March 16, 2023 • 32 mins
George attempts to lead Dan in a mindfulness meditation that goes sideways. Then, the Thinkers attend a biohacking conference in Beverly Hills, California, where they interview the father of biohacking, Dave Asprey, and a somatic sexologist, Miss Jaiya. If you made it this far, then it would be rude not to listen.
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You're listening to The Man Thinkers podcast, a show that
forges a new roadmap for the modern man on how
to best lived life. I'm George Collins, a former liberal
cut hole, and I dan't think a staunch libertarian in cell.
(05:02):
This is a safe space from safe spaces. So Dan,
you know, we've talked about this off air a little bit,
and today what I'd like to do before we kick
off the show is lead you in a mindfulness meditation
because you often come to the studio and do the
show at a very agitated state, and I'd love to
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just calm you down. That's what people, that's true, but
I help them with their own agitation. I mean, this
is agitating me right now. I know kind of bringing
this up and the way that you're bringing up because
I we had talked about it, you know, out of
the studio, and I said, no, I don't want to
do that. If you recall, I know, but you say
no to life. That's sort of your general outlook on
the world is just say no. And so one way
to look at it. Listen, you boxed me in with
(05:44):
the gun thing. You're like, how can I have a
strong opinion on guns if I've never actually did nothing?
As your lawyer, that would never hold up in court.
I'm not talking about my the court case in terms
of me killing our intern by accident. What I'm talking
about is you said my views on guns don't matter.
I did, and I'm not necessarily blaming you for that.
I'm just saying you said my views on guns don't
matter because I've never actually used a gun, and I
(06:04):
thought that was sound logic. Do you not agree that
that sound logic? I said it, so I agree with it. Okay,
So I think you've never tried meditation, so how can
you just brush it aside? You have to try it first,
So let let me leave use my logic against me,
and I appreciate that. I appreciate you doing that. I
am a man thinker. That's how you can win arguments
against me is to use things that I've said in
(06:25):
the past. Many times I'll still ignore it, but in
this case it does seem fair because you know what,
here's the thing, George. You don't have to believe yourself,
especially your past self, because you're not the same person.
So when someone says, hey, you've already said this, you say,
I don't know who that person is, and saying I
am no longer my past self is an excellent defense.
Thinkers like, if someone uses you, no longer that person
(06:45):
I myself have regenerated. Talk to me about who I
am right now in this moment. Did I do something
bad in this moment? If the answer is no, conversation over,
move on quick case over. Well okay, yeah, So with
my own logic, I appreciate that I do like to
listen to myself, so I will try. Okay, a meditation
on the show. Okay, great, So here's what we're gonna do,
and thinkers you can follow along as well if you'd
like to get into a meditative stage. Is this it? No,
(07:07):
we haven't started yet, but I'm just telling the thinkers
that they can meditate along with pot. So what I
want you to do dan is. Firstly, just close your
eyes now, yeah. Closure. It feels very unsafe. It feels
very unsafe. How about just one eye? I mean, what
do you think is going to happen? I'm not I
don't why would susceptible to an attack? Is that what
meditation even is? You know what? That's okay, you can
leave your eyes open. Here's what I wanted to take
(07:27):
a deep, deep breath through your diaphragm. Okay, here we go.
Let it out through your mouth. What was that? I
don't know. You're making us breathe all weird. It's making
our something's got caught my lunger something. I don't know.
You're the one leading the meditation. We honestly haven't even begune.
So I'm just sort of really, how long are these
things usually? I mean I was gonna go for a
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few minutes if you could just you know, power through it.
I don't know if you'll be able to. Okay, here
we go. So you're taking a deep breath, right. I
want you to concentrate on the sensations in your body.
For example, you might have an its stomach hurts. Okay, okay, well,
let's focus on that. Focus on your stomach ulcers and
just feel them. Just get in touch with the pain
you feel in your stomach from your terrible diet. I
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got to say, this thing's supposed to be relaxing me, right,
and I gotta say it's pissing me off. But everything
pisses you off then, And that's what I'm trying to do,
is I'm trying to show you ad meditation to the list.
