September 28, 2024 • 26 mins
This week, an interview with Chanté Griffin, author of “Loving Your Black Neighbor as Yourself”
Plus, Malik caught up with bilingual actress and entrepreneur Yvonne Senat Jones!
And Amber Grimes interviews Wallo267, who spent twenty years in and out of the prison system before restarting his life…about his new book “Armed with Good Intentions”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
League has all the knowledge you want.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
League has all the knowledge you need.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Yeah, they have all the books that the whole wild
world one up reads. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to Malie's bookshep
bringing a world together with books.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Culture and community.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hi, my name is Malik, your host Malik's Bookshelf.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Another eventful week.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
We had three book signings in one week at Malik
Books at the Westfield Coche City Mall. And it don't
stop from there because we have some community events such
as the Orange Coast County children Book Festival. So we
got a tremendous week that we're coming off.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Of community, books, culture.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
But let me say this, Malie Books mission and aim
is to change the world one book at a time.
We breaking out the book more bill this week at
the occ Children's Book Festival.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
We gonna have.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
About seven eight authors with us, so we excited about that.
But I do have some upcoming events that already took
place that I wanna feature on this up episode. I
was able to interview Chante Griffin, who wrote the book
Loving Your Black Neighbor as Yourself. Quite interesting, but it's
(01:41):
her take. It's her take on how to heal, how
to work together, how people can embrace each other, you know,
the god the rules, treat others like you wanna treat yourself. Well,
it's kind of like, you know, loving your black neighbor
as yourself basically, you know it is it's everyone taking
(02:05):
the initiative to embrace their neighbor, their community, and to
be able to work together in a collective miner for
the sake of the neighborhood, the sake of the community,
sake of the nation, and so forth. But I'm gonna
let Shaun Tate break down her book. No one can
tell you more about their book than they ought to.
Always say. Also, I'm a feature the interview I took
(02:28):
with Yvonne Sanai Jones.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Who's the moderator.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Other she's a bilingual actress and an entrepreneur, So I'm
gonna interview her and let her talk about her background
and what she's doing as an actress, because you know,
actress are the ultimate storytellers.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You know, they make stories come alive.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
So these are some of the things that I plan
on featuring on I'm a feature on this particular episode.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And one more.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Segment I want to feature on this podcast is Wallow
two six seven was at Malik Books. Woo. Was that
a wonderful event, But I got a chance. I didn't
moderate the event, Amma Grimes moderate the event.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
The book that came out, the new book that Wallowed
two six seven just released and the New York Times
bestseller his first week, Armed with Good Intentions, A very
powerful book, a very moving, touching, inspirational book. Wallow is
(03:44):
a brother that spent the twenty years in jail, came
out and believed in himself, believed in the fact that
a person can have a second chance. I think he
went in at seventeen, came out at thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
He's now on forty four and.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
He has come out running NonStop. He's amassed millions of
followers as an infloor on social media, and it's all
about inspiring.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Telling people to wake up, believe in yourself, get going.
No one's promised tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Listen, he said in himself at the event, and he
was like, look, nobody owe him nothing. Nobody owes him nothing.
And he believes in accountability and he's straight short. He
speaks the language of the streets, he speaks the language
of the people. I mean, it's a lot of us
come out of the streets a lot of us to speak.
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It's a different language. I always believe it, always believe
that God always sends someone speaking the language of the people.
So it's a lot of people in our community hip hop,
their street and whatever the case is, someone has to
speak their language. They're not gonna you know, leaders like
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President Obama when he was president, or Trump when he's president,
when who else? Biden when he spreading a lot of
these people. You know, they speak to a large group
of people, but it's a lot of people that just
don't hear him.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
They don't.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
They no matter what they say or what they do,
they don't penetrate the streets.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Maybe their policies do, but them as a leader don't.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
And sometimes people like a Wallow who speaks the language
of the streets, and he talks in a way.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That they can relate.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
You know, they not talking all intellectual, but they talking
in a manner that they can understand and they can
hear it. Because everybody is a lot. But do you
got the key to unlock them? That's I always say that.
And so some of us are heard differently, and so Wallo,
you know, he speaks the language of the streets. This
brother came out of jail, you know, spent twenty years,
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you know, in the four corners. But he didn't come
out with a hand held out. He came out giving out.
And he came out sprinting and running. And he came
out making with a movement, with an idea as an entrepreneur.
And he came out running as a sprint And all
(06:42):
I'm saying is armed with good intentions.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Telling his story is giving you insight to change. Start
with you, and that's what bottom line is.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
And you got to be accountable for your actions and
stop acting like somebody owe you something, whatever cars you
deal with.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And you know, all he knew.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Was the streets people around him was the streets. He
got caught up in the streets. But he allowed changes
to come about in his life to help change the streets.
