The Lizzie McGuire Movie

This is what dreams are made of! Will and Sabrina are watching “The Lizzie McGuire Movie” starring Hilary Duff, Adam Lamberg and Yani Gellman. 

This film premiered in 2003 as a theatrical based on the Disney Channel show “Lizzie McGuire."

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Sabrina. Even I've heard of the movie we're doing today.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean what does.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
That tell you. I mean, there's not many, but I've
heard of this one because you know, I think even
if you didn't watch Dizzy Channel at the time, which
I didn't, and you didn't watch the show this was
based on, which of course I didn't, everybody heard this name.
It was just in the zeitgeist everywhere.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I mean absolutely, this was I feel like the platform
that was a good foundation that then helped when the
Cheetah Girls came out, and then even more when Miley
Cyrus and Hannah Montana came out.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
So Miley Cyrus and Hannah Montana were after this.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yes, it was basically on the channel. It was Lizzie McGuire,
that's so raven, then Hannah Montana.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Okay, gotcha. I didn't know the order was.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
There kind of their bright new shiny star that was
happening as it was. I think they had filmed the
first the first season, or they were in depths of
filming it before we even did the first Cheetah Girls,
So it kind of really like we stacked on top
of that so raven and then you know it was
kind of like a stacking thing. And then after that

(01:32):
when we went for our second movie at the upfront
is when they were releasing Hannah Montana and that was gotcha.
It's everything that they did with Lizzie McGuire, boom on
the next level, like five levels up.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, that makes sense because I didn't know which order
they came in. Okay, so Lizzy McGuire was the og. Gotcha. Well,
obviously we were talking about the Lizzie McGuire movie. There's
no get around that. So first though, welcome back to
Magical Rewind, the show that makes you want to grab
your friends, your pj's, and your popcorn and go back
to a time when all the houses were smart, the waves,
tsunamis and double Team still sucked. I'm Wilfredell.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
And I'm Sabriena Brian.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
That was for one of our producers because we just
got into another double teamed conversation. Anyway, people this time
were going all the way to Rome kind of with
one of Disney's most memorable characters. It's a movie that
found itself with a newly minted cult status in the
twenty twenties. That's right, we're talking about two thousand and
threes cinematic finale to the channel's Lizzie McGuire series, which

(02:32):
is creatively titled The Lizzie McGuire Movie. There you go,
So did you? Sorry, we're just kidding. Alrighty, we're already
getting We just got from one of our producers in
the comments there was absolutely nothing wrong with this movie. Nothing.
I beg to differ, and we'll get into it. But, Sabrina,

(02:55):
did you watch the original TV show? You did? Didn't you?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I did? This was when? So two thousand and three
was the finale of this show, right, they had two
very long I guess what we found out recently, two
very long seasons.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
And technically three years.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
It hits the sixty five episode ark. But so that's
interesting to find out. But so, you know, you're talking
like three years of it, and these were the three
years that I was like hardcore auditioning and auditioning and auditioning. Okay,
damn TV shows on the channel, these.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Freaking did you ever audition for Lizzie Maguire?

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I bet you, because I was on the Jersey. I
know I auditioned for Jet Jackson, and I know I
ad I probably did because I'm telling you any kind
anytime there was like a role for somebody who could
look you know that fourteen ish, and that's what I
looked that I got. I was lucky enough to get
an audition, so I'm sure I did. They kind of

(03:57):
all meshed together at this point, but I was watching
the channel because I was like kind of studying it,
you know, like what do I need to do?

Speaker 1 (04:05):
What?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Even just to the point of wanting to see what
they wear, so that when I went into an audition,
I looked like a Disney kid, you know. So I
was watching Lizzie McGuire a lot, and I thought Hillary
Duff was thebomb dot com. Like, I loved her. I
thought she was so cute. She was for me, the

(04:25):
first one that I show saw on the channel that
was kind of pushing more fashionable choices that like with
her hair, just very old like end of nineties style
with her hair early two thousands like she was. She
was a cool kid, even though she was like playing younger.
So yeah, and then I followed her career as she

(04:47):
really took off into being an app star and star
and all of that, Like I followed that career, and yeah,
she was I loved.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Hillary Duff, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Knock knock, who's there? Will?

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah? I never watched the show.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, but you did know because you could not.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
You could just know, like Canna Montana or any of
those kind of names, like Lizzie mcgre Everyone knew the
name Lizzy McGuire if you didn't know the show. Everyone
knew the name Hannah Montana if you didn't know the show.
These these were everyone knew, high school musical, the Cheetah Girls.
These are things that they popped off of the Disney
Channel into just mainstay pop culture. Now I never knew
what they exactly were, but of course everybody knew the

(05:28):
names like Lizzie McGuire and stuff like that. And now
we talked about this when we recapped the Even Stevens movie.
But it was a common move for Disney to pay
for only two or three seasons of a show. We
talked about that the sixty five and out rule, saving
them the required bumps for producers and talent. But then
they'd green led a movie to wrap up the story
on the way out and pay totally different contracts. Lizzy
McGuire the TV show only ran again technically two seasons,

(05:49):
but that meant sixty five episodes, if you can believe it.
They did a lot of shooting in two years now.
We'll talk about this more in detail later, but the
show was obviously a vehicle for Hillary Duff, one of
the biggest young stars the Channel had in the early oughts,
a double threat in acting and music and was completely
homegrown this She was like a Disney Channel star, one
of the originals. So the Cheetah Girls Lizybiguire timeline seems

(06:13):
to have been going on at the same time, right
around that time you said you were a fan. Did
you get to know her at all or no?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know, I ran into her sister more often. So
another thing that I don't know if you are aware
of or not, but like her and her sister somewhat
teamed up to do some of the music and things
like that. Right, So her sister would end up being
on either set hanging out with someone like I think
she for some reason in my head, I feel like

(06:42):
she was on like when we did The Sweet Life
of Zach and Cody or something. But she would be
around the Channel doing certain things with the.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Channel when I and that's Haley, right, it's Hailey Duff, Yeah, gotcha.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Okay, and Hillary by the time, like I said, we
filmed our movie in two thousand and two October or
the movie came out in two thousand and three, so
like by then, Hillary Duff was like a megastar al right,
So she was already off, I swear I think at
that point she was already booked a big arena tour
and was doing like shows, And she was already off

(07:15):
doing big, big things, not necessarily around the channel any longer, right, she.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Was already breaking away. She was one of the first
kind of big Disney Channel stars to break away, and yes, yeah, yeah,
okay cool. Well, Duff was obviously the titular character who
learns how to navigate personal and social issues common of
our teenage years, which is rather vague and kind of
the premise of every Disney show ever. But the big
difference is we also get animated soliloquies of Lizzie to

(07:41):
express the characters in her thoughts and emotions, little breaks
of a more outgoing version of herself while she was
more reserved and nervous in real life. Again, I think
I knew that they were gonna do little animated stuff too,
did you know going in that the animated stuff was
all part.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
I wasn't sure. I couldn't. I don't think I actually
watched the no because I remember when she came out,
I was I recognized that outfit, but the you know,
I recognized outfit. I remember the finale outfit, thinking that
outfit was like a really cool Disney outfit and she
was showing her stomach and I knew that was a
big no no on the channel. So I didn't remember

(08:18):
if her cartoon character part like because that was what
her like her subconscience.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, it's supposed to be like that. Yeah, it's supposed
to because.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I didn't know if that. I didn't remember if that
was in the movie. But I definitely one of my favorite.
It was my favorite part of the show. I thought
that was my I loved when that cartoon would come
out and do her like over the top, you know,
so so embarrassed, so scared, you know. I loved that
that was the comedy part of it.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
That I that's cool. The movie was released on May second,
two thousand and three, in movie theaters. Yes, in movie theaters.
That's obviously the biggest difference between this movie and other
d coms. It was actually the first movie made from
a Disney Channel series to go into theaters. Huh. Plus,
it came in at number two at the box office
sort's opening weekend with seventeen point three million dollars, trailing

(09:02):
only X two, the X Men sequel. It eventually raked
in fifty five point five million worldwide, which is amazing
because the movie only cost thirteen million bucks. So whoa
people say, only a lot in Hollywood, but thirteen million
dollar movie not a huge budget movie. To rake in
fifty five point five million, it's a big win for
the channelblute and as if that wasn't enough, it was

(09:25):
released on DVD and Wait for Kids vhs Look it
Up in August of the same year and sold two
point nine million copies, given the studio another fifty million
dollars in revenue. Duff also won both a Kids Choice
Award and eighteen Choice Award. Not that now all this
sounds incredible, right A movie awards tons of money, yet
there is a lot of story left to tell because

(09:47):
only two seasons aired, so again a lot left to
on the table there. Well, anyway, Disney thought the same
thing because in twenty nineteen they decided to get the
gang back together for new Lizzie MacGuire series with Hillary
Duff and put a sequel film in motion, but infamously,
the studio shelled the entire thing even after starting production,
for reasons that are still kind of a mystery. We

(10:08):
might have solved some of them, but it's kind of
a mystery. Supposedly, Disney had created differences with Duff and
the showrunner, who were looking to go in a more
adult direction. In turn, Disney pulled the plug, a rare
occurrence considering they were in the middle of making it,
which is nuts. And all this decision did was make
the cult audience even hungrier for more Lizzie McGuire content.
We've heard several things. It was going to be on

(10:29):
Hulu originally, so they're going to make it more adult
than Disney. Plus was being built at the time. They
were going to go more kid so you never know
what's happening or want to see how the sausage is made.
But unfortunately for the sausage makers, no, Lizzy McGuire.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
This is a no go.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Had you seen this movie? I know you've seen the show,
but did you see the movie? Were you one of
the people who went and saw it in the theater.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
No, there, I definitely did not see it in the theater.
I know I did not do that, but I feel like.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
No, I didn't do that.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I know I didn't do that. I do remember seeing
it somewhere, So I don't know if they ended up
airing it ever on the channel, and that would have
been a place.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Or probably did eventually.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, so I know that I've seen I've seen it,
but or if it was just seeing like commercials for it,
I recognized it, but you know, I didn't. I didn't
really remember. I think if I had seen it when
I was in Italy at all these places that it
looked like they were filming, I would have that would
have sparked more of a memory. Yeah, that makes sense,

(11:27):
and the fact that I didn't, I don't think I
saw the whole thing I remember specifically, though. You know
what I bet it is they probably showed her final
performance on the channel as like a music videos.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
That's certainly possible.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
That is that I felt like I remember the front
to back.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, I knew that. I don't know. I have no idea. Again,
my guess I heard that there was a Lizzie McGuire
movie because I don't know. I mean, you assume there
is one, especially after they did like the Even Stevens movie.
I guess I probably assume there was one, but no,
I didn't know anything about it.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Oh. I feel like that even Stephen One was wasn't
that after this one?

