March 24, 2025 • 48 mins
Everyone’s favorite best friend is here! Jennifer Stone joins Will and Sabrina to talk about her time on “Wizards of Waverly Place”, the Disney Channel Games and her career now as an ER nurse.
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome to this park Opper episode of Magical Rewind and
we are so excited today as we are every week,
but this one is going to be a ton of
fun because we're with Jennifer Stone. Yay, Welcome and thank
you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Of course, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
We're here because you're one of the Disney Channel ogs
like Lully on on Mondies.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Okay, you guys were like my generation of Disney Channel.
And I feel like it's like SNL where it's always
like the general like we all have our generation, right,
so like for me, everyone's I think to be honest,
which maybe this is like not kosher to say, but whatever,
I think I was like the end of Disney Channel.
I feel like you guys were like like my peak
at least.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Well that's fair, very sweet.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I think the first thing we need to ask you
before we get into everything else is the most important
question was did you do the Disney Channel games?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I did, I did Team I don't. I don't. I
think we. I don't think we did. We overlap because
I I'm trying to remember what year I went.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I I know Selena was there, Yeah for sure, and
it was like it was right right right when Camp Rocks.
So Selena and Demi were.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
There then yeah, then I had to have been there.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I think. I feel like you guys all came in
and we were like okay, like coming in, you know,
they give us these remember it was American apparel outfits
that we will yes, oh.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
My god, and then the thing it was hot as hell.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I know, yeah we were, and they gave us all
the all the gear like it was like you got
a pair of pants, socks, shorts, tops, jackets, think thing,
and you kind of could bring your own styles. So
then like dem Me and you guys all come out
with your like like you you used your wristbands as
like headband, and you guys are looking like so cool,
hipster fresh, and we were like, all right, I think
(02:09):
we've officially became the grandma.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Dude. Isn't an upsetting It happens to all of us
because it's of Wizards where I was like, which I've
always been like an internal grandma anyway, so I'm kind
of used to it. But like towards the end of Wizards,
I remember being like, oh crap, like I'm we're the
grandma's now. Like I had the same feelings. So it
comes for all of us.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, it did.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
It was just kind of like, I mean, you guys
came out with like your socks all high, and we're
just like, oh, okay, we're doing Oh we pull the
socks up. Okay, I was wearing them like regular socks.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well it's like now it's like it's all come full
circle because I'm going off my ankle socks as like
a millennial and people are like, oh no, that's so
like I don't even think. It's like, I don't even
remember that. I'm not gonna say this slang it makes
me But what color were you? I was the green team,
I was yellow yellow?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Okay, all right, he was the good team. You were
the good team, right.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Jason Dolly was on your time, Sir Jason.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
We united him by the way he's done. He's done
so many he did so many wonderful decoms that he's
been knighted officially. So, Sir Jason Dolly, I.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Know, so, yes, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
He will not reply to anything else anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
But we also we had a little bit of a
rift because apparently there was a big throwdown A Simon says,
throw down between Jason's between Jason Earls and Jason Dolly.
I can see it to which Jason Earls won, But
to this day, Jason Dolly claims he's the actual winner.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
You know, Will, I'll be honest with you. That was
the year that I went. That I remember was the
year that they like brought in a lot of like
in Sabrina. You remember they brought in like a lot
of like the International Disney Channel people. Yes, so the
hormones were flowing. I was just trying to flirt with
the British guys. Like the games were like a side.
I wasn't focused on that.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I was telling Will. I was like, man, where the
actual the actual show was at that there was like
one jacuzzie and we was another. We all were like Keely,
Adrian and I remember we were sitting there going these
all of you guys were like so cute, like giving
your best like shots at like being flirty and whatever,
(04:13):
and you guys were so adorable, and we were like, oh,
we should probably go because we're so much older than
these kids, Like this is starting to get a little
we should go.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Let's hookups. Were people hooking up at the Disney Channel game?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
You were, I wasn't because I was like a little man.
I still don't know how to flirt, but like you know,
I'm just like I like you. It's on, like that's
how I flirt, which is apparently very terrifying to men,
but like especially as like a weird sixteen year old
that like cut my own bangs. Yeah it was. I
was not. I was not the vibe, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
How much actually went down, but it was definitely a
lot of chemistry and like she said, a lot of
hormones flowing and regardless no matter what if anything actually
did or did not happen, it was probably an Adrian
and I tod it just felt inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
We just because Sabrina, how old were you?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I was in my twenties. I was like twenty by
the time we did that one.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
You're ancient, your Disney Channel.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Ancient, just like kick you out twenty three.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Oh myky So your.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Frontal lobe was like two years come in in the mail.
Mine was like a long time. Mine was like ten.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
No, So literally, like yeah, I was like twenty three,
and you're talking about like sixteen seventeen year olds like
flirting and you ages is like we gotta.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Gotta excuse yourself. She excused herself. I did. I was like,
I've started measuring people by like kitchen apparently, like I mean,
give or take a few years, but your frontal lobe
like comes in at twenty five. Yeah, so like I've started,
like now in my thirties. I'm like, okay, I'm not
unless you're I measure it from twenty five on. So
if you guys like twenty six or twenty six, I'm like, cool,
their frontal lobe has been has arrived in the mail
(05:55):
for a year. Fantastic. So yeah, I don't blame you
for being like I'm gonna ex came from this hot
tong situation.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
During the day, we hung out. It was cool. We
did all the games. It was super fun. We got
to do stage stuff all that. We all got to
go to the parks together. It was it was awesome,
It really was. It was just like but then you know,
when it started getting like Disney after Dark, we were like, ah,
we gotta go.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Oh god, I know we all had our generation. I'll
say this one last thing and then we'll get off
the d com. Well, I'm sorry, I don't think you
guys had those at the time, and I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
The real Olympics were only three years old when when
we were around, so yeah, yeah, we were much different generation.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
But I remember, I'll never forget because like we had
we were lucky enough to have like the VIP guides
and then go backstage at Disney. But it was the
first time I ever saw Cinderella eating a HOGI because
like we were no, no, that was euphemism, no, like
it was we were in I remember we were in
a golf cart and we were trying to like go
back to like a different part of Disney World, and
I remember, like we're not supposed to see like you
(06:58):
never see them break character, like even at events and
stuff like I remember at like some finding Nemo ride
opening or something. I tried to talk to Dorry, like, hey,
you know, how's your workday gone. She's like it's bubbally,
I'm fantastic. I'm like, shut up, don't stop. But I
remember seeing like Cinderella on our lunch break, and my
something in my brain just like broke. It was like
the best thing ever to see like Cinderella just like
(07:18):
chowing down.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, my god, Okay, wait, so let's go back then
let's let's take us back to the beginning. Yeah, let's
take this back. When when did you find the industry?
How did you become an actor? Take us back to
where it all started.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Well, geez, well, I started when I was six. My
family still jokes that it's a hobby that got like
wildly out of control because my brother was addicted to
video games, and so my mom said, you have to
find a hobby that's not video games for the summer,
and he picked acting, and so I got dragged to
every rehearsal for and he ended up being Jim Finch
and To Kill the mocking Bird at his first audition.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Which he was always that way.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
He always got like the lead, and I like remember
taking my little briefcase to his age for like three years,
being like I can read now, but like I so
I can never hear that courtroom scene in to Kill
Mockingbird again. But I got dragged all the rehearsals and
fell in love with theater. And I'm a total theater kid,
total musical and there is Sabrina like just you know something,
(08:16):
I was a really shy kid and something like there
was something very cathartic about performing and something about it
helped me to like understand myself in humanity, and it
also just helped me like get out all the things
I felt too, like overthinking or anxious to get out.
So yeah, so my mom like drove me out to
California for like one summer, being like, oh, she'll get
(08:38):
this out of her system. And then I just kept working.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
So what was your first job?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Oh, it's, you know, my first big job. Do you
want to know my first job or like my first
big job? Well? Yeah, both, Okay, Well my first job
ever was this commercial called Got a Dance Girls, which
was a Mattel toy. I think that like never got
off the ground because she looked like she was having
a seizure. Like there wasn't really like she just like
(09:06):
went like this, like she really danced. She's like there
was a remote we were supposed to be able to
control like her motions, and she just didn't really.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
She just kind of wait, what do I have to
google this?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
What's it called Gotta Dance Girl? Not find it?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I promise you it's called Gotta Dance Girls? And like,
I think my line was like so cool, and I
was wearing like an orange shirt and like pigtails. So
it was prepping me for Disney before I knew it.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, we guys just on zech going what the hell is?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I mean no, I was excited to be on set.
We got McDonald like. I was just excited to be
on set, and and I thought I had hit it
big in Texas doing this like weird toy commercial.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well the toy looks creepy. I'm now looking at the toy.
The toy looks super creepy.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
No, it was very creepy all of a sudden, like
they gave it to us, and I was like, I
don't I'm good, like weld to play with it.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Just take my check, please, you'll.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Just just give me the McDonald's this one.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yes, yes, Oh my god, I can't believe you. So
it was just my giant boots.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Horrifying, horrifying. Yeah, well it was like the early two thousand, Yeah,
of course. And then my first like big job, which
I still haven't done anything bigger was I did a
movie called Secondhand Lines with Michael Caine, Robert dufal and
Hailey Joe Osma. Was like a yeah, well, and I
was nine, So I went up to Michael Kain and
(10:25):
was like I loved you in misci Geniality because that's
so I knew him from like god, Like I literally
it's one of those things where'm like, I wish I
had like my frontal lobe in the mail and could
go and have relived bad experience.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
But he probably didn't even remember what movie that was.
It was his nine hundredth movie, Miss, so it was like,
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And I was so sweet and innocent that, like Robert
Duvall had his very young wife on sat with him
and I was like, oh, look it's his daughter. My
mom's like, don't say that to him, and I was like,
I was like, I was like, how.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Old are you at this boy?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I was nine? Oh my god, I know okay, and
his wife was probably nineteen at the time. Probably was
this something that you knew you were going to do
for the rest of your life or wanted to do
or was it just yeah, I was one of those few.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I mean, I have a lot of like child actor
friends because we all have like a shared I hate
to say trauma, but kind of yeah, like a shared
experience that's kind of unspoken. Sure, but I was sadly
I'm one of the few that, like my my parents
didn't push it, like my mom even like Wizard. The
first season of Wizards was challenging for a few different reasons,
(11:39):
and my mom was like, we can walk. We can walk, Like,
if you don't want to do the show anymore, we
can and she it's always like, it's one of the
reasons I'm not crazy, Like it's one of the reasons,
well relatively, but one of the reasons, like I didn't
really go by the wayside was because my parents just
wanted me to be happy. And even to this day,
my mom's like, why do you still want to do this?
