Starring Adam Wylie as Gilbert in "Under Wraps"

Adam Wylie joins will and Sabrina to talk about working on the first DCOM "Under Wraps", growing up in the industry and more!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Thank you everybody for joining us on this Park Copper
episode of Magical Rewind. You are probably joining us because
you just enjoyed the bonkerness of under Wraps, a very
good movie that was a very strange dcom. I think
that's probably the best way to see it. And we
want to know all of the tea. We want the
everything spilt. Yes, I'm hitting that tea unspilled. I want

(00:38):
it all spilt. And to get that spiltness, I'm gonna
stop this metaphor right now, by the way. But to
get all the information we want and all the great
behind the scenes stories, we're.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Gonna have an old friend of mine on.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yes, can we please welcome Adam Wiley? Hi?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Everyone, how are you? I'm so good? How are you two?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Good?

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Great?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Adam, Sabrina Sabrina, Adam.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Hi, Adam, nice to meet you.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I'm very excited. Thank you guys for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
We were excited.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
We apologize for being a little late here.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
We so we watched the movie and did the recap
right before we brought you on what and it went
a little bit longer than we expected because we had
an awful lot to say about this, So much to say.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
I can only imagine.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Again, we both liked this movie as a movie.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
It holds up right, it does, it does, it's just
not in any way a d com, Like it did
not belong on the channel with the content that's in there.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah. Well, I mean it was the first one. That's
probably why. Like when we were filming it. I remember
filming it in Chico, California, and the entire crew was like, well,
this is what's going to be called a d com.
We're not sure what.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
That is, so we're using that word around set too.
That's cool. That's cool to know.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Well, they called it a Disney original film, and they
were like the first one. We don't know if we're
gonna make any more. It's going to depend on how
it goes, Like probably this will be one and done.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Oh god.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
And we were like, oh, okay, dot to do. What's
film a movie? And well, we've just.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
We've watched so many dcoms that we've got kind of
like the voice of the dcom in our head or
kind of voice. They definitely found it as Yes, but
when another so when an eleven year old character turns
to another character and she says, I sleep in the
nude we go, whoa, like what?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
There was a lot in there. They snuck in some stuff,
you know, I.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Would imagine do you remember?

Speaker 5 (02:51):
I mean obviously you guys all have like parents on
set with you guys, and.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Did any of the parents ever bring up I mean
it's like no they.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Said anything like it was. It was such a different time. Yeah,
And that was I was on. I was on a
drama series at that time that literally predicted the future
and predicted stuff that was crazy, like the first human
being born through a cow fetus, like through a cow.

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They predicted a very tragic event that I won't say
because it's not appropriate for the podcast. But I mean
it was David E. Kelly's first show, so I was
dealing with like really really heavy, heavy adult stuff. This
was like this seemed very Disney and fun for my
normal nine to five.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
To be honest with you, yeah, no, we will again.
We both enjoyed it. It's just the language. The vibe
of the movie didn't hit dcom to us. After you
see all of these kind of like you know, a
we're little witches and stuff like that, and this one,
they're like you're breaking an entering. She's talking about suicide.
She's like, you're must want to open her own vein.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
It's like, oh my god.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
So even as simple as like the insults, like at
the very beginning, I think one of the first like
five lines the the the horror movie was terrified but
the brother calls his sister a cow.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Like I mean, it just was like whoa.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
I mean, just on the level of like where Disney
kind of hits the marks on things, it just was
so different and and I think we were ready and
and it was definitely something we were anticipating that he
had not done this before, so they were going to
figure out their formula.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
However, this was just so far beyond.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
You know, we've seen stuff that was made one or
two years after this movie. So it's like it was
just a little like jarring. And again we both liked it.
It just didn't seem at all like it's just really.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Kind of crazy.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
I mean, I think it it definitely is speaks to
a different voice than the normal Disney kind of material.
I mean, even even when I answered the door and
say she's role playing, go with it, like the fact
that he kind of knows what that is. Okay, yes,
well then.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
Or celibacy or the fact that you guys end up
at like what seems like a swingers party, like.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Come on wearing a feather bow, literally wearing a feather bow.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yes, playing and the trailer and it's true what happened?

Speaker 1 (05:31):
You know what this reminded me of, Sabrina had never
heard of scene of this movie, but you you would
probably know this because we're close to.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
The same age.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
This reminded me more of like a monster squad, kind
of like that kind of vibe to that kind of thing,
uh seems and so you just we we had that.
Had we started with this movie as the first d
comm and we just went in order, it perfectly would
have made sense. But when you start with like Descendants
in high school musical and then you're you're watching.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
It, vibe, it is slightly different vibe.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Can you explain to me?

Speaker 3 (06:01):
So?

Speaker 5 (06:01):
Okay, so you were already I mean, during this time,
and I was telling Will how excited I was like
to meet you because oh my god, talk about no,
not at all, talk about nostalgia in the sense of
during this time you were in so many memorable movies
for me, as like a kid and TV show and

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things like that. Now I don't think I was watching
the show you were talking about.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, I don't think I was watching that.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
All good, You don't have to thank you.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Why don't we start at the beginning, lad, Yeah, that's
what I want to know. I want to know how
you started because you're from the famous Bill and Ted's
land of San DIMIs correct.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
I am, Well, that's where I was born, but I
was raised in that area. I was. I was born
in San Dimas. I was raised in Claremont, California, kind
of grew up in the Inland Empire and moved around
the Inland Empire until like my mid mid to late twenties,
and then finally like moved to La like.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
She Okay, so that's a dry every day since I
was four, like the weirdest, Like, I don't know why?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
So how how did that work?

