June 30, 2025 • 45 mins
Gotta live it BIG TIME! Big Time Rush’s Carlos and James join Will and Sabrina to talk about their upcoming summer tour, Dancing with the Stars and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Thank you everybody so much for joining us on this
park hopper episode of Magical Rewind. And this really is
a hopper because we're not only hopping from movies to music,
but we're also hopping networks, which we've never done before.
We're hopping from Disney to Nickelodeon, which is the reverse
of what I did.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I hoped Nickelodeon to Disney.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
But I'm we're going backwards, so I'm.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Into it, opening up another door for us guys here onway.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
You everything we can talk about here.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So we're very excited because this band, I guess we
should say because they're also actors, but this band is
making a comeback and I think going on.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Tour, yes, big tour.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So we are very very excited. We have two of
the members here, so two of the four pretty to
have both James and Carlos from Big Time Rush, so
help us welcome them. Hi, how are you both doing?
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Get out of here, of course doing.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We're good. We're so excited.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
You you're our first ever to jump ship and be
from Nickelodeon. We were strictly Disney, but we were like,
we can't not talk to you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You know what, there's always room for improvement.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
No, okay, we're starting this morning off with some fighting words.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I was saying, this is we normally do Disney and
then go and now we're going to Nickelodeon, which is
the reverse of what I did, because I started on
Nickelodeon and then went to the channel. I did what
I was an old school Nickelodeon. I got slimmed on
Nickelodeon back in the ear. That's how Nickelodeon I was,
Yes see, but like for.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
So, I mean listen, full disclosure a huge fan, like, oh,
thank you, we're talking with you. But what were you
on Nickelodeon.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I was on a show called Don't Just Sit There
for three years where we were like a young Saturday
Night Live. We had special guests and a band and
all that cool kind of stuff.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
So yeah, so is this like before all that?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Oh way before this was in nineteen eighty seven, I
went up and was on the original you Can't Do
That on television in Canada and had the slime.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Drop on me and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, old you were like og og og Nickelodeon. But
we're not here to talk about me. We can if
you'd like. But there's so much going on for you
guys right now, not just what you've been through, but
you've got a whole bunch of new stuff coming up.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I don't even know where to No, let's start at
the beginning, Sabrina.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
We always do that, Start at the beginning.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Let's start at the beginning, big time.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Rush, Can you tell us a little bit about how
you heard about this project? Was this were you singers
that then were also actors? Were you actors that were
also singers? Was this just a regular audition?
Speaker 6 (02:56):
Take us through everything, dude, I feel like every actor
is like, I'll do it.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
I sin, I dance, I juggle.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It's on my resume. It's on my resume.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
Me like back in the day when you would load
up your resume and you're like, I can juggle, I
can do.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
This horseback ride.
Speaker 8 (03:12):
Sure, yeah, right, exactly, Yeah, I could do any accent
in the world.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It just had all dialects and it's okay, that's fine, But.
Speaker 8 (03:21):
It was for us, it was literally an audition. It
was a pretty crazy process. I know, every screen test
and you know, look to get on any TV show
is not an easy feat and often a crazy process,
but this one in particular was two years where we
all came in at different times. Logan and I were
in the first round of auditions.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
They ever did.
Speaker 8 (03:41):
They took thousands of people from across the country, blew
us in for that one, and I think the next
two or three and hey, can you sing?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Catch you with a singing coach? Can you dance? Get
you the dancing coach? Can you act?
Speaker 8 (03:52):
They'd put us together in pairs of four, and we
did a whole screen test, then they recast, did it again,
then they recast.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Carlos, you're in the second or third, third round of that.
Speaker 8 (04:01):
Yeah, and then they picked four of us that didn't
include Kendall. We shot a whole million dollar pilot without
Kendle with another chapter, and then they.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Said, yeah, it's good, but it could be better. Let's
recast again.
Speaker 8 (04:13):
Oh oh, I mean, I'll say all that to say that,
you know, we were hopeful after two years and four
rounds of screens ask that this would work, and it
could have not worked, but luckily it turned out to
be the biggest live action premiere in the history of Nickelodeon.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
And I was back when people watched TV. I mean
remember that, you guys. I mean, like y'all were you
guys were in the prime of when kids actually tuned in.
But for us, I think we got something like fourteen
million kids just huge watching watching the premiere. Now you're
lucky to get.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Half a million. That's terrible.
Speaker 8 (04:44):
That's like, but you do a good TikTok and you
get twenty million nights well, because that's the attention span
now is like you got fifteen seconds entertained me.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh man.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So okay, so a two year kind of process the
entire time going through. Were are you making friends? I
mean you said the James that you were there from
the beginning? So were you making friends with people where
it's like we're going to do this show together and
then they're gone and it's like, Okay, I guess we're
going to go.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
To the next round.
Speaker 8 (05:12):
There are a couple people that I keep in touch
with from then, So I don't want to say that
I wasn't making friends, but I wasn't there to make friends, right,
you know, we.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Were there at audition like this was a life opportunity.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
So you're cool with everyone, but it's like the industry
auditioning for yourself, so perhaps other people had to have
different perspectives on it.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
But man, I mean we showed up and we're ready
to work. Now.
Speaker 8 (05:33):
As it got further along, I think that changed a
little bit. Like when there's you know, Logan and Carlos
and the other guy were like, hey, this works pretty well.
We felt it too, right, We're like, hey, something is working.
And clearly, you know, three fourths of that worked well together.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And so by the time.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
That Kendall came, he actually came back to the audition
and he had known Logan. So there's a couple of
little moments of I don't know if it's serendipity or
coincidence or familiarity that we always want.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Like we really like this pod, can we stick with
this one?
Speaker 5 (06:02):
You know?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So we did fight for it eventually.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
The beginning, you know, you were there just like, hey,
tell me where you want me to go? You need
me to dancing, like I want to get the jokes.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
How old were you guys?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Oh, what was it like? Eighteen ninths?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Okay, so what was your guys' life?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Obviously you guys were you know, in the in the business,
auditioning all the time. What was your kind of regular
life before this band finally got the the final mold
together and the magic happened.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
So I I had I had just done a a
reality show called Making Manudo.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
They were trying to they were trying to remake Manudo.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Oh my gosh, I remember this.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
It was called like Road to Manudo and then Making Manudo.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
But we ended up in a house or like a
hotel in Miami for a whole summer, you know, dancing
and singing and like you're doing the thing. And I
got like seventh, you know, like I was like almost
was seventh or eighth. I was like almost almost of
the five. And I was really like bitter about the
whole thing.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
So I was like, ah, screwboy bands. I'll never do boy.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
Bands again, like a really, really obnoxious seventeen year old,
just like and then I get this audition. We go
through the whole process and like James said, like we
we we did a pilot, but there was a year
between the pilot and shooting again, so we all basically
like no one.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Told us who they were recasting. So I go through all.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
This you know, trauma of this boy bed thing. I
booked this thing and then it's like, cool, we'll call you.
And then all we heard in the middle of this
year was they're recasting someone.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
They didn't tell us.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It's just a slow no y. So you weren't during
the year you were. It wasn't like you were rehearsing
and getting.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
To know you listen. I would put off.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
I would literally I went to the Boston Conservatory for
a year, so I was like, I'm going to Broadway,
but I still have to do all my regular classes.
So I would put off doing like, you know, my essays,
and I'd be like, dude, I just booked a TV.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
Show and they're gonna call me any minute, and.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
I'm gonna be and let me tell you.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
I finished the entire freshman year like but with that mentality,
and then it'd be like the last week and I
have to do all my paperwork and everything, but they
called us, I think James what it was like July
July of that next summer, so for me, right before
going in for sophomore year, and they're like, hey, you're
not the one that we're recasting, where I was just like,
(08:32):
oh crap.
Speaker 8 (08:35):
One of the executives, Paula, who was the scariest one
on the board then and now.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
She's like, you know, we love her. She we love her,
She's like family.
Speaker 8 (08:44):
I mean, surely we did become, you know, like family
with a lot of the people on our set. I
got to say we had a great experience overall, but
but objectively. And I've told her this and she didn't
bat an eye.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I'm like, you're the scariest lady I've ever met.
Speaker 8 (08:57):
We were up there and you would just scare not
you know, unemotional, and just be like okay, thanks and
like everyone else be smiling and happy and you weren't.
And she'd go, I know, I'm good at my job.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
It's not the job, but.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Anyways, I love her.
Speaker 8 (09:12):
She at one point casually was like, oh yeah, you
had it since round one, And I was.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Like, what you couldn't have told ball that to me?
All times? I thought I had a job and lost
a job. I had a job lost a job.
Speaker 8 (09:24):
So you know, we can laugh about it now, right,
But you know, I was sleeping on couches to be
in LA.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I was driving up from sant I was just gonna
ask if this was in LA. So this was in
Los Angeles by this poor yeah.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
Okay, And it was at the point where I'm like, well,
it's cost me so much in gas to get up here, Like, honestly,
I think i'd save money if I just got a
crappy apartment.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I rented a room and I literally did that at seventeen.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
So I didn't go back and forth so much, and
I was auditioning for other projects and there was one
that came along. In fact, it was a Disney movie.
I forget what it was. They came wrong, and I
went to producers and I told my agents basically tell
them I'm doing this.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I need to work.
Speaker 8 (10:02):
And I remember it was that, I swear to god
it was that same day or that same week the
contract came through, Like, actually, we're ready to.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Go with you guys.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
That's a nice you know, anything.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
To do with it.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
But I'm distinctly remembering like I'm kind of stuck in
limbo with this thing, and like, I want to start
my career, so you know, maybe I can thank Disney
for getting me close to something else and there you go, Hey,
nothing will get you signed to one of those companies,
like the other company being interested in that, right, Hey,
you really.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You can't remember what Disney movie that was?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Was it a dcon?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Truly?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
For the channel?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Sabrina's not gonna be able to write it.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
I gotta know, I can't remember like the lines in
my head of like what we're doing in walking it.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Okay, it might have been a Xeno.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
No, I don't know, it was way before.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
But there's like four xenos.
Speaker 8 (10:55):
This is gonna drive you guys crazy, And I promise
you I'm never gonna think about this again for different people.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
We get it, we get it.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Oh my, by the way, that same crappy apartment you
rent it is now eleven thousand dollars a month and
at least.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And they haven't renovated. No, it's been exactly the same.
