Starring Danielle Harris as Hayley Wheaton in “Wish Upon a Star”

The horror gal herself is here! Danielle Harris joins Will and Sabrina to talk about working on “Wish Upon a Star”, growing up in the entertainment industry and more! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Thank you everybody for joining us on this Park Copper
episode of Magical Rewind.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Oh we got a good one today. Yes, that's right.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
She's done so many things that we're going to talk about,
but we're really going to focus today on her incredible
performance and I mean incredible performance in the I.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Guess we'll call it Disney Channel movie.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Even though it was a wonderful World of Disney, even
though it was really porn it.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Wasn't we know that, uh wish upon a star? Can
you please help us welcome Danielle.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Harris, Hi yay.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Hello, Oh my gosh, fine, how are you?

Speaker 4 (00:55):
The background is everything that I needed it to be.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Thank you so much, Danielle, Oh my god, so good.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
You know my kids, like, my kid's room is right
next door to my office, and I have to make
sure the door's closed if he's like needs to go
get water at night or something, because he won't leave
his room because he won't come back to his bed
because I've got Michael Myers standing in the I wouldn't either.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
You got Michael Myers in the corner of your house.
I'm not sleeping tonight myself.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
Oh man, almost Susan Hi guys, how are you welcome?

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Thank you so much for coming.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
We just finished doing the review of Wish upon a
Star and holy how did you nail that role in
so many ways?

Speaker 3 (01:43):
And we got to talk about every single one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yes, Love, you were great. We very rarely, and that's
not true.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
We like a lot of the Disney Channel wonderful World
of Disney stuff, but very rarely do we both really
love a movie.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
And it was.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
It was great.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
It did not seem Disney at all.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
No, no.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
Matter Disney bought it, we didn't actually make it for Disney.
So we made it through Lucadia Films, and ironically enough,
it was a Mormon company that did that. I think
I was the only non Mormon on the crew and
the cast, including Katie Heigel. Uh so I didn't know
he was a Mormon. Yes, so I was sort of

(02:25):
the bad influence, you know, well, as I usually am shocker, but.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
It was we were sitting there watching just kind of
saying like, wait, that's not Disney, this isn't Disney.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Wait, what's what's going on?

Speaker 1 (02:35):
So but we'll get into that. First of all, I
guess the first question I would ask you. We always
like to ask and I think we asked this when
you're on Podmets World as well, but for our fans here,
how did you get into acting? What's your origin story?
What made you decide to enter this wonderful business of show.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Oh yeah, exactly wonderful. I was dragged in, no, you know,
I started. We all have the same story. I started
when I was five, doing beauty pageants and commercials and
modeling and all of that typical stuff that you do.
And I got really lucky. I won a beauty pageant

(03:13):
that took me to New York and I was found
by some you know, modeling agents, talent agents. I'm pretty
sure we probably paid like ten thousand dollars to go
to I think one of those things, you know what
I mean that we all kind of got conned into. Sure,
just so I was in LA.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
It was like a big like John and Robert Powers was.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Oh yeah, one of those Yeah people might have even
done a couple of those two.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
I did a fashion show for them for sure.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
Oh my god, it's so crazy. Yeah, now there's the internet,
and so I went. I went moved back to New
York and just started working on commercials and doing stuff.
And I you know, I was little and looked younger
than I was, so I guess I just listened well
and could read lines and paid attention and wasn't a brat,

(03:58):
so I got jobs. Yeah, and hence, you know, Wish
Upon a Star was one of those sort of like
worked out perfectly because they couldn't find their girl, but
because I was actually older, they were trying to do
it the op. They were trying to cast it the
other way around. They were trying to find fourteen year
olds that could be mature and act older and have

(04:20):
Katie act younger. But in reality, I was I think
three or four years older than her, but I looked
so much younger. So we spent more time playing sort
of more true to our actual essence than we, you know,
than we did on screen. So it's kind of an
interesting little dichotomy.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Yeah, okay, so you were older, you get to call
her Katie and Nat Catherine dying.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
She's probably Catherine now, but she's kid back then.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, I'm dying that that you get to just you know,
throw out the Katie like no big deal because you
guys are besties.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
But well that I mean, it worked.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Because I feel like you guys really did like embody,
these like other aspect characters than your original characters show
up on screen as like, you know, I'm.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Closer to Alexia as far as sort of just energy wise,
and I think she, you know a little bit, I
was a little bit naughty, so I think that, uh,
and I grew up in the valley and you know,
it was kind of just sort of fitting. So I
kind of it was harder for me to play Haley.
I had to just sort of young myself up, and
then I spent more time, you know, being the older sister. Essentially,

(05:29):
Where was this.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
In your career as far as like when you were
booking stuff? Like was you know so this you said
it was through a different production company, so you didn't
necessarily go into like the ABC building to audition, But
where were you in like your journey?

Speaker 5 (05:45):
Honestly, the only thing I ever did that was ABC,
Like Disney ABC was Weyman's world, Like it kind of
wasn't really considered like you know, a Disney girl. I
didn't sing, I didn't dance. I didn't kind of have
that spunk. I kind of had more of an edge,
so I did sort of the more horror stuff for
indie stuff or you know, I always played the character

(06:07):
the bad girl or whatever, so you know, hence my
character on Poytmet's World. Yeah, but yeah, so I think
that was. That was kind of at the height of
my career. I had just come off of doing a
movie in Italy called Daylight with Sylvester Stallone and I
come back and I think it was like a week
after I had gotten back that they were like, couldn't

(06:29):
find their girl, and they were they were when I
went in on a Friday, and then I went back
again later that night on Friday, and then on Sunday,
I was on a plane and I was on my
way to Utah and we started working I think like Tuesday. Monday,
we did like our fitting and they colored our hair.
I don't know why they did that, but they dyed
our hair a little bit lighter for some weird reason,
both of us. And then we started working on Tuesday

(06:50):
and that was it was it.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Was it just you auditioning or did you have to
have some kind of a chemistry test with Katie?