Speaker 1 (07:07):
How do you decide that you want to be in
this business of show.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
That's really interesting story. Okay, So how show business came
about in my life? I have a lot of siblings,
so I'm the youngest of five kids, and one of
my brothers was doing theater. But it was kind of
like that pay to play theater where everybody gets a

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role and there's five hundred people in the cast and
they have a showcase at the end, and the showcase
brought in la agents and managers. So he got an
agent and eventually went to like professional ballet school and
kind of then went out of the business. And I

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saw that he was gone, and I was like, what's
he doing? Acting? Acting? That sounds fun? I had no
idea what that was.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
And you're at this point.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
I'm four, So I said I want to do it,
and my mom's like, yeah, okay, why not. And so
brought me to his agent and she was like, do
you think little redhead kid will wear it? And they
were like, yes, put him on an audition. I booked it,
and the rest is history.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Was the first audition, do you remember?

Speaker 3 (08:22):
The first audition was a Fisher Price print to ad
and the director, which is how much I thought we
got paid, gave us seventy five cents each for a
scoop of ice cream, because children, that's what a scoop
of ice cream class when I first started with seventy
five cents because I'm one hundred and two. And so

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we all went and we got ice cream, and we
came back and I said, this is right, I am
going to be so rich with borders and it was
the best. I had the best time. And it was
actually like you know the little like basketball hoop that
every kid has with like the blue bass, and my son.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Has it right now. I could literally is what that is?

Speaker 3 (09:03):
The print at So it was for those set of
sporting goods. It was the whole set. So I I
was the That's that's what I did. My first print
at for was that set of sporting equipment because they
had balls, they had the soccer thing with the little
target in the middle. They have the basketball thing, which
every kid still owns, which is amazing. So every time

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I see it, every items awesome. I would still play
with them. So that is kind of that is that
is where it all started. And then it took off
into commercials from there and I think I did like
I must have done like ten to fifteen commercials in
my first like a couple of years. It was it

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was absolutely insane.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
You were just working constants.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I was I ever since that day where I got
seventy five cents, I just didn't sleep and it was
just off to the races and so I did.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Was there ever the possibility of then moving to LA.
If you're working all the time, why why didn't you
move closer?

Speaker 3 (10:03):
No, really, no, it was never a possibility. I have
no idea why. I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
Well, I mean, but your mom had four other kids
to be thinking about and whatever activities they.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Were in, like we're all going to high school and
what have you, because they're at least ten to twelve
years older than me. Yeah, and here I am, you know,
driving to LA back and forth from the IE, and
it's it's pretty pretty crazy.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
I grew up in Orange County, so that I mean,
you're talking when audition times were. You're talking an hour
and a half drive from Orange County Inland Empire is
another thirty depending how far you're into it, like another
thirty or forty minutes pass me.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Correct, So I don't know how Like I don't know
how many days I actually went to school from this
because I also went to regular school by the way,
So I don't know how many days I started and
finished the day. It's probably I would say it's gotta
be under fifty of the days I actually started school
and ended school. Because they had all auditions at like

(11:08):
one in the afternoon because that's a great time to
bring in a child on a weekday. And I remember
having upwards like this was back in the hey day
when everything was done in person, you guys know. And
I had ten auditions in one day, not once, a

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few times, and I think I don't even know if
I made it to all of them because there's not
enough time because everything is like, oh, you have to
go to Studio City, then Santa Monica, then Venice, then
you have to go back to Glendale.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yep, Burbank.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Ye, yeah, my god.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, it's absolutely bonkers.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yes, the auditions were never at one. They were at
one ten.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Which my mom always treated it like one because she
always got there at one thirty. Anyway, there like one ten,
so it didn't really matter because this.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
Was when you would walk in and there was a
giant line and the sign and sheet. You're like fifteen
down and you're going, okay, well either we stay.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
So then you start picking and choosing, all right, well
this one, I don't know, are you good? Is this
a good fit? You know what?

Speaker 5 (12:16):
We're just gonna go to the next one like it.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
And it was like, but it's a callback. Yeah, but
it's not a national national okay, And I'm like, I
don't know what that means. Yeah, we're just gonna get along.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
But I do know how to read Thomas Guy.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Great, Yeah, exactly, I do know how.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
To read Thomas Guy. Mom, I gotcha.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
It's so true because you had to, you had no
other choice.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Was picket Fences?

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Your first big kind of that was Seinfeld does not
do everything by Seinfeld. So was Seinfeld before was before
picket Fences, wasn't it?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Seinfeld was before picket Fences? Kind cop was before Picke.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Fencess, right, Yeah, Kindergarten Cop was definitely my first big
thing that was so my agent refused to send me
out on anything but commercials.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
I was with a very big agency that is still
around today. Who I've been, who I've been represented by
as an adult as well. They the when the person
was in charge, whose name is in the agency, was like, no,
he is not ready. Yeah, I know he's booked fifty commercials,
but he is not ready to do TV or film.
And my mom was like, ridiculous the work changing agencies.

