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July 14, 2024 • 27 mins

Malik has thoughts on the big news event this weekend out of Pennsylvania, and he takes the temperature of patrons inside Malik Books as well.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to Malie's Bookshelf, bringing a world together
with books.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Culture and community.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hi, my name is Malik, your host a Malise's Bookshelf. Well,
I'm kind of speechless. I don't know about you, because
the great divide is upon us in this country. I
had to speak on the attempted assassination of president, former

(00:29):
President Donald J.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Trump. Everybody's talking about it.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
It's on every channel, so I had to talk about
this great divide.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Wow, wow, I can't believe what I just witnessed today
July thirteenth, twenty twenty four, that the hatred and the
great divide in America over political views has led to

(01:09):
the attempted sassination of a former president.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Donald J.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Trump was just shot at an attempted sassination centimeters from
a bullet being shot in the head. It pierced his
ear and created blood on his face and cheek as

(01:38):
he dropped to the floor, and his Secret Service jumped
all over him to cover him as they pinned Donald
Trump down. I guess the Secret Service and other counter
agencies shot the shooter dead on top of a roof
two hundred to three hundred meters away from where Trump

(02:03):
was hosting a riley in Butler, Pennsylvania. This was most striking.
It's on every channel, it's on every radio station, it's
all over social media. This is his history and everyone

(02:27):
is talking about it. What has happened in this nation
that a person would want to assassinate a former president
because of policy difference, because you view certain policies different,
have a different belief system in which you will want

(02:49):
to see a former president and the leading candidate of
the Republican Party assassinated because you don't think you can
beat him at the polls, or you think he's a
threat to democracy. When the president doesn't even run the country,

(03:11):
he's just a spokesperson. There are forces in this world
that are far more powerful than the president of the
United States. The president is a spokesman for the rich
and the elite, and he answers to a lot of

(03:33):
their policies. If you think a corporation or a wealthy
family is going to donate millions and millions of dollars
to a presidential campaign and don't expect something in return,

(03:55):
I don't know what alternate world you live in. Most
people might get twenty dollars, thirty dollars or whatever to
a politician. But what about these families and organizations to
give millions to one candidate and you think that they
don't have influence once you take that money. So for

(04:18):
someone to want to assassinate the president as if the
president solely runs this country when he is surrounded with
advisors in top elite officials to aid him in the
policies and the decisions. But outside of that, you're dealing

(04:40):
with lobbyists who have tremendous influence on the political process
and on policy. But to think that someone that just
gives you ten million, fifty million, one hundred million to
run your campaign so that you can win, and you

(05:00):
think that they don't have ideological and political policies that
they want implemented.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Let's get will.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
So the fact that both parties, a Democrat and Republicans
are saying some of the most outrageous things against each
other creates a climate and an environment where someone could
be incited to assassinate and murder a political rival.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
And that's what is taking place.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
On July thirteenth, an attempted assassination on Donald J. Trump,
the former president, the forty fifth president of the United States,
how outrageous of a nation where you can't have differences

(06:06):
in running for a political office the president of the
United States and be threatened because of your views and
your part. Let me say this, it doesn't matter who
wins the election. The reality is that America is not
going away. America is not going to be destroyed. America

(06:30):
is an institution, and no matter what president sits in
that seat is not gonna change the fact that America
is still gonna continue. The idea that if one of
them win, the threat to democracy it ends. This is

(06:52):
insane to even think that that would be the case.
You in there four years and you're out. Now someone
else come in, got their views, four years.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Later they out.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
But to think that you can vote for whom you want.
But the reality is to assassinate arrival because you feel
that he's threatening. Of him winning in America overnight, it's
just going to be destroyed because of a few policy changes.

(07:28):
Black people in America have survived slavery. And if you
think that if Trump winning or Biden winning is going
to disrupt or stop the opportunity to be successful in America,
I'm here to tell you that you're wrong in that

(07:48):
type of thinking. We have survived slavery, we have survival pression,
we have survived racism and discrimination and all kinds of
acts of uninjustice. So the idea that somebody who becomes
president all of a sudden is going to stop our
ability to be successful in winning America when we have

(08:11):
survived and been resilient and been successful despite slavery, despite racism,
despite all of the atrocities that have happened in to us.
We can only stop ourselves, and no president can stop
us if we're willing to do what it takes to
continue on the path of success. But let me tell