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Though I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
I can't remember with a timeline of that either. I know.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Anyway, it's synopsis time, people, so let's scoop yourself a
bowl of gelato and get into it. Shy kid Lizzy
McGuire travels to Rome on a school trip and is
mistaken for an Italian pop star, leading to a worldwin
adventure of music, fashion, and self discovery. So this is
a little like accidental Handah Montana. This seemed like. That's
why I was asking asking which one happened first, because

(12:33):
I didn't understand if this came first or Hanna, because
I was like, it's kind of the same premise, but
this came first.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
So yes, way years before, okay before.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Well, they obviously liked it because then they made a
whole show basically around it. Right. The Lizzie McGuire movie
was directed by Jim Fall, which is a new name
to us, and this was his only dcom. He first
got attention for his nineteen ninety nine movie Trick, a
sundance standout about a gay relationship that unfolds over to
two twenty four hours. Lizzie McGuire was his big follow up,
and he'd later go on to direct two thousand and
six's Wedding Wars with John Stamos and Eric Dane, as

(13:07):
well as holiday themed movies like Kristen's Christmas Past and
Holly's Holiday. Hey. The titles work, they work. The movie
stars Hillary Duff, who is a true teen idol, best
known for the role right here. Outside of Lizzie, she
appeared in movies like the dcom Cadet Kelly, which We
Want to Get to Agent Cody Banks, Cheaper by the Dozen,

(13:27):
and a Cinderella Story. She most recently starred and produced
the How I Met Your Mother sequel How I Met
Your Father. She also has numerous albums that she's released.
She's a New York Times best selling author and has
her own clothing line. She has one point two million kids.
She is absolutely just an empire. She doesn't have that
many children, but she's got a lot of kids. Where

(13:48):
do we rank Hillary Duff in the Disney Hall of Fame.
She's up there, Oh don't you think?

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
She's first ballot, first ballot. I think, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
She's up there with Raven and Miley Cyrus.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
I think so too.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Those those three.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Though, I think Raven Simone, Hillary Duff and Miley Cyrus
are kind of the trifecta of Disney perfection back in
the early two thousands, Like those would be the three
on Mount Rushmore. I think if you were going to
do that, I mean, Hannah, Montana, Raven, and Lizzie McGuire
are kind of like you don't have to know anything
about the channel to still know those charactors and those names.

(14:28):
And yeah, definitely. Adam Lamberg plays David Gordo Gordon, the
same character he made famous on the TV show for
its entire run. Haley Todd is Joe McGuire, Lizzie's mom,
also from the show. Her actual mother, though, was Anne
Morgan Gilbert, one of the stars of The Dick Van
Dyke Show, and you can see her pregnant with Haley
on the show. Halley would also appear on Murder, She

(14:51):
wrote Growing Pains, and star Trek the Next Generation, by
the way hot take on murder, she wrote, Angela Lansberry
was doing all the murdering and just writing about it.
And we've got Jake Thomas is Matt McGuire. That's Lizzie's
little brother. A show favorite. Thomas began his career on TV,
but quickly was cast in the criminally underrated Jennifer Lopez
film The Cell. He later appeared in movies like AI,

(15:11):
Artificial Intelligence and Christmas Vacation two and TV shows like
Disney's Corey in the House Er and NCIS and We've
got the legendary Robert Carodine returning as Sam maguire, Lizzie's dad.
Carrodine is best known as the main character Lewis Skulnick
in The Revenge of the Nerds. Movies great movies that ooh,
do not hold up. But yeah, those are probably I

(15:32):
don't like to judge things from now compared to when
they were made, but problematic films.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Really, I've got to go watch them.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
That very problematic stuff happening in those movies. Oh yeah, not.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
How long it's been since I've seriously seen them, but.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, not good. But has been in a ton of things,
including Escape from La and he is a kid in
Martin Scorsese's Mean Streets, Django, Unchained, Nash Bridges, and most
memorably for us, he is great in the d com
Mom's Got a Date with a Vampire? Remember that he's
the guy travel around trying to find the vampire. Time

(16:06):
now clicked?

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I did not remember ye now? Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yes. He is also part of a very large Hollywood family.
His father, John Carrodine was regarded as the best character
actor of his dime, and his brother Keith Carrodine, half
brothers David Carodine and Michael Bowen, and niece Martha Plimpton
all have incredible careers and memorable faces. Very famous Hollywood family,
and some fun little appearances in this movie. One is
Haley Duff, Hillary's sister, best known as Summer in Napoleon Dynamite.

(16:34):
She is the singing voice of Italian pop star Isabella Parigi,
but never actually seen. Huh pretty great away, I.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Was wondering, I'm so glad to see that they're here.
The answer for that?

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Okay, there you go, and we've got one of my favorites.
Alex Bornstein is miss Ungermeyer. Bornstein is best known now
as the voice of Lois Griffin on Family Guy, but
has become a premier name in comedy on shows like
Mad TV, The Marvelous Missus, Masel, Shameless, and Gilmore Girls.
She's also written almost fifty of the Family Guy episodes.
And she is just flat out funny. She's one of

(17:10):
those people that no matter what she does, she's fine.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
She kills it every time, every time.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
She's one of those people where you're just waiting to
laugh every time she opens her mouth because she's.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
That funny, and you're waiting to see how far she
takes her character because she always goes good, the just
fullest lenked love so good.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
And finally, with an uncredited feature background role, we have
Evangeline Lily. That's right well before her fame from lost
in movies like The Hobbit and ant Man. She's an
uncredited police officer in this movie. I didn't see her,
Did you see her?

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I went back and looked again, and women police officers at.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
I did not see Evangeline Lily anywhere. And it's we're
gonna have to find it. We're gonna have to find
a screenshot somewhere because I can shot it and The
Lizzie McGuire movie is ninety four minutes long, four over target,
which debtie makes this movie say it with me who
not too too long? Though? We were looking for the

(18:06):
length of three Lizzie McGuire episodes in a row with commercials,
and yet they didn't nail it. Sorry, people, my little
animated characters coming out in the bottom, going too long
and then running off the other side. And here comes
a big connection between me, Hi, I'm Wilfredell and Lizzie McGuire.
This movie was written by Susan Estelle Janssen and executroducer
of the Lizzie TV show, but also a writer on

(18:27):
shows like Home Improvement, Maybe This Time, and was one
of our writers on Boy Meets World and even more connections.
The other two writers credited on this film are John
Strauss and Ed Dector, who were also Boy Meets World writers.
So know all three of them?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Well, were they also writers on the show?

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah? I don't know if doctor and Strauss wrote on
Lizzie McGuire show, but I know that Susan did. Okay, okay,
but Dector and Strauss they were Boy Mets World writers
as well. But they are a team best known behind
writing There's Something About Mary, as well as the Santa
Claus two, but have also been showrunners on series like
In Plain Sight, The Closer and Mozart's Jungle. Either together

(19:06):
or separately. These are two guys who have done a
lot in Hollywood. They're also very very nice guys. I
just saw I think it would No. I saw Dector
not that long ago, maybe a year ago. We have
lunch together. Wow, all right, round up your Italian doppelgangers,

(19:29):
because it's time to get in to the Lizzie McGuire movie.
We open up with some intense music, almost Mission Impossible esque.
We see switches being flipped, lights flashing in a camcorder
with a tape that reads blackmail. A hand presses record
and we are officially into the Lizzie McGuire movie. And
that's not how I expected it to start. It's revealed
to be the work of Lizzie's little brother Matt. Now

(19:50):
keep in mind, I know nothing of these characters, so
I am instantly like, what's going on. He's now hiding
the camera in a remote control police car. He exclaims
some say of an aisle. I say, genius. He drives
a police car right to a sister's room who's getting
ready for a graduation. A frustrated Lizzie slams her door,
thinking at least now she's stolen his toy. But Matt's

(20:11):
plan has actually come together. He will use this footage
for eternity to hang over his sister's head. But also
he's just filming his sister in her bedroom, like when
she's getting dressed and all that. Kind of it's just
a major backfire, I mean, total invasion of privacy. I
did not know this guy yet at all, and I
was like, ew so, yes, but no, but if.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
You know the show, it's like it's just another one
of his.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Just like things that he's nigans.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yes, he just sits and drives her crazy as she's
going through all her like awkward stages. After awkward stages,
he's there to just make it that much worse. This
is his character through and through.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Okay, good, so then he's just did most of the time.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, Like yeah, he just kind of he's just that,
you know, he's that Disney ron zibling who's younger and
just makes your life hell, gotcha?

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Okay, fair enough. He's kind of like Shia's character a
little bit in even Stevens.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Kind of yeah, yeah, well, I mean I don't know
a gadgety and and yes, but he didn't. I don't
feel like he Maybe I'm thinking of it wrong. But
with the brother's sibling relationship, he just drove her crazy,
drove her crazy because she was so studious and like
couldn't understand live his life like this versus like him

(21:26):
actually trying to like make her life. Hell, I don't
remember it being as much as this kid. Jake's character
was just like trying to make the most annoying.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Okay, got it, Love that, but still We're now into
the opening credits, set to a Hillary Duff cover of
the Tide is High by the Paragons. Lizzie's getting ready,
trying on a ton of different outfits, and this is
our first clips at animated Lizzie. It's a little more brash,
tiny version of her, kind of able to do the
things the real life Lizzie can't say things that she can't,
you know, that kind of stuff. But then Matt's remote

(21:58):
control car continues to secretly film her, and its possible
Oscar winning clip is her falling into her bathtub while dancing.
She seems to fall a lot. I didn't know that.
Is that a thing on the show too? She's very clumsy? Okay,
again I didn't. I didn't know any of this stuff.
We then cut to Lizzie's junior high graduation. Junior high.

(22:18):
So that's when I was like, oh, it's got to
kick it up because Hillary was what sixteen or seventeen
in the movie, and she's supposed to be in the
eighth grade. She's graduating eighth grade. She hasn't even started
high school yet.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah, I felt like she didn't look I felt like
they that she looked young.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
You thought she looked twelve.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
That wouldn't be twelve years it would I graduate.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
No, I was thirteen when I became a freshman in
high school. I was twelve years old when I finished
the eighth grade.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
No, you weren't, Yes, I was.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
I was. I turned thirteen the summer before I went.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
To high right now, No, No, I went to high
school in nineteen I went to I went.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
I was born in nineteen seventy six, and I graduated
high school in ninety four, which means I started when
I was. I started in eighty nine, ninety I just
August of eighty nine ninety I turned thirteen. Yeah, so yeah,
just it seemed and a couple of people on that
trip were not did not look like eighth graders.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yes, then that's I think what was hard to and
what makes me think when it think about the sixty
five episodes type situation is the age that the kids are.
They some mature so fast, right, No, it's so fast, right,
So like that's hard if you're going to keep those
characters in line, trying to keep them aging at the
same rate.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
It's I get it, it's tough. And she definitely played younger,
but I was it was like, oh, they're in the
eighth grade. It was was a lot. It's not It
wasn't too bad.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
But it was because this is what I will get
into at later. But we haven't done a movie that
was supposed to be this young in a long time.
Most of our movies all the characters are right in
that like sophomore year of high school. So it was
a little bit of a switch to to think about,
and it's part of what made me go.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
It makes sense to It makes sense so a little
bit because back in the day, in the early two thousands,
I think they were skewing young. The whole channel was
their demo.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Their demo was like ten to eleven.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Right where now you go into Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes,
totally So anyway, we now see Lizzie is in her
cap and gown, joined by her family mom, dad, and Matt,
who's still with the camera. Her mom can't believe Lizzie's
graduating and going to Rome for two weeks by yourself.
And again, eighth grade, too young to be going to
a different country by yourself for yeah, two weeks, it

(24:36):
seemed with one chaperone, that seemed like a little it would.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Have I mean, it would make me really nervous to
even send my kid at that age with like another
with her best friend's family, Like you're across the sea, hello,
the ocean, Yeah, for two weeks, that would be so
so scary. So in a group with like they're in
hotel rooms. How do you know they stay in those

(25:01):
hotel rooms during the night. I was like already going,
oh my gosh, nope, never sorry, Monroe, You'll be yeah,
you'll not do any of this.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
You can watch the Lizzie Maguire Show from the safety
of your bedroom, but you ain't going to Rome. Yeah.
Her dad is obviously very emotional and serious about this
big day. Her cartoon appears, also dressed in a cap
and gown and annoyed that her dad will probably quote
a dead guy. Then, of course he does, he quotes Shakespeare.
Real izz He finds her best guy friend Gordo and
asks how her cap and gown looks. He suggests she

(25:29):
talked to her best girlfriend Miranda about this stuff, but
Miranda's in Mexico City or there seemed to be something
going on, because you're the one who told me that
she was a massive part of the series, right, and
then she just wasn't in the show. Wasn't the movie instantly?

