August 23, 2024 • 22 mins
Another big week at Malik Books! Tavis Smiley was there to discuss "The Covenant with Black America: 20 Years Later". Smiley spoke at Malik Books, along with Connie Rice, Mark Ridley-Thomas, Tyrone Howard, Melina Abdullah, Alisa Orduna and Cornel West!
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Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to Malik's Bookshelf, bringing a world together
with books, culture and community. Hi, my name is Malik,
your host of Malik's bookshef Woo. We had an eventful week,
an All Star week and community events that were hit, home, run,
(00:33):
electric and amazing. Well, the Covenant with Black America twenty
years later was very informative and quite enlightening, and I'm
going to feature in some of the conversations that took place.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Tavis Smiley has.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Updated this new book with new essays contributing Covenant. Yes,
we're at the event and they spoke and I was
able to record some of their words as Tavis Smiley
was the keynote speaker.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So I want to feature some of that.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Most enlightening conversation and talk that took place. So I
want to definite make that my main subject for this
particular episode. I want to also feature at a later
time the Jay Ellis event that we hosted that had
(01:34):
over four hundred attendees, and it also had a mini Insecure.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Reunion that took place.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
I'm going to probably address that next week, but this
particular episode this week, The Covenant with Black America Twenty
years Later by Tavis Smiley and contributing Covenant authors. We
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had a community event this week and the title of
the event was called The Covenant with Black America Twenty
years Later, and the keynote speaker and contributing.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Author and editor is Tavis Smiley.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
So this event had Covenant contributors and their names are
Connell West, Melina Abdullah, Connie Rights, Mark Willie Thomas, Elisa o'doona,
and Tyrone Howard.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
All of them.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Spoke just a little about the essays that they contributed
to in this new book, because it's been revamped and
the essays been updated, and it's called The Covenant with
Black America twenty years Later by Tavis Smiley. I was
able to record some of the words of the Covenant
contributors at the event, so I'm going to feature that
(02:55):
on this episode.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I'm gonna start with Tavis Smiley.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
This book has done a lot of work over the
last twenty years.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
So here we are now twenty years later with this
new edition of the text.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
And so we have.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Reached into the best of Black America to get a
variety of persons, thought leaders, opinion makers, influences to write.
Speaker 8 (03:16):
New essays for this edition twenty years later.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
We are fortunate that a number of these contributors in
the book, for those who already had it. A matter
of fact, turn if you got a book, we gotta
make my Bible studies being the church. This Bible study
you got if if you got your Bible, if you've
got your book, I'm sorry, I hold your book up.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Let me see this. Get that shot, Get that shot.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Pren you that shot, Get that shot, get that photo.
Hold you from something high everybody where your book sitting, hold.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yours in there, and way you just do care. So
we are fortunate. And it didn't really I didn't plan
it this way.
Speaker 8 (03:53):
I just reached out to some of the best and
most brilliant people that I know, asking them twenty years
later if they were to consider writing a new essay
for this text on these particular companies.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Tyrone Howard, can we.
Speaker 9 (04:08):
Show some serious and not give me some serious love
attention effects for brother Tamas.
Speaker 10 (04:13):
Right out of time like gim like, what are we
to give host the flowerpots? Were not to give the
flowers the brothers, There's not happening with our use your
vision and your commitment, your position and my mind, your
love for us, and so I just hope we love
on you the way you love on us. And so
I just want to say thank you for the vision,
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thank you for allowing me to be a part of this.
As you all know, for those who know me, for
those who don't, our education.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Have been my passion for a long time.
Speaker 9 (04:41):
And essentially what I've tried to capture in this particular
essay is that education has always been a harveuser of
basic human rights in this country.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
When you want to look at whenever Americans.
Speaker 9 (04:53):
Tried to show how it feels about black costs, all
you have to do is look at at schools, and
so the goal will be showed me the schools public
education that are done right, and then you can start
to tell me about how this country is serious levet
doing right by black folks. And so what I raised
are some real compelling questions that we must think about
moving forward when it comes to public education.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
One is this.
Speaker 9 (05:15):
Racial recording that we have seeing a massive and unprecedented
racial transformation in our schools in this country, and black
folks are becoming less and less and less the flavor
of the month, despite the fact that black folks have
always been the ones at the forefront of ensuring that
we have the highest quality of public schools. So part
of what we have to recognize in this country is
that Black folks, while our numbers continue to decrease in
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terms of public schools, we have still had the most impact.