(12:01):
And I'm like, with the business the way it is,
sometimes I don't know, but it's it's the only thing
that really lights me up. Why I don't know, but
I'm one of those actors where I'm like, I wish
I could find something that does the same thing for me.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
But that's how you know you are where you're supposed
to be. Though it's one of those things where it's
not it's like we were just talking of friends and
I were talking about being a stand up where it's like, yeah,
it's almost like you can't not do it if you're
a stand up, that's what you have to do. And
I think if you're an actor, it's you can't not
do it. Even if you do other things, you still
don't get the feeling that you do when you're entertaining, truly,
(12:35):
and it's a different thing.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
It's just a different it's a different energy, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I mean, so how did you then? How did Disney
come into your life?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Well? I was never a Disney kid. In fact, they
wouldn't even like bring me into audition until and I
like did a bunch of drama. I was very much
a very like bougie actor kid, where I was like,
I only want to do drama. I just want to
do serious stuff like watching girls interrupted in like Monsters Ball,
way too young, Monster Monster, the one Charlie sound yeah Monster,
(13:07):
but not Monster's Ball that I was not allowed to
see that vaccine But anyway, nor do I want to now?
But anyway, Yeah, So I got this audition for a
pilot with Vanessa Hudgens, Brandon Smith moistus Arius about like
a bus that just like went around, Like we just
filmed in a bus that just like went around. We
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all had motion signess. It was the experience, but like
it was about everything happened on the bus and it
was right after I remember Vanessa talking about high school
musical and the more she talked about it, I was like,
this isn't going to get picked up. They've got bigger
plans for her, like this is not that broke down
so many times, like it was not so and I
I played a character that was similar to Harper and
(13:51):
so once I mean, you know how it is, once
you're in with Disney and they like you, like they
tend to use the same people, kind of like the
studio system back in the day. And so I was
in that kind of you know pool that they pulled
from and the Wizard's audition came through and I actually
auditioned for Alex initially, and they then they asked me
(14:14):
to audition for Harper, but it was a reoccurring at
the time, and I was like, look, I can't afford
to I still was living in Texas. I was like,
I can't afford to move to LA on a recurring salary.
I just can't. Yeah, So they were like, well, come
down and test for Alex, which was I think in hindsight,
was a total like move, like it, which is fine.
(14:38):
So I was pissed because I was dressed for Alex,
like I'm the kind of actor I was like, I
want to dress for the part. I wanted like all
the kind of stuff. So I did all this prep
for Alex and then they handed me Harper as a
cold read and then I went in and cold read
with Selena.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So so you did, so you read with Selena?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, what was your guys's chemistry? Like like audition?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Was it like instant?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Well, weirdly, I don't know if you guys know this.
So I lived Leanna and I had never met, but
like I was really close with Demi and we lived
ten minutes apart from each other in Texas, so we
immediately had that like oh my god, you're from Texas
and Demi and like we have that mutual friend that
was like her best friend. And so it was this
kind of immediate like just dissolved any sort of like
awkward first meeting stuff because we had the Disney Texas
(15:20):
factory connection.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
That's awesome. That's very cool, especially to go in and
because I mean then you go in and you know,
you walk away and you're like, look, I did the
best I can it's gonna happen or it's not.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah. And also like Disney had been trying to find
her a pilot for years. I mean the year prior
I think they had given her she had had a
pilot that was like the Miranda spin off from Lazy
McGuire the year before, and then that year she was
in two pilots, like they were trying to find her
a show, which I get. I totally get. She was
so lovable and so I still is and so cute
(15:55):
and like, you know, so yeah, I knew that she
had the part the moment I so I was like, well, hope,
we hope we click, and we did, thankfully.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
That's good. Now were you were you a Disney fan
before you ever auditioned for Okay, no, so you weren't
watching d COM's or any of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
She was watching things like Monster and Girls.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I know, but I mean, you can you can have
the balance.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
She was not watching Lizzie McGuire, okay, or even Steven did.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I watched Lizzy McGuire. I watched That's a Raven I did.
I watched like My President's Daughter and things like that.
I did kind of miss I was. I was off
of it by the time that Cheetah Girls kind of
came around, So I'm sorry, that's okay to be honest,
but I I used to, like, once I got over Disney,
I used to turn the volume down and make them
say like really inappropriate things. So I do think it's
(16:46):
really funny that I ended up on the channel. It's
just like God's sense of humor. But you know, I
definitely had my like I didn't miss it. I mean,
I will totally nerd out here. I have the total
whole box set of Boy Meets World, like it was
for sure. I loved that show, and there was a
lot of like the like the True Confessions.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
We just watched literally just watch that.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I missed see.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
But but it was that like generation in Disney were
like they really and and cheer Girls did too, like
they kind of hit some of like the hard hitting
stuff too. But I feel like after that it got
a little fluffyer and that's where I kind of fell
off and started just like making fun of it.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
So I'm dying to know what you would have the
characters say to each other that was so inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I can't tell you that I can't tell you that.
It was a lot of four a lot of words. Oh,
it was a lot of things that I should have
been joking about. Probably at the time I was joking
about it.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
How how old were you when you booked waivers?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Waivers?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, wizards, really wizards, it's the.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
One with the w's. Don't worry about it. I was, yeah,
I like waivers, sign this waiver. I was thirteen started,
and then fourteen I think once we got picked up,
and then it was for teen to eighteen. So it
was my high school.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Okay, but now when did you find out then that
it wasn't going to be reoccurring? I mean, because again
you were like, I can't, I can't move there for
a reason offered me the part, and so they knew
at that point they said you're you'll be.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
A regular because I said to my age, I said
to my because my mom. I mean, like I said,
I was thirteen at the time. So when they offered
me the part, my mom and had talked to me
about it too. She's like, look, this is the deal,
and I was like, okay, well that makes sense. So
she went to my agent and was like, look, you
got to tell him. They got to make it a
series regular or we can't do it. Yeah, and he's like,
are you sure, Like nobody really does that to Disney
because there's always somebody waiting in the wings to take
(18:35):
your place. And my mom was like, we can't, like,
we don't have an option. Like I was at the
point where I would have to have quit because we
were going back and forth from Texas and California, and
thankfully they liked me enough to bump it up nice.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Do you remember now, as a child actor, you obviously
wanted this role. Do you remember the feeling of I
might lose this because we can't do the reoccurring that's terrified.
I mean, it's a terrifying feeling.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, I mean I was. I'll never forget it. We
were staying at a set teacher's house who actually ended
up doing the set teaching for the first year. We
were dogs sitting because that was the only way we
could afford to stay there. It was like a god sense.
They literally like we I met her on an episode
of House that I did and she was like, Hey,
I have to go shoot this thing. Will you house
it for us? And I'll have you stay there for free,
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and my mom was like, we can't afford housing out
in California. So it worked perfectly. And I remember being
there and just being like, what an incredible, like god
thing of just like putting that in my life right
at the moment that like, I was gonna have to
once I wrapped this episode, I was gonna have to
go home and try to figure out how to get
work back in Texas. And so I was about her
house when I found out.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Wow, so this was like intermitting with your audition process
for it. That's amazing. Oh my gosh, how cool. Do
you remember where you were? So you said you were
at her house. Do you remember, like I remember getting
the call and knowing like I booke the Cheetah girls,
like I remember exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that moment, because
what was that for you?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It just it just was disbelief. It was disbelief because,
like I said, I and I waxed poetic about it
all the time. I love what I do so much,
and it was the chance to get to do it
every day. Yeah, and at the time, like it's not
so much this way anymore with streaming and everything. At
the time, you got guaranteed four years unless something catastrophic happened,
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you know, So it's like nine times out of ten,
your show was going to go for four years. And
so I knew that. I was like, And it was
also relief as well, is because like I I was,
like I said, I was in this place at a
young age where I was like, Okay, I love this
thing so much and I might not be able to
do it anymore. So now I can, you know, now
I'm able to. And so it was. It was just
it was disbelief and relief and all the thiefs and.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So how long after the show started did you realize
what it was becoming? I mean it seemed to Yeah,
happened pretty quickly, right, it was.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
So we got lucky. Our first season was totally dark,
so like it hadn't art. We shot the whole first
season without it airing, so it wasn't until we came
back for the second season. It's so clear in my mind.
I have such black holes in my memory, but like
some of them are so clear. We did a signing
in New York. We went up for like upfronts and
like a couple of like talk shows or whatever, and
(21:26):
we did this signing in New York and there were
like people lined up in the rain, and I remember
being like, that's so weird, like who are they here
to see? Like I just remember being like so confused
as to why they were there. And that was when
everything kind of changed. But I'm so thankful that that
first season we could just spend getting to know each
other and getting to really build this like family thing
(21:47):
with the crew. I mean that casting crew is just
we lucked out. We got a great group of people.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, I'm still trying to think about the feeling of
seeing all of the people in the rain waiting for
you and truly knowing like what are they What are
they here for?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah? For us? No, I mean because in my mind
I had never I had worked a lot, but it
was never on stuff that I ever thought people were
going to see. Like I just I had this kind
and I still do. I still have this like indie
actor mindset, and that's the bougie part, but like where
I'm just like, oh, I just make it because I
love it and no one will ever see it and
that's fine. And so it still blows my mind to
(22:27):
be a part of something that was impactful for people like,
that's such a gift that I never anticipated.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Wow, you guys must have the craziest stories on set.
Is there anything that always when you reflect on your
time on set, is there any like funny story that
just always immediately jumps out at you as far? I mean,
I'm sure there's a ton.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Of them, but yeah, there's I mean that's such that's
such a broad question. Yeah, I mean we have a ton.
Let me think. I remember we had this one episode
with with David Copperfield, and I remember we all had
to sign like NDA's because like because we got to
see like how his magic tricks. We okay, like how
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so that was the whole thing, is like we couldn't play.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
A second those are tricks.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
On ironic thing too, is like I've never been a
magic person, Like I don't like magic shows because it
feels like trickery and I don't like feel it being
like f lied to and that's what that feels like
to me. But yeah, it was just like a weird
I don't know. It was just strange because like we
started having people like you know, Rob Bryaner or Sylvester
Stallone or Cynde Crawford, and like we had freaking Kaya
(23:35):
Gerber on set when she was like a little nugget,
you know what I mean. So it's like we had
these people, I don't know. It was strange because it
felt like it was ours. It felt like it was
our little family, and then these like people would come
in that you were just like, why what are you?