Speaker 5 (06:56):
No? I didn't. I just me, just me and Blair True,
the director. I didn't even meet her. I didn't even
know her, you know, and then she'd only really done
oh god, that Gerard de Pardue movie.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Oh we mentioned it. Yeah, I can't remember what it
was called.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
That I was the only one that I only movie
she'd really done at that point, and she, you know,
I think everybody thought she was going to be super
big and then she kind of had a little bit
of a lull, and then this sort of rebirthed that.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
And now now she's only doing Mormon projects and things
about BUYU for like the last ten years.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
No, no, just yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Wait the director, I thought, the director director, Oh.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
The director, Yeah no, and we're talking about the I'm
talking about Blair.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Okay, got it. I was like, Catherine's only doing No, no.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Catherine's doing other things.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
The director, your director, Blair is only doing Mormon stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
So then you get there, now was Disney and at
this point are you shooting? Are they shooting the film
as if it's going to have anything.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
To do with Disney.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
No, this was supposed to be kind of they thought
maybe going to a theater or whatever, it was going
to be right they I.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Think they just were like, let's make this movie and
try to sell it. And it was Lucadia Films. I
don't even know what they had. They'd done a couple
of other sort of family ish things before and then
it then Disney bought it maybe like a year or
so after. I mean it was it took a minute
to kind of you know, get done and get wrapped
up and and and then it ended up on the

(08:22):
Disney Channel. But you know, obviously over time, it's it's collected,
it's it's fan base. As we get older, there's more
and more and more you have a show about it,
you know.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
So yeah, the biggest thing I was saying as we
were like discussing our rewatch was this was so on
brand for me at the time because I was in
you know, high school. It was either junior high or
high school during this time. And like, I mean, I
have I went to my own winter formal and like
a satin backless dress.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Like Jessica mcclint talk.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yes, yeah, probably probably with the satin gloves and like
the hair and like nodded whatever.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
I mean, that was it.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
But I said, it's like right around this time, that
was She's All That and Ten Things I Hate About
You and all the movies that had the ska bands
that played at the prom, you know, all of that,
and it.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Was it was such a great movie.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
I had not seen it since or before, and it
was such a nostalgic movie. It had all the things
that we wanted to see when we were younger, you know.
And in this movie, particularly the subject matter of you
guys talking about whether or not your older sisters having sex.
All that stuff was shocking because the channel just didn't
do that. But I need to jump forward because I

(09:38):
cannot wait one working it will I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
I know your thing careless, do your thing.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
You, my friend, did one of the best scenes I
have ever seen on me and your stripteasiest thing. You
nailed that so much, like I need you to now
go on Dancing with the stars, Kocha, like you have
no all about it.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
It was so good.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
Danielle like, oh my god, I was so embarrassed. You
guys are you really.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Don't look at it all?

Speaker 5 (10:10):
You akin more? Mortified? Mortified? Mortified, mortified. I think I
was eighteen eight and nineteen I was nineteen and no,
maybe I was a little bit older than that actually,
because I think I was Oh no, I have to
look and remember how old it was. I'm almost like,
did I go to the bar? I don't remember if
I was able to get into the bar at that
point or if there was I'm not I don't remember,

(10:30):
but but it was you know, all of those kids
were around watching.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
And they were kids too, they're kids, yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
And I was embarrassed, and a majority of them were
also Mormon. And I rolled up in my outfit and
I don't think that anybody knew sort of what was
going to happen. They wanted kind of genuine reactions. And
I had worked with like a choreographer or whatever for
like a couple of hours to sort of what am
I going to do? Has it going to be? How

(10:58):
am I gonna be on the table? And then I
saw the outfit. I was like, oh my god, you know,
and I was I was super self conscious about my
body at the time, and you know, I'd never done
anything like that before, and I don't know, I just was, yeah,
I was very very nervous and uncomfortable. And and you know,
I do a lot of horror conventions and it's all
pop culture stuff still and uh, and a lot of

(11:20):
a lot of there have been some people that have
come to the shows wearing that get.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Up really with the whip and everything, with all.

Speaker 7 (11:28):
My everything, the wits and childs and the whole that
make you feel, you know, I'd much rather talk about
wish ubon a Star than Halloween because I didn't I'd
been talking about a Halloween for so many years that
I'm so glad that this movie is able to kind
of come back and get the love that you know
that that it has and bring that nostalgia back that is.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
I mean, that just shows how incredible, like where your
acting skills were at, because you looked so confident. I
do think for them to to put you in like
more of like the fish so where that like you
would be on a table and feel a little bit
more comfortable like where others were standing. We might need
to touch on the fact that these like little Mormon

(12:10):
boys looked like they were very like regulars at the
bar splash, coyote, ugly.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Slash, maybe strip club.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
I don't know, Like that's pretty shocking to know that
that was where they were.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Because they did a great job too. They sold so
much of the.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
Scene as totally they totally did. I think we had
like a little tiny like like cassette player you know,
playing that song for me to then just get up
and do it over and over and over and over
and over again.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
It's amazing, though, that because I've been in a Mormon
film as well, you know, a regular film, but a
film that's the in Done in Utah.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
The whole cast is Mormon. Every I'm amazed they did
this in that film.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
I mean, the sex conversations, the drinking, they're gonna throw
a kegger, and then they have you dressed like that.
What was there ever, any pushback on the set of Hey,
we don't want to go this far, maybe this is
too far, maybe we should you know, not that I.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Was aware of. I mean I didn't even know that
it was a Mormon thing until I got there, Like
it had never you know. It wasn't like I could
search on the internet until I figure anything out.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
So and this was all in the script that you read.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Yeah, I was like, Oh, this is a whole really
fun comedy. I get to do something fun and funny
and I haven't played this character before and this this
is going to be cool. And I get to go
to Utah for a month. And I had done Halloween
in Utah. I hadn't been back since then. So I
was really excited about going to Salt Lake, and I
didn't realize what it was till I got there and

(13:38):
then everybody and I started realizing, oh, because I have
a potty mouth. And I think the one time I
was like I forgot you know, I forgot a line
or something, and everybody just went silent.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Oh no.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
I was like, oh, oh god, you know, and then
I was like, oh god. It was like smoking cigarettes
at the time, and I was like in my trailer
in the bathroom, like and like I'm like so bad.
I'm such a bad girl, and I'm gonna hate me,
you know. And I was trying to get Catherine to
like be my be my friend, and when she came
to La, I was like, we gotta hang out and
I got to like introduce you to people, and her

(14:13):
mom was like, hell, no, she's not going to be
friends with you. But I didn't know, you know, I
just I just didn't know. So I think I was
like figuring it out as I was going along of like,
oh wait a minute, I because I'd done I hadn't
experienced that before. Now obviously I've done a Christian film
as well, so like now I kind of know the vibe,
and when I get on set, I'm a little more

(14:34):
well behaved.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Well, you mentioned something interesting, which is you'd never played
this character before, so it's a difficult task because you're
essentially playing two characters. So is this doing a body
swap movie? Is this something where did you and Catherine
get together and give each other ticks where it's like
so like the giggle for instance, I know that you're
are you matching her giggle?