We have still had the most for force and fight.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
And so I want to.
Speaker 9 (05:45):
Make sure that we don't lose the ways in which
black folks have been at the forefront of creating the
public schools that have the highest of quality.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Second thing I'll talk about.
Speaker 9 (05:54):
Real quick is I want us to find a way
to begin to be really unapologetic about the end of
the criminalization of black children in schools, in anything primalization,
because there's too much data that still shows the ways
in which black bodies are scrutinized, black bodies are surveilled,
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black bodies are policed all in public schools.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
You look at the data on.
Speaker 9 (06:19):
Who's most likely to be expelled, it's black children. You
look at the data, who's most likely to be suspended,
it's black children. You look at who has the highest
suspension rates of babies in pre school is black children.
I'll say that again, suspension of babies in pre school
is black children. So until we begin to have these
serious conversation about ending the criminalization and the policing of
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black children, we're not going to be serious about that.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
So the Covenant talks about how we have to.
Speaker 9 (06:45):
Get serious about making sure public education is right, that
we lift up the important role that racism has played
and continues to play in public education, and how we
create up more bright, better affirming, and loving public education systems.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Melina Abdullah, Hey everybody, Tabis, thank you for including me,
and thank you for look, I'm gonna just expose who
I am.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I like to follow through.
Speaker 11 (07:10):
On things that I'm also a hell of a procrastinator,
But you can't procrastinate with Tabas tennys Is.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Like you said at five o'clock, it's seven o'clock, right,
And so thank you for me.
Speaker 11 (07:20):
I'm patient looking me and thank you for including me
in the book, and so many things that have been
really really important, not just for me, but for this
movement and many of you have heard on streets that
Black Lives Matter is a thing of the past.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Right what lives matter moments is over? Say she looks,
they're liars. They're liars. We were getting.
Speaker 12 (07:42):
It's not over.
Speaker 11 (07:43):
It is not over when mainstream media, when corporations, when
white supremacy turns it ten.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
It's because we're affected.
Speaker 11 (07:53):
And so we have to remember that we are lions
who tell our own stories. And I'm so so grateful
to Brother Tabs for giving us a platform to tell.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Our own story. But this is not a drill. Every
single Saturday on kb LA, we're.
Speaker 11 (08:07):
Always including an uplifting movement and everything that he does.
So he asked me to write an essay on community policing,
which I absolutely do not believe in. And the reason
I don't believe in community policing is because I know
that police don't create safer communities resources too. And so
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the essay that I wrote comes in the name of
Wakisha Wilson, And so if you could say her name
with me, I'd appreciate it. Wakisha Wilson, say your name,
Say your name.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Wakisha Wilson was a thirty.
Speaker 11 (08:45):
Six year old black mother who was taken to Metro
Detention Center.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Here in Los Angeles for a very very.
Speaker 11 (08:54):
Reminder crime or so called crime for basically telling somebody off.
And her family didn't have a lot of extra money.
Her mother's an in home care worker, and so like
many of our folks, they made the decision that she
would stay in until Monday, when she could go in
front of a.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Judge and then be released on a walk. She didn't
live that long.
Speaker 11 (09:18):
She was killed inside LAPD Metro Detention Center and the
tape that surveiled her cell was deleted. There were twenty
two minutes of missing video. Here's what's worse is that
they never even bothered to tell her family. So her
mother frantically searched for her for four days before she
discovered that her daughter had been killed inside. So this
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essay is written in the name of Wakisha Wilson in
collaboration with sister Lisa Hines and sister Shila Hines, who's
her auntie has been struggling for justice in Wakisha's name
ever since Wakisha was killed in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
The premise of the essay is when we fled our.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Communities resources with things like housing with things like quality education.
Speaker 11 (10:04):
With healthcare, with livable wage jobs, with all the.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Things that our communities want, neat and deserve.
Speaker 11 (10:11):
Then we can remove police who cause harm from our
communities and instead have communities of care. So community policing
is different for me than.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
It is for many others who.
Speaker 11 (10:24):
Advocate having cops with guns and badges in their neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
That's never made me feel safer. I don't think it's
made most black people feel safe.
