February 19, 2024 • 42 mins
What’s up Soul Skaters?! "Brink!" star Sam Horrigan joins Will and Sabrina to talk about his audition for the movie, his relationship with fans today and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome to another park Hopper episode, and we are going
back to something that again I got some ish for
on the on the old Instagram and Internet machine because
by and I will well, I'm gonna watch it. I'm
gonna watch it again because people did not love that.
I did not absolutely love Brink. Uh, so I gotta
(00:37):
go back and watch.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
But because you're wrong, that's also absolutely possible.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
You're wrong.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I am wrong more often than I'm right. Just ask
everyone in my life.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
But no.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
One of the people we got to talk to, though,
which was so much fun, was Christina Vidal and interview.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
This couldn't have been nicer.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
She's running around with her family in the car at
the time, which is like the coolest thing in the world. Yes,
but there's one person that we got asked over and
over and over again to get and so while we
normally wouldn't do a second park Opper episode on on
one movie, we had to because we have the opportunity
today to talk to him.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
He played val for.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
The bad guy, the bad guy, the villain, the villain
of Brink with the great with arguably some of the
greatest hair, certainly some of the greatest skating, which we
want to get into Yes, but we are very lucky
today on our park Opper episode to be joined by
the one and only Sam Horrigan.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
How are you guys?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Welcome?
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Wow, how's it going?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You have certainly one of the coolest zoom areas we've
seen of anybody.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I put a lot of effort into it. Things were
moved around just for you, guys. That's how important this
is for me.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Looks so good.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Well, welcome. We're so glad you.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Could be here.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
We got asked over and over and over again to
bring you on again.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Everyone needed to get an interview everyone. The nostalgia would
Brink is just epic. People were instantly you gotta do Brink,
you gotta do Brink. So we did, and then it's
you gotta get Sam.
Speaker 7 (02:30):
We need to talk tobou spoken They did, do you
Now there's been with what Sabrino saying, there's been this
enormous resurgence of Brink in the last few years.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Have you felt this?
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Yeah? I get messages at like three am in the morning.
Sometimes they'll play it late night and people will be
reaching out to me like, oh, we just got back
from the bar and we're all watching Brink and then
people have actually who used to skate when the movie
came out, they stopped, they became parents, and then now
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they're back skating again. Yes, that's like there is a
crazy resurgence of just skating in general of rollerblading.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Is there really? I didn't know?
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I would go as far as Sade Usher must have
been a rollerblader back in his day, because he brought
us to the super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I'm going to take a little bit of credit for
the super Bowl halftime, so because I feel like I
might have been a little bit of inspiration me and
the rest of the coast just saying.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I had to have been a Brink fan, had Tom
There's just no way around it.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
If we do a Brink too, we'll have maybe it'll
be a musical.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah right, probably would be for Disney, I can tell
you that for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So do you remember we we'd love to kind of
start with do you remember the first time you heard
about Brink?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Did you What was the audition process like where you
offered the role? What happened?
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Okay, so the audition came through like any other audition,
But the second I saw it, I just had to
have it. So when I started acting was when I
was about ten, and when I was ten, at about
the exact same time, I started rollerblading too. Wow, when
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I wasn't acting, I was rollerblading, okay, to the point
where when I did Grace under Fire, I was not
contractually supposed to roller blade at all, and I ended
up breaking my rib cage. Oh no, no, I had
to play it off like I was fine. We got
through the week. But it was a rough one.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Oh my, so were you like in full of like
bandage rib cage pulled together?
Speaker 5 (04:45):
It was nothing you can really do for your ribs.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
No, but you just have.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
To take short breaths because like I had splintered bone
that my lungs were expanding against.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
That was probably thirteen and a half, maybe a couple
of years before Brink.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
All right, well wait if we're talking a couple of
years before Brink. So you did Boy Meets World before
you did Brink.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Right, Boy Meets World was my first like real acting job.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yes, yes, Oh that's so cool.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
You guys sent me off. You guys gave me the
wind of my sales that I needed to continue forward.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Do you know you were also inarguably the most famous,
most popular, most important episode of Boy Meets World ever.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
That's true because that's the first episode the penga.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, that's the first ever episode. Is you being again?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Kind of you seem to be cast, especially when you're younger,
as kind.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Of the bully, jerk guy. Why where did that come from?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Always was that kind of a thing, as you were
always cast as the bad kid.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
You were good at it, I guess.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
I love it, yeah, because I feel so. I feel
like the bad guys have all these different like dimensions
to him, and it's so fun to play the bad guy. Yeah.
When it comes to Val, I think that's the reason
why people take to him so much is because he
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just loved being bad. Yeah. He just took so much
to light in driving them crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Oh he was fearless and you were so confident. You
were so confident. I think that part of your character
was really appealing.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Is because we talked about between you and Eric, it
was kind of this. You know, you were either a
Val or a brink like girl like as the girl fans, right.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
I think most people were Brits.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
They were either like they loved the bad guy or
they liked the like squeaky clean brink. He hadn't had
to choose, right, could like both of us?
Speaker 5 (06:58):
True, maybe they love to hate me sure later in life. Yes,
I think there's some fans that now are like more
on the side of X blades, But I kind of
was was definitely the winner when it came to the
like Bop magazine fan base.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah that I mean, in all honesty, your character did
almost try to kill.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yes, almost almost tried tried to kill a girl on
the Disney Channel, with no remorse whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
At the end of the movie, even after it got
like blown up, you were like, yeah, I did it.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Yeah, whatever, just rides off to come back again unexpectedly
at any given time. Hasn't learned anything from the entire experience.
That's so great.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Okay, So the audition comes through like any other. We
talked to Christina who said that she had to rollerblade
for the audition.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Did you have to rollerblade for the audition as well?
Speaker 5 (07:57):
So the first audition, so there were multiple auditions. Obviously
they paired us up. They tried to figure out if
it would work. But the first audition just going in
was was no skating required. But I came in with
my skating double bag. So I had my skates that
were obviously used. They were all like busted up roller
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blades that I would skate and have to like I'd
break off the wheels or the bearings would break and
I'd have to like engineer him back together. So I
showed him. I was like, I can do that, real skater.
I could. I could do the acting and I can
skate too, Like, you guys have gotta hire me for this.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
You gotta give me this, you gotta give you this.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
But still I wasn't really sure what was going to happen, right,
And so when it came to matching up, I walk
in and Eric vont Detten's in there, and I had
already done a movie opposite Eric, Escape Twitch Mountain. Yeah,
I knew that we played well. Isn't he the bad
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guy in him as the rob? And so when I
saw him, I was like, let's do this, baby.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Oh man?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
So okay, So did they pair you up the first
day you were there or was it just single stuff
the first day?
Speaker 5 (09:19):
No, first day it was just straight normal read with
the casting director. And then I think this, I think
it was the second audition was the one where they
brought in Eric and then we did a table read after.
It's amazing. I mean, the fan base in the movie.
I don't think there's enough credit that goes to how
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well it was cast and how amazing the crew was,
and how awesome the locations were beautiful. I mean it's
like Miami Vice.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it really was.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
It was great, even the the graffiti and everything, the
just how bright the skate parks were, then the ocean
behind it, just everything pops on screen.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Was that now?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Christina said she never got a chance to shoot in Washington.