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So we did and I auditioned for Canarion Cop. I was.
They really wanted me to play the lead. They really
wanted me for Dominic, right, but I wasn't a twin,
so that meant half. That meant half the amount of
time that I could be on set. So instead they
gave me the part of Larry because they still wanted
me to be in the movie. So I got the
part of Larry. And then they they hired a Christian

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and Joe Cousins for the twins so that they could
do it so that they could work more, and I
was just than another kid. And then my story.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Twins, where I've had no idea the main actors were twins.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
It makes such sense though you can hear it.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
You can hear his voice is different because the froggier
voice is Joe and the not so froggy voices Chris.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Wow, that's a good.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Do you remember being on set and like working with
Schwarzenegger and all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
I remember every detail of almost every set I've been
on really really great. Like my memory is so weird
on things like that. But if you tell me where
I put my keys.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
No, I'm exactly exactly the same way.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
So I was like, it was amazing. Arnold was really
great with the kids. I when we did. When we
had school, it was kindergarten and there was a few
first graders. Most of us were kindergarten, with the exception
of miko Q, who was in preschool. He was the
only one not even in kindergarten yet. So we had
like clay stations and I remember like building clay things

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and playing board games and having so much fun. And
then we had a playground outside, but you know, it
was like you can play, but no sweating. It was like, okay,
so we can't play like one of those. And we
had these things called smocks, so the oversized shirts that
we wore backwards because we were very tiny people, and

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it covered our whole wardrobe so that when we ate, colored, painted, whatever,
it wouldn't show up on anything. And Arnold came to
meet the kids and here he is, like, you know,
eight times the size of any of us, and he's like, hello, children,
I love it's no good in my movie. And then
he picked us all up by his arms. Everybody get on, yes, yes,

(15:53):
it's possible, yes, and we were like dangling for dear life.
It was so rad And then we had a Yahoo
interview for reunion. I want to say, like twenty twenty two,
and he surprised us and came on the reunion really
really really awesome that it'll be okay, yes.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
By the way, for everyone out there listening, Adam did
not misspeak. He said, claystation, not PlayStation.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah, all of the people listening station, that's the original PlayStation.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
It's just actually put her hands in the clay and
make things that were awesome.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
As opposed to the virtual way you do it now.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
There's an app for it now.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
So then you moved from you got kindergarten copperatures at
the time, Arnold is.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
That like his height.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
It was a huge movie. I can't even did the premiere.
Was there a premiere for it at all?

Speaker 3 (16:53):
That I don't remember, But weren't premieeres weren't like the
weren't anything close to what they are now. Like yeah,
when we did under Wrapped, we didn't have a premiere.
It was like a film with the movie and you're done.
We did under Wraps too, and it was like you
get a day at Disneyland with a guide and we'll

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have an entire premiere and fireworks and a special defe
just for you. Will be in the great moments with
mister Lincoln Theater and we'll make custom treats and I'm like,
what has this become?

Speaker 5 (17:28):
Yeah, the premiere really didn't start. I don't feel like
until like high School Musical, which.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Is Tiger Cruz had a premiere at the DGA, because
I remember going to that.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
It was an actual d com or was it a film?

Speaker 3 (17:43):
I think it was considered a dcomb still, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
I don't even know how that works anymore.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
I believe, yeah, I believe because they had they had
a they had a wall of the dcoms that they
had done so far.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
So yeah, so there was like a and that was
like kind of like the start. It was like very
small and you got like some popcorn, and nobody really
knew about it. There was like two press people who
were like, why are we here? Right about it?

Speaker 2 (18:11):
That sounds about right? Yeah? And then so then where
do you where do you go from there?

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Are you now?

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Like, Okay, I'm gonna be a movie star. Your agents
must have been like, well, he's going to be in everything?
Or is it still just all right?

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Now?

Speaker 1 (18:21):
We go back to normal audition when you can audition,
go back to school.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
It's exactly that, it's exactly just like and on to
the next and that's that's that's it. I was in
a very cool movie and that's about it. So it
was just audition, audition, auditional, audition until something sticks and
I went to I had gone to Network for a
couple of things and it didn't work out. I had

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gone to Network for Home Improvement, and that didn't work
out because I my mom thought, you know, his hair
is really red. Redheads are really in. Let's dye his
hair even more red. So I had very red, red,
red red, but it was dyed. So I'm naturally a
strawberry blonde. So I do have red in my hair,
but it wasn't like insanely red like it was as
a kid, not naturally anyway. So when I went to

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Network for Home Improvement, they had three sets of kids.
They had the blonde kids, the redheaded kids, and the
dark haired kids. And so they went with the blonde
mom with the blonde kids, and they filmed the pilot
and was like, we don't like the blonde mom, brought
in the brunette mom, but kept the blonde kids. So
then they were like Hey, Adam would be really great.

