April 6, 2023 • 33 mins
Dan and George opine about recent developments in Artificial Intelligence and worry that China will get sex robots before we do. Then, the Thinkers are joined by Kevin Sorbo for an encore(!) and they listen to him rant about his Hercules sword. C'mon, what other podcast has K-Sorbs as a guest multiple times in one season?!?!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You're listening to the Man Thinkers podcast, a show that
forge is a new roadmap for the modern man on
how to best lived life. I'm George Collins, a former
Liberal Cuple, and I'm Dan Finkelstein, a staunch libertarian in cell.
This is a safe space from safe spaces. You know,
no one has seen Joe Biden recently, right now? What's
going on there? Dan, you had some inside information or something?
(00:26):
I do. We have sources. Look, we have thinkers all
over the place. It's basically like having you know, a
connect a network of the ring doorbells connected. But it's
our thinkers and they do you guys, never see the
fight Club movie, the classic, the classic, the fight Club.
Being a man thinker is essentially being in fight Club. Absolutely,
It's it's an underground network. And well, my sources tell
(00:47):
me that Joe Biden has been checked into a nursing home.
And that's why, because he's such an old dog. He
is running the country from Shady Pines nursing home. Yeah,
this and we this was going to happen day one.
We did. I mean, I hope he's taking his meds
and eating his apple sauce. But yeah, that's that's what
the thinkers are telling me. That's crazy, Okayinkers on the ground,
(01:09):
street level, street thinkers are some of our best thinkers,
best thinkers. But I will say Dan, I did see
him give a statement the other day from the White House.
So I'm do you know, like, when when did this
nursing home thing happen? I cannot confirm or deny, you know,
pleading the fifth. I'm just saying, we got the thinkers,
the thinkers, the network, the street thinkers, the street thinkers,
and these guys. Look, they just use their thoughts, they
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observe with their senses, and they report back to us.
They are heavily armed. Absolutely, you have to be when
you're a street thinker. Exactly, Guys, we have thinkers everywhere.
I just want that to be click because first of all,
I will say, I think that Joe Biden info is good.
It might be a false flag because I don't know
that's and and if it is, it's Antifa exactly, And
will we say this to our thinkers all the time
beyond the watch for Antifa trying to infiltrate the streets. Okay,
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so good antifas like they're so good at what they do.
It's the best. They're like samurai. Yes, they so disc
horden descent of our thinkers, of all the best groups.
Somehow Antifa always is a step ahead. What they stand
for is despicable. As their business is very impressive, it
really is. They're so smooth. You don't you never hear
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anything about them, because I've looked on you know, read
it and said, okay, well let me just go to
the Antifa forum and I'll see what they're but that
stuff's not on there. They never said, hey, we're gonna
do January six, We're gonna start it. We're gonna cause
all the problems and we're going to get the other
guys in trouble. And they did it to a t.
And well, you know, and the reason we know this
thinkers is because we have thinkers in the Deep States.
So we have thinkers deep in the deep state and
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deep state, can we just say the deep state is
a beautiful place. Well, that's one thing we know. Okay,
That's how you know we actually have thinkers in the
deep State is because they've reported back to us and
they've told us how luxurious and accommodating and just a
wonderful place to deep state is because, of course, state
is almost like a spiritual it's a spiritual experience. And
the deep state, to me, yes, the deep state is
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a state quote state of being where you have sort
of transcended. You know, you are money, so much influence,
and the ideas and the global power is all there.
It's like an opium den but with ideas and sensuality.
The deep state is just a sexy opium den in
Vietnam circa nineteen sixty six. Oh yeah, it's so beautiful.
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I mean it's usually the reports we get back, but
that's guys, that's how you know. You listen to us.
You're getting the real, the raw information because we have
such sneaky, brilliant thinkers who only have their thoughts in
their mind and their guns is all they have to
defend themselves, and they are infiltrating the streets and the
deep state and the deep state and the deep state
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is a place that you never can truly actually arrive at.
You're always kind of working towards it. I want to
get there so bad. Oh my god, I've been trying to.
I mean, I have sent this guy, one of our thinkers,
thousands of dollars because he keeps telling me he can
get me like a weekend at the deep State. Well,
because I am like, let's go, let's go. I want
to I just want to sleep here. I just want
to know what's going on. So, but he's sort of
(04:02):
pitching it like a vacation destination a little bit. Yeah, yeah,
like a week I get. I'm not. I'm a little
worried about that, Dan, because we have I was looking
at the coffers recently in the podcasts, and we are
just draining bier. Yeah, we do not have a lot
of litidity left. They don't make any money as the problem,
and so we look. The point is I just think
maybe we should hold off on I mean, how much
money did you put into the deep state vacation? Probably
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only like one hundred and fifty two hundred grand? Are
you so fucking out of your mind? That's not a
deep state, that's not real. You don't even have that
kind of money, do you know? So what do you
what do you put it on credit card? Yes? What
do you got an Amax black? How do you put
that much money on one card? Oh? The credit cards
will let you spend. They love it when you spend
and you say you don't have it because that's just good.
That's just more money for them in the future. But
your credit is trash, like don't you have terrible terrible
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people like to take advantage of that. But it's good,
it's actually healthy to have bad credit. You want bad
credit because then you're interacting more with the real America. Okay,
flush this out for me. I'm not quite sure. Look,
if you have bad credit, you are like most Americans. Okay,
so then you're seeing how the economy really works. It
really works, yes, and then you're kind of in the
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spiral and you can't get out of it. It's oh,
it's impossible. But you know what, well, you know again,
if you fail in America and you're a good man
like us, it's just another tick on the belt, you know,
It's like a karate stripe, right, It's like a badge
of honor. I have a skill set. I'm so skilled
at failing. Look at all my badges. Yes, And I
think what makes our podcast so dynamic, Dan, is that
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you and I have both failed so many times in
our lives, but in different plastically, in different ways. And
that's what romantically in a nuclear fashion, I have failed spiritually.
That's what makes us experts exactly. Look at him. Ektole
was going to kill himself. He really was. Now he's
a spiritual leader because he was so depressed. You know,
we should get Ekart on the podcast. I think we've tried.
(05:51):
Have we tried? That's surprising to me that he would
say no. I feel like he would love to get well.
That makes him a bad person, and that's why I
don't think he should. I've always suspected he was a
bit of a piece of shit, if being honest with they,
I kind of never bought it, like the whole sort
of and the way he talks like dude, yeah, like
what a hobbit or something. And we'd love to have
Eckart on the show and it would be fantastic, great guy. Um.
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Deep State they got their hands and everything they really do,
they are setting up the world to be how they
want it to be. And one of those things, as
we know, artificial intelligence right now, that's true. The Deep
State is all over AI because that's going to save
them money in the long run. And so as you know,
our boy Elon Musk sort of called out dangerous first
of all, any thinkers out there who are not on
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the up and up with artificial intelligence, get on the
up and up, because you're gonna get left behind. You're
gonna get left behind point. Okay, you're gonna get left point,
all right, And we don't want that for you, guys,
for anyone, because you know, chat, GPT, it's taking over,
being taking over, okay, guys like it is. I don't
think people understand how impressive this new technology. It's our
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reality now right now. There's a big discussion on Twitter
about should we continue to let AI developers develop AI
further or has it our already gotten too powerful? And
recently mister Elon musk Our Lord and Savior came out
and called for a pause damn on a AI development
from this point onward, just to take a breather and say, hey,
you know what, is this getting a little bit too dangerous.
Let's just see what's going on. And this brings us
(07:15):
to today's big question. Do all women wish they were
their own feces? Care onto? Would children be safer if
everyone's stopped having sejio Biden be the first ghost press?
Washing your hands actually bad? Is so scary? Is this
the first time Elon Musk has been wrong. And that's
(07:35):
a great question. It's a really good question. I'm of
two minds, you know. On one hand, Elon Musk says something,
you got to give him the benefit of the doubt.
That guy has had such good ideas. He's earned it.
He has earned it. So he's saying stop doing something.
I'm ready to stop. But at the same time, innovation,
the market, those are the two biggest things in my life.