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Maybe because again this movie, this show was out like
twenty years ago, So I was like, wait what, I
don't remember what what happened, but something had to have
gone down for her to not actually be in this
last movie.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, something or something. Uh, something's up. Yeah, but anyway,
then a very annoying girl, Kate, walks up and dis
is Lizzie because she also wore the same outfit which
is underneath her cap and gown to the spring dance.
Kate yells out, Lizzabe guire, you are an outfit repeater.
The entire school looks at her and what a this?

(26:15):
Kate is instantly right off the bat. Lizzie reminds Gordo
that Kate used to be her best friend, but Gordo
says that was before she was popular. They are interrupted
by a teacher, mister Escobar. Was he a regular on
the show? Mister Escobar, he seemed like he would have been.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, I don't remember him that much, okay.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Who tells Lizzie that Margaret Chan either has ebola or
a very bad cold, so Lizzie will need to fill
in for the class president's speech. She's the school treasurer,
so she can't get out of it. And I was like,
wait a minute, that's not fair to her. No, I
didn't prepare a speech. I mean, come on. She's terrified, obviously,
and cartoon Lizzie suggests she run, but before you know it,

(26:53):
the ceremony has begun and Lizzie's being called up to
the mic. Even her parents are shocked as she struggles
and shrieks at the podium with the speaker feedback. There's
bright lights, there's everything. It's certainly not going well, and
of course, her brother's filming it all with a big
smile on his face. She eventually excuses herself for some water,
and on her way out, she stumbles on some balloons
and pulls down the entire auditorium backdrop right out of

(27:13):
the graduates. Lizzie McGuire has ruined graduation and fallen yet again.
We're four minutes in the movie. She's falling again. Now
at the airport with their family and Gordo, Lizzie knows
she has to leave the country. Her mom tells her
it wasn't that bad, but Lizzie says the footage was
on Good Morning America. Matt Grinn's revealing he probably sent
it to them. The mcguires are startled by a loud
whistle and speeding airport cart. It's Miss Angermeyer, Lizzie's upcoming

(27:35):
high school principle. She seems to be very stern, even mean.
Gordo says, if you stay on her good side, you'll
end up at an Ivy League school, but if you're
on her bad side, you'll end up working for the
janitor that mops up puke. Okay, so the high school
principle appears to be there because they have to go
together for a trip to Rome for incoming students, including

(27:58):
Lizzie and Gordo, but Ungermeer says that most of their
classmates instead chose to take a thirty six hour bus
ride to the Water Safari, which is a theme park.
And it's all just kind of weird. I don't get it.
So they're the new principle that they haven't met yet
at the high school they haven't started yet is taking

(28:18):
a select group of kids to Rome, but other kids
are going to a water park. Yeah, I didn't get it.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
I'm just assuming this is like a summer trip that.
I mean, God, this would have to be like a
like a crazy private school to be doing.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Like yeah, but I just don't get why these two week.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Rome State like vacation type thing. But yeah, I mean,
I guess it would be like you know, they have
to have in order to go through the district. I
know how it is when it's district related here in California.
In order for me to take my girls to Florida,
I have to have somebody who's a full time teacher
staff member on the trip with us. Okay, I'm only

(29:02):
like part time, So it would I mean for it
to be the principal is kind of crazy, but like
it could be they're not in yet, but they would
still be going. Like we're taking I'm taking my freshman
girls that are on my team down to Palm Springs
for our camp. So we're still going. Like they're still there.
They've made the team, so they're and they're going and registered.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
But actually, Cholie, freshman, you're not taking eighth graders that
haven't joined the school yet, are you.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, they're eighth you are graduating this next coming coach.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Oh, so they're not freshman becoming sophomore, they're the eighth right, Well,
there you.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Go, Yeah, content do that, But you do you have
to have like a someone at the school like I'm like,
you know, a walk on coach type thing versus like
I have to have them who's like a full time
staff faculty member. And the district.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
You just proved the deal. You just proved it. So
there you go. Unger Meyer are going to be taking
these kids to thirty one Roman Landmarks in two weeks
and they're going to return with culture if it kills her.
And Alex Bornstein is once again just so fun and great.
She's amazing now aboording Lizzie says goodbye to her family
near the gate, and her mom embraces her for a
little too long. On her way to board, she looks
back one last time and her mom and they're both crying.

(30:10):
Lizzie runs back and gives her one final hug. It's
a very nice little moment. Now alone with Gordo, another classmate,
Ethan grabs them sarcastically and is excited about going to
a place where they invented spaghetti. Okay, pizza was actually
invented in Naples, though near Rome. It's not Rome, I
get it, and it's spaghetti. I think most pasta was

(30:31):
invented in Asia, but it's not. It's funny. Lizzie's just
happy that bully Kate and her pals won't be on
the plane. They went to water Safar instead. But nope,
she was wrong perfectly time Kate appears already making fun
of Lizzie on her way to the aircraft. Now in
the air, we get a flight montage of Lizzie and
Gordo having fun, which it's like even as they're talking,

(30:51):
the Ungermeer makes them be quiet. I'm like, they have
to have a quiet plane ride to Rome. That's the worst.
Lizzie ends up sleeping on Gordo's shoulder and he seems
very happy about it. It's very sweet. I've never watched
the show, as you know, so I should be rooting
for them as a couple. Am I rooting for them
as a couple? Is that what we want? Yeah? Has
it been broached before? Is this kind of like an
ongoing thing or no?

Speaker 2 (31:12):
I don't know. I feel like I always just liked
them together, because again, they were both like really good
friends to each like they were good friends to each other.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
And but was this just kind of thrown Was the
romantic aspect just thrown in for the movie and not
at all in the television show? We did that on
Kim Possible To It.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Teased tiny, a tiny bit, but it wasn't a big
storyline yet. In my recollection of.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
This show, gotcha okay? Fair enough? Fair enough? The montage
continues as the plane touches down in Rome the class
boards of bus and now we hear the Italian song
in an Evening in Roma by Dean Martin. We see
the Colisseum, the Roman Forum and Lizzie laughing so much
it's really disturbing. We don't know what. She's laughing over
and over. It's like she has that weird Joaquin Phoenix
Joker disease where she's got to hand out the card

(31:58):
going like I'm sorry, I have something. I'm laughing like
a creep because it was a little weird. They eventually
arrive at their hotel. Ungermeyer warns them it won't be
easy to pull anything on her, especially with the help
of the hotel's general manager, a former commander in the
Italian Navy, Giorgio. But this goofy pushover doesn't look like
he spent one day in comment and one day in
combat and won't be any help when it comes to

(32:18):
the discipline. He was actually very funny. Ungermeyer lifts off
the room assignments. Gordo will be with Ethan and Lizzie
will be with and then the cartoon. Lizzie returns Ben
a minute. She yells out that she will not, under
any circumstances be rooming with and then we cut to
the room and yes, of course she's rooming with that Kate.
Kate's already pushing Lizzie around to dis may have animated Lizzie.
Gordo stops by and takes Lizzie to see an amazing

(32:40):
view from the roof. It helps Lizzie realize she's not
gonna let Kate Sanders get her down. She makes Gordo
promise that they will find adventures together. The next day,
the classes at the Trevy Fountain and Ungermeyer says that
people travel from all over the world to toss a
coin in the fountain and make a wish, but she
thinks those people are suckers. But Lizzie doesn't. She stays
behind with Gordo and throws a coin in the creating
a very dramatic effect that can only mean one thing

(33:02):
in a d com The dream is gonna come true,
And immediately after, an attractive Italian boy spots in the crowd.
He is shocked Isabella animated Lizzie, who is rafting in
the fountain stealing coins, says the wish was actually for
smooth sailing in high school. But this will work. Lizzy
explains she's not Isabella, but he insists she looks just
like a friend of his. Then a bodyguard pulls this

(33:24):
mystery stud Paolo Valasari away. It's time for a photo shoot,
and instantly it was like, oh, he's bad. I knew it,
knew right away. I didn't trust this guy as far
as I could throw him into Trevy Fountain. I swear
to God. The second he came on screen and he
had the bodyguard and everything, I was like, bad news.

(33:46):
This guy is bad new.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
I was like, oh, this is cool.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
No, to the point where at one point during the movie,
I'm like, twenty minutes in, I literally texted producer tar
and I'm like, this guy's bad. I don't trust this
guy at all. Yeah, telling you didn't trust this guy
even a little bit. Now in the streets of Rome,
Ungermeyer ushers her students into a cafe for gelato, but
Polo and a security guard, Saragay, are still trailing Lizzy.