The cost of living in la is crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So you finally they put they put you guys together
and you come onto the set the first day you're
all together.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Did the music everything?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Did it all just click right away? Or was this
a real growth process?
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I mean, look it's no, it's no.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Uh, it's we were trying to mimic the hand of
Montana success. I mean, Nickelodeon was like, look look at
Hannah Montana, how do you do it?
Speaker 5 (11:45):
With boys.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Jonas had just had a TV show called Jonas, and
it was like, how do we do this?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
They thought they came out. I thought their show came
after ours, did it? I feel like it was then
it was a band already.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
But anyways, it was very similar at the time. We
just played to show them. By the way, super great, amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
But we're not really brothers. A lot of people don't
know that.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
They're just read it exactly.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
You see he's got the mustache, you see.
Speaker 8 (12:12):
James, we're trying to match. I was just outside, get
some son, like we're gonna get there.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yeah, but we we.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
We came in and they had a bunch of music
for us, so like there, their idea was, let's hire
and pay whatever it costs for the biggest producers out there.
I mean, we had a song with Desmond Child's, uh,
Kevin Rudolph, like these huge people. But at the end
of the day, it didn't feel like ours. It just
kind of felt like, here's the song. Sing it, Candle,
(12:39):
you sing this, James, you sing this, Carlos Logan boom
bam boom. And that first season, look, it worked, it
was great, but I think the four of us we
really had a passion for writing music, and it kind
of took everybody a little bit off guard because it
was like, oh, you guys actually want to write stuff,
like yeah, set up sessions, put us with good producers,
and that second and third album we started writing and
did most of the music, and then our new was
(13:00):
in the episode and it kind of became this thing.
And I think that's what ultimately led to our success.
I feel like, if we had just let them send
us songs and we cut it and we become this
cookie cutter thing, but we didn't want that, and I
think they didn't expect it.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
But it was good for everybody. But it also took
us to a different level.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Which you know, has had its it's not issues, but
had its crazy time.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
And then we decided we wanted to have less time. Basically, yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 8 (13:25):
I actually and we had We had a very successful
an R. We first started this a guy named Jay
Landers sold one hundred million records. I think Jay, oh yeah,
it was our original A and R. And his assistant was
Maria Egan. He has had a tremendous success on her
own since then, but she was just working for Jay
(13:46):
at the time and she kind of took over and
they had a very different idea of how the band
should go. But Jay always said, and I honestly think
he was right at the time, that if he we
just let him and you know, Sony Columbia go and
find the biggest songs and not an anything to do
with the writing, that the project.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Would have been bigger.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
And you know what, I think that's actually true at
that time, at the beginning.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
But to Carlos's point, I don't think.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
We would have ever had an opportunity to come back
and build the band up like we have because we
actually did create what the band was. It was authentically us,
from starting from learning how to write, then getting pretty
good to learning how to put on a show. So
now dare I say we play with the best of them.
We're damn good at that, and we're proud.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
To say it. We've done you know, thousands of shows
at this point.
Speaker 8 (14:29):
Probably, And I think that led to the future that
none of us could have predicted, which is we took
a big break. They let the brand go dormant, they
didn't really service it. Then the Spotify was hacked. When
we came back in and said.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Luigi had it so seriously and he was promoting his
own music on our spotify.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Oh my god, yeah, we probably should hire him.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
We've joked about it, but you know, but you know,
to close the loop on this, you know, when we
brought it back, we had no concept of whether it
would work or not, nor could we predict it to be
bigger now than it was then. And by just about
any metric, it is. And it's because we actually are
a band. Yeah, because we actually went figured it out
and now this is round two of doing it.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So yeah, it's pretty wilda I think there is.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
That's so much to say about how you guys took
it from Like you said, what could have been cookie cutter,
but instead.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You molded it.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
You molded who each not character, but each bandmate was
like what were their best you know, what they brought
to the band. And I think fans, especially during the
time you guys came out, had already seen so many
variations of it. They saw even with Miley, Miley wanted
to take more control of her career and starting to
(15:43):
write and being a part of that process. And so
if you hadn't done that, they really wouldn't have bought
into it. Instead, they bought into what you guys really
brought from your heart and who you guys were as
bandmates to each other.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
And that's like amazing and brilliant. By the way, good
job guys.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
That was like pretty I.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Bet you if we tried to do that same if
somebody tried to do that same exact formula again, these
create these execs are smart enough now to not let
people do.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Do what we did.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
We were so lucky at the time that it was
kind of new and it was like, okay, well let
them do this and let them explore. Like I constantly
have to remind ourselves, like back then, we literally worked
for them no matter what, Like we were still an
employee of whatever it.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
Was the right they owned everything, and you know, we
weren't getting paid a percentage of the gross, like we
had our weekly salary, we went on tour, had our
weekly salary and all this stuff.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
To come now ten fifteen years later and here we
are and now we run the show. It's really weird
because I think about, hey, how much money those guys
made back then and it was way different, but be like,
nobody's going to get that opportunity again.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
And we were so lucky and we were so lucky.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, you find that with everything.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I mean even nowadays you find something as small as well,
I say small and with a capital or small ass
podcasting where if you do a show, you sign a contract.
Now where it's like, oh, if you ever do a
podcast based on this show, we get x them. I
mean it's things they weren't expecting to happen. Now somebody
does it. They're successful at it. Oh we need a
piece of that as well. It's just the normal way
(17:21):
of the business. But you're talking about your fans. So
I'm curious. You said you had the biggest premiere for
a live action show in Nickelodeon history.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Huge.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
How does your life change after that show comes out?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
The girls just start coming, man.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I bet they were flocking like Sae.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
In case they were already there. So that's.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
I was a Latino boy from South Florida.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
This was like because, like James, it was right around Thanksgiving,
right when we first yeah, like first premiere something.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I was home.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
I was home and my mom threw a party in
all my high schoo friends came and everyone was just like,
oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
And I was like, this is cool.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
But outside of that. Like we've we've talked about this
a few times over the years. We didn't fully.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
Grass the size of the situation or how life had
changed that much because we were too busy, like ye
straight up, yeah, okay, we'd hear these numbers like biggest premiere,
and then we go back to filming the show, you know,
and we hear you know, this thing, and we'd play
our show then go back.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
We wouldn't, you know.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
We didn't have days off for years at a time,
and we learned, oh, we could ask for Sunday off,
and we eventually found a little bit more of a balance.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
But truthfully, we also needed that big break after seven
years of doing this, whatever the time frame was.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
And again I look at all this as you know,
a bit of God's plan blessing into skies. We were
here because of that past, good and bad, and so
they're not complaining about it, but we didn't fully recognize
the size of it, probably well maybe at least before
our first show. Like actors get stopped in the street
in a while, when musicians show up, I have ten
(19:02):
twenty thousand people screaming at them. Yeah, that is a
seismic shift of like our first show was not that many.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
You know, I was gonna I was gonna ask you
what were your first shows like and how did they build?
Like I know, with us, two different things obviously the
size of fans, but also the budget. Like Disney with
the Cheetah Girls, we went on a first like Christmas tour.
We put out a Christmas album and our set broke
on the way to the first show because it was
(19:30):
so it was like so bad and I mean again,
we had the best time.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Didn't care.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
They fixed it. We gotta, we got a thing whatever.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
But it went from that to them like I think
of what we had on our third, our third tour,
and it was like, you know, because of the success,
Like what was that like for you guys? Did you
guys start How small did it start for your first
couple of shows? Cause those are fun too to think about.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Well, our first ever, which so so it's a two
part question. So our first ever was not a small show.
They did a special in the middle of Times Square.
They spent a million dollars built of stage and and.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
We were like it was it was nuts And I
watch it.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Back now and I'm like, dang, we sucked. Like that
was terrible, not a great first show. But our first
like real show was a radio show that we headlined
in Henderson, Nevada. And it was so like, we're headlining
this radio show. We only knew fifteen minutes of music.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It was four or songs, it was. It was that's
all we have.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
And I remember, like we were so fun, we were
so nervous, and we go out and we're in Henderson, Nevada.
We're like, freak, our first big show. We do our
fifteen minutes and leave and everyone's.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Like that's it, and we're like, we.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Don't have anything going. We don't know anything. You don't know.
We never knew we needed it all.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
So it was in charge of you.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Who did you guys have then, because I feel like
whoever was in charge should have said, like, let's let's
do in between these two songs we're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
We're gonna fill it, like.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
We don't have that manager anymore.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Okay, start smart, Yeah, okay, okay, all right, I get
it out.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Okay we we we didn't again, like you just go
back to like we didn't really have control over it,
and no one really knew what this was. Like Nickelodeon
had never done this, so they were like they were
going out trying to hire the best people Sony Columbia,
help us out this and that.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
So everybody learned as we went pigs.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Yeah, and there's there's one summer that I'll never forget
is James and I don't remember. It was our second
or third big tour, but we had started like seeing
how big this thing was, and we were working. I
mean one summer we did seventy four seventy five shows.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Like back to back to back to back.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
We don't like, I mean crazy, it was crazy.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
It was crazy.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
I mean five six shows in a row. I think
we did seven in a row or eight in a row. Yeah, day,
which we just won't we won't do to our bodies anymore.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
No, yeah, wouldn't that just shred your voice?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
But I'm everything.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Were twenty one years old, so they're like screw it,
and we were here, top of our lives.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
But but I remember this was the tour that we
kind of made a little stink.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
It was a little to little tea and we said, hey,
we would like to participate in more than just these
like weekly salaries, like we're seeing this and they were like, Okay,
no problem.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
So we did this split with them, but this was
so fast.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
We're like, why did we asked for this before?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah, but like I'm amazed it took you guys this long.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Of course you can learn.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Here's here's where we screwed up.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
This was the tour that they were like, fine, since
we're all, you know, three way partners on this Nickelodeon
Columbia and you guys, what do.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
You guys want on the show?
Speaker 7 (22:36):
We're like, we want this, we want to lift, we
want Pyro, we want.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
This, and they were like, no problem.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
And then at the end of the tour when it
came time to get our check, I was like, we
did one.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Hundred show, where's the money?