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Let's have him do this little guest spot because we
remember him from Network. So I did an audition for it.
I came in, I did the role, and they're like,
what happened to your red hair? My mom was like, oh, yeah,
it was dyed from a bottle, and they were like okay,
because back then, and I mean, the business is still
like this to some degree where if you do not

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have red hair and they want someone with red hair,
unless you're a giant star, they're going to find someone
with red hair. And so that's kind of what it
was like. They just had their set and no one
can interchange, and that's kind of it. But it didn't
pan out. And then I finally auditioned for Picket Fences
and that worked out and kind of the rest fell
into place after that. I'd say that was kind of

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the launching point. And why in under Wraps I have
which is crazy Top Billing as a sidekick, Like, that's nuts.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
You had you had, you did have Top Bill. We
thought you were the star of the movie started.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
It seemed like it was gonna be the movie was
going to be about.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
You and yours and yeah, for sure, and then it
all of a sudden is about Marshall and we're like, oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, no. And I think it was because Picket Fences
had just won like its second Golden Globe and Kathy
and Tom had won their second Golden Globe for it,
and then I was almost nominated for an Emmy that year,
so it was very much like a like last minute.

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They went with Fiveishwinkle, who then ended up winning because
they were like, he's got time, which totally makes sense
and uh, and that's why I think I was top
bills at the time. But even though I feel Bill
was a bigger star in my opinion, but Coach was gigantic,
Like I loved Coach, which is.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Like, yeah, I did too, but they didn't even give
him credit as.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
I know, I know, which is just weird.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
In the remake, they used two different people, which made
no sense to me, because I think the whole point
is to have it be the same person, because it's
the it's the figures why I need to change my
behavior and why I was wrong. Ah, and it's the
change of heart moment because you remind me so much
of my father. But you know, it's all right, it

(21:44):
all works it happens, it all works out, It all
works out.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
So what I mean I have to ask you come
you're on like like you were saying you were one
of the kids on a very intense kind of drama.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yes, it was very So what I mean, what is
that set?

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Like?

Speaker 2 (22:02):
You're what? How old are you at this point?

Speaker 3 (22:04):
When Pick Offenses started, I was six and when it
ended I was about to turn twelve.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
Wow. Six years.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah. And I was also doing Beauty and the Beast
at the same time, so thank god. They were across
the street from each other, was the Schubert Theater in
Century City, which is now torn down, and we filmed
at twenty century Fox. It was literally next to each other.
So I would film pick Offenses, go do the show
at night, go home to the Inland Empire, drive back
at six in the morning, whatever it is, do it

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all again. Oh. Actually think my contract for Beau to
Beast was six months.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
When you say Beauty and the Beast, did you play.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Chip yeah, the Broadway show.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah, yes, I swear I saw you.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
It's very possible.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
I had to have I mean yes, the specifically, I
bet you.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
I did, I bet you?

Speaker 3 (23:01):
I did? Oh maybe maybe?

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Oh, my gosh, your mom, Like, is anyone at all?

Speaker 5 (23:09):
It was just thinking of the health of your mom
at this point, like driving these crazy hours, sitting on.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Set, was anyone just filling in for her?

Speaker 5 (23:19):
Like on a Wednesday, like is she gonna do us?

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yes? That answer good?

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Good.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
She didn't really like love to do that. She actually
really loved being on set because she could just like
kind of sit there and sew because she like, does
you know these sewing pillows and like and she's like
this is great and I'm just like sitting there like,
you know, hey, how are you tap dance? And going
to do my thing? But every once in a while, yeah,

(23:46):
she had she had a few friends.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
But that drive back and forth every day, My goodness,
you at least got I mean, I think of when
I was doing my drive. I always like, you know,
getting out of school a little early, going up, I
took a nap, I woke up, I reviewed my scripts
like and there.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Sides like oh yeah, it was just all you did
was focus.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
All that time. And I remember, no matter what car
we had, my mom always put a TV in it
because I was in I had such long drives. Yeah,
being from there that you needed some sort of entertainment.
So I would take all of my like action figures,
I'd put them in the seat next to me and
I would play with that. Or I would have the
TV and I would pop in a VHS tape. I
did not startter VHS tape, and I would put that in.

(24:33):
And I remember the one that was in there the
longest was water World. Don't know why, because.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
It was a fun movie, a fun.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Movie water If you didn't know the story of the
making of water World, that would have been a great film.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, exactly, totally if I did not know the story making.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
So we always had boomerang antenna, so like everyone was like,
you drive a Limo and I'm like, hmm, so this
is like a camera witho.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
So you were the one of the few kids a
TV back in the day. Though.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
We had a TV and a car phone that never
had reception and never worked. And I just remember my
mom or you know, eventually me getting paiged and it
was like we have to find a payphone, of course,
and it was just running to get a payphone. You
got a call back, call back.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
It was great, Like we didn't know how good we
had it.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Pulling off the freeway and finding a payphone.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, we didn't know how good we had it.

Speaker 5 (25:31):
Okay, So what was the transition of you going into
the voice acting right away?

Speaker 4 (25:39):
And did the people that you were.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
Going back to school with have any idea that you
were the voice of these cartoons that they were watching
the cartoons?