Your physical condition is worsened since we began this meditation.
Like you, you look way worse. A Is it all right?
If I beat my chest to get my kicker going,
my ticker going, I didn't know you had a kicker
or a ticker. Do something high energy or something to
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just get I just got to get restarted here, all right.
Beat your chest for a second, just get it out,
beat your chest. And also, Dan, I did want to
mention to you, and this is probably you know. I
know we were meditating, but it seems like you're incapable
of doing that. I just wanted to let you know
I have struck another deal with iHeart, and I am
going to have my own podcast starting this summer. So
I just wanted to let you know. Really, but I
will still do man thinks. If they want to continue
(08:52):
man thinkers, I'm happy to do it. But they did
want me. What's the podcast? What would they let you do?
It's called Couples Therapy with George Colin and his wife
and what's your Wife's his wife? That's how she's credited. Well,
I don't want to give away her identity yet because
I'm slightly concerned that if you know, the thinkers out
there knew who she was, they might kind of slide
(09:12):
up in her DMS and whatnot because they know about
our open relationship situation. So you basically, anymous woman right
who is my wife? We'll talk to a couple's therapist
about the fact that my wife is cucking me left
and right. And we might even have some of the
young men come on who have been sleeping with my
wife and kind of, you know, describe the situation and
get to express their feelings about it. So I'm very
open minded to the whole process, and I just want
(09:34):
the public here. Why. I mean, it's honestly not a
bad idea for a show. It just sounds so embarrassing.
They must have offered you so much money to do this. Well,
the money is it's sort of going to be more
of a back end deal. So if there are listeners,
maybe I'll see some money, but there's no money upfront.
No money upfront. Well, listen, this is a passion project.
That's passion to talk to these young men. I mean
just literally a passion. I mean it's passion because I
(09:57):
care about it. Yeah, and it's also a passion project
because we're gonna be talking about sex, specifically the sex
my wife has been having without me. I'm getting passionate
because this is so stupid and annoying to me that
you would do this. It's going to take away time
from the show, and you're just going to humiliate yourself further.
Why is it going to be humiliating? I mean, if
Paolo or Ricardo or Taijuan comes on and they talk about,
(10:18):
you know what sexual positions they've explored via the Kama
Sutra with my wife, why is that humiliating to me?
You seem to like being humiliated on this show. Well,
I'm never humiliated on this show. I feel like I'm
the humiliator. I'm in the show. You get humiliated, right,
I like being interesting to see I would say I
like it by women, anyone on the show. You know
no one, Well, then maybe you just don't know it,
(10:39):
because a lot of times people don't know they're subconscious,
which it sounds like it is what's happening in your case.
You don't know yourself that well, that's okay. You literally
couldn't even do thirty seconds in meditation. Just now, this
is the meditation. If this is the meditation, now, I
feel amazing. I feel start meditating a long time ago.
Maybe you did, but I'm in the moment. I'm present
with how humiliating you you are, and that feels great.
(11:02):
Thank you for just being kind of the slovenly little
man that you are. First of all, your personal style
m once every four or five days. You eat terribly,
and you wear bad clothes, cheap, shitty clothes. I just
meant internally, oh, internally, I'm on a much higher level
than you. I mean, my level of consciousness so and
it's so high that it kind of goes back around
because you keep desperately trying to get to that height.
(11:23):
And I get it, I get it. You need that.
That's okay, And I just wanted to ask you one question, Dan,
and then we can kind of move on as my
wife ever approached you about you know, I don't know,
because she said a kind of thing your wife is, Oh,
you've never met her. She never reached out or anything.
She's not reached out. She I don't think she knows
this podcast exists, to be honest, because she did express
how she brought up in cells the other day and
(11:43):
she was like, man, that's so that's so sad, you know,
but there are men out there that and she was like,
we should you know, we should do something about that.