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Or did you guys get together and say.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Okay, give me a lip bike, give me something to
where I'm supposed to when I'm supposed to be you,
I can mimic something that you've done.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Is that something that was conscious or were you just?

Speaker 5 (15:13):
Did you do any of that? We didn't do any rehearsals.
We didn't do any We had no conversations about what
our things were that we were going to switch. I
think we just became good friends really quickly and started
mirroring one another, picking up little things as we were
shooting and as we were going and and then implementing
them into the character. But there really wasn't I mean,

(15:35):
I want I rewatched Freaky Friday the other day with
my kids because I wanted to go see the new
one in the theaters and and I was like, God,
I'm I'm getting lost in this, really believing that they've
switched bodies. And maybe it's hard for me to just
see myself on screen and believe it because it's me
so but you can get lost in that when you're
when it's when it's really happening and work and it's.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Done well, and it's done well, it's done well. And
that's exactly what it was for you guys, Like it
was done so well. I mean the immediate you know,
the only thing that was a little maybe far fetch
was you guys waking up and kind of like how
long it took you guys to get to the bathroom,
Like I think the first time running into a dresser
then you might spread to the bathroom, so like look

(16:19):
down at your legs, your toes, all that stuff. Yeah,
But besides that, I mean that's also Disney type, you know,
younger whatever. But your immediate like choices that you did
when as soon as you switched into that more adult
version was just spot on.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
It was so good, it really was. I just was.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
I mean, Will and I both said like you guys
just you know, and she instantly got younger, like you know,
it was so good.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
She just softened and she just became more of herself
and didn't have to She wasn't pretending to be you know,
she's she's she's a bigger girl. She's tall, she was voluptuous,
you know, she was curt she had she was a
sexy girl, and I think she really didn't wasn't comfortable
in that skin, so it was easier for her to

(17:11):
be uncomfortable in that And I was uncomfortable within my body,
but like I was, I was more confident within myself
at the time, I think to to sort of like
run the show. I think I'd had just more life
experience at that time than she had had, so it
just worked really well. Yeah, it's one of my favorite

(17:33):
things that I've done, for sure.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, I think it's It just shows how you as
a producer or a casting director or a director, you
go in thinking you'd want one thing, like oh, we
want to find somebody younger to play older, when really
older to play younger.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Is how you had to do that. Yeah, I don't
know why they did that.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, I mean you had to cast the way that
they did, because that's the only way it works, is
the gravitas of the little sister become and the oldest sister.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
You have to do it that way.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
And then they added stuff into it too that like
was us, like me not being able to reach things,
like they hung things up purposely high, So there were
things that were kind of added along the way, you know,
make fun of my height or my clothes or that
kind of stuff. But one of one of the funny things,
there was only one thing that she could do that
I couldn't do that I was supposed to do that
she wasn't supposed to do, and that was driving a

(18:22):
stick shift. So I could not drive stick. She could
drive stick, so she had to pretend that she couldn't
and I had to learn how to in a jeep
that I couldn't push the clutch in because I was
too short, which is why I never was a stick
in real life anyway, because it was always too difficult
for me to be able to do without eating the

(18:43):
steering wheel, especially jeep you know that didn't back then.
There was no like electric seats and the pedals didn't
move or any of that stuff, you know. So so
that was the only thing is if you watch the movie,
when I finally got the damn car to go and
not stall, I pulled into the school parking a lot
like a lunatic because I finally got it going, and
I was like, oh.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
My god, Oh my god, oh my god, it's going.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
It's going, yes, and then I just like screeched in
and slammed the brakes on. And then she had to
pretend that she didn't know how to do it, so
she was like jerking it and you know, so that
was kind of the only thing that we we really
had to kind of work on.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
You fuched.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
We actually didn't catch on Will, which we normally do
because you know, with a lot of the Disney Channel movies,
they're they're soccer players or their snowboarders, or they're doing stuff,
and you see the obvious like stunt double doubles. But
that was one thing I did notice, Will. I'm sure
you did too, that there were no stunt doubles. Those
were the girls in the car. Catherine just like flailing around.

(19:37):
Kile looks like he's about to literally fall out of
the jeep at one point, like you know, going, oh
my gosh.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
They didn't even have stunt doubles like nothing.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
But that's so cool because you guys were really young
to not have that right like normally as we've seen.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
I mean, I didn't a lot there, Like I mean,
I guess because I did most of the movie that
I had done up to that point, I had done
way scarier stuff without bubbles, stuff that now I go
back and watch and I'm like, I cannot even believe
that that was allowed, and that there was a sag
rep and there was studio teachers, and there was my

(20:16):
mother that was like, yeah, no problem, you're ten run
in front of a moving car like it's all right,
this is super cool. And you know, so I didn't.
I didn't think like you could. I didn't have to
do that stuff. I mean now obviously as I've gotten older,
it's like I'm not I don't do anything anymore. I'm
always like I am.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
But not only that, the industry has, you know, thankfully child.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Safety wise.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
I mean, we talked about and bring that d coom
where remember well he was telling us like they just
put them on. I think it was Christina, yeah, Vidal
during the audition, They're like they put and pushed us
down a hill, pushed us down this hill to see
if you survived.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
You were in the film about the part.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
Yeah, I mean how many times did you lie? How
many times did you guys lie?

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Though?