Speaker 7 (22:46):
And they were like, oh, they took it out of
years sent it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Got gross and some parties got there.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
We don't understand the different right at twenty one, you
didn't understand how that worked.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
But we learned.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
So, I mean, it sucked, but it was such a
blessing to like, actually do what we love make make
could still make good money, but learn how this business
works because people are getting to take advantage.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Of the left.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
You know, I love you brought that up because so
many people don't understand out there, like when bands go
out and like how you can have a band that's
just epic, but then things like that happen and they
end up the back end. Nobody really really realizes what
the back end ends up being for bands and why it.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
Yeah, really, label deals and label advanced are extremely complicated.
Jelly Roll was talking about this recently and he broke
it down pretty simply, and it's like, let's say that
you have a seventy thirty splay, which is actually not
that bad these days, it's more like eighty twenty for
a lot of artists. The label called a million bucks
for easy math, they advanced you million bucks. They they
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don't recoup the first million dollars. They keep seventy percent
of it and only count your thirty percent against recouping it.
So the basic math there is you have to make
three point three million dollars that you don't see that
before you recoup your million. And what happens along the
way is you go, actually, I need fifty grand for
this video, we need half a million for this tour,
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and they go, no problem.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, because they're making the same difference on everything.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
So I mean, like, oh, you want to go on
that red carpet, cool, no problem. You want a stylist,
you want to limit, you want.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
There are definitely companies that are better than others and
people more aware of it than so I'm certainly not
saying a blanket statement that they're all bad. It's something
that if you don't ask, they're probably not going to
tell you.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
It's it's maybe it's business. Maybe it's just business.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
But I love that there are more people talking about
it and more education out there, because if you understand
the deal you do and they give you an opportunity
and they put up a ton of money and it
starts your career, than fantastic and that is a great
way to go. Sometimes you need to pay your dues
to launch this, which we very much did.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, well, I mean it's yeah, it's it's one of
those things where you look at the progression of child
actors and musicians and everything and you go back. I mean,
the dog that played Toto made more money than Judy
Garland did when they were doing That's an actual, So
it's so it's one of those things where you're you're
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so when especially when you're a kid, you're so happy
to be working. Oh my god, I'm getting this job.
I get to be on Nickelodeon, I get to be
on Disney. That that stuff doesn't matter. And then when
you start to grow up a little bit and you're like, wait.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
Well, what they say is because you know, they send
out these contracts and they're like, look, you're seventeen years old,
you're sixteen, nineteen whatever.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
There are so many of you out there.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Who will who will take exactly what's written right here exactly.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Take it or leave it.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
But you're lucky to be here, kid, You're lucky to
be you know what.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Like James said, you got to pay your dues, so
you signed that and you're like, all right, cool, how long?
Speaker 8 (25:40):
Yeah, you know, flip side, flip side. With success, all
parties should reap the benefits of that. Yeah, we go
back to them second, third season, fourth season. Look was
it fair in terms of absolutely probably not. However we
received more. You know, and again if you ask when
you work with it in your teammate and you're putting
in it's super successful. Contracts are made to be revised.
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In fact, contracts be broken to some degree, so you know,
end of the day, it was still an amazing opportunity.
It started this whole thing and silver lining the blessing
in the skies here is they did We're still going,
you know, one hundred million dollars or something that we
never could have put into this. That launched something that
now we've been able to carry on and have eggs exactly.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
I mean, it definitely gave you opportunities and open doors
that you guys wouldn't have been able to do on
your own.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
So you have to.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
And they're fun companies to work people Forget working for Nickelodeon,
working for Disney, you have fun, you have a good name,
I'm working for These are.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Living the dream you've grown up wanting to do this.
So although yes, is.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
It excruciatingly exhausting sometimes absolutely, but you're literally singing in
front of fans that know every single word. They've watched
every single episode, they can repeat the episode. They know
what your favorite ice cream is like, they show up
with the cookies that you put on your favorite I mean,
the fans are amazing, they are really honestly what makes
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all of that hard work feel like it disappears because
it's so fun and the kids out there are just
eating it up.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
And they love you and you love doing it for them,
So it's.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Gosh, I love your positivity. Let's go.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
I'm so stoked that you guys are getting a chance
to go back out there.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
And now that's what I want to ask about. What's
what now?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
How did what sparked the new tour? What's sparked coming back?
Are there plans to do a new show or a movie?
Can you tell us anything? Everybody's excited.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
I mean, look, we we've been talking about it for
a long time and then we've done.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
This will be our third summer out uh and and
this I mean.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
Europe, right, yeah, true, this will be our biggest I think,
our biggest tour that we've ever done. We're really going
back to the nostalgia of the TV show Gustavo Rock
played by Stephen Gramer Glickman and Caitlin Tarver who played Joe.
They're all gonna come on the road with us, and
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we've never done that. I mean, when I say that,
Steven's been for this moment for the last fifteen years,
like we're not even paying him, He's doing it for free.
I'm kidding, but.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Totally untrue.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
It's gonna be fun yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I mean what sparked this?
Speaker 8 (28:19):
I mean we just you know, wanted to get back together,
and then the fans just showed us how much that
they love the fact that we are and so so
long as they want us to keep making music and
going out there, we just feel grateful to be able
to do it.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Did you stay close?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Sorry, I was just gonna ask in the in the meantime,
did you stay close between when the show ended and
coming back on tour now where we were all still
in each other's lives and we.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Already kind of drift like you normally do, we.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
All just wanted to do other things. We all get
together the space and the breath that we needed. You know,
everybody went off and did their own movies or music
or both. Uh, started families. But when we came back together,
it was I think with even more experience and more
respect in many ways that.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
We could have possibly had. And we were seventeen to
twenty three or whatever, that window.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Was well, and now and now we're running a business
together versus before we were just employees.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
Like I think there's just a different respect for the
whole thing.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
And it's like, look, we want to have fun, we
want to make money and make memories.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
So how do we do all of that together? And
so far, so good.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, it's different when it's your responsibility. All of a sudden,
it's like.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Do we need the Piro?
Speaker 8 (29:23):
I can tell you we definitely won't have Pyro. We
have for toasters, which makes me sad. But you know
many people you need to run a single toaster.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Well, I mean you have to build your own stage.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
You literally have to build your own It's we've learned
how expensive it is to tour.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
I mean just my my my family comes with us.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
So I got all my kids, I got the dog,
and we have our own bus and my kids love
it and and it.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
You know, it's.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
Expensive just to rent a bus for two months.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
So it's like you have to factor all these costs
in and then go, okay, well are we gonna shoot
that Pyro?
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Are we gonna get the screen?
Speaker 6 (29:58):
And you know, us, us being the business owners, now
it's really put us in the you know, in this
position of like how do we give the best show
to the fans, but also but also like make it
profitable And that's really tough nowadays.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
In the show it's so tough.
Speaker 8 (30:12):
To piggyback that you know, we're going around the world
and so when you get into customizations, it costs more
money but also takes more time. And we are we
are adding more shows by the way. We can't announce
where yet, but they're very much in the works several
more countries. And in order to play the same show,
going to a set, for example, that we can recreate
in each country.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Is very important.
Speaker 8 (30:33):
So there's interesting things we've learned along the way to
make it fun and make the fan experience way better
everywhere we go.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Wow, I wanted to ask.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
So I've got a chance to go to the Spice
Girls tour when they and it was their twenty year
or something, and they just it was the first time
they came back and did a reunion door and I
got to go and stage was so different. You know,
I had been doing The Cheetah Girls in an arena,
you kind of know the thing. They had separate rooms
for like a playroom for the kids.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
So it was like way.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
More like family oriented versus like ours. There was like,
you know, a bar for the roadies were like set
up versus like that room was designated as like a playroom,
Like what's that looking like different than when you guys
toured when you were younger. What's the what's the road
like different?
Speaker 5 (31:25):
It's a mixture. It's a mixture.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
I mean, we're we're all pretty health conscious, so like,
you know, for us, it's not really crazy food. I mean,
you know James, James kind of leads all the workouts
for everybody, and we make it a point to go
to the gym for a couple hours every single day.
And you know, James has a dog. I got my
kids and my dog. So we're playing on the lawn
getting sun. I feel like back in the day, it
was just.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Like, yeah, we're in Minnesota, let's go right.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
Yeah, I'm actually really excited for this tour. I'm taking
a complete year off of drinking. I mean, I haven't
really done it much in the last few years. But
there's habits you build before, Like you know, you're twenty
one years old, You're can go play a show and
so many cheers as you and you have a shot
for the thing. You kind of sure things that just
you know, we're in our thirties now. We want to
put on the best show every night, and more important,
like we want to feel good we have other responsibilities.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Like Carlos and I love.
Speaker 8 (32:15):
Waking up early, love going and getting our workouts. You know,
some of the guys come, I mean Logan's comes pretty often,
but Carlos is very dedicated. I enjoy a different side
of life and a different side of touring now, so much.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Closer to the Spice Girls than what you got back
in the day.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
This is super funny though, because back in the day
we would go on at like eight or nine o'clock,
played for two hours, get off at eleven. We played
some shows recently where we were on at like seven
and we were done by nine. And here's how you
know that we're all getting older because we were like that.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Was really nice, and we did great pieces with the openers,
you know, being bad.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
We let the openers go last and we'll just go
that's all.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Did you guys all ever tour and be on the
same bus?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Yeah, than how you guys were? Okay, we did that too,
which was the best. I loved it. I felt it
was like camp on the road.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
And now you guys again obviously are doing like your
own bussing situation.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
I think for the health, for the health of of everything,
for those long you know, for a short week or two,
it's fine. Like in Europe we're gonna be there for
four weeks. Uh, and you know it's just gonna be
all of us on one bus and that's fine. But
I think you know, here in the States, we do
have the luxury to have a couple of buses. James
will have Hison bus, all of mine and then kenall
Logan are going to share, and.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
You know, you can kind of go back home if
you want to.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
You have two days off, you know, maybe maybe go
to you know, me and James both have our birthdays
on the road, so it's like if we can sneak
off for a day and go to a campsite, it's
kind of fun to do that. And not everybody always
wants to go, so sure, so having that flexibility, you know, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
That's cool.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah, Oh my god, could you imagine being at that
camp site and a tour bus rolls up and you're like, is.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
That carless from Big Every summer that we've been out,
I've gone back to my old summer camp. Have you
really It's it's up in the Poconos and I called,
I'm like, hey, you know what I'm you know, in
town next week.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
We drive the bus in and all the kids love it.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
It's fun. The campers are there.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
So wait, are you summer birthdays then mid July? Mid August?