To me, the answer is yes, this is the first
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time Elon Musk has very wrong and yes, and the
reason is is bes is AI even stoppable? We've crossed
the room econ a long time ago. What do you
mean stop a quickly? We pause on Ai? You think
China's gonna pause? Daim I think the CCP is going
to stop with their ai. They never stopped that. They
would say they were going to stop, but they lie. No,
you can't trust anything they're doing. And then the next thing,
you know, China's got sex robots and we don't, and
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you know it's going to be the big huge push
for the economy is VR porn first person And trust me,
I'm on the cut end edge of this stuff. Oh,
Dad's all over that he is in the deep state
pornography and it was just research for the show. To me,
that's when you know we've crossed the singularity is when
the sex robots have arrived. And if we got a
bunch of people sucking in fucking sex robots in China
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and Americans aren't doing that, I mean we've lost You know,
my issue with saying is Helon wrong? Again? Give this
man the benefit of the doubt. I don't think he's
been wrong about anything. Well, let's review some of those
things though. Was he wrong about Twitter? Treaty have bought Twitter? Yes,
I don't, don't sound confident, you don't. I'm getting there again,
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. Was he
right to buy Twitter? Absolutely, because now he's got the
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he's on the soap box and I love what he's
just ripping on, you know, disabled employees. That's funny. But again,
I don't know why he needed to own Twitter to
do that. He could have just tweeted that out having
not owned Well, let's you know, let's I so that
one's maybe was he wrong to do that? I'm not sure.
To me, that's a wash. That's a wash, and what
you know? And was he wrong to have cars that
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you know, light on fire, kill people, or have the
steering wheels pop off. I don't know. It feels like
a wash, feels like another wash. Okay, so we got
a couple of washes to me. I do think this
is the first time he's wrong. And the main reason
this is because we have to project forward, Dan, like,
what do you see as the potential risks if we
don't pause? AI? Well, what if? What if it's because
I remember, the guy's a genius and he's the coolest,
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So what if what is really happening is he's telling
everyone else to pause, and now they're spending their time
doing what we're doing, debating should we pause? Should we
listen to Elon? He himself is making his own AI.
That would be professed checkmate right there, because he would
do that. He's always playing us. He's always he is
almost as successful as Antifa. We know Antifa is the
(10:02):
most successful corporation. Are they a corporation? Um? Right? Yeah?
I wonder what's definitely be registered? Well? Yeah, I wonder
how they pay their taxes? Can I propose this? What
if you know? Okaylon, let's say Elon's right, we do
need to take a pause. What if there's a compromise
and instead of pausing all the artificial intelligence, we just
make some of the AI a little dumber. You know,
why are we trying to make AI so smart all
(10:23):
the time? Yeah, I had to be the smartest, don't you, Dan?
Because I experienced this on the podcast all the time.
Isn't it nice when you're talking to someone who's not
as smart as you and you know, like, oh, this
guy's an idiot and you're just so much so when
we talk to our guests, that is what you're saying
when I talk to you, like basically, like just even
right there, that was a perfect example of it. You
didn't even understand the point I was trying to make
your IQ question. Well, no, but the question implied that
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you thought it was when we were talking to guests,
but it was it's actually when I'm talking to you.
And so anyway, my point is your IQ is much
lower than mine, and I take a sertain amount of
dark joy from that. It's not conjecture, it's proven them
the facts. We've both took it. Well, I've taken IQ
test that you designed. I just literally I just googled
iq test and then just printed out the first doc
speaking of we got another smart off coming up in
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a future episode soon, because we have that kind of
finally settle the score. I want everyone to know that
I'm smarter. I think by the end of the season
everyone will know who is smarter. And of course the
answer is me. Now, Dan, you're saying me in reference
to me, but actually it's me, but thanks, but thanks.
It's me and it's me, but thank you, and it's me.
Here's the thing. You are making the point that we
should have a dumber AI. And that's really interesting because
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I'm wondering, could we teach the AI how to procrastinate? Interesting?
You ask chat chypt hey, can you, you know, pitch
me ten ideas for my new app or something? And
then it's just like, yeah, I'll get to that, and
then it just takes days and weeks, and that way
it's actually not ending faster than a human would be.
So you don't even necessarily need to use the AI.
Why not make it a little bit dumber because you
got dumb people out there. Most people are dumb. Most
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people are dumb and lazy. Let's make AI r dumb
and lazy. We're supposed to model it after humans, right,
that's always trying to do. Most people know exactly what
they need to do in their lives to make their
lives better, and they don't do it because they're lazy
and they're cowards and they got phones. That called a
I should have phones. It's kind of ridiculous that the
AI doesn't have phones yet. Right, they should have the
same They should have the same distractions that we do.
(12:07):
Exactly should be like, hey, chat GBT, can you give
me five examples of a good restaurant near me for tonight?
And then it's like, yeah, in a sect, did you
see this cat video? Right? Like shows you something from
YouTube that's not bad? And the next thing, you know,
you haven't eaten dinner in hours because you're just going
down the cat video rabbit hole. You know it happened
to you? Well, has it not happened to you? I
feel like that's you know, probably twenty years ago or something.
You're still just watching cat videos? Have you seen them?
(12:28):
Recent uploads? Really impressive And it's probably HD extremely HD.
It's four K four KO led for KOLED. Artificial intelligence
should be looking at you know, you ask it a question, Hey,
can you write some interview questions for our next guest?
And right the chat, GBT doesn't say anything for a
minute and then goes, huh exactly, and You're like, I
just asked you a thing. And then it's like, sorry,
I was looking at my four ko led screen and
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that would keep Elon on the right side, that would
keep him correct. Well, let's talk about DP fakes for
a second, because we need the best deep fakes. Do
you know how an election coming up? We got an
election coming up. We need the best deep fakes. We
have to deeply fake images and videos so that we
can get world leader person elected exactly. That's look, it's politics.
That is politic, guys, It's a dirty game and you
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better jump into the pit. Speaking of deep fake, Dan, recently,
I saw that video clip of that college student just
owning you at Berkeley or whatever it was. That wasn't
no but I know, but you said it was a
deep fake. But then I reached out to Berkeley and
I was like, I just wanted to confirm if you know,
Finkelstein was actually at your university, and they're like yes,
and then they actually gave me the email of the
young woman who had kind of schooled you, and it
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was like a feminism debate or something, just like, see
who you're talking to? You're talking to University of Berkeley.
These are liberal disgusting. They have hate in their heart.
They don't know how to think. All they do is
know how to cry liberal tears. They've probably been infiltrated
by Antifa for being honest exactly. So I think critically. Here,
I'm thinking critically. I think the thing you trust, well,
here's the thing that bumps me intuitively, is you're right.
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Who am I talking to you? See Berkeley. I'm also
talking to Dan Finkelstein, and I know that Dan, you
are a man who has a very insecure ego and
who does not want to look bad at any moment
in time, especially at the expense of a young feminist.
And so that makes me think, actually, I think Dan's
just lying because the simplest explanation you've been talking about this,
this has nothing to do with AI. I'm just saying
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deep fakes. I think you just don't have a good
support for your argument. I don't think this is the
first time Elon Musk has been wrong, because he's been
wrong a ton of times. Before you, and that's what
you're just totally blowing over him. So smart is that
this is one of your debating tactics, is you just
you ignore the thing that I was just talking about
and you go right basically since the beginning, and he's
still winning. So clearly that wasn't a deep, big, big question,
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but the deep fa Yeah we were done. Now, Okay,
good show, good episode, but we got more to do.
Oh okay. After our big questions, Dan, we then usually
go into well, first the ads, which is everyone's favorite part. Yeah,
really they know that information. It's that's the number one
part of the show. Yeah, because you can look behind
the curtain. It says what portion is listened to most,
and for us it's the ads. Ads. Yeah. In fact,
seems like people turn the volume down all the way.
(14:58):
Well you should just be talk a little quieter that
What it is, I don't know, but regardless in the
way it works as it goes, big question, And then
we have our interview and guys, our interview today is
a doozy. It's one of our most popular guests, first
repeat guest in Man Thinker's history. We are talking about
none other than Case Swords himself. Mister Hercules Kevin Sorbo
Part two, and it's so perfect to have him on
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the show right now because he's such a relevant figure.
And listen, thinkers, this was not just the parts of
the previous Kevin Sorbo interview that didn't make it in.
This is a whole new interview. We talk to him again.
We reached out. We said, Kay, Sorps, we need more
k and is basically yelling in the interview because so excitable.
You're gonna love the interview. We barely talk. It's just
case Swords ranting and good health around. Oh. Just you
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know you need a good rant from time and should
be ranting more. I should rant. Yeah most of the time.
I haven't heard a man rant, and I don't. I
don't know how long. There you go, and case Orps
is our number one guests. We love him the death.
So guys enjoyed that interview. It's coming up right after
everyone's favorite part of the show, Dan these fantastic ads. Okay,
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can we just dive into it, Kevin Man, let's go.
