Starring Maggie Lawson as Alex Burroughs/Janine Adams in "Model Behavior"

Maggie Lawson joins Will and Sabrina to talk about Model Behavior, working with Justin Timberlake and more! 

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Thank you so much for joining us on this Park
Copper episode of Magical Rewind.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
We say all the time.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
We're so excited to talk to our guests. Today's different.
We don't want to talk to this person. She's being
foisted upon us.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
I joke, mag I joke because Maggie was on Boy
Meets World and did Pod Meats World and could not
have been nicers. So excited to talk to her about
Model Behavior, mostly where she played basically everybody in the film.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Uh so yeah, we're very excited. So with no more ado,
please help us. Welcome Maggie Lawson.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Hi, how are you all good?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Good to see you again. Thank you so much for
joining us.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
So good to see you.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Thank you for having me, and thank you for being
flexible and this day and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
But I'm so excited.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I'm glad to know we are.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
We're we could not be We're ecstatic that you're here
because we want to talk about a movie that we basically,
I don't know if you know what we had to
go through to watch Model Behavior.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yes, it's like they've they've taken it out of the
world for some reason.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
So essentially we we you know, mirrored a Korean VPN
and then scoured the dark web.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
Okay, kind of but not one hundred percent correct.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
I don't know how else you watch it, So it's
a it's a weird thing that has happened that I
think pretty much every other Disney movie is available on
Disney Plus.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
To it, Yeah, the only one.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
The ones we have the hardest time are when we've
kind of come to our own conclusion that it has
to do with some time of music rights.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Maybe the licensing. So the Wonderful World of Disneys are
tough to get.

Speaker 6 (01:57):
Yeah, anything that's been on the Disney Channel has it's
been pretty much right. There's only been a view on
the Disney Channel that we haven't been able to get.
But Wonderful World of Disney really sends us through like
the Ringer to find so many of the good ones.
This isn't even like a long lost one.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
This is like.

Speaker 6 (02:14):
People's like favorite movies, people thinking about nostalgia and wanting
to they love this movie. So that's what makes it
so insane for us to think that they can't just
like go on Disney Plus and grab it.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Like it's so crazy, so bizarre.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
For a while, I thought maybe somebody had it, like
in their contract or something that because otherwise it made
no sense to me that you can't find this one.
I mean literally, I'll do like these conventions which I'm
I'm you know, you all might know, and.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
And they'll bring me vhs is.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
It never was released on DVD, but it's it's it's
really difficult to find. But the Disney Plus one has
surprised me. But I think you might be Maybe it's
the music, because there's an ensync song in there.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
That's that's what we think. It's also the possibility that
you're fine with it. But the other girl in the
movie who looked just like you.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
She might have might Yeah it was probably her contract.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah that actually a real jerk.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
So I speaking of that, was that one of the
things that really attracted you to the role is the
fact that you're playing basically.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Everybody in the movie. I mean, you're playing two roles.
It's just a one woman show. Was it really cool
to do that?

Speaker 4 (03:31):
I love that, You're like, what attracted you to this project?
I'm like, I was nineteen and I was like I
got sent an audition and I was like, this is cool,
and oh my gosh, it would be two characters.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Oh my gosh, I'm.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Like, like, this is a real acting job like that.
I hadn't, you know, But I was like, oh, I
got to think about this, like I think about for
the audition. I remember it all very well. I was
so so it's I was shocked. I got it, Like
did you it shocked. I mean it's one of those
things you and you're like, yeah, okay, uh anyway, Yeah,

(04:05):
I was excited also, I mean I love the story.
I think it's really sweet. And Kathle Gifford was already cast,
but justin Tom really the guy wasn't cast yet, and
I remember I got it in a shock and they
were like, oh, we're getting you know, a really big
person to play the you know this is love Love

(04:25):
ye Yeah, yeah, and a male super right, the male supermodel.
And uh and I at the time, I mean instinct
was was like up and coming like they weren't.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
It was right.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
It was literally like we were shooting this movie and
they were already big. Don't get me wrong, like right
after this movie it just they went but like pop
came out and it just bonkers.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
But yeah, it was Uh.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
I love that you're like, you know, I had like
fielding offers or something like that.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Which films did you turn down to do this movie?
Because I guess what I.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Would like, you know, I could do this Spielberg project,
but I think we go do this wonderful well, but
it was, it was, it was. It was huge at
the time, and it was such a I mean it
was it was really magical. I mean think if I
was like nineteen ninety ninety nine. Wow. Yeah, so it
was like right before the turn of kind of everything.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
Honest, Yeah, that's lit. You're right.

