October 27, 2024 • 26 mins
It's an "Antwone Fisher" experience as Malik's wife April finds her lost family members after 50 years.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My league buds has all the knowledge you want. My
league buds has all the knowledge you need.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
League Buds, Yet they have all the books that the
whole wild world?
Speaker 3 (00:09):
What of read my league buds?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to Malik's Bookshelf, Bringing a world together
with books, culture and community. Hi, my name is Malik,
your host of Malik's Bookshelf. I'm down in a dirty South,
deep in Texas, in Arkansas and Louisiana. We in search
of April's lost family for over fifty years. She's gonna
(00:36):
be you, red and nine it. It's gonna be an
Antoine officier experience. I'm gonna be talking to her family
members in April about this.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I'm here to witness it.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It's in a deep, dirty South out here in Louisiana, Texas, Arkansas.
They spread it all over. This is a surreal experience.
I'm glad to share it with my audience on Malik's Bookshelf,
Bringing a world together with books, culture and community.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You know what brings people together? Also family.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You can choose your family, you can't choose your relatives.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
But the fact that she has a.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Biological father, biological grandfather, biological sisters, that she just now
finding out at fifty years old.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
That's my episode.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
This episode is about this whole experience. I'm here to
witness it, recorded, document it, and share it all. Right now,
this is a different lifestyle here. I ain't never I'm
a city born, city raised, and I ain't never been
in the backwards woods like this, off grid, no internet,
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no paved streets, ponds and you know, and just in
the wilderness, you know out here. And let me tell
you something. Driving all around, this is country. This is
Trump country. Town flags everywhere. I'm in the deep and
this is Trump country when I'm driving. When I'm not driving,
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but some family members are driving, and that's all I
see out here. I might have seen one Harris walks
months hundreds and hundreds of Trump flags everywhere, so we
know this is a conservative. All I know is I'm
not gonna be found out at night and going somewhere
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I don't know. That's just me keeping it one hundred.
It's like Compton and watchs. I know not to go
in that neighborhood at a certain time. Beware of your surroundings,
keep your head on the swivel.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Like I said, I hope this car will break down.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You feel me, So hey, all I know is.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
This is an experience for me. This is new for me.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I'm here to be supported for April. My wife also
want to say this. Yesterday we all sat around her
new family. Like I said, it's an Antoine Offisher experience,
and watch the LSU in Texas.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
A and M game. They have. April has a nephew.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
This is a starting D lineman on Texas AM DJ Hicks,
and he was explosive in.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Texas INM won the game.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And I got a chance to witness us all cheering
for Texas A and M for the first time with
her family.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
It's not every day that a did you get.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Us to know a surprise starting nephew whom her whom
her brother David. That's her son and her father name
is David. Her brother name is David, her nephew is
it plays for a Texas and M defensive line. DJ
hicks name kept being announced on television as we watched
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Texas and M beat LSU yesterday's So that was an experence.
Stay tuned for this upcoming episode.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
We're out here on a journey.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
This is a what I call a Antwine Fisher experience
where April.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
After fifty years.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Found contact with her biological father, biological sister, biological grandfather,
deep in the South Louisiana and Arkansas. I'm standing right
here with her biological father, David, her two biological sisters,
Kimmy and Courtney, and I just wanted to do a
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podcast on this holy experience.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I'm gonna start with April because she.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Just found out after fifty years that she got a
family cross way across America. She live in California, twenty
five hundred miles away, deep in Louisiana, deep in Texas,
and so this has been an Antoine Fisher experience, and
so just speak on this whole experience.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
April.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Well, this whole experience has been very, very overwhelming. And
it's not a sad overwhelming feeling. I'm getting emotional already.
It's just a feeling of completion. I know, I didn't know,
but I knew, and the DNA don't lie. And I
have sisters that I really say that that's my sisters.
I have friends, that's my sisters. But you know, I
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found sisters. I have a brother, and that was hard for.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Me to say.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
For my husband, No, that it was hard for me
to say that I have any siblings because I didn't
have any. You know, I grew up with people that
said they weren't my my siblings, but I never said
brother or and my husband say that's your brother. I'm like,
that's my daddy's brother, that's my daddy's son.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
My daddy son. Never said it.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
But I'm comfortable saying my sisters and my brother. So
it's very beautiful.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
That's true. That's right. This is really emotional.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And you find out fifty years later a family twenty
five hundred miles away, and believe me, this has been
an experience for me as well. We're in a deep,
deep South, off the grid, no internet, you know what
I'm saying. We need silent dirt roads. Come on, man, wilderness.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
All right.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So, but the people loved this. This is where they
grew up, generational families out here. So this is her
biological father, David, And after fifty years, you finally met
your daughter.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Just tell me.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
My audience on Malie's bookshelf bringing the world together with books,
culture and community, Well, we're trying to bring families together
that have been lost.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
So speak on this experience for you.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
It's been a great experience to me because I've been
looking for April for fifty one years really ever since
she was in Pampers and due to my granddaughter did
asking me said, how about.