Did you go to Washington?
Speaker 5 (10:13):
We went to Washington?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Apparently some of it says some of it. If you
look on the internet machine, it says some of it
was shot in Washington, Washington State.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
It's wild. I wonder what that was.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I wonder if there was any It was maybe b.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Rolls straight along the shore, every beach you can think of,
and most of those skate parks were built from scratch
for the movie. Yes, oh yeah, yeah. So like the
pit remember in the open end like scene where like
x Blades comes in. Ye, there was a real there
was the real Venice Beach pit from the movie. What
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was it Oh, it's with Roland Brashing. I haven't seen it.
It is It is such a good movie.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yes, the rations like air was even before Airborne, wasn't it.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Yes, yes, okay, genre type of film, yeah, yes. And
so there's they had the real pit, which is like
a spot where everybody could graffiti, but ours they actually
built from scratch and just made it amazing.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Did you guys get a lot of time to just
kind of play around in there during filming?
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Are you somebody one of the actors would get injured, right,
So they would tell us like, you need to wear
all of your pads. You need to wear helmet and
elbow pads, riskards, all that stuff, and don't skate unless
you have to, okay, And so we would get a
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little bit in like here and there, and then because
I could skate, they would allow me to, Like if
I had a trick that I thought that I could,
you know, pull off, they would allow me to do it,
and they'd shoot that, and then they would go to
the stunt double and they would say, Okay, now you
do that, and he'd be like, I don't do that trick.
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That's not the way that it works. Like everybody skates differently. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
So one of the things we loved about the movie
was the fact that you couldn't They shot it in
such a way where there's a lot of times you
could not tell the difference between the stunt double and
the people that were.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Right the actors.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
It was unreal.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
It looked like, look you guys, I mean, well, I
know that you did quite a bit of it because
you were at a professional.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Skater level at what fifteen is when you kind of
when you.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Were you a pro skater or close to it.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
I technically I was pro, I guess because of the movie,
Like that's where the pro title kind of came from.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Okay, and you were doing a lot of your own skating.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Yeah, I do most of the stuff. Yeah, did you really?
There was I did a lot of Like my thing
was street skating, and so the street skate, like the downhill,
that's me.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
You're doing the downhill.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Man, you're kidding me. You are going down that downhill,
it's you.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
It was crazy. So the first time we go to
the actual downhill area is the scene where we're up
by the Victory bell and or Korean bell. I can't
remember the exact name, but that amazing area. And so
I go to Brink right and I tell him there's
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a turn just before Kenner stand the outside, and then
I skate off kind of backwards, just kind of like
giving this like evil look, right, and then I make
this cut, this like abrupt cut, and then and then
the camera you know, changes to close up of Frodi Gabriella.
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So that cut that I made was because I had
not gone down that hill yet and it was terrifying.
It just drops off. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
It definitely looks that way.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
But after that I did Jake Elliot, one of the
stunt doubles, was like, let's do this, and so I
went down with him, and then after that I did
all the other takes and it was invigorating.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
That is awesome.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Did you know a lot of the stunt guys from
just your regular skating life?
Speaker 5 (14:33):
I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean I was like geeking
out on the pros that we had on there because
these were the guys that I idolized as as a skater,
and and so I had grown up with all of them,
and so when Airborne came out, that was when I
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started skating like that is that was the start of
all of us, like me and my group skating. Yeah,
and then Brink was like the second movie that they
got to be a part of, which was Yes, it
was so cool. I had so much fun and I
actually got so much better as a skater shooting the
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movie and spending the time with the pros.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Okay, oh, I guess that makes sense because they're showing you.
I mean it's like you're trying, You're doing their tricks,
they're doing your tricks, all that kind of stuff, Right.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
You see what's possible. Yeah. Once you see somebody else
do the trick that you thought was impossible, all of
a sudden you realize that maybe it's possible for you too.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
And then that's why like backflip and motocross impossible. Nobody
can do it. One person does it, and then like
by the next year, there's like fifty people that could
do the trick already. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
So you talked about fracturing your ribs while you were
doing Grace Underfire?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
So Christina told us that she actually got hurt while filming.
She slammed her tailbone.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Down when she was dropping in when she was doing.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
A dropping definitely happened. Yeah, did you get hurt?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
It all while well filming the movie.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
So the pink ramp in the in the semi final yeah, okay,
where Brin comes in with his shades on.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, when you didn't recognize him because he got the
shed look.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
But it come with some skating attached. So that pink ramp.
It was metal, and I was not used to skating
on metal ramp. And then the fact that it was
painted it like the wheels stuck to it. So when
I first the day before, I came to just kind
of test out the ramp, and I couldn't do huge
tricks on half pipes. We had a half pipe that
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was in like the closest big city that I would
get to like here and there, so I could I
could drop in, I could do some jumps, I could
do a little bit of grinding. But I wasn't the
guy doing all the flips in the movie. And so
I went to see how much air I could get,
and as I went to jump up, I actually jumped
out straight down. But luckily, I mean, if you skate,
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you it's like if you were a w W wrestler
like you, you have to know how to fall, so
luckily no brakes or anything like that. I did sunburn
my eyes because I was like Casper, the friendly ghost
in the movie, and we shot outside in the sun
every day. I guess the biggest injury I had.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
You burned your eyes?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Yes, yeah, they were putting like like I dropped in
them all the time. They were like.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Super I've never heard of that. I never heard of that.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
What's amazing is the fact that we shot the entire
movie outside and I never got any color whatsoever. And
then Eric like phenomenal, Tan, don't.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
You love people like that? It's just like, how are
you constantly Tan?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
One of the questions we get asked a lot is
the worm sandwich?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Okay, I was just gonna oh, yes, I almost puked.
I literally almost puked watching that again. I don't remember
it being so realistic and disgusting. What was that like?
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Well, because puke?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
If I had to act that out as a.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
As a fifteen year old kid shooting a movie and
seeing that in the script, I will honestly tell you
I was a little concerned with whether or not I
was actually going to be getting real worms. Yeah, you
never know, Like, how big is the budget? On this stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Just give them worms, He'll be fine.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
So we used uh, they were like fishing worms. So
they were like these giant rubbery kind of like rubber
band type of things. And but that shot in the
film is one continuous shot. It's incredible where there's real
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worms on the sandwich, Gabrielle picks it up, walks around,
and all of a sudden it's swapped out with the
other one, same continuous shot. So cool.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Oh wow, that is cool.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Thank you, Thank god that they swapped it out in time,
because you could have that could have been a really
bad day.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Yeah, it would have been an entirely different film.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Oh that's so funny. The other thing we get asked
about quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
That's something we have to address because I had this
in the nineties as well.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Phenomenal hair in this movie.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Just the hair.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Top was your hair hair routine to keep the middle
part bad guy haircut alive.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
So my hair was much longer when I got the job.
I may actually cut it shorter.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
For the movie. I was like a skater rocker kid.
I mean yeah, they were trying to like cast me
for like rock star movies and stuff like that. At
that time.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
So it was like, really, it was just it was
my hair.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
It was just I didn't do anything to it at all.
