Starring Alyson Stoner as Caitlyn Gellar in "Camp Rock 2"

Alyson Stoner joins Will and Sabrina to talk about their time in "Camp Rock 2", growing up on Disney Channel and more! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Sabrina, we got a really fun one today.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I don't even want to do too big an intro
because we have so much we have to talk about
with our guests.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm really excited about this.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
This one's going to be amazing, really so much to
talk about.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
I have a ton of questions.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
But I also was going to text you because I
figure with your background, you you, the two of you
are going to have so much to talk about that
I'll probably just be interjecting a question here or there.
But we're not going to make you wait anymore because
today we are so excited. Technically, our guest today is
from Camp Rock, but they have done so much more

(00:48):
than just Camp Rock that I can't wait to talk.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
I can't wait to talk to them and continuing and
continuing and starting kind of a new venture too. I mean,
there's just so much to talk about.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
It's my favorite. So so okay, please help us. Welcome
Alison Stoner.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'm good? How are you.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
Hanging in there? It has been a rapid fire round
of conversations.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
How are you doing like.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yes, a book campaign?

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yes, this is I think this is somewhere between sixty
seven and sixty eight of seventy five.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Wow, well that's I'm glad we got slot how many
people are getting to like no more? I mean, I
will tell you I spent quite some time over the
week going through all of your Instagram content. There's such
a mix of things to really lock into of all
the things you're doing. But I have to say, one
of the things I'm most excited about is this book.

(01:49):
I really can't wait to read it. It's got me
hook line sinker, ready to go, can't wait to hear
all the things.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
I'm sure we will all have a lot to discuss.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Well, you know, so here's the thing, then, why don't
we start with the book.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
There's a beautiful book right behind you, So why don't
we start with the book, because then we are going
to dive very deeply into the world of camp Rock.
And my favorite thing in the world is Step Up franchise.
So yeah, we'll get into it, I promise you.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Allison. So can you tell us a little bit about
the book? How did you decide to write it, how
did it come about? Just everything? Please?

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yes, And it's so nice to see you both, and
I know it's been so many years.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Of working on the channel and with all of these
different wonderful people on the project.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
So it's neat to be able to revisit all of
these memories with people who were there. And yes, I
you know, I recognized that I had been journaling about
all of these experiences growing up. I have a box
full of over fifty journals with stark details, and there

(03:00):
was this vivid capturing of the experience at the time.
And then many years later, I'm now a mental health
practitioner and I get to revisit these early experiences and
reflect on how different events shaped me and all of
the different relationships with people, and you know, these some

(03:21):
of the most beautiful people I met, how they helped
me become the person I am today. And so I
wanted to be able to not only deliver some of
these juicy, intimate, never before shared stories from sets growing up,
but I also then got to thinking, well, wait a second,

(03:41):
experiences that once were reserved for folks like us who
work in the public eye are actually now things that
anyone with a Wi Fi connection and a social media
profile are dealing with, things like parasocial relationships with strangers
and maybe you know, canncerns around a loss of privacy

(04:02):
if everything we do and say is now captured for camera.
So I wanted to surface some really hopefully timely conversations
about just navigating the world in twenty twenty five and
how unexpectedly experiences as a child performer can actually potentially
apply to what many of us are going through, whether

(04:22):
you're in the industry or not.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well, first of all, as somebody who's dealt with a
pretty serious mental health issue since I was twenty two,
it's amazing to hear anybody come out and talk about it,
but especially somebody who has grown up in the public
eye and has gone through some of the same things.
I mean, I know that it's certainly gender roles play
a big difference in how you grow up in the industry,

(04:46):
so growing up.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
As a young man was certainly different.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
But at the same time, especially in the nineties, no
one was talking about the mental.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Health struggles that we were going through.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
So now that we're more open to be able to
discuss it, it's wonderful that people like you are out
there in the forefront and really helping to lead the charge.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
So, as somebody who deals with thank you so much
for that.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
But one of the other things that I've noticed with
my two of my best friends, because Sabrina is rapidly
becoming one of them. Two of my best friends on
the other podcast I do Podmet World, Danielle and Ryder
and I it's it's sometimes difficult to look back at
yourself critically, but it's also you're looking at you. You

(05:29):
talk about your journals, which must be amazing to have
that kind of insight to what it was like to
be a child, as opposed to when we're looking at it,
it's almost like we're watching somebody else. We talk about
watching somebody on screen and it's like, yes, that's me.
It looks like me, it's my mannerisms, it's my voice,
but it doesn't necessarily reflect who I was or what
I remember of the time. So, did you have a

(05:51):
difficult time when you were opening the journals kind of
going back putting yourself in that moment and then writing
right away. Did you need help with kind of sorting
out what was going on or were you able to
just jump right into it.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
What was fascinating is that you know, our memories tend
to cling onto just a few aspects of an experience, for.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Better or worse.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
And when I opened the journals, it rounded out the
memory with all of this other context that I had omitted,
and some of it was just kind of fun and
silly to see.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Like, oh, yeah, why did I care about.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Which limited to outfit I was wearing that day? You know,
and things that I felt like dire to my twelve
year old self. And now I'm like, oh, okay, you're
just sorting through some identity questions or wanting to fit in.
But then there are other aspects where you know, I'm
revisiting something from the set of Camp Rock or the

(06:48):
set of Cheaper by the Dozen, and I fully forgot that,
you know, this kind of thing happened, and it's it
was fascinating to recollect these pieces. And when a memory
felt like it was just one puzzle piece, suddenly now
I was starting to see that full picture again, and

(07:09):
that helped me immerse myself in the memory to really
pull forward what qualities of the experience I wanted to
convey in the manuscript. And actually I ended up writing
many of the lines that you see as my inner
monologue in the book are based on real lines from

(07:32):
those journals.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
Yeah, which is very vulnerable. It's avable choice.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Also, I'm kind of like like I'm somebody who never, ever,
I really never delete text messages and things that just
come in purely, purely just out of being lazy. I
just don't. I'm not somebody who cleans up my you know,
my my phone up much. But like sometimes I'm like,
oh no, look on, look at on April seventh, you