Speaker 8 (06:58):
You still want to find your I said, yes, I do.
She said, well, wasn't her grandpa? Wasn't her grandpa name?
I said, Bill Ray stay at Maryland somewhere, And I'm
just wondering how did she find his address to get there?
Speaker 7 (07:12):
She did so much completions with technology and knowing how
to use it and brought this into a close that
everything worked out like we're playing yesterday and standing my story.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
How did you feel when your first laid eyes?
Speaker 7 (07:29):
How did you feel in your first laid I tears
in my eye and my alma skin.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Just drew up.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
Feels just just ooh, open up now?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
How did that first hug feel?
Speaker 7 (07:40):
That first hug felt so good that I couldn't hold
it no more. WHOA, it's well looking, couldn't hold it anymore.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
April, I was that first hug at first sight beautiful,
It was beautiful energy.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I did, I did, I did, I witnessed it. I'm
here too, I told her, I'm coming with you. I
ain't gonna that you go experiences without me. I came
down here with you. She was out here trying to
make plans, and I'm like, well, I ain't think you
want to go on something like that.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
But I'm like, hold on, hold up now.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
First of all, you need me, I need you need
the security there too. You don't know what damn you're
about to go in the deep South, all kind of shit.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I'm now the way the bodies have buried at out
this tree.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
It's off the grid.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
It's deep in the South, all right, one sheriff And
about what how many fifty sixty miles?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Come on? Right? Dang? You need launch too manitude to
get here. Yeah, see that? So hey, hey, wow, this
has been an experience.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
But you was just speaking on your granddaughter, y Yes,
and this is the mother.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Oh my name is Courtney.
Speaker 9 (08:50):
My daughter name is Casey. I've been telling Casey all
her life, y'all. I have an older sister. She didn't
believe me. My husband's appearance is Beardy Wood. And I
always was out there and I was like, my sister's
close to me.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Then realize.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
On seven you was on sixth ass y'a was yeah,
look I was on seven.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yeah, I live on seven the cemetery.
Speaker 9 (09:15):
Yes, and I was right there. We was always right there,
and I was like, oh, so close, but just didn't know.
Look I got I was so close and I just
didn't know. But I kept saying, I feel my sister,
she's close by. And it was like, Mama, please, Yes,
I never knew, Mama, I know, I said, Dad be
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telling me years that I have a sister, and I
have an older sister.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
I'm not the oldest.
Speaker 9 (09:41):
And she all he always said, go ask miss Barbara,
and Miss Barbara her aunt that she didn't get a
chance to meet. She used to be like, oh, she
live in California. You won't be able to go there.
I said, we go there all the time. But she
never would really give me any information on her. And
so finally Casey said, you know what, Mama, this is
going to be my project before I go back to school.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Something.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
I'm gonna find your sister. If you say like you said, but.
Speaker 9 (10:06):
I really don't believe you, because I know how y'all
make stories.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Here we go, here we go again.
Speaker 9 (10:13):
So I was so excited and it seemed like I've
been knowing her the whole time.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
And it's like it wasn't any distance.
Speaker 9 (10:23):
It's like you know how you meet people for the
first time, you be like okay, but this time it
was like I've been knowing it my whole life, and it's
like she's not a stranger to me.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Wow, well, I know one thing.
Speaker 9 (10:35):
We have so many similarities in its soul.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yes, y'all looking like shame cheeks built from the hips down,
the same pair, texture, the same you know. Yeah, walking
in your house. I feel like, you know, y'all got
a lot in common. And so this has been an
eye opener. And we got Kemi over here her sister,
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I guess with the third oldest.
Speaker 10 (11:02):
I'm the middle, so well, I guess now I got bumped,
so like I grew up with my sister Courtney, I'm
the middle.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Then my brother David, so.
Speaker 10 (11:19):
Well, our dad got sick lately, and that's when I
started hearing a lot about April and my niece. She
bought the idea to me because she gets stuck. It's
only so much you can find on Google. So I
have a friend that works for the government, and I
gave him what she gave me, and he was able
to find things in detail. So he's just he's so happy,
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like he is so happy.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I am too. I'm so grateful.
Speaker 10 (11:44):
But myself, kim Ya and April and my dad David,
we did a DNA test, so we sent it off
and this was the longest how many days?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Five four? Five days? Yeah, we had to wait.
Speaker 10 (12:02):
Yeah, so this was the longest way ever. And I'm
telling her, like she's trying to find her dad, I'll
make sure he mind. I'm just so grateful, Like I mean,
I love family, like that's near and dear to me.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
And even to have that.
Speaker 10 (12:22):
Not necessarily closure, but it's like now what you've been
missing or that feeling that you're like something is missing
or something that's not right now to just know that,
it's just so it's you can't even explain it.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
You can't explain the feeling that you have.