Just I always wore a backwards hat. That's just that
was my look.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Yes, oh, I love that so much.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
One thing that I would And I bring this up
because this is a claim the fame of my life
that took place in the movie that is probably completely
unnoticeable to anyone else but me.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
These are the best.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
So after Brink organizes, me and the rest of my
team getting beaten up by the adults, weird, weird, And
then the first day a school, I come back and
I take Gabrielle's shoes and tuck them over there. I
lobbed those shoes up and get them on the wire.
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I actually threw those on that wire.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Did you really?
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yes? Yeh.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Take.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
So this is the thing they like. Before we showed
up on set, the crew was there with the director
and everybody. They were trying to get an actual shot
of the shoes flying from ground level up there, and
they just weren't going to show the actual person who
threw them. And they kept trying, and they kept trying,
and everybody was all the grips were coming up to
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be like, I can do it, you know I can
do that. Nobody could get it. So what they do
is they put a crew member up on a crane
and he had a pair of shoes and they had
the camera shot go down. And so they come up
to me and they're like, listen, it's impossible, like nobody,
nobody can get that up there. Just throw it up
as high as you can and then he's gonna drop
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the shoes into the shot on the wire.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
And so I just take the shoes and I lobb
it up there and it hits. And it took everything
in me not to just or even like it was
someone who cuts out of the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
That's I gotta go back and watch that seat together.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
If here ain't those things, And it's like, now I
got to go back and now I just have to
watch your face to see like that.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I think that's so funny. When is the when's the
last time you watched the movie?
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Oh? Man? Really say last year? I watched it? Okay,
Oh yeah, it brings back so many good memories. I mean,
I had it was it was crazy, like I am
so thankful to be a part of this movie. If
I was not an actor in it, I would be
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just as much of a huge fan of it. And
I do feel like the characters were so awesome, The
storyline was so awesome, the directing and the locations were
so cool that if they would have put another actor
playing Vow, it would have been awesome. The fact that
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I got the opportunity to be val is just it's
so cool.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Oh oh man, I have to go back and watch again.
I know people got mad at me because I'd never
seen it before. Wait, I had that wasn't little because
I was a little older, So I like, you know,
by the time Brink came out, I was like twenty,
so I wasn't watching dcon and so I watched it.
I watched it twice and I came in and I
was like, here are my criticisms. And people went nuts.
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They're like, don't criticize Brink.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
I'm darious.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
They did not like it. I'm like, I'll watch again.
I'll watch again. Oh it was so funny.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Oh man, You've got some loyal fans out there. They
also really loved you in talking about little Giants.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Most people do not put two and two together. Really,
that bow is also Spike.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
How do they not really, they don't.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Like people's mind get blown when they figure out that
that I'm I'm one and the same actor. Now what's
wild is Joey Simmeren, who is Worm according to Gabriella
on X Blades, is also on The Cowboys and Little Giants. Oh,
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he's also my like's secondhand.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Like, fine, it's such a sinner.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Which film did you have more fun doing? I know
it's tough, but I mean your rollerblading, So I figure because.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
That's here, I would say that because of the overlap
with the skating brink.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, two of your loves combinding.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Every acting job I've ever done was a dream come true.
Boy meets world dream come true. But Brink has this
like special place in my art.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Yeah, I can see that bow is still.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
In my being. Yes, I did a cameo last week,
and they asked me to just like kind of pull
upon val because this was a cameo someone was purchasing
for a friend who purchased them a cameo from brink
eron and so I came in like with full roast
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level one hundred. Oh. Very offended by the fact that
Brink was called upon for the first cameo, so I
made my presence known as well. That awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
So all of the kind of jerk characters you've played,
where does Val rank?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Top five?
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Vowel m hm. I mean, so I've played a guy
that In One Tree Hill, we kidnapped the two main
characters who we were from a rival school, and they
beat us. So we kidnapped them, stripped them down to
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their boxers, and then left them in the middle of nowhere.
So that was pretty rough. Yeah, Spike definitely had serious,
serious like our Yeah, he could be very bad. He
would probably be ranked up there with like a young
Mike Tyson maybe oh okay, wow and uh, but Val
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would be the topper. Yeah. He almost killed the girl
on the Disney Channel, no remorse whatsoever. Now in his defense,
in VAL's defense, I would say that Brink was really
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instigating a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
So you're saying, if you watch Karate Kid again, it's
actually Daniel's fault.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I keep thinking the same thing I keep thinking about
because it was the same that kid had no remorse either,
got his leg.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Off and not kidding me, he called upon a bunch
of adults to beat us up because we took over
the skating area. He sent me a bunch of worms
that obviously could have killed me. That could have been fatal.
Nobody knows, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
In all fairness, when you when you first rolled into
the skate park, the first thing you did was knock
him down.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
That's true. Well, I distracted him a little in a way,
you know, a comedic like nobody messing with your friends.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
You know, I'm glad you're here. Here's the page.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
We were friends, but apparently we weren't. Now.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Could you ever see because because at the end of
the day you got the same passions.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Could you see a world where Val and Gabriella end
up together?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
There's no chance?
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (28:37):
I mean that was very charming.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
So yeah, that would be that would result in a
really really bad reality.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Storyline.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Or would Gabriel eventually say, hey, Brink, you're a nice guy.
Soul skating is making you no money, whereas is now
the captain of X Blades and making several thousand dollars
a year doing what I love.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
It's really nice to see you, Bronc. It's Brank. Whatever
do you I mean? I see a possibility of that happening?
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Come on? I always like to think about like where
everybody would be. Now, I was just gonna they stayed
upon the same course in life, and I don't know
where the soul Skaters would be. I would worry about them.
They would be struggling.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Where's val val Will probably.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Would have avenged himself against Jimmy. Yeah, he probably would
have found a way to eat, to take over Team
X Blades, or to create another company that would destroy
Team X Blades. And then I think that he would
probably make sure that he got the final word and
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the last laugh with the soul Skaters law.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I think so che sinister dun dund dum.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
All Right, what was because I know we're gonna we
could talk Brink all day, because I want to talk
about Brink all day. But you got to work with
some pretty incredible people throughout your career, and there's one
specifically who is just a legend that I want to
talk a little bit about.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
What was it like Working with Rick moranis awesome?
Speaker 5 (30:24):
That was another one where totally starstruck. Honey, I shrunk
the kids. I mean, like like Blockbuster, one of the
coolest movies ever. You know, working with him was phenomenal.
I didn't have a whole lot of scenes directly with him.
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We were in the scene together, right, but when the
time that I did spend he was obviously like a
guy who wore his heart on his sleeve. Awesome. He
was going through so much while we were shooting that movie,
which many of us knew, right, and the fact that
he could even continue through and finish the movie was amazing.
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And the way that he stepped out of Hollywood to
step up as the father of his house after everything
that happened is extremely commendable and hopefully I would love
to see him back of me the best.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
That's what I say.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
It's like, did you did he ever feel like he
was a coach? Like you kind of looked up to him?
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Or well, I mean no, because I was on the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
So you know, I was just wondering if he's still
just because he's there.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
You know, Ed O'Neill was my coach.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Ed O'Neill would always feel like a coach, would never
it never felt.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Right when I was on The Little Giants?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
What did Evil? What was that O'Neill like?