And then I just started thinking, oh, no, she's going
to sleep with Dan because that would that would really
kill me. So please if she does, if you want
to give me her information, well I don't want you
to wise because you want to reach out, I'm saying,
don't do that. Well, it sounds like she's interested in me.
Well I wouldn't go that far. I mean, she just
(12:03):
expressed some remorse for the state of it in cells
in our maybe and I should get, you know, a
coffee or something. I think she'd like measurements. What is
your wife look like? What do you talk about measurements?
What are you talking about measure I'm just curiously think,
do you think men measure their partners. Think men measure
the women there with. You don't know kind of white measurements.
What do you mean measurements? That's not a thing. What
is her cup size? Her bra cup size? I don't know.
(12:26):
I mean I do know. You don't know that about
your own Why that would be the first thing that
you exchange in terms of information? And you are so
far what you so? Hi, my name is Dan. What's
your cup size? Hey? You say, Hey, I'm George, I'm
a cuckold. Well, but that's more of a spiritual you know,
I'm I'm laying out like who I am as a person.
You're just saying, give me information, personal information about you.
(12:46):
You're asking a question. I'm I'm making a statement. Those
are two different things. That is very different. Sure, when
you put it that way, it's really different. Well, look,
we've got a great show, guys, one of the best.
I have to I have to say, George, this meditation
was fantastic. I feel really good right now. I'm breathing better.
Whatever you were doing in the beginning, that was bad meditation.
Though I can I can get used to this. I
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liked how I like how worked up I am well,
the meditation ended a long time ago. I think you're
just in a good mood now because you just you
like the idea of me getting and feeling humiliated. But
isn't it isn't I thought meditation is sort of like
the ends justify the means kind of thing. It doesn't
matter how you get there, as long as you're relaxed
by the end. So whatever you gotta do, isn't that
like a meditation thing, Whatever you got to do to
get there, and then by the end, if you're feeling good,
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you've meditated. So you think meditation is just you watching
weird porn and jacking off. That's a meditation to you.
That is, someone could say they're meditating. No, and I
thought meditation is all about not You know, you don't judge,
but you feel good right now because you're judging. Is
so good in my life. So by your own definition,
by your own logic, coming full circle, by your own logic,
you have not medic. That wasn't me because that was
(13:50):
not me. Wow, that past person was not me. Well,
now who I am now? I the person I am now?
I have meditated and I'm not guilty of any form
of sexual harassment. I hope the Thinkers appreciate the mental
gymnastics we just put on display for you there, because
that is how you engage in a dialogue. Thinkers. Okay,
well great, We've got a great show emailing Bible Brothers
(14:11):
podcast at gmail dot com. Remember to write my name
in their Dan Bible Brothers is Dan's other podcasts. Actually,
that's it, that's the wrong podcaststaart Is. We See where
your Heart is, Dane, We see where your heart is. Look,
I'm just collecting a paycheck. I know you are. I
know you are, And that's what I'm trying to do.
Podcast and guys, remember to check out Cuckold coming out
(14:33):
this summer on iHeartMedia if I Heart Media still exists
by then. And um, we have a great show for
you today, a fantastic show Thinkers. Today is a very
special episode because we hit the streets, okay, and we
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went to something called the bio Hacking Conference in Beverly Hills,
California to explore the world of biohacking. It was a
pretty interesting day, was it not, Dan. It was a
fantastic day. We talked to so many interesting people. You're
gonna hear some interviews we talked to a somatic sexologist.
We talked miss Dave Asbury, the inventor of bulletproof coffee
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and now runs Danger Coffee. If you don't know, Thinker's
bulletproof coffee is where you take coffee and you drop
a stick of butter in it and then you put
it in a blender. And then he tellings that and
apparently it makes me Dave Asprey. And the guy looks
I know you're not gonna be able to see him,
although there will be some video content if you check
out our socials at Man Underscore Thinkers. The guy looks
like Tony Stark. I mean, he looks like a superhero.