Speaker 6 (05:30):
I mean that that year was like Brittany Christina like
they and then a million pop groups were coming out.
For sure, a lot of them had done a lot
of stuff like in like was it Sweden or they
had been.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Doing They're all like huge small towns in Germany.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
And then yeah, they came this way right around that time.
But okay, I have to ask, we got to go
back to the audition process. So had you had you
done anything as far as either with the Channel or
with Disney in general up to this not.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
I think ID auditioned for a few like I had
done Not No, I hadn't really done Disney I had
done a TV movie, like a horror movie. NBC did
a run of like I think they were trying to
do like a Wonderful World of Disney thing, but they
horror thing. It was like mysteries and suspenseful TV movies.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
And I had done one of those, Sarah Chalk that one.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Solet Moonfry was in that one. Oh yeah, that was
about a year before. And at the time, I think
I'd really only done like a few guest stars like
you know Er and Felicity.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
It was like right at that.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Time when all those shows were kind of you know,
but it was like I was working. I was sort
of like getting in there a little bit. You know.
I'd go on auditions with like people I recognize and stuff.
But I this But but up to that point, I
don't think I had done and Wonderful one. If Disney
was no joke, like that was a big deal at
the time that and uh, you know what was the

(07:07):
other one like t G I f uh, you know
the Miller Boyett shows, like a lot of that was
it was a big deal if you could get in
with that. So at the time it really was like
I was it felt like I was getting you know,
it felt like a little bit of a moment.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
It felt.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
We've talked to some actors that have done something similar
and one of them, Andy Lawrence, actually told us like
he read one scene with both of them in it
and did you to me, I'm like, yeah, first of all,
will hit it right on the head.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
When we were reviewing.

Speaker 6 (07:45):
There are such great choices that you made to make
each of these characters.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
Even if you just saw you on on camera.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
You will know.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
That's how you know, Yeah, that's how you know.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
If they're just standing there silently, you still knew who
was who, which pretty.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Impressive, amazing.

Speaker 6 (08:02):
So I was wondering if you did that in the
audition because that right there, it's like boom, you got It.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Means a lot.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
It was in the in the time of if she
wears glasses.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
She's nerd.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
So the most beautiful women in the world with glasses
on in a ponytail, it's like no one's going to
talk to her.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
It's like ratually cook like looking anyway. So but we
we I do remember I wore fake glasses. I didn't
have glasses at the time because that was the I mean,
if I feel but that is what everybody was, of course,
and the scene where we meet each other where the

(08:48):
supermodel is like it's uncanny. That's the scene I read
both both, like I read with the cast and reder
one character and then the cast and the other character,
and that was No, It's really funny because I remember
at the time thinking, you know, what would I what
would what would really be the difference in these two

(09:09):
because I knew they were going to probably do hair
and wardrobe and all that stuff, but it was it
was posture. I think was probably like the the thing
I was thinking at the time.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I mean, I'm making this sound, you.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Know, it's just like I do remember thinking about It's
like I like the supermodel would just walk around with
her shoulders back and her hell head held high and
like probably walk like she's on a catwalk, and you
know the other one is gonna you know, probably round
her shoulders and not want to be seen and those
honestly beyond that, maybe a little voice difference, but like

(09:44):
I at the time, that was that was I think
the main thing when I went into the audition, that
was like, let me because you can't go change, you know,
into like clothes or whatever. So I think I just like,
you know, threw on some glasses. I remember it though,
I like, I remember the as I'm thinking about it
right now.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
It was wild.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
It's wild and I and I only think I read
for it like once or twice. I really only remember
the first reading. Oh my gosh, she's like head of
casting for Amazon now she's are and she was so
supportive and I remember her multiple times. And then it
was after that that I ended up getting you were

(10:24):
asking about, like Disney connections. I did this, and then
I did Nancy Drew after Okay, this sort of my
like entry into a little disney Land for a little bit.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah. Wow, yeah, we we.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
We first of all, we thought so because you know,
we reviewed this movie and we're you know, we're not kids,
so we're reviewing them as adults. And there are some
parts of this movie that are just absolutely bonkers. When
you get to the mirror scene and it's like we're
at the restaurant and it's like mirror being repaired. There's
a big sign there's a mirror repair, of course, and

(11:03):
the other thing we love you just run into each other, yeah,
and then you just trade lives.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
That's what we do.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
There is absolutely, and it's a really emotional montage if
I remember, whereas like you're the glasses and oh wow,
this feels new and you're like, oh this is and okay,
we're just going to go back into Okay, I mean.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
This is you know.

Speaker 6 (11:27):
I mean you guys didn't even have chance to get
a brief like, hey, by the way, my mom's name
is and I have.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
There's a car in.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
My our house that I'm not really one hundred percent
sure why there's a car, but there is.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
So don't be shocked by that, Like there was no brief,
nor was there Clearly we're twins.

Speaker 6 (11:49):
One of our parents had some kind of situation with
someone at somebody, and.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
How do we not meet the other parents?