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Because that O'Neil was is a classically trained yes stage
actor who then has the people are like Oh no.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
He started on Marriti Children like No. I remember seeing
he was at the Hartford stage.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Watch him on Miami Vice.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Oh really, have you ever seen No.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
What Miami Weis? Episode? Now you will have a newfound
higher respect for him as an actor. He is incredible
in that he ends up getting killed in it. It's crazy.
He's like an undercover agent that gets caught up in
it all and lost in it and then I can't
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wait to see this one back out and then he
ends up dying at the end. Wow, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
He's one of those actors where people he was like
a Leslie Nielsen, where people know him as being funny,
and then you go back and go like.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
No, this was a classically trained actor. I mean these
are stage actors.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
That he could have gone any which way.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
That's what made them so good, and he was He
would have.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Been successful whichever direction they went, absolutely and he was.
He was great. I mean again, not a whole lot.
I mean we did our scenes together, which was phenomenal, awesome,
but then there were times where we actually got to
kind of like chit chat and that was the best. Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
You mentioned Brink two, so you get the script for
Brink two tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
What is the ideal script for you? What is Brink two?
Pitch us? Brink took too?
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Yes, I would imagine that. Obviously, now everybody's older, there's
probably a resurgence in skating and that's where their past
cross once again.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Oh do you think it'd be their kids going at it?
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Or would they?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
And they're like the head of the team.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Can you still rollerblade? Do you still rollerblade?
Speaker 5 (34:09):
I can do you. I don't fall like I used to,
None of us do. So I this middle finger left hand.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
The last time I was skating, well like aggressive skating
was about two years ago, and I was at a
skate park and I was just kind of like getting
back into it and getting my like you know, sea.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Legs, your sea legs back.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
And so there was a ledge that I was going
to grind and it was a curved one, which is
you know, we didn't have a lot of those back
in the day, And so I was going out a
little bit and then finally I was like, okay, I'm
going to like hit it one more time, go for
this completely commit. I'm like I'm probably gonna get hurt,
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but that's not a big deal, like you have to
accept that before you start skating. But I gauge shit
a little wrong. Instantly new that I broke the finger,
which was fine, but me and my overconfident old school
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skating self, I just put a splint on it and
didn't even go to the doctor. And it's the joint together,
so I needed to get a surgery so that I
could move it again. Oh yeah, So that's probably my
worst injury, which was like from doing the simplest thing.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Ever, that's always the way it works.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
I never felt more like a soul skater.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
You hurt yourself for freak like the soul skaters.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Did I know how Gabrielle and the rivalry continues, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You're you're reaping what you sew for somebody going in
like I'll take him out and just putting something on
the on the grinding thing.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
Is it a rail that somebody could have? Maybe it
was brink. I didn't even think about that, is it?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Maybe you didn't see it?
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Eric out of nowhere, Gabriella is hiding behind a tree,
throws some rocks out there. Just taking me.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Out got you back? Speaking of which, do you talk
to anybody from the film anymore.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Periodically, I'll talk to so man. It was it was
such a bummer because Eric invited me to his fortieth
birthday party. Oh man, I was so excited to go,
and but then I got a East coast event that
that conflicted and so I uh, and then we did
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we did like a kind of like a reunion type
of thing, just through like a video call. But that's
that's it so far.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Oh my, everything is coming back and Brink is one
of those things.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
I don't know if you're aware of this, but they
did a we talked about this.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
In the in the pod when we were rewatching it
for the first time. They did a list of where
people rank these movies.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, and Brink was number one.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
This was not that long ago.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
This was not a small publication.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
It was like they ranked all of the dcoms of
all time and Brink was number one.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Yeah, it's definitely it's it's got a cult following and
it's one of those movies that if you're if you
don't know, like it, like it always feels good to
watch it. Yeah for me, like like those so my
my like number one all time favorite movie. Back to
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the Future first.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
One great movie perfect movie.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Any day I can put that on. I'm gonna love it.
I'm gonna enjoy it. Know all the lines, I know
exactly what's gonna happen when it happens, and and every
time it's phenomenal. Yeah, and Brink is similar to that.
It reminds us of this, like this time in film,
like the nineties classic film, and just the style of it,
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and the characters and the good guys are super good
and the bad guys are super bad, and and you know, somehow,
somehow the good guy's gonna win, somehow, the bad guy's
gonna he's gonna learn a lesson, not with Val, but
no learning that Val.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
But the skating is so good too, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
And I think for the young generation of that time,
it's awesome to look back and go, man, I just
remember thinking, you know.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Foul was so cool, he was so good. And same
with Brink, like just you got again.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
The way they were able to edit to where it
literally looks like the entire cast that's rollerblading is doing
it the whole time. It does not look obvious. We've
watched other movies where it is obvious.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
There was no CGI back then. We didn't have any of.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
That, and it makes a difference in the movie. Is
it's wholesome.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
It's got such a great you know, a great message,
and you know, beyond that.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
It's like, it's got great hair. And that's what the
girls want. They wanted a lot of hair and the
hair with.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
A lot of hair and a lot of cute boys.
That's what they got.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
That could be us the plot line too, you know,
but we have competing hair salons.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
They've done that. I think, what are you doing now?
And where can people find you?
Speaker 5 (39:39):
Me? Well, I do a lot of charity type of
work with a church and teach kindergartener's Sunday school. Wow,
the Pokemon pictures.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
And sorry, well from Brink is a Sunday school teacher.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Right, that might be the best thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Love that every single person's redeemable. Apparently that would.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Have to be in the second Brink movie. That would
have to be part that all.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
From Brink is a Sunday school teacher. How do we
not leave it there? Thank you so much for joining us,
and uh hopefully you'll be back for Brink two. This
time it's personal.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
Thanks you guys, Thank you. I have a great day too.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I love meeting people that are we talk about this
on Podmet's World because we all had so much fun
doing the show. I love meeting people that did something
that mattered to other people, but it so mattered to
them too, having so much fun doing it, and they
love talking about it and being involved in it. And
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so when you see his face light up when he's
talking about Brink, yes, that was really cool.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
And to know, I mean again, it meant so much
to him because I remember that with the Cheetah Girls
and things that you get to collaborate multiple loves like
his love for rollerblading and the sport, and then he
gets to do that in a role acting like you know,
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he went to that audition.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
I mean, he brought his whole uffle bag.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
He was like, no, you can hire somebody who can't skape,
but you could hire me and I can.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Like tear it up out there. I am like the
legit real thing, like I there's no one better for
this job than.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Me, and I love that. And kid actors are so
fearless like that. You know, child actors, you go in,
you don't you don't worry about boasting or you know,
you you want to convince them why you are the
best for the job.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Yeah, you just throw down. Love that. Thank you for
joining us.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
If you want to follow us, of course, you can
follow us at Magical rewind Pod on the Instagram machine
and that is where you'll find out whatever we're watching next,
so you can go and watch it with us and
make sure that you're caught up because these movies are
pretty great anyway, this next time. Thank you everybody, and
thanks to Sam for stopping bye because that was really
really cool and we will see you next time.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Bye bye.