(34:12):
He can't give this up. She introduces herself as Lizzie Maguire,
but Polo still can't get over how much she looks
like his pal Isabella, and neither can some of the
nearby cafe patrons. They crowd Lizzy up for They crowded
Lizzy up for photos with Isabella and Pallo, and that's
when she spots a billboard. It's for Pollo and Isabella,
who are a singing duo. And Lizzie does indeed look

(34:32):
a lot like Isabella because it's it's Hillary Duff in
a wig, and that's I was like, that's when I
was starting to going, Wait a minute, secret singer, same girl.
Is this pre or post Tanna Montana? I didn't know
this was going. I also texted a producer to ask,
is Hillary Duff is Lizzie McGuire a singer or someone
who sings part of the Lizzie McGuire show, like she

(34:55):
was a singer, and apparently it had nothing to do
with that, which again I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
I think by this time, Hillary on her own, I'm
sure she was with Hollywood Records, was starting to put
out music, right, Okay, she's already doing that, And so
then now Disney locks in kind of for the first
time with their talent. Oh, there's more to this than us,

(35:20):
just like keeping her dress as an actress, let's start pushing,
let's use it her franchise.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah yeah, okay, so well that makes sense. I was like,
did they just throw this in? But anyway, Polo wants
to see Lizzie again tomorrow. He's excited, and so is
animated Lizzie. Gordo says, he'll cover for her with Ungermeyer,
but Lizzie tells Polo she can't, she's with her school.
Polo is now late to his photo shoot, but he
says if she changes her mind, he will be at
Trevy Fountain again at nine am tomorrow. He romantically speaks

(35:46):
Italian to her, kisses her hand, and is caught in
the act by paparazzi. Oh that night at the hotel,
Lizzie admits to Gordo that she digs Pollo and Isabella's
pop music. Keep this in mind, this will come back.
She shares her headphones with him to get a listen,
and he comments on her sweet scent. He quickly gets
embarrassed and we for sure know thou that he likes her.
Lizzie says she's still contemplating meeting up with Pollo, but

(36:09):
she never really sneaks away. It's not her thing, but
Gorda reminds her she's looking for adventure here, but Lizzie
meant with him. He says they'll go on their adventures,
but the first one is hers. Then he slightly asks
if she's feeling okay, good friend, Hey, I've got a
big crush on you, but I'm gonna be your wingman.
That's the way it's gonna wong. And he was a
good guy. We cut to the morning. Lizzie is laying

(36:30):
in bed with miss Ungermeyer and an Italian doctor hovering
over her. She doesn't have a fever, but the doctor
asks why would a beautiful young girl on her first
trip to Rome want to lie in bed all day?
She's obviously ill. Ungermeyer wonders if it has anything to
do with embarrassing herself on graduation, with the doctor admits
he saw on CNN Animated Lizzie has shocked CNN, and
then she's squashed quickly by a little TV set. The

(36:52):
doctor recommends a day in bed and two apricots, not
for digestion or anything, just because they're in season, and
just like that, Ungermeyer leaves her to be, and the
two of them together we're a very funny scene anywhere.
As soon as they're gone, Lizzie jumps up. She was
fully clothed and ready to get to Trivia Fountain asap,
and once she arrives, she finds Pallo in a security
and he's still such a dream boat. Pallow not the

(37:12):
bodyguard animated Lizzie appears to be in love and melts
in two hearts. Polo immediately takes her on his moped
he rented. It's a Vespa. But man, if you want
to so very quick side story, my friend and I
went to Rome. I was shooting Boy Mets World at
the time. It was in between season one and season two,
and we went to Rome and the first day, like

(37:33):
the second day we got there, we rented mopeds, we
rented vespas. It was a Sunday and we cruised all around.
It was the coolest thing in the world. Monday, we
met these two girls from the United States and we're like, oh,
let's hang out and we'll get Vespas again. The four
of us rented him and then it was like riding
through the streets of New York City at rush hour.

(37:53):
So because it was Sunday, we were like zipping around.
This is the best. On Monday, We're like, it was
such a different experience, let me tell you. But anyway,
he's running, he's in his on his moped with her.
They put on helmets and they take off speaking through
the beautiful city to another cover song, the Italian standard
Vola now sung by Vitamin c did I read that right?

(38:15):
Vitamin C? Vitamin actually sung a song that is her name?
Oh to her? Okay, gotcha? Is Vitamin C still a singer?

Speaker 2 (38:26):
I'm sure she is singing somebody?

Speaker 1 (38:28):
I mean, is this somebody I should know? Is this
somebody in the in She.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Had one song that she had was like graduation or something.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Just a Lisa just says she had that graduation song. Yeah,
it was in the original Hairspray movie. Okay, I apologize,
I apologize, miss C. I did not know that. I'm
just gonna call you.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
We had bright orange hair with like like big streaks
in it too.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Okay, gotcha cool? Learn something new. Every day we see
animated Lizzie holding onto the bike's bumper taking pictures, and
again Lizzie is constantly laughing like an insane person. Something's
wrong with her. Back home, Matt is surfing the web
researching Rome. He's joined by his friend Melina. He says
he doesn't know what catastrophe Lizzie will find there, but
she'll find one somehow. Molina insults Matt for having that

(39:12):
graduation moment on film and just giving it out for free.
He has nothing a show for it, she seems like
a real piece of work, pretending to be a sweet
little angel and miss Maguire but also reminding Matt you
should always take cash up front when blackmailing. And she
seemed like she's going to be a serial killer. She
was funny, but I mean, my god, they really bully
Holy you said that's part of the show, right, She's

(39:32):
in the show as well.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
They were like in it together. She had so many
of the like, you know, helping him out, figuring out
how to do these certain things. But she went I
would say this take on her character was a step
up from what I remember in the show. I was like, whoa,
this girl is a grassive with a capital A damn.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
And this is the style of the show too, right,
Meaning it's not multiicam, it's not in front of an
eye insie Canna Montana. This is it's single cam like
this Gotcha, which makes sense because the animation and all
that good kind of stuff, right. I didn't know if
they put that in after in front of a live
studio on its but no, okay, gotcha. Back in Rome, now,

(40:17):
Polo and Lizzie hit a dead end on their moped.
They're blocked. It's technically a Vespa, which sounds cooler. They're
blocked by cars, so security Serge finally catches up in
his car. Lizzie thinks Serge is just a friend, but
Polo explains it's his security guard, which seemed obvious to
everybody but everyone else And then what everybody else got it?
Maybe there are a few things wrong with this film.

(40:38):
And then while stuck in the street, she spots her
school tour bus and missus Ungermyer a few cars back.
She tells Paula to speed off, and Gordo, from inside
the bus, also sees the predicament. He quickly asked the
principal some questions about their itinerary to divert her attention,
but she knows he's up to something, but he's still
able to distract her long enough for the traffic jam
to clear up and save Lizzie. This guy is just

(40:59):
the best friend ever.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
I know, I like fell in love with him.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
How could you not? He was awesome? He was awesome.
We are now in a safer situation. Lizzie Apolo a
walk through a street market. Lizzie wants to know if
he still loves Isabella. Wait, what did I miss? The storyline?
Here he was dating a singing singing partner. We weren't
told that, right, how would Lizzie know? So just all
of a sudden, it was like, wait, are you still
with It? Seemed like we skipped a scene. I didn't

(41:26):
get what was going on. Also, why is he getting
mobbed everywhere he goes right away? But then can stand
at the trivia fountain with the girl who looks exactly
like her with no problems whatsoever?

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Consistent how he was being like.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Not famous and yeah, yeah weird.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
It's true. And then also I feel like, to me
it was weird that like it was hard for me
at this point. And I don't know if I had
watched it like a while ago, but like, there aren't
very many singing duos that are like a man like
a girl and a guy, right Sonny and Cher Yeah

(42:05):
in the seventies.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Basically the only one I can think of Captain and
tinil Okay.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Also, yeah, like like this was it was a weird
thing to put like to me, I just feel like
it should have been like they were a couple that
also did a few songs together, not necessarily like a
singing duo.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
So he says, yes, he still loves his singing partner,
but as a sister, which is why he wants to
hook up with her twin. He didn't say that, but
I just did because that's exactly what he's talking about.
Paulo says it's complicated, which is exactly what Derinda was
saying when she was in Europe, So maybe just Europe
is just complicated.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
He says. They're the biggest pop duo in the country,
but he wants to make more serious music. When he
told this to Isabella, she said no and ran off,
and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, that's
not what happened to all. Liarh whatever the Italian word
for liar is And when he saw Lizzie he had
a crazy idea. What if at the upcoming International Music

(43:04):
Video Awards, where they're supposed to present an award as
a duo, Lizzie steps in. Going solo isn't a huge
problem for Polo, he writes, the music in Isabella actually
lip syncs. If they don't make it to the award show,
he could be sued. Lizzie's shocked by the idea and
can't imagine presenting in front of an audience she's not
good in front of crowds. Polo tells her she's magnifico,
and then animated Lizzie emerges from a pilot spaghetti. She

(43:25):
doesn't know Italian, but she knows what that means. Eventually,
human Lizzy agrees if it'll help Pollo and Isabella, she
can do it. And this is where I was like,
would huh, yeah what? I don't understand it.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
I'm starting to like get disinterested now because I didn't.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
I didn't get it. Like, wait, he finds her doppelganger
randomly on the street.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
What good is it gonna do? I guess he's not
gonna get sued, but like, what good is it going
to do for him for her to be there and
not him just take it on himself.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
I just didn't understand the story, Like, no, I need
you to fill in and lip sync for her anyway,
because you look just like her? Would she not fire? Okay,
I'm glad I wasn't the only one confused. And you
watched the show. I mean, you knew these characters and
all this stuff, so no, no, what I'm saying is

(44:21):
even even knowing everything going in, you still were confused
by all this stuff exactly.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
So watching the movie now twenty years later, right now,
watching this movie, knowing what I did about the show
when I watched the show, we have introduced music, which
I get because I remember where she was in her career,
but like, music had nothing to do with Lizzie maguire.
So that's what like to what you were talking about
just a few minutes ago. So like all this stuff

(44:48):
was just kind of like now for me, I was like, oh,
it's like feeling forced to make it. Yes, I agree, yes,
And I was just like, no, oh.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
No, no, okay, I agree with you one hundred percent.
I'm I'm glad, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
It just felt it felt like again, I absolutely remember
where Hillary Duff was in her career, and I feel
like it was a part of like I don't want
it could be maybe she wouldn't have wanted to do
the movie if she wasn't going to get a chance
to do what she was moving on to do with
her next steps in her career, which was take on
this solo act in the music industry, So maybe that

(45:23):
was part of it. But it definitely taking a step
back and not being in that world started to feel
very forced.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Now, I agree with you one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
And I felt sad because I was like, oh, I know,
Michaela's probably a giant fan of this.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
I know. I think it's well.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Just things, and I hate letting them down.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I know, well it's the film that let them down.
In all fairness, Lizzie sneeks back into her hotel and
runs directly into Gordo to tell him about her new adventure.
He can't believe she's going to do this, but she
seems so smitten with Paulo, who is seventeen and successful
and so kind. All right, but Gordo. So she's gonna
give an award at an in. But Gordo's concerned. She

(46:07):
rightfully so. She's only known him for a day, fair,
she insists it feels like she's known him her whole life,
or even a week. She thanks Gordo for covering for
her friends and friend zones I'm hardcore, right in front
of his roommate, Ethan. Ethan feels bad for him. He
can tell he likes his best friend and is feeling
the effects of the sting aka jealousy. Gordo denies liking
Lizzie is more than a friend, but no, what he's

(46:29):
buying it. Back at home, Matt sees a very two
thousands of Yahoo Musica online story about Paolo with Isabella
at the Gelato store. But Matt immediately notices his girl
looks exactly like his sister, because it's his sister, and
that devilish Molina has returned. She confirms his hunch by
translating the article. Matt wants to show his mom and
bust Lizzie, but Molina has a plan. She thinks they