It just I don't know. It still breaks my life.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
And a lot of them probably had like kids that
were fans of the channel and fans of the show
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, I don't think Rob Ryaner was watching Waiver.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Could have been, but he could have been watch you
never know.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Take us to your dressing room? Did you get to
just to decorate it? Oh yeah, you yeah, to take
us there? What was in your dressing room? Tell me everything?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Okay, I mean it was the typical like four by
four with for some reason, it was always a navy couch.
We had all navy couches. Mine was right next and
we switched studios because Sunny with the Chance took over
our old studio. But both times, like Selena and I
were either across from each other or we were right
next to each other, and we were always just in
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each other's dressing room, and I remember, I don't remember
specifically like what, I just remember I had this white
shag rug. That's what I remember. I had a white
shag rug. Yeah, that's and then I think I had
like I was big into like magazine collages, so like
I had like some magazine collides that I had put up. Okay, okay,
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typical sixteen year old stuff. Yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Was there a crush on your magazine?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
For was a crush every week? I mean I literally,
I mean maybe it was the downside of I was
gonna say, I don't know if I can say that
on here, but I was like it was the downside
of like having the costumes that I had on the show.
It was great for comedy, but a total block.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Just like that was what.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I don't know if I can say or not I have,
you know, but like Sweena would have a new crush
every week, because like that was the whole thing, right,
and you know, my character was not the most flattering,
which is fine, it was all for the comedy, but
but I'll never forget there was a crush that I had.
And I invited him to set and I was wearing
like a giant cactus for some reason with like a nubbin. Yeah,
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and I remember seeing him like walk in and like
talk to a couple of people, and then he left,
and I just was like, okay, Like I mean I
still like so I totally got blocked by the cactus,
but like there was a lot of costumes that it
wasn't until later that I was that I you know
what I mean, Like it wasn't the most sip to
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my teenage dating life for sure, but yeah, no, I
had a crush on every new Alex.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It drives me crazy watching these d coms because when
I was on the channel, I felt like I was
like head to toe covered. I mean I had four
different shirts, one five to six bangles on each thing,
gloves at least on one hand. Yeah, I heard I
was if I was wearing a skirt or address of
any sort. I for sure had leggings on like I
(26:26):
I was. And then and then now I see these
the more recent d cooms, and I'm just like, where
is what was the standards in practice?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Excuse me? Standards in practice? We need to get over here.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Her neckline is way too low.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
No, so Selena has like a mole like on her
chest and that was their marker, like they couldn't go
below the mole, like if her mole was showing, it
was too low cut. Oh and we had a whole
thing with like David, like David's pants could never be
too tight, even though we wanted them to be too tight.
But yeah, so we always had.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Like things like yeah, because you're young and you're like
finding like I said, you guys came to the Disney
Channel games and like up the ante of these like
ugly uniforms that we're wearing making them look cool. You know,
that's where you were at that age of like figuring
it out a way, like Okay, you're gonna give me this.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
You always want to be a bigger you know, so
you're always trying to like you know, which I think
back now and is like so weird that like you're
trying to be sexy, like you don't know what that is.
It's like, get out of here.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
I still don't know what that is. I'm almost fifty same.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Same, I'm still trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Okay, So you're shooting the movie and then you hear
that they're going to make it make a decom. They're
gonna they're going to do a movie. How did you
find out about that? And why weren't you in it?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
More cool with? So this was part of my first
season was challenging. Was and as an adult, like because
I've gotten better obviously at this point, I hope so
of going okay, it's a business and like not certain
things personally, but as a teenager, that's really hard to do.
So I can see their initial approach with Wizards was
(28:08):
to focus on the family, and I was supposed to
be a reoccurring part. So in the first season I
kind of got treated like reoccurring because that was always
their plan, was to build the families. But at the time,
I was a teenager and I just felt like I
was left out. So like they would have press, they
would have photo shoots with just the family, which was
like the five series regulars, and then me not involved,
and so there was a lot like it just it
(28:29):
was hard. It was hard at fourteen to be left out.
And so they came up with this idea between first
and second season, I believe, for this DCM movie. But
weirdly they didn't have our writers write it, and so like, yeah,
it was really strange. They didn't have our writers write it,
and it was I remember our Peter Marietta like got it.
(28:49):
And he was like, so you got all the characters
doing opposite, so like this character is acting like this character,
and this character like it was someone who clearly had
seen like one episode of the show. Yeah, and so
he kind of like went in and like helped you
tool it a little bit. And yeah, I mean, like
I said, I I was in like the New York
section of the movie. So they were all in Puerto
Rico for a month, and I went down there for
(29:10):
three days. So it was kind of adjunct to that
sort of like sixth player sort of blacksheet thing from
the first season, which which got resolved and got better
like in the second through the fourth season, but it
was kind of like an adjunct to that because it
was between the first and second.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, well that wasn't your only role in the d
com because we also just did Dad Napped.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yes, okay, you're going to bring up my other favorite
d com, which is Harriet the Spy Blog Wars.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
No, we haven't done that one yet, so.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Excuse me. The list nobody wanted, like we're going.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
To be watching it now and bringing that right, it's
called Harriet the Spy.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
One blog was like really big, okay, okay, yeah, going
on the list, it was it's not it's not my proudest.
It's not my proudest.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Dad napped your proudest because that movie was that crazy
it was.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
It's true. I was just on the but I was
just a boy, so run d I know what it was.
I went on to Emily a few years after the fact,
and I think she totally forgot I was in it.
Like it was so like because because I I went
down to Utah was where they filmed everything. I'm sure
Jason talked about that, but I filmed like a scene
that they ended up like cutting from the movie because
(30:34):
it was just like where are you going? Like it
was a very knocking fuss kind of part, and then
they cut me out and I was just like the
voice on the phone and dad not and then I
said something. I was like, oh, yeah, you remember in Utah.
She's like, what you weren't there? And I was like
I was impressions. One of the things I love about her,
(30:54):
She's straight into the point. It's crazy, totally bonker.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
It was like an acid trip.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
That entire film did Paul Who and the or the
director of it. Did he ever come and do any
episodes on your show? Did you know him prior to that?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
No, that was a one off. I literally went to
Tom met him, had a great like a couple of
days and then.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
He's done a million of these dcoms and he's so good.
But I do know that he was. He also did
a little bit on even Stevens, So I wasn't sure
how much he's flip flopped into the TVs or the
you know, the shows a dcms.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
We had more because I know, like Fred Savage did
a ton of them, so like we had more of
him he came on and did We had like Mark
Sindrawski came a lot, We had Bob cohaer Uh, Victor
Gonzalez like those were kind of the directors. We had
a lot, and then like a couple one offs here
right in there. But no, we didn't have any overlap
with him. But there's some people. It's like Hallmark in Lifetime,
Like dcoms are like such a specific genre. So like
(31:52):
when you get down that style, whether it's you're as
a writer or as a director, like you can just
crank them out.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
You know right, they just keep pumping them out.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
For those two dcoms that you did, did you have
to audition or did they just bring those they just
offer them to you.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
No, I mean with like the with the Wizard's Dcon.
I mean I already had a full season of auditioning
for that one, and then No, they just offered me
Dad Napped and they offered me Harriet the Spy.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I can't wait. I now cannot wait to see it's dude.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
There was a part where like it's so bad and
it's also too like it was that weird I had
such a round face when I was a kid, and
it was that weird like hair straightening thing that was
like super popular. So it's like this like basketball head
and it's just like orange stick straight hair. And then
I'm in glasses and like there's a part where like
I'm in like a again total acid trip. I was
(32:47):
in like a British military thing, like interrupting a dance sequence.
I don't Oh my god, it's much weird. It's my god,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I can't wait. So you are obviously also no stranger
to the world of podcasting, where you went and kind
of went back and looked at everything. What was that
like to see it again? Now that your frontal lobe
was delivered in the mail.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
It arrived be a FedEx. It was like an out
of body experience, I think with this much time, because
I mean we ended in twenty twelve, so I mean
it's been thirteen years and so and I've lived a
lot of life since then. That I it was like
watching somebody else. But I also to like have such
something Like I said, my memory can be kind of
(33:36):
shoddy where it's like I have black holes of memory
and then I have really specific memories and so but
I just remember looking back and just wanting to like
hug my like inner like child self, you know what
I mean, because like I just remember her being so
insecure about like because also too, like when Wizards started,
like social media had just become like a thing, and
so I've got a lot of stuff I was Also
(33:58):
it was that weird like two thousand in ten time
where like the super super skinny thing was in and
so like I got a lot of stuff about like
being fat online and like and I had like really
bad acne and like, and it's I just remember specifically
being like okay, like because it's hard not to compare,
and me and Selena were together so much the time,
(34:19):
and I remember thinking then, which I know, like again
it's what you see versus what's actually going on, but
I remember thinking, like, god, she just got taller and
her boobs got bigger, and I like, got I have
backne and like I just like I cut my own
bangs and like it was weird, Like yeah, so I
just remember feeling really awkward and I just want to
(34:39):
watching it back. I just wanted to go back and
hug her and be like you're good, dude, Like all
that stuff that you're just creating is like, so you're
not fat, Who cares if you have acne? You're thirteen,
Like it's fine, Like it so doesn't matter, you know.
That was the biggest thing that I remember, is looking
back and.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Just wanting to hug her. Well, growing up is hard enough,
but growing up in front of.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Is just yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
And social media, I'm so glad. Like I mean, I
feel like towards the end, Facebook and my Space were
my Space was a thing. Facebook was like just for
your college friends, Like yeah, that's as much as I
really got in the message boards. I remember same thing
on Dancing with the Stars. The message boards, I remember
(35:23):
being like I was like a size three and they
the way they talked about me was like I was
a size ten. Like but if you're not with a
with a short person body, you know that they were
acting like I was so much bigger than I was.