Welcome to another park Hopper episode, and we are going
back to something that again I got some ish for
on the on the old Instagram and Internet machine because
by and I will well, I'm gonna watch it. I'm
gonna watch it again because people did not love that.
I did not absolutely love Brink. Uh, so I gotta
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go back and watch.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
But because you're wrong, that's also absolutely possible.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
You're wrong.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I am wrong more often than I'm right. Just ask
everyone in my life.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
But no.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
One of the people we got to talk to, though,
which was so much fun, was Christina Vidal and interview.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
This couldn't have been nicer.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
She's running around with her family in the car at
the time, which is like the coolest thing in the world. Yes,
but there's one person that we got asked over and
over and over again to get and so while we
normally wouldn't do a second park Opper episode on on
one movie, we had to because we have the opportunity
today to talk to him.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
He played val for.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
The bad guy, the bad guy, the villain, the villain
of Brink with the great with arguably some of the
greatest hair, certainly some of the greatest skating, which we
want to get into Yes, but we are very lucky
today on our park Opper episode to be joined by
the one and only Sam Horrigan.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
How are you guys?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Welcome?
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Wow, how's it going?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You have certainly one of the coolest zoom areas we've
seen of anybody.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I put a lot of effort into it. Things were
moved around just for you, guys. That's how important this
is for me.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Looks so good.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Well, welcome. We're so glad you.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Could be here.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
We got asked over and over and over again to
bring you on again.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Everyone needed to get an interview everyone. The nostalgia would
Brink is just epic. People were instantly you gotta do Brink,
you gotta do Brink. So we did, and then it's
you gotta get Sam.
Speaker 7 (02:30):
We need to talk tobou spoken They did, do you
Now there's been with what Sabrino saying, there's been this
enormous resurgence of Brink in the last few years.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Have you felt this?
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Yeah? I get messages at like three am in the morning.
Sometimes they'll play it late night and people will be
reaching out to me like, oh, we just got back
from the bar and we're all watching Brink and then
people have actually who used to skate when the movie
came out, they stopped, they became parents, and then now
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they're back skating again. Yes, that's like there is a
crazy resurgence of just skating in general of rollerblading.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Is there really? I didn't know?
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I would go as far as Sade Usher must have
been a rollerblader back in his day, because he brought
us to the super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I'm going to take a little bit of credit for
the super Bowl halftime, so because I feel like I
might have been a little bit of inspiration me and
the rest of the coast just saying.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I had to have been a Brink fan, had Tom
There's just no way around it.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
If we do a Brink too, we'll have maybe it'll
be a musical.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah right, probably would be for Disney, I can tell
you that for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So do you remember we we'd love to kind of
start with do you remember the first time you heard
about Brink?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Did you What was the audition process like where you
offered the role? What happened?
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Okay, so the audition came through like any other audition,
But the second I saw it, I just had to
have it. So when I started acting was when I
was about ten, and when I was ten, at about
the exact same time, I started rollerblading too. Wow, when
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I wasn't acting, I was rollerblading, okay, to the point
where when I did Grace under Fire, I was not
contractually supposed to roller blade at all, and I ended
up breaking my rib cage. Oh no, no, I had
to play it off like I was fine. We got
through the week. But it was a rough one.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Oh my, so were you like in full of like
bandage rib cage pulled together?
Speaker 5 (04:45):
It was nothing you can really do for your ribs.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
No, but you just have.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
To take short breaths because like I had splintered bone
that my lungs were expanding against.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
That was probably thirteen and a half, maybe a couple
of years before Brink.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
All right, well wait if we're talking a couple of
years before Brink. So you did Boy Meets World before
you did Brink.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Right, Boy Meets World was my first like real acting job.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yes, yes, Oh that's so cool.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
You guys sent me off. You guys gave me the
wind of my sales that I needed to continue forward.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Do you know you were also inarguably the most famous,
most popular, most important episode of Boy Meets World ever.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
That's true because that's the first episode the penga.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, that's the first ever episode. Is you being again?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Kind of you seem to be cast, especially when you're younger,
as kind.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Of the bully, jerk guy. Why where did that come from?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Always was that kind of a thing, as you were
always cast as the bad kid.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
You were good at it, I guess.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
I love it, yeah, because I feel so. I feel
like the bad guys have all these different like dimensions
to him, and it's so fun to play the bad guy. Yeah.
When it comes to Val, I think that's the reason
why people take to him so much is because he
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just loved being bad. Yeah. He just took so much
to light in driving them crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Oh he was fearless and you were so confident. You
were so confident. I think that part of your character
was really appealing.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Is because we talked about between you and Eric, it
was kind of this. You know, you were either a
Val or a brink like girl like as the girl fans, right.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
I think most people were Brits.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
They were either like they loved the bad guy or
they liked the like squeaky clean brink. He hadn't had
to choose, right, could like both of us?
Speaker 5 (06:58):
True, maybe they love to hate me sure later in life. Yes,
I think there's some fans that now are like more
on the side of X blades, But I kind of
was was definitely the winner when it came to the
like Bop magazine fan base.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah that I mean, in all honesty, your character did
almost try to kill.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yes, almost almost tried tried to kill a girl on
the Disney Channel, with no remorse whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
At the end of the movie, even after it got
like blown up, you were like, yeah, I did it.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Yeah, whatever, just rides off to come back again unexpectedly
at any given time. Hasn't learned anything from the entire experience.
That's so great.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Okay, So the audition comes through like any other. We
talked to Christina who said that she had to rollerblade
for the audition.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Did you have to rollerblade for the audition as well?
Speaker 5 (07:57):
So the first audition, so there were multiple auditions. Obviously
they paired us up. They tried to figure out if
it would work. But the first audition just going in
was was no skating required. But I came in with
my skating double bag. So I had my skates that
were obviously used. They were all like busted up roller
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blades that I would skate and have to like I'd
break off the wheels or the bearings would break and
I'd have to like engineer him back together. So I
showed him. I was like, I can do that, real skater.
I could. I could do the acting and I can
skate too, Like, you guys have gotta hire me for this.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
You gotta give me this, you gotta give you this.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
But still I wasn't really sure what was going to happen, right,
And so when it came to matching up, I walk
in and Eric vont Detten's in there, and I had
already done a movie opposite Eric, Escape Twitch Mountain. Yeah,
I knew that we played well. Isn't he the bad
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guy in him as the rob? And so when I
saw him, I was like, let's do this, baby.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Oh man?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
So okay, So did they pair you up the first
day you were there or was it just single stuff
the first day?
Speaker 5 (09:19):
No, first day it was just straight normal read with
the casting director. And then I think this, I think
it was the second audition was the one where they
brought in Eric and then we did a table read after.
It's amazing. I mean, the fan base in the movie.
I don't think there's enough credit that goes to how
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well it was cast and how amazing the crew was,
and how awesome the locations were beautiful. I mean it's
like Miami Vice.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it really was.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
It was great, even the the graffiti and everything, the
just how bright the skate parks were, then the ocean
behind it, just everything pops on screen.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Was that now?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Christina said she never got a chance to shoot in Washington.
Did you go to Washington?