(08:35):
you that requires change because a lot of things in
our community I'm talking about the black community is not cope, esthetic,
is not appropriate, is not good for our community, is
not good for the culture, and it's not good for
us as a people. But yet anyone that sits in

(08:57):
that seat of president has nothing to do with teenage presidency, obesity,
poor health, black on black crime, black on black murder, addiction, alcohol, cocaine, crack,
all other kind of ulicit drugs that take place in

(09:20):
our community. I'm just saying. The point here is that
we got a lot of problems in our communities and
whoever becomes president is not going to solve those problems.
We gotta solve those problems. But that's another issue for
another time. But today, the attempted assassination of former President

(09:44):
Donald J. Trump is a sign of a very dangerous
time in America where words are being used to incite
violence and influence people to do acts of unthinkable. This
has to stop where we have to get back to

(10:09):
the conversation and we don't have to degree, but we
can debate and we can discuss our differences. It's a
shame that you can't even sit down at a table
with your own family and discuss politics and religion without
an argument and a fight, because we've become so strong

(10:33):
in our opinions that it becomes an argument with anger
and hateful passion and incredibly defensive. So in this country,
we need to calm down and get to a point
where we can talk our differences and be able to

(10:56):
unite on our differences back another person's belief in ideology.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
We never are.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Going to see things one hundred but I know one thing,
it's our differences that have caused the changes in America
for the better that never would have been a Martin
Luther King or Malcolm X or any other activist or

(11:26):
a person who devoted their life for change for the better.
Violence is not the answer. Violence will not solve our differences.
Violence is not the key for lasting change.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Now.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
I'm not saying if someone attacked you that you don't
defend yourself, because you got a right to defend yourself.
You have a pursuit of liberty in life. I'm not
saying that you turn the other cheek out somebody is
to kill you and murder you. What I'm saying is

(12:05):
just to go out and premeditate to kill someone when
you can use the power of your words to change.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Now, if you're attacked, fight with those who fight with
you and defend yourself, but.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Don't be the aggressor.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I'm at Belief Books, as I do always, I randomly
ask customers their thoughts about a particular subject, and yesterday
there could be no other subject that's more important than
the attempted assassination of Donald J.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Trump.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I want to ask a customer randomly her thoughts about
this attempting assassination.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Half an inch later, it would have been over. It
would have been over.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, and what's your thoughts about the great divibe? People
seem to want to take things to the extreme and
use violence in an effort to determine the outcome of
the upcoming election. If the justice system did its job,

(13:15):
we wouldn't be having this problem.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Guilty guilty?

Speaker 1 (13:21):
So you think that if their justice system would have
imprisoned the leading Republican camp Well, actually, he's about to
take the anomination of the Republican Party's upcoming week that
the Justice Department should have jailed him, imprisoned him since
they convicted him in the hush money case they called.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yes, I think that he should have been jail So
you believe he's absolutely guilty. I believe he's guilty. I
don't know about absolutely because I didn't have anything to
do with it.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Better, do you think that you do believe he's guilty?
But do you think what happened yesterday was justified?

Speaker 3 (14:01):
No?

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Like I said, if he had been in prison, we
wouldn't have had to worry about that.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
You don't advocate violence, No, No, that's never the answer.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Well, thank you, thank you, thank you for your thoughts.
I appreciate that. I'm gonna roll up on these other
two this in the store now, and I'm gonna ask
them their thoughts, like, Hey, hey, how y'all doing.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Welcome to Malik Books. I just had a brief question.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
You know.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I got a podcast called Malice's Bookshelf, bringing the world
together with books, culture and community.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
But right now I'm doing it.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
I'm doing a episode on the Great Divide, the attempting
assassination of Donald J.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Chump.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
I just want to get your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
I'm the wrong one to ask because I think it
was all a set up and I think it was
not real. It was fake, because what secret service is
gonna allow the attempted a target of an assassinate assassination
to jump up and do a photo op fist picture.
So I just don't I don't believe nothing he does nothing.
Everything he does is stage. Everything he does is for

(15:02):
his benefit.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Do you think that he caused the death and the
injury of two other people?

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Yes, I think that they would be like, Okay, that's
just I mean, they probably told a guy not to
shoot at anybody, but you know, bull, it's gonna go
where they go, and the people got collateral damage and
they okay with that?