Speaker 10 (12:39):
So piece you feel a piece, Oh yeah, a piece,
A piece.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
As I was telling you guys yesterday, I was so
conflicted with the decision of moving forward because I just
felt like I was betraying my mother, you know, and
she wasn't here to say yes, daughter, go ahead. So
I just was feeling so conflicted, like am I doing
the right thing?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And now what I see you guys like, oh man,
this is this.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Is so right, this is so right.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Hug Her up, hug her up, hugger up. Come on, Dad,
come on, Pop, come on, get on in there.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Look at this. Yeah, hold on, y'all, stay right there.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I gotta take a picture, my audience.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You gotta be still because I gotta take this picture
of all for hugging the round table. You know, this
is surreal. This is filled with a lot of emotion.
This is history, It is extraordinary. I didn't want to
miss it. This is an Antoine Fisher moment. Find you're
not alone, You're not ain't.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
God gotta answer, Like she said, she.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Didn't know if her daughter, if her mom would feel
a certain way when she passed away a few years back.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
But God gotta say so.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
A week joke, kim joke, and this corny joke that
we just been laughing about other people be like, why
are laughing?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
But we know why we're lafting.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Like corny stuff.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
I'm so I'm a jokester.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
And I thought I I thought I got it for my.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Father because he was a joke to too. Oh my god,
he used to just joke Jojoe. But now it's like, yeah,
it's so good.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
I believe that laughter. Is this the most powerful medicine.
It's so powerful, and I use it. I use it
on a daily basis.
Speaker 10 (14:18):
And all of us are vegetarian. Yeah, I courtinate a vegetarians.
None of us wear the old room. You don't stink,
but I trot the owner. That's all long before this.
We have so much of the same like similarities, just
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like we were grew up in the house together, siblings,
and we did what the other ones did.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
First time meeting each other in fifty one years. And
so I'm.
Speaker 10 (14:54):
And I'm forty six, so yes, first time meeting. He
just turned forty in our So yes, first time meeting.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
And we already are having connection. Yes, and we do some.
Speaker 10 (15:08):
Of the same things unconsciously knowing.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
But because the DNA, yes.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
It's just ain't physical, but there are certain things inside
of the DNA personality traits as.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Well as when I didn't believe it, I even called
the people like this, right, the lady said, ma'am, if
it's no zeros on there, it's right, that's right, y.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, So I'm I'm grateful. I'm more than grateful. I
mean it just feels like, I mean, the torch, we
gotta keep going with it. And then it's like.
Speaker 10 (15:48):
Yeah, I feel like like I called Courtney and talking
to her as a big sister.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I mean I feel that with you too, like I
can call you and talk to you as a big.
Speaker 10 (15:58):
Sister and get that guy in their wisdom and even
knowledge and so and I always rely on my big sister.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
So yeah, I call her.
Speaker 10 (16:08):
She's been through some things that I'm just now going
through and how she dealt with and me watching thinking back,
I don't know how she did it, but I asked
questions now because I'm going through those things and she's
able to help me.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And then even the short time that you've been here.
Speaker 10 (16:25):
I feel like, oh my god, I could talk to
my sister too, like we can have our comforts calls
and yeah, we just talking. So this is like this
is a miracle to me. This is miraculous and it's
a blessing. And so yeah, I'm grateful.
Speaker 9 (16:43):
You know, you know how I always tell you how
life repeats yourself and think about all the families you
helped found their siblings.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Oh yeah, and she.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Has helped her.
Speaker 9 (16:53):
She has helped people find their people, and look why
she was in Los Angeles and she was down there.
Speaker 10 (17:00):
A family I found from Mississippi. Her family thought she died.
And I went live near uh yes, what's the area
skid roll and these people's tent had burned up, and
I went to the good store sport and good store
bought them new tents and everything. I was going live
and like five people in boxed me, like.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
That's our sister.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
We've been looking for her for.
Speaker 10 (17:25):
Seven years and we're way in Mississippi. So they asked
me if I can send the address, send whatever, and
they asked me to ask her questions about her children.
She had seven children, lost them to the system, and
she was pregnant now so I still they still keep
in touch with me.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
They made a trip to l A and found her. Yeah,
so I've helped like a couple of people do that.
It's like the seeds, Yeah, so so on the seed.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Is she and that years ago like six fower.
Speaker 10 (18:02):
That was at least about six years ago. Yes, I
have their picture. I'll show you.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, six years ago. To see with someone never.
Speaker 10 (18:17):
And I mean even to see them, I mean I
can imagine this feeling that they had seeing their lost
loved one that they grew up with and then rekindling
after seven years. So this is like, I mean, it's
a joy that's unexplainable.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
So I'm grateful.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I'm glad they have witness shit. I think this was
an eye opener. You know, it's never too late as
long as you have life too correct change, seek fine,
but don't give up.
Speaker 10 (18:50):
And maybe this would encourage somebody to come forward if
you were maybe missing a sibling, or if you are
in search of your own family, like, there are ways
that you can do it.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
There are ways, and.