Speaker 4 (12:01):
It's like somebody and then you know, maybe some of
it would make sense, but yeah, yeah, we're.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
We're wondering if it was going to turn into one
of those movies where like one of you pulls out
half an amulet and the it's like, oh my god,
we were.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
We were separated at birth. This is amazing.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Both movies were happening around that time.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Too, exactly exactly, yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
With a p s A after or like no after.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
So what what was it like to shoot?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
I mean, did you have to especially the scenes that
you're shooting to get like you're shooting, you're with yourself.
Are you doing one whole side and then running out
and changing then doing the whole other side. Did you
have a stand in that was reading lines with you
that was like, how did this work?

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Yeah? There was a stand in. It's like for the
mirror scene that was Yeah, like that for sure.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
I remember her. She was wonderful.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
It's weird these memories that are like I remember that
day really well because I've leave the mirror scene day
and the day we meet are were in the same
location and the day that we had Yeah, there were
like I mean a lot of dinner scenes or at

(13:14):
least restaurant scenes.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I feel, yes, it ate a lot in this movie.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah, and I remember that they were. Yeah, they were
all done about the same time. And I remember running
around like a crazy person that day, just you know, one.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
To the other, to the to the other to the other.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
And yes, I would just read with a I don't
even know if the stand in read the lines, but
I was reading with somebody on the other side.

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Speaker 2 (14:43):
I mean, you.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
Couldn't have had even probably one day off in this
whole suit, because you are in every scene pretty I mean,
it's like and you.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Can't even see it.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
I think I did get pretty stressed out at one point,
like I had this like crazy like breakout that happened
during this Like we were freaking out about you know,
remember this stuff like back when you're a kid and
you're like, I was so stressed and I remember too.
There was like a scene we were shooting and I'm
in Toronto right now. We were shooting in Toronto. We
shot that in Toronto and the car, uh the scene

(15:17):
with the car you know, my my play my the
Supermodel's place or whatever. Of course that's a real place,
real car reel. At the time, that was not a set.
Oh my, I asked my mom the other day. I
was like, I wonder where that house was, Like I
know the neighborhood, but I'm like, I wonder if they
still have the car.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
There.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
But it was freezing on top of it. It was
like right in the middle of winter. And the scene
where I meet uh justin for the first time, the like,
uh Alex, Alex is the yeah, uh Alex, Jeanine right, yeah,
so Alex.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Alex Burrows and Jeanine Adams.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Oh you can't tell.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
I I'm sure they erased this from the we I mean,
the tears. It was so cold, the tears that were
running down our face in that scene where we met
each other, I'll never forget, like I'm remembering all this
stuff now, but yeah, we had. It was just a
it was an insane experience. It's it was it like,
it's one of my favorite memories of my life. But

(16:22):
it's also it was also bonkers exactly. It was like, okay,
now we got to run into that, and they would
be doing it on set half the time. The mirror scene,
I feel like she nailed it the stand in, like
she was so great.

Speaker 6 (16:36):
See yeah in sync, you guys are in sync, but
really like the I mean, the timing of everything was
just like it was very done, very good. It just
was funny because I've you know, never gone into a
restaurant where the you know, the mirror was under repair.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
So it was an interesting say.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I without without the sign, big big, big, good size
mirror sign, which.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Is I feel like a lot of people would be like, oh, well,
I'm not gonna eat.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Here, right if you can't prepare your own mirror.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Yeah, Like, from now on, I think I'm gonna tell
restaurants if I go in and the mirror is not
clean or something like you should put them out.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Giants sign up exactly.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
So I think every in sync fan would need to know.
It's an easy answer to say, like, well, how Justin
was on set? You guys really didn't get to be
on set that much together. He wasn't in the movie
a whole lot. But the more important question is did
you get any in sync perks? Like did you get
to go to content? Okay, tell me that that is

(17:44):
that is something that I know I would my producers was, I'm.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Sorry, but wouldn't kissing Justin Timberlake be an n sync perk?
Does not count?

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Not on camera. I mean, unless you guys got to
like practice, that.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Would be love.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
But yeah, like I would tell.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
He was. And this is easy to talk about. It's
not me just like saying like, of course I'm going
to say it was great. When I tell you it's
funny you just said like he wasn't on set that much.
He is my memory from that, Like he was so sweet.
His mom was there the whole time. My mom was
there the whole time. There from Tennessee, we're from Kentucky.
They hit it off, we hit it off, and you know,

(18:30):
he was really lovely and open and nervous and humble
and like you know, asking questions to everybody. He was
very gracious, I mean honestly the loveliest, like I And
that is what I remember, And it was, you know
a lot of times it's like oh, because like somebody's
like trying to make a move or something like that

(18:51):
that they're like, you know, no, just genuinely kind. He
was already like dating Brittany at the time that they
had to keep that really quiet. He talked about that
like just an open, really really incredible person actually.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
And very different experience than if you worked with fatone.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Oh. I did get to meet I think a few
of them and at the time, everybody, you know, it
was such a wild time and like young like TRL
and like I think the things that were happening around that,

(19:30):
like young Hollywood time. It's it's you know, they all
have like social media and everything now, but that was
kind of ours, you know, like like and I remember,
like Brittany came to one of our screenings and her
mom came to one of the screenings, and they were
like super sweet, and Justin would invite me. It's crazy.