And it's just like those message boards were brutal. I
went on once or twice and then never again.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Never don't even don't do that stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
No, no, But I can't imagine being thirteen though I
was like in my twenties, like it was.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Bad, like it was something. It's something where now I
just kind of laugh about it. But like when I
was younger, because Twitter was like the big thing, and
like towards the end, Instagram came out and you know
it just and you would have to Twitter's the worst,
Like it's just the worst. It's literally like like ghosts
in the in the shadows, like just like saying stuff
about you and and and like I said, now I
(36:09):
find it hilarious, but like at the time, you don't again,
no fun to lob, what am I supposed to do
with that?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
And there's only so many times like you can lean
on your mom to be like, oh, it's okay, baby,
you know what I mean, Like it's just hitting you.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Constantly, right, and they're and they're dressing you like this.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, I know this out. You're such a good researcher.
This is okay.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I was not saying.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I was like, you multics like crazy talk block cactus.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Oh man, you can see it in your face too,
You're just like this is bull.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I was game for the costume, and I was like, gods,
water guards because like I said, I literally had like
a third nimple, like little tiny mini tactics, like very
like I was like, who put this air?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Like come on, that's so they knew that. So they
knew that they couldn't get your dress below that that
practice if you went too far below.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
You You are so stinking cute. Look at that face.
Oh my dness, you are adorable.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Face hasn't changed just when you were just too tired, Toddler.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
That's not true. When you were doing the podcast, is
there anything you learned that you were like wait what?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Oh? Yeah, really, which I'm sure you guys have too
through this podcast, because you have conversations with people and
there's something that's like great but also kind of lethal
about the podcast medium is because people feel like we're
just in the living room talking, right, and it's great
for ratings but bad for some people, you know. But
but there was something I remember one of the bigger
things that we learned. We had a lot of like
(37:45):
really healing conversations of like stuff that there's no chance
to talk about or like you would talk about with
a teenager that you came with an adult. But like
there was some of the crazier stuff is like some
of the plot lines that didn't happen, so like I know,
like there was something where it was just a little
bit ahead of its time, where like they wanted to
kind of explore bisexuality with Alex and like they wanted
to do the ending differently. Yeah, So there was a
(38:09):
lot of things that we learned about, like storylines that
just never happened that we're really that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
And then and then you went and became a nurse.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yes, you a makist from I'm a Masochist from Every
Angle actor nurse. I just love the pande.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
How how did you get there? What happened there?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I you know, I so okay, I'll try to like
spark note it I twenty. I was, so the show
ended when I was eighteen. At twenty, I started to
have some health issues and got diagnosed with type one
diabetes over a four year span, because it's typically something
that's diagnosed when you're younger. So I was like misdiagnosed,
like not treated correctly as far as like medications and
(38:51):
stuff over that like four years. So I experienced a
lot of doctors, a lot of nurses in that timeframe.
And I was going to college for psychology at the time,
and so I just decided, I was like, Okay, I
know I still want to act, let me take a
break focus on my getting my health in order, and
then I want to switch my major. I want to
switch to nursing because I've always been interested in health
(39:12):
science sciences and it was a way that I could
help people in that because in that four year period,
I really experienced feeling uncertain about what was going on
with my own body and not seen as well for
like what I was experiencing, and I wanted to do
something on my off time because with acting at ebbs
and flows of that would help other people, you know,
(39:36):
because I understood firsthand that experience. So I went to school.
I took a break out my health in order. I
went to school and then you know, life is funny.
December twenty nineteen, I graduated and I was like, okay,
going to get back to acting, got to get really
get back in there. And then I started. I started
the week after the Safer at Home order was announced
(39:58):
in LA for COVID, And so it was a baptism.
It was a baptism by fire, baptism by fire. And
also to like the approach with acting, like I was
an open wound. I was all about like emotions and
let us feel everything as an actor and as a nurse,
you can't do that. It's not sustainable. So to go
right into the pandemic is this like open wound, like
just super empathetic, wanting to like help everybody and being
(40:22):
around like not to bring it down, but like being
around that much death and stuff like it was really hard.
And so like there's still there's blocks of my memory
that are missing from that, and I'm sure it's like a.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
It's from yeah, yeah, yeah, So you were actually an
emergency room nurse during COVID, weren't you?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah? I mean I still am. I still and everybody
thinks I quit acting. I didn't.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I just do both.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
But yeah, I was an emergency room nurse a right, and.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
You're still an emergency room nurse in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yep, right across from ABC. Ironically, there's a couple of
like the twenty first twenty first floor people that I've singing,
like the volunteer and like, you know, donate to the hospital.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
And do you ever have people come in and recognize you? Like,
wait min all the time? Really all the time?
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yea, God be wild.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
I mean I used to be like in the height
of the pandemic, in full Ppe, so like nothing is
showing of my face, but I've been told it's my voice.
I've been told I have a very distinct voice. Yeah.
So like I'd be in full Ppe and I'd be
like are you And I'm like how oh wow. But yeah,
it happens all the time. It's a little you know,
it's a it's a good thing overall because someone when
(41:39):
they come in to see me, they're having like the
worst day of gossibel, right, Like you don't feel good
when you go into the ear. And it's something where
it's like a little thing where I can make them
smile or it like makes them happy. I have had
some strange cases where I remember I had this girl
that was like, really adamant we make a TikTok together,
and I was like, I'm at work, like I can't
do that, and she was like, you don't appreciate the
people that got you.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Where are you kidding? I don't appreciate people. I'm a
r nurse.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I'm sorry that you're like, I'll medicate you and make
you feel better. But I guess the TikTok is too far.
I don't know it was just but like I said, overall,
it's really nice because it makes people. It makes people happy,
and I'm having a bad day.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
So stupid question. I'm sure you're not going to be
able to answer. Which one do you prefer?
Speaker 2 (42:25):
I prefer them for different things. My first level will
always be acting. It's like I said, it's the thing
that lights me up. It's the thing that makes me
feel the most like myself. But there's definitely I'm trying
to get the best word for it. There is a
vapidness or like a surface level part to the industry
that I really just have never related to. One of
my favorite things about being an actor is the honesty
(42:46):
of it, right, and so that kind of honesty, I've
never superficial, thank you. I'm like circling around a keywords.
But yeah, so like the superficiality aspect I really struggle with.
And so that aspect of nursing I really appreciate. And
I like being able to be there for people and
(43:06):
I like being able to to offer something because to
be honest, like sometimes acting feels really selfish and it
feels like something for me yea, And nursing is something
that I get to do for other people. So it's
a nice balance of the two. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Wow, wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Well thank you.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Could you imagine bad day?
Speaker 2 (43:24):
And then I couldn't even.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Like your favorite on TV.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
It's holding a thermometer and it's like, oh no, oh no.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I will tell you. I had a very weird moment
the other day. I was in a room with like
a pets patient and I looked up at the TV
and I was like, I guess that looks so familiar,
and it was the Wizard sequel on TV. But I
was like, this is this is too weird, this is
too like, how does this is too meta for me?
Speaker 1 (43:52):
How did you feel about that? By the way, how
did you feel about this the sequel the reboot.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
It's a sequel. It's a sequel because it doesn't have
any of our regional writers and most of our cast.
It's it's it's kind of like it's David Henry's thing. Yeah,
I feel you know, it's cool, like it's David Henry's thing.
Go to your go to your thing, asked Yeah, I mean,
I think I'm really protective of Harper. Like I've had
(44:19):
way too many people come up to me and it
was this for me as well, where they were like
you made it feel okay to be the weird kid.
You made it feel okay to be different. And so
I'm very protective of her. So I would love to
as long as like it honors her, I think, because
I don't know those writers. They're like the Ravens Home writers,
I think, and I know it's very easy and this
(44:41):
kind of happened with The Wizard's movie, where like they'll
make her the butt of the joke, and like, I'm
not cool with that because, like I said, because then
it makes people feel like, Okay, it's not okay to
be different. It's not okay, and so as long as
she's not the butt of the joke and it honors
that character, i'd love to.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Yeah, that's good, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah, of course, of course, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
You're gonna need one promise. If you can't one pinky promise,
I know what is good. Will you come back for Harriet?
Speaker 3 (45:16):
I mean blog wars, you gotta come.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
You guys are so lovely, and you guys are so
you guys will watch me cringe the whole time. Are
you gonna make me rewatch it?
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Though? No, that's totally up to you. It's totally up
to you.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Honestly, it helps for like, I know the interview process.
But if you can't, no, no, no, I'll rewatch it.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
It may not be as cringe as you think you honestly,
it is.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
It is.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
It might not, it might not. You might go more
to the what it was like film like that. When
I watched the first Cheeta Girls movie, I'm like, oh gosh,
I just can't there's so many things about myself, But
the entire time we watched Cheetah Girls, all I could
think of was I remember that day on set that
was so like, because I think it's different than the
TV show. It's like it's like, you know, six weeks
(46:02):
or whatever. You know, it's like real jamp and it's
just memory after memory after a memory. It might be
really actually fun for you.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah, and it's more of that like summer camp experience
for sure. And I have a few friends that have
been trying to get me to watch it with them,
so maybe the whole time.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Okay, so fun.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Well, thank you for joining us, and thank you so
much for going and helping people like you cod and
and everything else.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Just especially during that time of the world. We are
so brave and we without people like you, I mean,
who knows what we would have been where we would
be at. So you guys are incredible.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Thank you, Thank you guys, and we'll talk. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
See exactly, I have to see that movie. I know
it's got to be on the list. It's got to
happen soon.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
She was an e R nurse during COVID. Dude, craziness.
I mean, oh my gosh, wow crazy. I couldn't imagine.
I couldn't imagine.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
And again not just like what was happening in there,
but like knowing how much it was like everything was
just on such a high alert and the like she
said again, not to be super negative, but the amount
of death around you in time so crazy, so crazy.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
That's still not the thing I'm going to take most
from this interview. The thing I'm going to take most
of this interview will be Cactus Block. That's still going
to be the thing I'm going to take with me
more than anything.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
I love you Hope for forgetting that picture of sending
it straight to exactly where to go.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
I don't know if it was just.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
Because the visual was better than what my brain was
taking was way better.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Well, thank you everybody so much for joining us on
this episode, and thank you Jennifer for joining us. That
was really really cool, and we will see you next time.
I think the film that we're watching next time is
Ice Princess, I think is what we talk about. So yeah,
we're gonna go give a shout out to Michelle Trachtenberg,
who unfortunate just passed away. But we're gonna go watch
Ice Princess and talk about what it was like to
(48:06):
make another skate movie. Not a skate movie, man, Disney
does love their skate movies. Thank you so much for
joining us and we will see you next time. Bye everybody, Hi,
Welcome to this park Opper episode of Magical Rewind and
we are so excited today as we are every week,
but this one is going to be a ton of
fun because we're with Jennifer Stone. Yay, Welcome and thank
you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Of course, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
We're here because you're one of the Disney Channel ogs
like Lully on on Mondies.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Okay, you guys were like my generation of Disney Channel.