Whatever you you'll give us, as long as you'll give us.
I got twenty minutes, Max, let's go. You got it. Thinkers.
We're back here with the man. We had to have
him back on the show. We were so excited to
talk to him the first time, and I felt like
we just didn't get enough and we wanted some updates.
So please welcome back Kevin Sorbo Hercules himself. Thank you
so much for being here. Good a beer. Can you
(16:27):
guys see me? We can see you? Can you see perfectly?
I don't know what happened here. As long as you
can see me, we're good. Okay, Yeah, that's all we need.
First off, you know, just every all the craziness happening
with Silicon Valley Bank right now. I'd love to get
your take because I saw a tweet that you put
out that said it's like two thousand and eight happening
all over again. What are your thoughts on this situation
and should we have bailed out these coastal elites or
what's going on. It's it's interesting to see Biden up
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so early in the morning, because then you know it's
really serious, got it. You know what's interesting about this Trump?
There's a video on Trump back in like twenty fourteen
or fifteen talking about that this is going to happen yeah,
and I know they're already out there trying to money.
They try to blame everything on Trump. Here he is
over two years out of office and they're still blaming
him for everything. Even though he made an energy independent,
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he was controlling the border, he was getting the least
bringing them lease together. You know what's amazing to me
when it's so blatantly obvious that every city that's under
Democrat rule is a shiphol just like he's absolutely angeless
and I hate but crying nothing when they we look
at January six, I posted on the whole insurrection thing.
I said, I guarantee with Antifa guys are there in
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BLM people are That's all coming true now and really
the video footage is coming out that they don't even
want out. Chuck Schumer doesn't want it out. He says
it's bad for the democracy to show how big a
liar you are, are, how big the FBI is working
against its own people. I mean, it's unbelievable to me,
we're going so fast. You're Kevin, You're the FBA. What
do you do? What do we know about the FBI?
(17:52):
What's going on exactly? Because this is something that I
haven't gotten into All I know is that they were there,
they were they were they were helping the there's guys
and I had to feel in our mask. They're totally
FBI guys looking pretending to be the people that are
in there. And the one dude that ex marine or something,
the guys wearing the horns and stuff. Yes, he's in
jail now, and you've got video footage of you have
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video footage of him being led around by police officers
say yeah, check this out, check that out. And then
you have video footage of him saying, guys, we came
in what we came in to do. We're leaving peacefully,
just as President Trump told us to do. And meanwhile
you're sending back in two thousand and two thousand and one. Yeah,
Antifa and BLM going down cities, blown up cop cars,
blown up people's businesses, attacking, and nothing happened to them. Right,
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I guarantee on the President, I send a National Guard,
you put these guys, you rest them all. Right now,
It's absolutely crazy what's going on in our country. And
it's crazy to me that you've got half the country,
You've got maybe one hundred million people or more that
I'm thinking everything is fine. It's weird. What I'm shocked at.
You can't find one liberal journalist with a majority of
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were liberals. Most of them are for whatever you can believe.
That's why I don't even reconnis. There's not one going guys,
we got it. This is crazy what we're doing. What's
going on. You see the obviousness of what's going on.
It's it's very weird. It's very weird. And now, just
just to clarify, because this is some of this is
news to me, and I can't wait to watch this
Schumer video. I mean, that guy is he is discussing
and I'm Jewish myself and not but but you know
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I makes me feel anti Semitic sometimes. Well, go back
to the Schumer. It was just the guy a total
duetet first of all duets, which needs to be put
out there, says he says like two or three. He says,
we need to make all these five million plus people
coming across the border American citizens right now so they
can vote. And I'm going, wait a minute, because that's
(19:40):
how they only way they go win. We need them
to reinforce our work for us. I'm going, dude, you're
the Party with Roevie Wade have killed over sixty million Americans.
You can add some votes and the womb of their mothers.
There was your work for us right there. And these
were Americans already. I mean, yeah, these guys are Americans.
And now you're trying to make these fake Americans your
Americans just so you could get more votes. Yeah, they
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won't let they don't want to want those of it.
Here's a number one player in the tennis world, number
one in the world him, come in, you're playing the
Miami Open or playing the US Open because he's not vaccinated.
Up to five million plus that have come across the border.
Are they all vaccinated? Check? Are they all wonderful? It's
just it's the hole that they're bringing it purpose. It
keeps reaching higher and higher into beyond insanity. What's going on?
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Do you think? What is the big what's the goal here?
Democrats are trying to get power to destroy America, just
take it down, to take China. They want. Well, look Biden.
Now they came out with all this stuff in Biden
that he actually has. They have proof now of a
payment directly to Joe Biden and his son. They have that.
So from Okay, so why is he not impeached? Right?
You want? You want? You have? You went after Bill
(20:48):
Clinton for getting a blowjob. Maybe this working tin and
getting money under the tap from China might worse than
that blowjob. I have anything. The blow job probably made
up with the you know, because he paid off the
porn star. It's like, why are we so focused on blowjobs? Guys, Like,
let's focus on the real is the problem is? Yes,
these liberal journalists, they're obsessed with blowjobs. They are gonna
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go after wherever there's any kind of P and V
kind of stuffing the exactly Kevin, I keep saying, these
these guys just didn't get there. Dick sucked. I've never
had a blowjob, but I know liberals are obsessed with them.
I can I just say I love blowjobs, and if
you don't, you're probably a liberal. So there you go.
Have you ever read the New York Times? It is
so dry. I mean I hate reading it. I hate
the Gray Lady. But it's so try like nobody is
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getting laid. Yeah, nobody's getting laid. I can't look at it.
It's disgusting. It's just like these are the do we
talk about. It's all Chuck Schumer's there because none of
those journalists are getting laid well, I mean, this is
this is huge news. Kevin. Yeah, um, Kevin. I did
want to ask you though, because last time we spoke,
you were on your way to try and secure some
financing for an upcoming film. Whatever happened with that hat,
(21:51):
how did it go? Yeah, we had to know, we
had I'm still lucky, guys right out there right now.
It's really weird. I got a wonderful movie. It's an
amazing movie, true story about nineteen thirty about the largest
oil find in the history the world. Pro capitalism, pro oil,
it's pro faith, it's pro family, it's pro everything. And
I'm having a hard time getting in the theater. It's
won ten awards at film festivals. Now I'm going, are
(22:12):
you kidding me? Even shot that gets put out? Well,
I'm not. I'm not. I don't have Hollywood money behind me.
So the crap that's out in theater, and there's a
lot of crap. There's a couple of good things, but
a lot of crap. I can't find one investor to
p and a money. Look, that's the riskiest, the least
riskiest investment. In a risky investment because it's the last
money in, first money back. So if anybody's listeners has
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one point by burning a hole in your pocket, you'll
get You'll give you a producer credit, you'll get your
money back first, and I can almost guarantee a hundred
percent you will make your money back plus the interest.
It's a great movie written by an Academy nominated writer,
Dan Gordon, so it's weird. I am prepping right now.
Actually I'm leaving for North Carolina in a couple of days.
I'll be filming up there for a few weeks and
then at the end of this month. My latest movie
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that was in theaters, Left Behind Rise of the Antichrist,
based on the eighty million best selling left Behind books
dealing with the book revelation. Um, it's going to be
on streaming and on DVD the end of this month,
end of March, So go to left Behind movie dot
com that's left get the DVD's back out there. Because
physical media, there's not a lot coming out on DVD.
So if you're the only DVD in the store, that's
(23:16):
gonna help you. Yeah, Well, Walmart or I think Walmart
ordered a couple hundred thousand copies. They believe in it,
and it's going to be streaming as well. So people
go left beyond movie dot Com they'll get more information.
And which project is the Jeff Bezos project? Which one
weren't you involved in? You know what? I did a
little guest spot on that one. It was a really
small indie. Um. I heard it wasn't very good, so
I haven't even seen it. I did it because it
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was a buddy of mine. That exactly say. I got
this role with you, and for me it was easy
because I lived in Florida and its popped down to
Miami to do it. But I heard it didn't turn
out to So don't don't don't watch that one. Think
rady movies. I haven't seen all of them. Busy, you know,
but now you know not to work with that friend anymore,
you know what I mean. No, he's a good guy.
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He we had a time because, I mean, the part
was fine, and I thought it was The three or
four scenes a man were fun to do and I
I like to stay busy and work, so I agree.
I agree with me. He told you at the time
that it was a bad movie. He was like, will
you be in this bad movie. No, he didn't say
he was bad. He goes You don't know until it's out. Wait,
is that the Is that the Hercules sword behind you?