(07:59):
said this here, I haven't read kind of like were
you able to do anything like when you had maybe
sometimes like a disagreement or just something funny like and
they're like, no, that's how it went down, And you're like, oh, yes,
I wrote it down.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
Well, actually something that just happened.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
I was on the phone with I Love saying her
full name Anna Maria Francesca and Riquez Perezta Tackle who
is in Camp Rock and actually now has a married name,
so there's one more word.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
Added to her name.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
But I don't know then.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Does she have a little girl? Yes, she was at
the premiere at Zombies. I think the little girl is
like it's so animated on the red carpet, like giving
just the best I mean, she was serving. It was
so cute, so cute.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Certainly she has a lot of inspiration to pull from
because Maria is so talented and we hadn't been in
touch for years, but because of the book coming out,
I wanted to make sure I reached out to different
people who are either named in the book or you know,
who are a part of the projects.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
And just say, hey, like, here's some context.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
I'm sharing things solely through my personal experience and should
you want to share and add to it, like, please
feel free to do so.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
But she reminded me, which I don't know if this
is too much tea, if I'm allowed to say this,
but we'll try it. Yes, I think this is okay
to say. I've never spilled these beans before.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
But on the set of Camp Rock, because it was
such a rapid rehearsal period and I was flying in
i think a few days later than the other actors
for the song we Rock, which is supposed to be
the full ensemble, they never had me actually record anything.

(09:53):
Oh so I had to just learn the song in
rehearsal and lipsick.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
Just someone else's voice.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Really, Oh man.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
That memory came forward and I was like, oh, yeah,
that's right, that's not even my voice. I have been
asked to sing that song a bajillion times since it's Yeah.
Later on, we you know, went on tour and we
did get to you know, the mics were on and
we did get to perform. But yeah, I was like, oh,

(10:28):
that's like a tidbit that when you're in the thick
of it, you're just going, going, going, and you make
everything work and you adapt and you know. She also
reminded me of some other things. But that's her story
to tell, So you have to.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Have a get We won't absolutely have her The bottom
of her zoom is going to be this long with
her name on the on the bottom.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
That's going to be okay. So is the book out
right now?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yes, August twelfth, day after my birthday.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
It's a good time to have it come out, Queen
the same birthday your August eleventh. Yes, yes, August eleventh.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Oh my god, stay.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
In the world.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Maybe I knew that from googling when I was younger.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
What other people have my birthday? And I'm pretty sure
your face popped up. This might be some trivia. Correct
me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Are you one of the longest standing talent for the
Channel ever?

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Me?

Speaker 5 (11:24):
Yeah, because I think I have been assigned.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
That record, okay, or but I think you've maybe.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
Been a part of the channel longer than I have.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
I mean, I don't know, it was.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
It depends on what they would say is the start,
because I started, I jumped from Nickelodeon.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
I was on Nickelodeon from.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Nineteen eighty six eighty seven to like I got slimed,
So I was original Nickelodeon Wow to like the nineties
to ninety two, I think, And then I started Boy
Mets World, which was ABC Disney in ninety three, and
so I think they then put for me trolled on

(12:04):
ABC Disney, and then Kim Possible started ninety nine two thousand.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I think, so, yeah, it's possible. I mean again, it's possible.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
But you you're certainly more recognizable as one of the
faces of the channel than I was.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Well, well, I would say it's a tie. I'm gonna
give it a tie. You guys both have just these
your faces pop up you can name and I mean
it's like Bau, I mean you're in there too.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, Sabrina you're in the mix too.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
You're a cheetah girl for God's sakes, I mean, come, Actually,
I think.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
With you, Allison, there's just so many projects. Like I
think of Mike Super Short Show, that's the one I
met you on. I think now especially with the is
It revival they're bringing it back with Phenius verb Like,
I think like that that's a huge one. I mean
Camp Rock, of course, I mean, but then it's like,
well then we got to go to Missy Elliott, and

(12:59):
then we got to go.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
To let's not jump jump ahead, Let's.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
There's just so many things that your your face comes
to the screen. Mine is like Cheetah Girls and Dancing
with the Stars.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
No, and also the Disney Channel games, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
There's there's Yellow Team, but check out semi well adjusted.
I know I am going to be because I'm sure
there's going to be a lot of things in there
that are going to resonate for from one child actor
to another.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
That is the way it is. But let's go back
to your origin story.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yes, so how did you decide or did the business
aside for you to become an entertainer where I think
you were born in Toledo, Ohio. Correct, And when you
were growing up, did everybody just constantly talk about Corporal
Clinger and Jamie Farr from Mash who's from.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Okay, I'm just checking. So how did you get into
the entertainment?

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Well, I think what happened was I was just tagging
along to my sister's dance training and it was probably
more convenient to drop off two out of three kids
in the same location at the same time. But also
we were we were a sports family. We loved to
be active in any way, shape or form, and so

(14:23):
I took to dancing and that was at three years old.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
So there's not a lot of career goals emerging at
that time.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
You hadn't mapped out your life yet. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
No, I had napped out my life, but I apped nice.
And then by six I was already competing with this
dance studio and there was this separate convention that came forward,
or you know, an opportunity emerged.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
To go to New York.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
And I had no idea that it was a talent
recruitment funnel for performers to then fly to Los Angeles
and meet agents and pursue the industry. Like we're talking
Midwest family, zero ties to Hollywood, zero aspirations of being famous.
Dirt under my fingernails, and I still have.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
Dirt under my finger nails.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
But now, twenty bajillion years later, I have been in
the industry, and I think it was some version of
a case of quote unquote beginner's luck in that, relatively speaking,
once I started auditioning, I did book a job fairly soon,

(15:42):
And what that did was just microwave the process of
decision making for my family, Like instead of is this
a fun hobby? Is this a temporary interest, it was suddenly,
do you want to sign this contract and relocate the
entire family? Do you want to pull Alison out of school?

(16:04):
So you know I could be in these other training programs,
Like there were life altering decisions being made at a
rapid speed, and of course, you know, we had zero
idea what we were getting into. But I think my
first one of my first jobs was a Hallmark Disney

(16:25):
commercial and I got to film at the amusement park
and I just remember being like, if this.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Is working, like right, I can't wait.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
To have a job and be a grown up because
this is the best thing ever.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
So hard to beat that.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Entry point, Yeah, I'll say so, then did what did
they decide? Did your whole family move out to Los Angeles?