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Not so much when they saw me on TV. I
was really popular for a day and then it was
back to normal and the teachers were interesting depending on
the school I went to, like stories about that. But
voiceover happened when I was six, I want to say so.
I think the first thing I did was the Swan
Princess voiceover wise because they couldn't find a six year

(26:11):
old who could sing, and it was he can sing.
Let's we need a young Prince Derek who can sing.
He can sing? And so then that was that was
And from that day I was doing voiceovers constantly and
it was like the most fun, Like I just think
I had my hand in every single part of the

(26:36):
industry that I possibly could. It was like the best.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Well, I mean that's where you and I started.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, Well we started seeing each other more and more
after boy, because we had the same voiceover agent. Back
in the day, you wouldn't audition from your house. You'd
have to go in, put your name on a list,
sit there an hour and a half. We'd sit there
and we talk, We do all that stuff. But it
was during all this nothing. We could stick with the
voiceover for a bit. But it was during all that
stuff where I really realized that it was where you

(27:06):
started doing magic for me.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
One hundred percent. Yes, and we had time, We had
time to kill, so why not see. Okay, normal normal
kids develop hobbies or other things. But I decided to
go full nerd. So when all of this stuff happened,
I used to bring a bunch of sports equipment to
every single set. Like the thing about me is I

(27:30):
am very unassuming because I always play the nerdy sidekick,
but I'm a sports aholic. And I had every single
item of equipment in the trunk of Mike, either my
mom's or mike car because it was a four hour
drive home, or I could go to the driving range
or go bowling and then it would be an hour
and a half drive home.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah right, yep, there you go.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
So I would have rather done that. And I was
in a ton of sports leagues and I don't know
how the heck I had the time. But you know,
so I was doing magic here and there since I
was about five, but I never took it seriously. The
acting career was dominating my life. Yeah, acting career in

(28:12):
sports just dominate my life. And so I didn't know
really how big magic could get because I'd just seen
a trick from a professional magician when I was doing
a play or a musical actually, and he gave it
to me, and I kind of got hooked and I
bought some magic and then I just kind of like
left to be for a while. Bob you know, did
it off and on forgot about it, left all every
piece of magic I own on a plane at seventeen,

(28:34):
didn't do it for two years. Was like, man, I
don't want to spend three hundred dollars to do all
of this stuff. Met a magician doing a play who
was one of the leads on my super ex or
not my crazy ex girlfriend who's still one of my
very close friends, and he got me back in the
magic saw, showed me how deep the rabbit hole could go.

(28:55):
Flash forward to my golden birthday. I was doing Wicket
at the Pantage and I was turning twenty three on
the twenty third and thought, I'm going to join the
Magic Castle. This is going to happen. So I did,
and it happened in a way that was totally crazy.
There's normally an audition process. They knew I was doing Wicked,
they heard I was interested, They made me an associate member.
Didn't know I was a magician. Then they had written

(29:17):
a musical. I did a musical for them for four years,
then started performing in the close up room. And now
I have won eight awards and I'm a two time
Magic Castle Strolling champion and I now take magic there
and I performed there literally all the time. They send

(29:38):
me out two events sometimes it's crazy. So I'm like
fully ingrained also now as like a champion magician as
well as an award winning actor. It's the craziest thing,
but it helps because at first I didn't have the
best hands that came with time. So what I could

(29:59):
do is I knew how to perform, and I knew
how to control an audience, and that was number one
for magic, that is number one. So I had that
down and then eventually everything started to catch up, and
so it built what I am now, which is pretty crazy.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Random question. Is Chef Anton still there?

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Oh yeah, of course he has. I love Chef Fantom,
a port On Blue chef as well as a magician
and trick shot champion.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Well, he's the one who taught me my trick shots
for Boy Meets World. I worked with him for so good,
like a week and a half to get my trick
shots down.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
But yeah, I remember you.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Showing the audise magics and it started like you're just like, hey,
h pick a card or whatever, like it just started
very sick and then it was just everyone around you
sitting there waiting for their audition, like where will we.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Do another one?

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Do another one? Do another one?

Speaker 3 (30:43):
That is very sweet of one.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Definitely, it definitely allowed that you should come both.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
I want to go back. I want to go back.
We can get invited.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
You have me. We're good, Okay, we can walk in
whenever we want. Okay, good, whenever we want. Because as
a member, you have that privilege. It's not that like
I'm going U. I owe the place literally every remember
as this thing where we can literally we could literally
set up a podcast.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
I have to be with a member to go to
the Castle. Right, you have to be a member.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
You can also receive a guest pass, but the guest
pass comes with different requirements, whereas if you walk in
with with the magician, it's it's a lot easier.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Let's just say wow, that's so, and it's one of
the coolest places in all of la Really. For everybody
who doesn't know the Magice, well, I'm not going to
explain it.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Explain what because of people a lot of people listening
in around the country might not know what the Magic
Castle is.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yes, so the Magnet Castle's most exclusive club for magicians
in the entire world. It was built in nineteen sixty three.
Well the building was there since nineteen oh eight, but
it became the Magic Castle in nineteen sixty three. And
it's got a bunch of showrooms. You have to be in.
You have to be a member or be invited by
a member in order to even walk in. It is

(31:57):
a cocktail attire, so it's either suit, tie or dress,
but it's formal attire. You cannot wear sneakers, you cannot
wear zippers on your clothes like showing on your jacket
or what have you. It is one of those very
fancy I'm dressing like I'm in the nineteen thirties and

(32:17):
going to go see magic, and it is so awesome.
And it was founded by a bunch of celebrities who
were also magicians, because back in the day most actors
were magicians, starting with Robert Houdan and Houdini and Dante.
So from then on, actors were also magicians. Magicians were
also actors. And I had no idea that like Carry Grant,
Bob Barker, all of these orson Wells. Even now you

(32:39):
have like Steve Valentine, Ricky j who are just also
actor magicians. And there's a lot more that you wouldn't
think of, like Johnny Depp and so many people.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Theis depth, really they're magicians.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yeah, Yeah. Neopatrick Harris of course, who I've known since
his Doogie Howserd days because we filmed on twentieth Century
Fox and I did magic and they went, hey, you
should meet you should meet Neil. He's also a magician.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
And that you said, you teach Can you teach anybody
how to do this stuff?