(19:51):
Actually after we did the movie, they would go out
everywhere like they could get into places even though they
weren't twenty one.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Sorry if i'm you know, they were insank.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yeah yeah, but uh at the time, Saddle Ranch was
very popular among oh you know yeah and that sort
of I'm not really in my twenties yet, but like
you could get in there at eighteen or whatever. So
I weirdly I became very cool very fast. I was

(20:22):
such a not cool kid.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
I mean, you were cool adjacent. I was cool.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
I wasn't even trul adjacent before I was. But but
then I suddenly knew all of the club promoters in LA.
I was like, yeah, so so just because he was
so nice and inclusive and would invite me out places,
and like it was so he was he was so lovely,
And then I was like I then I was like,

(20:49):
I'm thinking, I think I'm I think I'm cool now.
I think we like wrote something about us at one
point that was like justin spotted with his co star
and I remember being like this is terror, No, no, no,
and it was like no, this is good because like
we don't want we don't want the focus on Brittany.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
They really kept that under.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Wraps, like oh yeah, it was like wow, it was
a wild time.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
So you were justin Timberlake's beard.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Great, No, it was not on purpose, it was it
was just he was just really nice and yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Truly truly, nothing like at all.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
And I really appreciated that because I think, I you know,
we were all you know, it was like young and
there's just a lot happening in Hollywood at that time,
and everybody seemed to have like another you know, agenda
if it got to a certain place, you know whatever,
and never ever ever liked that, never ever, ever wonderful.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
That's really cool.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah, And so I felt really safe and it was
also just like a great group of people that.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, I mean, I guess he's kind of famous, But
I want to talk about the real fame in this film,
the powerhouse that is Kathy Lee Gifford.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
What was wow? Were with the gift Like like.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
I'm so curious what you think working with her would be?

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Like, I think working with her, here's the only analogy
I could give you, would be like working with Kathy
Lee Gifford.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
So, Kathy Lee Gifford, from like the day we arrived,
I was really nervous, obviously, and this was like the
first lead i'd done in anything. And she was the
most loving, I mean, like so much energy. She was
also like I mean, she had a million things going

(22:39):
on at that especially so like but just like just
a mama bear and like the most kind and another
one even after the movie that I remember, I remember
talking to her. We stayed in touch for a long
time and she had this tells you the type of
person that she is. But my brother was like applying

(23:02):
to USC and I remember one day we were just
randomly on the phone catching up and we were like, well,
I hope he can get his financial aid and blah
blah blah dah da da, And She's like, oh, I'll
have Frank call. I'll have Frank a call on his
beat wow and help him out, honestly, And she did
and it did help. But and I hate to say
that that wasn't anything I asked or like whatever. It

(23:23):
was just like her generosity and the type of that
she was. That was and she was like that about everything,
Like I mean, I don't I sound ridiculous, but these
were some of the nicest people I've ever worked with.
It is great one of my softest memories of work.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah did you do read?

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Just and Kathy Lee after afterwards to promote the movie
or no.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
No, I think Justin did though, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
She was actually good though she was. He was good
in the movie. I thought she was.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
She was because he was not.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
But she was very.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
Good movie, Harry, you know, I mean, for I don't
remember seeing in any of our paperwork when we were
reviewing the movie that he went on to do much
else after.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Right, No, I don't think.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
I don't think acting was his college actor.

Speaker 6 (24:22):
Yeah he was, since she she was such a mama bear.
Was she one of like one of the mom actors
that like brings their kid around on set a lot? Anyway,
like he he would have been there regardless if he
was in the movie.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
Do you think he.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Seemed very comfortable and like it was he knew?

Speaker 4 (24:38):
I remember, yeah, And they were very I feel like
she was like that even just as a mom, Like
she was like, oh, my kids will be with me
like wherever I go.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
So yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Cool though, because yeah, you're right at the time, especially
she was super busy.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
I mean, yeah, this is like the height.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Of this morning show.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah, the height of her Kathy Leena, I.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
Love, I love when you had someone like that, especially
like a woman actor that's on set, and you know,
one of my favorite things is to be in the
makeup trailer with them because you're just like looking like, oh,
you know, they've got they know how they want to
be looked, like presented, and you're.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Like, oh yeah, okay, oh yeah, can I get more
of that powder stuff?