And I feel like it's like SNL where it's always
like the general like we all have our generation, right,
so like for me, everyone's I think to be honest,
which maybe this is like not kosher to say, but whatever,
I think I was like the end of Disney Channel.
I feel like you guys were like like my peak
at least.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Well that's fair, very sweet.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I think the first thing we need to ask you
before we get into everything else is the most important
question was did you do the Disney Channel games?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I did, I did Team I don't. I don't. I
think we. I don't think we did. We overlap because
I I'm trying to remember what year I went.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I I know Selena was there, Yeah for sure, and
it was like it was right right right when Camp Rocks.
So Selena and Demi were.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
There then yeah, then I had to have been there.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I think. I feel like you guys all came in
and we were like okay, like coming in, you know,
they give us these remember it was American apparel outfits
that we will yes, oh.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
My god, and then the thing it was hot as hell.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I know, yeah we were, and they gave us all
the all the gear like it was like you got
a pair of pants, socks, shorts, tops, jackets, think thing,
and you kind of could bring your own styles. So
then like dem Me and you guys all come out
with your like like you you used your wristbands as
like headband, and you guys are looking like so cool,
hipster fresh, and we were like, all right, I think
(02:09):
we've officially became the grandma.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Dude. Isn't an upsetting It happens to all of us
because it's of Wizards where I was like, which I've
always been like an internal grandma anyway, so I'm kind
of used to it. But like towards the end of Wizards,
I remember being like, oh crap, like I'm we're the
grandma's now. Like I had the same feelings. So it
comes for all of us.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, it did.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
It was just kind of like, I mean, you guys
came out with like your socks all high, and we're
just like, oh, okay, we're doing Oh we pull the
socks up. Okay, I was wearing them like regular socks.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well it's like now it's like it's all come full
circle because I'm going off my ankle socks as like
a millennial and people are like, oh no, that's so
like I don't even think. It's like, I don't even
remember that. I'm not gonna say this slang it makes
me But what color were you? I was the green team,
I was yellow yellow?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Okay, all right, he was the good team. You were
the good team, right.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Jason Dolly was on your time, Sir Jason.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
We united him by the way he's done. He's done
so many he did so many wonderful decoms that he's
been knighted officially. So, Sir Jason Dolly, I.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Know, so, yes, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
He will not reply to anything else anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
But we also we had a little bit of a
rift because apparently there was a big throwdown A Simon says,
throw down between Jason's between Jason Earls and Jason Dolly.
I can see it to which Jason Earls won, But
to this day, Jason Dolly claims he's the actual winner.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
You know, Will, I'll be honest with you. That was
the year that I went. That I remember was the
year that they like brought in a lot of like
in Sabrina. You remember they brought in like a lot
of like the International Disney Channel people. Yes, so the
hormones were flowing. I was just trying to flirt with
the British guys. Like the games were like a side.
I wasn't focused on that.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I was telling Will. I was like, man, where the
actual the actual show was at that there was like
one jacuzzie and we was another. We all were like Keely,
Adrian and I remember we were sitting there going these
all of you guys were like so cute, like giving
your best like shots at like being flirty and whatever,
(04:13):
and you guys were so adorable, and we were like, oh,
we should probably go because we're so much older than
these kids, Like this is starting to get a little
we should go.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Let's hookups. Were people hooking up at the Disney Channel game?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
You were, I wasn't because I was like a little man.
I still don't know how to flirt, but like you know,
I'm just like I like you. It's on, like that's
how I flirt, which is apparently very terrifying to men,
but like especially as like a weird sixteen year old
that like cut my own bangs. Yeah it was. I
was not. I was not the vibe, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
How much actually went down, but it was definitely a
lot of chemistry and like she said, a lot of
hormones flowing and regardless no matter what if anything actually
did or did not happen, it was probably an Adrian
and I tod it just felt inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
We just because Sabrina, how old were you?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I was in my twenties. I was like twenty by
the time we did that one.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
You're ancient, your Disney Channel.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Ancient, just like kick you out twenty three.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Oh myky So your.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Frontal lobe was like two years come in in the mail.
Mine was like a long time. Mine was like ten.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
No, So literally, like yeah, I was like twenty three,
and you're talking about like sixteen seventeen year olds like
flirting and you ages is like we gotta.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Gotta excuse yourself. She excused herself. I did. I was like,
I've started measuring people by like kitchen apparently, like I mean,
give or take a few years, but your frontal lobe
like comes in at twenty five. Yeah, so like I've started,
like now in my thirties. I'm like, okay, I'm not
unless you're I measure it from twenty five on. So
if you guys like twenty six or twenty six, I'm like, cool,
their frontal lobe has been has arrived in the mail
(05:55):
for a year. Fantastic. So yeah, I don't blame you
for being like I'm gonna ex came from this hot
tong situation.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
During the day, we hung out. It was cool. We
did all the games. It was super fun. We got
to do stage stuff all that. We all got to
go to the parks together. It was it was awesome,
It really was. It was just like but then you know,
when it started getting like Disney after Dark, we were like, ah,
we gotta go.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Oh god, I know we all had our generation. I'll
say this one last thing and then we'll get off
the d com. Well, I'm sorry, I don't think you
guys had those at the time, and I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
The real Olympics were only three years old when when
we were around, so yeah, yeah, we were much different generation.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
But I remember, I'll never forget because like we had
we were lucky enough to have like the VIP guides
and then go backstage at Disney. But it was the
first time I ever saw Cinderella eating a HOGI because
like we were no, no, that was euphemism, no, like
it was we were in I remember we were in
a golf cart and we were trying to like go
back to like a different part of Disney World, and
I remember, like we're not supposed to see like you
(06:58):
never see them break character, like even at events and
stuff like I remember at like some finding Nemo ride
opening or something. I tried to talk to Dorry, like, hey,
you know, how's your workday gone. She's like it's bubbally,
I'm fantastic. I'm like, shut up, don't stop. But I
remember seeing like Cinderella on our lunch break, and my
something in my brain just like broke. It was like
the best thing ever to see like Cinderella just like
(07:18):
chowing down.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, my god, Okay, wait, so let's go back then
let's let's take us back to the beginning. Yeah, let's
take this back. When when did you find the industry?
How did you become an actor? Take us back to
where it all started.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Well, geez, well, I started when I was six. My
family still jokes that it's a hobby that got like
wildly out of control because my brother was addicted to
video games, and so my mom said, you have to
find a hobby that's not video games for the summer,
and he picked acting, and so I got dragged to
every rehearsal for and he ended up being Jim Finch
and To Kill the mocking Bird at his first audition.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Which he was always that way.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
He always got like the lead, and I like remember
taking my little briefcase to his age for like three years,
being like I can read now, but like I so
I can never hear that courtroom scene in to Kill
Mockingbird again. But I got dragged all the rehearsals and
fell in love with theater. And I'm a total theater kid,
total musical and there is Sabrina like just you know something,
(08:16):
I was a really shy kid and something like there
was something very cathartic about performing and something about it
helped me to like understand myself in humanity, and it
also just helped me like get out all the things
I felt too, like overthinking or anxious to get out.
So yeah, so my mom like drove me out to
California for like one summer, being like, oh, she'll get
(08:38):
this out of her system. And then I just kept working.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
So what was your first job?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Oh, it's, you know, my first big job. Do you
want to know my first job or like my first
big job? Well? Yeah, both, Okay, Well my first job
ever was this commercial called Got a Dance Girls, which
was a Mattel toy. I think that like never got
off the ground because she looked like she was having
a seizure. Like there wasn't really like she just like
(09:06):
went like this, like she really danced. She's like there
was a remote we were supposed to be able to
control like her motions, and she just didn't really.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
She just kind of wait, what do I have to
google this?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
What's it called Gotta Dance Girl? Not find it?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I promise you it's called Gotta Dance Girls? And like,
I think my line was like so cool, and I
was wearing like an orange shirt and like pigtails. So
it was prepping me for Disney before I knew it.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, we guys just on zech going what the hell is?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I mean no, I was excited to be on set.
We got McDonald like. I was just excited to be
on set, and and I thought I had hit it
big in Texas doing this like weird toy commercial.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well the toy looks creepy. I'm now looking at the toy.
The toy looks super creepy.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
No, it was very creepy all of a sudden, like
they gave it to us, and I was like, I
don't I'm good, like weld to play with it.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Just take my check, please, you'll.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Just just give me the McDonald's this one.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yes, yes, Oh my god, I can't believe you. So
it was just my giant boots.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Horrifying, horrifying. Yeah, well it was like the early two thousand, Yeah,
of course. And then my first like big job, which
I still haven't done anything bigger was I did a
movie called Secondhand Lines with Michael Caine, Robert dufal and
Hailey Joe Osma. Was like a yeah, well, and I
was nine, So I went up to Michael Kain and
(10:25):
was like I loved you in misci Geniality because that's
so I knew him from like god, Like I literally
it's one of those things where'm like, I wish I
had like my frontal lobe in the mail and could
go and have relived bad experience.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
But he probably didn't even remember what movie that was.
It was his nine hundredth movie, Miss, so it was like,
I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And I was so sweet and innocent that, like Robert
Duvall had his very young wife on sat with him
and I was like, oh, look it's his daughter. My
mom's like, don't say that to him, and I was like,
I was like, I was like, how.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Old are you at this boy?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I was nine? Oh my god, I know okay, and
his wife was probably nineteen at the time. Probably was
this something that you knew you were going to do
for the rest of your life or wanted to do
or was it just yeah, I was one of those few.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I mean, I have a lot of like child actor
friends because we all have like a shared I hate
to say trauma, but kind of yeah, like a shared
experience that's kind of unspoken. Sure, but I was sadly
I'm one of the few that, like my my parents
didn't push it, like my mom even like Wizard. The
first season of Wizards was challenging for a few different reasons,
(11:39):
and my mom was like, we can walk. We can walk, Like,
if you don't want to do the show anymore, we
can and she it's always like, it's one of the
reasons I'm not crazy, Like it's one of the reasons,
well relatively, but one of the reasons, like I didn't
really go by the wayside was because my parents just
wanted me to be happy. And even to this day,
my mom's like, why do you still want to do this?