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Absolutely? Especially performers are actually the easiest. It is very
easy to if you're a good performer, to make a
great magician. It is very difficult to make a great
magician good performer because normally a lot of us magicians
sit in our mother's basement practicing for thirty years and

(33:32):
then we go light. But when you already have that
skill of performing, that is I'm telling you eighty percent
of the battle. The tricks are easy as long as
you can sell them. For the most part, there are
things that are incredibly difficult. Don't get me wrong. I
have busted knuckles for years doing things that are crazy,

(33:56):
like crazy Town that shim Limb did on day one,
But it is crazy, crazy, crazy stuff. But there are
stuff that are just as impactful, that are super simple.
But it's all about the presentation that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
We were just with him in Vegas and he'd be
sat on a stage. Danielle Ryder and I sat in
a stage. It was just four of us and he
just did a trick for us and it was really
really cool.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yeah, because he has fingers that are inspector gadget fingers.
I'm convinced that they detached from their body. Like as
a professional piano player for so long, he had such
an advantage of like I'm gonna reach like that's not possible.
How tall are you? That's not that does? That should
not work? Wow?

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Okay, all right, So well well I'm gonna take you
over on that because I wanted to take my wife
to the magic Castle.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
So please let's it'll be awesome. My wife would also
love that. It's not like I ever have cards.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Oh he's got cards with always do it's bad?

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Can you do?

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Now here's a question. Can you do a magic trick
over zoom?

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Is that even a thing?

Speaker 3 (35:04):
I think I could manage like Michael Scott? Somehow I
manage so hammer angles are gonna be weird. But will
could you just name any card that you'd like?

Speaker 2 (35:17):
The seven of diamonds?

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Yeah, Sabrina, could you? I'm kidding. So we're gonna use that,
but I just want you to see, Sabrina, this is
very very important. I'm gonna shuffle the deck or shoe
fle as it's called in French. Is the Uh that's
the seven of diamonds. But we're not gonna worry about that.
What we will do is make sure that we have
all four seven spades hearts? Do I have the fourth one?

(35:41):
Please say? I do? Okay? Good clubs and we're gonna
take out four just random cards, because that for me,
there's four random cards, like, we have four, and we're
gonna put them on top here, and we're just gonna
flip them all face down. So you have a Nine
of Clubs, which we are going to flip face down

(36:03):
for you guys. At Nine of Clubs, you see that,
And you've got the Ten of Hearts, which is good,
The Ten of Hearts. That's one of my favorite cards.
I like the Ten of Hearts, probably because it's on
the back of every single bicycle box you're gonna want.
You're gonna look. Now, three of Diamonds and also the
Queen of Clubs. Now, I'm gonna get rid of the
entire deck, and I'm just going to use these cards
so that they stay in plane view the entire time,

(36:26):
which is very important. I feel. Now, this isn't the
hard that you name. I got off track and I
forgot where I am. This isn't the card that you named,
right well, no it is not.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Which one did you say the seven of Diamonds?

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Sweet, oh oh, don't worry, I got a four.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
It's okay, just fyi. And they're all real, like every
single one of them. Are you could touch them? I
could hand them to you right now. They're fine, so crazy.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
Paper, Oh my gosh. Okay, so when you ever get started,
like let's see, you're with a group of friends, do
they ever let you stop doing magic what you start?
Because they're just so blown, Like it's like I need
to see another one, show me another one, like.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Okay, so this becomes a problem. Yes, it is kind
of like a pringles can pop, don't stop And that's
the problem is that I don't stop that Sometimes I
go and I just think of like a set while
I am going, and then it's just like, okay, you

(37:43):
like we really gotta go, let's go, and we really
gotta go.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
And I'm like, I love that I have.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
A stupid question because I know nothing stupid question there are.
I can promise you there's just.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Learning more information.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Okay, good, But there's there's stupid questions out there. I
have heard them.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Okay, I'm just not gonna say that.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Are do you invent your own tricks or are you
just learning other tricks?

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Okay, so you're making up.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Your own geez. So I am taking It's much like
writing a song.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Right.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Sometimes I'm inventing new things, but few and far between.
Most things have been invented by now, and I'm taking
different principles and mashing them together in a mix of
awesomeness awesome coolness. So like that one I did not invent,
but that's the easiest and fastest to do over like

(38:39):
a zoom situation, whereas there's a lot more that are
way more intricate, sure and what have you, And it's
very visual, so that's why I kind of chose that.
But yes, in short, I do, and there are things
that I would like to bring to market and with
my YouTube channel. I haven't done this yet, but I'm
going to of the tricks that I have invented because

(39:01):
I do lecture tours as well, like different magician meeting
places like we have the Magic Castle. I've lectured at
the Magic Castle for the Magicians. I've lectured at IBM rings,
which are the International Brotherhood of Magicians like sing. So
I've definitely done a ton of lectures and a lot