So the brother got millions and millions and millions of followers.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
A lot of people know them.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Elie books was packed from the back to the front.
Wallow dropped some knowledge, some inside. I think the biggest
thing that I took away. Now I got a chance
to talk to him for myself while he's there, and
I always try to do that.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Give me a couple of few minutes, give me a
few minutes.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
If you at Elie books, I'm not moderating, But if
I got you, I'm gonna come. Ay, let's go to
the back. Brothers all to the front. Let me ask
you a few questions from my audience on Malik's bookshelf,
bringing a world together with books, culture and community. But
let me tell you the thing that I thought this
stuck out the most. He said a lot. The brother
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ain't shot on words. He's electric, he's passionate, he's powerful.
Let me tell you though it. You know I'm not
as eloquent as him, and certainly I don't know the
language he knows to read that group of people. But
you know, I you know, the language that I speak
(08:28):
touches certain people in a certain way.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But I'll tell you this my takeaway.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
The thing that's stuck out the most is when he
said that.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
They spent a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Of money to market death and destruction and for people
to make bad decisions. That there's a billions of dollars
of spent to create you know, because he mentioned how
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certain icons in our community, like criminals.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Al Campone.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Gotdi all these gangsters they glorified and our people know
a lot of these mafia and gangsters and people who
and former criminals or whatever. A lot of people in
the community, Black community, Hispanish community, they know a lot
(09:33):
of these people El Choppo and all that. But they
couldn't tell you all the presidents of the United States,
or at least if you ask them, give me ten
president of the United States couldn't tell you.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
They tell you ten high profile criminals. So he said,
why is that?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Because marketing, marketing, And I thought that start out the
most of me, because and I analyzed that, it's lot
of money spent to market death and destructions all across
these cities and all across this nation. How much money
is spent to make the wrong de eat the wrong foods?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
How much how much advertisement goes.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Into promoting sugary foods and drinks that ain't doing nothing
but cause health problems? How many things are marketed to
create licensius bib or having sex without responsibility? People are
you know, no protection and so forth, like person get pregnant.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
What you're gonna do? Can you you a child? You're
a teenager.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
You ain't making no money, you ain't got no career.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
You know what I'm saying, so, how much when you
look at these commercials, when you look at a lot
of things, how much money is spent on you making
wrong decisions, wrong choices, and ultimately affecting your life.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
In a negative way, Drinking drugs, all of these things,
Wasting your time on activities that don't enrich you. How
many hours a day do you spend watching football and
basketball in sports versus investing in yourself to make yourself successful,
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to make the kind of money of the people that
you sit.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Up and watch all day. These are the coin I.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Said, Man, A lot of money is spent marketing death
and destruction and self sabotaging to create self sabotaging behavior.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
So I was interested. I mean, that point to me
stood out in.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
The insightful conversation that took place between Wallow two sixty
seven and Amber Grimes. And so I was intrigued by that,
and I, you know, to analyze that. But I got
a chance, like I said, to interview him, ask him
a few questions. It was interactive while people were still
in the store and he was signing books. So you know,
(11:57):
some you know, there might be a break here and
a break there. But nevertheless, it's all organic, it's all
not it's not scripted, just me, you know, being me
and talking to Wallow and him giving me his insight
about his new book, arm with good intentions. So anyway,
let me let this episode begin to roll, all right,
(12:18):
please thank you.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I got a special guest.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
She's gonna do an event today right here at Maligue Books.
You know, I gotta get just a few minutes just
to her to tell you about her book, Loving Your
Black Neighbor As Yourself. Her name and author is Chantay Griffin.
How you doing, Schantae, good, good, good good. I'm wonderful.
So let's get right into it. No one can tell
(12:45):
you about the book more than the author, So please
tell us.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
About your book.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Loving your Black Neighbor As Yourself is a book straight
from the heart of God. Martin Luther King was a
prophet who came to this kind that said, all of
God's children deserve to be free, all of God's children
deserves civil rights, all of God's children deserve education and
great housing and economic opportunity. So this book is taking
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us back to the heart of King's message and saying,
what is stopping you externally and internally from loving your
black neighbor as yourself.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
This book gives you the tools.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
To break through those barriers and love the way God intended.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
You to love. Wow, you know what. I love that
because I always use this analogy.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
The sun rises every day and it shines on everyone
on the whole planet, which me is an analogy of
every day as a new day. But more importantly, God's
gift is given to everyone. And so when you said
what you said about the Martin Luther King and about
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loving your neighbor, your black neighbor as yourself, I thought
about that as an a knowledge. So what are some
of the highlighted points the best chapter of your book?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
All of them.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
No, what we do in the book is we take
this concept of the love languages, right, this is how
different people give and receive love. We flip the script
and we say these are cultural love lenses. How do
African American communities give and receive love? So I actually
created five love lenses, and this is how Black folks
give and receive love. Number one intimacy community, right, we
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always want to be together. Number two honor and respect.