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Wow, And you think he orchestrated in line with the
Secret Service.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
I think that there was some secret service there, and
then the other ones were not real secret service, probably
his hired bodyguards or whatever. And yes, yes, I believe
it all.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
I believe. So this wasn't a lone wolf.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
I believe they were all in on it. I was
a lone wolf, probably shooter, but he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
He was working with Trump hired this person or somebody
around him, hired this person who knew.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
He was going to go on on the suicide mission.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Maybe we don't know, but but I definitely I'm but
I definitely don't think it was just a real assassination. No,
I do not think so.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Even when two when one person died, two people died,
the shooter and an attendee and too seriously critically injured.
That ye, yes, I still don't think.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
You Come on, brother, I know you got some thought.
I know you got some thought.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
You want to keep it to yourself because you don't
want to be in disagreement with your wife. I love
to hear your thoughts on that. I love to hear
your thoughts. Hey, hey, you know you.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Can't turn the channel without hearing this.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
You can't turn the radio station walk them talking about it,
and you can't go on social media without them talking
about this.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
This is you know is.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
And I think that's what you wanted. Everybody's talking about
Biden and Biden and Biden by he goes, I'm gonna
turn it back on me.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
There. You so you really.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Think Trump is that malicious that he would plot to
get shot at and.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Is graising somebody's ears his head. It would have been
blown off. We you missed, no, he ain't no, miss
he ain't no, missed, ain't no missed.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
The twenty you.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Fake blood.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Well I can assume by your statement that you're definitely
not a fan of Donald J.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Trump, not at all.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you God, thank you for
visiting Elik Books.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
I'm just going around for my podcast asking my cut.
I'm the owner of Elik and I just want to
get your thoughts on the attempted assassination of Donald J.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Trump yesterday.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
I didn't really hear about it until like this morning.
This morning, I saw this in the year Yes, yeah,
that's all. I don't really know anything about it. I
saw the picture of him pulling his fistuff after he
got shot well, what.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
You think about that picture?

Speaker 3 (17:51):
H and it's it literally it's a kind of a
cool picture for assassination at times.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Right right.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
It reminded me when I saw that picture of Immajima,
a statue that they made trying to take this heel
and the soldiers was holding the flag, and you know,
it looked like one of those type of that picture
is going to be historic because the flag over him,
the fisshed up the Secret Service. I mean, whoever made

(18:20):
that shot? That was the money shot that was.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
That was awesome. That was a cool picture. So do
you think violence is to answer?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
No?

Speaker 3 (18:32):
I think that in order to build a more compassion
in society, we need to do it through compassion, not
through violence, you know what I mean. And so if
you want a world that's more love, we got to
fight it through love, not through violence.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
So this action they took place to shoot her, they're
still under investigation. But you don't agree with him trying
to silence somebody just because he has a difference in
an ideology and opinion.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Even though I don't agree with it, is that Trump,
I still don't think you should kill anybody in the
MA regardless opinion. It's their right to believe how they want,
you know what I mean. And I think that, honestly,
it's a slippery, seppy shart shooting people you don't like
on the other side, they start shooting people on your side,
and it's a war. That's not what anybody.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Wants, you know.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yes, yes, I think violence is definitely not the key,
not the answer. I mean, I'm not saying that if
you're attacked, you have a right to defend like this
the counter and telling the shot that God did. I
saw that because of the fact that he tried to
kill someone.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
He was the aggressor.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
So in a situation like that, sometimes you got to
meet it with violence. So they killed the guy because
he was trying to kill Pete.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
That's fair because he was he had a gun, he
was dangerous. But I'm not saying I'm not talking about
like other parties.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
This guy met premeditated, took a rifle, got on the roof,
and he went there to assassinate Donald J.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Trump. Yeah that's pretty that's what that's premeditated.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's violent, that's wicked, And we definitely concurred
that it's not acceptable just because we have difference in
ideologies that a person shouldn't think that killing someone is
the answer to solve you know.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
The issue.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Thank you for your opportunity here your thoughts on that.
Appreciate that, and welcome to Maligue Books. Okay, okay, Ashley,
come on over here, come on, come on, what you
got to say about all this? I didn't talk to
a few customers talk to me.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
I think it's very suspicious. I'm also like chronically online,
so I'm kind of convinced that it was like they
did it on purpose.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Okay, Trump did it on purpose.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
Yeah, or his team maybe to make him look like
really cool, because now people people are like, I'm in
him just because he.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Like so so you really think that he would jeopardize
his family, jeopardize his kids, jeopardized people did love him
in the background. Okay, but let's say, for instance, that
he done that and they found evidence that he'd done

(21:09):
that when he go to jail.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
Yeah, but he's so rich and he's so like we've
already seen him get convicted of things and he never
went to jail. He just is so rich that he
can get off of things.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
So if he plotted to kill someone, that to attempt
his assassinate and then ultimately several people got killed and
they found him guilty.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
You don't think he'd go to jail. No, you think
he is still get off. I don't.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
It seems like so far he keeps getting off on things.
So I don't know why what would change.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
But even though you feel the way you feel, you
don't justify someone attempting assassinate you ever try to kill anyone? No? Okay,
So what evidence do you have that he would stage
his own attempted assassination?