(46:51):
should go to the Italian tabloids with all of Matt's
blackmail tapes and sell them for cash. Because if anybody
is gonna know how to get in touch with Italian tabloids,
it's these two kids in suburban America.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
I'm telling you, this girl is like a full blown gangster.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Now it's not okay. I think she's I think it's
more than that. I think at this point she's building
a device to steal the sun. I think it's bigger
than that. I have a psychopath exactly between her and
Lizzie's constant giggling. We've got some interesting psychotics of this movie.
Back in her hotel room, Lindsay is once again faking sick.
With miss Ungermeier. The principle has brought her a book,
The Rise and Decline of the Roman Empire. I actually

(47:30):
have it on that shelf right back there, or a
version of it. It's a great book, and they can
since Lizzie can't join them on the tour. Today Animated
Lizzie is again squashed, this time by the book, but
soon after Lizzie is back on that same vespa with
Paolo and again laughing for absolutely no reason she is
a possible serial killer. We get another sightseeing montage, now
to the song why Not by Hillary Duff, and eventually

(47:52):
landing in an expensive shopping district. Lizzie needs a dress
for the awards. She's thrown in with the store's stylists,
who are surprised by Isabella's blonde and Lizzy blames the
sun in a perfect American accent. Why is nobody pointing
this out? She doesn't even try to fake having an
Italian accent in any way, shape.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Or form, because well we know why.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Later, right, But you're telling me Isabella sounds like Lizzie
McGuire from the United States, and nobody mentions this even
when he says she's going to speak in the English, Okay,
but you don't then turn around like I don't really
like this trap. I mean it's like, oh my god, yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
No, there's still it would still be English with an
Italian accent.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Of course, there's.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Wasn't an option for them to actually it didn't otherwise
they would have done it.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
I am yeah, they tried it later anyway. Meanwhile, Angermeyer
in the class are at the forum. When Gordo sees
a tabloid about Isabella's new hair color, he knows this
is Lizzie and trades some girls the magazine for an
introduction to Ethan. Now, this is when I noticed that
Gordo looks an awful lot like Luca from the Pixar
movie Luca. Did you notice this? He does?

Speaker 2 (49:04):
But what about this scene made you think of Luca?

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I don't know, it just he looks like Luca. He's
a cute kid, He's the nicest kid in the world.
And I was just like wow, yeah, anyway, yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
But it's true, it is very true.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah, we are back at the store. Polo introduces Lizzie
to Franca demon Contini. I think I got that absolutely wrong,
and eccentric fashion designer. She's very famous He covers for
Lizzie by saying their new single is in English, so
for practice, Isabella will only speak it, but it doesn't
explain the accident in any way shape or for him.
Franka hates the blonde hair, saying she looks like a

(49:37):
schoolgirl and feels something very different with her different person.
Franka tells her team to give quote unquote Isabella a makeover,
and we get another montage, Love a good montage, this
time to Taylor Dane's cover of RuPaul's Supermodel You Better.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
I disappointing because they use it all. I cannot do
that song and not use the original.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
It's also used all the time though it's kind of cliche.
But what it wasn't back in the day, maybe this was.
I'll give that a pass because two thousand and three
it wasn't cliche. Maybe a little. We see Lizzie trying
on different ridiculous high fashion outfits, trying to walk, and
once again falling over. This girl falls an off a lot.
Somebody might want to give her a cat scan. It
could be something with an inner ear imbalance, but she
falls a lot. Even animated Lizzie thinks everything is tacky.

(50:22):
Lizzie tells paul that she's going to go on stage
as Isabella, but you'll have to be wearing something comfortable
to feel confident, which is something that she never feels.
Paula encourages Lizzie to tell Franca what Isabella is wearing,
so Lizzie finally gets the courage to tell the fashion
icon that she's not a Barbie doll, She's Isabella Parigi
and she dresses herself. She demands to see some options
and lets Franca pick between her two favorites, and maybe

(50:45):
in the movie's worst moment ever, Lizzie mentions the dresses
the same color as the one she wore to the
spring formal. This obviously confuses everyone since Isabella didn't go
to spring formal. Lizzie instinctually reacts by saying, look at
all of you. You think that I'm American. I'm just
how you say it awesome. I'm gonna I'm gonna take
a break from I'm d COM's podcast.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
I'm not kidding Will. This is when I did take
a break after this this like fashion part. I was like,
I'm sorry, I don't okay, I just need to I
just need to like reset, go to the restroom.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Yeah it was, it was I didn't Okay, yeah, very strange,
but now filled with adrenaline, Lizzie does a cartwell outside
and is thrilled to be as confident as Isabella. She
signs autographs for fans. She once started to write Lizzie
on a Hank's bicep, only to catch yourself and change
it to Isabella. But mid adulation, Lizzie notices the school
bus again and at the same moment, Gordo sees Lizzie

(51:44):
and blocks Kate's view. Lizzie barely escapes once again thanks
to her little friend zone admirer. She owes him yet
another one, and he's by far my favorite part of
the movie. Sergey Russia's Palo and Lizzie back to a
hotel distracting the clerk with an umbrella and getting her
back to her room just before Miss under My and
the class arrive again. And then Miss Ungermeer, I take
that back, Miss Ungermeyer's my favorite part of the movie.

(52:04):
The two of them together were great. Serge and the
principal even have a tense and somewhat sexy standoff. Was
she just in the movie Alex Bornstein or is she
in the show too. She's just in a movie, right, Yeah, Yeah,
that's what I figured. That's what I figured. Lizzie jumps
back into bed, heats up her forehead with the hair dryer,
and continues the Shenanigans Great Word with Ungermeyer, who asked
Kate to watch over her to help, but Kate knows

(52:26):
she's been out of the hotel room. Her hair is done,
her eyebrows match, and she has a fresh manicure. Lizzie
wonders why she isn't ritting her out, but Kate says
she wants to know what's in it for her. Lots
of blackmail in this movie, kids, lots of blackmail. Although animated,
Lizzie is tight lit real. Lizzie sings like a canary.
She tells her everything about Paulo, and Kate is jealous.
She thinks this is the story she should be living.

(52:48):
Lizzie asked her to keep quiet about it, and Kate
says sure, as long as when they get back to
school she's the cool one again. I don't know this
character at all. I don't know anything about it, but
it seemed wildly out of care character to buckle as
fast as she did and for no reason at all.
She's just all of a sudden, now I got.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
And it was like I wasn't getting anything out of it. No,
you have to remember, the person who I would assume
would have normally been in this position would have been Miranda,
the character that was her absolute best friend in the show.
So they had to somehow make this work with this
other character that was also the one that made her
life hell at school. So I don't know if they

(53:28):
would have had both of them in and it would
have been No.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
You're right, it probably would have been the other friend
who was covering for her the whole time, and then
her and Gordo figuring out the best ways to cover
for Lizzie, and they.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Had to kind of that might be there, you know,
as another.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Something exactly like she would have been. Miss Ungermere would
have loved.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
There was a huge hole for them to figure out
how they were going to do stuff, So that was
also kind of a disappointed factor for me.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Okay, Then when Gordo enters, Kate quickly lets him know
she's fully clued into the polo stuff. Gordon's impressed and
chose Lizzie the tabloid he's found Gordo reveals it says
Paolo and Isabelle are supposed to sing at the award show.

(54:14):
Gordo thinks it's odd that he hid this very important detail,
but Lizzy isn't even paying attention to her and Kate
are still funding over the magazine and doesn't think it's
a big deal anyway. Gordo stands by his opinion. Something
is up with Polo. Yeah, and right on time, Polo
arrives outside in this little red go kart to pick
up Lizzie and Kate promises she'll cover for her with Ungermre.

(54:35):
So now they're friends, apparently. Back at the McGuire household,
Matt announces to his parents that he's found something shocking
on the internet. It's not the tabloid though, it's a
survey about how teenage Italian boys want to date American girls.
His parents are confident Miss Ungerer is doing a great
job watching over her, and so Matt pretends defeat and
concedes he just misses his sister. His mom is touched,

(54:56):
even tearing up as they embrace. Matt lays it on
thick and mister McGuire knows where this is going. He's
getting the passports. Matt's plan appears to have worked. What's
the plan? Like, he just wants them to go to Italy?
I don't, I don't. I don't get it. I don't
get it.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
First of all, to be able to just drop everything,
grab your passports and like book a trip to Europe.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
That's tell how.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
These this family is shown with having that kind of
money in the show, So that's also that's that's again
we're bringing in new aspects of like dad's gotten a
new job, We've got money to fill the world. So
we're going to go to this trip. But again with
what for what what are they doing? They're going to

(55:41):
grab her and bring her home?

Speaker 1 (55:43):
No, I think it's just jo I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
And again this is you have to keep in mind,
this is before camera phones where you can face time, right,
It's before that situation. So you know you're talking about
emailing and texting at some point. But why wouldn't they
even call? Why wouldn't they start with a call and

(56:07):
then go, oh my god, she's sick, She's okay, We're
on our way. Is it him?

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Is he trying to get there so that he can
sell the stuff to the Italian tabloid.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
He's trying to expose what she's doing, that she is
not this Isabella person.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
That's and he couldn't do that with a phone call.
He needs to have the entire family go to Italy.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Yeah. It also was obviously in the show and the
script just to get these other main characters that were
a huge parts of the show. And like what we
found out with from Jake is he was the be
the big story. Yeah, he was a bigger part of
it than just being like the little sidekick, you know it,
little brother. Yeah, but this was like so they're just going, yes.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Going, and I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
We're now back at the hotel. Lizzie is still trying
to sneak past the clerk, eventually tiptoeing her way outside
with some very close calls and hey she made it
without falling. And once in Polo's go kart, which is
essentially what it is, Lizzie wants to know once and
for all, are they supposed to sing at the award shows.
Polo admits it's true and tells her all about it.
At the Tivoli Gardens, Gordo sees them pull off, still

(57:17):
suspicious as hell, obviously. Now at the gardens, Polo explains
when Isabella dropped out of the duo, he told everyone
it was because she was having voice problems. Once the
media heard Lizzie talking at the gelato shop, they reported
Isabella's voice was fine, but apparently not that she was
also American. So now they're stuck singing or their record
label will sue him. Right when things get a little heated,

(57:40):
Pallo changes the subject by holding her hand and running
near waterfalls. He swears he'll teach Lizzie everything she needs
to know, and Isabella will never see it because she's
off on some island. He says he'll protect Lizzie if
she ends up embarrassed, he will have to live for
a week with missus Ungermeier. He asks for her trust.
He knows that they can sing together. This is when

(58:01):
I texted one of the producers and I said, does
she sing? Does Lizzie McGuire sing? Is this part of
the thing? And they said no. So just now she's
saying ayah, it's I get this energy, but it does
feel very forced. Now running back to the streets, they
see fireworks and I again knew right off the bat,
I'm now along for the ride, just to see what

(58:21):
the hell's going on? But I knew this is this
guy was bad the second he opened his mouth. Did
you think he was bad at this point, Sabrina? Did
you figure it out? Or did you think it was
still Isabella that was crazy?