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Yeah, August?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Where what are you in August?
Speaker 5 (34:18):
August fifteenth?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Okay, I'm the eleventh, so just making sure.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
I'm going to say teeth listen.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Joe Jonas is also on the fifteenth, so you know,
it could have been wow.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Wow when I have the same birthday September sixteenth?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
What birthday Jonas this week? And I bond?
Speaker 8 (34:37):
Does anybody in that family have the July sixteenth? There's
like seven of them, twelve.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Of them exactly.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
I'm sure we'll all find somebody I don't notice that's confident.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
So where uh if they go on your website, where
can they find for all the shows? Because I want
to come. So Brinda and I are coming on.
Speaker 8 (34:52):
One official dot com has all these and all the
new ones will be adding. Our Instagram is great, but
like Big Timber's official has just all the direct Where do.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
You guys live?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (35:03):
Cool?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Are you coming to southern California at all? Can we
come and see it?
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Into it? Which is really exciting, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
That's we were just there for WrestleMania. It's a great place.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Is it true that you walk in with no tickets
and it just scans your face.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
It scans your face and you can buy everything and
like you just walk up and it scans you at
the bar and you just grab the stuff that you want.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
It's all just scanned. It's really cool.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, that's weird, super super cool.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Okay, so Sabena, we gotta go.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Yes, absolutely, that sounds like so much fun. And I
can't wait to see these fans just lose their marbles
over you.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
It'll be so amazing.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I can't let this interview go though without touching at
least on your guys' journeys on Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
I was gonna say the three of us, I know,
I love.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
No, it's that's you would not want to see me
on Dancing with Anything.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Get them on on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
They want to see you. Yeah, no, you really don't.
Dancing on acid. It'll be the closest you get.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
So Garry Bucy was on my season. Okay, if Gary
Busey you can do it.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Well yeah no, that would be rough. I promise you
that would be rough. Yeah, so what is it? What
was that?
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Like Sabrina talks about Dancing with the Stars like it's
one of their favorite things she's ever done in her life.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Why I have to bring it up?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
And if you have bad stories, I don't want to
hear them because nothing will nothing will get anything negative
towards Dancing Stars.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Were the greatest experience.
Speaker 8 (36:23):
I'm sure different experiences, but I look at it as
the most amount of fun that I never want to
have again.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I'm really glad I kids, truly that's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8 (36:32):
I just at that time in my life, it was fun.
It was great, it was exhausting. I'm glad I did it.
I like a competition show, something that's challenging physically, meant
like that, that's so much more fun than just going
on so I've done, you know, unscripted elsewhere, it's like
not as cool. This one's really really rough, Like you
have to put in the work if you want to
have any chance of competing. And I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Who is your partner, Peter murgatroyd.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Oh you got it's so great. I mean, she was
just fantastic.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
I'm a little different.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
I so I got to compete alongside.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
With my wife, whoa which was so my wife competed
the same season, which was awesome because we get to
be together all the time.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
But she wasn't your partner, right they put you with.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
They were competing against each other, which I'm so great.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
It was so fun.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
We cried when we They of course put us both
in the bottom and They're like one of you is
going home, and I'm.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
Like, this is freaking yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
But no, I'd say my experience if they did an
All Star season, I'm like, Dina CAATs call me please.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Yes, I would pay money to be honest, I was,
and I did do an All Star season.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
This would be my third shut up.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Yes no.
Speaker 6 (37:40):
And Sean Johnson's yes, Oh gosh. I just talked to
her about it and she was so. I think I
think an All Star season would be fun because that
first season, when you don't know what it is, it's
so nerve wracking. Every night when those beeps happened and
you're about to dance, your heart is beating. I think
I would go into an All Star season like bring
it on, baby, let's go.
Speaker 8 (37:59):
You do.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Yeah, because you know what to expect, however, I will
tell you up in you know, we all have a
rehearsal day the day before, you know, the day of
the actual filming. Everyone's up there, We're running the whole show,
and we're all up there and I don't remember who
was on the floor, but christially looks over at us
and goes, is anyone else? Asking themselves why the hell
(38:23):
I signed up for this? Again, knowing how bad this was.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Because of the anxiety you have when you're up and look.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Totally you do.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
But but at.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
The same time, like you come in with a like,
let's freaking do this, and so does everyone else.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Dot I bet it's more competitive.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
It was so much more.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Still super friendly, everyone's super excited, but everyone is like
it's almost like they're looking going why am I not
that good?
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Why am I okay? What are we you know?
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Talking to your partner? What can I do to be better?
Like you're everything is just at a higher level. But
it is very fun still, it's it's it's still very intense.
I thought I was going to be like, oh, I
got it, like we know what we're doing now, and
it's like, whoa, it's still so.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
We did something last Christmas, we did uh btr on ice.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
Oh and and we did a concert on ice.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
We all skate.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Oh come, you're all skating?
Speaker 5 (39:22):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (39:23):
And and we literally so so like picture a huge arena,
ice on the floor, kind of like Disney on ice.
There was a stage because at one point we took
our skates off and did a concert. But we hired
pros to basically skate with us and skate around us
and do some stuff. And it kind of reminds me
of Dancing with the Stars because we it kind of
pulled this out of.
Speaker 7 (39:41):
Our element, but it was so much fun.
Speaker 8 (39:43):
In fact, the only person who fell was a professional
dancer was my dance.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
The other fun fact. Accuse me of tripping her. I
watched the tape. I was on a knee. I was
on a knee. Just say no. She was great, They're great. Sorry,
go on.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
The area huge.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
True, that's so sad. Automatically taking the professional no to.
Speaker 7 (40:09):
Say, would you do skating with the Stars?
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Well they did something like that, don't you remember they
did that show? There was an Skating with the Stars
and it was It was terrible that it was not
They were not able to you know, how like there
are ice skating.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
And make it look same as everybody. It's not.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
It's so hard and it was hard because at least
with Dancing with the Stars, I feel like even when
you don't have the best celebrity, the pros are able
to like in a waltz a lot of times, like
a pro dancer will do a scar especially girls.
Speaker 8 (40:50):
Girls. The guys lead you honestly, can just sit there
and hold your form.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
And they will make you. The guys have a way harder.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
They pros have to learn how to back lead you guys,
which is hard. It's also harder.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
You just have to keep taking our shirt sage. That's
the only way that James and I got to the
end everything.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Wait, there's nakedness.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Hopefully that you didn't get naked on the ice too?
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Did you that that would be tough?
Speaker 8 (41:13):
I almost tripped one time and I considered it just
to distract the audience, But no.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
The ice skating show, it just shows you how very
hard it is, and it was hard to like, like
camouflage from what the celebrities look for.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
We did it and we looked amazing.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Okay, I bet you did.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
But to dance question like yeah, but I wouldn't expect
i'd have the results that I had on Dancing with
the Stars in any sort because ice skating is tough,
like tough.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
There is not a professional dancer that could make me
look like I know how to dance.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
I don't care how good they are. Yes it is.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
If they do Drinking with the Stars, I'll win.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I don't know, so nice one hundred percent believe them.
I just thank you, James on my side. This is
from the guy who trips ice skaters. Call it like
I see, it's so to you. We're on the same
pagere I don't gett combat it. I think we should
be partners.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Will partner up for the new Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
That will be fine. You lead me and I'll just
told default.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
Yes absolutely sometimes I love it.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Well, thank you both for joining us so much. We're
going I'm not joking, by the way, we're coming to
please so Sabrina and I are definitely going to be there.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
We can't wait.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Everybody, go to the website and check it out because
the tour is gonna be amazing, and check it out
also in Europe because hopefully I'll be there for one
of those two I my wife and I love it there,
so we're there quite a bit, so it would be
great to see you guys.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Thank you so much for coming on. Break well Break.
I was gonna say break a leg.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I guess you could still say that with singers, probably
not dancers.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I said that this Sabrina once. She's like what, I'm like, Oh,
that's right. You don't say break the legs. Dancers perform, Yes, okay,
twist and.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Ankle, Sabrina, it is.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
I become my little sister.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
I'm aloud completely ignored you so much.
Speaker 5 (43:01):
Luck.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
I hope it's amazing, and I hope it's going to
be incredible, and we'll see you on the road because
we're coming. We get a chance to talk to you
guys after and you guys can tell us all about
it was, because I'm sure it's just going to.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
Be that's the second show, so we'll give you all
the tea.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Yeah, into it, into it a second to last.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Okay, cool, we'll be there.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah, all right, great, Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Bye bye.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
So you can tell just by talking to them how
much fun being on the road would be and how
serious they take it, and you know it's going to
be the greatest thing in the world for their fans,
but it's also just you can tell they.
Speaker 7 (43:37):
Have a blast.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
And that's when you see a band members having that
much fun and you can tell they're not faking it.
You know the show is going to be good because
they're just going to be having so much fun while
they're love.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
That the journey that they've been on.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
I mean again, like knowing what it's like to be
a part of a group and really, like they said,
like you're just kind of employees for part part of it,
and then as you get older and you do more
of them and you start to learn the process and
you start to learn how much like creative control that
you can take on. Like I love that they're having
that journey and this one is like the best of
(44:11):
the best for them so far, you know, and I'm
sure if they continue just going to get better and
I that's just so amazing. I'm so excited for that
and that they've gotten this journey for so long.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Twenty and thirteen was when the show ended.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
I think so. And so they started auditioning in tw.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Twenty five, Like, holy hell, that is so.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
It was a year audition process. That's insane.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
Imagine I mean, I think I would just forget about it.
I would lose all hope, there's.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
But you can.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I mean, that's what I love.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
How he's like when they say we'll call you, it's
like a slow no, which is exactly right.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
If it's not you, it's me, it really is.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Just because every time it's actually you, it's never me.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I'm awesome.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
H thank you everybody for joining us for this park
Opper episode, and seriously go to the website and check
it out. Well, I'm sure we'll put it up on
our Instagram and go check out a concert I'm looking
forward to. We'll have to go to the we will
we'll totally ago. Maybe we could.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Yeah, yeah, that would be good.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
We'll take Jordan, we'll take Sue.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
We'll go and we'll grab some dinner and we'll have
some fun and we'll go see their show.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
It'll be a ton of fun.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
And thank you everybody for joining us on this wonderful,
magical rewind park Copper episode. And remember we don't have
a catchphrase to end an episode. Thanks everybody,
Thank you everybody so much for joining us on this
park hopper episode of Magical Rewind. And this really is
a hopper because we're not only hopping from movies to music,
but we're also hopping networks, which we've never done before.
