was a brilliant
game plan in any game where you were totally outmatched.
You know, let's be honest, we didn't have our guys
that night, and we still were able to win that game,
and and Trouble And deserves a ton of credit for it,
so does everybody else, trusting everybody who contributed to that win.
(12:07):
But the bottom line is we got to figure out
a way. And I'm not saying, you know, put the
shortest guy on the floor on on porzingis all series.
We got to figure out a way to just disrupt
their rhythm because when Boston, and sometimes that's a hard foul,
sometimes that's just you know, uh a digging in defensively
and showing them something that they haven't seen. When Boston
just gets going and they're just you know, it's a
(12:29):
clinic offensively, they are able to just turn it into
a a shooting competition and we're not going to beat
them if that's the case. Just figuring out different sort
of maybe maybe you go zone for a little bit,
throwing change ups, and figuring out different ways deploying pressure
here and there, getting to the vol of the floor. I
think it's gonna be really important in this and that
that falls on the lap of coach mostly, and we've
(12:50):
seen some some some pretty impressive stuff in that regard
thus far.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Well and Boston only lost four games last year on
their way to an NBA championship, right, but they but
those four games were head scratchingly incompetent where they just
go out there and settle for threes, bomb from long range.
They have one of those games a series where they're
just not into it. They're they're just not into it
and can you can you have one of those again?
And then can you get another one or two? I mean,
(13:14):
it's that this is why we play the games, and
this is what makes it exciting. And this is I
tell you this, and we said this yesterday. Magic fans
that they do not want to play Orlando. They watched
that game hoping that that the Atlanta Hawks would get through.
There's no team that wants Orlando the way they defend.
But the way we defend is going to get Boston
ready for the playoffs. But can we can we steal
(13:35):
some Can we steal a few games? Jake, right, one
more thing real quick. We have no pressure on us.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I mean, you you steal one game up there, everybody
is going to be locked in on oh my god, goodness,
can they pull this off? All of the pressure is
squarely on Boston's shoulders and and that's a pretty dangerous
place to be if you're a young Magic team.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Well I did it, and I did a podcast yesterday
with with the Boston Sports and they said, you know,
Boston's a team that's kind of been coasting. I'm not
sold that they can just flip a switch and turn
it on in the playoffs. I am. I'm not saying
they will. I'm not saying they will. But if there
was ever a team, if there was ever a team
(14:16):
that could do that, it's a team that won the
championship and knows what it takes and then you get
to the playoffs and kick it up a not So
you've got to be ready for that too. Not saying
that we won't be right there with them as well.
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Speaker 3 (14:57):
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game is who the heck is going to take that
Sacramento GM job? But let's get everybody up to up
to speed after that that who takes that? Who who
(15:51):
signs up for that? And the coaching position with Sacramento.
But regardless, we know the Orlando Magic beat the Atlanta Hawks,
so that was playing game number one, playing game number
two when we came home. Two nights ago was the
Golden State Warriors over the Memphis Grizzlies, so they advanced
those are we didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Talk about the end of that game yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Four mistakes for mistab There were mistakes all over the place.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Right too. Yeah, that came in and yet the biggest
mistake is a five second violation and the biggest play
of the game. You can't get the ball.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
In now, Jake, I listen, I have a soft spot
in my heart because that's all I watched from twenty
twelve to twenty twenty was us having a chance to
win a rare game and not getting the ball in bounced.
All you had to literally all you had to do
was get it in, catch it, and get fouled. That's
all you had to do game over five seconds. So
(16:44):
I was but that can't happen that Sandy all Dom
has got to get the basketball, right, I mean, that
was So those are your seven seeds. Golden Steak gets
in as a seventh seed, they'll face Houston, the magic
in the Atlanta Hawks. So last night it was the
nine to ten matchups, and you have this is why
I wasn't over the terrified of Chicago. I mean, you know,
you know vuch is gonna do his thing, He's gonna
be a walking double double. But you and Giddy's been
(17:06):
on fire, but you don't know what Kobe White's gonna get.
You don't know what they have coming off the bench.
They get absolutely destroyed by Miami one o, nine to
ninety and then Dallas Nico Harrison's Dallas Mavericks go into
Sacramento and set the Sacramento Kings of Blaze. I mean,
that was just what an abysmal. Ever since the rumor
started of d Aaron Fox, that entire team an organization
(17:26):
has torpedoed. But we'll get your thoughts on that. The
Chicago Bulls walking into at home at home hosting the
Miami Heat and getting their doors blown off.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah, I mean, just no answer at all for Tyler Hero.
What do you have? Thirty eight points in the game?