Speaker 2 (58:31):
No, I was gold Isabella die. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
I did not nobody knows.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
I did not know what I was so confused and
just I'm at this point not buying anything that's being
thrown at me at this point, like I've just kind
of checked.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Out, confusing.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
I agree, I've checked out.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
I kind of agree, and you're I'm so glad. Okay,
I hate to say this, but I'm so glad you
checked out as well. And you were legitimately a fan
of Lizzy maguire. So it's not just me being that
the old asshole watching the movie going like just doesn't
make any sense. You were a fan of Lizzy McGuire,
knew all the characters, and you checked out as well,
where it was like, what the hell is happening?

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Okay, I feel like keep in mind too, like I
was a fan of the show and never really watched
this movie. Like at this point, I'm going there's just
no way I could have watched this movie and not yeah, yeah,
I would have kind of known. So I'm like it
was hard to then try to like get back into
my idea of watching. You know, I went and watched
a couple episodes before I watched the movie just okay, yeah,

(59:34):
a little bit like everything, and it was just like
this just to it. It's just so far fetched from
what the show was in all honesty. The characters are
the same. You know, Lizzie's the same, Kate's the same,
the like you know, Gordo airhead, airhead, hot guy, He's

(59:56):
the same, Ethan, Gordo's the same. We're missing and uh,
I was not able to get over that. I was
just kind of like, oh, okay, this is what I
was wanting to It wasn't just me so excited.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
I'm glad it wasn't just me. Meanwhile, are we coming no? Sorry,
our producers love it. Meanwhile, Gordo is still on the balcony,
looking sad and angry. Was he there all day and night?
Was he there all day and night?

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
I guess he was just keeping a lookout for whatever
his dream girl came back.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Okay, tell all right, and Now the mcguires are on
a plane to Rome. For some reason, Matt opens his
blackmail briefcase while sitting next to his dad. You had
one job, Matt, you had one job. Anyway, he sees
the internet story about her and Polo and now they
need to know everything, and like his sister earlier, he
sings like a canary. Back at the hotel, Aungermere is
leaving with her class of the day, just as Lizzie

(01:00:52):
is sneaking out in a food cart. But Ungermer remembers
she wanted to bring some apricots up to Lizzie's room
since she's still sick. She starts to make her way update,
but Gordo comes through once again. He cuts her off.
He wants some spaghetti, but she catches on quickly. Why
is he trying to stop her from going to the
mguire's room. Maybe she was never sick to begin with.
She just did this to sneak out of the hotel. Now.
A very cool thing about miss Ungermeer is she's unlike

(01:01:14):
any teacher or parent ind comes from the past. She's
not a total idiot. She actually figures everything out very quickly,
But Gordo's still thinking out his toes. He blames himself,
he's the one who's been sneaking out As a result,
Ungermeer sends him home. Kate sought all go down, knowing
Gordo just fell on his sword for Lizzie and looks
pretty upset about it. Again, nice guy. She's off with

(01:01:36):
the polo, the Vespa rider, who's clearly bad. Where the good?
Gordo's just waiting at home, covering her, apparently singing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
And he was so excited about this trip too, like
so excited, and I just going home now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Yep, and he's going home for her. And now Paulo
and Lizzie arrive at a massive, stunning rehearsal hall. We
find out they'll be singing at the Colisseum, so he
thinks this will make for good practice. And again, okay,
I can't. She's Isabella's not supposed to see that they're singing,
that somebody who looks just like her is singing at
the coliseum because she's on an island. Yeah, okay. They

(01:02:12):
take the stage and Palla starts singing and instructs Lizzie
to lip sync. Animated Lizzie refuses, but real Lizzie gets
into it, mimicking the words in real life song by
Hilary's sister Haley. Okay, so she knows the words to
this because she listened to their album, right, that's what
we're supposed to gain? They covered that. I thought the
same thing. Okay, she knows the song because she was

(01:02:34):
listening to their album Gotcha. Okay, fair enough. Palla doesn't
like what he sees, though, so he tells Lizzie to
audibly sing along. It looks better and her mike will
be off. They start again, belting out a ballot called
this Is What Dreams Are Made Of. They transition into
an upbeat track to dance. We see highlights of him
teaching her the moves and Sabrina as our resident dance expert.
What'd you think? It is?

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Awful? Okay, awful. It was hard to watch, and this
was my second after this. I had to take another break.
This movie took me three days to watch. Will three
freaking days to watch because it was like, oh, and

(01:03:23):
you know, it's like I not it just it's like
I just don't. I don't like I okay, because I
do know how to dance, and I do teach dance
and coach dance, and I've been lucky enough to be
on Dancing with the Stars, but I don't ever like
to feel like I'm like this, like expert of I

(01:03:44):
just know all of all. But there is sometimes when
you see bad dancing, you sometimes have to just call
it for what it is. And again, to our producers
who love this movie, I am sorry, but this dancing
was off. It really was.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
One of the producers just wrote in the chat, I
am shook, honestly on you know, there's an.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Old saying and acting which I don't know, shook, How
can you not no, this is one of this is no,
this is no.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Well, there's an old saying in acting that you should
apply to dance then, which is it doesn't take a
great actor to recognize a bad one. Okay, so maybe
it's the same thing in dancing. Maybe it does, which
you are a great dancer, But to make yourself feel better,
you can say it doesn't take a great dancer to
recognize the bad one. There was I know nothing of dance,
and I noticed it was bad.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
But to be honest, it seriously wasn't even like that.
They were just like bad dancing. It was like the
choreography they we're doing. She was in the weirdest outfit,
the shoes, the dress, like it was weird that she
was in that everything looked weird about it, and it

(01:04:54):
was not shot like it wasn't compared to think about
what we have seen Will and the way these other
movies would dance type things kind of the same exact
that we've already seen, how it's shot differently than what
this was. This was just all around missing the mark
on like, okay, several levels.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
By the way, producer michaela is still trying to justify something.
I mean, Hillary isn't a dancer, and neither is Lizzie.
So now it's realistic. Isn't that what she wanted? She
she is going down with.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
This show, so I don't want her to dance at all.
Of that's not if it's not going to be done
right and they're not saying to do it right. There,
just stand there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
I gotcha. After practice, which apparently she needs a lot of,
Lizzie returns to the hotel and wants to tell Gordo
all about her night, but Kate tells her he got
sent home for covering for her. Kate also clues Lizzie
in on the most obvious part he likes her. Duh.
Lizzy and Kate run down to Giorgio, the hotel clerk,
and begging to call the airport. He's told the plane
has already left, which makes Lizzie run to the corner

(01:05:55):
and cry. But we see that Gordo is just boarding
the plane and guess who he's He's arriving in Rome
at the same time the real Isabella. What are the chances?
He jumps out a line to approach her, and this
is why we get to hear Hillary's Italian accent. I'm
not going to bash another actor. I can't, but this
is where we're gonna see it. Oh and apparently this

(01:06:17):
is where Evangeline Lily appears. We think holding Gordo. Okay,
that makes sense, especially now because again not to jump ahead,
but our friend Jake Thomas told us that they shot
a lot of this in Vancouver, so that makes sense
because Evangeline Lily is from Canada, so that makes sense
that that's where it would be got it. So yeah,

(01:06:37):
we get to hear Hillary's Italian accent. And I will
just say this, not everyone I can't sing, I can't dance.
Not everyone can do dialects. It is a very difficult part.
It takes a lot of practice.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Try to make me do it, and I'm like, no,
i am not trained to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Exactly. A lot of people can't do dialects, and I've
just gonna leave it at that. Isabella is freaking out
now seeing the tabloid. Gordo rushes up to her and
says he can explain. Isabella wants to know everything about
Lizzie and Gordo wants to know everything about Pallo. So
they decide to talk in private. Because this big international
pop star showing up at the airport and just hanging

(01:07:16):
out with Gordo all makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
I will say though, I loved Hillary Duff and Gordo's Sorry,
I don't know the actor's name, but I loved the
scenes that they were in, like you could tell that
those oh they're real chemistry, they're real chemistry, and that
they had a great relationship on camera like they I
loved so even seeing her as Isabella having a scene

(01:07:42):
with Gordo, I did love like their energy, the vibe
between each other, like they were so like her grabbing him,
like you could just tell they were like really good
friends that were.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
And the girl they got to play. Isabella really does
look a lot like Hillary. She really does, which which
is incredible, which is really incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Just really the dark hair is really the only thing
that's like.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
That's all. But we know in the Disney we're in
the world of Disney. Change color your hair, you change
your entire Look. Yep, we're back at the hotel now.
Lizzie is pouting about how selfish she's been and how
she's ruined Gordo's trip. She wants to turn herself into
Miss Ungermeer, but Kate stops her. That'll get her sent home.
Then everything Gordo did will be for nothing. Even animated
Lizzie agrees. That night, Miss Ungermeer is checking on all

(01:08:25):
the students and is tricked by seeing pillows in Lizzie's bed.
It's the oldest trick in the book. But the whole
McGuire family's downstairs barking at Georgio unsuccessfully trying to find
their daughter. But like I said, since she's never really fooled,
Miss Angermeyer arrives to help. She explains that Lizzie has
been sick and takes him up to her room, but
when her mom tries to wake her. They realize it's
just pillows. This is a problem. Miss Ungermeyer goes straight

(01:08:47):
to ethan does he know where she is? And again
repeating a real theme of this movie, he sings like
a canary, mentioning the award shows and filling in for Isabella.
Everybody apparently knows about this. Now on the red carpet,
the press and the fans are going nuts for Polo
and Lizzie or Isabella. We hear another cover, this time
of Superstar by the Carpenter is sung by Haley Duff.
Lizzie trips on the red carpet, causing a quick gasp,

(01:09:09):
but she quickly gets up again. Serious balance problems this
girl has gets.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Up that they did it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
I got it, but she follow This girl falls and
laughs an awful lot for somebody not to check to
see if anything's wrong with her. We are now backstage
at the coliseum. Lizzie is freaking out, but Paolo assures
her she can do it. He says she shines like
a light from the sun. Polo is taken away by producers,
leaving Lizzie alone until Gordo grabs her. He comes to

(01:09:37):
tell her what he's found out Polo is setting her up. Wait,
he's been bad the whole time? What who called that me?
The second I saw him? Then the real Isabella arrives
and says it's actually her he is setting up. And
then in a moment of cinematic history, we get our
two Hillary Duffs looking at each other in one shot.
I was wondering if and when that was gonna happen,
and we get it okay. Gordo explains that Isabella is

(01:10:00):
the one who really sings and writes the music. Polo
is the lip syncer, which Isabella confirms in just the
worst accent ever, it almost sounds Jamaican. Tom is a
little bit. It's it's a again, not everyone could do dialects,
but this is a strange pick.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Yeah, and just forced. It's just another thing that was
just yes, felt like.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Yes, you knowed agreed. The Awards Show performance, it turns out,
is a setup so Lizzie will fail and it will
make Isabella looks like she can't sing, thus destroying her career.
Very convoluted. Lizzie doesn't believe it, Polo would never do
that to her, but Isabella reveals a quote, you shine
like the light from the sun. This proves he's a
con man, using the same lines on everyone. Lizzie is

(01:10:45):
hurt and takes one last look at Paolo, holding back tears.
What was your go to pickup line, Sabrina? What was
the one you would say? To guys? What's your You
shine like the lighte from the sun? Go? What's your
pickup line?