Speaker 4 (16:50):
We flew back and forth for about nine months, and
eventually my two sisters, my stepfather, and my mother we
all relocated to the Greater La area, and then my
biological dad stayed in Ohio alongside all of our extended family.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
And for a while we.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Were able to fly back and forth here and there.
And you know, over time it became tougher and tougher.
Because it sounds bizarre to say it, of course, but
you know, at nine, ten and eleven years old, I
had a full work schedule.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah great, Wow, where were you training now that you're
in La Did you find like a dance studio or
were you at Millennium? And what was that before Moral Landis?
Were you in studio?

Speaker 5 (17:40):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (17:42):
I don't know if this is right.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I told Sabrina before we came out, I'm like you,
the two of you are going to have a language.
I'm not going to understand. So I'm going to sit
back and just listen. And we're getting into it now.
Are these studios?

Speaker 3 (17:53):
So Moral Landis was gosh? I mean you probably were
there because you were so. I mean the kids that
I when I was I started in the dance part
of the industry and there was a group of us
that would all go in Wade Robson, who I don't
know if you know that choreographer name will I mean,
he was gigantic and he was young. He was like

(18:15):
sixteen seventeen, found by Michael Jackson back in the day,
brought to the States with his mom and he was choreographing,
and eventually he became some of the most epic you know,
MTV moments with Britney spears or in sync were all
done by any documentary was he was talking about, Yes,

(18:36):
and so at the time he would come at like
sixteen seventeen and the Millennium and more Orlandis. I want
to say the Moorlandis was the Millennium before it was
the Millennium, Am I right? Am I right?

Speaker 2 (18:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Are they two different things?

Speaker 4 (18:50):
He's the one to fact check that, Okay, I do know.
By the time I was out here in two thousand,
the Millennium had this room called the the Dome. Yes,
the artists of all artists went to rehearse and the
choreographers would teach their master classes.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
And yeah, this was packed.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
I'm telling you. We were so wet.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
It was like you know, picture Zumba but.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Like LA dancers, and they would there weren't always classes
that they like, not every main instructor would allow kids
to come in too, so there was only like Wade
was a great one because he was young, so he
was of course wanting his kids, like other kids to
come in and get the training. But like we would
kind of even I just remember being so little against
like adults full out dancing and me still just trying

(19:42):
to like battle not battle, but you know, you're like
you're getting inspired by the person next to you. You're
just going as hard as you can and you're just
ripping sweat. And so that was a that was a
really great thing. Is that where you were kind of
going or were you still trying to find that classical stuff?
I mean, for me, that was an addition to what
I was doing back here in Orange County with my

(20:03):
like regular studio, AH.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
The OC, the good old Yes.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
You know, I will say because of the Missy Elliott
video that shifted my dance training tremendously.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
I thought that I would be going more.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Of you know, ballet tap jazz path but suddenly this
concept of commercial choreography came into focus and uh, and
also it was informed by hip hop culture, which I
knew nothing about, but suddenly was like.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
My quote unquote trademark style.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Because of the whole world video.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
So I think that's when I thought, I need to
get into class, and yes, I need to go to Millennium,
I need to go to some of these studios like
Debbie Reynolds and The Edge and you know, all of
these different spaces where literally tens of thousands of movers
would flock from all around the world and just spend
all day a long eight hours ten hours, either rehearsing

(21:03):
or training. And it's wild to me because dances like this,
it's often kind of put put in the in the background,
literally a background dancer to an artist, but so many
pieces of art actually rely on dancers to truly.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
You know, bring it to life.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Like I think about different concerts where I'm like, y'all,
I know that some of those dancers were hardly even
getting paid, right, but like, without.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Without them, what would the show been?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Right?

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yes, yeah, especially with an artist that can't really move,
which not every artist has to move, but if you
get some amazing dancers behind them, you don't really need
them to move. They can just kind of do their
thing and the show is still awesome because the dancers
and just thinking about like when you're when when an

(21:55):
when an anthem of a of a of a song
comes on from that art, it's like that artist's anthem.
When you've got the dancers just bringing that energy, like
even if it's a moment where that the crowd is
kind of settled, they they're the ones that are really
helping get them off their feet and keep that energy
of a concert going. I mean, I can't get enough.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
I'm learning. I'm learning about dance. I'm learning about dance.
I'm trying, Like you love step Up?

Speaker 5 (22:20):
What is that about?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Okay? Well, step up is not you talk about art
step up? The entire Step Up franchises are. They're not films,
their art all the way around.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
We also, I do, I absolutely do any step up,
a stomp, the yard, a sticket. I will be in
like a there's a dance night before, waiting to forget it.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
You and I have two strange connections.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
One is I think we were both in the Kingdom
Hearts games, Oh yes, which are fun, And the other
is the producer of the Step Up films, David Nick Say,
his daughter Lily is the one who played our little
sister on Boy Mets World for the first two seasons.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Oh wow, isn't that strange?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, so the little of the first Morgan who ended
up unfortunately getting getting fired at five or six years
old because she just didn't want to be there. When
we got picked up for our back nine in front
of the audience, she started crying and yelling, I don't
want to do this anymore, and so it was a
good thing to let her go. But her dad was
a big producer, and he ended up producing all.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Of the Step Up films. That's my strange to you
as we have those.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
But oh man, the step Well, we'll get to step
up because that's gonna be the next hour and a
half of the conversation.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
I'm kidding.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
But when you first were coming out here, were you
coming out primarily to dance or were you coming out
to act?

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Or was it just coming out to entertain?