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Girl on O, Yes, I never I would say I've
been on a horse, but I can't really like ride
a horse.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
I've just exactly or like I've done that to you
where it's like, oh, yeah, no, I can ice skate.
And then I had not the final call at the rink,
and I'm like, I can't. I really can't ice skate.
I mean, I can go around if I'm holding onto
the side, but I can't be in and with the
mighty ducks.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Is actually physically put them on my feet. I can't
really do anything in that.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
According to my special skills category, I'm off, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 1 (22:15):
Now you mentioned the type of part you normally got.
Were you excited to do a comedy.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
Yeah, I was. I mean I was doing the kind
of a bunch of still trying to find my way.
That was like right around that transition point of no
longer kid now becoming an adult. So I think it
was my that was kind of my first sort of
adult ish essence role. I would say, you know, when
I did Daylight, right before then, I was playing fourteen,

(22:42):
so it wasn't you know, I was a little the
kid and the parents were fighting and they were going
to get a divorce, and you know, it was cowering
in the corner. So I was I'm still hopeful that
I will get cast in comedies. I'm like, my god, please,
for the love of God, somebody, this would be so
so fun. But it's it's hard. I don't have I
haven't done a lot of that stuff, so I don't

(23:03):
have that you know that I need. I need to
hone in on that thing that you guys do that
I'm like, never quite it was never quite able. It
was like, well, you know, when c W became a thing,
like I couldn't They were like, you're not really c W.
You know your you're Fox. I was like, oh, there's
this other network that like, that's who I was testing
for all the time, was like CBS and Fox sometimes

(23:27):
or and you know, mostly Fox stuff because they were
sort of a little bit edgier. But I think it's
always been a little bit hard for people to figure
out kind of what to do with me and where
I fall. And you know, again, I've looked, I've looked younger,
but I am older and even now you know, I'm
forty eight, and I see, I mean I could realistically

(23:47):
have a child, and I mean I have an auditioned
later today where I've got a twenty something year old kid,
and I don't know if it's my my the way
I think about myself, but I'm like, I can't. I
don't know if I buy myself having a twenty something
year old on screen. I just don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
I'm a grandfather and I don't think they'd ever cast
me as a grandfather, and really a.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
Grandfather, I am congratulations, that is cute. Crazy. How did
we get so old it would never be cast as
a grandfather?

Speaker 1 (24:16):
No, But then again, as it was the same thing
we all had those moments of especially when we came
up as actors where it was like they would hand
you an audition and you'd look at it and go, this.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
They're never going to cast again.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
This.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, they we want you to come in for the
high school football jock.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
I'm like, yeah, that's not me. That's never going to
be me. Why are you wasting your time in mind
with this kind of stuff?

Speaker 5 (24:37):
For sure? And it was like like I remember going
in one time. You know, there's Daniel Harris who's married
to Jensen Accles and she changed her last name to Harris.
So there were two different times in my career that
I got the audition and I was like, you guys,
this this is never I think one was like Dark

(24:58):
Angel or something, you know, for Jessica's role. It was like,
I can't even touch the ground on a motorcycle. Nevertheless
be someone that would ride a motorcycle. I feel so stupid.
And my manager and agents were like, where big chunky
platform heels in long pants of they'll they won't see
how tall you are, you know, I mean I'm five
feet so it's not like and I'm proportionate to my

(25:21):
site's like you're going to know that I'm tiny anyway,
when I go in there, and I walked in and
they were like, oh, Danielle. And I was like, I'm
not the Dan and you wanted daniel Harris. You didn't
want Danielle Harris, you know what? And they were like, no, no, no,
we love you. You're here. Because I called my own manager,

(25:42):
it was like, I'm not going in on this, this
is a mistake. I'm way totally waste my time driving
down a Sony, you know, at six o'clock at night
on a Friday. I don't want to do you guys,
so you go and you park and you walk and
I'm already stressed out and anxious and irritated, and I'm like, oh,
I hate this and wearing my edges and I feel dumb.
And I go in and I'm like, of course you

(26:03):
wanted to kneel and they were like, well, no, no,
you're here. Just read. It was like, I don't even
want to read. I feel so stupid. It's all good.
I knew it. I knew what I knew it. So
there was a little a little bit of that I've.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Had that happen as well.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I'd walk into a room for an interview or something
like that, and they'd look at me and I could
see disappointment and I was like, I wonder what that is.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
And I found out later they thought it was Will Ferrell.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Oh, so it was like, oh, you'd be super disappointed
if you thought Will Ferrell was walking in.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
And it's me like, man, what a bad way to
spend your day.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
I apologize for not being Will Ferrell, like it's you
feel you feel people like.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
That's just the worst. I can't even you get it.
Time I had, I had a girl who actually booked
the jobs. Her name was Sabrina as well.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
When I was younger, I had darker hair and we
both had pigtails in our headshot. And I had like
a dance choreographer who was like, I need that Sabrina girl.
But at the time I was using like my maiden name,
which is Emo hosts so very hard for anyone. It
wasn't like I was Hispanic, but it wasn't like Gomez
or Lopez or like an easier one to remember. And

(27:12):
they ended up casting like by you know, my agent
or whatever was like, oh, they're like this, the British
is dark hair and she's picktails in her headshot and
they sent her and she went.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
To the job.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
She showed up like oh, this was like a call
to go and it was like a choreographer saying, I
need five kids, I need this. And she went twice
to a call was showing up as yeah, and they
were like you know, and she she did it. But
like they both called my agent going what you such
us the wrong one.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
We're like, well, I love God, I love this business.

Speaker 9 (27:44):
It's like, you know, like how horrible for her, how
horrible for both of us, Like I missed out on
a job and she went there and again they were disappointed,
like that's not cool.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
Now, And oh I wish that were the days where
somebody would call and they would remember your head shot.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
You know, it was the same.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
There was the same like nine girls in the room
every time, and you know, you get the sides and
you're like, oh, Love's going to get this or oh
you know, god, who else? JENNI Yes, I never really odd.
The only thing I ever auditioned for against Jenna was
for Blossom.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Believe it or not.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Really, I think we became the same person after being
friends for so long.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
That's what it was.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, that's when you and I met when I was
dating Jenna and you were dating Eric, and we we.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Would always go out to double dates. Yes, that's sorry,
Yeah that's what you and I met. Was like, oh
my god, I'm going on a double date.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
This is so much everyone on the podcast is going.
Could you imagine being on a double date with them?

Speaker 1 (28:45):
So okay, So you said you weren't cast as Disney
stuff because you weren't ute unquote a Disney kids.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Were you a Disney fan growing up?