We're hopping from Disney to Nickelodeon, which is the reverse
of what I did.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I hoped Nickelodeon to Disney.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
But I'm we're going backwards, so I'm.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Into it, opening up another door for us guys here onway.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
You everything we can talk about here.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So we're very excited because this band, I guess we
should say because they're also actors, but this band is
making a comeback and I think going on.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Tour, yes, big tour.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So we are very very excited. We have two of
the members here, so two of the four pretty to
have both James and Carlos from Big Time Rush, so
help us welcome them. Hi, how are you both doing?
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Get out of here, of course doing.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We're good. We're so excited.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
You you're our first ever to jump ship and be
from Nickelodeon. We were strictly Disney, but we were like,
we can't not talk to you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You know what, there's always room for improvement.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
No, okay, we're starting this morning off with some fighting words.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I was saying, this is we normally do Disney and
then go and now we're going to Nickelodeon, which is
the reverse of what I did, because I started on
Nickelodeon and then went to the channel. I did what
I was an old school Nickelodeon. I got slimmed on
Nickelodeon back in the ear. That's how Nickelodeon I was,
Yes see, but like for.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
So, I mean listen, full disclosure a huge fan, like, oh,
thank you, we're talking with you. But what were you
on Nickelodeon.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I was on a show called Don't Just Sit There
for three years where we were like a young Saturday
Night Live. We had special guests and a band and
all that cool kind of stuff.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
So yeah, so is this like before all that?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Oh way before this was in nineteen eighty seven, I
went up and was on the original you Can't Do
That on television in Canada and had the slime.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Drop on me and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, old you were like og og og Nickelodeon. But
we're not here to talk about me. We can if
you'd like. But there's so much going on for you
guys right now, not just what you've been through, but
you've got a whole bunch of new stuff coming up.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I don't even know where to No, let's start at
the beginning, Sabrina.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
We always do that, Start at the beginning.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Let's start at the beginning, big time.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Rush, Can you tell us a little bit about how
you heard about this project? Was this were you singers
that then were also actors? Were you actors that were
also singers? Was this just a regular audition?
Speaker 6 (02:56):
Take us through everything, dude, I feel like every actor
is like, I'll do it.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
I sin, I dance, I juggle.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It's on my resume. It's on my resume.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
Me like back in the day when you would load
up your resume and you're like, I can juggle, I
can do.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
This horseback ride.
Speaker 8 (03:12):
Sure, yeah, right, exactly, Yeah, I could do any accent
in the world.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It just had all dialects and it's okay, that's fine, But.
Speaker 8 (03:21):
It was for us, it was literally an audition. It
was a pretty crazy process. I know, every screen test
and you know, look to get on any TV show
is not an easy feat and often a crazy process,
but this one in particular was two years where we
all came in at different times. Logan and I were
in the first round of auditions.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
They ever did.
Speaker 8 (03:41):
They took thousands of people from across the country, blew
us in for that one, and I think the next
two or three and hey, can you sing?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Catch you with a singing coach? Can you dance? Get
you the dancing coach? Can you act?
Speaker 8 (03:52):
They'd put us together in pairs of four, and we
did a whole screen test, then they recast, did it again,
then they recast.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Carlos, you're in the second or third, third round of that.
Speaker 8 (04:01):
Yeah, and then they picked four of us that didn't
include Kendall. We shot a whole million dollar pilot without
Kendle with another chapter, and then they.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Said, yeah, it's good, but it could be better. Let's
recast again.
Speaker 8 (04:13):
Oh oh, I mean, I'll say all that to say that,
you know, we were hopeful after two years and four
rounds of screens ask that this would work, and it
could have not worked, but luckily it turned out to
be the biggest live action premiere in the history of Nickelodeon.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
And I was back when people watched TV. I mean
remember that, you guys. I mean, like y'all were you
guys were in the prime of when kids actually tuned in.
But for us, I think we got something like fourteen
million kids just huge watching watching the premiere. Now you're
lucky to get.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Half a million. That's terrible.
Speaker 8 (04:44):
That's like, but you do a good TikTok and you
get twenty million nights well, because that's the attention span
now is like you got fifteen seconds entertained me.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh man.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So okay, so a two year kind of process the
entire time going through. Were are you making friends? I
mean you said the James that you were there from
the beginning? So were you making friends with people where
it's like we're going to do this show together and
then they're gone and it's like, Okay, I guess we're
going to go.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
To the next round.
Speaker 8 (05:12):
There are a couple people that I keep in touch
with from then, So I don't want to say that
I wasn't making friends, but I wasn't there to make friends, right,
you know, we.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Were there at audition like this was a life opportunity.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
So you're cool with everyone, but it's like the industry
auditioning for yourself, so perhaps other people had to have
different perspectives on it.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
But man, I mean we showed up and we're ready
to work. Now.
Speaker 8 (05:33):
As it got further along, I think that changed a
little bit. Like when there's you know, Logan and Carlos
and the other guy were like, hey, this works pretty well.
We felt it too, right, We're like, hey, something is working.
And clearly, you know, three fourths of that worked well together.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And so by the time.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
That Kendall came, he actually came back to the audition
and he had known Logan. So there's a couple of
little moments of I don't know if it's serendipity or
coincidence or familiarity that we always want.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Like we really like this pod, can we stick with
this one?
Speaker 5 (06:02):
You know?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So we did fight for it eventually.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
The beginning, you know, you were there just like, hey,
tell me where you want me to go? You need
me to dancing, like I want to get the jokes.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
How old were you guys?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Oh, what was it like? Eighteen ninths?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Okay, so what was your guys' life?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Obviously you guys were you know, in the in the business,
auditioning all the time. What was your kind of regular
life before this band finally got the the final mold
together and the magic happened.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
So I I had I had just done a a
reality show called Making Manudo.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
They were trying to they were trying to remake Manudo.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Oh my gosh, I remember this.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
It was called like Road to Manudo and then Making Manudo.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
But we ended up in a house or like a
hotel in Miami for a whole summer, you know, dancing
and singing and like you're doing the thing. And I
got like seventh, you know, like I was like almost
was seventh or eighth. I was like almost almost of
the five. And I was really like bitter about the
whole thing.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
So I was like, ah, screwboy bands. I'll never do boy.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
Bands again, like a really, really obnoxious seventeen year old,
just like and then I get this audition. We go
through the whole process and like James said, like we
we we did a pilot, but there was a year
between the pilot and shooting again, so we all basically
like no one.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Told us who they were recasting. So I go through all.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
This you know, trauma of this boy bed thing. I
booked this thing and then it's like, cool, we'll call you.
And then all we heard in the middle of this
year was they're recasting someone.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
They didn't tell us.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It's just a slow no y. So you weren't during
the year you were. It wasn't like you were rehearsing
and getting.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
To know you listen. I would put off.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
I would literally I went to the Boston Conservatory for
a year, so I was like, I'm going to Broadway,
but I still have to do all my regular classes.
So I would put off doing like, you know, my essays,
and I'd be like, dude, I just booked a TV.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
Show and they're gonna call me any minute, and.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
I'm gonna be and let me tell you.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
I finished the entire freshman year like but with that mentality,
and then it'd be like the last week and I
have to do all my paperwork and everything, but they
called us, I think James what it was like July
July of that next summer, so for me, right before
going in for sophomore year, and they're like, hey, you're
not the one that we're recasting, where I was just like,
(08:32):
oh crap.
Speaker 8 (08:35):
One of the executives, Paula, who was the scariest one
on the board then and now.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
She's like, you know, we love her. She we love her,
She's like family.
Speaker 8 (08:44):
I mean, surely we did become, you know, like family
with a lot of the people on our set. I
got to say we had a great experience overall, but
but objectively. And I've told her this and she didn't
bat an eye.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I'm like, you're the scariest lady I've ever met.
Speaker 8 (08:57):
We were up there and you would just scare not
you know, unemotional, and just be like okay, thanks and
like everyone else be smiling and happy and you weren't.
And she'd go, I know, I'm good at my job.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
It's not the job, but.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Anyways, I love her.
Speaker 8 (09:12):
She at one point casually was like, oh yeah, you
had it since round one, And I was.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Like, what you couldn't have told ball that to me?
All times? I thought I had a job and lost
a job. I had a job lost a job.
Speaker 8 (09:24):
So you know, we can laugh about it now, right,
But you know, I was sleeping on couches to be
in LA.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I was driving up from sant I was just gonna
ask if this was in LA. So this was in
Los Angeles by this poor yeah.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
Okay, And it was at the point where I'm like, well,
it's cost me so much in gas to get up here, Like, honestly,
I think i'd save money if I just got a
crappy apartment.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I rented a room and I literally did that at seventeen.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
So I didn't go back and forth so much, and
I was auditioning for other projects and there was one
that came along. In fact, it was a Disney movie.
I forget what it was. They came wrong, and I
went to producers and I told my agents basically tell
them I'm doing this.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I need to work.
Speaker 8 (10:02):
And I remember it was that, I swear to god
it was that same day or that same week the
contract came through, Like, actually, we're ready to.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Go with you guys.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
That's a nice you know, anything.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
To do with it.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
But I'm distinctly remembering like I'm kind of stuck in
limbo with this thing, and like, I want to start
my career, so you know, maybe I can thank Disney
for getting me close to something else and there you go, Hey,
nothing will get you signed to one of those companies,
like the other company being interested in that, right, Hey,
you really.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You can't remember what Disney movie that was?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Was it a dcon?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Truly?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
For the channel?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Sabrina's not gonna be able to write it.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
I gotta know, I can't remember like the lines in
my head of like what we're doing in walking it.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Okay, it might have been a Xeno.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
No, I don't know, it was way before.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
But there's like four xenos.
Speaker 8 (10:55):
This is gonna drive you guys crazy, And I promise
you I'm never gonna think about this again for different people.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
We get it, we get it.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Oh my, by the way, that same crappy apartment you
rent it is now eleven thousand dollars a month and
at least.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And they haven't renovated. No, it's been exactly the same.