Speaker 11 (10:33):
What makes us feel safer is resources, and so I
encourage it to enter the essay for us to consider abolition,
which means tearing down systems of harm and building systems
of care that really nurture black people.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
When black people get free, everybody else off.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So I'm grateful to be able in Connie Rice, of.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Course of nature.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
You know, you galvanize, you organize, you mobilize. I've never
seen anybody, and I've been all around the country. No
one uses the media more strategically to fight some good fight.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I'm telling you a good fight, I'm telling everybody knows about.
It's wonderful to be here with you.
Speaker 13 (11:17):
I did.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
You can skip my essay. All I did was I'm
in I'm in uh Taviss, like, can't you make it broader?
Cause I said, no, No, we got one thing to
do this year. We we we cannot let a white.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Nationalists supremacist get in the White House.
Speaker 13 (11:32):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
That's how I got. If you want me to write something,
that's all. I feel like frightening you're gonna have to
do so anything. You forbting me. I'm surprised you inviting
me back. I don't expect any that find My message was.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Justice is a relay. My my grandmother told me. She said,
because I started to complaining about Raven. Okay, she said,
you don't have the right to complain. You have learned
the right to complain.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
M until you've had to sit in your kitchen.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
In Birmingham, Alabama, with the lights out and a long
gun over your knee, waiting for the klan. Mm I
wanna hear you can play about anything. All you have
to do is walk through the doors we died to open.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
So justice is a relay. You take that Batona, don't
drop it like my guard folks did in Paris.
Speaker 11 (12:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
That's not the women's teams dat I can remember crack
swimming and.
Speaker 10 (12:35):
Drop your not drop the batonas I'm like.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
My grandmother said that justice is not a sprint, it
is a relay, and generation to generation you hand out
the town on and you run like the wind. And
so now on our watch, this is our watch, it's
our watch. Our folks had a my grandparents and my
great grandparents. I'm the great granddaughter of slaves and slave owners.
Just great, not great, gready, just great. It's been four
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generations from my family. That happens if you were the
youngest of the of ten and fifteen kids and they
all lived in ninety that's how that happens.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
But you know, it just hadn't been that long. When's
the person.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Who's the child of slaves, the last child of slaves
to die?
Speaker 12 (13:20):
Do you know?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
When he died two years ago? Two years ago, died
in Washington, DC, and they documented that.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
His father was born into slavery.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
So it has not been that long. But we have
come a long way, with much much further to go.
This is our watch. It's never been easier to fight
this fight. Many some of us face dead, but not many.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
All our great grandparents face dead trying to vindicate African
American rights and so my little essay, I'm sorry to have.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Us say, you know, it came in. I said, this
is all I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, I said, I love I love folks expressing their opinions.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
We are one job because it's bad. Somebody said, why
do you do a why do you.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Support the constitution and enshrined your inferior already as a
woman and as an African American?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Why do you fight?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I said, because without that document we probably do.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Be pub pickn.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Cotton freed slaves and escaped slaves, freed themselves and made
Lincoln realize that he had end slavery.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
We gave him that idea, our ancestors gave him that because.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
He needed to free us in the rebellion States to
win the war.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
It was out of any altruism. I don't know whether
you believe. You know, he wanted to deport us after
we were free.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So let's understand we were freed by all white supremacist
but we don't know. Let the second one get in, all, okay,
So I my little lessay is you vote for whoever
is and get to two hundred and seventy, two hundred
and seventy if we can count electoral College one of
the artifacts of slavery.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
It locked in the power of the Southern States. We
still have it.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It's still tilted toward the anti African American liberation forces.
The electoral college is one thing, the filibusters Another's a
whole drop down many of the things we have to
do to fix this democracy.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
But we got to have a democracy to fix. Okay,
so that you know I'm all for it. Listen, It's
not gonna be my candidate.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
You know, folks I want probably can't get elected in
my lifetime, but we better go.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
We've got a much of it.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Harris has put us back on the board and back
on the court, and.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
She's making three three point shots and we need to
get behind here. I don't care if you'd agree with
everything about her. That's how we get the democracy. So
that's what my essay is about. In Tavis, thank you
for inviting me back. I'll probably be dead at the time.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
You can do it in another twenty years, Alissa o'donah.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Sometimes you wake.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Up in the morning and you're wondering, are we making
a difference, How do we sustain ourselves in the work.