(12:01):
And I'm like, with the business the way it is,
sometimes I don't know, but it's it's the only thing
that really lights me up. Why I don't know, but
I'm one of those actors where I'm like, I wish
I could find something that does the same thing for me.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
But that's how you know you are where you're supposed
to be. Though it's one of those things where it's
not it's like we were just talking of friends and
I were talking about being a stand up where it's like, yeah,
it's almost like you can't not do it if you're
a stand up, that's what you have to do. And
I think if you're an actor, it's you can't not
do it. Even if you do other things, you still
don't get the feeling that you do when you're entertaining, truly,
(12:35):
and it's a different thing.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
It's just a different it's a different energy, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I mean, so how did you then? How did Disney
come into your life?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Well? I was never a Disney kid. In fact, they
wouldn't even like bring me into audition until and I
like did a bunch of drama. I was very much
a very like bougie actor kid, where I was like,
I only want to do drama. I just want to
do serious stuff like watching girls interrupted in like Monsters Ball,
way too young, Monster Monster, the one Charlie sound yeah Monster,
(13:07):
but not Monster's Ball that I was not allowed to
see that vaccine But anyway, nor do I want to now?
But anyway, Yeah, So I got this audition for a
pilot with Vanessa Hudgens, Brandon Smith moistus Arius about like
a bus that just like went around, Like we just
filmed in a bus that just like went around. We
(13:29):
all had motion signess. It was the experience, but like
it was about everything happened on the bus and it
was right after I remember Vanessa talking about high school
musical and the more she talked about it, I was like,
this isn't going to get picked up. They've got bigger
plans for her, like this is not that broke down
so many times, like it was not so and I
I played a character that was similar to Harper and
(13:51):
so once I mean, you know how it is, once
you're in with Disney and they like you, like they
tend to use the same people, kind of like the
studio system back in the day. And so I was
in that kind of you know pool that they pulled
from and the Wizard's audition came through and I actually
auditioned for Alex initially, and they then they asked me
(14:14):
to audition for Harper, but it was a reoccurring at
the time, and I was like, look, I can't afford
to I still was living in Texas. I was like,
I can't afford to move to LA on a recurring salary.
I just can't. Yeah, So they were like, well, come
down and test for Alex, which was I think in hindsight,
was a total like move, like it, which is fine.
(14:38):
So I was pissed because I was dressed for Alex,
like I'm the kind of actor I was like, I
want to dress for the part. I wanted like all
the kind of stuff. So I did all this prep
for Alex and then they handed me Harper as a
cold read and then I went in and cold read
with Selena.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So so you did, so you read with Selena?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, what was your guys's chemistry? Like like audition?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Was it like instant?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Well, weirdly, I don't know if you guys know this.
So I lived Leanna and I had never met, but
like I was really close with Demi and we lived
ten minutes apart from each other in Texas, so we
immediately had that like oh my god, you're from Texas
and Demi and like we have that mutual friend that
was like her best friend. And so it was this
kind of immediate like just dissolved any sort of like
awkward first meeting stuff because we had the Disney Texas
(15:20):
factory connection.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
That's awesome. That's very cool, especially to go in and
because I mean then you go in and you know,
you walk away and you're like, look, I did the
best I can it's gonna happen or it's not.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah. And also like Disney had been trying to find
her a pilot for years. I mean the year prior
I think they had given her she had had a
pilot that was like the Miranda spin off from Lazy
McGuire the year before, and then that year she was
in two pilots, like they were trying to find her
a show, which I get. I totally get. She was
so lovable and so I still is and so cute
(15:55):
and like, you know, so yeah, I knew that she
had the part the moment I so I was like, well, hope,
we hope we click, and we did, thankfully.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
That's good. Now were you were you a Disney fan
before you ever auditioned for Okay, no, so you weren't
watching d COM's or any of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
She was watching things like Monster and Girls.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I know, but I mean, you can you can have
the balance.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
She was not watching Lizzie McGuire, okay, or even Steven did.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I watched Lizzy McGuire. I watched That's a Raven I did.
I watched like My President's Daughter and things like that.
I did kind of miss I was. I was off
of it by the time that Cheetah Girls kind of
came around, So I'm sorry, that's okay to be honest,
but I I used to, like, once I got over Disney,
I used to turn the volume down and make them
say like really inappropriate things. So I do think it's
(16:46):
really funny that I ended up on the channel. It's
just like God's sense of humor. But you know, I
definitely had my like I didn't miss it. I mean,
I will totally nerd out here. I have the total
whole box set of Boy Meets World, like it was
for sure. I loved that show, and there was a
lot of like the like the True Confessions.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
We just watched literally just watch that.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
I missed see.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
But but it was that like generation in Disney were
like they really and and cheer Girls did too, like
they kind of hit some of like the hard hitting
stuff too. But I feel like after that it got
a little fluffyer and that's where I kind of fell
off and started just like making fun of it.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
So I'm dying to know what you would have the
characters say to each other that was so inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I can't tell you that I can't tell you that.
It was a lot of four a lot of words. Oh,
it was a lot of things that I should have
been joking about. Probably at the time I was joking
about it.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
How how old were you when you booked waivers?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Waivers?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, wizards, really wizards, it's the.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
One with the w's. Don't worry about it. I was, yeah,
I like waivers, sign this waiver. I was thirteen started,
and then fourteen I think once we got picked up,
and then it was for teen to eighteen. So it
was my high school.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Okay, but now when did you find out then that
it wasn't going to be reoccurring? I mean, because again
you were like, I can't, I can't move there for
a reason offered me the part, and so they knew
at that point they said you're you'll be.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
A regular because I said to my age, I said
to my because my mom. I mean, like I said,
I was thirteen at the time. So when they offered
me the part, my mom and had talked to me
about it too. She's like, look, this is the deal,
and I was like, okay, well that makes sense. So
she went to my agent and was like, look, you
got to tell him. They got to make it a
series regular or we can't do it. Yeah, and he's like,
are you sure, Like nobody really does that to Disney
because there's always somebody waiting in the wings to take
(18:35):
your place. And my mom was like, we can't, like,
we don't have an option. Like I was at the
point where I would have to have quit because we
were going back and forth from Texas and California, and
thankfully they liked me enough to bump it up nice.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Do you remember now, as a child actor, you obviously
wanted this role. Do you remember the feeling of I
might lose this because we can't do the reoccurring that's terrified.
I mean, it's a terrifying feeling.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, I mean I was. I'll never forget it. We
were staying at a set teacher's house who actually ended
up doing the set teaching for the first year. We
were dogs sitting because that was the only way we
could afford to stay there. It was like a god sense.
They literally like we I met her on an episode
of House that I did and she was like, Hey,
I have to go shoot this thing. Will you house
it for us? And I'll have you stay there for free,
(19:27):
and my mom was like, we can't afford housing out
in California. So it worked perfectly. And I remember being
there and just being like, what an incredible, like god
thing of just like putting that in my life right
at the moment that like, I was gonna have to
once I wrapped this episode, I was gonna have to
go home and try to figure out how to get
work back in Texas. And so I was about her
house when I found out.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Wow, so this was like intermitting with your audition process
for it. That's amazing. Oh my gosh, how cool. Do
you remember where you were? So you said you were
at her house. Do you remember, like I remember getting
the call and knowing like I booke the Cheetah girls,
like I remember exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that moment, because
what was that for you?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It just it just was disbelief. It was disbelief because,
like I said, I and I waxed poetic about it
all the time. I love what I do so much,
and it was the chance to get to do it
every day. Yeah, and at the time, like it's not
so much this way anymore with streaming and everything. At
the time, you got guaranteed four years unless something catastrophic happened,
(20:29):
you know, So it's like nine times out of ten,
your show was going to go for four years. And
so I knew that. I was like, And it was
also relief as well, is because like I I was,
like I said, I was in this place at a
young age where I was like, Okay, I love this
thing so much and I might not be able to
do it anymore. So now I can, you know, now
I'm able to. And so it was. It was just
it was disbelief and relief and all the thiefs and.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So how long after the show started did you realize
what it was becoming? I mean it seemed to Yeah,
happened pretty quickly, right, it was.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
So we got lucky. Our first season was totally dark,
so like it hadn't art. We shot the whole first
season without it airing, so it wasn't until we came
back for the second season. It's so clear in my mind.
I have such black holes in my memory, but like
some of them are so clear. We did a signing
in New York. We went up for like upfronts and
like a couple of like talk shows or whatever, and
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we did this signing in New York and there were
like people lined up in the rain, and I remember
being like, that's so weird, like who are they here
to see? Like I just remember being like so confused
as to why they were there. And that was when
everything kind of changed. But I'm so thankful that that
first season we could just spend getting to know each
other and getting to really build this like family thing
(21:47):
with the crew. I mean that casting crew is just
we lucked out. We got a great group of people.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, I'm still trying to think about the feeling of
seeing all of the people in the rain waiting for
you and truly knowing like what are they What are
they here for?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah? For us? No, I mean because in my mind
I had never I had worked a lot, but it
was never on stuff that I ever thought people were
going to see. Like I just I had this kind
and I still do. I still have this like indie
actor mindset, and that's the bougie part, but like where
I'm just like, oh, I just make it because I
love it and no one will ever see it and
that's fine. And so it still blows my mind to
(22:27):
be a part of something that was impactful for people like,
that's such a gift that I never anticipated.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Wow, you guys must have the craziest stories on set.
Is there anything that always when you reflect on your
time on set, is there any like funny story that
just always immediately jumps out at you as far? I mean,
I'm sure there's a ton.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Of them, but yeah, there's I mean that's such that's
such a broad question. Yeah, I mean we have a ton.
Let me think. I remember we had this one episode
with with David Copperfield, and I remember we all had
to sign like NDA's because like because we got to
see like how his magic tricks. We okay, like how
(23:07):
so that was the whole thing, is like we couldn't play.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
A second those are tricks.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
On ironic thing too, is like I've never been a
magic person, Like I don't like magic shows because it
feels like trickery and I don't like feel it being
like f lied to and that's what that feels like
to me. But yeah, it was just like a weird
I don't know. It was just strange because like we
started having people like you know, Rob Bryaner or Sylvester
Stallone or Cynde Crawford, and like we had freaking Kaya
(23:35):
Gerber on set when she was like a little nugget,
you know what I mean. So it's like we had
these people, I don't know. It was strange because it
felt like it was ours. It felt like it was
our little family, and then these like people would come
in that you were just like, why what are you?