(39:22):
of the tricks that I've invented are on like in
that lecture, but I've done I've invented way more so
I can do like probably I have another lecture ready
to go that I already know what tricks that would
be on it, and then I have another lecture in
my head. So yeah, I've got a ton of stuff.
What I'm saying about the YouTube channels that I'm going
to teach on my YouTube channel for subs, So it's

(39:46):
going to be like a monthly fee, and I'm going
to put stuff all the way from beginner to advanced
on there, and I'm going to put it all under
the same category so that no matter what your skill
level is, not only is there going to be something
for you, but you might benefit even from the basic
ones because there's there's some gems that I have found
that even uh pros go oh, I'm going to use

(40:06):
that because basic and simple does not mean not usable.
It does not mean it's not impactful. Sure, very different.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Okay, So I'm going to pitch you an idea right
now for a mini documentary. Let's do it is I
have never done a magic trick in my life done,
and so you have six months to teach me and
then I have to do a show at the Magic Castle.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
I only need two weeks. Come on, what the two weeks? Yeah,
I could do I for sure can do it within
a month if you gave me a date from let's
just say a month from now, where you were like,
I have to do one show. I am telling you
that I could make people think you have been doing

(40:55):
magic four years. That's crazy, is crazy, it will. In fact,
I want to do this with you. I'm willing, but
I'm saying, let's do it. Oh that's because why not
only have I known you forever, but like I understand

(41:16):
your style. I feel I feel maybe right, do you
feel like this this could work with either one of you.
To be honest, but I really feel like this could be.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Well, it's gonna be Sabrina doing all the magic. I
have to be in the assistant out. Oh sure, whatever
you want at all, not at all.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
You may not even need an assistant. I'm on in
the line, but.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I made true. Oh man, all right, well we'll talk
but anyway, but before we let you go, we've got
to talk a little bit about so one of the
stories that we heard, because we are talking about under wraps,
we heard one of the things that was happening is
that it was so hot shooting that Bill Fagerbaki was
actually like there was times he was close to passing
out on set.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Is this true? One thousand percent fans all over him.
He had to sit because he couldn't get out once
he was in it. It was like even just to
use the restroom was a nightmare. So he would just
sit there like this. And back then we didn't have
this technology, so it's not thing that could be like
we're just gonna green screen out his mouth or whatever

(42:19):
you do. They had to take this dark cole kind
of like makeup and like spread it all over. He
had to wash his mouth with it so that everything
was black pretty much and so that you couldn't really
tell where the fake teeth were and where his teeth were.
That was kind of like the the thing. So he

(42:40):
had to and then everything was done and he was
like okay, so but it would be off within ten
minutes because it was just so hot outside that all
the makeup was just gone. And then you know, you
have glue on your face with prosthetics, and when splitting
a lot, when you have prosthetics, now things are popped
up and then you have to dry it in order

(43:02):
to like glue it back down and stay. Because if
you're painting glue on wet skin. It's just not gonna stick. Yeah,
there's no way it's gonna stick. So it was quite
a challenge. Uh. I have seen Bill recently. He has
come to the Magic Castle to see me perform twice.
Some dude, I mean, just one of the sweetest guys

(43:24):
still on the planet. I love that guy. He's just
he's so rad.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Wow, that is amazing. Are you also?

Speaker 3 (43:32):
So?

Speaker 1 (43:32):
One of the things we've noticed is that, especially in
recent years, there's been a huge resurgence of the nostalgia
and the d are you Are you feeling the love
from under Wraps and from kind of the people. One
of the things we hear is almost like a Christmas
story every Christmas for some families.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Under Wraps for some families is kind of a Halloween tradition.
Is this something you've been you've been feeling lately.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
From the fan? Yes? Absolutely. You cannot find the original
under Wraps though on Disney Plus or through Disney So
you can buy it on It's also on Amazon. You
can get a DVD of it on Amazon for like
one hundred and seven dollars.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Oh my god, it's not on Disney Plus.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
No not, actually, no, I have no clue why. I
think it's because it's so I think you guys kind
of hit it in the beginning. It's so different from
every d com that doesn't really fit as a d com.
And then when they were able to remake it, they
kind of were able to fix all of those issues

(44:42):
where it was like, oh, well, now this kind of
fits in the Disney bubble right right.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
Well, there also was those music rights too. I like
the one song that he by Myself, Yeah, that plays
and over again. Trying to get the rights for that
could have been an issue.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
We know that that's always.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Seeing other movies where they pull it out and all
that stuff. You know, they put it in a different song,
and so they could have done stuff like that. But
my guess is then I could be wrong, But is
the New under Wraps Do they talk about underage nudity
in that one?

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Or no? I'm gonna say no. I would think probably
not more fits in a Disney bubble, That's what I'm thinking.
Any other ones.