Don't disrespect us. You don't want to see that. Number
Three God's gives resources. We're always giving given to the community,
giving to the next generation. Right number four, stand up,
we're speaking up. We're standing up for righteousness, for justice
for ourselves. And then lastly we're praying people.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
We're gonna pray over you.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
We're gonna pray for you. God bless your heart. So
I talk about how you can love black community, these
and black people the way we're already loving each other
because we love.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Each other doing it by nature, like a spider spenser
of web, not because it read a book, but because
it comes out to nature.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
You know what I'm saying, what's in us just got to.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Come out, you know with some of the most soulful,
joyful people.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Want to play.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
They write books about, you know, how we can find
joy in the midst of oppression and sorrow.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Why is your book important?
Speaker 5 (15:27):
It's important because we're living in an age where people
are trying to take us back. They're trying to take
the civil rights legislation that was meant to protect and
uplift black people and say that now we're discriminated against
non black people. So this book is important because it
shows you how we can love politically, how we can
love relationally and how we can love holistically and with
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our dollars.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Wow wow, wow.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Now you heard it first hand from Jaunty Griffin, who's
going to be doing an event today right here at
Malik Books in the Westfield, Co City Mall.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So thank you. Tell people how they can find you.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
As we close this off, you go, Shante. Sometimes you
got to encourage yourself website, Instagram, Facebook, you go, Shante
y O, you g O C H A N t E.
You go, Chante find me there.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Thank you, Chante.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Malik's Bookshelf bringing a world together with books, culture and
community change in the world with one book at a time.
I have Yvonne Snai Jones, a bilingual actress. She's gonna
be moderating the event today with Chantey Griffin, who authored
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the book Loving Your Black Neighbor As Yourself.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Welcome, Yvonne.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Tell my audience at Malie's Bookshelf why reading is so important.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
Oh, it's foundational. It's foundational. You can and go to
different places. You can learn things that you never knew
that aren't going to be learned in school, and you
can write and then you can share your own thoughts
to other people.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So it's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
You know, I came across a stat they said, forty
five million Americans are illiterate.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
What we're gonna do about that?
Speaker 6 (17:19):
I think more events like these get some more good
books that don't want to read, right, you know?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
You know, for there was a time in America where
we were denied the right to read and write.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And that's why reading it's important.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Because it's transformative, it's empowering. And anything you can find
you can find in a book. Now your actress, and
you know, so you know how to make stories interactive
and coming along?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Tell us all about that.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Well, that is actually what drew me to acting, is
my imagination. I was an only child until my brother
was born right about ten years old for me, so
it was just me and stories and acting them out
in the backyard. And I loved books as a kid.
That was my mom would take me to the library.
That was the first place I got to walk all
by myself, so it's a big deal. And I would
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go and I would check out books and I would
gobble them up, and then the next week I would
get more. So I'm very blessed to be able to
have had that kind of experience.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Wonderful, wonderful.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Now you shared with me that you have a production company, entrepreneur.
We living in a time where it's very important to
do for self and be resourceful. Now I believe it
is your husband's standing right here and life. Tell me
all about your production company.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You were based out of southern California, focusing on media production, video,
MFB entertainment, my father's business, and so we just love
to to really support whatever the vision is. We came
out today to support Sante in this book release and
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capture this wonderful moment. So it's always a pleasure to
take the skills God to bless you with and capture
the moments that matter to people.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
We're making history today. We are at Malique Books. We're
going to be starting an event in a few minutes,
and they are here to immortalize this event.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
You know, social media's like that.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Back in the day, they used to say, if you
don't have a business card, you ain't got a business.
Now on days, you ain't got a social media you
don't have a business. So we want to, you know,
capture the moment and any final thoughts about your production
company you would like to share.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
My brother, oh, Yeah, you could check us out at
www dot NFB entertainment dot com. That's n FB my
father's bi business entertainment dot com.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Thank you both for sharing your business and about yourself
to my podcast, Elik Bookshell.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Thank you you, Malik for providing this resource for our community.