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Yeah? I mean I watched everything. I mean I still
watch everything. Actually, just got to notice that my subscriptions expired,
so now I need to renew it for Disney Plus.
But yeah, I mean, but it was more like, you know,
I think all of our friends were on these shows, right,
and we didn't really like sit and watch our friends,
and we didn't talk about what we did, like when

(29:13):
we hung out. I don't ever remember any of my
friends talking about what they were working on or what
we were doing, or what happened on set. It was
all like relationships stuff or you know, drama stuff or whatever.
We didn't really care about that stuff. So if I
put it on, it was like, oh, oh that's you know, whatever.
It wasn't like I sat and watched my friends unless
like we all got together at their house and like
you know, we're kind or I was living with them,

(29:37):
you know, they were like my roommates, like when you
know Natalia Segludi and Tara Reid were my roommates. We'd
like watch Italia and Save by the Bell, so like
you know that like that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
You lived with Natalia. Oh, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
Yes, yeah, I don't know very.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Well, but Natalia and I have done a bunch of
projects together. She was always just so sweet.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
I love Natalia, she said, one of my best friends.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
If please, I will, I will.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
And you lived like in this era.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
You were like living in everyone's like dream of just
being in this like you guys seem like the you
as well will like kind of like this Like it
wasn't as I guess advertise as much as like the
rat Pack, but like of your day, the like group
like of all these like big star actors, we were

(30:28):
like from.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
A minute they're like there was like I felt like
there was like the Johnny Depp River Phoenix, those like
kind of that.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Leo Leo had a group and him with all of
his friends and Kenby.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
And you know Danny, you know, all of those guys.
And then and then it was like we me and
my girlfriends hung out with them, but they were just
like two years a year or two years older and
kind of edgy, you know. And this is when everybody
was like partying and stuff and there were no cameras
and nobody no nobody gave me.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
It was great.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
We were like it was so great, like just just
under them, like we had our group, but it was
like and a lot of like newer actors and people
that were coming in and staying at the Oakwood and
trying to you know, new on shows but like in it.
And yeah, and I was bringing you guys in and
being like we've been doing this for a long time,
but like you're new and welcome and awesome, and like

(31:23):
we all just hung out together and went to house
parties together and you know, and and and did normal
sort of like college stuff, but with a bunch of
people that weren't in college, weren't going to college. For
the most part, it was.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Just our life.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
I mean, it was like you'd go to work and
you'd get a job and you do that stuff. But
then you'd want to hang out with people and go
on double dates and go to dinner and date around
and all, we're going to do this tonight, and so yeah,
it was just kind of normal.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
It was also that that was your life offset because
you guys were all working.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
There's also the New York kids, because a bunch of
us came from New York and that's where, you know,
so that was a whole different thing.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
We came from the East Coast and meeting up with
all the West Coast kids. So it was just yeah,
I mean it was that.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
I was this weekend, i was at the Backstreet Boys
concert and I'm talking to AJ about just like what
it was like hanging out back in the day.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
It's these are just people we knew.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
So it's like, oh, yeah, now you got to go
do a show, good good scene, you know.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Speaking of bands and everyone just being in this click,
Who the hell did the moon Pools and Caterpillars know
to get into this movie?

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Because they're everywhere.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
They're in the movie.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
You're watching them while you're vegging out on the couch.
I mean they're in it multiple times.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
That's a great question, I do.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
And they were like, because I Remember they're not a
well known band. I mean in the in the other
movies that I mentioned before, like there were like SKA
bands that were like say, Feris was like huge, right,
and she shows up in Gosh, I don't know, Lisa
will probably remember our producer, but she shows up in
the movie with her whole band, Like there was like that.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
But like, who are these guys? Like were they of
a Utah band?

Speaker 2 (33:04):
They must have I'm reading about it right now.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
There just a Filipino American alternative rock band based in California.
They released three albums commercially, the pink album, Lucky Dumpling
and that they don't even put the name of the
third one on there. But yeah, they were played a
live show Whisky of Go. They had to have known somebody.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
They must have. They must have just known. I mean again,
this was like a little teeny movie, you know. Yeah,
it wasn't the Disney movie that it is now. It
was this little you know, I made scale, you know,
it was this little little teeny budget thing and we
had the little trailer and little you know, there was
like nothing fancy about about the production whatsoever. I mean,

(33:43):
I just come off of the still own movie where
it was, you know, one hundred and twenty million dollar
budget film to this tiny little thing. And I mean,
I had way more fun doing Wush Uponasar than I
did that movie. But I think it just became so.
I think it was just a little like they didn't
have the money to really have anybody, so it must
have just been like someone new them and they called
them and they came. And I was doing a panel
the other a couple of weeks ago at a show,

(34:04):
and before I come out, they had played one of
the songs from Moonpools and Caterpillars, and I was like,
oh my god, who is this on their on.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Their requested this?

Speaker 5 (34:17):
That is so like, I know this song.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
I know what I love that you would remember that.
I don't even think if they threw out like a
random song.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Really, you didn't listen to the Pink album, which is
apparently what it's called. It's a masterpiece of No, I
have no idea what the Pink album is.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yes, I listened to Pink's albums.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
I don't remember her reference to friends moonshine.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
I also got to keep you on the hot seat just.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Because I'm curious about something.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
I felt like Kyle was a bit of a dreamboat
on our d com like level. I don't I don't
remember the actor's name, Donnie Jeff cot Okay, was anything
happening up in Utah with mister Donnie, because I feel
like he was definitely between He stood out between any
of you. He stood out amongst the crowd in my opinion,

(35:13):
within the group of everyone.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
I mean I knew Donny from Wild and Crazy Kids,
right like I. He was also like part of that
Barry Barry Barry Watson. He was like friends with Barry
and like that again, like we all have these like clicks,
like he was part of that click. So no, nothing
on set. So we were friends before I had done

(35:37):
like a guest spot on Wild and Crazy Kids and
then just knew each other kind of threw out and
about through other friends. But nothing. Kat Katie was had
a huge crush on him. She was super super into him.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
So well because she felt like like when she was
playing her, she did not seem like she was interested
in this guy.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
Kissed all over her at all. No, she was a
younger version and realized she you know, she was, she
was a minor. So so Donnie was like, no.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
No no, no, no, no, no, no no no.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
You cannot come to my room and watch me drink
a beer. Now you can, Danielle, you can come over.
Nothing happened, nothing, nothing happened between between Donnie and I
am on that movie.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Well we'll leave it.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
We'll leave it at that, and I will take that, okay.
So we would be remiss because obviously the the ur
fandoms would be very upset if we didn't. Also because
there is some cross appeal to free Willy. Oh god,

(36:47):
So what was that experience like? And who was in
the giant whale costume?