The cost of living in la is crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So you finally they put they put you guys together
and you come onto the set the first day you're
all together.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Did the music everything?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Did it all just click right away? Or was this
a real growth process?
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I mean, look it's no, it's no.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Uh, it's we were trying to mimic the hand of
Montana success. I mean, Nickelodeon was like, look look at
Hannah Montana, how do you do it?
Speaker 5 (11:45):
With boys.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Jonas had just had a TV show called Jonas, and
it was like, how do we do this?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
They thought they came out. I thought their show came
after ours, did it? I feel like it was then
it was a band already.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
But anyways, it was very similar at the time. We
just played to show them. By the way, super great, amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
But we're not really brothers. A lot of people don't
know that.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
They're just read it exactly.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
You see he's got the mustache, you see.
Speaker 8 (12:12):
James, we're trying to match. I was just outside, get
some son, like we're gonna get there.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yeah, but we we.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
We came in and they had a bunch of music
for us, so like there, their idea was, let's hire
and pay whatever it costs for the biggest producers out there.
I mean, we had a song with Desmond Child's, uh,
Kevin Rudolph, like these huge people. But at the end
of the day, it didn't feel like ours. It just
kind of felt like, here's the song. Sing it, Candle,
(12:39):
you sing this, James, you sing this, Carlos Logan boom
bam boom. And that first season, look, it worked, it
was great, but I think the four of us we
really had a passion for writing music, and it kind
of took everybody a little bit off guard because it
was like, oh, you guys actually want to write stuff,
like yeah, set up sessions, put us with good producers,
and that second and third album we started writing and
did most of the music, and then our new was
(13:00):
in the episode and it kind of became this thing.
And I think that's what ultimately led to our success.
I feel like, if we had just let them send
us songs and we cut it and we become this
cookie cutter thing, but we didn't want that, and I
think they didn't expect it.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
But it was good for everybody. But it also took
us to a different level.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Which you know, has had its it's not issues, but
had its crazy time.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
And then we decided we wanted to have less time. Basically, yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 8 (13:25):
I actually and we had We had a very successful
an R. We first started this a guy named Jay
Landers sold one hundred million records. I think Jay, oh yeah,
it was our original A and R. And his assistant was
Maria Egan. He has had a tremendous success on her
own since then, but she was just working for Jay
(13:46):
at the time and she kind of took over and
they had a very different idea of how the band
should go. But Jay always said, and I honestly think
he was right at the time, that if he we
just let him and you know, Sony Columbia go and
find the biggest songs and not an anything to do
with the writing, that the project.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Would have been bigger.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
And you know what, I think that's actually true at
that time, at the beginning.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
But to Carlos's point, I don't think.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
We would have ever had an opportunity to come back
and build the band up like we have because we
actually did create what the band was. It was authentically us,
from starting from learning how to write, then getting pretty
good to learning how to put on a show. So
now dare I say we play with the best of them.
We're damn good at that, and we're proud.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
To say it. We've done you know, thousands of shows
at this point.
Speaker 8 (14:29):
Probably, And I think that led to the future that
none of us could have predicted, which is we took
a big break. They let the brand go dormant, they
didn't really service it. Then the Spotify was hacked. When
we came back in and said.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Luigi had it so seriously and he was promoting his
own music on our spotify.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Oh my god, yeah, we probably should hire him.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
We've joked about it, but you know, but you know,
to close the loop on this, you know, when we
brought it back, we had no concept of whether it
would work or not, nor could we predict it to be
bigger now than it was then. And by just about
any metric, it is. And it's because we actually are
a band. Yeah, because we actually went figured it out
and now this is round two of doing it.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So yeah, it's pretty wilda I think there is.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
That's so much to say about how you guys took
it from Like you said, what could have been cookie cutter,
but instead.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You molded it.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
You molded who each not character, but each bandmate was
like what were their best you know, what they brought
to the band. And I think fans, especially during the
time you guys came out, had already seen so many
variations of it. They saw even with Miley, Miley wanted
to take more control of her career and starting to
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write and being a part of that process. And so
if you hadn't done that, they really wouldn't have bought
into it. Instead, they bought into what you guys really
brought from your heart and who you guys were as
bandmates to each other.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
And that's like amazing and brilliant. By the way, good
job guys.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
That was like pretty I.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Bet you if we tried to do that same if
somebody tried to do that same exact formula again, these
create these execs are smart enough now to not let
people do.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Do what we did.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
We were so lucky at the time that it was
kind of new and it was like, okay, well let
them do this and let them explore. Like I constantly
have to remind ourselves, like back then, we literally worked
for them no matter what, Like we were still an
employee of whatever it.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
Was the right they owned everything, and you know, we
weren't getting paid a percentage of the gross, like we
had our weekly salary, we went on tour, had our
weekly salary and all this stuff.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
To come now ten fifteen years later and here we
are and now we run the show. It's really weird
because I think about, hey, how much money those guys
made back then and it was way different, but be like,
nobody's going to get that opportunity again.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
And we were so lucky and we were so lucky.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, you find that with everything.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I mean even nowadays you find something as small as well,
I say small and with a capital or small ass
podcasting where if you do a show, you sign a contract.
Now where it's like, oh, if you ever do a
podcast based on this show, we get x them. I
mean it's things they weren't expecting to happen. Now somebody
does it. They're successful at it. Oh we need a
piece of that as well. It's just the normal way
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of the business. But you're talking about your fans. So
I'm curious. You said you had the biggest premiere for
a live action show in Nickelodeon history.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Huge.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
How does your life change after that show comes out?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
The girls just start coming, man.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I bet they were flocking like Sae.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
In case they were already there. So that's.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
I was a Latino boy from South Florida.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
This was like because, like James, it was right around Thanksgiving,
right when we first yeah, like first premiere something.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I was home.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
I was home and my mom threw a party in
all my high schoo friends came and everyone was just like,
oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
And I was like, this is cool.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
But outside of that. Like we've we've talked about this
a few times over the years. We didn't fully.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
Grass the size of the situation or how life had
changed that much because we were too busy, like ye
straight up, yeah, okay, we'd hear these numbers like biggest premiere,
and then we go back to filming the show, you know,
and we hear you know, this thing, and we'd play
our show then go back.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
We wouldn't, you know.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
We didn't have days off for years at a time,
and we learned, oh, we could ask for Sunday off,
and we eventually found a little bit more of a balance.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
But truthfully, we also needed that big break after seven
years of doing this, whatever the time frame was.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
And again I look at all this as you know,
a bit of God's plan blessing into skies. We were
here because of that past, good and bad, and so
they're not complaining about it, but we didn't fully recognize
the size of it, probably well maybe at least before
our first show. Like actors get stopped in the street
in a while, when musicians show up, I have ten
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twenty thousand people screaming at them. Yeah, that is a
seismic shift of like our first show was not that many.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
You know, I was gonna I was gonna ask you
what were your first shows like and how did they build?
Like I know, with us, two different things obviously the
size of fans, but also the budget. Like Disney with
the Cheetah Girls, we went on a first like Christmas tour.
We put out a Christmas album and our set broke
on the way to the first show because it was
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so it was like so bad and I mean again,
we had the best time.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Didn't care.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
They fixed it. We gotta, we got a thing whatever.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
But it went from that to them like I think
of what we had on our third, our third tour,
and it was like, you know, because of the success,
Like what was that like for you guys? Did you
guys start How small did it start for your first
couple of shows? Cause those are fun too to think about.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Well, our first ever, which so so it's a two
part question. So our first ever was not a small show.
They did a special in the middle of Times Square.
They spent a million dollars built of stage and and.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
We were like it was it was nuts And I
watch it.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Back now and I'm like, dang, we sucked. Like that
was terrible, not a great first show. But our first
like real show was a radio show that we headlined
in Henderson, Nevada. And it was so like, we're headlining
this radio show. We only knew fifteen minutes of music.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It was four or songs, it was. It was that's
all we have.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
And I remember, like we were so fun, we were
so nervous, and we go out and we're in Henderson, Nevada.
We're like, freak, our first big show. We do our
fifteen minutes and leave and everyone's.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Like that's it, and we're like, we.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Don't have anything going. We don't know anything. You don't know.
We never knew we needed it all.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
So it was in charge of you.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Who did you guys have then, because I feel like
whoever was in charge should have said, like, let's let's
do in between these two songs we're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
We're gonna fill it, like.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
We don't have that manager anymore.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Okay, start smart, Yeah, okay, okay, all right, I get
it out.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Okay we we we didn't again, like you just go
back to like we didn't really have control over it,
and no one really knew what this was. Like Nickelodeon
had never done this, so they were like they were
going out trying to hire the best people Sony Columbia,
help us out this and that.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
So everybody learned as we went pigs.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Yeah, and there's there's one summer that I'll never forget
is James and I don't remember. It was our second
or third big tour, but we had started like seeing
how big this thing was, and we were working. I
mean one summer we did seventy four seventy five shows.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Like back to back to back to back.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
We don't like, I mean crazy, it was crazy.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
It was crazy.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
I mean five six shows in a row. I think
we did seven in a row or eight in a row. Yeah, day,
which we just won't we won't do to our bodies anymore.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
No, yeah, wouldn't that just shred your voice?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
But I'm everything.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Were twenty one years old, so they're like screw it,
and we were here, top of our lives.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
But but I remember this was the tour that we
kind of made a little stink.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
It was a little to little tea and we said, hey,
we would like to participate in more than just these
like weekly salaries, like we're seeing this and they were like, Okay,
no problem.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
So we did this split with them, but this was
so fast.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
We're like, why did we asked for this before?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah, but like I'm amazed it took you guys this long.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Of course you can learn.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Here's here's where we screwed up.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
This was the tour that they were like, fine, since
we're all, you know, three way partners on this Nickelodeon
Columbia and you guys, what do.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
You guys want on the show?
Speaker 7 (22:36):
We're like, we want this, we want to lift, we
want Pyro, we want.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
This, and they were like, no problem.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
And then at the end of the tour when it
came time to get our check, I was like, we
did one.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Hundred show, where's the money?
Speaker 7 (22:46):
And they were like, oh, they took it out of
years sent it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Got gross and some parties got there.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
We don't understand the different right at twenty one, you
didn't understand how that worked.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
But we learned.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
So, I mean, it sucked, but it was such a
blessing to like, actually do what we love make make
could still make good money, but learn how this business
works because people are getting to take advantage.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Of the left.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
You know, I love you brought that up because so
many people don't understand out there, like when bands go
out and like how you can have a band that's
just epic, but then things like that happen and they
end up the back end. Nobody really really realizes what
the back end ends up being for bands and why it.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
Yeah, really, label deals and label advanced are extremely complicated.