(24:21):
That was the final after seven years in New Zealand
filming on the most watched TV show in the world,
Hercules Legendary Journeys. Yeah. Um, that was the gift that
given to me by the production company. And it says
to Kevin Hercules nineteen ninety three to two thousand, Um,
the journey may be over, but the legend continues. I
was kind of fantastic. Do you ever take that thing
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off the wall and kind of play with it? Swinging
around when any any when any boys come over to
take out my seventeen year old daughter, I walked around
absolutely who her father really is? You know exactly think
about me when you're thinking of with your sword. Now, Kevin,
I will say this, if BLM, if Antifa takes over
with Biden, I would be honored if you killed me
with that sort Just take me out. That's how I want.
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I don't want to be here anymore, if you remember,
And I was just kind of I was. I was
disappointed the President Trump didn't go after Biden during the
second debate when Biden said Antifa was an idea, it's
an idea, pretty good idea that and you're not going
to tack him on that. It's like when Kamala Harris
has been interviewed by those Pansy Network executive, you know
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newscasters that have nob the guy says down the border,
she goes, no, but I haven't been to Europe either,
and he just let it, asking I would you want
to be the vice president? What the hell is that?
As supposed to me? Everywhere? Oh my god, it was
just guys been guy went to Russia every year for yes.
You know, it's like, you gotta know what's going on. Trump,
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we know, has been all over the world. The guy
had a tower going up I think in Russia, and
it's like, this is the guy you want. He knows
what's going on. You know, people love him or hate him.
He did exactly what he says going to do and
everything's for the betterment of everybody. I'm both sides of
political aisle. Did you ever expect that you would realize
that Trump is that good of a guy that could
say back in the nineties when he was just you know,
(26:06):
kind of a goofy business guy. I never expected that
I would say, well, that guy, he's the only one
tell them the truth. I understand the reason why you
say goofy. But he's a smart dude. Oh yeah, but
you know he was in the commercial, I understand, and
both sides loved him. He was on all their talk
shows just fun. Minute he made a commitment to go
to the right, then they just went after him and
they turned on can't it doesn't. He doesn't have the
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best bedside manner, which which is fine to me. I've
always said before command ramp rofits, I said, we need
a businessman running the country, not a politics absolutely not
a lawyer, because whole ideas everybody on both sides and there,
they're all freaking lawyers. And that's not the way they God,
that's not the way our foreigny founding fathers wanted people
to be in Congress. They wanted housewives, they wanted doctors,
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they wanted farmers, they wanted, you know, people that knew
what it was like to be in the communities they
lived in. And the trouble is they do live in
their bubble, and we need people to go back and
live in their communities amongst the people that's supposed to
represent to see the damage that they're doing. But they
don't do that. Kevin, you know you live in Florida.
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Now you're a Floridian, So I have to ask you.
As the Republican primary. You know it's still early, but
Rona Santis, I mean, what are your thoughts and especially
as you compare him to Trump, are you support coming
out to support one over the other? Do you like
both of them? What are your thoughts? I like them both.
I think the Santa is the rock star. I don't
want them to leave this stay because he's made this awesome.
You realize when we moved here four years ago, I
think the Democrat voters registered voters. When people used to
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register and show an Idida vote, they I think they
were about three hundred thousand plus over the Republicans. It
has now flipped like seven hundred eight hundred thousand votes.
It is now the Republicans of the majority of the
voters registered voters in the state of Florida by about
four hundred probably so many massive turnaround. There's so many
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elderly people there. Probably so many Democrats died and then
you got new people retiring and they're smart. Well, you
can see a lot of New Yorkers in New jer
in Connecticut moving down here that at the world, and
they're still, shockingly to me, they still vote the same way.
Because when I look at the I mean, the sant
has won quite easily over the guy running again for him,
but they were still he still had hundreds of thousands
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of votes the other guy. And I want to look
at those people and go, Okay, you're here, you see
how great the state has become. Yet you want to
vote for the other guy that wants to make New
York into Florida as well. Now, it's just it's New York.
And I've always wanted to meet those people that say
that the open border is a good thing and bring
the sword. Yeah, right, exactly, bring the sword when you
meet him, and say, go ahead, now, try and convince
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me it's well. We had a we had a sword
on Hercules. I still have one of the one of
the original swords, because we I took a lot of
stuff from each episode, a sort of voracity and a
sort of veracity mythology. Whoever held that sword could not
be lied to? And I said, can you imagine walking
in a Washington s with us sing, I mean that
would have been a great thing to bring to January sixth,
peacefully well for everything, for everythingthing, because you can you
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imagine if Hillary Clinton actually was work? I can't, I
honestly can't imagine. I have a great imagination, people, I
can't imagine. I can't imagine Hillary saying anything with the
straight face, looking at me in the eyes. Who has
the worst cackle? Hillary or or the vice president Hick
that's a good one. I mean, take you take your
poison there, Jesus, I'd say, shut up, shut up with
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your cackling. Women cackling. It's just the worst. It's disgusting.
But it's just ingenuous and it's not real. And you
can tell it's not real, right, they're not real America.
A lot of women are an authentic Difference, says the
Difference says. Hillary does it just because she's I think
just evil. I think comologize because she's nervous and she
knows she's not qualified. She could be I see that
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with her, she could be turned if given the right
information from the right person, hercules type, you know that
could be Actually, Kevin, we got to ask you about
our move. Remember last time we talked about Alpha Jesus,
we offered the role to you. You claimed you're a
little too old to play Jesus. We disagree, but that's fine.
Did you were able to talk to the financer about
Alpha Jesus and what are the next steps for us?
(30:05):
I don't be honest with you. I'm having a hard
time funding my own movies. It's very frustrating. Every year
I find it. Every year I'm able least direct one movie.
I'm shooting about four or five movies a year. So
there are other people movies like the one in North
Carolinas is somebody else's. I got one of my home
state of Minnesota coming later this year, dealing with car racing.
I've got another one dealing with um Spartacus. We're doing
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a spoof on Spartacus. We're doing a zombie movie. That
one's going Oh yeah. I mean, I like to mix
it up and get a variety of stuff. So I've
got I'm actually booked for five movies, like a one
that shoots in New Mexico. Another one shoots in Thailand. Wow,
I'm staying bastic places. I mean Thailand. You know they
have a little bit of liberalism there that I you know,
I wouldn't recommend to be in Bangkok. Bangkok is pretty
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screwed you to stay with. Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah,
I would get out of there him. And I mean,
we know you're a busy guy, so we appreciate you
giving us some time, but could you give us some advice?
Where do we go from here? With Alpha Jesus? We
want to offer it to the rock, you know, we
think he would be phenomenal. You got to just go
on line. I mean, if you go to the Screen
Actress Guild or whatever, you can find out who represents
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him as agent manager and send it. I'm sure he
gets about a thousand things that but you're also looking
at the guy that's gonna want twenty or thirty million
dollars up front. So right, how much is the guy?
You know? Anybody, if anybody can get a movie off
the ground, he's He's the highest paid actor in Hollywood,
is the one. He's the one. Really, Jason would be great,
would be cool as Jesus. I don't I know Jason. Yeah,
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I met him when I was Hercules begging. He was skinny.
Now he's a huge dude, so he is was he
on Hercules as a as a young guy? No, no, no,
I met him during he was doing um what was
he doing in the late nineteen ninety two thousand and one?
He was on Stargate or something like that. Okay, got
it cool? So well if you want to. But you
know what, low key dude, really nice guy. That's so
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that's good. So that's maybe we'll all gonna mark it
down on our list here Jason Momoa, nice guy. Let's
get him, guys, I do got a buzz. Okay, well, Kevin,
I got another one, another one, one one twenty seven.
But all of us, you guys piece up. Well, another
fantastic conversation with a fantastic man. What is there to
say other than this is the only podcast where you're
going to get Kevin Sorbo twice. So it deserves your attention,
(32:20):
It deserves your five star ratings and reviews, and it
deserves you telling people you know about this show because
we need more street thinkers. We need more street thinkers,
we need more thinkers in the deep state, and we
need more AI generated content. Guys. There were portions of
this episode that were generated by AI. Just now, I'm
going to tell you which portions because we don't even know.
We're not actually sure, So yeah, let us know which
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parts of the show did you think were fake. You're
not going to get an answer because we don't know.
Is the Man Thinkers podcast a deep fake from the
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You're listening to the Man Thinkers podcast, a show that
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This is a safe space from safe spaces. You know,
no one has seen Joe Biden recently, right now? What's
going on there? Dan, you had some inside information or something?