How do you not get burned out when you see
so many of our brothers and sisters, aunties and mamas
out on the street.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
And I remember my uncle Ray.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
Who growing up in this community with experienced homelessness after
World War Two, and I remember my mom. We would
always go to a local barbershop or a bar to
look for him. And at that point our community was
able to sustain enough or we had some resource.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Not all doctor Villa.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
We need more always, but at least there was a
sense of community where we could look after each other.
And back then, we didn't know something of being uncowled
or the term of homelessness. We just knew this was
our loved one and the community helped us take care
of him because he didn't want to come inside. So
fast forwarding to that where we have four out of
ten people experiencing homelessness across this country are our brothers
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and sisters.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
When we look at the state of.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
California, every counting, I literally the data, we are disproportionate
compared to our census count in the homelessness population. Only
Native Americans come after us. So this is a real crisis.
And Tatus and Supervisor, I'm really thankful because we don't
talk about.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
It as a national issue.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
We talk about it when it's on our doorstep. We're
wondering what do we do about it. But when you
look around the room, and if we ever had time,
maybe there were days of dial up to understand how
many people where homelessness has been a part of their
own story. Maybe they live in the car, maybe they
live with a friend. At some point you understand the
structural It's not a personal responsibility issue. And so I'm
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so glad that we're able to take it tonight to
a national level.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
So thank you, Mark Ridley Thomas.
Speaker 12 (17:43):
I'm simply in the context of the state of Felipe,
although it should be appreciated that this state has the
largest proportion of homeless people across people within any state
in the United States. It is a crisis across the nation,
basically disproportionately African American. And it's interesting today not this
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in terms of no matter what city, county, state, you
find yourself that the disproportionate skew is toward African Americans
facing this crisis, and that has prescriptive implications in terms
of how we address it. And so for us in
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this essay, we try to make the point that homelessness
is the manifestation, the contemporary manifestation of structural violence. It
is essentially to say that Black people have to contend
with the.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Rough edge, the hard edge of poverty. It is called homelessness.
Speaker 12 (18:54):
And I know if I want to survey the room,
somebody here would raise their hand and say either they
know someone who has been or is homeless, the homeless,
who has experienced homelessness with themselves.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
This is what I want to leave you with. And
I'll step aside.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Cornell west yea.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Who is holding up the bludstay Ganna.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
To support this book. Just movement. We know the Black
street of movement.
Speaker 13 (19:23):
Has always been the eleven in the American Democratic lowest
tide of Drew.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Tellen and Justin c and Brother Tamas. I want to
begin by saluting you, my bride.
Speaker 13 (19:35):
You have been.
Speaker 10 (19:39):
We have been blessed to be brothers now for over
thirty five yeah.
Speaker 13 (19:44):
Old of the countrict and the world, trying to be
true to Frederick Douglas and I to.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Be Wales, Martin King and Patty Nohema and so many others.
I wanted a little to court mark really common and
I think I heard the game, and I give it
as the biggest love up before.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
We can buy stuff from the part of it.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Both dynamic duo.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
When it comes to forces of good in the.
Speaker 13 (20:16):
Plos and July, oh Lord have pursed. And then my
running made my.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Dear sister my day. I'm doing together, but the.
Speaker 12 (20:38):
Others in solidarity with the president Brown family.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
So the kind of running it's hard to find out, sharper,
legal and social kind of drink into our struggle and
it goes on and on and on and so many
others there. I don't want to take your time.
Speaker 13 (20:57):
I want the book signing to be in but.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Heat in mind that twenty.
Speaker 12 (21:03):
Years later we're still on fighter.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Twenty years later, we still as committed, as dedicated and
as do.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
People.
Speaker 13 (21:13):
But you ain't on the chocolate side of town and
before working people around the world. And yes we're toys bears,
Yes we're relay brunners.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Yes we loved witers, Yes your freedom.
Speaker 12 (21:25):
Fighters, yes with toy spreaders.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yes what woulded he is?
Speaker 10 (21:29):
That's part of the part of who we are as
a black people at our best, a great Black people
at our best.
Speaker 13 (21:37):
That's what the Covenant is about.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
Twenty years ago with Brolla, I can't Third World Press.
Speaker 12 (21:41):
Twenty years later, we still swing.