It's that itself is going to be immortalized because you've
already touched so many people by these opportunities and it's
just going to keep going and those experiences they're changing lives.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Thank you, Thank you, appreciate y'all.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I can't let you leave without getting a few sound
bites from a podcast, Malik's Bookshelf Bringing the World Together
with Malik with Books, Culture and Community Wallow two six
seven at Malie Books. Man questions Yep, well hey amor
good intentions, it's your new book, break it down because
you know your book better than anybody else.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
Home, Well, good attentions to the book to show people
the similarities of the struggles that take place when you're
growing up trying to figure out life and you adult
you trying to figure out life. But I just want
to see people to see the similarities of the struggles
that I went through. But I never gave up on
myself and I got through on the other side. And
when you don't give up on yourself, there an example
of what can happen. The possibilities is endless, endless.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Well, you know, brother, one thing that stood out to
me was when you talked about marketing.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Marketing is everything.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Market is anything one thing that's that's something you do
because you're not afraid to get out of market your brand.
You're not afraid to do videos and talk about my
elige books. You're not afraid to do none of that.
If I'm you, I'm doing today day, I'm getting worried
out about books. I'm pulling up at events where you
know books is necessary or whatever, and I'm just gonna
keep it alive. But uh, you gotta market your product.
Nobody can market your product more than you. Because you
know your product. They don't know it. You're trying to
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get them to know it. In order to get them
to know it, you gotta tell them.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
About it, and he'll be too cool. Yeah, and people
be too cool. You know, brother, how.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Much money do you think they spend to keep people
believing that they can't be all they can be a
lot of money now building its brother.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
They spend a lot of money because you know, it's
just so much doubt in the air. They mark it
out out here. Doubt is marketed, so you.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Know a lot of people can't rise above.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
They talk about prisons, but the biggest prison is the mind.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
It is because you know, it's like people be locking
their own people be incarcerating their mind and don't believe
that they can move. They could do this and that,
and it's like you've done once you do that, like
most of the game. You know, it's the mind. The
mind game is anything man. And if you shut your
mind down of what you can do and what you
can't do.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
You trouble. You're in trouble, them in trouble.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
You know, always say change your thoughts, change your life.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
You can change everything. You know, if you could change
the thoughts, you could change the world.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, yeah, they did us.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I think it was.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
The Dell KONNECKI commission Napoleon Hill to study success. And
you know he wrote a series of books, Think and
Grow Rich, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
He was a think of rich. I think that was
a prison classic.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Yes, I mean we're in the years and decades and
decades ago and is still it's.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Still that relevant.
Speaker 7 (23:11):
It's still that it's still it's still major.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
You know, go ahead, he wrote. He wrote one called
the Lass of Success. He wrote a lot and deal.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Kage has commissioned him to do this study. But most
of what he wrote was how the minds work.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
How to be successful.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
You gotta believe you can be successful to be successful.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
You see, you heard what I said. You got to
become a millionaire before you can become a millionaire.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yes, yes, I always say fake it till you make it.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
Yeah, yeah, you gotta do that.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
What what what?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
What was the spark that change you?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Brother? Butid I mean something that had to enlighten you
to get on this course?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Did you become right now?
Speaker 7 (23:52):
I got tired of losing, Malik, you know, for the
streets that had you thinking you winning the whole time
you're losing.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
You know. I was always told this story there was
a donkey that fell in the ditch and everybody walked
by through a stone, and so many stones were down
in the ditch that the donkey walked out.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Damn. That's crazy, you know, Meaning.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
That every knock is a boost, Losing is sometimes winning.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So you got tired of losing.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
And what's some of the steps you took to begin
in your mind winning?
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Accountability?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Countability, that's everything, break it down.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
You know, you got to be countable for your bullshit,
all the stuff you lack, ad the you know, lack
of discipline, not staying on course, looking all over the place.
You got to be accountable that you where you are
based off of your actions.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
You can't blame nobody.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
For your shit out here. You got nothing but a
bunch of victims. Oh I ain't here because of them.
They ain't put me on. Ain't no what you ain't
do for you? People don't want to look at America.
And that's that's why a lot of people, you know,
they don't want to be countable. Looking at America is
a scary thing.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Wow, countability, Look in the mirror, accept the truth.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
So what are your what's some of the tips to
help a person?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Because I look at people and I said this to
Tim Ross when he was here. I said that everybody
is a lock and some of the locks got rusted
on them, and so who.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Has the master key?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Because to open up them rusty locks?
Speaker 7 (25:24):
You, Yes, it's yourself. Is your mind, is your body's
the spirit is your energy, you know. But a lot
of people they just it's hard to believe in self.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Change begins with self.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah, so many of us doubt ourselves, don't believe in ourselves.
But you wrote a book called Armed with Good Intentions
to change the game, to change how people think. And
what do you want people to take away from this book?