It just I don't know. It still breaks my life.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
And a lot of them probably had like kids that
were fans of the channel and fans of the show
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, I don't think Rob Ryaner was watching Waiver.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Could have been, but he could have been watch you
never know.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Take us to your dressing room? Did you get to
just to decorate it? Oh yeah, you yeah, to take
us there? What was in your dressing room? Tell me everything?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Okay, I mean it was the typical like four by
four with for some reason, it was always a navy couch.
We had all navy couches. Mine was right next and
we switched studios because Sunny with the Chance took over
our old studio. But both times, like Selena and I
were either across from each other or we were right
next to each other, and we were always just in
(24:34):
each other's dressing room, and I remember, I don't remember
specifically like what, I just remember I had this white
shag rug. That's what I remember. I had a white
shag rug. Yeah, that's and then I think I had
like I was big into like magazine collages, so like
I had like some magazine collides that I had put up. Okay, okay,
(24:54):
typical sixteen year old stuff. Yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Was there a crush on your magazine?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
For was a crush every week? I mean I literally,
I mean maybe it was the downside of I was
gonna say, I don't know if I can say that
on here, but I was like it was the downside
of like having the costumes that I had on the show.
It was great for comedy, but a total block.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Just like that was what.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I don't know if I can say or not I have,
you know, but like Sweena would have a new crush
every week, because like that was the whole thing, right,
and you know, my character was not the most flattering,
which is fine, it was all for the comedy, but
but I'll never forget there was a crush that I had.
And I invited him to set and I was wearing
like a giant cactus for some reason with like a nubbin. Yeah,
(25:39):
and I remember seeing him like walk in and like
talk to a couple of people, and then he left,
and I just was like, okay, Like I mean I
still like so I totally got blocked by the cactus,
but like there was a lot of costumes that it
wasn't until later that I was that I you know
what I mean, Like it wasn't the most sip to
(26:00):
my teenage dating life for sure, but yeah, no, I
had a crush on every new Alex.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It drives me crazy watching these d coms because when
I was on the channel, I felt like I was
like head to toe covered. I mean I had four
different shirts, one five to six bangles on each thing,
gloves at least on one hand. Yeah, I heard I
was if I was wearing a skirt or address of
any sort. I for sure had leggings on like I
(26:26):
I was. And then and then now I see these
the more recent d cooms, and I'm just like, where
is what was the standards in practice?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Excuse me? Standards in practice? We need to get over here.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Her neckline is way too low.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
No, so Selena has like a mole like on her
chest and that was their marker, like they couldn't go
below the mole, like if her mole was showing, it
was too low cut. Oh and we had a whole
thing with like David, like David's pants could never be
too tight, even though we wanted them to be too tight.
But yeah, so we always had.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Like things like yeah, because you're young and you're like
finding like I said, you guys came to the Disney
Channel games and like up the ante of these like
ugly uniforms that we're wearing making them look cool. You know,
that's where you were at that age of like figuring
it out a way, like Okay, you're gonna give me this.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
You always want to be a bigger you know, so
you're always trying to like you know, which I think
back now and is like so weird that like you're
trying to be sexy, like you don't know what that is.
It's like, get out of here.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
I still don't know what that is. I'm almost fifty same.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Same, I'm still trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Okay, So you're shooting the movie and then you hear
that they're going to make it make a decom. They're
gonna they're going to do a movie. How did you
find out about that? And why weren't you in it?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
More cool with? So this was part of my first
season was challenging. Was and as an adult, like because
I've gotten better obviously at this point, I hope so
of going okay, it's a business and like not certain
things personally, but as a teenager, that's really hard to do.
So I can see their initial approach with Wizards was
(28:08):
to focus on the family, and I was supposed to
be a reoccurring part. So in the first season I
kind of got treated like reoccurring because that was always
their plan, was to build the families. But at the time,
I was a teenager and I just felt like I
was left out. So like they would have press, they
would have photo shoots with just the family, which was
like the five series regulars, and then me not involved,
and so there was a lot like it just it
(28:29):
was hard. It was hard at fourteen to be left out.
And so they came up with this idea between first
and second season, I believe, for this DCM movie. But
weirdly they didn't have our writers write it, and so like, yeah,
it was really strange. They didn't have our writers write it,
and it was I remember our Peter Marietta like got it.
(28:49):
And he was like, so you got all the characters
doing opposite, so like this character is acting like this character,
and this character like it was someone who clearly had
seen like one episode of the show. Yeah, and so
he kind of like went in and like helped you
tool it a little bit. And yeah, I mean, like
I said, I I was in like the New York
section of the movie. So they were all in Puerto
Rico for a month, and I went down there for
(29:10):
three days. So it was kind of adjunct to that
sort of like sixth player sort of blacksheet thing from
the first season, which which got resolved and got better
like in the second through the fourth season, but it
was kind of like an adjunct to that because it
was between the first and second.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, well that wasn't your only role in the d
com because we also just did Dad Napped.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yes, okay, you're going to bring up my other favorite
d com, which is Harriet the Spy Blog Wars.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
No, we haven't done that one yet, so.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Excuse me. The list nobody wanted, like we're going.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
To be watching it now and bringing that right, it's
called Harriet the Spy.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
One blog was like really big, okay, okay, yeah, going
on the list, it was it's not it's not my proudest.
It's not my proudest.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Dad napped your proudest because that movie was that crazy
it was.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
It's true. I was just on the but I was
just a boy, so run d I know what it was.
I went on to Emily a few years after the fact,
and I think she totally forgot I was in it.
Like it was so like because because I I went
down to Utah was where they filmed everything. I'm sure
Jason talked about that, but I filmed like a scene
that they ended up like cutting from the movie because
(30:34):
it was just like where are you going? Like it
was a very knocking fuss kind of part, and then
they cut me out and I was just like the
voice on the phone and dad not and then I
said something. I was like, oh, yeah, you remember in Utah.
She's like, what you weren't there? And I was like
I was impressions. One of the things I love about her,
(30:54):
She's straight into the point. It's crazy, totally bonker.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
It was like an acid trip.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
That entire film did Paul Who and the or the
director of it. Did he ever come and do any
episodes on your show? Did you know him prior to that?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
No, that was a one off. I literally went to
Tom met him, had a great like a couple of
days and then.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
He's done a million of these dcoms and he's so good.
But I do know that he was. He also did
a little bit on even Stevens, So I wasn't sure
how much he's flip flopped into the TVs or the
you know, the shows a dcms.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
We had more because I know, like Fred Savage did
a ton of them, so like we had more of
him he came on and did We had like Mark
Sindrawski came a lot, We had Bob cohaer Uh, Victor
Gonzalez like those were kind of the directors. We had
a lot, and then like a couple one offs here
right in there. But no, we didn't have any overlap
with him. But there's some people. It's like Hallmark in Lifetime,
Like dcoms are like such a specific genre. So like
(31:52):
when you get down that style, whether it's you're as
a writer or as a director, like you can just
crank them out.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
You know right, they just keep pumping them out.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
For those two dcoms that you did, did you have
to audition or did they just bring those they just
offer them to you.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
No, I mean with like the with the Wizard's Dcon.
I mean I already had a full season of auditioning
for that one, and then No, they just offered me
Dad Napped and they offered me Harriet the Spy.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I can't wait. I now cannot wait to see it's dude.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
There was a part where like it's so bad and
it's also too like it was that weird I had
such a round face when I was a kid, and
it was that weird like hair straightening thing that was
like super popular. So it's like this like basketball head
and it's just like orange stick straight hair. And then
I'm in glasses and like there's a part where like
I'm in like a again total acid trip. I was
(32:47):
in like a British military thing, like interrupting a dance sequence.
I don't Oh my god, it's much weird. It's my god,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I can't wait. So you are obviously also no stranger
to the world of podcasting, where you went and kind
of went back and looked at everything. What was that
like to see it again? Now that your frontal lobe
was delivered in the mail.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
It arrived be a FedEx. It was like an out
of body experience, I think with this much time, because
I mean we ended in twenty twelve, so I mean
it's been thirteen years and so and I've lived a
lot of life since then. That I it was like
watching somebody else. But I also to like have such
something Like I said, my memory can be kind of
(33:36):
shoddy where it's like I have black holes of memory
and then I have really specific memories and so but
I just remember looking back and just wanting to like
hug my like inner like child self, you know what
I mean, because like I just remember her being so
insecure about like because also too, like when Wizards started,
like social media had just become like a thing, and
so I've got a lot of stuff I was Also
(33:58):
it was that weird like two thousand in ten time
where like the super super skinny thing was in and
so like I got a lot of stuff about like
being fat online and like and I had like really
bad acne and like, and it's I just remember specifically
being like okay, like because it's hard not to compare,
and me and Selena were together so much the time,
(34:19):
and I remember thinking then, which I know, like again
it's what you see versus what's actually going on, but
I remember thinking, like, god, she just got taller and
her boobs got bigger, and I like, got I have
backne and like I just like I cut my own
bangs and like it was weird, Like yeah, so I
just remember feeling really awkward and I just want to
(34:39):
watching it back. I just wanted to go back and
hug her and be like you're good, dude, Like all
that stuff that you're just creating is like, so you're
not fat, Who cares if you have acne? You're thirteen,
Like it's fine, Like it so doesn't matter, you know.
That was the biggest thing that I remember, is looking
back and.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Just wanting to hug her. Well, growing up is hard enough,
but growing up in front of.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Is just yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
And social media, I'm so glad. Like I mean, I
feel like towards the end, Facebook and my Space were
my Space was a thing. Facebook was like just for
your college friends, Like yeah, that's as much as I
really got in the message boards. I remember same thing
on Dancing with the Stars. The message boards, I remember
(35:23):
being like I was like a size three and they
the way they talked about me was like I was
a size ten. Like but if you're not with a
with a short person body, you know that they were
acting like I was so much bigger than I was.