Speaker 6 (25:22):
Oh yeah, you know, Okay, yes I should do. And
they're like, you're not playing.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
She was so beautiful, that's like even with out makeup.
I remember that's how I met her. I think I
met her in the makeup trailer. I remember seeing her
and I was like, she's so pretty.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, I mean she she kissed me on the cheek.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
I was.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
I was very happy she kiss me on It's pretty awesome.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
You kiss mister will kissed.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
She kissed me and it just happened.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
And Kathleen, okay, I'll never forget the yes exactly.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
My favorite is walking out on stage and Regis just going.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Look at the stars, and this kid dies and that's.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
How it started the whole interview and I was like, oh,
it's gonna be awkward for me.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
That's Regis, by the way.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Okay, So one of the things we we talk about
is obviously that you're you're trading characters, you're jumping in
from one character another and you end up at the
fall ball where there is And now I know I'm
the only person that's ever going to ask Maggie Boston
this question. Uh, had you heard of Nobody's Angel, the
band that was playing okay, because they were also on

(26:40):
Boy Meets World where they tried to be launched.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Wo.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yes, writer's characters stumbles upon uh a diner in the
middle of nowhere, and of course.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
All the waitresses are in an all girl.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Band called Nobody's Angel, who performs like you do. Wow,
So what what was shooting that scene? Like where you've
I mean, you've got they're obviously trying to launch. No,
they tried hard to launch Nobody's Angel. They really tried hard,
they really did.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
It was yeah the time that like, it's kind of
sad now that I'm hearing this that like all these
boy bands were coming up, but this girl band just
could not launch.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
And they tried, they really Yeah, And.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
I remember that being almost as exciting as like justin
Timberlake's doing the movie. Everybody was like and we got
nobody's angel to do a performance and they're really up
and coming and there whatever, and I was like, oh, okay,
they're good. They they I just didn't know they were.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
I mean they were, yeah, they were, they were fine.
They were a fine.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Band, fine band.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
And what was shooting that scene? Like, well, I remember. Actually,
it's really funny these memories now.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
That are coming back.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
I love remember that. I gotta I got to have
a break because we're shooting that. There's so long we
went into the night shooting. I remember that. Uh, that
day in that gym was like but because of the
both characters, because of the major wrap up of all

(28:16):
the parents coming in and the whole thing, and like,
you know, I feel like we oh wait, we I
just realized we did meet.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Both as a parent.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
We didn't meet my dad, did we We didn't meet
Jimmy did the.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Super which one? Which one?

Speaker 5 (28:33):
He was the party?

Speaker 4 (28:35):
He was a cheater, Okay, so we'll blame it on him.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
But yeah, we shot that all all I want to say.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
All day and all night I thought they I remember
thinking they were really good. And I also remember it
being a little bit like I don't know, I didn't
go to my I didn't go to my prom me
neither always had this thing from prom scenes or like
dance scenes where it was like, oh, so this is

(29:05):
sort of like my prom, and I got this like
live performance by this really cute band.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
And well, I'm about to make you very, very excited
because here, Yes, it's gonna we reunited them.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
No.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Uh, I didn't go to my prom either.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
And it's next Next year's my fiftieth birthday and my
tenth wedding anniversary.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
And my wife asked me what I wanted to do.
So I'm throwing my prom.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
No, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
We're getting We're doing it. We're getting a whole ballroom.
You'll all be invited. We're dressing up like the nineties.
I really want to You're no, you're coming, You're coming,
You're coming.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Well it's gonna be We're inviting everybody, all the guests
from Podme, TIRLD and Magic when everybody. I'm throwing the
prom that I did not get to go to in
high school and my wife, and it's also a tenth
wedding anniversary.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
You are going to be king and queen.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
It's gonna bell better. When are you kidding me if
we don't got my promise.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yes, no, So the theme is going to be the
problem I was supposed to go to nineteen ninety four,
so it's gonna wait, are.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
We the same age that's when I was at my gradu?
Oh no, I graduated in ninety eight.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
I think from.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Okay, yeah, do you not remember the year you graduated
high school?

Speaker 6 (30:18):
I just doesn't sound like she was at high school
for very many days.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
I was.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
I was working just like you in ninety four. So
I was like, oh I I in my head, I
was like, oh I graduated. I did.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Oh gotcha? Okay, Like, so we're.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Okay, right, I'm not turning fifty Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
No, I'm turning Yeah, okay, so it's fine.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
I can do math.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
No. So yes, so you're gonna be able to go
to a prom?

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, oh my gosh. And are you going to like,
is it going to be all ninety four?