Speaker 5 (10:13):
We went to Washington?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Apparently some of it says some of it. If you
look on the internet machine, it says some of it
was shot in Washington, Washington State.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
It's wild. I wonder what that was.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I wonder if there was any It was maybe b.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Rolls straight along the shore, every beach you can think of,
and most of those skate parks were built from scratch
for the movie. Yes, oh yeah, yeah. So like the
pit remember in the open end like scene where like
x Blades comes in. Ye, there was a real there
was the real Venice Beach pit from the movie. What
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was it Oh, it's with Roland Brashing. I haven't seen it.
It is It is such a good movie.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yes, the rations like air was even before Airborne, wasn't it.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Yes, yes, okay, genre type of film, yeah, yes. And
so there's they had the real pit, which is like
a spot where everybody could graffiti, but ours they actually
built from scratch and just made it amazing.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Did you guys get a lot of time to just
kind of play around in there during filming?
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Are you somebody one of the actors would get injured, right,
So they would tell us like, you need to wear
all of your pads. You need to wear helmet and
elbow pads, riskards, all that stuff, and don't skate unless
you have to, okay, And so we would get a
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little bit in like here and there, and then because
I could skate, they would allow me to, Like if
I had a trick that I thought that I could,
you know, pull off, they would allow me to do it,
and they'd shoot that, and then they would go to
the stunt double and they would say, Okay, now you
do that, and he'd be like, I don't do that trick.
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That's not the way that it works. Like everybody skates differently. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
So one of the things we loved about the movie
was the fact that you couldn't They shot it in
such a way where there's a lot of times you
could not tell the difference between the stunt double and
the people that were.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Right the actors.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
It was unreal.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
It looked like, look you guys, I mean, well, I
know that you did quite a bit of it because
you were at a professional.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Skater level at what fifteen is when you kind of
when you.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Were you a pro skater or close to it.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
I technically I was pro, I guess because of the movie,
Like that's where the pro title kind of came from.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Okay, and you were doing a lot of your own skating.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Yeah, I do most of the stuff. Yeah, did you really?
There was I did a lot of Like my thing
was street skating, and so the street skate, like the downhill,
that's me.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
You're doing the downhill.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Man, you're kidding me. You are going down that downhill,
it's you.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
It was crazy. So the first time we go to
the actual downhill area is the scene where we're up
by the Victory bell and or Korean bell. I can't
remember the exact name, but that amazing area. And so
I go to Brink right and I tell him there's
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a turn just before Kenner stand the outside, and then
I skate off kind of backwards, just kind of like
giving this like evil look, right, and then I make
this cut, this like abrupt cut, and then and then
the camera you know, changes to close up of Frodi Gabriella.
(13:56):
So that cut that I made was because I had
not gone down that hill yet and it was terrifying.
It just drops off. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
It definitely looks that way.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
But after that I did Jake Elliot, one of the
stunt doubles, was like, let's do this, and so I
went down with him, and then after that I did
all the other takes and it was invigorating.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
That is awesome.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Did you know a lot of the stunt guys from
just your regular skating life?
Speaker 5 (14:33):
I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean I was like geeking
out on the pros that we had on there because
these were the guys that I idolized as as a skater,
and and so I had grown up with all of them,
and so when Airborne came out, that was when I
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started skating like that is that was the start of
all of us, like me and my group skating. Yeah,
and then Brink was like the second movie that they
got to be a part of, which was Yes, it
was so cool. I had so much fun and I
actually got so much better as a skater shooting the
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movie and spending the time with the pros.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Okay, oh, I guess that makes sense because they're showing you.
I mean it's like you're trying, You're doing their tricks,
they're doing your tricks, all that kind of stuff, Right.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
You see what's possible. Yeah. Once you see somebody else
do the trick that you thought was impossible, all of
a sudden you realize that maybe it's possible for you too.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
And then that's why like backflip and motocross impossible. Nobody
can do it. One person does it, and then like
by the next year, there's like fifty people that could
do the trick already. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
So you talked about fracturing your ribs while you were
doing Grace Underfire?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
So Christina told us that she actually got hurt while filming.
She slammed her tailbone.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Down when she was dropping in when she was doing.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
A dropping definitely happened. Yeah, did you get hurt?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
It all while well filming the movie.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
So the pink ramp in the in the semi final yeah, okay,
where Brin comes in with his shades on.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, when you didn't recognize him because he got the
shed look.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
But it come with some skating attached. So that pink ramp.
It was metal, and I was not used to skating
on metal ramp. And then the fact that it was
painted it like the wheels stuck to it. So when
I first the day before, I came to just kind
of test out the ramp, and I couldn't do huge
tricks on half pipes. We had a half pipe that
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was in like the closest big city that I would
get to like here and there, so I could I
could drop in, I could do some jumps, I could
do a little bit of grinding. But I wasn't the
guy doing all the flips in the movie. And so
I went to see how much air I could get,
and as I went to jump up, I actually jumped
out straight down. But luckily, I mean, if you skate,
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you it's like if you were a w W wrestler
like you, you have to know how to fall, so
luckily no brakes or anything like that. I did sunburn
my eyes because I was like Casper, the friendly ghost
in the movie, and we shot outside in the sun
every day. I guess the biggest injury I had.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
You burned your eyes?
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Yes, yeah, they were putting like like I dropped in
them all the time. They were like.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Super I've never heard of that. I never heard of that.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
What's amazing is the fact that we shot the entire
movie outside and I never got any color whatsoever. And
then Eric like phenomenal, Tan, don't.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
You love people like that? It's just like, how are
you constantly Tan?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
One of the questions we get asked a lot is
the worm sandwich?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Okay, I was just gonna oh, yes, I almost puked.
I literally almost puked watching that again. I don't remember
it being so realistic and disgusting. What was that like?
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Well, because puke?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
If I had to act that out as a.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
As a fifteen year old kid shooting a movie and
seeing that in the script, I will honestly tell you
I was a little concerned with whether or not I
was actually going to be getting real worms. Yeah, you
never know, Like, how big is the budget? On this stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Just give them worms, He'll be fine.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
So we used uh, they were like fishing worms. So
they were like these giant rubbery kind of like rubber
band type of things. And but that shot in the
film is one continuous shot. It's incredible where there's real
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worms on the sandwich, Gabrielle picks it up, walks around,
and all of a sudden it's swapped out with the
other one, same continuous shot. So cool.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Oh wow, that is cool.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Thank you, Thank god that they swapped it out in time,
because you could have that could have been a really
bad day.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Yeah, it would have been an entirely different film.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Oh that's so funny. The other thing we get asked
about quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
That's something we have to address because I had this
in the nineties as well.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Phenomenal hair in this movie.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Just the hair.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Top was your hair hair routine to keep the middle
part bad guy haircut alive.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
So my hair was much longer when I got the job.
I may actually cut it shorter.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
For the movie. I was like a skater rocker kid.
I mean yeah, they were trying to like cast me
for like rock star movies and stuff like that. At
that time.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
So it was like, really, it was just it was
my hair.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
It was just I didn't do anything to it at all.