Speaker 10 (19:04):
Even if you feel like something is missing, most of
the time it is. It is, So I encourage everybody
to find their families.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yes, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
This is organic now and it's not scripted. They speaking
from the heart and mind. We in the deep South
wind Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah, we got a pond, we got a.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Dirt road, we got with the wilderness all around us.
You know what's gonna pop out of them trees?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Man? Look, look, I'm a city boy. Yeah, I'm a yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Look beautiful butterflies I see.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah, I'm the city you know, and that ain't gonna change.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I need to be around people and around things.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I like concerts, I like grocery stores close, you know,
you know, yeah, this ain't my cup of tea. But hey,
it's beautiful though. It's quiet and feel peaceful.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
It's a good place to probably retire, you know, buy
some land.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
But you know, I need to be developed because out
here is wilderness.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
They love it.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
They great. It's generational. You know, this is generational. The
Hicks family, they own over one hundred acres. You know,
many of us in the past showed our acres and
moved and land and moved to the inner moved the
city's north up north.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
In the east coast.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
But out here they own about one hundred and something acres.
They all grew up here, generational one hundred and eighty acres.
And I'm looking at it and I'm standing on it.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
They grew up.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Here, Their grandfathers grew up here, their great great great fathers.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
So you know, this is this is their home.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
This is where they all grew up And the young
lady who found yes, she come on up here, come on.
What's your daughter's name again?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Casey? Casey. That's why I thought, what this is? Casey.
She's the one that found April.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I'm doing my podcast Maleak's Bookshelf, bringing the world together
with books, culture and community.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
But today you brought.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Together a long lost sister, a long loss that's your
neat Auntie, and today I wanted I'm talking to my audience,
but tell me about that experience and what made you
do it.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
The experience of finding my aunt.
Speaker 11 (21:42):
Honestly, it was very excited, fast faced.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
I was a girl.
Speaker 11 (21:48):
I was hoping first because mister Billy Ray remember that
he originally gave me.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
It was like it didn't come back to anything, and.
Speaker 11 (21:54):
I was a little scared and I'm like, I don't
know hypa found When my first day searching, I found
other ladies with the name April, I'm like, this be her,
but it was like they didn't seem right. And then
finally talking to my other aunt, I found I finally
found her, and honestly, it has been one of the
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most exciting experiences ever.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
I'm in this speech class. I literally wrote my speech
pouder I got an.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
A wow, wonderful, wonderful and.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Hostually, I'm just happy to have her in my life.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Out Yeah, yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I'm mad your experience the reunion. After fifty years, April
finds out that she has family out here in Texas
in Arkansas, and the person I'm talking to right now
is the one that did the research, found enough connection
and pinned down and called her. I was sitting on
the couch when you called. When she got that call,
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she thought it was a telemarketer.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I remember that.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
I heard you in the background.
Speaker 11 (22:57):
You were on your computer talking about the ancestry and
never talked about like the Higgs.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
And all that.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I'm like, yeah, yeah, we did some twenty three and
meters with me and the family. And Hicks popped up
in her DNA at saying relatives, and that kind of
got her mind spinning too. Who's all these Hicks? And
I don't see Hagen. So that's beginning. But her mom
was already passed, her father was ill, her daddy that
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raised her, so she wasn't aware at all about her
family out here and her biological dad. So this was
all new a surprise. But what comes out the dark
comes to the light. And you was part of that
reunion and reuniting of her relatives, and now she could
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choose to be part of your family.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Wait, you ask me, how does that feel?
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah? How does that feel?
Speaker 6 (23:54):
This was amazing. It feels wonderful because the.
Speaker 11 (23:56):
Fact is that I'm walking this earth and I have
five other cousins, another uncle, another another, ain't it? And
I have all this amazing family. And the fact that
we were literally around the corner when we were visiting
my grandparents or my other uncle, and the fact that
we could have met y'all.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yep, y'all was on six. I believe we're on seven.
Were right down the street in Englewood.
Speaker 11 (24:20):
Yeah, it's just it's, honestly, just a surreal feeling. It's exciting.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
At first, you get a little confused and you're like,
ain't no way. But honestly, when I see y'all yest day,
I'm like, it's real.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
It is real, and we happy to meet you. Look
at that you got some West Coast on you right there.
Lord that death Road Records Death Road Record t shirt
on Los Angeles, yep, California.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Well, I hope my audience enjoyed that.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I'm glad that y'all was open to allow me to
interview you from a podcast. Malik's Bookshelf, bringing the world
together with books, culture, and community and I really appreciate it.
I think this will definitely inspire someone who has a
family member that they trying to connect with, this loss
or forgotten or whatever. This definitely gonna inspire them to
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want to take some steps to reunite with a family member.
You know, you can't choose your relatives, but you could
choose your family. So seek you, seek them out, find them,
embrace them. You know, I'm sure I got relatives somewhere.
You know, we know the history of America, a lot
of us have been separated, but either forcefully or by choice.