Speaker 13 (21:44):
In brother Town.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, were.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
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The whole wild world one up read.
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Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to Malik's Bookshelf, bringing a world together
with books, culture and community. Hi, my name is Malik,
your host of Malik's bookshef Woo. We had an eventful week,
an All Star week and community events that were hit, home, run,
(00:33):
electric and amazing. Well, the Covenant with Black America twenty
years later was very informative and quite enlightening, and I'm
going to feature in some of the conversations that took place.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Tavis Smiley has.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Updated this new book with new essays contributing Covenant. Yes,
we're at the event and they spoke and I was
able to record some of their words as Tavis Smiley
was the keynote speaker.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So I want to feature some of that.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Most enlightening conversation and talk that took place. So I
want to definite make that my main subject for this
particular episode. I want to also feature at a later
time the Jay Ellis event that we hosted that had
(01:34):
over four hundred attendees, and it also had a mini Insecure.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Reunion that took place.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
I'm going to probably address that next week, but this
particular episode this week, The Covenant with Black America Twenty
years Later by Tavis Smiley and contributing Covenant authors. We
(02:04):
had a community event this week and the title of
the event was called The Covenant with Black America Twenty
years Later, and the keynote speaker and contributing.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Author and editor is Tavis Smiley.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
So this event had Covenant contributors and their names are
Connell West, Melina Abdullah, Connie Rights, Mark Willie Thomas, Elisa o'doona,
and Tyrone Howard.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
All of them.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Spoke just a little about the essays that they contributed
to in this new book, because it's been revamped and
the essays been updated, and it's called The Covenant with
Black America twenty years Later by Tavis Smiley. I was
able to record some of the words of the Covenant
contributors at the event, so I'm going to feature that
(02:55):
on this episode.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I'm gonna start with Tavis Smiley.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
This book has done a lot of work over the
last twenty years.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
So here we are now twenty years later with this
new edition of the text.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
And so we have.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Reached into the best of Black America to get a
variety of persons, thought leaders, opinion makers, influences to write.
Speaker 8 (03:16):
New essays for this edition twenty years later.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
We are fortunate that a number of these contributors in
the book, for those who already had it. A matter
of fact, turn if you got a book, we gotta
make my Bible studies being the church. This Bible study
you got if if you got your Bible, if you've
got your book, I'm sorry, I hold your book up.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Let me see this. Get that shot, Get that shot.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Pren you that shot, Get that shot, get that photo.
Hold you from something high everybody where your book sitting, hold.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yours in there, and way you just do care. So
we are fortunate. And it didn't really I didn't plan
it this way.
Speaker 8 (03:53):
I just reached out to some of the best and
most brilliant people that I know, asking them twenty years
later if they were to consider writing a new essay
for this text on these particular companies.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Tyrone Howard, can we.
Speaker 9 (04:08):
Show some serious and not give me some serious love
attention effects for brother Tamas.
Speaker 10 (04:13):
Right out of time like gim like, what are we
to give host the flowerpots? Were not to give the
flowers the brothers, There's not happening with our use your
vision and your commitment, your position and my mind, your
love for us, and so I just hope we love
on you the way you love on us. And so
I just want to say thank you for the vision,
(04:33):
thank you for allowing me to be a part of this.
As you all know, for those who know me, for
those who don't, our education.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Have been my passion for a long time.
Speaker 9 (04:41):
And essentially what I've tried to capture in this particular
essay is that education has always been a harveuser of
basic human rights in this country.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
When you want to look at whenever Americans.
Speaker 9 (04:53):
Tried to show how it feels about black costs, all
you have to do is look at at schools, and
so the goal will be showed me the schools public
education that are done right, and then you can start
to tell me about how this country is serious levet
doing right by black folks. And so what I raised
are some real compelling questions that we must think about
moving forward when it comes to public education.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
One is this.
Speaker 9 (05:15):
Racial recording that we have seeing a massive and unprecedented
racial transformation in our schools in this country, and black
folks are becoming less and less and less the flavor
of the month, despite the fact that black folks have
always been the ones at the forefront of ensuring that
we have the highest quality of public schools. So part
of what we have to recognize in this country is
that Black folks, while our numbers continue to decrease in
(05:38):
terms of public schools, we have still had the most impact.
We have still had the most for force and fight.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
And so I want to.