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yes, ninety four prom.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
It is a full odd we're going to get like
we want limos and the cater It's going to be
the problem that I did not get the chance to
go to.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
It's going to be my fiftieth birthday party.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
So.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Tons of people there. It's going to be sick, so fun,
so brilliant.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Oh yeah, great idea.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
So you'll be invited ninety What did you say, you'll
be invited. You'll get to go to a prom.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
You'll I'm this is I mean, I know it's your birthday,
but you.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Know, yeah, And we're gonna invite the tone and everybody.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
We'll get everybody. We'll get everybody to come. It's gonna
be a ton of fun.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
I really is.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Sabrina can't come, but everybody else is going to have
a great time.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Will be there, she said, she'll be.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Im about to say, I'll be there.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
I'll be the prom crasher and everyone's every prom's got
to have a crasher.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
You're yeah, I'm from Connecticut originally.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
Okay, all right, yeah, trying to like place also like
the time of ninety four Connecticut.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Okay, yeah, So it's gonna be We're gonna do We're
gonna do it up.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
You're gonna have We're gonna be the tux is the
whole bit. It's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
I'm going to my prom finally after the last many years.
So everybody's coming, which will be fun. Speaking of back
back in the nineties when this premiered, Yes, do you
remember watching it?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Did you have a party? Did other people?

Speaker 6 (32:17):
There was some screenings, like Britney was at one of them. Yeah,
they did multiple ones.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
We had a couple of screenings. I remember.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
One of them was like the official one that ABC
or Disney had and it was like in a mini
theater and we all got to see it. And then No,
I feel like I just remember watching it with my family.
I don't think there was like a big premiere party.
And I do think by the time that it aired
was pop out. He was like, you know, it was

(32:48):
only like six months later, but those were like.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Crazy, everything changed.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Yeah, it was insane. So I feel like I didn't
watch with the cast. I know that, but we all
but you know, I sat in the living room and
watched with my family and my Kentucky fan like everybody
back home. I remember it like it was a big deal.
I think I had an article in my local paper
back home, and you know, I didn't make it on

(33:14):
regis a cat believe, but Louisville you're supporting.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
But that's the thing is what is the thing about?

Speaker 1 (33:21):
You come out to Hollywood, you're starring in major movies,
you're in TV or all that stuff. You're getting pressed,
you're getting publicity, and yet when something makes your local paper,
you're there's a pride there. That's the coolest thing in
the world.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
You know.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
I think it sort of like goes back to this
like prom thing we're talking about, too. There's a little
there's still I think we're always you know, ten, twelve, fifteen,
whatever those years are. There's like there's something maybe oh,
now I'm going to get deep, but like you know
that we're almost like proving to ourselves a little bit

(33:56):
of like we did it or we're doing it or
you know, are.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Also like all you bullies.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
There's like like really, I don't know, there's something really
special because it's also what we grew up with, like
what we saw in our hometown paper that was like,
you know, that was our source of everything, right, So
like a celebrity coming to town, getting on the cover,
and so our association.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
With like you know, making it is making it and
making it like doing what especially too. Yeah, you know,
everyone has those people that were kind of like doubters.
While you're you know, you're in Kentucky, you're in Connecticut,
I'm in Orange County and going to LA and trying
to trying to do this thing that everyone goes.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, I'm sure, and.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
Then when it happens in your actual like hometown paper,
you're like, say, do you.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
See I know I could do it?

Speaker 4 (34:53):
And you know, like your parents like you know, I
mean obviously you're on the cover up like people or
something like that, but for the most part they're not.
It's not going to mean the same like even your
parents being able to brag about you or something, your
grandparents to be able to like pick up the morning
paper and see you, like all of that just like
it means a lot. So you're right, yeah, there's still

(35:14):
this thing of like, oh, it's the most exciting interview
is like the hometown is the hometown?

Speaker 6 (35:20):
It is totally Did your life feel like it changed
quite a bit?

Speaker 5 (35:24):
Because this movie was.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
A big movie for the Wonderful World of Disney obviously
by the time it came out. Now Justin's huge, so
it's probably get a lot more publicity with that as well.
Your name's right up there, like did it feel like
it changed? Like you said, you you went pretty much
straight into the next movie, Like was it a lot
of change real fast or was it gradual and.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Just yeah, I do feel like it it was a
turning point for like, oh, I'm I'm like here doing
this now.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
This is not something.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
That's just like oh I'm I'm dipping my toe in
and seeing if it's going to work, like oh, okay,
I'm working And and then I do feel like that
was the marker of, you know, a bit more consistency
in work going forward. Like shortly after that, I I

(36:21):
think it was it was a good run for a
little while. And I don't know if it was model
behavior that did it or there's the fact that I
kind of came away with it with from that with
a little more confidence myself because right before that movie,
it was it had been it was like one of
those moments that was like should we pack up and

(36:42):
go home? Like this is hard too much?

Speaker 2 (36:45):
This is wow?