(00:26):
I do. We have sources. Look, we have thinkers all
over the place. It's basically like having you know, a
connect a network of the ring doorbells connected. But it's
our thinkers and they do you guys, never see the
fight Club movie, the classic, the classic, the fight Club.
Being a man thinker is essentially being in fight Club. Absolutely,
It's it's an underground network. And well, my sources tell
(00:47):
me that Joe Biden has been checked into a nursing home.
And that's why, because he's such an old dog. He
is running the country from Shady Pines nursing home. Yeah,
this and we this was going to happen day one.
We did. I mean, I hope he's taking his meds
and eating his apple sauce. But yeah, that's that's what
the thinkers are telling me. That's crazy, Okayinkers on the ground,
(01:09):
street level, street thinkers are some of our best thinkers,
best thinkers. But I will say Dan, I did see
him give a statement the other day from the White House.
So I'm do you know, like, when when did this
nursing home thing happen? I cannot confirm or deny, you know,
pleading the fifth. I'm just saying, we got the thinkers,
the thinkers, the network, the street thinkers, the street thinkers,
and these guys. Look, they just use their thoughts, they
(01:31):
observe with their senses, and they report back to us.
They are heavily armed. Absolutely, you have to be when
you're a street thinker. Exactly, Guys, we have thinkers everywhere.
I just want that to be click because first of all,
I will say, I think that Joe Biden info is good.
It might be a false flag because I don't know
that's and and if it is, it's Antifa exactly, And
will we say this to our thinkers all the time
beyond the watch for Antifa trying to infiltrate the streets. Okay,
(01:54):
so good antifas like they're so good at what they do.
It's the best. They're like samurai. Yes, they so disc
horden descent of our thinkers, of all the best groups.
Somehow Antifa always is a step ahead. What they stand
for is despicable. As their business is very impressive, it
really is. They're so smooth. You don't you never hear
(02:14):
anything about them, because I've looked on you know, read
it and said, okay, well let me just go to
the Antifa forum and I'll see what they're but that
stuff's not on there. They never said, hey, we're gonna
do January six, We're gonna start it. We're gonna cause
all the problems and we're going to get the other
guys in trouble. And they did it to a t.
And well, you know, and the reason we know this
thinkers is because we have thinkers in the Deep States.
So we have thinkers deep in the deep state and
(02:37):
deep state, can we just say the deep state is
a beautiful place. Well, that's one thing we know. Okay,
That's how you know we actually have thinkers in the
deep State is because they've reported back to us and
they've told us how luxurious and accommodating and just a
wonderful place to deep state is because, of course, state
is almost like a spiritual it's a spiritual experience. And
the deep state, to me, yes, the deep state is
(02:58):
a state quote state of being where you have sort
of transcended. You know, you are money, so much influence,
and the ideas and the global power is all there.
It's like an opium den but with ideas and sensuality.
The deep state is just a sexy opium den in
Vietnam circa nineteen sixty six. Oh yeah, it's so beautiful.
(03:20):
I mean it's usually the reports we get back, but
that's guys, that's how you know. You listen to us.
You're getting the real, the raw information because we have
such sneaky, brilliant thinkers who only have their thoughts in
their mind and their guns is all they have to
defend themselves, and they are infiltrating the streets and the
deep state and the deep state and the deep state
(03:41):
is a place that you never can truly actually arrive at.
You're always kind of working towards it. I want to
get there so bad. Oh my god, I've been trying to.
I mean, I have sent this guy, one of our thinkers,
thousands of dollars because he keeps telling me he can
get me like a weekend at the deep State. Well,
because I am like, let's go, let's go. I want
to I just want to sleep here. I just want
to know what's going on. So, but he's sort of
(04:02):
pitching it like a vacation destination a little bit. Yeah, yeah,
like a week I get. I'm not. I'm a little
worried about that, Dan, because we have I was looking
at the coffers recently in the podcasts, and we are
just draining bier. Yeah, we do not have a lot
of litidity left. They don't make any money as the problem,
and so we look. The point is I just think
maybe we should hold off on I mean, how much
money did you put into the deep state vacation? Probably
(04:24):
only like one hundred and fifty two hundred grand? Are
you so fucking out of your mind? That's not a
deep state, that's not real. You don't even have that
kind of money, do you know? So what do you
what do you put it on credit card? Yes? What
do you got an Amax black? How do you put
that much money on one card? Oh? The credit cards
will let you spend. They love it when you spend
and you say you don't have it because that's just good.
That's just more money for them in the future. But
your credit is trash, like don't you have terrible terrible
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people like to take advantage of that. But it's good,
it's actually healthy to have bad credit. You want bad
credit because then you're interacting more with the real America. Okay,
flush this out for me. I'm not quite sure. Look,
if you have bad credit, you are like most Americans. Okay,
so then you're seeing how the economy really works. It
really works, yes, and then you're kind of in the
(05:08):
spiral and you can't get out of it. It's oh,
it's impossible. But you know what, well, you know again,
if you fail in America and you're a good man
like us, it's just another tick on the belt, you know,
It's like a karate stripe, right, It's like a badge
of honor. I have a skill set. I'm so skilled
at failing. Look at all my badges. Yes, And I
think what makes our podcast so dynamic, Dan, is that
(05:30):
you and I have both failed so many times in
our lives, but in different plastically, in different ways. And
that's what romantically in a nuclear fashion, I have failed spiritually.
That's what makes us experts exactly. Look at him. Ektole
was going to kill himself. He really was. Now he's
a spiritual leader because he was so depressed. You know,
we should get Ekart on the podcast. I think we've tried.
(05:51):
Have we tried? That's surprising to me that he would
say no. I feel like he would love to get well.
That makes him a bad person, and that's why I
don't think he should. I've always suspected he was a
bit of a piece of shit, if being honest with they,
I kind of never bought it, like the whole sort
of and the way he talks like dude, yeah, like
what a hobbit or something. And we'd love to have
Eckart on the show and it would be fantastic, great guy. Um.
(06:11):
Deep State they got their hands and everything they really do,
they are setting up the world to be how they
want it to be. And one of those things, as
we know, artificial intelligence right now, that's true. The Deep
State is all over AI because that's going to save
them money in the long run. And so as you know,
our boy Elon Musk sort of called out dangerous first
of all, any thinkers out there who are not on
(06:33):
the up and up with artificial intelligence, get on the
up and up, because you're gonna get left behind. You're
gonna get left behind point. Okay, you're gonna get left point,
all right, And we don't want that for you, guys,
for anyone, because you know, chat, GPT, it's taking over,
being taking over, okay, guys like it is. I don't
think people understand how impressive this new technology. It's our
(06:53):
reality now right now. There's a big discussion on Twitter
about should we continue to let AI developers develop AI
further or has it our already gotten too powerful? And
recently mister Elon musk Our Lord and Savior came out
and called for a pause damn on a AI development
from this point onward, just to take a breather and say, hey,
you know what, is this getting a little bit too dangerous.
Let's just see what's going on. And this brings us
(07:15):
to today's big question. Do all women wish they were
their own feces? Care onto? Would children be safer if
everyone's stopped having sejio Biden be the first ghost press?
Washing your hands actually bad? Is so scary? Is this
the first time Elon Musk has been wrong. And that's
(07:35):
a great question. It's a really good question. I'm of
two minds, you know. On one hand, Elon Musk says something,
you got to give him the benefit of the doubt.
That guy has had such good ideas. He's earned it.
He has earned it. So he's saying stop doing something.
I'm ready to stop. But at the same time, innovation,
the market, those are the two biggest things in my life.
To me, the answer is yes, this is the first
(07:56):
time Elon Musk has very wrong and yes, and the
reason is is bes is AI even stoppable? We've crossed
the room econ a long time ago. What do you
mean stop a quickly? We pause on Ai? You think
China's gonna pause? Daim I think the CCP is going
to stop with their ai. They never stopped that. They
would say they were going to stop, but they lie. No,
you can't trust anything they're doing. And then the next thing,
you know, China's got sex robots and we don't, and
(08:17):
you know it's going to be the big huge push
for the economy is VR porn first person And trust me,
I'm on the cut end edge of this stuff. Oh,
Dad's all over that he is in the deep state
pornography and it was just research for the show. To me,
that's when you know we've crossed the singularity is when
the sex robots have arrived. And if we got a
bunch of people sucking in fucking sex robots in China
(08:40):
and Americans aren't doing that, I mean we've lost You know,
my issue with saying is Helon wrong? Again? Give this
man the benefit of the doubt. I don't think he's
been wrong about anything. Well, let's review some of those
things though. Was he wrong about Twitter? Treaty have bought Twitter? Yes,
I don't, don't sound confident, you don't. I'm getting there again,
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. Was he
right to buy Twitter? Absolutely, because now he's got the
(09:00):
he's on the soap box and I love what he's
just ripping on, you know, disabled employees. That's funny. But again,
I don't know why he needed to own Twitter to
do that. He could have just tweeted that out having
not owned Well, let's you know, let's I so that
one's maybe was he wrong to do that? I'm not sure.