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Why would you think I would have mine?

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
You gotta have one. You don't have a pick up line?

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Come on, No, girls don't have like ooshing line? Oh really,
what do you think it was like? You want to
dance like?

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Oh? See perfect?

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
No, I just say you love it?

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Oh? I love it exactly. I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
What was yours? You had to have a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
I usually just said we have to get home soon,
my mom's picking me up in an hour. That usually
got women all the time. How confused you are? No,
I got nothing. I never had pickup lines. I don't
know pickup lines. My favorite one I ever saw was
my friend you you he licked his finger and you

(01:11:44):
put it on a friend's shoulder, and he said, let's
get out of those wet clothes.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
I thought that one was about it. I would never
work in a million years, but.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
I thought, oh my god, I need them. If I
ever had pickup lines said to me throughout like teens
and twenties, I would get that same reaction you get
from me all the time of I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
To do with my face, just laughing and having no
idea what to do. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
That's how it could not be picked up either, like
I couldn't I couldn't dish it, I couldn't take it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
I'd laugh too. Yeah, yeah, so it Prusy's a con man.
He's using the same lines and everybody. Lizzy's hurt, takes
one last look at Polo and holding back tears. Lizzie
tells Isabella to take her place and sing that'll fix everything,
but Isabella can't she's not blonde. Instead, she wants to
get revenge online TV by making him sing not lip sync,
and just like that, Lizzie is pulled away by a producer,

(01:12:40):
but Isabella promises she has a plan. It seems like
it's a good plan. Meanwhile, the Maguire parents are trying
to enter the award show but getting nowhere with security.
In response, missus Ungermeier growls and kicks the guards out
of the way, letting a whole mob of people into
the event.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Isabella and Gordo talk to the sound guy and Paolo
didn't apply him with any female singing track tonight. So
Isabella's assumptions were right. He was going to embarrass Lizzie.
And that's when the music begins. Lizzie takes the stage
in huge bell bottoms to thousands of people. We get
a very good shot here. To make it look like
it's packed, Isabella instructs the sound guy to turn down
Lizzie's mike all the way, but keep Paolo's up. Now,

(01:13:18):
with both singers on stage, Polo starts the song lip syncing,
and as Lizzie joins in, we hear beautiful singing. It's
Isabella off stage now singing live for her. She's pulled
a fast one on Paolo, and then the sound guy
removes Polo's backing track, exposing his terrible, puberty stricken singing voice,
and the crowd starts laughing as Lizzie continues to reap
Isabella's benefits. The real Isabella eventually walks out on stage,

(01:13:40):
exposing the truth as Paolo gets worse and worse, eventually
walking off stage, Isabella, thanks her new American friend Lizzie McGuire,
and backstage security Sergei grabs Polo. He's mad that Paolo
tried to hurt Lizzie, a very nice girl. He quits,
allowing Polo to get swarm by the press. Now on stage,
Isabella and Lizzie have decided to sing one big number together. Okay,

(01:14:04):
it's okay, okay, if okay, okay, let me okay, let
me try to walk get walked through this maybe okay, okay.
If Lizzie McGuire can sing well enough on stage to
have a duet with this international pop star, why did

(01:14:25):
the international pop star have to sing under Lizzie McGuire
who lip syncs the lyrics if she knew the lyrics
because she's lip synching and can sing, why not just sing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Yeah that part I. Because they also go as far
enough to show us the soundboard right like they're gonna
pull track mike down, she's coming in with another mic
to sing, and then at some point they push her
her vocals up so she is lip syncing right right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
But then they stay on the stage.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Take shover Paolo's lyrics that he's supposed to do, and
then Lizzie's live sinking, right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
No, no, I think they're doing the duet together.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Yeah, but he pushed her vocals up, So wasn't she
lives sinking?

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
I don't know, I don't know. I don't know what's happening. Okay, Yeah,
they're doing it as if Miley and Hannah Montana had
a duet, which is kind of cool. This time, we
don't get too many one shots of them together anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
At one point of the song, Isabella leaves and now
Lizzie is alone. She's terrified. Even animated, Lizzie is terrified.
She tries to run off the stage, but Grdo stops her.
He tells her to stay calm and sing, and so
she does. She gets her own solo in the colisseum,
still swimming in the huge bell bottoms, eventually becoming comfortable.
She sounds great. So she was a good singer the

(01:16:02):
whole time. Why didn't she just sing?

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Yeah? Okay, well, and so then it started making me
think of the first scene that we saw where she's
singing in her bedroom, right, like it's setting up the
idea that Matt is her little brother, is tormenting her
by capturing this. But she also that was Hilary's voice,
so she was actually singing that song. Okay, So I

(01:16:29):
guess that's where kind of that's where the correlation and
everything kind of like lens and you understand. But again
for me, I'm still stuck on the fact that this
was not part of the TV show. So yeah, yeah,
where are we going with this? This wasn't at Pannah Montana,
who's now just.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
It wasn't like it's not that it's like randomly she's
got this great voice and it's going to sing on
at the coliseum, Like No, this is.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
Two thousand and three. Has has Miley size? Has Hannah
Montana started yet in any way show form? Okay? So
they essentially saw this on stage and said we need
to create an entire show this, this is the whole
show is a singer. It seems like they saw this
and this is where Hannah Montana came from.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
And I remember when we were doing Cheetah Girls stuff,
they were talking about like, oh, like doing something kind
of like this, and even with that so raven they
did some kind of musical stuff too, but like the
channel saying like the amount of money it would take
to do all the production and everything for their music
videos and put it on a show just wasn't really
likely and wasn't like something that was just too much

(01:17:36):
for them. So it was like they were seeing where
this could go, and like that's what I was saying,
Like this movie put a good foundation on with the
channel of like where they could take these stars that
are coming to them. The talent that the stars have
is not just acting, where could they go with them?
So that was, you know, somewhat the case.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Okay, all right, well, anyway, there's still more of this movie.
Ethan Kate, miss Ungermeyer, and her family arrive at the
show and are dancing along to the song and loving it.
Miss Ungermier and Serge even give each other a flirty
little wave. She finishes the song perfectly choreographed and bows
to the audience. Isabella comes back out proud of her
new pal and they bow together. They give us one

(01:18:19):
final trick shot of them side by side. It's a
pretty good shot actually, for being honest. Later that night,
Lizzie is surrounded by photographers. She's becoming a star, but
her parents have grounded her for the rest of the summer. Nearby,
Kate is complaining to Ethan, she thinks Lizzie got everything
you're supposed to get in Europe adventure, romance confidence. If
that can happen to Lizzie, then she doesn't know anything.
Ethan says, that's hot. Girls that think they know everything

(01:18:40):
are a turn off. He's impressed she didn't rat out Lizzie,
and then they dig into spaghetti together.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Okay, weird messaging, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Miss Ungermeyer tells Gordo she's disappointed in his constant lies.
He admits his wrongdoings and apologizes, but the principal also
calls him a loyal friend, and loyalty goes along way
with her. Meanwhile, Max is showing people his footage of
Lizzie trying to sell the Hot gossp but Georgio to
him first and says, in Rome, they did not blackmail
their sisters. Then he throws the tape into a fountain
To escape the party, Gordo makes his way to an elevator,

(01:19:07):
but is joined by Lizzie as the door's closing. She
asks for one more getaway for old times sake, and
the two friends find their way back onto the roof.
Lizzie's thinking about staying in Rome since she's finally found
her voice there, but Gorda promises her she doesn't need
to be in Rome to feel confident she had it
the whole time. And then Lizzie kisses Gordo, which I think.
I don't know if it had anything to do with
the show, but it seemed like you just drew it

(01:19:28):
in again. He thanks her, then awkwardly asks her back
to the party. As they return to the hotel, fireworks
go off, signaling in the end of our movie with
animated Lizzie acting as our tinker Bell. Do you think
they end up together?

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
I don't know, but this, literally, that quick of a
kiss was exactly how my first kiss went. It was
like it happened. We looked at each other and then
we're like, got that done with? I've had my first kiss.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Yes, Wow, I love it. I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
I don't know if they end up together, I don't
know either. I would hope. So he's a great guy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Yeah, he could do better, girl, He could do better.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
He could do better.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
He could do better.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
I don't know how. I can't blame Lizzie for thinking,
ho week how I'm in a different country. The magic
is real. This guy, this Superstar of Nowhere likes me like,
I mean, she's young.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
I get it, I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
I don't feel like she was trying to be a
bad friend to him. She wanted to give herself and
she got talked out of it because I get it again,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
According to the producer, it says Gordo has always been
in love with her, so that kiss was everything when
she watched it happen in the third grade. Okay, so
they had built this third grade. Yeah, unreal. Oh wow,

(01:20:56):
let's do some real reviews, and Sabrina, you got the
five star this week.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
I do this is a good five star. I'm actually
like down for this five stars. I think.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Mikayla actually.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
That Jensen just happened to find the best film ever
made in the entire history of human existence. Not only
does it define a generation, but it teaches us to
be ourselves and seek a life of adventure. This, my friends,
is what trains are made. Thank you, maryel Slash. Mikayla.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Yeah, thanks Mikaela for that. I've got the one star review.
And this is by Pedro v or it could be
Pedro five. This might be the fifth Pedro I don't know.
And this it reads as thus, my girlfriend is a
big fan of the Lizzie maguire series. I'm not. She
wanted to see this during summer school and it was
honestly absolute garbage. There is barely any good stuff. And

(01:21:52):
all I can say is that we should have watched
Bugs Life too. I love that. Now we're gonna come
to our favorite part of the program, or at least
Sabrina's favorite part of the program. And that's our feature
for this week. What has producer Jensen set up for us? Well,
here we go. Lizzie MacGuire might just be the best
example of a Disney show becoming a theatrical success with

(01:22:13):
their first movie. We will now get the name of
a TV show. We have to decide if it was
ever turned into a movie, could have been screened in
theaters or just on TV? Three out of five wins, ooh,
let's see okay, number one Chips remember the show, Chips.
You'd never remember the show?

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
You do?

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
Oh? I do?

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
It's with the police cars or the police motorcyclist yight?

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Eric Strada broke, Eric Strada.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, this was a movie.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
This was a movie I think with Dak Shephard you
are correct, yes, yes, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Number two my Favorite Martian. This was a show back
in the day with Oh I can't remember his name.
Ray Walston was in My Favorite Martian Let's stick with
from the fifties. And I'm going to say this was
also a movie, Sabrina.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
Yes, it was in nineteen ninety starring Jeff Daniels and
Christopher Lloyd. Okay, there we go. Number three all in
the family. There's no way they made this in the movie.
I'm gonna say no, No, you're correct, No, Okay. Number
four I won, by the way, I'm alaty Number four,

(01:23:27):
Car fifty four, where are you? I don't they have
made a car old old school cop show. Ok I'm
gonna say no, they never made this into into a movie.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
I'm gonna say no because I don't even believe it
was a show. They did. They did in nineteen ninety
four starring Rosie O'Donnell and Fran Dresher.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Oh my god. Okay, and then number five hilarious elf.
They never made an alf did they? Maybe they made
a movie of the Week. I don't think so. I'm
gonna say no.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
They did in nineteen ninety six, Right a go. They
made it alf movie Jensen will be I again lost?