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah, Like I it really was one of those moments.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
It's like you almost feel like you get some kind
of weird like right at that breaking point of I
maybe I should not do this, or cansider a culinary school,
or go home and go back to school, you know,
whatever it was, those were all things too.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
I still might go to culinary school. That's true, I might.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Can I tell you I kind of want to to.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, I just really want to do it.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
I just want to not like my application just like
ready to be submitted.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Really.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
I love cooking too, Yeah, so I really would love
to to not follow recipes to make my own, like
to have that confidence of knowing why you put certain
ingredients into things and you.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
Know, stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (37:33):
And I feel like I've picked that up, but like
I would love to, like even just learn how to
chop better, how to hold my life better too, you.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Know, just like all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yes, I totally hear you. I did. I did in in.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
You know this last year start going to some school
of wine and that's like sort of what I could
commit to right now. But I was like, all right,
let's let's go, let's try this first. But I'm telling you,
I mean culinary not off the table, but one of
the best culinary schools or you know, you know for
small town or what I knew of culinary schools at

(38:08):
the time.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Was in Louisville.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
I remember having that like.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Like panic or you know, when you're I was really down,
Like I remember being really really down right before this
came along, and this was a game changer. So it's
a real marker for like what kind of kept me
in La and then it came.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
So I mean it sounds like between that and all
the people you worked with, this was just like couldn't
have been a better experience.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
For you, It couldn't have been a better experience for me.
It really is the warmest when I think back on
the memories and I think back on the innocence of
the time and life and you know what I didn't
know and how like it just was, Uh it was.
It was really really, really special And I became a

(39:05):
Starbucks like addict because of it. I had never had
Starbucks or coffee in my life. And justin Timberlake introduced
me a chay tea latte because they were all freezing
one night on set and they made a run for
chi tea lattes and I remember him calling it Christmas
in a cup and we I I still love Starbucks.

(39:25):
I don't always get the chai tea, but like, anyway,
the memories of this movie are so like rich and
ready and like it just really was.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah, Okay, so my last two questions, Okay, first, have
any of your co stars on psych ever seen Model Behavior?

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
In fact, Tim and I recently both did rewatches of
our Wonderful World of Disney movies.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
That was my next question is.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
If you were guy rewatch? Okay, good, okay, good.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
We did Luck of the Irish and a model behavior
because he had never seen it and I had never
seen Luck of the Irish.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Have you seen you've seen?

Speaker 6 (40:07):
That was one of our like first when we first
started doing the podcast. That was one of our early
on ones because it's a giant, giant.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
This is a favorite job, man, this is our job, and.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
That is a fan favorite, like favorite.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Jamus Deiernan is his character and all the river dancing
and the thing, you know, it was just it was
too much.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
It's so good and so yes we have, but I
do I think he's the only one. You can't find
model behavior?

Speaker 6 (40:38):
No, did you have to get like a VH just
like thing because it found a link?

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Okay, that's what we did through that Korean VPN.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
I'm sure, yeah, see, But that's the difference is Luck
of the Irish was it was a Disney Channel original movie,
and you were a Wonderful World Disney.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
So My two movies were Wonderful World of Disney, which
is why.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
You can't find them anywhere, and so the Wonderful are
not on Disney Plus.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Okay, so there's something there that.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, it's we think it and we think it's it's
a music. We think it's the music rights or something
along those lines. That they signed all the music rights
for d cooms, but they did not sign them for
Wonderful World of Disney's, which is also technically ABC.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
So we're thinking there's something in that.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah, So hopefully all the Wonderful Worlds will eventually show up.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Make it Disney Plus. We'll see.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
You just got to think it's like like model behavior.
It has such a nostalgic feel for so many people
it has. It's just something that you're like, oh, I
remember that movie, and like the fact that you can't
get on on Disney Plus.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
They're gonna change that. They're definitely gonna change it.

Speaker 6 (41:49):
Figure it out, put a different song in where there
was the music, if that's what they've got to do.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Yes, putting the Wonderful Old the Disney movies on there
be good for them, yes, yeah, yes, so yeah, they do.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
They need to figure that out.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
They'll just they'll take the end sync song out and
put in a Backstreet Boys song.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
It'll be fine.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
Because they're they're no one.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
They don't caren.

Speaker 6 (42:17):
The funny part is is like maybe back then and yeah,
you know whatever, but you think of like especially anyone
that was around that time now where their lives are,
whether they have kids or not. But like Disney's so
important to so many people's lives, Like they would be like, yes,
put our song on another like yes, we want it
on Disney Bluss, like of course we want this next
generation to also know, which they obviously do with Backstreet

(42:40):
and of course in sync the best one. Like they
just you know, they they want the next generations to
be in on it. That's how this next generation knows
about so many I know, but so many people have
found out, Like for the movies that were out in
the early two thousands, they're all big fans those movies too,

(43:00):
because of Disney Plus.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
It puts it right there in front of them.