Speaker 7 (25:53):
I just want you to see the similarities of the
struggle in the ups and downs of life that I
went through and you've probably gone through. And I just
ain't never give up. You can't give up.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Well you heard it live at Malik Books. Follow two
six seven.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Thank you, my brother, appreciate you. Thanks for listening to
Malik's bookshelf, where topics on the shelf are books, culture,
and communities.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Be sure to subscribe and leave me a review. Check
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
League has all the knowledge you need.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Yeah, they have all the books that the whole wild
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Culture and community.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hi, my name is Malik, your host Malik's Bookshelf.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Another eventful week.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
We had three book signings in one week at Malik
Books at the Westfield Coche City Mall. And it don't
stop from there because we have some community events such
as the Orange Coast County children Book Festival. So we
got a tremendous week that we're coming off.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Of community, books, culture.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
But let me say this, Malie Books mission and aim
is to change the world one book at a time.
We breaking out the book more bill this week at
the occ Children's Book Festival.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
We gonna have.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
About seven eight authors with us, so we excited about that.
But I do have some upcoming events that already took
place that I wanna feature on this up episode. I
was able to interview Chante Griffin, who wrote the book
Loving Your Black Neighbor as Yourself. Quite interesting, but it's
(01:41):
her take. It's her take on how to heal, how
to work together, how people can embrace each other, you know,
the god the rules, treat others like you wanna treat yourself. Well,
it's kind of like, you know, loving your black neighbor
as yourself basically, you know it is it's everyone taking
(02:05):
the initiative to embrace their neighbor, their community, and to
be able to work together in a collective miner for
the sake of the neighborhood, the sake of the community,
sake of the nation, and so forth. But I'm gonna
let Shaun Tate break down her book. No one can
tell you more about their book than they ought to.
Always say. Also, I'm a feature the interview I took
(02:28):
with Yvonne Sanai Jones.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Who's the moderator.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Other she's a bilingual actress and an entrepreneur, So I'm
gonna interview her and let her talk about her background
and what she's doing as an actress, because you know,
actress are the ultimate storytellers.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
You know, they make stories come alive.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
So these are some of the things that I plan
on featuring on I'm a feature on this particular episode.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And one more.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Segment I want to feature on this podcast is Wallow
two six seven was at Malik Books. Woo. Was that
a wonderful event, But I got a chance. I didn't
moderate the event, Amma Grimes moderate the event.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
The book that came out, the new book that Wallowed
two six seven just released and the New York Times
bestseller his first week, Armed with Good Intentions, A very
powerful book, a very moving, touching, inspirational book. Wallow is
(03:44):
a brother that spent the twenty years in jail, came
out and believed in himself, believed in the fact that
a person can have a second chance. I think he
went in at seventeen, came out at thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
He's now on forty four and.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
He has come out running NonStop. He's amassed millions of
followers as an infloor on social media, and it's all
about inspiring.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Telling people to wake up, believe in yourself, get going.
No one's promised tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Listen, he said in himself at the event, and he
was like, look, nobody owe him nothing. Nobody owes him nothing.
And he believes in accountability and he's straight short. He
speaks the language of the streets, he speaks the language
of the people. I mean, it's a lot of us
come out of the streets a lot of us to speak.
(04:55):
It's a different language. I always believe it, always believe
that God always sends someone speaking the language of the people.
So it's a lot of people in our community hip hop,
their street and whatever the case is, someone has to
speak their language. They're not gonna you know, leaders like
(05:16):
President Obama when he was president, or Trump when he's president,
when who else? Biden when he spreading a lot of
these people. You know, they speak to a large group
of people, but it's a lot of people that just
don't hear him.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
They don't.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
They no matter what they say or what they do,
they don't penetrate the streets.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Maybe their policies do, but them as a leader don't.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
And sometimes people like a Wallow who speaks the language
of the streets, and he talks in a way.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That they can relate.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
You know, they not talking all intellectual, but they talking
in a manner that they can understand and they can
hear it. Because everybody is a lot. But do you
got the key to unlock them? That's I always say that.
And so some of us are heard differently, and so Wallo,
you know, he speaks the language of the streets. This
brother came out of jail, you know, spent twenty years,
(06:20):
you know, in the four corners. But he didn't come
out with a hand held out. He came out giving out.
And he came out sprinting and running. And he came
out making with a movement, with an idea as an entrepreneur.
And he came out running as a sprint And all
(06:42):
I'm saying is armed with good intentions.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Telling his story is giving you insight to change. Start
with you, and that's what bottom line is.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
And you got to be accountable for your actions and
stop acting like somebody owe you something, whatever cars you
deal with.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And you know, all he knew.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Was the streets people around him was the streets. He
got caught up in the streets. But he allowed changes
to come about in his life to help change the streets.
So the brother got millions and millions and millions of followers.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
A lot of people know them.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Elie books was packed from the back to the front.