Speaker 3 (23:35):
I thought that.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
First of all, I was a child, so I didn't
know what I was doing. I was following the flow
and just.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
Saying yes to whatever the folks around me asked me
to do.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
I knew that dance was my first love. But when
I signed with an agent, and I learned about all
of these different categories from TV to commercial to print
and soddenly you had this, you know, array of representatives
submitting your headshot to.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
Do these things, and then you learned about the things the.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Special skills list on your resume and you realize.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Can't half of those.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
You're like, oh, I have to learn how to play
the moroccas just in.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Case, just in cases.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
Yeah, it's like, oh, a big old justice.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
I'm a pro botchy ball player.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
I can ride horses while doing all dialects apparently, so
pretty happy with that exactly.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
So I think I think, you know, I was only
six or seven years old, but this explosion of options
just kind of yeah, it widened my tunnel vision from
just dance to now, well maybe it could be singing, maybe.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
It could be acting.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
And what's interesting, I don't know how, you know, everyone
has very different pathways in the industry.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
I found it. I think something that.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
That was helpful and worked in my favor overall was
that simultaneously I booked Missy Elliott and then I was
also doing Mike Super Short Show for Disney Channel.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Was that was that the first Disney thing I think so.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
And it was except for the commercial, except for the
Hallmark Disney commercial right because.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
There was there was We've got that so Raven episodes,
Drake and Josh Sack and Cody was that was that
the first thing.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
I think Mike's came first as my kind of series
regular role, recurring role, and then to complete the trifecta,
I had my first film, Cheaper by the Dozen, and
so I felt really fortunate that each of those reached different.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
Audiences, different communities.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Uh, some overlap, but it created this really fun experience
where you know, if someone came up to you, you
just had no idea which one they were gonna say,
you know, like I Love you from and it was
like you're either the little white girl from Missy video,
You're Sally, or you're Sarah Baker who soaked Ashton Kutcher's
underwear and meat, and you just have to wait it

(26:17):
out what someone's gonna say.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
And so that was that, I think in terms of,
you know, the.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
Risk of getting pigeonholed as just one type. Sure, I
definitely fell into, you know, like the sarcastic tomboy roles,
and that was a reflection I think of just who
I was as a kid. Yes, but I also think
it left some room, some wiggle room for me to
be able to dig into, you know, different artistic spaces

(26:45):
that maybe, you know, other folks didn't get a chance
to do right away because they were, you know, focused.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
On just one aspect or one project.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
I mean, but obviously there are pros and cons to everything,
because the fact that you were being a lead in
a d com, being a series regular on a show
that was like the coveted of all coveted kinds of roles.
So it's I'm honored to be in Royalties Company.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
That's so funny.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
So interestingly, when again, when we talk on pod Meets
World about when somebody does come up and recognize us.
Getting recognized from Boy Mets World is wonderful, but when
they say Podmeats World, there's kind of a separate pride
to it because it's something that we created. So when
somebody would come up to you, is there one that
they would say to you that would give you a

(27:48):
different feeling than the others, Like if they say cheaper
than by the dozen, would that feel different than the
Missy Elliott video?

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Or I mean, which one was kind of like yours.
If that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Oh well, it's this book That's what feels markedly different.
Because I've been writing privately since I was younger, and
I've gone on to you know, script some digital series,
and when I produce content for my mental health company,
I'm helping carve out you know, those scripts and formats.

(28:21):
But the book, ninety thousand words strung together with my
best attempt at articulating an entire life experience that registers
in such a different way than someone saying like, yeah,
we loved your character and there's space for both.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
Right, you just get told multiple truths.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
But if someone says they love Sarah Baker for me,
I kind of feel like, oh, I get to love
Sarah too, because Sarah wasn't just me. It was the
wardrobe team that put me in that frog hat was
the writer who decided to have.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
Sarah behave in the way she does. Whereas of the book,
I'm like, yeah, this is inescapable. Whether you like it
or not, that's on me.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
I love that. Who was there anyone that was encouraging
you to write? Because I know my dad told me
probably a billion times on all of the things I
was doing. Are you journaling, and I'd be like, yeah,
I'm journaling, dad, And I never was Who was there
anyone that was encouraging you or was that something like
you just you just kind of wanted to do.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
I think that was a self initiated coping strategy.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
Actually, I know that now.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
I have a career path that involves a lot of
external processing, a lot of outgoing interactions, But my core
self is highly introverted, and I've always sat at home
mulling over concepts and ideas, and writing was the only

(30:08):
medium where I could be alone but still have a
relationship to the thoughts, Like once I got them on
the page, then I could interact with them differently, almost
like I was in conversation with the page, but as
an introvert, I got.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
To still be alone.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
It was a win win, And initially the thoughts came
through as lyrics, so I started with poetry. Even around
seven years old. My mom would collect these sheets of
paper and these you know, rhymes here and there, and
she put them into a folder one day and said,

(30:45):
do you want to do anything with this? Like is
this something you also want to try out? And at
the time I just I had no idea what that
could mean later on, seeing that you know, every Disney
Channel actor suddenly a triple threat.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
I was like, oh, I guess I'm a musician.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
But writing has always actually been like a very precious
and sacred private experience. So that added all the more
intensity to deciding to share Yeah everything.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Yeah, I mean, I commend you because I really kille
you know, Keiley, she also wrote all the time, and
I just always would be like in my head, going,
what if someone found that book? And yes, I'm going
to keep them right here, no one can no one
can can lock into here. I'm going to keep those
things right here because someone can find it. So it's

(31:45):
it was a scary thing for me too, you know,
like just kind of put those thoughts down. I think
like that's just so brave of you to put them down.
And now you're even going that that big step of
just letting everyone in. I mean, but I think you're
going to get the best results. I really do. I
know how excited I am. I think you're just going
to get such incredible results. Really, I hope that it.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
You know, maybe you show up for the childhood stories,
that you stay for this larger commentary where where everyone
who reads or listens is invited to reflect on their
own childhood, their own healing journey, what it means to
navigate the world here as a human being interacting with

(32:30):
you know, even just our tech devices. I'm like, y'all,
this is we are, it's a this is not how
things were even when y'all were.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
On the channel like life has made.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yes, that's one of.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
The reasons I don't do social media at all, because.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
It's just support.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
I can't wait, anxiety driven. Yeah, it's just I can't.
I can't do check it out. I haven't had it
in five years now, and the day I raced it
was one of the best days of my life.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Just this weight just goes ook. And I didn't say
anything to any followers. I didn't.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I just deleted everything and never and I didn't just
remove the apps.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
I deleted everything. I don't have any accounts, I don't
have it. And it's the best. Wow, really is the best? Yeah?
Oh so yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Nothing was more conducive to my mental health journey than
just And it's funny because I tell people when I
talk about it myself, they'll say, well, what really helped you?
I say, there's three things and the first two they're
like yes, yes, and I get to the third one
they go, well, So the first one, I say is
the easiest thing was talking about it. The second you
start actually talking about it with other people, it makes
the journey easier. The second was diet and exercise, and