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But nevertheless, it's still family, still relatives.
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Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to Malik's Bookshelf, Bringing a world together
with books, culture and community. Hi, my name is Malik,
your host of Malik's Bookshelf. I'm down in a dirty South,
deep in Texas, in Arkansas and Louisiana. We in search
of April's lost family for over fifty years. She's gonna
(00:36):
be you, red and nine it. It's gonna be an
Antoine officier experience. I'm gonna be talking to her family
members in April about this.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I'm here to witness it.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It's in a deep, dirty South out here in Louisiana, Texas, Arkansas.
They spread it all over. This is a surreal experience.
I'm glad to share it with my audience on Malik's Bookshelf,
Bringing a world together with books, culture and community.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You know what brings people together? Also family.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You can choose your family, you can't choose your relatives.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
But the fact that she has a.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Biological father, biological grandfather, biological sisters, that she just now
finding out at fifty years old.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
That's my episode.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
This episode is about this whole experience. I'm here to
witness it, recorded, document it, and share it all. Right now,
this is a different lifestyle here. I ain't never I'm
a city born, city raised, and I ain't never been
in the backwards woods like this, off grid, no internet,
(01:45):
no paved streets, ponds and you know, and just in
the wilderness, you know out here. And let me tell
you something. Driving all around, this is country. This is
Trump country. Town flags everywhere. I'm in the deep and
this is Trump country when I'm driving. When I'm not driving,
(02:07):
but some family members are driving, and that's all I
see out here. I might have seen one Harris walks
months hundreds and hundreds of Trump flags everywhere, so we
know this is a conservative. All I know is I'm
not gonna be found out at night and going somewhere
(02:29):
I don't know. That's just me keeping it one hundred.
It's like Compton and watchs. I know not to go
in that neighborhood at a certain time. Beware of your surroundings,
keep your head on the swivel.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Like I said, I hope this car will break down.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You feel me, So hey, all I know is.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
This is an experience for me. This is new for me.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I'm here to be supported for April. My wife also
want to say this. Yesterday we all sat around her
new family. Like I said, it's an Antoine Offisher experience,
and watch the LSU in Texas.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
A and M game. They have. April has a nephew.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
This is a starting D lineman on Texas AM DJ Hicks,
and he was explosive in.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Texas INM won the game.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And I got a chance to witness us all cheering
for Texas A and M for the first time with
her family.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
It's not every day that a did you get.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Us to know a surprise starting nephew whom her whom
her brother David. That's her son and her father name
is David. Her brother name is David, her nephew is
it plays for a Texas and M defensive line. DJ
hicks name kept being announced on television as we watched
(03:57):
Texas and M beat LSU yesterday's So that was an experence.
Stay tuned for this upcoming episode.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
We're out here on a journey.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
This is a what I call a Antwine Fisher experience
where April.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
After fifty years.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Found contact with her biological father, biological sister, biological grandfather,
deep in the South Louisiana and Arkansas. I'm standing right
here with her biological father, David, her two biological sisters,
Kimmy and Courtney, and I just wanted to do a
(04:40):
podcast on this holy experience.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I'm gonna start with April because she.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Just found out after fifty years that she got a
family cross way across America. She live in California, twenty
five hundred miles away, deep in Louisiana, deep in Texas,
and so this has been an Antoine Fisher experience, and
so just speak on this whole experience.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
April.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Well, this whole experience has been very, very overwhelming. And
it's not a sad overwhelming feeling. I'm getting emotional already.
It's just a feeling of completion. I know, I didn't know,
but I knew, and the DNA don't lie. And I
have sisters that I really say that that's my sisters.
I have friends, that's my sisters. But you know, I
(05:29):
found sisters. I have a brother, and that was hard for.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Me to say.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
For my husband, No, that it was hard for me
to say that I have any siblings because I didn't
have any. You know, I grew up with people that
said they weren't my my siblings, but I never said
brother or and my husband say that's your brother. I'm like,
that's my daddy's brother, that's my daddy's son.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
My daddy son. Never said it.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
But I'm comfortable saying my sisters and my brother. So
it's very beautiful.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
That's true. That's right. This is really emotional.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And you find out fifty years later a family twenty
five hundred miles away, and believe me, this has been
an experience for me as well. We're in a deep,
deep South, off the grid, no internet, you know what
I'm saying. We need silent dirt roads. Come on, man, wilderness.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
All right.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So, but the people loved this. This is where they
grew up, generational families out here. So this is her
biological father, David, And after fifty years, you finally met
your daughter.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Just tell me.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
My audience on Malie's bookshelf bringing the world together with books,
culture and community, Well, we're trying to bring families together
that have been lost.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
So speak on this experience for you.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
It's been a great experience to me because I've been
looking for April for fifty one years really ever since
she was in Pampers and due to my granddaughter did
asking me said, how about.
Speaker 8 (06:58):
You still want to find your I said, yes, I do.
She said, well, wasn't her grandpa? Wasn't her grandpa name?