Speaker 5 (36:54):
I never met the whale. I never never was no, never, no,
I don't even know where where he cake going.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
I ended up killing a whole bunch of other people.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
Yeah, yeah, I did. I know they're nasty there. I mean, look,
finally now everyone's finally talking about it. Was like, oh shaboo.
It's like, no, they're killing great whites. Have you not watched,
like it's out that the secrets out?

Speaker 2 (37:14):
They're not killer is in the title or it's not
called a fluffy whale?

Speaker 5 (37:20):
No, I think that was just like an audition that
I got. And and you know again, it's like you
don't if I look back now and I think, oh,
I wonder like now that I'm directing and producing and
doing stuff and I'm looking for names, I'm looking for
people that have things and that I know from things,
and and I guess I just didn't realize then, Like
you know, every audition was like oh God, please please

(37:42):
please please, I got I want to want to job,
want to get a job, want to get a job.
I didn't know that I'd come in and they were like, oh,
that's the girl from blah blah blah, or yeah she
was the daughter and last boy scatter, she did this
or she's this like that. I I just we didn't.
You didn't have a way to gauge whether or not
someone cared you know that, or that it was relevant
or important. It was like, oh God, I just want
to do in the room and that will be enough.
And you don't you didn't think like that. Really, maybe

(38:03):
it wasn't necessarily what was getting you the job. Now
you know, that's definitely not what was getting you the job.
You know, it was a bunch of others that we
had no idea of because it's politics. So we were
too young, right yep, So I had auditioned for that
and went and shot that in Portland and was just like,
this is super cool, and you know, playing a homeless kid.

(38:24):
And I was always like not having to wear makeup
and to be sort of tomboyish. That was comfortable for me.
I still like to do movies that I don't have
to get done up. It is nice to look pretty
once in a while. But and I actually broke talking
about doing your own stunts. I broke my foot on
that movie doing my own stunts. There was a scene

(38:45):
where when we're running from the cops. I guess I
haven't seen the movie in a while. We're running from
the cops, and I remember it was me and me
and Jason Richter and then two other kids, Mike and
then another kid. There was four of us and we
were running from them, and they had us jumping off
of some sort of like overpass onto boxes that were

(39:11):
on the back the top of a semi of course,
and then from there they once we fell into the boxes,
we climbed out and jumped onto the truck lift that
was lifted up and then from there to the ground,
and then from the ground we had to run down
this alley where there's like pebbles and stuff. We're all
jumping at the same time. We're probably twenty feet in

(39:33):
the air, like you know, we all could have died.
I mean, it was really really stupid to do something
like this. Thanks Warner Brothers and we I was fine
until I got to the ground. And when I got
to the ground, I slipped on this car one of
the pieces of cardboard that fell off from the truck,
and I slipped because it was over the rocks, and

(39:54):
I just my ankle just ate it. And I when
it was able to go home home and had the
doctor and put my remember putting my foot in a
bucket of ice, and I really needed to go to
the hospital, but I couldn't go get a cast because
the next day I had to do all of the
rest of the running shots. So so I went to

(40:14):
work the next day and and with a you know,
broken foot, and and ran and ran, yeah, oh and ran.
And then I went home and went to the doctor
and did my cast and did all that stuff and
didn't report anything because you know, you're afraid you're never
going to work again if you say something, so you're like,
just what's the point. I'm not going to sue them

(40:35):
for anything, So I'm just gonna do it and and
move on. And yeah, that was that was crazy. So
those are the things that you learn, like and it
was the dumbest little thing, like, but we could it
could have been so much worse. How did had something
else that happened?

Speaker 6 (40:49):
You know?

Speaker 5 (40:49):
Thank god it was only when I hit hit the
ground that I hurt myself. But yeah, just dumb. You know,
you don't want to make anyone mad at you. You
don't want it.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
You want to be the good kid, any I am ad.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
I mean, I know there's so many more protocols now,
but I think that is just the conditioning of being
a child actor in general, is that you're relying on
the adults around you to make the bigger decisions for
you so that you don't have to so that if
they don't make those decisions, you just assume that you
obviously have to like lean into that. And that's part

(41:22):
of being a quote unquote baby adult on a set.
You know, even now, I bet you that's kind of
stuff happened.

Speaker 5 (41:30):
I Mean, I have for so long been trying to
figure out a way to have some sort of protector
on set that is not paid by the producers, Right,
You're not giving any money from anybody, just someone that's
there to say you can do that, you cannot do that.
You know, we've got these intimacy coordinators, like where are

(41:53):
these children coordinators to say so the mother doesn't have
to make the decision. The man are just.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Because the parents and I looked at as being stage
parents for sure, they speak up too much. If they
start advocating too much, then they get a different.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
Then nobody wants to hire the title.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
See, I got very lucky with that because both of
everyone knew that both of my parents were attorneys. So
occasionally my dad would come onto this set and that
he'd be like he's not doing that, and they'd be
like well, and my Dad's like nope, and they'd be like,
oh wait, he's the lawyer.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, okay, no problem. So I benefit that quite a bit.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
I had my dad on set.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
He's real estate agent, so my dad was his job
made it more easy for him to be on set
with me. And I think just the fact that I
had a machisimo like Hispanic man with me that like
people didn't mess with me as much just because of
his presence and him being a man I think really

(42:48):
was a benefit.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
Even sort of the emotional stuff too. You know, I
wish there was some sort of psychologist or some someone
some advocate that could sort of help. Like I look
at these kids that do horror movies or do soap
operas or do these dramas that have to go through
this emotional fight or flight response as in their scenes,
and they're little, you know. It's like I look at
Danny Pintoro from Kujo, and I'm like, how did you?

(43:11):
Like you know, I'm like, I'm the fan, going did
it mess you up?

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Like?