Speaker 9 (05:45):
Make sure that we don't lose the ways in which
black folks have been at the forefront of creating the
public schools that have the highest of quality.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Second thing I'll talk about.
Speaker 9 (05:54):
Real quick is I want us to find a way
to begin to be really unapologetic about the end of
the criminalization of black children in schools, in anything primalization,
because there's too much data that still shows the ways
in which black bodies are scrutinized, black bodies are surveilled,
(06:15):
black bodies are policed all in public schools.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
You look at the data on.
Speaker 9 (06:19):
Who's most likely to be expelled, it's black children. You
look at the data, who's most likely to be suspended,
it's black children. You look at who has the highest
suspension rates of babies in pre school is black children.
I'll say that again, suspension of babies in pre school
is black children. So until we begin to have these
serious conversation about ending the criminalization and the policing of
(06:41):
black children, we're not going to be serious about that.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
So the Covenant talks about how we have to.
Speaker 9 (06:45):
Get serious about making sure public education is right, that
we lift up the important role that racism has played
and continues to play in public education, and how we
create up more bright, better affirming, and loving public education systems.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Melina Abdullah, Hey everybody, Tabis, thank you for including me,
and thank you for look, I'm gonna just expose who
I am.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I like to follow through.
Speaker 11 (07:10):
On things that I'm also a hell of a procrastinator,
But you can't procrastinate with Tabas tennys Is.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Like you said at five o'clock, it's seven o'clock, right,
And so thank you for me.
Speaker 11 (07:20):
I'm patient looking me and thank you for including me
in the book, and so many things that have been
really really important, not just for me, but for this
movement and many of you have heard on streets that
Black Lives Matter is a thing of the past.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Right what lives matter moments is over? Say she looks,
they're liars. They're liars. We were getting.
Speaker 12 (07:42):
It's not over.
Speaker 11 (07:43):
It is not over when mainstream media, when corporations, when
white supremacy turns it ten.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
It's because we're affected.
Speaker 11 (07:53):
And so we have to remember that we are lions
who tell our own stories. And I'm so so grateful
to Brother Tabs for giving us a platform to tell.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Our own story. But this is not a drill. Every
single Saturday on kb LA, we're.
Speaker 11 (08:07):
Always including an uplifting movement and everything that he does.
So he asked me to write an essay on community policing,
which I absolutely do not believe in. And the reason
I don't believe in community policing is because I know
that police don't create safer communities resources too. And so
(08:29):
the essay that I wrote comes in the name of
Wakisha Wilson, And so if you could say her name
with me, I'd appreciate it. Wakisha Wilson, say your name,
Say your name.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Wakisha Wilson was a thirty.
Speaker 11 (08:45):
Six year old black mother who was taken to Metro
Detention Center.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Here in Los Angeles for a very very.
Speaker 11 (08:54):
Reminder crime or so called crime for basically telling somebody off.
And her family didn't have a lot of extra money.
Her mother's an in home care worker, and so like
many of our folks, they made the decision that she
would stay in until Monday, when she could go in
front of a.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Judge and then be released on a walk. She didn't
live that long.
Speaker 11 (09:18):
She was killed inside LAPD Metro Detention Center and the
tape that surveiled her cell was deleted. There were twenty
two minutes of missing video. Here's what's worse is that
they never even bothered to tell her family. So her
mother frantically searched for her for four days before she
discovered that her daughter had been killed inside. So this
(09:43):
essay is written in the name of Wakisha Wilson in
collaboration with sister Lisa Hines and sister Shila Hines, who's
her auntie has been struggling for justice in Wakisha's name
ever since Wakisha was killed in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
The premise of the essay is when we fled our.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Communities resources with things like housing with things like quality education.
Speaker 11 (10:04):
With healthcare, with livable wage jobs, with all the.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Things that our communities want, neat and deserve.
Speaker 11 (10:11):
Then we can remove police who cause harm from our
communities and instead have communities of care. So community policing
is different for me than.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
It is for many others who.
Speaker 11 (10:24):
Advocate having cops with guns and badges in their neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
That's never made me feel safer. I don't think it's
made most black people feel safe.