I said, Bill Ray stay at Maryland somewhere, And I'm
just wondering how did she find his address to get there?
Speaker 7 (07:12):
She did so much completions with technology and knowing how
to use it and brought this into a close that
everything worked out like we're playing yesterday and standing my story.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
How did you feel when your first laid eyes?
Speaker 7 (07:29):
How did you feel in your first laid I tears
in my eye and my alma skin.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Just drew up.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
Feels just just ooh, open up now?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
How did that first hug feel?
Speaker 7 (07:40):
That first hug felt so good that I couldn't hold
it no more. WHOA, it's well looking, couldn't hold it anymore.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
April, I was that first hug at first sight beautiful,
It was beautiful energy.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I did, I did, I did, I witnessed it. I'm
here too, I told her, I'm coming with you. I
ain't gonna that you go experiences without me. I came
down here with you. She was out here trying to
make plans, and I'm like, well, I ain't think you
want to go on something like that.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
But I'm like, hold on, hold up now.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
First of all, you need me, I need you need
the security there too. You don't know what damn you're
about to go in the deep South, all kind of shit.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I'm now the way the bodies have buried at out
this tree.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
It's off the grid.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
It's deep in the South, all right, one sheriff And
about what how many fifty sixty miles?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Come on? Right? Dang? You need launch too manitude to
get here. Yeah, see that? So hey, hey, wow, this
has been an experience.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
But you was just speaking on your granddaughter, y Yes,
and this is the mother.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Oh my name is Courtney.
Speaker 9 (08:50):
My daughter name is Casey. I've been telling Casey all
her life, y'all. I have an older sister. She didn't
believe me. My husband's appearance is Beardy Wood. And I
always was out there and I was like, my sister's
close to me.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Then realize.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
On seven you was on sixth ass y'a was yeah,
look I was on seven.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yeah, I live on seven the cemetery.
Speaker 9 (09:15):
Yes, and I was right there. We was always right there,
and I was like, oh, so close, but just didn't know.
Look I got I was so close and I just
didn't know. But I kept saying, I feel my sister,
she's close by. And it was like, Mama, please, Yes,
I never knew, Mama, I know, I said, Dad be
(09:36):
telling me years that I have a sister, and I
have an older sister.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
I'm not the oldest.
Speaker 9 (09:41):
And she all he always said, go ask miss Barbara,
and Miss Barbara her aunt that she didn't get a
chance to meet. She used to be like, oh, she
live in California. You won't be able to go there.
I said, we go there all the time. But she
never would really give me any information on her. And
so finally Casey said, you know what, Mama, this is
going to be my project before I go back to school.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Something.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
I'm gonna find your sister. If you say like you said, but.
Speaker 9 (10:06):
I really don't believe you, because I know how y'all
make stories.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Here we go, here we go again.
Speaker 9 (10:13):
So I was so excited and it seemed like I've
been knowing her the whole time.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
And it's like it wasn't any distance.
Speaker 9 (10:23):
It's like you know how you meet people for the
first time, you be like okay, but this time it
was like I've been knowing it my whole life, and it's
like she's not a stranger to me.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Wow, well, I know one thing.
Speaker 9 (10:35):
We have so many similarities in its soul.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yes, y'all looking like shame cheeks built from the hips down,
the same pair, texture, the same you know. Yeah, walking
in your house. I feel like, you know, y'all got
a lot in common. And so this has been an
eye opener. And we got Kemi over here her sister,
(11:00):
I guess with the third oldest.
Speaker 10 (11:02):
I'm the middle, so well, I guess now I got bumped,
so like I grew up with my sister Courtney, I'm
the middle.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Then my brother David, so.
Speaker 10 (11:19):
Well, our dad got sick lately, and that's when I
started hearing a lot about April and my niece. She
bought the idea to me because she gets stuck. It's
only so much you can find on Google. So I
have a friend that works for the government, and I
gave him what she gave me, and he was able
to find things in detail. So he's just he's so happy,
(11:41):
like he is so happy.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I am too. I'm so grateful.
Speaker 10 (11:44):
But myself, kim Ya and April and my dad David,
we did a DNA test, so we sent it off
and this was the longest how many days?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Five four? Five days? Yeah, we had to wait.
Speaker 10 (12:02):
Yeah, so this was the longest way ever. And I'm
telling her, like she's trying to find her dad, I'll
make sure he mind. I'm just so grateful, Like I mean,
I love family, like that's near and dear to me.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
And even to have that.
Speaker 10 (12:22):
Not necessarily closure, but it's like now what you've been
missing or that feeling that you're like something is missing
or something that's not right now to just know that,
it's just so it's you can't even explain it.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
You can't explain the feeling that you have.