Just I always wore a backwards hat. That's just that
was my look.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Yes, oh, I love that so much.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
One thing that I would And I bring this up
because this is a claim the fame of my life
that took place in the movie that is probably completely
unnoticeable to anyone else but me.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
These are the best.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
So after Brink organizes, me and the rest of my
team getting beaten up by the adults, weird, weird, And
then the first day a school, I come back and
I take Gabrielle's shoes and tuck them over there. I
lobbed those shoes up and get them on the wire.
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I actually threw those on that wire.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Did you really?
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yes? Yeh.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Take.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
So this is the thing they like. Before we showed
up on set, the crew was there with the director
and everybody. They were trying to get an actual shot
of the shoes flying from ground level up there, and
they just weren't going to show the actual person who
threw them. And they kept trying, and they kept trying,
and everybody was all the grips were coming up to
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be like, I can do it, you know I can
do that. Nobody could get it. So what they do
is they put a crew member up on a crane
and he had a pair of shoes and they had
the camera shot go down. And so they come up
to me and they're like, listen, it's impossible, like nobody,
nobody can get that up there. Just throw it up
as high as you can and then he's gonna drop
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the shoes into the shot on the wire.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
And so I just take the shoes and I lobb
it up there and it hits. And it took everything
in me not to just or even like it was
someone who cuts out of the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
That's I gotta go back and watch that seat together.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
If here ain't those things, And it's like, now I
got to go back and now I just have to
watch your face to see like that.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I think that's so funny. When is the when's the
last time you watched the movie?
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Oh? Man? Really say last year? I watched it? Okay,
Oh yeah, it brings back so many good memories. I mean,
I had it was it was crazy, like I am
so thankful to be a part of this movie. If
I was not an actor in it, I would be
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just as much of a huge fan of it. And
I do feel like the characters were so awesome, The
storyline was so awesome, the directing and the locations were
so cool that if they would have put another actor
playing Vow, it would have been awesome. The fact that
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I got the opportunity to be val is just it's
so cool.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Oh oh man, I have to go back and watch again.
I know people got mad at me because I'd never
seen it before. Wait, I had that wasn't little because
I was a little older, So I like, you know,
by the time Brink came out, I was like twenty,
so I wasn't watching dcon and so I watched it.
I watched it twice and I came in and I
was like, here are my criticisms. And people went nuts.
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They're like, don't criticize Brink.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
I'm darious.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
They did not like it. I'm like, I'll watch again.
I'll watch again. Oh it was so funny.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Oh man, You've got some loyal fans out there. They
also really loved you in talking about little Giants.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Most people do not put two and two together. Really,
that bow is also Spike.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
How do they not really, they don't.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Like people's mind get blown when they figure out that
that I'm I'm one and the same actor. Now what's
wild is Joey Simmeren, who is Worm according to Gabriella
on X Blades, is also on The Cowboys and Little Giants. Oh,
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he's also my like's secondhand.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Like, fine, it's such a sinner.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Which film did you have more fun doing? I know
it's tough, but I mean your rollerblading, So I figure because.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
That's here, I would say that because of the overlap
with the skating brink.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, two of your loves combinding.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Every acting job I've ever done was a dream come true.
Boy meets world dream come true. But Brink has this
like special place in my art.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Yeah, I can see that bow is still.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
In my being. Yes, I did a cameo last week,
and they asked me to just like kind of pull
upon val because this was a cameo someone was purchasing
for a friend who purchased them a cameo from brink
eron and so I came in like with full roast
(25:49):
level one hundred. Oh. Very offended by the fact that
Brink was called upon for the first cameo, so I
made my presence known as well. That awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
So all of the kind of jerk characters you've played,
where does Val rank?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Top five?
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Vowel m hm. I mean, so I've played a guy
that In One Tree Hill, we kidnapped the two main
characters who we were from a rival school, and they
beat us. So we kidnapped them, stripped them down to
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their boxers, and then left them in the middle of nowhere.
So that was pretty rough. Yeah, Spike definitely had serious,
serious like our Yeah, he could be very bad. He
would probably be ranked up there with like a young
Mike Tyson maybe oh okay, wow and uh, but Val
(27:01):
would be the topper. Yeah. He almost killed the girl
on the Disney Channel, no remorse whatsoever. Now in his defense,
in VAL's defense, I would say that Brink was really
(27:21):
instigating a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
So you're saying, if you watch Karate Kid again, it's
actually Daniel's fault.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I keep thinking the same thing I keep thinking about
because it was the same that kid had no remorse either,
got his leg.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Off and not kidding me, he called upon a bunch
of adults to beat us up because we took over
the skating area. He sent me a bunch of worms
that obviously could have killed me. That could have been fatal.
Nobody knows, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
In all fairness, when you when you first rolled into
the skate park, the first thing you did was knock
him down.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
That's true. Well, I distracted him a little in a way,
you know, a comedic like nobody messing with your friends.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
You know, I'm glad you're here. Here's the page.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
We were friends, but apparently we weren't. Now.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Could you ever see because because at the end of
the day you got the same passions.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Could you see a world where Val and Gabriella end
up together?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
There's no chance?
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (28:37):
I mean that was very charming.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
So yeah, that would be that would result in a
really really bad reality.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Storyline.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Or would Gabriel eventually say, hey, Brink, you're a nice guy.
Soul skating is making you no money, whereas is now
the captain of X Blades and making several thousand dollars
a year doing what I love.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
It's really nice to see you, Bronc. It's Brank. Whatever
do you I mean? I see a possibility of that happening?
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Come on? I always like to think about like where
everybody would be. Now, I was just gonna they stayed
upon the same course in life, and I don't know
where the soul Skaters would be. I would worry about them.
They would be struggling.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Where's val val Will probably.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Would have avenged himself against Jimmy. Yeah, he probably would
have found a way to eat, to take over Team
X Blades, or to create another company that would destroy
Team X Blades. And then I think that he would
probably make sure that he got the final word and
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the last laugh with the soul Skaters law.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I think so che sinister dun dund dum.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
All Right, what was because I know we're gonna we
could talk Brink all day, because I want to talk
about Brink all day. But you got to work with
some pretty incredible people throughout your career, and there's one
specifically who is just a legend that I want to
talk a little bit about.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
What was it like Working with Rick moranis awesome?
Speaker 5 (30:24):
That was another one where totally starstruck. Honey, I shrunk
the kids. I mean, like like Blockbuster, one of the
coolest movies ever. You know, working with him was phenomenal.
I didn't have a whole lot of scenes directly with him.
(30:45):
We were in the scene together, right, but when the
time that I did spend he was obviously like a
guy who wore his heart on his sleeve. Awesome. He
was going through so much while we were shooting that movie,
which many of us knew, right, and the fact that
he could even continue through and finish the movie was amazing.
(31:10):
And the way that he stepped out of Hollywood to
step up as the father of his house after everything
that happened is extremely commendable and hopefully I would love
to see him back of me the best.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
That's what I say.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
It's like, did you did he ever feel like he
was a coach? Like you kind of looked up to him?
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Or well, I mean no, because I was on the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
So you know, I was just wondering if he's still
just because he's there.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
You know, Ed O'Neill was my coach.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Ed O'Neill would always feel like a coach, would never
it never felt.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Right when I was on The Little Giants?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
What did Evil? What was that O'Neill like?