Speaker 11 (10:33):
What makes us feel safer is resources, and so I
encourage it to enter the essay for us to consider abolition,
which means tearing down systems of harm and building systems
of care that really nurture black people.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
When black people get free, everybody else off.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So I'm grateful to be able in Connie Rice, of.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Course of nature.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
You know, you galvanize, you organize, you mobilize. I've never
seen anybody, and I've been all around the country. No
one uses the media more strategically to fight some good fight.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I'm telling you a good fight, I'm telling everybody knows about.
It's wonderful to be here with you.
Speaker 13 (11:17):
I did.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
You can skip my essay. All I did was I'm
in I'm in uh Taviss, like, can't you make it broader?
Cause I said, no, No, we got one thing to
do this year. We we we cannot let a white.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Nationalists supremacist get in the White House.
Speaker 13 (11:32):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
That's how I got. If you want me to write something,
that's all. I feel like frightening you're gonna have to
do so anything. You forbting me. I'm surprised you inviting
me back. I don't expect any that find My message was.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Justice is a relay. My my grandmother told me. She said,
because I started to complaining about Raven. Okay, she said,
you don't have the right to complain. You have learned
the right to complain.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
M until you've had to sit in your kitchen.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
In Birmingham, Alabama, with the lights out and a long
gun over your knee, waiting for the klan. Mm I
wanna hear you can play about anything. All you have
to do is walk through the doors we died to open.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
So justice is a relay. You take that Batona, don't
drop it like my guard folks did in Paris.
Speaker 11 (12:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
That's not the women's teams dat I can remember crack
swimming and.
Speaker 10 (12:35):
Drop your not drop the batonas I'm like.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
My grandmother said that justice is not a sprint, it
is a relay, and generation to generation you hand out
the town on and you run like the wind. And
so now on our watch, this is our watch, it's
our watch. Our folks had a my grandparents and my
great grandparents. I'm the great granddaughter of slaves and slave owners.
Just great, not great, gready, just great. It's been four
(13:01):
generations from my family. That happens if you were the
youngest of the of ten and fifteen kids and they
all lived in ninety that's how that happens.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
But you know, it just hadn't been that long. When's
the person.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Who's the child of slaves, the last child of slaves
to die?
Speaker 12 (13:20):
Do you know?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
When he died two years ago? Two years ago, died
in Washington, DC, and they documented that.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
His father was born into slavery.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
So it has not been that long. But we have
come a long way, with much much further to go.
This is our watch. It's never been easier to fight
this fight. Many some of us face dead, but not many.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
All our great grandparents face dead trying to vindicate African
American rights and so my little essay, I'm sorry to have.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Us say, you know, it came in. I said, this
is all I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, I said, I love I love folks expressing their opinions.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
We are one job because it's bad. Somebody said, why
do you do a why do you.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Support the constitution and enshrined your inferior already as a
woman and as an African American?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Why do you fight?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I said, because without that document we probably do.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Be pub pickn.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Cotton freed slaves and escaped slaves, freed themselves and made
Lincoln realize that he had end slavery.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
We gave him that idea, our ancestors gave him that because.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
He needed to free us in the rebellion States to
win the war.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
It was out of any altruism. I don't know whether
you believe. You know, he wanted to deport us after
we were free.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So let's understand we were freed by all white supremacist
but we don't know. Let the second one get in, all, okay,
So I my little lessay is you vote for whoever
is and get to two hundred and seventy, two hundred
and seventy if we can count electoral College one of
the artifacts of slavery.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
It locked in the power of the Southern States. We
still have it.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
It's still tilted toward the anti African American liberation forces.
The electoral college is one thing, the filibusters Another's a
whole drop down many of the things we have to
do to fix this democracy.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
But we got to have a democracy to fix. Okay,
so that you know I'm all for it. Listen, It's
not gonna be my candidate.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
You know, folks I want probably can't get elected in
my lifetime, but we better go.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
We've got a much of it.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Harris has put us back on the board and back
on the court, and.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
She's making three three point shots and we need to
get behind here. I don't care if you'd agree with
everything about her. That's how we get the democracy. So
that's what my essay is about. In Tavis, thank you
for inviting me back. I'll probably be dead at the time.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
You can do it in another twenty years, Alissa o'donah.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Sometimes you wake.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Up in the morning and you're wondering, are we making
a difference, How do we sustain ourselves in the work.