(33:36):
the third was deleting social media. So everyone's like, yes,
I can do that, Yes, I can do that. Well,
I need social media for my work, And I go,
where do you work at a bank? Like, Okay, you
don't need social media for your work. You're just addicted
to social media. That's two very different things. So yeah,
anything you can do to get that weight off the shoulders.
And so it sounds like writing for you is one

(33:57):
of those things where you get a chance to kind
of take that burden, put it on the page, and
then go all right, everybody else kind of deal with this.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
For a little while. I'm not going to hold it anymore.
Which is, do you have.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Any pages whether it's in your the book or not,
but in your journals? When you were going back about
Zach and Cody in your time on Sweet Sweet Life, Yeah,
because you're pretty close to their age, right.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
I think I might be making this up, So it's
either Taylor Loudner, so the twins.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
I think their birthday. I knew this at one point.
It's either August fourth or August eighth.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
It's close.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
Yeah, right, Cole was born on the fourth.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
I think Dylan.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
BitLocker, extra crispy.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
But and then Taylor Loudner is my half writ so
he's born on February eleventh.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
I remember, okay, Matt Lawrence as well, February eleventh, Matt Lawrence.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, got a Lawrence boy in there too. People sharing birthdays.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Yes, I do talk about my experiences on Sweet Life.
I don't mention this part, but it is a fond memory,
the fact that I grew up playing basketball in Toledo,
and you know, my character Max was like classic, well

(35:18):
maybe queer coded.

Speaker 5 (35:18):
I don't know if I'm allowed to say that.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Of course you are, Okay, she was, you know, playing
on some kind of co ed team with the twins.
And I remember, obviously, when you're on a sitcom, the
art department is building and reconfiguring these temporary sets, and
they had to build out some version of a basketball court,

(35:44):
but the flooring was not you know what.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
You would find in a Gymnasium.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
It was like some vinyl limsy peelings.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
So it didn't squeak.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
I'm sure, I'm sure it didn't. Know the basketball court
squeak so badly. It's probably for a sound, right, And.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
I remember, you know, just being self conscious about my
baller skills and being like, the ball is not bouncing
in the way that it would like, is my ball
handling going to look different on camera? Will I be
able to complete this uh play with the kind of
precision that my coach would be proud of.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
But it was there like, we really don't care. Just
bounce it twice.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
Bounce it twice and get me through.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
More worried about your lines, Allison than if you're going
to hit hit the pickoff vot you hit your block, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
And it was I think I don't think Dylan and
Cole were basketball players.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
I doubt it, no.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Of course, I'm sure.

Speaker 6 (36:49):
Yeah yeah, But I was like, oh man, I hope
we all look like a legitimate team uh in the
in post production and it all ended up going smoothly.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
I have to this day never been made fun of
for my basketball playing skills.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
On good that's good, that's good.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Win Okay, So one of the reasons why you're here
is because we just are.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Now we just watched the second Camp Rock.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yes, so we're we're two camp Rocks in I think
there's only two camp Rocks.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
If I know, is this one's called the Final.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
The Final Jam, The Final Jam.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
So which which surprised me because of how big the
cast was in all of your levels of like stardom,
that they were cutting it off at it at two.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Well, they might have known with the Jonas brothers and
with Demi Levado that it's like, we're not getting a
third film out of there.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Okay, So, I mean that would be my guess.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
I guess they were just all the way onto their
own series and tours.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
And tours and everything else.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
So when did you first hear about Camp Rock as
a project and did you have to audition or were
they just like, hey, come do this movie.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
Oh my gosh, if only that would be so nice
to just wake up and book a.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
No. I auditioned for everything that I did on the channel.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
I mean, no matter how many shows I did for them, I.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Was like everything, they never threw you a job. Just hey,
this is kild No.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
I will say is for what was going to become
a pilot for my own show that I did not
audition for because I was approaching them from you know,
a developmental standpoint, but otherwise, yes, I was. I was
on the first calls going like, hey, it's me again,

(38:46):
their longtime friend.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
They're like, can you slate? And You're like really, yeah, right,
like Judy Taylor, you can study. We have not had
Judy on, but we absolutely want to get her on
because she would have. I mean, it would just be
so great to chat with her of like what it
was like to be literally at day one of all
these projects, like how unreal? Right?

Speaker 5 (39:12):
So with Camp Rock, I actually share a lot about
the Camp Rock experience in the book. Okay, so I'll
share some moments here.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Yeah, did you audition for just one part or did
you audition for multiple parts of the movie?

Speaker 5 (39:30):
Okay, you know how it goes.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
I went in for Mitchie, I went in for Caitlin. I. Yes,
it is very common to go out for all kinds
of parts. And I remember, so, you know, most of
us young performers have if we're considered quote unquote triple threats,
usually there's one domain where we feel most confident and

(39:58):
so I remember, of course for me, like, oh, I'm
definitely the dancer out of this bunch, so let me
go full out and show them.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
Just in case they forgot from the Missy video what
I can do. And then right.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
After we had the singing portion, and that's where while
I had been training and you know, I was ready
to sing, I still would get so nervous. And I
remember hearing other people like Anne, Maria and Demi and
Megan going in and just like beautifully wailing, and.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
I was like, I have to way, held on, I
have to follow that or are you sure?

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Like maybe what am I gonna do here? And I
don't remember the song I sang, but it went all right.
It turns out for the first movie, I didn't need
to sing anyway, but they did in the second one
have me go in and record, which was that was
really special. I had a you know, just a couple
of lines here and there opposite Jonas.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
Yeah, it was nice to be like, oh, our voices
blend nicely together. I feel like I'm a part of
the crew. But it was a lengthy audition.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Process, and then once you you know, flew to Canada
to film, then it was.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
Like off to the races.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Uh. And ironically where we filmed Camp Rock is where
we filmed Cheaver by the Dozen.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Oh really, that would make so much sense.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
Yeah. So I would have slashbacks where I would.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
See like the camp supposed to be like the mess hall,
and then I would look to the right and see
the water, and I would picture Steve Martin and all
of us like rowing across the water trying to get
my older sister Piper pair boat to the hospital to
give birth.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
In that scene, Oh my god, you're confusing movies.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
You're dancing around Steve Martin, Like, why aren't you dancing
with me?

Speaker 6 (41:53):
Rock here?