Speaker 10 (12:39):
So piece you feel a piece, Oh yeah, a piece,
A piece.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
As I was telling you guys yesterday, I was so
conflicted with the decision of moving forward because I just
felt like I was betraying my mother, you know, and
she wasn't here to say yes, daughter, go ahead. So
I just was feeling so conflicted, like am I doing
the right thing?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And now what I see you guys like, oh man,
this is this.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Is so right, this is so right.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Hug Her up, hug her up, hugger up. Come on, Dad,
come on, Pop, come on, get on in there.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Look at this. Yeah, hold on, y'all, stay right there.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I gotta take a picture, my audience.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You gotta be still because I gotta take this picture
of all for hugging the round table. You know, this
is surreal. This is filled with a lot of emotion.
This is history, It is extraordinary. I didn't want to
miss it. This is an Antoine Fisher moment. Find you're
not alone, You're not ain't.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
God gotta answer, Like she said, she.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Didn't know if her daughter, if her mom would feel
a certain way when she passed away a few years back.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
But God gotta say so.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
A week joke, kim joke, and this corny joke that
we just been laughing about other people be like, why
are laughing?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
But we know why we're lafting.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Like corny stuff.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
I'm so I'm a jokester.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
And I thought I I thought I got it for my.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Father because he was a joke to too. Oh my god,
he used to just joke Jojoe. But now it's like, yeah,
it's so good.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
I believe that laughter. Is this the most powerful medicine.
It's so powerful, and I use it. I use it
on a daily basis.
Speaker 10 (14:18):
And all of us are vegetarian. Yeah, I courtinate a vegetarians.
None of us wear the old room. You don't stink,
but I trot the owner. That's all long before this.
We have so much of the same like similarities, just
(14:39):
like we were grew up in the house together, siblings,
and we did what the other ones did.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
First time meeting each other in fifty one years. And
so I'm.
Speaker 10 (14:54):
And I'm forty six, so yes, first time meeting. He
just turned forty in our So yes, first time meeting.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
And we already are having connection. Yes, and we do some.
Speaker 10 (15:08):
Of the same things unconsciously knowing.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
But because the DNA, yes.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
It's just ain't physical, but there are certain things inside
of the DNA personality traits as.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Well as when I didn't believe it, I even called
the people like this, right, the lady said, ma'am, if
it's no zeros on there, it's right, that's right, y.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, So I'm I'm grateful. I'm more than grateful. I
mean it just feels like, I mean, the torch, we
gotta keep going with it. And then it's like.
Speaker 10 (15:48):
Yeah, I feel like like I called Courtney and talking
to her as a big sister.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I mean I feel that with you too, like I
can call you and talk to you as a big.
Speaker 10 (15:58):
Sister and get that guy in their wisdom and even
knowledge and so and I always rely on my big sister.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
So yeah, I call her.
Speaker 10 (16:08):
She's been through some things that I'm just now going
through and how she dealt with and me watching thinking back,
I don't know how she did it, but I asked
questions now because I'm going through those things and she's
able to help me.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And then even the short time that you've been here.
Speaker 10 (16:25):
I feel like, oh my god, I could talk to
my sister too, like we can have our comforts calls
and yeah, we just talking. So this is like this
is a miracle to me. This is miraculous and it's
a blessing. And so yeah, I'm grateful.
Speaker 9 (16:43):
You know, you know how I always tell you how
life repeats yourself and think about all the families you
helped found their siblings.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Oh yeah, and she.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Has helped her.
Speaker 9 (16:53):
She has helped people find their people, and look why
she was in Los Angeles and she was down there.
Speaker 10 (17:00):
A family I found from Mississippi. Her family thought she died.
And I went live near uh yes, what's the area
skid roll and these people's tent had burned up, and
I went to the good store sport and good store
bought them new tents and everything. I was going live
and like five people in boxed me, like.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
That's our sister.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
We've been looking for her for.
Speaker 10 (17:25):
Seven years and we're way in Mississippi. So they asked
me if I can send the address, send whatever, and
they asked me to ask her questions about her children.
She had seven children, lost them to the system, and
she was pregnant now so I still they still keep
in touch with me.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
They made a trip to l A and found her. Yeah,
so I've helped like a couple of people do that.
It's like the seeds, Yeah, so so on the seed.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Is she and that years ago like six fower.
Speaker 10 (18:02):
That was at least about six years ago. Yes, I
have their picture. I'll show you.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, six years ago. To see with someone never.
Speaker 10 (18:17):
And I mean even to see them, I mean I
can imagine this feeling that they had seeing their lost
loved one that they grew up with and then rekindling
after seven years. So this is like, I mean, it's
a joy that's unexplainable.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
So I'm grateful.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I'm glad they have witness shit. I think this was
an eye opener. You know, it's never too late as
long as you have life too correct change, seek fine,
but don't give up.
Speaker 10 (18:50):
And maybe this would encourage somebody to come forward if
you were maybe missing a sibling, or if you are
in search of your own family, like, there are ways
that you can do it.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
There are ways, and.