Speaker 5 (43:15):
Did it? Are you messed up? From stuff like that?
Even though I was doing the same thing at that age,
and he was like no, no, no, But it's like
how do you you know? Like they're like there's tum
there's trauma reactions like there. We work through that stuff
now as adults with doctors that help you reset and
recalibrate your brain. When you have these things and your
body doesn't know that you're an actor, you know, I age,

(43:37):
especially even now you know you're you're doing all this
stuff and it's like your your your body's creating all
of this cortisol and all these stress hormones and it's
messing up your menstrual cycle or your this or you're
with that or whatever.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Well, it's always I always think of Natalie Wood when
it comes to that, because when she was a kid,
they had her. They threw in a river, the thing broke,
she broke her wrist. They kept pumping water at her
and she was scared of water. And the day she
ended up, she ended up ding. So, I mean it
was these are things that traumatized. I mean, Judy Garland,
they were just feeding her cigarettes and amphetamines the whole
time to keep her thin and taping her breast down

(44:10):
as much as possible, which hurt like a yep, and
then throwing her out there for nineteen hour days.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
I mean it was. It certainly got terple.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
Like grinding on men, you know, like good shit, lollipop,
Like are you she's like a little little little girl.
I mean it like, so we've come a long way,
but we're not there. It's just not any we're close
to being there yet.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
No, I agree.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Well, if you ever want to get a bunch of
actors together to form some kind of thing for child advocates,
I'm sure you'd have a lot of people that were
in our positions that well, there.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
Was like there was like a I mean I've talked
about it with you know, with Corey Feldman, and I've
talked about it with Keith Coogan, and I mean even
just getting like the the fifteen percent the Cougan across
all states, like that doesn't even exist, like the fact
that we're still you know, like let's let's let's I
always say, if you're if your child, if you only

(45:02):
took home fifteen percent of your child's paycheck and the
rest of it had to stay in trust, no parents
would have their kids. Ninety percent of the parents that
get their kids into acting would not get their kids
into acting.

Speaker 6 (45:13):
Right.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
That's also the difference though, is my generation.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
That's also the we we noticed, especially on Podmet's World,
with everyone we're interviewing, almost to a person, the kids
that wanted to become actors had much different lives than
the kids who were put in the business.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
By their parents.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Yes, two very very different things. Like my parents never
took a dime. They made sure I invested everything.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
They were like a diamond in the rough. I remember
the only person I grew up with that had that
was Tatiana. Ali was my only friend.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Tatiana was the same way that.

Speaker 5 (45:43):
Her parents still worked and she got to keep her money.
And I remember when she you know, turned eighteen and
got a Rang drover and went to Harvard. I was like,
and bought a condo. I was like, I'm so like,
what the Yeah, yeah, you have such great parents, you know.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
Oh, like the majority of my parents that were auditioning
were charging for gas even you know, like gas to
get up there a day rate to be there all
day because they weren't working anymore. And it's like that
dynamic is is so hard for a young kid to

(46:21):
be able to like understand. I was able to, like,
if anything, it was more so like when I went
back to school, my mom would say, this is how
much me and your dad are going to give you
for back to school shopping.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
You're like, I'm going to go to get.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
But if my mom my mom would say, but if
you want to get anything more, you can absolutely use
some of your money. But it was, you know, they
would give me like a reasonable amount. But if I
wanted to go, you know, I thought, so go to
the Beverly Hills center and go to go to this
store and want to get something really special. My mom's like,
you can, but this is where you're going to learn
how to budget too, Like, I mean, it's so hard.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
I've got two kids. I've got, you know, a six
year old and eight year old, and I can't even
imagine I got a ten year old nephew, Like I
can't imagine my children working, like it blows my mind.
And you know, my dad died when I was young,
and my mom did the best she could. And you know,
I got lucky and was making a lot of money

(47:20):
and doing really well, and she was schlupping me all
over the goddamn place, and my poor sister was being
dragged around with us. And like I get it. I mean,
I got emancipated when I was sixteen and drove myself
and did all that stuff that we needed to do.
But there was, you know, that good twelve to sixteen
where you're like you're paying for everything because you're you.
My mom was like, I can go back to work,

(47:40):
but I can't. You can't do this anymore, and I'm
going to go work at the mall, like you we're
not going to have this is not going to.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Be your world.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
So you you have to figure out if you want
to do this. And she was always like, if you
don't want to do this anymore, that's fine, Like you
just have to tell me. You're like, you can't. It's
like you're breaking up the family if you'd say, I
don't want to do it anymore, you know. And I
loved being on set. I loved being on adults. I
loved I loved being creative. I loved having structure and
discipline and all of that stuff, Like those were things

(48:08):
that were so I didn't have in my real life.
So I was so like, yes, give it to me,
give it to me. So I had the business like
saved me. I mean, I for sure had an amazing
childhood and I had none, you know, I didn't have
any problems. I thank goodness. I have good you know,
only good stories to tell for being a kid actor
aside from other stuff. As an adult, you're like, oh,
it was nice. She probably shouldn't have put myself in

(48:29):
that situation. But you don't know, you know, when you're
a kid.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yeah, part of it is, part of it is learning.

Speaker 4 (48:35):
But at the same time, like I feel the same
way I feel so blessed that.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
And I mean I.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Really attribute to a lot of the fact that Disney
really they didn't obviously then no one, no one had
it correct completely, but like for the majority of it,
I feel like being under the Disney realm from when
I turned eighteen into my twenties and then going and
doing Dancing with the Star same thing.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Like they really took care of of you.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
They were, especially Disney, And I just was on set
again with you know, now kids, and I'm like being
on a set as like a for real adult. I
have now kids myself, and it's like Disney really does
take such good conscious care of what they're doing. Everything
is timed, every you know, the kids were just taken

(49:24):
so well care of that. I feel lucky that that's
where my main bit of work was because.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
I know that's not how it is across the board
with the industry.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
And I get you get some wow, I'm smoking cigarette
on set at twelve, and it's the people that are
buying the cigarettes are my producers.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
So you know.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
The first first beer I ever had was it was
a Nickelodeon producer bought it for me when I was eleven.
It was my first beer ever, so you just I mean,
you never you never know what where you're going to go,
or who you're going to be with or any of
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
So anyway, when we don't want to keep you low,
we're here.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
We've got stories and we've got we've got the best
visual diaries that anybody could ever ask for because we've
got a lot of our you know, younger lives are filmed,
so you really.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
You really get a chance to look back.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
But we're in a cool club, you know, we have
something that like we we all can sort of look
at each other and like you don't have to say much.
You just know we've all we've all had sort of
the same life to some extent, and and that's a
pretty cool, cool thing to be a part of. And
nobody will it's that's gone. You know that that will
never exist for anybody anymore. Everything is for us in

(50:33):
your heart and in your mind and shared experiences that
that no one can be a part of unless you
were a part of it. Yeah, that's a pretty special
thing to have.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
So, yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
We we came out relatively on scathed with some pretty
amazing memories and something that not a lot of people.