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Okay, so that does bring me something Like I said,
I was, I went through just I mean, it was
it felt like I was recon acting with you, going
through your Instagram and seeing just you know, obviously everything
you're up to, and then listening to some of the
things that you talk about about with the book and
one of the things and I know it's in the book,
if you could just talk a little bit about because
it's interesting to me that you know, going into Camp

(42:16):
Rock one, it's fair to say, especially on both acting
obviously dancing and like stage performing, you had a lot
you were a heavy lifter going on too, as far
as in the cast, as far as being in so
many Disney stuff. You had cheaper by the dozen, you had,

(42:37):
you know, experience, so much experience compared to you know,
some of the other members of your cast. But you
mentioned on your Instagram that you were still like very
nervous and you didn't feel comfortable. You didn't feel like
you were you know, like you just that shocked me
to hear. I'm like going you would think that someone

(43:00):
with your experience would be walking on the set being like,
come here, girl, let me let me show you how
let me just give you a tip here and there,
or all right, hey Joe, come on over here, let
me help you with this.

Speaker 6 (43:12):
Right.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
Can you imagine me giving line readings to.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Im not saying you were you were I know you
were in no way ever, you know, just over the
top like that. But I just it's crazy to think
how much experience you had going into this movie that
you also had a lot of like self doubt and
or or insecurities or you know, I mean, I think
part of that's just being the age that you were at,
you know, and being in a group of new people

(43:38):
and stuff too. But that was shocking to me because
I'm like, oh, my gosh, how much talent you just
had in this pitty body that you could ever be
not just like ready to burst out, just it really
it really surprised me.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
Well, I I think what you're naming is that professionally
I competent. I felt, you know, capable of taking on
whatever the work related responsibility was. Socially, I didn't spend
a lot of time around people my age unless we

(44:14):
were competing in auditions or they were kind of fan
interactions where I'm sort of in customer service mode and
making sure that I deliver on whatever the.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
Request is, if it's a photo, if it's a shout
out to your third cousin.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
And so I think being around young people it was
in some ways like entering a school experience that I
will never have in real life, but to see just
how you know, when you're that age, everyone is developing

(44:53):
in such different ways at such different paces, and we're
all technically experimenting with our first sense of self still.
But we were in this you know, container where we
were all playing characters. So when I was in character mode,
it was like, yeah, I know exactly what to do
here on the camera's call cut and you see people

(45:16):
bonding just over any kind of shared interest. That's when
all of the insecurities flooded forward, and I thought, oh,
I've kind of been busy working on sets.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
Not to say that the other kids weren't.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
Also working on different jobs and that we didn't have
a lot of shared experiences, but there were some elements
where I was like, you all seem like you know
stuff about the world that I have not been exposed to,
and I don't.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
Know what to say, do think feel here?

Speaker 4 (45:49):
And now suddenly this concept of wanting to be cool
is involved, and Demi in particular, I think, is like
the epitome of cool kid. You know, she just she
was the kind of person I imagine when we all had
different meetings with record labels or not that we were

(46:10):
all doing that. Sorry, I wasn't out just like shopping
my music around and everyone wanted it.

Speaker 5 (46:15):
Let me be clear, I was like, knocknock, knock, please please, can.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
I get a meeting?

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Yeah, But like with different people in the industry, I
think this is my perception, but when they saw someone
like Demi, it was like she had such a clear
point of view on the world and on what she
wanted to say, how she wanted to dress, whereas I
was this chameleon who just wanted to be open to
being shaped by anyone for any means, didn't have a

(46:43):
sense of.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
Who I was. And sure that helps with.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
Acting sometimes, but musicianship, where DEMI said, no, this is
what I want to sing, and you know I want
that kind of rock guitar in the track, Like I
had so much admiration for a young person who felt
so solid about how she wanted to show up in

(47:08):
the world.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
And yeah, I mean I just I had no sense.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
I still don't have a sense of fashion. I have
to work with a professional to know what shirt to
put on for a book campaign.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
But you know, it's like I was, so.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
I can help with that. By the way, just own
three shirts.

Speaker 5 (47:29):
I do.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Brain so simple. Buy three shirts at Target when they
wear out by three more. It's the world.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
But it did seem like when you guys all showed
up and we will I'm not jumping ahead, will before
you yell at me, But when we all showed up
at the Disney Channel games, it did seem like you
guys definitely had all of you as a cast, had
a tight bond, had a really great chemistry. It seemed

(47:58):
like you guys had so much fun filming good.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
So you're we're we don't want to keep you for
too much longer because we know you have another three
hundred and fifty five interviews.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
But one of the things we're really learning in the
research is that it seemed like shooting Camp Rock one
and shooting Camp Rock two, for a number of different reasons,
were very different experiences. Yeah, did you do you get
into that in the book, because again, I don't want
to give anything super away in the book, but let's
we'll stick to one very easy.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
One, which is the weather.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
I hear the weather itself had to become essentially a
character in the movie because it's supposed to be summer
and then they have you shooting in autumn.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
It's raining, correct, and it's cold.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
I mean, we heard one story about dancers falling, like
slipping on the and getting hurt as they're as they're
doing this stuff. So how did the first and second
movie differ in shooting just when it comes to the weather.

Speaker 5 (49:07):
That's a great question, And yes, I go into deep
detail about the differences between both projects.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
But in terms of the weather, I vividly remember working
It was an overnight shoot, a couple of them, maybe
in a row, but certainly at least one night, and
I think the temperatures were freezing. I think we were
in freezing temperatures and it was supposed to be a

(49:38):
summer scene. So I think wardrobe had to make an
executive decision to actually change some of our outfits or
give us another layer, because if I remember correctly, some
of our lips were turning blue. I mean we were truly,
like almost unable to move our limbs because we couldn't

(49:58):
generate enough heat between cakes.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
And people were getting mono.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
Yes, that's right.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
I mean people were getting sick. That's how cold it
was shooting this film.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
Yes, And and then it also rained, and I believe
this is where you know, you wish that all of
the teams in departments could have a moment to speak
with each other before decisions are made, because you know,
they had this really cool design. I think it was
a clear stage, but the material it was so so slippery,

(50:31):
and then suddenly it's raining, so yes, we had folks falling,
and you know, trying not to get injured. But I
remember running between each take to this one singular heat
source and and feeling so uh, you know, not actual jealousy,