How do you not get burned out when you see
so many of our brothers and sisters, aunties and mamas
out on the street.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
And I remember my uncle Ray.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
Who growing up in this community with experienced homelessness after
World War Two, and I remember my mom. We would
always go to a local barbershop or a bar to
look for him. And at that point our community was
able to sustain enough or we had some resource.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Not all doctor Villa.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
We need more always, but at least there was a
sense of community where we could look after each other.
And back then, we didn't know something of being uncowled
or the term of homelessness. We just knew this was
our loved one and the community helped us take care
of him because he didn't want to come inside. So
fast forwarding to that where we have four out of
ten people experiencing homelessness across this country are our brothers
(16:55):
and sisters.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
When we look at the state of.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
California, every counting, I literally the data, we are disproportionate
compared to our census count in the homelessness population. Only
Native Americans come after us. So this is a real crisis.
And Tatus and Supervisor, I'm really thankful because we don't
talk about.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
It as a national issue.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
We talk about it when it's on our doorstep. We're
wondering what do we do about it. But when you
look around the room, and if we ever had time,
maybe there were days of dial up to understand how
many people where homelessness has been a part of their
own story. Maybe they live in the car, maybe they
live with a friend. At some point you understand the
structural It's not a personal responsibility issue. And so I'm
(17:37):
so glad that we're able to take it tonight to
a national level.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
So thank you, Mark Ridley Thomas.
Speaker 12 (17:43):
I'm simply in the context of the state of Felipe,
although it should be appreciated that this state has the
largest proportion of homeless people across people within any state
in the United States. It is a crisis across the nation,
basically disproportionately African American. And it's interesting today not this
(18:07):
in terms of no matter what city, county, state, you
find yourself that the disproportionate skew is toward African Americans
facing this crisis, and that has prescriptive implications in terms
of how we address it. And so for us in
(18:31):
this essay, we try to make the point that homelessness
is the manifestation, the contemporary manifestation of structural violence. It
is essentially to say that Black people have to contend
with the.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Rough edge, the hard edge of poverty. It is called homelessness.
Speaker 12 (18:54):
And I know if I want to survey the room,
somebody here would raise their hand and say either they
know someone who has been or is homeless, the homeless,
who has experienced homelessness with themselves.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
This is what I want to leave you with. And
I'll step aside.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Cornell west yea.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Who is holding up the bludstay Ganna.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
To support this book. Just movement. We know the Black
street of movement.
Speaker 13 (19:23):
Has always been the eleven in the American Democratic lowest
tide of Drew.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Tellen and Justin c and Brother Tamas. I want to
begin by saluting you, my bride.
Speaker 13 (19:35):
You have been.
Speaker 10 (19:39):
We have been blessed to be brothers now for over
thirty five yeah.
Speaker 13 (19:44):
Old of the countrict and the world, trying to be
true to Frederick Douglas and I to.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Be Wales, Martin King and Patty Nohema and so many others.
I wanted a little to court mark really common and
I think I heard the game, and I give it
as the biggest love up before.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
We can buy stuff from the part of it.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Both dynamic duo.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
When it comes to forces of good in the.
Speaker 13 (20:16):
Plos and July, oh Lord have pursed. And then my
running made my.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Dear sister my day. I'm doing together, but the.
Speaker 12 (20:38):
Others in solidarity with the president Brown family.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
So the kind of running it's hard to find out, sharper,
legal and social kind of drink into our struggle and
it goes on and on and on and so many
others there. I don't want to take your time.
Speaker 13 (20:57):
I want the book signing to be in but.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Heat in mind that twenty.
Speaker 12 (21:03):
Years later we're still on fighter.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Twenty years later, we still as committed, as dedicated and
as do.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
People.
Speaker 13 (21:13):
But you ain't on the chocolate side of town and
before working people around the world. And yes we're toys bears,
Yes we're relay brunners.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Yes we loved witers, Yes your freedom.
Speaker 12 (21:25):
Fighters, yes with toy spreaders.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yes what woulded he is?
Speaker 10 (21:29):
That's part of the part of who we are as
a black people at our best, a great Black people
at our best.
Speaker 13 (21:37):
That's what the Covenant is about.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
Twenty years ago with Brolla, I can't Third World Press.
Speaker 12 (21:41):
Twenty years later, we still swing.
Speaker 13 (21:44):
In brother Town.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, were.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Thanks for listening to Malik's bookshelf with topics on the
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