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So if anyone's going to live to one hundred and eighty,
which is his goal, I do believe it would be him.
The hubris at this conference, the lust for immortality was
just everywhere. Well, we're going to live a lot longer
with some of these products. I was high. I was
flying high at this conference with all the products and
with all that butter in my coffee. It was delicious
and so were the products. So check out everything that
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we learned at the Bicking conference. All right, we are
here with Dave aspray the father of biohacking day. How
does it feel to have that title? I was a
little surprised when some big media outlet said it, but
it's true. I started the first conference, I named it.
Other wrote the definition, and my name's in the dictionary.
So okay, Yeah, it feels good. It's great started a movement. Well,
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then you're the perfect person to ask for our viewers
and listeners at home who maybe aren't too familiar with biohacking.
Just what is the simple definition of biohacking? The art
and science of changing the environment around you and inside
of you so you have full control of your own biology.
It's just about making your body in your mind do
what you want instead of what they do automatically. Because
that sucks. Which part of that sucks are we saying,
(16:44):
because say breathe, my body breathes automatically. But that's I'm
okay with that doesn't automatically breathe very well, Our show
man thinkers, you know, we're trying to maximize men's potential,
their health, their spiritual health, or physical health. Everything trying
to maximi is it or are you actually are you
doing it? We're maximizing it. We're maximizing. It's getting linguistic
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programming right. The language is important. So what is something
that you would say, is someone's hacking their bio back? Yeah,
someone's just got a brain tap. Yeah. What are some
of the things you think, you know, if if a
man wanted to start it or a woman wanted to
start out biohacking, what are some of the most simple
things they could do to kind of lead them down
that path. You're probably getting bad sleep, even if you're
(17:28):
getting enough sleep, which you're also probably not getting. So
if you could sleep more in less time, you would win.
And the reason you want to do that, well, there's
a lot of them, but one of them has to
do a testosterone and there's two hormones that everyone is lacking.
Men right now are forty five percent lower in testosterone
than they were fifty years ago. We com men, soy boys,
(17:48):
damn straight, So you just steak already. The reason this
matters is that testosterone in men and women at different
levels is the hormone of desire, not just bedroom desire,
but desire to do something that matters, to serve your community,
to be a parent, to achieve in your career, and
to take care of yourself. So low testosterone equals eating
grass fed red meat, eggs, and butter saturated fat, which
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is the building block for your sex hormones, and a
healthy brain is necessary. I was a raw vegan. It's bad,
don't do it. What about high cholesterol? Is that like
a myth? Is that a problem or you've concerned with
that if you eat too much red meat, too many animals,
or is that not a thing? No, high cholesterol is
not a thing. It was just easy to measure. In
the nineteen thirties, and the person who made the foods
(18:30):
that suppressed cholesterol Kellogg's corn flakes. Doctor Kellogg was a
cult leader who believed that sexual desire was the root
of all evil, so he invented low fat foods to
drop cholesterol, to drop testosterone because he thought it would
make the world a better place. Corn flakes would make
you stop master bad. I didn't know that. He absolutely good.
Graham crackers, Yes, same thing. These are foods designed to
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make weak human beings. Screw that noise. We are done
with that. Give me the steak. And if someone wants
to eat a cricket based soy burger, nonsense, whatever you
go do that, and well, I'll inherit your assets. Wow,
that's a little woo woo. You know, if you speak
of inheriting assets and you know I've seen before that
you plan to live to one hundred and eighty years old?
Is that rex? Still? No, it's at least one hundred
(19:13):
and eighty and I don't to limit things. Okay, So
even to most people that sounds insane. Let's think about
this now. Today, there are people who are in a
one hundred and twenty years old You don't believe that. Okay,
that's our current best. When they were born, we didn't
have airplanes invented yet, and they were going to fight
World War One largely on horseback. Do you think that,
now that we know about DNA, mitochondria, antibiotics, the Internet,
(19:35):
PubMed the ability to search any medical research ever done,
that we might just do fifty percent better than our
current best in the next hundred years. You're making it
sound easy. It's in the bag. I just said one
eighty because it's only fifty percent better. I am eleven
and a quarter years younger biologically in the most advanced
tests you can do of that than my chronological age.