(50:52):
but looking at the crew who's like bundled.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Bundled behind the cameras. They've got three sweatshirts on with
the thermal under and a big rain jacket.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
And these thick gloves and hand warmers on top of that.
These kids are just like, oh yeah. But ultimately, you know,
if I'm going to choose to look at the bright
side of that particular.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
Moment, we certainly bonded.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
Yeah, we had to get through that that shoot, and
and I think everyone was like, all right, y'all know
your steps, say your line.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Let's do Let's get this done as possible.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yeah, man, okay, well we we. I won't ask any
of the other stories because I know they're in the
book and I don't I don't want to ruin anything,
but I do want to wrap up with with I
think probably the most hard hitting question we're going to
throughout you all day.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Okay, favorite dcom of all time for you? Oh, I
told you we're ending dangerous questions. You can only pick one.
What is your favorite dcom and.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
If you get it wrong, don't worry. Well, we like
to have you come back on for the second part.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Yeah, we still have n to talk about with you.
We didn't even get into the step up stuff. Don't
get me started. I'm going to need your number because
I've got too many questions. But favorite dcom.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
Ever, I just need to rattle off a couple just
to figure out which one I want to go with.
So so, for whatever reason, I still think about the
commercial advertising smart.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
House, smart House, great young Kit. I think his name's
Ryan Mayn.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Merrimon, Merriman.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
Yes, you can't be our mother, Pat, You're not real.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
And then she goes, so and that's in the advertisement,
and it's forever in my head.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
So wow, Paul and film, another Paul Hoan film. He's
directed everything, So yeah, another one two?

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Yes, yes, we call them the dcom daddy, So yeah, And.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
Then I'm thinking of I loved Rank, that was cool.
I loved get a Clue, felt like I was.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
I got to be a spy with you.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Notice what you're doing is you're not answering the question
that I threw at you where I said.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
She said she has to list him out before she canmit.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
It's a difficult. It's so difficult. I know a couple.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
Oh okay, because then there's Double Teams.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Oh my god, oh Michayla. One of our producers is
screaming right now. I can I can't hear.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
I caught a little bit of ish because Double Team
was Because again, I'm watching these as like almost a
fifty year old man, some of them for the first time.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Ever, and I'm sitting there going, what is this like?

Speaker 2 (53:50):
And then I'm having I'm getting just inundated with people going.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
We are you kidding? Double Teams the best thing in
the world. So I have entered this world, and I.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Say this on all that off time you have, it
seems over there you just really aren't doing very much
over there. If you do have a moment where you
want to sit down, it is on Disney Plus. You
should rewatch it. You might change your mind a little bit.
Mine changed a tiny bit. I wavered, but thank you.
At the same time, the nostalgia of the film is.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Still I didn't have.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
So I'm watching all this minus nostalgia. I'm just watching them.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
As it's so funny because it is a huge one
people love. They're they're big fans of it, But what
are that we didn't really love watching that again?

Speaker 1 (54:39):
What if some of the you know, the ones that we.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Loved.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Color of Friendship was.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Incredible, Friendship was great, Going to the.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Matt, Going to the Matt was awesome with with Andy
Lawrence as the blind wrestler was.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Whisper with Andy Lawrence too.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
No, the other one we loved it was the Frankie
Munas As the Box was the the.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Our highest rated one yet Miracle and Lane two.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Miracle and Lane two? Do you remember that one?

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Yes, there's some really great ones out there and you.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Still haven't picked. So it's fine we didn't.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
We didn't. We did top five at the end of
season one, we couldn't even get down to top three.
So it is a tough, tough situation.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
I'll go with get a clue.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Okay, okay, have we watched that one yet?

Speaker 3 (55:30):
We have the Lindsay Lowan one? Then you get is
it Linda Loan one?

Speaker 1 (55:37):
All the songs?

Speaker 5 (55:39):
Yes, yes, Lindsay Lowan one.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Remember when she was a spy, she was a fashionista spy.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
We've watched it apparently, Yes, it's in my head.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
We watched one with Lindsay Lowes. Did we okay, yes,
so songs in it.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
I do remember this, okay, so.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Oh queen herself.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
After that movie, I wanted to buy spy.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Gear and that was the giant spy stuff you had
on the balcony.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Okay, yes, now I remember this movie there.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
They're also that was also during like a timeframe of
like Harriet the Spy was coming out. I think like
Cody banks ish right, like those were that was like
an era that was kids. Yes, that was like that
was an era. That's a good one.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Act.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
I get recognized for being Alexa Panaveca all the time.
Do you really are you the girl from Spy Kids?
And of course again I'm like expecting little Eric Baker
Sally and every time it's Alexa, I'm like.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
Oh, hon no, I feel like a letdown.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
I don't want to ruin your day, but he usually
go with it.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
Long network, but well, it's great.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
I also let you know on pod Mets World we
have just started a book club and we each get
to pick a book and read it and then we
discuss it. So I definitely see your book going on
the pod Meats World book Club and then you're gonna
have to come on and talk about it, so I
hope you don't mind.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Well, then I'm going to be a guest on it
because I'm not.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
No, we have so many we we got we have
like nine pages of questions. We got to I think
one and a half. So yeah, you're gonna have to
come back a whole bunch. I hope you don't mind.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
I'm okay with that, especially because we share the same birthday.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
So yeah, right, we're birthday buddies and that means something forever.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
So it does.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
And Chris Chris Hemsworth too. Really we've got four as well. Yeah,
we're we're we're doing pretty well.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
I thought I was good with Nick Jonas.

Speaker 5 (57:46):
Uh you have you share a birthday with Nick?

Speaker 3 (57:49):
I do, okay, I don't know every special people born
on special days. Guys, gonna throw it out there.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
It's true, It's true. August LA is a pretty special day.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
But let's everybody please go get semi well adjusted because
it sounds like it's incredible.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
I can't wait to read the story because.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Especially having like done some of the research on Camp Rock,
I want to read some of the stuff because again,
I know, we've heard from several people, just the very
simple statement that filming the first one and filming the
second one were two very different experiences.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
So not only that she talks up, she talks about
step up in those as well.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Well, that's yeah, I'm going to.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Be but I yeah, what do you get into.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
How Moose treated you? I don't even want to.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
I can't How do we Is there a special way?
Because I couldn't tell. I just saw the stuff on
your Instagram about you signing two thousand copies of this book?
Is there any way how do you get one of those?
Because I think that's the one I'm going to need
to get. Yay, Well, you.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
Do know someone me, I probably sign anything at any time.