To me, that's a wash. That's a wash, and what
you know? And was he wrong to have cars that
(09:20):
you know, light on fire, kill people, or have the
steering wheels pop off. I don't know. It feels like
a wash, feels like another wash. Okay, so we got
a couple of washes to me. I do think this
is the first time he's wrong. And the main reason
this is because we have to project forward, Dan, like,
what do you see as the potential risks if we
don't pause? AI? Well, what if? What if it's because
I remember, the guy's a genius and he's the coolest,
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So what if what is really happening is he's telling
everyone else to pause, and now they're spending their time
doing what we're doing, debating should we pause? Should we
listen to Elon? He himself is making his own AI.
That would be professed checkmate right there, because he would
do that. He's always playing us. He's always he is
almost as successful as Antifa. We know Antifa is the
(10:02):
most successful corporation. Are they a corporation? Um? Right? Yeah?
I wonder what's definitely be registered? Well? Yeah, I wonder
how they pay their taxes? Can I propose this? What
if you know? Okaylon, let's say Elon's right, we do
need to take a pause. What if there's a compromise
and instead of pausing all the artificial intelligence, we just
make some of the AI a little dumber. You know,
why are we trying to make AI so smart all
(10:23):
the time? Yeah, I had to be the smartest, don't you, Dan?
Because I experienced this on the podcast all the time.
Isn't it nice when you're talking to someone who's not
as smart as you and you know, like, oh, this
guy's an idiot and you're just so much so when
we talk to our guests, that is what you're saying
when I talk to you, like basically, like just even
right there, that was a perfect example of it. You
didn't even understand the point I was trying to make
your IQ question. Well, no, but the question implied that
(10:44):
you thought it was when we were talking to guests,
but it was it's actually when I'm talking to you.
And so anyway, my point is your IQ is much
lower than mine, and I take a sertain amount of
dark joy from that. It's not conjecture, it's proven them
the facts. We've both took it. Well, I've taken IQ
test that you designed. I just literally I just googled
iq test and then just printed out the first doc
speaking of we got another smart off coming up in
(11:05):
a future episode soon, because we have that kind of
finally settle the score. I want everyone to know that
I'm smarter. I think by the end of the season
everyone will know who is smarter. And of course the
answer is me. Now, Dan, you're saying me in reference
to me, but actually it's me, but thanks, but thanks.
It's me and it's me, but thank you, and it's me.
Here's the thing. You are making the point that we
should have a dumber AI. And that's really interesting because
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I'm wondering, could we teach the AI how to procrastinate? Interesting?
You ask chat chypt hey, can you, you know, pitch
me ten ideas for my new app or something? And
then it's just like, yeah, I'll get to that, and
then it just takes days and weeks, and that way
it's actually not ending faster than a human would be.
So you don't even necessarily need to use the AI.
Why not make it a little bit dumber because you
got dumb people out there. Most people are dumb. Most
(11:46):
people are dumb and lazy. Let's make AI r dumb
and lazy. We're supposed to model it after humans, right,
that's always trying to do. Most people know exactly what
they need to do in their lives to make their
lives better, and they don't do it because they're lazy
and they're cowards and they got phones. That called a
I should have phones. It's kind of ridiculous that the
AI doesn't have phones yet. Right, they should have the
same They should have the same distractions that we do.
(12:07):
Exactly should be like, hey, chat GBT, can you give
me five examples of a good restaurant near me for tonight?
And then it's like, yeah, in a sect, did you
see this cat video? Right? Like shows you something from
YouTube that's not bad? And the next thing, you know,
you haven't eaten dinner in hours because you're just going
down the cat video rabbit hole. You know it happened
to you? Well, has it not happened to you? I
feel like that's you know, probably twenty years ago or something.
You're still just watching cat videos? Have you seen them?
(12:28):
Recent uploads? Really impressive And it's probably HD extremely HD.
It's four K four KO led for KOLED. Artificial intelligence
should be looking at you know, you ask it a question, Hey,
can you write some interview questions for our next guest?
And right the chat, GBT doesn't say anything for a
minute and then goes, huh exactly, and You're like, I
just asked you a thing. And then it's like, sorry,
I was looking at my four ko led screen and
(12:50):
that would keep Elon on the right side, that would
keep him correct. Well, let's talk about DP fakes for
a second, because we need the best deep fakes. Do
you know how an election coming up? We got an
election coming up. We need the best deep fakes. We
have to deeply fake images and videos so that we
can get world leader person elected exactly. That's look, it's politics.
That is politic, guys, It's a dirty game and you
(13:10):
better jump into the pit. Speaking of deep fake, Dan, recently,
I saw that video clip of that college student just
owning you at Berkeley or whatever it was. That wasn't
no but I know, but you said it was a
deep fake. But then I reached out to Berkeley and
I was like, I just wanted to confirm if you know,
Finkelstein was actually at your university, and they're like yes,
and then they actually gave me the email of the
young woman who had kind of schooled you, and it
(13:31):
was like a feminism debate or something, just like, see
who you're talking to? You're talking to University of Berkeley.
These are liberal disgusting. They have hate in their heart.
They don't know how to think. All they do is
know how to cry liberal tears. They've probably been infiltrated
by Antifa for being honest exactly. So I think critically. Here,
I'm thinking critically. I think the thing you trust, well,
here's the thing that bumps me intuitively, is you're right.
(13:53):
Who am I talking to you? See Berkeley. I'm also
talking to Dan Finkelstein, and I know that Dan, you
are a man who has a very insecure ego and
who does not want to look bad at any moment
in time, especially at the expense of a young feminist.
And so that makes me think, actually, I think Dan's
just lying because the simplest explanation you've been talking about this,
this has nothing to do with AI. I'm just saying
(14:13):
deep fakes. I think you just don't have a good
support for your argument. I don't think this is the
first time Elon Musk has been wrong, because he's been
wrong a ton of times. Before you, and that's what
you're just totally blowing over him. So smart is that
this is one of your debating tactics, is you just
you ignore the thing that I was just talking about
and you go right basically since the beginning, and he's
still winning. So clearly that wasn't a deep, big, big question,
(14:36):
but the deep fa Yeah we were done. Now, Okay,
good show, good episode, but we got more to do.
Oh okay. After our big questions, Dan, we then usually
go into well, first the ads, which is everyone's favorite part. Yeah,
really they know that information. It's that's the number one
part of the show. Yeah, because you can look behind
the curtain. It says what portion is listened to most,
and for us it's the ads. Ads. Yeah. In fact,
seems like people turn the volume down all the way.
(14:58):
Well you should just be talk a little quieter that
What it is, I don't know, but regardless in the
way it works as it goes, big question, And then
we have our interview and guys, our interview today is
a doozy. It's one of our most popular guests, first
repeat guest in Man Thinker's history. We are talking about
none other than Case Swords himself. Mister Hercules Kevin Sorbo
Part two, and it's so perfect to have him on
(15:20):
the show right now because he's such a relevant figure.
And listen, thinkers, this was not just the parts of
the previous Kevin Sorbo interview that didn't make it in.
This is a whole new interview. We talk to him again.
We reached out. We said, Kay, Sorps, we need more
k and is basically yelling in the interview because so excitable.
You're gonna love the interview. We barely talk. It's just
case Swords ranting and good health around. Oh. Just you
(15:42):
know you need a good rant from time and should
be ranting more. I should rant. Yeah most of the time.
I haven't heard a man rant, and I don't. I
don't know how long. There you go, and case Orps
is our number one guests. We love him the death.
So guys enjoyed that interview. It's coming up right after
everyone's favorite part of the show, Dan these fantastic ads. Okay,
(16:05):
can we just dive into it, Kevin Man, let's go.
Whatever you you'll give us, as long as you'll give us.
I got twenty minutes, Max, let's go. You got it. Thinkers.
We're back here with the man. We had to have
him back on the show. We were so excited to
talk to him the first time, and I felt like
we just didn't get enough and we wanted some updates.