Wallow dropped some knowledge, some inside. I think the biggest
thing that I took away. Now I got a chance
to talk to him for myself while he's there, and
I always try to do that.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Give me a couple of few minutes, give me a
few minutes.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
If you at Elie books, I'm not moderating, But if
I got you, I'm gonna come. Ay, let's go to
the back. Brothers all to the front. Let me ask
you a few questions from my audience on Malik's bookshelf,
bringing a world together with books, culture and community. But
let me tell you the thing that I thought this
stuck out the most. He said a lot. The brother
(08:07):
ain't shot on words. He's electric, he's passionate, he's powerful.
Let me tell you though it. You know I'm not
as eloquent as him, and certainly I don't know the
language he knows to read that group of people. But
you know, I you know, the language that I speak
(08:28):
touches certain people in a certain way.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But I'll tell you this my takeaway.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
The thing that's stuck out the most is when he
said that.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
They spent a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Of money to market death and destruction and for people
to make bad decisions. That there's a billions of dollars
of spent to create you know, because he mentioned how
(09:03):
certain icons in our community, like criminals.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Al Campone.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Gotdi all these gangsters they glorified and our people know
a lot of these mafia and gangsters and people who
and former criminals or whatever. A lot of people in
the community, Black community, Hispanish community, they know a lot
(09:33):
of these people El Choppo and all that. But they
couldn't tell you all the presidents of the United States,
or at least if you ask them, give me ten
president of the United States couldn't tell you.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
They tell you ten high profile criminals. So he said,
why is that?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Because marketing, marketing, And I thought that start out the
most of me, because and I analyzed that, it's lot
of money spent to market death and destructions all across
these cities and all across this nation. How much money
is spent to make the wrong de eat the wrong foods?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
How much how much advertisement goes.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Into promoting sugary foods and drinks that ain't doing nothing
but cause health problems? How many things are marketed to
create licensius bib or having sex without responsibility? People are
you know, no protection and so forth, like person get pregnant.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
What you're gonna do? Can you you a child? You're
a teenager.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
You ain't making no money, you ain't got no career.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
You know what I'm saying, so, how much when you
look at these commercials, when you look at a lot
of things, how much money is spent on you making
wrong decisions, wrong choices, and ultimately affecting your life.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
In a negative way, Drinking drugs, all of these things,
Wasting your time on activities that don't enrich you. How
many hours a day do you spend watching football and
basketball in sports versus investing in yourself to make yourself successful,
(11:13):
to make the kind of money of the people that
you sit.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Up and watch all day. These are the coin I.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Said, Man, A lot of money is spent marketing death
and destruction and self sabotaging to create self sabotaging behavior.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
So I was interested. I mean, that point to me
stood out in.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
The insightful conversation that took place between Wallow two sixty
seven and Amber Grimes. And so I was intrigued by that,
and I, you know, to analyze that. But I got
a chance, like I said, to interview him, ask him
a few questions. It was interactive while people were still
in the store and he was signing books. So you know,
(11:57):
some you know, there might be a break here and
a break there. But nevertheless, it's all organic, it's all
not it's not scripted, just me, you know, being me
and talking to Wallow and him giving me his insight
about his new book, arm with good intentions. So anyway,
let me let this episode begin to roll, all right,
(12:18):
please thank you.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I got a special guest.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
She's gonna do an event today right here at Maligue Books.
You know, I gotta get just a few minutes just
to her to tell you about her book, Loving Your
Black Neighbor As Yourself. Her name and author is Chantay Griffin.
How you doing, Schantae, good, good, good good. I'm wonderful.
So let's get right into it. No one can tell
(12:45):
you about the book more than the author, So please
tell us.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
About your book.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Loving your Black Neighbor As Yourself is a book straight
from the heart of God. Martin Luther King was a
prophet who came to this kind that said, all of
God's children deserve to be free, all of God's children
deserves civil rights, all of God's children deserve education and
great housing and economic opportunity. So this book is taking
(13:13):
us back to the heart of King's message and saying,
what is stopping you externally and internally from loving your
black neighbor as yourself.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
This book gives you the tools.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
To break through those barriers and love the way God intended.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
You to love. Wow, you know what. I love that
because I always use this analogy.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
The sun rises every day and it shines on everyone
on the whole planet, which me is an analogy of
every day as a new day. But more importantly, God's
gift is given to everyone. And so when you said
what you said about the Martin Luther King and about
(13:53):
loving your neighbor, your black neighbor as yourself, I thought
about that as an a knowledge. So what are some
of the highlighted points the best chapter of your book?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
All of them.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
No, what we do in the book is we take
this concept of the love languages, right, this is how
different people give and receive love. We flip the script
and we say these are cultural love lenses. How do
African American communities give and receive love? So I actually
created five love lenses, and this is how Black folks
give and receive love. Number one intimacy community, right, we
(14:30):
always want to be together. Number two honor and respect.