I do not identify as a forty nine year old.
Identify as a thirty eight year old, because that's what
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the fricking numbers say. I mean, I gotta say, you
look jacked. You look cool as hell. You got these
awesome sunglasses. You almost almost round me like Tony Stark.
You're like a superhero. Yeah, he's trying to do a
little iron man. I was a three hundred pound computer hacker.
This is nasty, precedented that this is possible. And I
work out less than you, guys, I promise you. Yeah,
how often do you work out? Five minutes a week?
What do you do? Do the upgrade lab stuff? We
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could put muscle on five times faster than picking stuff up.
We can do cardio about twelve to sixteen times faster
than the spin class. You're just picking up rocks and
running away from tigers. That's what all exercise is today,
unless you use AI and data to get exactly the
signal in your body to make it do what you
want real quick. Just by looking at us, who do
you think is more unhealthy? Me or Dan? Let's see,
(20:38):
I mean he looks bad and he's sucking it in.
Don't sucking your gun. No, I'm not sucking. I just
stand up. I stood up straight. Either you drank last night,
you've got food out maybe a little bit of both. Yeah,
we um at man thinkers. We're trying to start some
of our own supplements and saw our own brand. Now
at this point, they are just pills filled with SAMs,
capsules of SAMs. But someone like you came out and
(20:59):
said you're getting wrong. They're filled with silica. Nah, thank you, yes, silica.
That's yeah, so get raw silica artist the power of sad.
But you could call it like Sandman is a sleep supplement.
You guys have billionaires. Thank you so much. Perfect. Yeah,
I feel cooler and smarter and stronger just sitting next
to you. And I'm intimidated by it because you look
(21:19):
like Tony Stark. You're you're older than me, but you're
actually younger than me. Yeah, you're letter pre younger, which
is bizarre. The father of biohacking right here, Dave Aspray,
one of the best guys in the biz. We really
appreciate you taking the time to talk to us some
man think. Yeah, thank you so much. And a sir
before we go, is there anything that you want to
plug for the people other than your danger coffee. The
other thing I'd say, go to own an upgrade labs
dot com. This is the chance to be a biohacker
(21:41):
and to biohack your community. It's a great business thing
that you can start and just be a part of
this movement to take control of our bodies. So I
don't want anyone else controlling it. I'll do that. Thanks,
wow controller much guys, thank you so much for joining us.
A man thinkers appreciate you, Dave well thinkers. Then we
sat down with a very interesting woman. Her name was
(22:02):
Miss Jaia. She is a semantic sexologist, which is someone
who essentially studies the body via sex and sexual exploration.
She just has a lot of sex and claims that
it's studying and that's fair because that's what a lot
of research is. You're just doing something and you're saying, well,
I'm also doing it for this reason. Yeah, Semantic sexology
helps people feel their sexuality more fully and more profoundly.
(22:24):
And you know, you could think of miss Jaia as
the polar opposite to Dan. She is, first of all
a woman. She is a woman who knows a lot
about sex, has had a lot of sex leans into
her sexual side, is not afraid of it, does not
feel shamed by it. She I think we have I
think we have the description for her. She is just
different from you, Dan, that it was almost like watching
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you and Miss Jaia talk to each other was like, Wow,
you were like an alien from another point. It's always
like that. No, it's always like that watching me talk
to somebody because I have an interesting perspective. I'm really
good at conversation with them, and that's why it's always
interesting no matter who I talk to. Do you remember, Dan,
miss Gaia kind of tried to make out with me.
I don't know if you remember that. I don't remember that.