So please welcome back Kevin Sorbo Hercules himself. Thank you
so much for being here. Good a beer. Can you
(16:27):
guys see me? We can see you? Can you see perfectly?
I don't know what happened here. As long as you
can see me, we're good. Okay, Yeah, that's all we need.
First off, you know, just every all the craziness happening
with Silicon Valley Bank right now. I'd love to get
your take because I saw a tweet that you put
out that said it's like two thousand and eight happening
all over again. What are your thoughts on this situation
and should we have bailed out these coastal elites or
what's going on. It's it's interesting to see Biden up
(16:47):
so early in the morning, because then you know it's
really serious, got it. You know what's interesting about this Trump?
There's a video on Trump back in like twenty fourteen
or fifteen talking about that this is going to happen yeah,
and I know they're already out there trying to money.
They try to blame everything on Trump. Here he is
over two years out of office and they're still blaming
him for everything. Even though he made an energy independent,
(17:09):
he was controlling the border, he was getting the least
bringing them lease together. You know what's amazing to me
when it's so blatantly obvious that every city that's under
Democrat rule is a shiphol just like he's absolutely angeless
and I hate but crying nothing when they we look
at January six, I posted on the whole insurrection thing.
I said, I guarantee with Antifa guys are there in
(17:32):
BLM people are That's all coming true now and really
the video footage is coming out that they don't even
want out. Chuck Schumer doesn't want it out. He says
it's bad for the democracy to show how big a
liar you are, are, how big the FBI is working
against its own people. I mean, it's unbelievable to me,
we're going so fast. You're Kevin, You're the FBA. What
do you do? What do we know about the FBI?
(17:52):
What's going on exactly? Because this is something that I
haven't gotten into All I know is that they were there,
they were they were they were helping the there's guys
and I had to feel in our mask. They're totally
FBI guys looking pretending to be the people that are
in there. And the one dude that ex marine or something,
the guys wearing the horns and stuff. Yes, he's in
jail now, and you've got video footage of you have
(18:13):
video footage of him being led around by police officers
say yeah, check this out, check that out. And then
you have video footage of him saying, guys, we came
in what we came in to do. We're leaving peacefully,
just as President Trump told us to do. And meanwhile
you're sending back in two thousand and two thousand and one. Yeah,
Antifa and BLM going down cities, blown up cop cars,
blown up people's businesses, attacking, and nothing happened to them. Right,
(18:37):
I guarantee on the President, I send a National Guard,
you put these guys, you rest them all. Right now,
It's absolutely crazy what's going on in our country. And
it's crazy to me that you've got half the country,
You've got maybe one hundred million people or more that
I'm thinking everything is fine. It's weird. What I'm shocked at.
You can't find one liberal journalist with a majority of
(18:57):
were liberals. Most of them are for whatever you can believe.
That's why I don't even reconnis. There's not one going guys,
we got it. This is crazy what we're doing. What's
going on. You see the obviousness of what's going on.
It's it's very weird. It's very weird. And now, just
just to clarify, because this is some of this is
news to me, and I can't wait to watch this
Schumer video. I mean, that guy is he is discussing
and I'm Jewish myself and not but but you know
(19:19):
I makes me feel anti Semitic sometimes. Well, go back
to the Schumer. It was just the guy a total
duetet first of all duets, which needs to be put
out there, says he says like two or three. He says,
we need to make all these five million plus people
coming across the border American citizens right now so they
can vote. And I'm going, wait a minute, because that's
(19:40):
how they only way they go win. We need them
to reinforce our work for us. I'm going, dude, you're
the Party with Roevie Wade have killed over sixty million Americans.
You can add some votes and the womb of their mothers.
There was your work for us right there. And these
were Americans already. I mean, yeah, these guys are Americans.
And now you're trying to make these fake Americans your
Americans just so you could get more votes. Yeah, they
(20:03):
won't let they don't want to want those of it.
Here's a number one player in the tennis world, number
one in the world him, come in, you're playing the
Miami Open or playing the US Open because he's not vaccinated.
Up to five million plus that have come across the border.
Are they all vaccinated? Check? Are they all wonderful? It's
just it's the hole that they're bringing it purpose. It
keeps reaching higher and higher into beyond insanity. What's going on?
(20:26):
Do you think? What is the big what's the goal here?
Democrats are trying to get power to destroy America, just
take it down, to take China. They want. Well, look Biden.
Now they came out with all this stuff in Biden
that he actually has. They have proof now of a
payment directly to Joe Biden and his son. They have that.
So from Okay, so why is he not impeached? Right?
You want? You want? You have? You went after Bill
(20:48):
Clinton for getting a blowjob. Maybe this working tin and
getting money under the tap from China might worse than
that blowjob. I have anything. The blow job probably made
up with the you know, because he paid off the
porn star. It's like, why are we so focused on blowjobs? Guys, Like,
let's focus on the real is the problem is? Yes,
these liberal journalists, they're obsessed with blowjobs. They are gonna
(21:08):
go after wherever there's any kind of P and V
kind of stuffing the exactly Kevin, I keep saying, these
these guys just didn't get there. Dick sucked. I've never
had a blowjob, but I know liberals are obsessed with them.
I can I just say I love blowjobs, and if
you don't, you're probably a liberal. So there you go.
Have you ever read the New York Times? It is
so dry. I mean I hate reading it. I hate
the Gray Lady. But it's so try like nobody is
(21:30):
getting laid. Yeah, nobody's getting laid. I can't look at it.
It's disgusting. It's just like these are the do we
talk about. It's all Chuck Schumer's there because none of
those journalists are getting laid well, I mean, this is
this is huge news. Kevin. Yeah, um, Kevin. I did
want to ask you though, because last time we spoke,
you were on your way to try and secure some
financing for an upcoming film. Whatever happened with that hat,
(21:51):
how did it go? Yeah, we had to know, we
had I'm still lucky, guys right out there right now.
It's really weird. I got a wonderful movie. It's an
amazing movie, true story about nineteen thirty about the largest
oil find in the history the world. Pro capitalism, pro oil,
it's pro faith, it's pro family, it's pro everything. And
I'm having a hard time getting in the theater. It's
won ten awards at film festivals. Now I'm going, are
(22:12):
you kidding me? Even shot that gets put out? Well,
I'm not. I'm not. I don't have Hollywood money behind me.
So the crap that's out in theater, and there's a
lot of crap. There's a couple of good things, but
a lot of crap. I can't find one investor to
p and a money. Look, that's the riskiest, the least
riskiest investment. In a risky investment because it's the last
money in, first money back. So if anybody's listeners has
(22:32):
one point by burning a hole in your pocket, you'll
get You'll give you a producer credit, you'll get your
money back first, and I can almost guarantee a hundred
percent you will make your money back plus the interest.
It's a great movie written by an Academy nominated writer,
Dan Gordon, so it's weird. I am prepping right now.
Actually I'm leaving for North Carolina in a couple of days.
I'll be filming up there for a few weeks and
then at the end of this month. My latest movie
(22:54):
that was in theaters, Left Behind Rise of the Antichrist,
based on the eighty million best selling left Behind books
dealing with the book revelation. Um, it's going to be
on streaming and on DVD the end of this month,
end of March, So go to left Behind movie dot
com that's left get the DVD's back out there. Because
physical media, there's not a lot coming out on DVD.
So if you're the only DVD in the store, that's
(23:16):
gonna help you. Yeah, Well, Walmart or I think Walmart
ordered a couple hundred thousand copies. They believe in it,
and it's going to be streaming as well. So people
go left beyond movie dot Com they'll get more information.
And which project is the Jeff Bezos project? Which one
weren't you involved in? You know what? I did a
little guest spot on that one. It was a really
small indie. Um. I heard it wasn't very good, so
I haven't even seen it. I did it because it
(23:37):
was a buddy of mine. That exactly say. I got
this role with you, and for me it was easy
because I lived in Florida and its popped down to
Miami to do it. But I heard it didn't turn
out to So don't don't don't watch that one. Think
rady movies. I haven't seen all of them. Busy, you know,
but now you know not to work with that friend anymore,
you know what I mean. No, he's a good guy.
(23:59):
He we had a time because, I mean, the part
was fine, and I thought it was The three or
four scenes a man were fun to do and I
I like to stay busy and work, so I agree.
I agree with me. He told you at the time
that it was a bad movie. He was like, will
you be in this bad movie. No, he didn't say
he was bad. He goes You don't know until it's out. Wait,
is that the Is that the Hercules sword behind you?