Speaker 5 (50:51):
Yeah, that sucks.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Stupid were eaten by a giant killer whale, though it
could have been worse worse.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
I just saw a video of someone like doing what
they used to do at SeaWorld.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
Er.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
They're like, you know, on the nose of the killer
whale and jumping and doing a dive, and I'm like,
I didn't know. It was somewhere in a different country.
I'm like, I didn't know. They were like, I can't
believe they're still doing this.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
You know, let's not keep giant animals and kept they're not.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Oh my god, but thank you so much for taking
the time and joining us. We loved the movie, So
everybody out there go check out Wish on a Star
and everything else. You were so good, and we're gonna
get you in more comedies because.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
We know there needs to be so I would love
Daniel Harris needs to be in way more comedies because.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
You were going killed only if that is in the
background the whole time, giggling to myself, like the whole
time we've been on this podcast, going I cannot believe
he's just right there.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
We just started moving right now.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
I've been waiting for the entire time just.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
You're your brother or something.

Speaker 5 (51:53):
In there was like my husband usually nice.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Yeah, well, thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
And yeah, when we when we uh switch from Disney
Channel movies to action venture movies that take place in
a tunnel that's collapsed in Italy, we're going to have
you back for daylight.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Thanks guys, Send.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
Care bye, Thank you bye.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
She's so cool.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
She's just one of those people club with you, guys,
because I legitimately want to go out to dinner and
just listen to more stories.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
I could tale. Literally I would just die.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
You gotta you know. It's it's a club that especially
for nineties kids. Kid, I want to.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
Give you the biggest hug that someone gave you a
beer at eleven. I don't want to give you a
hug right now, Like, what the hell is going on now?

Speaker 2 (52:40):
It was Luckily again, I was not.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
I didn't start drinking till I was like twenty five,
so I didn't it led me.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
I like sit to beer a couple of times. Sure
of course I could have, but no, I was. I
was never a drinker back in the day. It just
it wasn't for me.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
But yeah, you had moments like that of just I
mean again, I was openly smoking on sets when I
was twelve, and nobody was like, hey, that kid smoking.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Put that out. I mean I would. I had school
teachers that were the teachers.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Both of you said, like smoking it into that fan
that like gross, yeah, seventeen in your honeywagon and your
honeywagon and like that fan did nothing.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
No, that was it was we had. We had a
lot of a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
The fact that you were smoking, say yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
The people.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
The idea of having a child advocate on set, I
think is a great, great idea. Somebody who's just there
to watch out for the kids. That's it, and that's
supposed to be the studio teacher. But it didn't always
work that way. Our studio teachers on Boy Meets World,
for instance.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Were amazing.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
I mean though, they were the most incredible group of
people that watched out for us, were truly advocates, made
sure we were safe, made sure we were run on
the set too long. But I did a lot of
a lot of shows, especially back in New York, where
it was like some twenty two year old kid that
was trying to get a degree or something like that
and didn't really care and just go read a book
that'll be school. And I'd sit there and smoke a

(53:59):
sick I mean, it just it was that there was
a lot that didn't care about you.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
We just got super lucky on Boy that we had
the most amazing teachers in the world.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
And for the most part the teachers were good, but
you had some that just weren't. But well, that interview
went differently than I thought. I wanted to get more
into the free willie, but hey, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 9 (54:15):
Man?

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Breaking your foot coming back? I mean.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
When I was on our last tour, I tore my
tendon in my ankle and had to be on stage
that next night. But that was me not wanting to be.
They said, well, we can get a wheelchair. You can
kind of like wheel out and like do whatever. And
I was like, no, the fans didn't come to see

(54:42):
me just hanging out. They came to see me dance,
So this is what I'm gonna do. That was me right,
like being on set, like a set like that, Like,
and I wasn't a minor. I was in my twenties.
I was making my own decisions. You're talking about a minor, Yeah,
being having.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
And you just she's right, You just that's why you
keep working. When you were a kid, you kept working
because you kept your mouth shut. You could answer the line,
you could say the lines, you knew, you had a
great memory, you were funny, you're easy to work with,
and you didn't make ways. And those are the kids
that kept working all the time. You were a people pleaser.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
And so easy to get a bad rep.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Yep, and it leads it leads to uh to being
a very interesting kind of adult. I still find myself
stopping myself from being a people pleaser.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
It's like, no, I have a problem with this. Speak up,
but you didn't do that.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
In the guided me within the short amount of time
you've been friends, like you've guided me.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Like you're sinking into that exactly either way, You're.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
Not like, yeah, you're not a kidding anymore, like speak up,
you should say something.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
And so I have to do I repeat that to
myself all the time too.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
But well, thank you everybody for joining us for this
Park Copper episode with another awesome interview with Dan Haill Harris.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Don't forget on this feed.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
We are getting a brand new show that is joining
the Magical Rewind family, We are getting get you ahead
in the game.

Speaker 6 (56:01):
Wi.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Your ahead in the game is to get.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
You ahead of the game, which is Bart Johnson talking
to everybody having everything to do with High School Musical Lucky.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
We got to scrape, we scratched, scratched the surface. But
he's deep diving.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
He's he's a straight up killer whale diving there at
the bottom.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
He's shamooing it.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
So uh yes, thank you so much, and don't forget
to join us next time for Descendants two. Yes, a
very excited banger to see the big singing and dancing
and all the stuff.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
I gotta watch the first one again because if.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Your memory serves it's it's been a minute.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
It's been a while a minute. I'm gonna have to
watch the first one, but we'll go from there. Thank
you so much everybody, and we'll see you next time.

Speaker 6 (56:41):
Bye bye, Hey Wildcats, it's Bart Johnson. You made me
as Coach Bolton from the High School Musical franchise. Can

(57:02):
you believe it's been almost twenty years since we first
hit the course at Old East High. Well celebrate.

Speaker 10 (57:08):
I'm sitting down with some of your favorite cast members, producers, dancers,
choreographers and or to bring you the ultimate behind the
scenes look at high school musical So Wildcats. Join me
on my new podcast, get your Head in the Game,
and let's go back to where it all began. Listen
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wherever you get your podcasts.

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