Speaker 6 (43:04):
So I mean, I think it's only a matter of
time till these movies are going to be featured on
the on the Plus plus.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Well, thank you so much for taking the time. We
know that you're incredibly busy and so fitting us in.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
Oh no, this is great. I so many days got
like jumbled and whatever. But we we and then they
ended up having me work today. I had it off initially,
and so now I'm like, oh, I'm going to go
back to work now.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
But and that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
But uh, but I really wanted to do this, so
I really wanted it to work out, and I'm so
glad it did.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
And I think you were amazing.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
Really, it really was awesome to watch you shine and
you just hold, like you said, hold this entire movie
on your shoulders, because you were pretty much the only character.
Most times in the movie it was just you and
the other you know, you're both your characters.

Speaker 5 (44:02):
You did such a great job, such a great job.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
So much.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
It's one of my happiest memories of everything. I love.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
That's great.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
And you've got a new show you're working on now,
right that just came out.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Yes, it just premiered two weeks ago. It's called Boston Blue.
It's on CBS. It's after well, I guess, depending on
where you are. It's after a Fire Country on Friday
nights on CBS and and yeah, it's really cool. I'm
playing like a superintendent of a police department.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
So yeah, type casting.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
And you've got glasses now, nerd, way to go?

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Oh wait, wait ready, Oh.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
My god, she's gorgeous.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
Oh supermodel. I just heard RuPaul's song. Come on, supermodel,
work cover girl.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
I'll just leave you all with that.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Thank you awesome, I'll see my problem.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Yes to say, I'm expecting an invite a hundred.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
I promise you one hundred percent, you'll be on the list.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Thank you all so much. This was lovely.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Bye bye bye, geez the worst.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Oh my god, she is so gorgeous. Jeez, the wage.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
We always say this, like we we we joke around
when we say this when we're like, oh my god,
they look the same.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
She literally hasn't aged. And I'm using that, I'm using
literally properly. She literally has an aged It's weird. No, yeah,
so much.

Speaker 6 (45:38):
She actually almost gives me a little bit of Alicia
Silverstone vibes.

Speaker 5 (45:43):
Like and she she hasn't aged either, so I can
see that.

Speaker 6 (45:46):
But her her perfect, her perfect quoft of her bang.

Speaker 5 (45:50):
I was just like, jeez, the wage, Holy cow.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
She Yeah.

Speaker 6 (45:57):
And this is another another interview of course, I'm assuming
if they had a bad time on their sets, they
wouldn't want to come on and talk about it. But
isn't it incredible to hear another one saying like it
was a great environment for her to work on and
she was a young actress like everyone she worked with,
to work with Kathy Lee Gifford and hear how wonderful

(46:20):
she was, like, yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
You know what I mean, Justin Timberlake.

Speaker 6 (46:23):
And it's funny because now we don't always think of
Justin as an actor, but if you really think back
before and.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
Seek, he was on the Mickey Mouse Club.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Like heine, this was his first.

Speaker 5 (46:35):
Like acting gig.

Speaker 6 (46:37):
But to hear how like humble he was and like
kind of nervous, asking lots of questions, wanting to like
learn as much as he can could while he was
on set.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
Like, I love that. That is just so amazing.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Well, we got to get his side of the story.
We got to get his side of the story. He's
got to come on and talk to us.

Speaker 6 (46:53):
Well. I called Joey Fatone, I know you're good friends
with him too. When we were getting ready to do
I text him, I said, Hey, did you ever get
on set of this and he's like no, He's like,
we none of us. I don't think any of us
really went on the set. We met, we hung out
with with Maggie after though.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Yeah, because they were on our set all the time.
I mean, those guys, because Danielle was dating, they were
I mean they were on our set all the time.
But well, anyway, yes, she's awesome and uh, well you
meet her at my prom?

Speaker 2 (47:20):
I know.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
So, yeah, that's very exciting news.

Speaker 6 (47:23):
Will I feel like you gotta keep you probably got
to keep that hush Hushki could catcha get a little
explosive with how many people are gonna want to come
to this prom.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
It's it's a problem. The more the merrier, all right,
the more the marrier. We're hoping to have, you know, a.

Speaker 6 (47:35):
Couple o Instagram feed, but go ahead and click on
that and get your invite.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
I've got it.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
You've got to know the person that's part of the
caveat has got to know the people.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
But no, this was really awesome.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Thank you Maggie so much for joining us, and thank
you all for joining us for this really fun episode.
Uh yeah, another person who just had a great time
working with Disney. You know, you can say a lot
about Disney. I can say a lot about Disney. Anybody's
worked with Disney. But for the most part, the experiences
are wonderful. You look back at working with Disney and
you get to do so many cool things. They treat

(48:11):
you well. It's it's a really fun fun company.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
To work for.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
It really is, absolutely so.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Yeah, but thanks everybody, and don't forget to join us
next time on an other feed where we're going to
be watching stuff, because that's like our job and whatever.
So that's the whole the whole kind of thing we
were shooting for is watching stuff and talking about it,
and I think so far we've done pretty darn good. Yeah,
so thank you so much and we will see you
next time.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
Bye bye,