Jelly Roll was talking about this recently and he broke
it down pretty simply, and it's like, let's say that
you have a seventy thirty splay, which is actually not
that bad these days, it's more like eighty twenty for
a lot of artists. The label called a million bucks
for easy math, they advanced you million bucks. They they
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don't recoup the first million dollars. They keep seventy percent
of it and only count your thirty percent against recouping it.
So the basic math there is you have to make
three point three million dollars that you don't see that
before you recoup your million. And what happens along the
way is you go, actually, I need fifty grand for
this video, we need half a million for this tour,
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and they go, no problem.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, because they're making the same difference on everything.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
So I mean, like, oh, you want to go on
that red carpet, cool, no problem. You want a stylist,
you want to limit, you want.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
There are definitely companies that are better than others and
people more aware of it than so I'm certainly not
saying a blanket statement that they're all bad. It's something
that if you don't ask, they're probably not going to
tell you.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
It's it's maybe it's business. Maybe it's just business.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
But I love that there are more people talking about
it and more education out there, because if you understand
the deal you do and they give you an opportunity
and they put up a ton of money and it
starts your career, than fantastic and that is a great
way to go. Sometimes you need to pay your dues
to launch this, which we very much did.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, well, I mean it's yeah, it's it's one of
those things where you look at the progression of child
actors and musicians and everything and you go back. I mean,
the dog that played Toto made more money than Judy
Garland did when they were doing That's an actual, So
it's so it's one of those things where you're you're
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so when especially when you're a kid, you're so happy
to be working. Oh my god, I'm getting this job.
I get to be on Nickelodeon, I get to be
on Disney. That that stuff doesn't matter. And then when
you start to grow up a little bit and you're like, wait.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
Well, what they say is because you know, they send
out these contracts and they're like, look, you're seventeen years old,
you're sixteen, nineteen whatever.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
There are so many of you out there.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Who will who will take exactly what's written right here exactly.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Take it or leave it.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
But you're lucky to be here, kid, You're lucky to
be you know what.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Like James said, you got to pay your dues, so
you signed that and you're like, all right, cool, how long?
Speaker 8 (25:40):
Yeah, you know, flip side, flip side. With success, all
parties should reap the benefits of that. Yeah, we go
back to them second, third season, fourth season. Look was
it fair in terms of absolutely probably not. However we
received more. You know, and again if you ask when
you work with it in your teammate and you're putting
in it's super successful. Contracts are made to be revised.
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In fact, contracts be broken to some degree, so you know,
end of the day, it was still an amazing opportunity.
It started this whole thing and silver lining the blessing
in the skies here is they did We're still going,
you know, one hundred million dollars or something that we
never could have put into this. That launched something that
now we've been able to carry on and have eggs exactly.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
I mean, it definitely gave you opportunities and open doors
that you guys wouldn't have been able to do on
your own.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
So you have to.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
And they're fun companies to work people Forget working for Nickelodeon,
working for Disney, you have fun, you have a good name,
I'm working for These are.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Living the dream you've grown up wanting to do this.
So although yes, is.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
It excruciatingly exhausting sometimes absolutely, but you're literally singing in
front of fans that know every single word. They've watched
every single episode, they can repeat the episode. They know
what your favorite ice cream is like, they show up
with the cookies that you put on your favorite I mean,
the fans are amazing, they are really honestly what makes
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all of that hard work feel like it disappears because
it's so fun and the kids out there are just
eating it up.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
And they love you and you love doing it for them,
So it's.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Gosh, I love your positivity. Let's go.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
I'm so stoked that you guys are getting a chance
to go back out there.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
And now that's what I want to ask about. What's
what now?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
How did what sparked the new tour? What's sparked coming back?
Are there plans to do a new show or a movie?
Can you tell us anything? Everybody's excited.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
I mean, look, we we've been talking about it for
a long time and then we've done.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
This will be our third summer out uh and and
this I mean.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
Europe, right, yeah, true, this will be our biggest I think,
our biggest tour that we've ever done. We're really going
back to the nostalgia of the TV show Gustavo Rock
played by Stephen Gramer Glickman and Caitlin Tarver who played Joe.
They're all gonna come on the road with us, and
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we've never done that. I mean, when I say that,
Steven's been for this moment for the last fifteen years,
like we're not even paying him, He's doing it for free.
I'm kidding, but.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Totally untrue.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
It's gonna be fun yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I mean what sparked this?
Speaker 8 (28:19):
I mean we just you know, wanted to get back together,
and then the fans just showed us how much that
they love the fact that we are and so so
long as they want us to keep making music and
going out there, we just feel grateful to be able
to do it.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Did you stay close?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Sorry, I was just gonna ask in the in the meantime,
did you stay close between when the show ended and
coming back on tour now where we were all still
in each other's lives and we.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Already kind of drift like you normally do, we.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
All just wanted to do other things. We all get
together the space and the breath that we needed. You know,
everybody went off and did their own movies or music
or both. Uh, started families. But when we came back together,
it was I think with even more experience and more
respect in many ways that.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
We could have possibly had. And we were seventeen to
twenty three or whatever, that window.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Was well, and now and now we're running a business
together versus before we were just employees.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
Like I think there's just a different respect for the
whole thing.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
And it's like, look, we want to have fun, we
want to make money and make memories.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
So how do we do all of that together? And
so far, so good.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, it's different when it's your responsibility. All of a sudden,
it's like.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Do we need the Piro?
Speaker 8 (29:23):
I can tell you we definitely won't have Pyro. We
have for toasters, which makes me sad. But you know
many people you need to run a single toaster.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Well, I mean you have to build your own stage.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
You literally have to build your own It's we've learned
how expensive it is to tour.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
I mean just my my my family comes with us.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
So I got all my kids, I got the dog,
and we have our own bus and my kids love
it and and it.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
You know, it's.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
Expensive just to rent a bus for two months.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
So it's like you have to factor all these costs
in and then go, okay, well are we gonna shoot
that Pyro?
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Are we gonna get the screen?
Speaker 6 (29:58):
And you know, us, us being the business owners, now
it's really put us in the you know, in this
position of like how do we give the best show
to the fans, but also but also like make it
profitable And that's really tough nowadays.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
In the show it's so tough.
Speaker 8 (30:12):
To piggyback that you know, we're going around the world
and so when you get into customizations, it costs more
money but also takes more time. And we are we
are adding more shows by the way. We can't announce
where yet, but they're very much in the works several
more countries. And in order to play the same show,
going to a set, for example, that we can recreate
in each country.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Is very important.
Speaker 8 (30:33):
So there's interesting things we've learned along the way to
make it fun and make the fan experience way better
everywhere we go.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Wow, I wanted to ask.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
So I've got a chance to go to the Spice
Girls tour when they and it was their twenty year
or something, and they just it was the first time
they came back and did a reunion door and I
got to go and stage was so different. You know,
I had been doing The Cheetah Girls in an arena,
you kind of know the thing. They had separate rooms
for like a playroom for the kids.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
So it was like way.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
More like family oriented versus like ours. There was like,
you know, a bar for the roadies were like set
up versus like that room was designated as like a playroom,
Like what's that looking like different than when you guys
toured when you were younger. What's the what's the road
like different?
Speaker 5 (31:25):
It's a mixture. It's a mixture.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
I mean, we're we're all pretty health conscious, so like,
you know, for us, it's not really crazy food. I mean,
you know James, James kind of leads all the workouts
for everybody, and we make it a point to go
to the gym for a couple hours every single day.
And you know, James has a dog. I got my
kids and my dog. So we're playing on the lawn
getting sun. I feel like back in the day, it
was just.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Like, yeah, we're in Minnesota, let's go right.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
Yeah, I'm actually really excited for this tour. I'm taking
a complete year off of drinking. I mean, I haven't
really done it much in the last few years. But
there's habits you build before, Like you know, you're twenty
one years old, You're can go play a show and
so many cheers as you and you have a shot
for the thing. You kind of sure things that just
you know, we're in our thirties now. We want to
put on the best show every night, and more important,
like we want to feel good we have other responsibilities.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Like Carlos and I love.
Speaker 8 (32:15):
Waking up early, love going and getting our workouts. You know,
some of the guys come, I mean Logan's comes pretty often,
but Carlos is very dedicated. I enjoy a different side
of life and a different side of touring now, so much.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Closer to the Spice Girls than what you got back
in the day.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
This is super funny though, because back in the day
we would go on at like eight or nine o'clock,
played for two hours, get off at eleven. We played
some shows recently where we were on at like seven
and we were done by nine. And here's how you
know that we're all getting older because we were like that.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Was really nice, and we did great pieces with the openers,
you know, being bad.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
We let the openers go last and we'll just go
that's all.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Did you guys all ever tour and be on the
same bus?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Yeah, than how you guys were? Okay, we did that too,
which was the best. I loved it. I felt it
was like camp on the road.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
And now you guys again obviously are doing like your
own bussing situation.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
I think for the health, for the health of of everything,
for those long you know, for a short week or two,
it's fine. Like in Europe we're gonna be there for
four weeks. Uh, and you know it's just gonna be
all of us on one bus and that's fine. But
I think you know, here in the States, we do
have the luxury to have a couple of buses. James
will have Hison bus, all of mine and then kenall
Logan are going to share, and.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
You know, you can kind of go back home if
you want to.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
You have two days off, you know, maybe maybe go
to you know, me and James both have our birthdays
on the road, so it's like if we can sneak
off for a day and go to a campsite, it's
kind of fun to do that. And not everybody always
wants to go, so sure, so having that flexibility, you know, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
That's cool.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah, Oh my god, could you imagine being at that
camp site and a tour bus rolls up and you're like, is.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
That carless from Big Every summer that we've been out,
I've gone back to my old summer camp. Have you
really It's it's up in the Poconos and I called,
I'm like, hey, you know what I'm you know, in
town next week.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
We drive the bus in and all the kids love it.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
It's fun. The campers are there.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
So wait, are you summer birthdays then mid July? Mid August?
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Yeah, August?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Where what are you in August?