Don't disrespect us. You don't want to see that. Number
Three God's gives resources. We're always giving given to the community,
giving to the next generation. Right number four, stand up,
we're speaking up. We're standing up for righteousness, for justice
for ourselves. And then lastly we're praying people.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
We're gonna pray over you.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
We're gonna pray for you. God bless your heart. So
I talk about how you can love black community, these
and black people the way we're already loving each other
because we love.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Each other doing it by nature, like a spider spenser
of web, not because it read a book, but because
it comes out to nature.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
You know what I'm saying, what's in us just got to.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Come out, you know with some of the most soulful,
joyful people.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Want to play.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
They write books about, you know, how we can find
joy in the midst of oppression and sorrow.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Why is your book important?
Speaker 5 (15:27):
It's important because we're living in an age where people
are trying to take us back. They're trying to take
the civil rights legislation that was meant to protect and
uplift black people and say that now we're discriminated against
non black people. So this book is important because it
shows you how we can love politically, how we can
love relationally and how we can love holistically and with
(15:49):
our dollars.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Wow wow, wow.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Now you heard it first hand from Jaunty Griffin, who's
going to be doing an event today right here at
Malik Books in the Westfield, Co City Mall.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So thank you. Tell people how they can find you.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
As we close this off, you go, Shante. Sometimes you
got to encourage yourself website, Instagram, Facebook, you go, Shante
y O, you g O C H A N t E.
You go, Chante find me there.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Thank you, Chante.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Malik's Bookshelf bringing a world together with books, culture and
community change in the world with one book at a time.
I have Yvonne Snai Jones, a bilingual actress. She's gonna
be moderating the event today with Chantey Griffin, who authored
(16:44):
the book Loving Your Black Neighbor As Yourself.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Welcome, Yvonne.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Tell my audience at Malie's Bookshelf why reading is so important.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
Oh, it's foundational. It's foundational. You can and go to
different places. You can learn things that you never knew
that aren't going to be learned in school, and you
can write and then you can share your own thoughts
to other people.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So it's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
You know, I came across a stat they said, forty
five million Americans are illiterate.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
What we're gonna do about that?
Speaker 6 (17:19):
I think more events like these get some more good
books that don't want to read, right, you know?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
You know, for there was a time in America where
we were denied the right to read and write.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And that's why reading it's important.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Because it's transformative, it's empowering. And anything you can find
you can find in a book. Now your actress, and
you know, so you know how to make stories interactive
and coming along?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Tell us all about that.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Well, that is actually what drew me to acting, is
my imagination. I was an only child until my brother
was born right about ten years old for me, so
it was just me and stories and acting them out
in the backyard. And I loved books as a kid.
That was my mom would take me to the library.
That was the first place I got to walk all
by myself, so it's a big deal. And I would
(18:17):
go and I would check out books and I would
gobble them up, and then the next week I would
get more. So I'm very blessed to be able to
have had that kind of experience.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Wonderful, wonderful.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Now you shared with me that you have a production company, entrepreneur.
We living in a time where it's very important to
do for self and be resourceful. Now I believe it
is your husband's standing right here and life. Tell me
all about your production company.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You were based out of southern California, focusing on media production, video,
MFB entertainment, my father's business, and so we just love
to to really support whatever the vision is. We came
out today to support Sante in this book release and
(19:10):
capture this wonderful moment. So it's always a pleasure to
take the skills God to bless you with and capture
the moments that matter to people.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
We're making history today. We are at Malique Books. We're
going to be starting an event in a few minutes,
and they are here to immortalize this event.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
You know, social media's like that.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Back in the day, they used to say, if you
don't have a business card, you ain't got a business.
Now on days, you ain't got a social media you
don't have a business. So we want to, you know,
capture the moment and any final thoughts about your production
company you would like to share.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
My brother, oh, Yeah, you could check us out at
www dot NFB entertainment dot com. That's n FB my
father's bi business entertainment dot com.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Thank you both for sharing your business and about yourself
to my podcast, Elik Bookshell.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Thank you you, Malik for providing this resource for our community.
It's that itself is going to be immortalized because you've
already touched so many people by these opportunities and it's
just going to keep going and those experiences they're changing lives.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Thank you, Thank you, appreciate y'all.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I can't let you leave without getting a few sound
bites from a podcast, Malik's Bookshelf Bringing the World Together
with Malik with Books, Culture and Community Wallow two six
seven at Malie Books. Man questions Yep, well hey amor
good intentions, it's your new book, break it down because
you know your book better than anybody else.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
Home, Well, good attentions to the book to show people
the similarities of the struggles that take place when you're
growing up trying to figure out life and you adult
you trying to figure out life. But I just want
to see people to see the similarities of the struggles
that I went through. But I never gave up on
myself and I got through on the other side. And
when you don't give up on yourself, there an example
of what can happen. The possibilities is endless, endless.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Well, you know, brother, one thing that stood out to
me was when you talked about marketing.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Marketing is everything.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Market is anything one thing that's that's something you do
because you're not afraid to get out of market your brand.