Speaker 5 (45:21):
I'm guessing what weren't the talks around when they were
talking about getting and researching that the New under Wraps, Like,
what was that like to kind of get the first
initial calls and how long did it seem to actually
end up taking to make that.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
One kind of didn't know about it until the casting
process was happening, and they had approached me about doing
a cameo in it, but it was twenty so it
was pandemic time, okay, and it was They were like, listen,
it's gonna be We think it's going to be like
a one or two scene cameo. It doesn't really make
sense to fall you all the way up here to
quarantine for two weeks in a hotel by yourself film

(46:00):
or one day and fly you back. They already knew
that they if this did well, that they were kind
of already planning for a sequel, right, So they waited,
So they waited. They kind of did the thing, then
flew me out for the sequel, which was great. I mean,
I was there for like a whirlwind of forty eight hours,
and it was so much fun to be back on

(46:24):
a set for a d com. It was so much
fun to experience that. It was also so much fun
to hear the new like kids who were playing the
three roles as well as harr I mean, of course
I did like magic for about eight hours of course,
but it was. It was so great to like hear
all of their questions and them watching the original movie

(46:47):
and liking it, and we're all still like in communication
and it's just like the coolest experience to do that.
You feel like almost a dad. You're like, well back
in when I was filming the original, and you're like,
I am your age. I feel mentally for a fact,

(47:07):
I'm not, and I don't understand the language, but it's
just like it was surreal. I think that's the best
way to describe it. So it was nice even though
I wasn't in a remake, it was nice to be
in the remakes sequel and it completely makes sense why.
And it was just like the coolest thing ever. That awesome.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
That's very cool.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
I mean, going to a project is awesome.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
We have to ask as our last question. We always
like to wrap up with the same thing. You were,
you know on the channel on Disney Channel all that
kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Were you a Disney Channel fan? And if so, what
was your favorite dcom?

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Oh? Man, of course I was at Disney Channel fan.
What was my favorite dcom? That's a really good question.
Oh geez, that's way too many.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
To like I know it's so too many.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Top three, top three.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Oh no, top three, top three, top three. Luck of
the Irish is so good? Like, can I just say
that Luck of the Irish is awesome? I think Brink
has to be up there, even though I was this
close to doing it.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Oh really Yeah?

Speaker 3 (48:20):
So it was the Eric Vondt cast or the Eric
Lively cast.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Yeah, okay, gotcha, we were We were right there.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
And my one of my my oldest brother founded was
one of the founders of Team Roller Blood.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Oh you're kidding.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
I've been skating since I could walk, and I play hockey,
roller and ice, so it was like, man, it's so easy,
like I was. And then I ended up doing a
skateboarding movie What Which one? Which One Street Dreams that
Robed der Dick wrote and produces, And it was so
like it was the best.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
Uh oh my god, I gotta see that one.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
I got to see it.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
It's really good. It's a really good movie. I have
to say, oh gosh, where was I?

Speaker 4 (49:06):
Okay, so I like the Irish and Brink.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
I have to go under wraps. I mean I can't.
I just it was just so much fun to make,
and it was like one of those experiences that you
don't know where this is going and you're just so
hopeful and to see what it has sparked is like, yeah,
mind blowing.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
You're the first brick, first brick in the foundation. I
mean really you were.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
That's nuts. Willing as a side character, that's that's nuts too.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Well, thank you so much for joining us today.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Thank you for having me, and this is this is awesome.
Of course, I'm very much looking forward to to seeing
you guys. And yeah, we'll talk.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Yeah, definitely, we will do it.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
We will talk soon absolutely, all right, cool, all right,
thanks man?

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Bye?

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Oh man. He was in everything. He was everything.

Speaker 5 (50:10):
I mean, the more he talked, the more like the
shows and the like movies and everything just kept popping
in my head. I'm like, man, he's had an amazing career.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, amazing.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
He's also I've seen him so we like we were
talking about doing the we'd have to sit there at
our voiceover agency, and back in the day, you would
wait an hour and a half two hours for a
booth sometime, and he would bust out a deck of
cards and the time would go so fast because you'd
just be sitting there watching these trick after trick after trick.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
So of course, yeah, it was so rad.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
That's so rare.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
I've never had a friend that was into magic.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
Now I'm feeling like my life's not necessarily fulfilled yet.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Well now he's gonna have to teach me how to
do magic, and then I'll be the friend that that's
your magic friends.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
Yes, oh my gosh, so fun.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
It's in the title of the show. For God's sakes,
one of us has to be magical. I'm telling true.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Well we figure it out again.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I'll maybe I get to saw you in half or something.
It'll be kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
But thank you everybody so much for joining us in
this Park Copper episode.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Thank you Adam for joining us.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Uh yeah, and go check out Under Wraps if you
want to see an absolutely bonkers, very first dcom. Ever,
it's over on our other feed or breakdown of it,
because it is absolutely worth it. It's a good movie,
just a weird dcom and I think that's fair to say.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
He agrees, Yeah for sure. But yeah, and also, Tennis,
next time, I.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Feel like we got to watch the newer one now too.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
We'll have to get there.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
We'll do Under Wraps two and then this time it's
personal and then other wraps three someone changed the rap
or whatever it's called. But yeah, I'm so curious to
see what the new if it's the same movie just disnified.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
Yes, which is what it sounds like. As far as
what he's saying, it seems like that would be it.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
So we will definitely put that on the list because
we got to do that.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
But the next one on our list over on our
other feed is Twitches to t of course, we are
going to check out the second installment of.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
The Mowery Halloween Extravaganza.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
We were coming into Spooky Town, so spooky Town, spooky time, spooky,
it's all spooky.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
So we've got a bunch that I'm sure we're going
to get through.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
We still have like nineteen Halloween towns to do as well,
so we will get there. Just stick with us, and
thanks again everybody for joining us, and we will see
you next time.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Bye.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Hey,