And it's just like those message boards were brutal. I
went on once or twice and then never again.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Never don't even don't do that stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
No, no, But I can't imagine being thirteen though I
was like in my twenties, like it was.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Bad, like it was something. It's something where now I
just kind of laugh about it. But like when I
was younger, because Twitter was like the big thing, and
like towards the end, Instagram came out and you know
it just and you would have to Twitter's the worst,
Like it's just the worst. It's literally like like ghosts
in the in the shadows, like just like saying stuff
about you and and and like I said, now I
(36:09):
find it hilarious, but like at the time, you don't again,
no fun to lob, what am I supposed to do
with that?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
And there's only so many times like you can lean
on your mom to be like, oh, it's okay, baby,
you know what I mean, Like it's just hitting you.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Constantly, right, and they're and they're dressing you like this.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, I know this out. You're such a good researcher.
This is okay.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I was not saying.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I was like, you multics like crazy talk block cactus.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Oh man, you can see it in your face too,
You're just like this is bull.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I was game for the costume, and I was like, gods,
water guards because like I said, I literally had like
a third nimple, like little tiny mini tactics, like very
like I was like, who put this air?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Like come on, that's so they knew that. So they
knew that they couldn't get your dress below that that
practice if you went too far below.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
You You are so stinking cute. Look at that face.
Oh my dness, you are adorable.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Face hasn't changed just when you were just too tired, Toddler.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
That's not true. When you were doing the podcast, is
there anything you learned that you were like wait what?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Oh? Yeah, really, which I'm sure you guys have too
through this podcast, because you have conversations with people and
there's something that's like great but also kind of lethal
about the podcast medium is because people feel like we're
just in the living room talking, right, and it's great
for ratings but bad for some people, you know. But
but there was something I remember one of the bigger
things that we learned. We had a lot of like
(37:45):
really healing conversations of like stuff that there's no chance
to talk about or like you would talk about with
a teenager that you came with an adult. But like
there was some of the crazier stuff is like some
of the plot lines that didn't happen, so like I know,
like there was something where it was just a little
bit ahead of its time, where like they wanted to
kind of explore bisexuality with Alex and like they wanted
to do the ending differently. Yeah, So there was a
(38:09):
lot of things that we learned about, like storylines that
just never happened that we're really that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
And then and then you went and became a nurse.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yes, you a makist from I'm a Masochist from Every
Angle actor nurse. I just love the pande.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
How how did you get there? What happened there?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I you know, I so okay, I'll try to like
spark note it I twenty. I was, so the show
ended when I was eighteen. At twenty, I started to
have some health issues and got diagnosed with type one
diabetes over a four year span, because it's typically something
that's diagnosed when you're younger. So I was like misdiagnosed,
like not treated correctly as far as like medications and
(38:51):
stuff over that like four years. So I experienced a
lot of doctors, a lot of nurses in that timeframe.
And I was going to college for psychology at the time,
and so I just decided, I was like, Okay, I
know I still want to act, let me take a
break focus on my getting my health in order, and
then I want to switch my major. I want to
switch to nursing because I've always been interested in health
(39:12):
science sciences and it was a way that I could
help people in that because in that four year period,
I really experienced feeling uncertain about what was going on
with my own body and not seen as well for
like what I was experiencing, and I wanted to do
something on my off time because with acting at ebbs
and flows of that would help other people, you know,
(39:36):
because I understood firsthand that experience. So I went to school.
I took a break out my health in order. I
went to school and then you know, life is funny.
December twenty nineteen, I graduated and I was like, okay,
going to get back to acting, got to get really
get back in there. And then I started. I started
the week after the Safer at Home order was announced
(39:58):
in LA for COVID, And so it was a baptism.
It was a baptism by fire, baptism by fire. And
also to like the approach with acting, like I was
an open wound. I was all about like emotions and
let us feel everything as an actor and as a nurse,
you can't do that. It's not sustainable. So to go
right into the pandemic is this like open wound, like
just super empathetic, wanting to like help everybody and being
(40:22):
around like not to bring it down, but like being
around that much death and stuff like it was really hard.
And so like there's still there's blocks of my memory
that are missing from that, and I'm sure it's like a.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
It's from yeah, yeah, yeah, So you were actually an
emergency room nurse during COVID, weren't you?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah? I mean I still am. I still and everybody
thinks I quit acting. I didn't.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I just do both.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
But yeah, I was an emergency room nurse a right, and.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
You're still an emergency room nurse in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yep, right across from ABC. Ironically, there's a couple of
like the twenty first twenty first floor people that I've singing,
like the volunteer and like, you know, donate to the hospital.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
And do you ever have people come in and recognize you? Like,
wait min all the time? Really all the time?
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yea, God be wild.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
I mean I used to be like in the height
of the pandemic, in full Ppe, so like nothing is
showing of my face, but I've been told it's my voice.
I've been told I have a very distinct voice. Yeah.
So like I'd be in full Ppe and I'd be
like are you And I'm like how oh wow. But yeah,
it happens all the time. It's a little you know,
it's a it's a good thing overall because someone when
(41:39):
they come in to see me, they're having like the
worst day of gossibel, right, Like you don't feel good
when you go into the ear. And it's something where
it's like a little thing where I can make them
smile or it like makes them happy. I have had
some strange cases where I remember I had this girl
that was like, really adamant we make a TikTok together,
and I was like, I'm at work, like I can't
do that, and she was like, you don't appreciate the
people that got you.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Where are you kidding? I don't appreciate people. I'm a
r nurse.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I'm sorry that you're like, I'll medicate you and make
you feel better. But I guess the TikTok is too far.
I don't know it was just but like I said, overall,
it's really nice because it makes people. It makes people happy,
and I'm having a bad day.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
So stupid question. I'm sure you're not going to be
able to answer. Which one do you prefer?
Speaker 2 (42:25):
I prefer them for different things. My first level will
always be acting. It's like I said, it's the thing
that lights me up. It's the thing that makes me
feel the most like myself. But there's definitely I'm trying
to get the best word for it. There is a
vapidness or like a surface level part to the industry
that I really just have never related to. One of
my favorite things about being an actor is the honesty
(42:46):
of it, right, and so that kind of honesty, I've
never superficial, thank you. I'm like circling around a keywords.
But yeah, so like the superficiality aspect I really struggle with.
And so that aspect of nursing I really appreciate. And
I like being able to be there for people and
(43:06):
I like being able to to offer something because to
be honest, like sometimes acting feels really selfish and it
feels like something for me yea, And nursing is something
that I get to do for other people. So it's
a nice balance of the two. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Wow, wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Well thank you.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Could you imagine bad day?
Speaker 2 (43:24):
And then I couldn't even.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Like your favorite on TV.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
It's holding a thermometer and it's like, oh no, oh no.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I will tell you. I had a very weird moment
the other day. I was in a room with like
a pets patient and I looked up at the TV
and I was like, I guess that looks so familiar,
and it was the Wizard sequel on TV. But I
was like, this is this is too weird, this is
too like, how does this is too meta for me?
Speaker 1 (43:52):
How did you feel about that? By the way, how
did you feel about this the sequel the reboot.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
It's a sequel. It's a sequel because it doesn't have
any of our regional writers and most of our cast.
It's it's it's kind of like it's David Henry's thing. Yeah,
I feel you know, it's cool, like it's David Henry's thing.
Go to your go to your thing, asked Yeah, I mean,
I think I'm really protective of Harper. Like I've had
(44:19):
way too many people come up to me and it
was this for me as well, where they were like
you made it feel okay to be the weird kid.
You made it feel okay to be different. And so
I'm very protective of her. So I would love to
as long as like it honors her, I think, because
I don't know those writers. They're like the Ravens Home writers,
I think, and I know it's very easy and this
(44:41):
kind of happened with The Wizard's movie, where like they'll
make her the butt of the joke, and like, I'm
not cool with that because, like I said, because then
it makes people feel like, Okay, it's not okay to
be different. It's not okay, and so as long as
she's not the butt of the joke and it honors
that character, i'd love to.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Yeah, that's good, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah, of course, of course, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
You're gonna need one promise. If you can't one pinky promise,
I know what is good. Will you come back for Harriet?
Speaker 3 (45:16):
I mean blog wars, you gotta come.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
You guys are so lovely, and you guys are so
you guys will watch me cringe the whole time. Are
you gonna make me rewatch it?
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Though? No, that's totally up to you. It's totally up
to you.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Honestly, it helps for like, I know the interview process.
But if you can't, no, no, no, I'll rewatch it.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
It may not be as cringe as you think you honestly,
it is.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
It is.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
It might not, it might not. You might go more
to the what it was like film like that. When
I watched the first Cheeta Girls movie, I'm like, oh gosh,
I just can't there's so many things about myself, But
the entire time we watched Cheetah Girls, all I could
think of was I remember that day on set that
was so like, because I think it's different than the
TV show. It's like it's like, you know, six weeks
(46:02):
or whatever. You know, it's like real jamp and it's
just memory after memory after a memory. It might be
really actually fun for you.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah, and it's more of that like summer camp experience
for sure. And I have a few friends that have
been trying to get me to watch it with them,
so maybe the whole time.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Okay, so fun.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Well, thank you for joining us, and thank you so
much for going and helping people like you cod and
and everything else.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Just especially during that time of the world. We are
so brave and we without people like you, I mean,
who knows what we would have been where we would
be at. So you guys are incredible.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Thank you, Thank you guys, and we'll talk. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
See exactly, I have to see that movie. I know
it's got to be on the list. It's got to
happen soon.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
She was an e R nurse during COVID. Dude, craziness.
I mean, oh my gosh, wow crazy. I couldn't imagine.
I couldn't imagine.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
And again not just like what was happening in there,
but like knowing how much it was like everything was
just on such a high alert and the like she
said again, not to be super negative, but the amount
of death around you in time so crazy, so crazy.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
That's still not the thing I'm going to take most
from this interview. The thing I'm going to take most
of this interview will be Cactus Block. That's still going
to be the thing I'm going to take with me
more than anything.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
I love you Hope for forgetting that picture of sending
it straight to exactly where to go.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
I don't know if it was just.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
Because the visual was better than what my brain was
taking was way better.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Well, thank you everybody so much for joining us on
this episode, and thank you Jennifer for joining us. That
was really really cool, and we will see you next time.
I think the film that we're watching next time is
Ice Princess, I think is what we talk about. So yeah,
we're gonna go give a shout out to Michelle Trachtenberg,
who unfortunate just passed away. But we're gonna go watch
Ice Princess and talk about what it was like to
(48:06):
make another skate movie. Not a skate movie, man, Disney
does love their skate movies. Thank you so much for
joining us and we will see you next time. Bye everybody, Hi,
Hosts And Creators
Will Friedle
Sabrina Bryan
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