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
Moving on, can we do some Sabrina Sease?

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
Yeah, I don't have a time that we haven't gone over.
The first thing is the airline that they take over
is Luftanza. That is the airline that would take because
that's when I used anytime we would go over for
the Channel, that's the airline that they always use. So
I did. Yeah, I did like that. That was like,

(01:24:39):
you know, a cool shout out for them because they
are the ones that would take over all the Disney
Channel stars. When they were doing that, it was interesting
to see it being like an older I guess an
older hoteler what was supposed to be because they all
got actual keys. They didn't have key yes, And I
thought I would allow that key so fast if I

(01:25:01):
was on a trip, I would have been paying like whatever,
like the one hundred and fifty dollars you have to
pay for like a brand new key. And then I
did clock that Supermodel cover. Wasn't a fan of that.
One of the things that I did like seeing, you know,
I like looking at the gadgets and stuff and these
pieces I loved the camcorder that I also got to

(01:25:24):
have in one of them says that, and the CD
discman like the that Ethan had. He was like listening
to it. And I love those kinds of things because
it just takes you back. It's just like a nostalgia thing,
like I still have a work discman, do you really?

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
You know what's so funny is thinking of like working
out with a discman, like having.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Too and it would skip. You couldn't run with it
and it would skip around and yes, or.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
You have to find like a place in the gym
where you could put it to do whatever you were doing,
and it wasn't good because like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
Yeah, yeah, gonna if you didn't have that right.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
One thing that really annoyed me, and we talked about
quite a few things that people weren't like picking up
on her when she was supposed to be Isabella and
then also when she was Lizzy was the wig was
like looked like it was about to fall off. So
many times when she was Isabella, that brown leg was
not she didn't look like she had a lace front,
so she didn't have it like sitting on her head.

(01:26:27):
But when they were backstage, they do a quick moment
of the producer when they come to get Lizzy literally
sees Isabella right there, yes, and like like she's backstage.
A lot of it didn't make any sense. That was
just again, it just was kind of just unrealistic and
it was hard to really do that. And then something

(01:26:48):
that happens, and it's with two of our favorite characters,
the bodyguard and the principal, is they at the end
were all speaking in the third person, and that always
cracks me up when people do that. They're like, mss
Ungermeier like this, like the okay, all right, Oh that

(01:27:08):
is it. That is all my That is probably the
look at how many normally I have like normally so
much and I had this this is all I could see.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Well, Will loves that you found that many.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Oh well, Sabrina is grateful for all of appreciation. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
It is now the time of our program where we've
got to rate the movie we just saw and producers dreams,
Yes we do. Let's do one out of ten. I'm
not gonna make a joke about it because it's not
joke worthy. Our options this week are one out of ten.
Accidental naked videos of your sister whoa one of ten
eighth graders alone in another country, pizza, inventing cities, psychotic

(01:27:51):
laughing fits one out of ten in season apricots one
out of ten, threats of blackmail, and a kid's movie
Go Kart Cars, Hillary Duff, Italian accents one out of ten,
singing canaries or one out of ten huge bell bottoms.
Do I pick or do you pick? This week? This time,
I think I'm gonna do. Psychotic laughing fits is what

(01:28:15):
I'm going to pick.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
Every By the way, It's gonna be hilarious, and I
hope people actually hear. Every time you bring it up,
I end.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
Up laughing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Because it's because I noticed it too. Why is she
just always by the way before by you this entire
every episode, I'm laughing the whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
My cheeks hurt after me too, My whole my whole
head hurts. Right now, before before we get into how
many psychotic laughing fits, I'd like to point out that
producer MICHAELA literally just wrote, watch yourself. I know it's
never going to come back on she I'm telling you again,
you know how long it took for her to talk
to me again after double teamed. That's why I started
it this way. Okay, you go first, or do I

(01:29:00):
go first? I think you go first.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
I think I do go first. So again, this was
a movie that was hard for me because of quite
a few things, mainly one because I was a fan
of the TV show, so I was and I do
not remember actually watching this movie except for that end

(01:29:22):
final performance. I remember that, and that was it. I
didn't remember that there was a second Hillary duff in
it with the Isabella character. I didn't remember any of
that stuff, So I don't think I watched it. That
being said, I was expecting a longer version of the
of an episode, right. I wasn't like thinking we were
going to add in all these extra things, being a

(01:29:46):
part of the channel, knowing that there was an opportunity
for them to kind of showcase another country, to showcase
the talent of their incredible actor. You know that kind
of stuff. I get it, I get it. I get
at the I know to how much Hillary was pushing
for that next level and that next stage of her career.

(01:30:09):
This just to me hit missed the mark and it
although I do believe and want to give it the
credit of being a very good foundation of what was
get to come within the next like five six years
of the channel. Yeah, this definitely had that, This had
that that foundation, but it just this was not and again,

(01:30:31):
this is what I felt about when we watched the
first Cheetah Girls. We hadn't found that stride the first movie.
In the second movie was very different. Yeah, the channel
learned through the first Cheetah Girls then with high school
musical like so they were building. So this was definitely
the foundation of the build. And you know, even that
though the holes in the storyline, the things that just

(01:30:54):
didn't make sense, and unfortunately the things that I just
felt were just being put they were being Yeah, they
were being forced, and it didn't This wasn't to me
Lizzie McGuire. I'm gonna say Lizzy McGuire, not Hillary Duff.
I'm gonna say this wasn't the best representation of Lizzie
McGuire for me. Okay, And that would take me too.

(01:31:19):
Because I still love the show. I'm gonna give it
a little bit of a boost, but it's gonna be
a six point five.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Oh wow, you are way more generous than I am.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Yeah, six point five psychotic laughing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
Okay, that hurts.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
It hurts because I love Lizzie McGuire. This is so rough. Yeah,
just do only just do that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
I knew nothing of Lizzie McGuire. I knew the name.
I didn't know anything about the show. But the idea
that all of a sudden she's a singer didn't make
a whole lot of sense. Some of the accents were
not great. Some of the storyline of now she's American,
none of it. A lot of it just didn't make
any sense to me. Again, Hillary Duff, you can tell

(01:32:02):
the kids lover, she's a star, you know, all that
kind of stuff. The Jake Thomas very funny. You know,
it's a tropy little brother that's but you know they're.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Fine coming to Europe.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
Didn't make any sense. It just a lot of it
just didn't. It was story for me. This story did
not make any sense. Even got super convoluted at the
end about well, we're gonna want you to lip sync,
but you're not gonna lip sync, but he's gonna it.
Just it was all over the place, and I think,
i'm i'm, I'm I'm saying this when I say it.
When I say it's a movie, it's I just saw movie.

(01:32:36):
And when I say I just saw a movie that
means it's right down the middle, and I'm giving this
five psychotic laughing fits. It's just I didn't get it.
That's the thing. So the Even Stephens movie, the Even
Stephens movie with the story of the Even Stevens movie,
it's absurd, it's outlandish. Of course it is. They're on
a reality show there. It's crazy. But when I finished

(01:32:56):
the Even Stephens.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
Movie, they're saying a month after this, by the okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
When I finished Even Stevens movie, I finished going like
I could see going back and watching the show, Like
I liked the relationship between the characters. I thought Shy
I was great. I thought Christy was great. I could
absolutely see going back and watching the show. I finished
the Lizzie McGuire movie, and I was like, I don't
ever need to watch the Lizzie McGuire show. I didn't.
And again, I know that's not fair to the show,

(01:33:26):
because the show is probably very good.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
It was, and it was, I mean, it was. It
was so perfect Disney Channel at the time of the time.
It really was. It was so good, and this just
this wasn't the representation. I feel like, yeah, this is just.

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
It was very all over the place, just story wise,
very all over the place. So yeah, this is this
was not my favorite. Again we're coming off of I
think the last one we saw was Horse Sense, which
was great. Yeah, and again I know we're not we're
not trying to to compare one or the other, but
we're literally comparing one of the other. That's what we do.
That's our job on this on this podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
And you look at something like Horse Sense and then
you look at something like this, it's two completely different things.
You know, it's just and I it's based on existing
ip so you figure they're going to try to stay
true to the characters a little bit. But then I
find out they get rid of one of the main characters.
They slot in another character. They now she's a singer
and she's playing multiple characters. It just it seemed like

(01:34:29):
there was way too much. It was three movies mashed
into one.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
Right, Yes, yes, yeah, I mean I will say though
too though, being like somebody who I feel benefited from
this foundation that was met sure with the music and
the that whole idea of being a superstar and that
whole thing. I'm somebody who benefited from the start that
was this movie for sure. It still just was. It

(01:34:54):
was hard to watch, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
It was them on stage together, them on stage together,
her and then her, Isabella and Lizzie on stage together.
Somebody saw that and created Hannah Montana. I mean clearly
they went, this needs to be a show, and then
they did it the right way for Hannah Montana, where
it seemed like it was just thrown into the movie.

(01:35:18):
But anyway, okay, well there's there's our come after me.
I know you're gonna come on, come on, come after me, slaughter.
If you come after me, you also have to come
after my tiny little animated character that follows me around everywhere.
And don't think I don't have one. And yes, slaughter away,
because I stand by what I said.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
Our next episode, we're jumping out of format a little bit,
but for a very good reason, and we're really excited.
We're finally doing it. We are sitting down to watch
the infamous Disney Channel Games. Yes, we'll we recapping season
three of the games. Yes, the ones were my love Yes,
the one where my lovely co host competed and compete.
She did, you did too, But this was pretty impressive.

(01:35:59):
All episodes of the season, because they're the only ones
that are actually on Disney Plus are the season that
came out the third season last season, which was eight.
So all five are real. All five are available to
stream on Disney Plus. So pick a team and ride
or die with him before we cover it next week.
It's gonna be important. But before we dive into that obstacle, course,
we're gonna stay with our pal Lizzy, well more specifically

(01:36:21):
her brother. Yes, as I said, we talked to Jake
Thomas Matt McGuire himself. He gave us all the scoop
about this legendary Disney property. Listen to this little small
sample of our conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
Hey, if you wanna if you were really be let down.
I never went to Rome. I have never been to Italy.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
What, yes you have? I saw in the movie you
were on the I watched it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
You were in the hotel.

Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
Really, so where did you shoot that?

Speaker 3 (01:36:47):
Your dad's all here in La Vancouver, which I love Vancouver.
I spent we spent I think probably two or three
months in Vancouver, and I absolutely love Vancouver.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
Okay, it's a beautiful place, but is not Rome. You
should one hundred percent check that out Jake Rules. He
was so cool. Just search for our dedicated Magical Rewind
feed wherever you get your podcasts. We've got tons of
interviews with the sort of Disney legends and from ore info.
You can follow us at Magical Rewind Pod on Instagram,
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(01:37:17):
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