Speaker 5 (58:58):
But you can find mind all of the links in
my bio on Instagram.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
I'm sure you can also google semi well adjusted Alison
Stoner and then it'll come up with different options if
you like to buy from a local bookshop or if
you like to buy, you know, purchase the audio book.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Yeah, she does the whole audiobook of it.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Oh you did it right? You did for your own.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Yes, which I'm sure is amazing because it's not always
great it's not always great, but yours is probably so good,
so good, so good to.

Speaker 5 (59:31):
Say, like after twenty years of being in the booth,
that's what I mean. It's pretty delicious to this.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Question. But it was.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
It had such a different dimension, and I actually I
enjoy this isn't just my bias. I think when you
read it, you get one experience. When you listen you
get a different experience. And so you know, I'm like,
if people actually want to dig in, like, I recommend
trying it both ways. And yeah, you can find it

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anywhere books are sold.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
So I want to autograph copy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
So amazing. Thank you so much for taking the time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Again. I know you're probably sick of people asking you
the same questions over and over. And it's like the
old school uh uh yeah, exactly. The old school junkets
were by the ninth Are there any pranks on the set?
You're like, Okay, I can't do this today.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
This is different. No one has asked me what my
favorite d com is? Okay, in quite this way. There
was another dcom question from People magazine.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
But we're better than people different. Notice she didn't agree
that we're better, She just said we're different.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Better. He's a professional over here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Yeah, they know what they're doing. Thank you Allison so much.
Thank you so much joining.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Us, and we can't wait to read the book and
everything you're doing. We are such big fans of yours
and we just want all the best for you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
And you have to come back because you have to
have you back many questions.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Yes, especially after like you get the sense of how
well this book is going to do. It's going to
be so great to have you back on and like
talk about like, oh my gosh, like this is a
whole new world. It really is for you. We're going
to add it to the list of the start. And
we didn't even talk about you going back out for
Miss Elliott's like her thing that recent performance you did

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for her. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
We're telling you you've done so much. We have so
much left to talk about.

Speaker 5 (01:01:29):
So you got options. I'll come back and visits soon.
It was great to see you both.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Bye bye.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
They have arguably one of the most interesting careers of
any child around this age.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Hands down, where there's not very many people that can
say like and they talked about it, how one of
the things that's very nerve wracking if anyone was like
managing a child actor was for them to not get
pigeonholes in this situation, like like as they talked about,
and that's not what happened to them at all. They know,

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it's like hands and this this section, this section apparently.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Yes, I know, they're just good at everything. So it's
but I know, but I talk about the step up
movies and the scenes that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
You gotta read her book because I don't think it
was a good experience for her. No, but you got
to read their book because I don't think it was
a good experience for them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
I know that would suck because I was I didn't
want to say it in front.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
I know, I mean because I went on their instagram
and kind of went through because I know they're really
big a part of the advocacy of like child acting,
and you know, and I wanted to kind of know
a little bit more because I was assuming they would
go into that during the interview and I across one

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of the videos, it's like, oh, it acludes to it
not being the greatest experience, but think about it being
that young on a set with a lot more mature
and it was mature acting for content. I'm sure it

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was a very it was great, a great.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Movie, but it's more than one. She's it's great. I
mean they've been in like four of them, three or
four of them.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Yeah, but also as a little little actor though not
mean Disney, so not as heightened. I mean we we've
talked about it and that and I we've talked about
it with a lot of actors. The great thing about
Disney is they were very particular on on how kids

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should be, you know, the timing, the school aspect of it,
the how long they can work. You know, they're i
mean they are like tip top shape of that stuff
to go on maybe another production.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Yeah, but it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Depended very channel in the eighties and early nineties so
much there and again they always treated their their talent
well I believe. But it was also one of those
things where at the time when I was a kid
Nickelodeon Disney, maybe you didn't always get you three hours
of school.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Maybe this happened.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
Maybe and that wasn't my experience.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
It was changed. No, it's changed quite a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Which it's changed, but I cannot just on a set
with young Disney actors and they that was the thing
they they say, still hate the most is the onset
onset schooling.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
But you gotta do it anyway, Please go check out
Allison's book. I cannot wait to read it because it
seems like they.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Have story after story after.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Story, and I hope they don't kind of like crush
my step up dreams.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
I think they might, so I want to prepare you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
That's fair because it was just.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
One small thing. I'm sure they talk a lot about
the great stuff of it, but I do think there
was a it was a difficult it was more difficult.
It seemed it was a more difficult situation.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
But it could have been.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Yes, but it could have been business wise, right, it
could have been I mean whatever, But I can't wait
to listen. I'm gonna do audio book on that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
But I also didn't want to ask them the same
questions that everybody's been asking, That's right. We wanted to
stick to the dcom stuff and how'd you get here
and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
So yes, anyway, thank you everybody for joining us.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Thank you so much Alison Stoner for taking the time,
because I know they are Oh they said, what did
they seventy five interviews or something? We were number sixty
eight out of seventy five or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
So they're a little busy right now. They're probably so
sick of talking about themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
So excited because they want so many people to know
about this. As they said, this is the pride and
joy of what they've done so far in their career
because this is the most personal.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Well this is that's it. It's there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
It's just but of course they want to talk about it.
I just know it is very, very tiring. I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Oh I couldn't imagine. And now they're going to go
on a book tour and do everything else.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
So crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Anyway, thank you Allison for taking an hour, which again
we could have talked to them for another three because
we get to ninety percent of our questions. But hopefully
they'll come back and don't forget. You can actually go
get the book right now. Semiwell Adjusted. I think it's
called Semi Well Adjusted despite literally everything. Isn't that what
the entire title? It is the legendary Allison Stoner, So

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go pick that up.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
They have story after story and we can't wait to
read it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
So thank you everybody for joining us on this park
Opper episode and don't forget to join us over on
the other feed as we talk.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Everything d com.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Sometimes I love them, most of the times they're just okay,
I'm they're great. Tweet know they're great, and we'll see
you over there next time. Thanks everybody, Bye us