Speaker 10 (19:04):
Even if you feel like something is missing, most of
the time it is. It is, So I encourage everybody
to find their families.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yes, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
This is organic now and it's not scripted. They speaking
from the heart and mind. We in the deep South
wind Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah, we got a pond, we got a.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Dirt road, we got with the wilderness all around us.
You know what's gonna pop out of them trees?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Man? Look, look, I'm a city boy. Yeah, I'm a yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Look beautiful butterflies I see.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah, I'm the city you know, and that ain't gonna change.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I need to be around people and around things.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I like concerts, I like grocery stores close, you know,
you know, yeah, this ain't my cup of tea. But hey,
it's beautiful though. It's quiet and feel peaceful.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
It's a good place to probably retire, you know, buy
some land.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
But you know, I need to be developed because out
here is wilderness.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
They love it.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
They great. It's generational. You know, this is generational. The
Hicks family, they own over one hundred acres. You know,
many of us in the past showed our acres and
moved and land and moved to the inner moved the
city's north up north.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
In the east coast.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
But out here they own about one hundred and something acres.
They all grew up here, generational one hundred and eighty acres.
And I'm looking at it and I'm standing on it.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
They grew up.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Here, Their grandfathers grew up here, their great great great fathers.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
So you know, this is this is their home.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
This is where they all grew up And the young
lady who found yes, she come on up here, come on.
What's your daughter's name again?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Casey? Casey. That's why I thought, what this is? Casey.
She's the one that found April.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I'm doing my podcast Maleak's Bookshelf, bringing the world together
with books, culture and community.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
But today you brought.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Together a long lost sister, a long loss that's your
neat Auntie, and today I wanted I'm talking to my audience,
but tell me about that experience and what made you
do it.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
The experience of finding my aunt.
Speaker 11 (21:42):
Honestly, it was very excited, fast faced.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
I was a girl.
Speaker 11 (21:48):
I was hoping first because mister Billy Ray remember that
he originally gave me.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
It was like it didn't come back to anything, and.
Speaker 11 (21:54):
I was a little scared and I'm like, I don't
know hypa found When my first day searching, I found
other ladies with the name April, I'm like, this be her,
but it was like they didn't seem right. And then
finally talking to my other aunt, I found I finally
found her, and honestly, it has been one of the
(22:16):
most exciting experiences ever.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
I'm in this speech class. I literally wrote my speech
pouder I got an.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
A wow, wonderful, wonderful and.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Hostually, I'm just happy to have her in my life.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Out Yeah, yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I'm mad your experience the reunion. After fifty years, April
finds out that she has family out here in Texas
in Arkansas, and the person I'm talking to right now
is the one that did the research, found enough connection
and pinned down and called her. I was sitting on
the couch when you called. When she got that call,
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she thought it was a telemarketer.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I remember that.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
I heard you in the background.
Speaker 11 (22:57):
You were on your computer talking about the ancestry and
never talked about like the Higgs.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
And all that.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I'm like, yeah, yeah, we did some twenty three and
meters with me and the family. And Hicks popped up
in her DNA at saying relatives, and that kind of
got her mind spinning too. Who's all these Hicks? And
I don't see Hagen. So that's beginning. But her mom
was already passed, her father was ill, her daddy that
(23:26):
raised her, so she wasn't aware at all about her
family out here and her biological dad. So this was
all new a surprise. But what comes out the dark
comes to the light. And you was part of that
reunion and reuniting of her relatives, and now she could
(23:48):
choose to be part of your family.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Wait, you ask me, how does that feel?
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah? How does that feel?
Speaker 6 (23:54):
This was amazing. It feels wonderful because the.
Speaker 11 (23:56):
Fact is that I'm walking this earth and I have
five other cousins, another uncle, another another, ain't it? And
I have all this amazing family. And the fact that
we were literally around the corner when we were visiting
my grandparents or my other uncle, and the fact that
we could have met y'all.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yep, y'all was on six. I believe we're on seven.
Were right down the street in Englewood.
Speaker 11 (24:20):
Yeah, it's just it's, honestly, just a surreal feeling. It's exciting.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
At first, you get a little confused and you're like,
ain't no way. But honestly, when I see y'all yest day,
I'm like, it's real.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
It is real, and we happy to meet you. Look
at that you got some West Coast on you right there.
Lord that death Road Records Death Road Record t shirt
on Los Angeles, yep, California.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Well, I hope my audience enjoyed that.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I'm glad that y'all was open to allow me to
interview you from a podcast. Malik's Bookshelf, bringing the world
together with books, culture, and community and I really appreciate it.
I think this will definitely inspire someone who has a
family member that they trying to connect with, this loss
or forgotten or whatever. This definitely gonna inspire them to
(25:22):
want to take some steps to reunite with a family member.
You know, you can't choose your relatives, but you could
choose your family. So seek you, seek them out, find them,
embrace them. You know, I'm sure I got relatives somewhere.
You know, we know the history of America, a lot
of us have been separated, but either forcefully or by choice.
(25:45):
But nevertheless, it's still family, still relatives.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
That is so thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
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