(24:21):
That was the final after seven years in New Zealand
filming on the most watched TV show in the world,
Hercules Legendary Journeys. Yeah. Um, that was the gift that
given to me by the production company. And it says
to Kevin Hercules nineteen ninety three to two thousand, Um,
the journey may be over, but the legend continues. I
was kind of fantastic. Do you ever take that thing
(24:42):
off the wall and kind of play with it? Swinging
around when any any when any boys come over to
take out my seventeen year old daughter, I walked around
absolutely who her father really is? You know exactly think
about me when you're thinking of with your sword. Now, Kevin,
I will say this, if BLM, if Antifa takes over
with Biden, I would be honored if you killed me
with that sort Just take me out. That's how I want.
(25:05):
I don't want to be here anymore, if you remember,
And I was just kind of I was. I was
disappointed the President Trump didn't go after Biden during the
second debate when Biden said Antifa was an idea, it's
an idea, pretty good idea that and you're not going
to tack him on that. It's like when Kamala Harris
has been interviewed by those Pansy Network executive, you know
(25:26):
newscasters that have nob the guy says down the border,
she goes, no, but I haven't been to Europe either,
and he just let it, asking I would you want
to be the vice president? What the hell is that?
As supposed to me? Everywhere? Oh my god, it was
just guys been guy went to Russia every year for yes.
You know, it's like, you gotta know what's going on. Trump,
(25:46):
we know, has been all over the world. The guy
had a tower going up I think in Russia, and
it's like, this is the guy you want. He knows
what's going on. You know, people love him or hate him.
He did exactly what he says going to do and
everything's for the betterment of everybody. I'm both sides of
political aisle. Did you ever expect that you would realize
that Trump is that good of a guy that could
say back in the nineties when he was just you know,
(26:06):
kind of a goofy business guy. I never expected that
I would say, well, that guy, he's the only one
tell them the truth. I understand the reason why you
say goofy. But he's a smart dude. Oh yeah, but
you know he was in the commercial, I understand, and
both sides loved him. He was on all their talk
shows just fun. Minute he made a commitment to go
to the right, then they just went after him and
they turned on can't it doesn't. He doesn't have the
(26:27):
best bedside manner, which which is fine to me. I've
always said before command ramp rofits, I said, we need
a businessman running the country, not a politics absolutely not
a lawyer, because whole ideas everybody on both sides and there,
they're all freaking lawyers. And that's not the way they God,
that's not the way our foreigny founding fathers wanted people
to be in Congress. They wanted housewives, they wanted doctors,
(26:47):
they wanted farmers, they wanted, you know, people that knew
what it was like to be in the communities they
lived in. And the trouble is they do live in
their bubble, and we need people to go back and
live in their communities amongst the people that's supposed to
represent to see the damage that they're doing. But they
don't do that. Kevin, you know you live in Florida.
(27:08):
Now you're a Floridian, So I have to ask you.
As the Republican primary. You know it's still early, but
Rona Santis, I mean, what are your thoughts and especially
as you compare him to Trump, are you support coming
out to support one over the other? Do you like
both of them? What are your thoughts? I like them both.
I think the Santa is the rock star. I don't
want them to leave this stay because he's made this awesome.
You realize when we moved here four years ago, I
think the Democrat voters registered voters. When people used to
(27:31):
register and show an Idida vote, they I think they
were about three hundred thousand plus over the Republicans. It
has now flipped like seven hundred eight hundred thousand votes.
It is now the Republicans of the majority of the
voters registered voters in the state of Florida by about
four hundred probably so many massive turnaround. There's so many
(27:52):
elderly people there. Probably so many Democrats died and then
you got new people retiring and they're smart. Well, you
can see a lot of New Yorkers in New jer
in Connecticut moving down here that at the world, and
they're still, shockingly to me, they still vote the same way.
Because when I look at the I mean, the sant
has won quite easily over the guy running again for him,
but they were still he still had hundreds of thousands
(28:12):
of votes the other guy. And I want to look
at those people and go, Okay, you're here, you see
how great the state has become. Yet you want to
vote for the other guy that wants to make New
York into Florida as well. Now, it's just it's New York.
And I've always wanted to meet those people that say
that the open border is a good thing and bring
the sword. Yeah, right, exactly, bring the sword when you
meet him, and say, go ahead, now, try and convince
(28:34):
me it's well. We had a we had a sword
on Hercules. I still have one of the one of
the original swords, because we I took a lot of
stuff from each episode, a sort of voracity and a
sort of veracity mythology. Whoever held that sword could not
be lied to? And I said, can you imagine walking
in a Washington s with us sing, I mean that
would have been a great thing to bring to January sixth,
peacefully well for everything, for everythingthing, because you can you
(28:57):
imagine if Hillary Clinton actually was work? I can't, I
honestly can't imagine. I have a great imagination, people, I
can't imagine. I can't imagine Hillary saying anything with the
straight face, looking at me in the eyes. Who has
the worst cackle? Hillary or or the vice president Hick
that's a good one. I mean, take you take your
poison there, Jesus, I'd say, shut up, shut up with
(29:22):
your cackling. Women cackling. It's just the worst. It's disgusting.
But it's just ingenuous and it's not real. And you
can tell it's not real, right, they're not real America.
A lot of women are an authentic Difference, says the
Difference says. Hillary does it just because she's I think
just evil. I think comologize because she's nervous and she
knows she's not qualified. She could be I see that
(29:43):
with her, she could be turned if given the right
information from the right person, hercules type, you know that
could be Actually, Kevin, we got to ask you about
our move. Remember last time we talked about Alpha Jesus,
we offered the role to you. You claimed you're a
little too old to play Jesus. We disagree, but that's fine.
Did you were able to talk to the financer about
Alpha Jesus and what are the next steps for us?
(30:05):
I don't be honest with you. I'm having a hard
time funding my own movies. It's very frustrating. Every year
I find it. Every year I'm able least direct one movie.
I'm shooting about four or five movies a year. So
there are other people movies like the one in North
Carolinas is somebody else's. I got one of my home
state of Minnesota coming later this year, dealing with car racing.
I've got another one dealing with um Spartacus. We're doing
(30:26):
a spoof on Spartacus. We're doing a zombie movie. That
one's going Oh yeah. I mean, I like to mix
it up and get a variety of stuff. So I've
got I'm actually booked for five movies, like a one
that shoots in New Mexico. Another one shoots in Thailand. Wow,
I'm staying bastic places. I mean Thailand. You know they
have a little bit of liberalism there that I you know,
I wouldn't recommend to be in Bangkok. Bangkok is pretty
(30:49):
screwed you to stay with. Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah,
I would get out of there him. And I mean,
we know you're a busy guy, so we appreciate you
giving us some time, but could you give us some advice?
Where do we go from here? With Alpha Jesus? We
want to offer it to the rock, you know, we
think he would be phenomenal. You got to just go
on line. I mean, if you go to the Screen
Actress Guild or whatever, you can find out who represents
(31:11):
him as agent manager and send it. I'm sure he
gets about a thousand things that but you're also looking
at the guy that's gonna want twenty or thirty million
dollars up front. So right, how much is the guy?
You know? Anybody, if anybody can get a movie off
the ground, he's He's the highest paid actor in Hollywood,
is the one. He's the one. Really, Jason would be great,
would be cool as Jesus. I don't I know Jason. Yeah,
(31:36):
I met him when I was Hercules begging. He was skinny.
Now he's a huge dude, so he is was he
on Hercules as a as a young guy? No, no, no,
I met him during he was doing um what was
he doing in the late nineteen ninety two thousand and one?
He was on Stargate or something like that. Okay, got
it cool? So well if you want to. But you
know what, low key dude, really nice guy. That's so
(31:57):
that's good. So that's maybe we'll all gonna mark it
down on our list here Jason Momoa, nice guy. Let's
get him, guys, I do got a buzz. Okay, well, Kevin,
I got another one, another one, one one twenty seven.
But all of us, you guys piece up. Well, another
fantastic conversation with a fantastic man. What is there to
say other than this is the only podcast where you're
going to get Kevin Sorbo twice. So it deserves your attention,
(32:20):
It deserves your five star ratings and reviews, and it
deserves you telling people you know about this show because
we need more street thinkers. We need more street thinkers,
we need more thinkers in the deep state, and we
need more AI generated content. Guys. There were portions of
this episode that were generated by AI. Just now, I'm
going to tell you which portions because we don't even know.
We're not actually sure, So yeah, let us know which
(32:42):
parts of the show did you think were fake. You're
not going to get an answer because we don't know.
Is the Man Thinkers podcast a deep fake from the
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