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Because that O'Neil was is a classically trained yes stage
actor who then has the people are like Oh no.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
He started on Marriti Children like No. I remember seeing
he was at the Hartford stage.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Watch him on Miami Vice.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Oh really, have you ever seen No.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
What Miami Weis? Episode? Now you will have a newfound
higher respect for him as an actor. He is incredible
in that he ends up getting killed in it. It's crazy.
He's like an undercover agent that gets caught up in
it all and lost in it and then I can't
(32:36):
wait to see this one back out and then he
ends up dying at the end. Wow, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
He's one of those actors where people he was like
a Leslie Nielsen, where people know him as being funny,
and then you go back and go like.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
No, this was a classically trained actor. I mean these
are stage actors.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
That he could have gone any which way.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
That's what made them so good, and he was He
would have.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Been successful whichever direction they went, absolutely and he was.
He was great. I mean again, not a whole lot.
I mean we did our scenes together, which was phenomenal, awesome,
but then there were times where we actually got to
kind of like chit chat and that was the best. Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
You mentioned Brink two, so you get the script for
Brink two tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
What is the ideal script for you? What is Brink two?
Pitch us? Brink took too?
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Yes, I would imagine that. Obviously, now everybody's older, there's
probably a resurgence in skating and that's where their past
cross once again.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Oh do you think it'd be their kids going at it?
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Or would they?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
And they're like the head of the team.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Can you still rollerblade? Do you still rollerblade?
Speaker 5 (34:09):
I can do you. I don't fall like I used to,
None of us do. So I this middle finger left hand.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
The last time I was skating, well like aggressive skating
was about two years ago, and I was at a
skate park and I was just kind of like getting
back into it and getting my like you know, sea.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Legs, your sea legs back.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
And so there was a ledge that I was going
to grind and it was a curved one, which is
you know, we didn't have a lot of those back
in the day, And so I was going out a
little bit and then finally I was like, okay, I'm
going to like hit it one more time, go for
this completely commit. I'm like I'm probably gonna get hurt,
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but that's not a big deal, like you have to
accept that before you start skating. But I gauge shit
a little wrong. Instantly new that I broke the finger,
which was fine, but me and my overconfident old school
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skating self, I just put a splint on it and
didn't even go to the doctor. And it's the joint together,
so I needed to get a surgery so that I
could move it again. Oh yeah, So that's probably my
worst injury, which was like from doing the simplest thing.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Ever, that's always the way it works.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
I never felt more like a soul skater.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
You hurt yourself for freak like the soul skaters.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Did I know how Gabrielle and the rivalry continues, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You're you're reaping what you sew for somebody going in
like I'll take him out and just putting something on
the on the grinding thing.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
Is it a rail that somebody could have? Maybe it
was brink. I didn't even think about that, is it?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Maybe you didn't see it?
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Eric out of nowhere, Gabriella is hiding behind a tree,
throws some rocks out there. Just taking me.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Out got you back? Speaking of which, do you talk
to anybody from the film anymore.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Periodically, I'll talk to so man. It was it was
such a bummer because Eric invited me to his fortieth
birthday party. Oh man, I was so excited to go,
and but then I got a East coast event that
that conflicted and so I uh, and then we did
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we did like a kind of like a reunion type
of thing, just through like a video call. But that's
that's it so far.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Oh my, everything is coming back and Brink is one
of those things.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
I don't know if you're aware of this, but they
did a we talked about this.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
In the in the pod when we were rewatching it
for the first time. They did a list of where
people rank these movies.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, and Brink was number one.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
This was not that long ago.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
This was not a small publication.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
It was like they ranked all of the dcoms of
all time and Brink was number one.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Yeah, it's definitely it's it's got a cult following and
it's one of those movies that if you're if you
don't know, like it, like it always feels good to
watch it. Yeah for me, like like those so my
my like number one all time favorite movie. Back to
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the Future first.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
One great movie perfect movie.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Any day I can put that on. I'm gonna love it.
I'm gonna enjoy it. Know all the lines, I know
exactly what's gonna happen when it happens, and and every
time it's phenomenal. Yeah, and Brink is similar to that.
It reminds us of this, like this time in film,
like the nineties classic film, and just the style of it,
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and the characters and the good guys are super good
and the bad guys are super bad, and and you know, somehow,
somehow the good guy's gonna win, somehow, the bad guy's
gonna he's gonna learn a lesson, not with Val, but
no learning that Val.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
But the skating is so good too, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
And I think for the young generation of that time,
it's awesome to look back and go, man, I just
remember thinking, you know.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Foul was so cool, he was so good. And same
with Brink, like just you got again.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
The way they were able to edit to where it
literally looks like the entire cast that's rollerblading is doing
it the whole time. It does not look obvious. We've
watched other movies where it is obvious.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
There was no CGI back then. We didn't have any of.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
That, and it makes a difference in the movie. Is
it's wholesome.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
It's got such a great you know, a great message,
and you know, beyond that.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
It's like, it's got great hair. And that's what the
girls want. They wanted a lot of hair and the
hair with.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
A lot of hair and a lot of cute boys.
That's what they got.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
That could be us the plot line too, you know,
but we have competing hair salons.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
They've done that. I think, what are you doing now?
And where can people find you?
Speaker 5 (39:39):
Me? Well, I do a lot of charity type of
work with a church and teach kindergartener's Sunday school. Wow,
the Pokemon pictures.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
And sorry, well from Brink is a Sunday school teacher.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Right, that might be the best thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Love that every single person's redeemable. Apparently that would.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Have to be in the second Brink movie. That would
have to be part that all.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
From Brink is a Sunday school teacher. How do we
not leave it there? Thank you so much for joining us,
and uh hopefully you'll be back for Brink two. This
time it's personal.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
Thanks you guys, Thank you. I have a great day too.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I love meeting people that are we talk about this
on Podmet's World because we all had so much fun
doing the show. I love meeting people that did something
that mattered to other people, but it so mattered to
them too, having so much fun doing it, and they
love talking about it and being involved in it. And
(40:49):
so when you see his face light up when he's
talking about Brink, yes, that was really cool.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
And to know, I mean again, it meant so much
to him because I remember that with the Cheetah Girls
and things that you get to collaborate multiple loves like
his love for rollerblading and the sport, and then he
gets to do that in a role acting like you know,
(41:14):
he went to that audition.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
I mean, he brought his whole uffle bag.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
He was like, no, you can hire somebody who can't skape,
but you could hire me and I can.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Like tear it up out there. I am like the
legit real thing, like I there's no one better for
this job than.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Me, and I love that. And kid actors are so
fearless like that. You know, child actors, you go in,
you don't you don't worry about boasting or you know,
you you want to convince them why you are the
best for the job.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Yeah, you just throw down. Love that. Thank you for
joining us.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
If you want to follow us, of course, you can
follow us at Magical rewind Pod on the Instagram machine
and that is where you'll find out whatever we're watching next,
so you can go and watch it with us and
make sure that you're caught up because these movies are
pretty great anyway, this next time. Thank you everybody, and
thanks to Sam for stopping bye because that was really
really cool and we will see you next time.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Bye bye.
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Will Friedle
Sabrina Bryan
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