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Nothing?

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Nothing concrete, just like opinion, just different people saying different things,
and it gets your mind thinking, oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
So it ain't possible that the United States government wouldn't
attempt to kill him.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
Oh for sure. The government's very corrupt.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
So you don't think that the CIABR possibly could try
to attempt to kill They could.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
So all of these are possibilities.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
I think the government is I think the whole government
is corrupt and we should overthrow it.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Okay, I got you, I got you.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Okay, Well, you're the second person that said that you
feel that it might have been staged. And on social media,
I've seen other people say something similar to that, But
I also heard other people say that this was a
real attempted assassination because of difference in ill theologies and
beliefs in that President Biden and all of his uh

(22:50):
in the Democratic Party for the last eight years have
consistently onslaughted in target did Trump with words that he
did he's a hitler, and that he's wicked, and that
he's it is an existential threat to democracy, and that

(23:12):
these things could possibly influence people in a way of violence.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
I mean, I know people like really love Trump and
I'm not sure why, but yeah, you shouldn't try to
assassinate anyone. But I think I think all government is
kind of sketchy, whether you're a Republican or Democrat. I
truly believe that the presidents aren't the ones in control.
It's large corporations and everyone with lots of money, like

(23:42):
all the big businesses that own all the smaller businesses,
Like I feel like they're like little puppeteers, like like
Trump isn't really like it's not all Trump's fault, but
it's also not all Biden's fault. I think there's more
to it. I think I think it's more complex.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
I definitely concur with that that belief that the that
the president doesn't run the country, that the rich and
elite does, and they have unlimited resources and power to
influence leaders to do their well.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I definitely agree with that. A lot of people agree.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
With that, and so with that, thank you for your thoughts.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
But I know that it's it's corporations causing a lot
of these problems because there's some money.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Okay, Well, thank you for your thoughts, Ashley. I'll see
another customer at Eligue Books. I'm gonna go over here
and ask them their thoughts on the attempt assassination.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
How you are young ladies doing good? Good good.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
I got a podcast called Malice's Bookshelf bringing the world
together with books, culture and community. And what I'm doing
is just asking people what you thought about the attempted
assassination of Donald Trump yesterday.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Come on, give me your thought.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
I do not have any.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Okay, have you seen the videos? Okay? You ain't seen
none of the news social media?

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Okay, okay, the news and what about you? You haven't
seen the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
But it's it's crazy. But what do you think about
is balanced? The answer no?

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Never. So you don't agree with someone trying to assassinate.
You might disagree with Donald Trump, but you don't agree
with somebody's trying to kill.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Him, do you.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
No, that's.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
So both of you concur with that.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Okay, the violence is not the way, But don't you
feel that that that words are influential and that when
people incite I guess like saying that Trump is an
existential threat by saying that he's a rapist, by saying that,
you're making what I'm saying that you're making people hate

(25:43):
him and you're making an exciting people to maybe want
to assassinate him, thinking that that's you're doing a noble thing.
What do you think about that? Yeah, he says a
lot of crazy stuff, but it still doesn't like, you know,
it's not okay that he's attempted assassination. That's crazy and

(26:06):
it's scary.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, that's scary. That's scary.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
I mean, we had a agree to disagree whout kind
of killed somebody because your policies might be different, or
I don't like what you say is not a reason.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
For violence.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
For violence actually do lose their life that way.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
So already, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yes, well we appreciate your thoughts. The last bookshelf bringing
the world together with books, culture and welcome to Maligue Books.
All right, well, I think that I got about what
four or five people get their thoughts on Donald Trump.
I did my talk about Donald Trump. So this is

(26:50):
what this next episode, the Great Divide, the attempted assassination
of Donald J.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Trump.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Thanks for listening to Malik's Bookshelf, where topics on the
shelf are books, culture, and community.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Be sure to subscribe and leave me a review. Check
out my Instagram at Malak Books. See you next time
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