Speaker 5 (34:18):
August fifteenth?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Okay, I'm the eleventh, so just making sure.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
I'm going to say teeth listen.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Joe Jonas is also on the fifteenth, so you know,
it could have been wow.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Wow when I have the same birthday September sixteenth?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
What birthday Jonas this week? And I bond?
Speaker 8 (34:37):
Does anybody in that family have the July sixteenth? There's
like seven of them, twelve.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Of them exactly.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
I'm sure we'll all find somebody I don't notice that's confident.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
So where uh if they go on your website, where
can they find for all the shows? Because I want
to come. So Brinda and I are coming on.
Speaker 8 (34:52):
One official dot com has all these and all the
new ones will be adding. Our Instagram is great, but
like Big Timber's official has just all the direct Where do.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
You guys live?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (35:03):
Cool?
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Are you coming to southern California at all? Can we
come and see it?
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Into it? Which is really exciting, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
That's we were just there for WrestleMania. It's a great place.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Is it true that you walk in with no tickets
and it just scans your face.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
It scans your face and you can buy everything and
like you just walk up and it scans you at
the bar and you just grab the stuff that you want.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
It's all just scanned. It's really cool.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, that's weird, super super cool.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Okay, so Sabena, we gotta go.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Yes, absolutely, that sounds like so much fun. And I
can't wait to see these fans just lose their marbles
over you.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
It'll be so amazing.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I can't let this interview go though without touching at
least on your guys' journeys on Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
I was gonna say the three of us, I know,
I love.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
No, it's that's you would not want to see me
on Dancing with Anything.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Get them on on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
They want to see you. Yeah, no, you really don't.
Dancing on acid. It'll be the closest you get.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
So Garry Bucy was on my season. Okay, if Gary
Busey you can do it.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Well yeah no, that would be rough. I promise you
that would be rough. Yeah, so what is it? What
was that?
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Like Sabrina talks about Dancing with the Stars like it's
one of their favorite things she's ever done in her life.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Why I have to bring it up?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
And if you have bad stories, I don't want to
hear them because nothing will nothing will get anything negative
towards Dancing Stars.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Were the greatest experience.
Speaker 8 (36:23):
I'm sure different experiences, but I look at it as
the most amount of fun that I never want to
have again.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I'm really glad I kids, truly that's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8 (36:32):
I just at that time in my life, it was fun.
It was great, it was exhausting. I'm glad I did it.
I like a competition show, something that's challenging physically, meant
like that, that's so much more fun than just going
on so I've done, you know, unscripted elsewhere, it's like
not as cool. This one's really really rough, Like you
have to put in the work if you want to
have any chance of competing. And I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Who is your partner, Peter murgatroyd.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Oh you got it's so great. I mean, she was
just fantastic.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
I'm a little different.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
I so I got to compete alongside.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
With my wife, whoa which was so my wife competed
the same season, which was awesome because we get to
be together all the time.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
But she wasn't your partner, right they put you with.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
They were competing against each other, which I'm so great.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
It was so fun.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
We cried when we They of course put us both
in the bottom and They're like one of you is
going home, and I'm.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
Like, this is freaking yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
But no, I'd say my experience if they did an
All Star season, I'm like, Dina CAATs call me please.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Yes, I would pay money to be honest, I was,
and I did do an All Star season.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
This would be my third shut up.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Yes no.
Speaker 6 (37:40):
And Sean Johnson's yes, Oh gosh. I just talked to
her about it and she was so. I think I
think an All Star season would be fun because that
first season, when you don't know what it is, it's
so nerve wracking. Every night when those beeps happened and
you're about to dance, your heart is beating. I think
I would go into an All Star season like bring
it on, baby, let's go.
Speaker 8 (37:59):
You do.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Yeah, because you know what to expect, however, I will
tell you up in you know, we all have a
rehearsal day the day before, you know, the day of
the actual filming. Everyone's up there, We're running the whole show,
and we're all up there and I don't remember who
was on the floor, but christially looks over at us
and goes, is anyone else? Asking themselves why the hell
(38:23):
I signed up for this? Again, knowing how bad this was.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Because of the anxiety you have when you're up and look.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Totally you do.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
But but at.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
The same time, like you come in with a like,
let's freaking do this, and so does everyone else.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Dot I bet it's more competitive.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
It was so much more.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Still super friendly, everyone's super excited, but everyone is like
it's almost like they're looking going why am I not
that good?
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Why am I okay? What are we you know?
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Talking to your partner? What can I do to be better?
Like you're everything is just at a higher level. But
it is very fun still, it's it's it's still very intense.
I thought I was going to be like, oh, I
got it, like we know what we're doing now, and
it's like, whoa, it's still so.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
We did something last Christmas, we did uh btr on ice.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
Oh and and we did a concert on ice.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
We all skate.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Oh come, you're all skating?
Speaker 5 (39:22):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (39:23):
And and we literally so so like picture a huge arena,
ice on the floor, kind of like Disney on ice.
There was a stage because at one point we took
our skates off and did a concert. But we hired
pros to basically skate with us and skate around us
and do some stuff. And it kind of reminds me
of Dancing with the Stars because we it kind of
pulled this out of.
Speaker 7 (39:41):
Our element, but it was so much fun.
Speaker 8 (39:43):
In fact, the only person who fell was a professional
dancer was my dance.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
The other fun fact. Accuse me of tripping her. I
watched the tape. I was on a knee. I was
on a knee. Just say no. She was great, They're great. Sorry,
go on.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
The area huge.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
True, that's so sad. Automatically taking the professional no to.
Speaker 7 (40:09):
Say, would you do skating with the Stars?
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Well they did something like that, don't you remember they
did that show? There was an Skating with the Stars
and it was It was terrible that it was not
They were not able to you know, how like there
are ice skating.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
And make it look same as everybody. It's not.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
It's so hard and it was hard because at least
with Dancing with the Stars, I feel like even when
you don't have the best celebrity, the pros are able
to like in a waltz a lot of times, like
a pro dancer will do a scar especially girls.
Speaker 8 (40:50):
Girls. The guys lead you honestly, can just sit there
and hold your form.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
And they will make you. The guys have a way harder.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
They pros have to learn how to back lead you guys,
which is hard. It's also harder.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
You just have to keep taking our shirt sage. That's
the only way that James and I got to the
end everything.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Wait, there's nakedness.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Hopefully that you didn't get naked on the ice too?
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Did you that that would be tough?
Speaker 8 (41:13):
I almost tripped one time and I considered it just
to distract the audience, But no.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
The ice skating show, it just shows you how very
hard it is, and it was hard to like, like
camouflage from what the celebrities look for.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
We did it and we looked amazing.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Okay, I bet you did.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
But to dance question like yeah, but I wouldn't expect
i'd have the results that I had on Dancing with
the Stars in any sort because ice skating is tough,
like tough.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
There is not a professional dancer that could make me
look like I know how to dance.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
I don't care how good they are. Yes it is.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
If they do Drinking with the Stars, I'll win.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I don't know, so nice one hundred percent believe them.
I just thank you, James on my side. This is
from the guy who trips ice skaters. Call it like
I see, it's so to you. We're on the same
pagere I don't gett combat it. I think we should
be partners.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Will partner up for the new Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
That will be fine. You lead me and I'll just
told default.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
Yes absolutely sometimes I love it.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Well, thank you both for joining us so much. We're
going I'm not joking, by the way, we're coming to
please so Sabrina and I are definitely going to be there.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
We can't wait.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Everybody, go to the website and check it out because
the tour is gonna be amazing, and check it out
also in Europe because hopefully I'll be there for one
of those two I my wife and I love it there,
so we're there quite a bit, so it would be
great to see you guys.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Thank you so much for coming on. Break well Break.
I was gonna say break a leg.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I guess you could still say that with singers, probably
not dancers.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I said that this Sabrina once. She's like what, I'm like, Oh,
that's right. You don't say break the legs. Dancers perform, Yes, okay,
twist and.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Ankle, Sabrina, it is.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
I become my little sister.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
I'm aloud completely ignored you so much.
Speaker 5 (43:01):
Luck.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
I hope it's amazing, and I hope it's going to
be incredible, and we'll see you on the road because
we're coming. We get a chance to talk to you
guys after and you guys can tell us all about
it was, because I'm sure it's just going to.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
Be that's the second show, so we'll give you all
the tea.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Yeah, into it, into it a second to last.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Okay, cool, we'll be there.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah, all right, great, Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Bye bye.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
So you can tell just by talking to them how
much fun being on the road would be and how
serious they take it, and you know it's going to
be the greatest thing in the world for their fans,
but it's also just you can tell they.
Speaker 7 (43:37):
Have a blast.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
And that's when you see a band members having that
much fun and you can tell they're not faking it.
You know the show is going to be good because
they're just going to be having so much fun while
they're love.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
That the journey that they've been on.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
I mean again, like knowing what it's like to be
a part of a group and really, like they said,
like you're just kind of employees for part part of it,
and then as you get older and you do more
of them and you start to learn the process and
you start to learn how much like creative control that
you can take on. Like I love that they're having
that journey and this one is like the best of
(44:11):
the best for them so far, you know, and I'm
sure if they continue just going to get better and
I that's just so amazing. I'm so excited for that
and that they've gotten this journey for so long.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Twenty and thirteen was when the show ended.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
I think so. And so they started auditioning in tw.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Twenty five, Like, holy hell, that is so.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
It was a year audition process. That's insane.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
Imagine I mean, I think I would just forget about it.
I would lose all hope, there's.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
But you can.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I mean, that's what I love.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
How he's like when they say we'll call you, it's
like a slow no, which is exactly right.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
If it's not you, it's me, it really is.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Just because every time it's actually you, it's never me.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I'm awesome.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
H thank you everybody for joining us for this park
Opper episode, and seriously go to the website and check
it out. Well, I'm sure we'll put it up on
our Instagram and go check out a concert I'm looking
forward to. We'll have to go to the we will
we'll totally ago. Maybe we could.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Yeah, yeah, that would be good.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
We'll take Jordan, we'll take Sue.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
We'll go and we'll grab some dinner and we'll have
some fun and we'll go see their show.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
It'll be a ton of fun.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
And thank you everybody for joining us on this wonderful,
magical rewind park Copper episode. And remember we don't have
a catchphrase to end an episode. Thanks everybody,
Hosts And Creators
Will Friedle
Sabrina Bryan
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