You're not afraid to do videos and talk about my
elige books. You're not afraid to do none of that.
If I'm you, I'm doing today day, I'm getting worried
out about books. I'm pulling up at events where you
know books is necessary or whatever, and I'm just gonna
keep it alive. But uh, you gotta market your product.
Nobody can market your product more than you. Because you
know your product. They don't know it. You're trying to
(21:40):
get them to know it. In order to get them
to know it, you gotta tell them.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
About it, and he'll be too cool. Yeah, and people
be too cool. You know, brother, how.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Much money do you think they spend to keep people
believing that they can't be all they can be a
lot of money now building its brother.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
They spend a lot of money because you know, it's
just so much doubt in the air. They mark it
out out here. Doubt is marketed, so you.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Know a lot of people can't rise above.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
They talk about prisons, but the biggest prison is the mind.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
It is because you know, it's like people be locking
their own people be incarcerating their mind and don't believe
that they can move. They could do this and that,
and it's like you've done once you do that, like
most of the game. You know, it's the mind. The
mind game is anything man. And if you shut your
mind down of what you can do and what you
can't do.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
You trouble. You're in trouble, them in trouble.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
You know, always say change your thoughts, change your life.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
You can change everything. You know, if you could change
the thoughts, you could change the world.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, yeah, they did us.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I think it was.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
The Dell KONNECKI commission Napoleon Hill to study success. And
you know he wrote a series of books, Think and
Grow Rich, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
He was a think of rich. I think that was
a prison classic.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Yes, I mean we're in the years and decades and
decades ago and is still it's.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Still that relevant.
Speaker 7 (23:11):
It's still that it's still it's still major.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
You know, go ahead, he wrote. He wrote one called
the Lass of Success. He wrote a lot and deal.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Kage has commissioned him to do this study. But most
of what he wrote was how the minds work.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
How to be successful.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
You gotta believe you can be successful to be successful.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
You see, you heard what I said. You got to
become a millionaire before you can become a millionaire.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yes, yes, I always say fake it till you make it.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
Yeah, yeah, you gotta do that.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
What what what?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
What was the spark that change you?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Brother? Butid I mean something that had to enlighten you
to get on this course?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Did you become right now?
Speaker 7 (23:52):
I got tired of losing, Malik, you know, for the
streets that had you thinking you winning the whole time
you're losing.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
You know. I was always told this story there was
a donkey that fell in the ditch and everybody walked
by through a stone, and so many stones were down
in the ditch that the donkey walked out.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Damn. That's crazy, you know, Meaning.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
That every knock is a boost, Losing is sometimes winning.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So you got tired of losing.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
And what's some of the steps you took to begin
in your mind winning?
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Accountability?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Countability, that's everything, break it down.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
You know, you got to be countable for your bullshit,
all the stuff you lack, ad the you know, lack
of discipline, not staying on course, looking all over the place.
You got to be accountable that you where you are
based off of your actions.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
You can't blame nobody.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
For your shit out here. You got nothing but a
bunch of victims. Oh I ain't here because of them.
They ain't put me on. Ain't no what you ain't
do for you? People don't want to look at America.
And that's that's why a lot of people, you know,
they don't want to be countable. Looking at America is
a scary thing.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Wow, countability, Look in the mirror, accept the truth.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
So what are your what's some of the tips to
help a person?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Because I look at people and I said this to
Tim Ross when he was here. I said that everybody
is a lock and some of the locks got rusted
on them, and so who.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Has the master key?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Because to open up them rusty locks?
Speaker 7 (25:24):
You, Yes, it's yourself. Is your mind, is your body's
the spirit is your energy, you know. But a lot
of people they just it's hard to believe in self.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Change begins with self.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah, so many of us doubt ourselves, don't believe in ourselves.
But you wrote a book called Armed with Good Intentions
to change the game, to change how people think. And
what do you want people to take away from this book?
Speaker 7 (25:53):
I just want you to see the similarities of the
struggle in the ups and downs of life that I
went through and you've probably gone through. And I just
ain't never give up. You can't give up.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Well you heard it live at Malik Books. Follow two
six seven.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Thank you, my brother, appreciate you. Thanks for listening to
Malik's bookshelf, where topics on the shelf are books, culture,
and communities.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Be sure to subscribe and leave me a review. Check
out my Instagram at Malik Books. See you next time.
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