And you're right, I mean it was that Chicago team
is was hit or miss, and last night they were
miss and look down the bench and it's like, oh,
I can't believe Taylor Horton Tucker didn't save them. That's
not it's just not a very deep bunch, you know,
they were. Chicago and Atlanta both are are kind of
(18:00):
interesting to me. Obviously, Chicago season is done, Atlanta's maybe tomorrow.
I'm not sure what to make. I mean, it feels
like Miami's got kind of renewed, renewed life, and I
think that's I don't think. I don't think that's scary
for everybody. But I'm sure Cleveland would would prefer to
deal with Atlanta in round one, even though Atlanta actually
has beaten them a couple times this year. That was
the old version of the Hawks. I think. I think
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Chicago and Atlanta both made trades at the deadline that
we're trying to set up the future, and then it's
just like everybody who was left over, like well what
about this season? Where are we now? And with Atlanta,
it's like you got Lavert and Kneeang and if those
guys don't deliver, then what's left The core of what
they have there is basically Trey akong Wu and then
(18:43):
you wait until Jalen Johnson comes back. But then as
far as Chicago goes, they really are I mean, they
need they need Kobe White to score thirty in order
for them to win a game like that, and against
Miami last night, that just wasn't gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Wasn't gonna happen. Josh Getty's been good. He's probably got
a payday coming. Uh. There's rumors in Phoenix that they're
going to extend Devin Booker a two year, one hundred
and fifty million dollar extension. I mean, that's unbelievable. He
may get that. But there's turmoil in Phoenix, right They
just fired their third coach, so they are now paying
three coaches not to coach, and tens of millions of
dollars to not coach that organization anymore. So they're either
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going to go back to one of those guys tailor.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Money is still getting paid by Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Money is still getting paid by Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Massive amount of money from Detroit.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
A massive amount of money. Right, So that that that's
the thing. So there's those guys are still getting paid
coach but now has four years and forty million dollars left.
Frank Vogel still getting paid in money, Williams. So there
and then we find out today that no, no money McNair,
Monny McNair, no more with the Sacramento Kings. He was
forced to fire his head coach and Mike Brown who
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was forced to trade his point guard in de Aaron Fox,
and then he was forced out the door by owner
of Vivic Ronadive. He's out. So now I ask you,
you know, if you're looking at that, and then and
then they proceed to go out there at home home
and get their doors blown off by the Dallas Mavericks.
I mean that no point in that game was that competitive.
After the start of the second quarter, right you had
(20:09):
you had a nice performance from Klay Thompson who went
for twenty three, but it wasn't even Anthony Anthony Davis
twenty seven points, nine rebounds, and then you get thirty
three from DeMar dea rozen in your prize possession twenty
for Zach Lavine. But now they're gonna read Doug Christy,
did he do enough to win that job? Do you
take the interim label off of that? Who signs up
for that job? And then who wants to be the GM?
(20:30):
We love our guy Matt Lloyd, who's the general manager
of the Minnesota Timberwolves. Eventually he's gonna run his own
ball club. He's rumored for that he's rumored for Denver.
He's rumored for some of these other jobs, so it'll
be interesting. There are some really good jobs out there,
some phenomenal jobs, and then there's some that will be challenging,
that will be we'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, let me just say as far as Denver goes like,
there's there's a bit of a reputation that they don't
pay their executives. The best player in the world place
for that franchise, he's gonna get somebody you can can
talk yourself into taking that job after Matt research Limited
resources aside. Sacramento is just you know, it's a it's
(21:09):
a meddling owner who doesn't know what he's doing, and
maybe maybe he'll figure it out at some point. I mean, look,
I have go full nostalgia. Didn't Mike Bibby just get
hired a Sacramento State or something like that? Bring my
in is the GM and Doug Christy just punk heads
and figure it out together. See what pages up to
bring the whole gang back? Why not? What's mony d
Box doing? Is he still there?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Chris Weber? Bring Chris Weber back. It would be great
to have white chocolate as your coach or GM. I
think i'd be fair. I know he's available.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I can't turn on absolutely open up my phone without
seeing him on a podcast, So.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
For sure I would turn over the keys to that
whole thing to him. That's what I would do because
I would love to see what that guy knows what
it takes to win, and I would love to see
what his answer would be. And you want somebody that's
going to stand up to that or I think that's
a that's a guy you're not gonna because.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
J Will will walk out the door. There is nothing
man in the room. He doesn't want to be it.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
This is true and we love that about him, and
that'll be so. I would love to see what they
what they end up doing. But there are some fantastic
jobs and some surprising jobs, and Memphis, you know, where
does Memphis go? There are some there are some good
teams that are going to be looking for coaches and
executives here down the stretch. That'll do it for this
edition of Magic Insiders. Tomorrow we come back, we'll preview
game one, and we'll get ready for the final round
(22:27):
of playing games tomorrow night. Have a great night, everybody.
No NBA games tonight. We're back tomorrow, three o'clock right here,
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