You don't, well, no, I don't remember that. You're just
(23:07):
remember that? Are you gonna sewer? No? I was flattered
by her, So why are we bringing it up? I
just wanted to thinkers to know that Miss Ji and
I not only did we connect on a friendship, you
felt the need to bring that up. I just wanted
to think us to know that a woman with a
lot of who is very in touch with her sexual energy.
Looked at George Collins and said, making you need to
be kissed. Oh, we'll see all right, we are here
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with Jaia. She is a semantic sexologist. I think so
much for being on man thinkers today. It's my pleasure.
Thank you so much for having me first question, what
is sex? What is sex? Well? The deep answer is
that sex is a tool to help us remember more
deeply who we actually are. So sex used recreationally it's
very different than sex used recreationally recreational being for baby making. No,
(23:58):
so yeah, sex is something that we can and have
for baby making, but more like, how are we recreating ourselves?
So when we utilize sex, like people utilizing sexual energy
to move it through their whole bodies, for example, we
start to remember and we start to unify. So we
come into a place where we're less separate from each other,
and we move into unity, and that is the recreation.
(24:20):
Let me ask you about semen retention. Do you consider
that a biohack? Would men benefit from retaining their semen
or are they preventing me? I retain my semen, you know,
and I want to just be told that it's the
right decision, and maybe it's not. You tell me, GI
is it semen retention? Is there anything to that? I
think it's different for every single person. If you're having
sex and then you spike prolactin, then it may be
(24:41):
a very wise thing to retain semen, because then you
won't get that prolactin spike. Right, Does it make you
feel better? You know what's interesting? When I started doing it,
I did notice a difference. It's now become normalized where
I don't. I don't know when you say you were
in old pain, well, initially, but I think your body
kind of adjusts. How right, we'll say you are still
in pain? Then, Dan, here's the thing. When I ejaculate now,
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I do notice. Although it's pleasurable and that's great, I
do notice the next couple of days. I maybe it's
just in my head, maybe it's plassy boat, but I
feel a dip and it motivates me to not ejaculate
because I want to, almost like a hangover. I don't
know if it's in my head or if there's anything
behind that. What do you think, Jack, Well, yesterday there
was actually a doctor here talking about testosterone does dip
a little bit for a few hours afterwards, And I wonder,
you know, how is that based upon different biochemistry? Is
(25:27):
like maybe yours dips a little bit longer. And you're
a dipper, right, And then there's also like where's the
sexual energy going? So what are you doing with your
semen retention? Like are you pulling it? Are you able
to pull it through your whole body? I don't think so.
I feel like I would know if I'm doing that,
you know, and I don't really feel that that's the key.
So if you're going to practice that, really learn how
to pull it through your whole body, so then your
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whole body is bathed in their neural chemistry, bathing in
my own semen. Let's do it, like, yes, yes, I
have seen some people where they retain a lot over
a long part of their lifetime, and it can sometimes
get infections and stuff like that because the semen is
what coming out of their eyes or something. Or Oh,
it's just like it gets backed up and energetically it's
like getting like kind of energetically clogged right and constipated.
(26:12):
So you don't want semen constipation. Oh, you don't want that.
And I've been seeming you want out of the bottom
out of the body. It seems like you're very tapped
into sexual energy in general. Right, So when you walk
down the street, can you just tell okay, she's got
a good sexual energy. He does, and he does, like
do you know right away if a person is a
good lover. So one of the things that I created
was a typing system. So when I'm looking at people,
(26:34):
I'm often reading who they are erotically. You can feel
that what do you Yeah, if you were to read us,
what what what's the vibe? I know you don't have
the questionnaire and everything, but what what's the vibe? First?
And first thing, I'd say you were more of an
energetic and you're more of a sexual maybe sensual and there,
thank you. I do consider myself. He's a bottom, that's
what you're saying. No, no, you don't understand. And he's
(26:56):
sort of like toxic man. Oh I know. Oh, so
like an energetic as someone who is sensitive to energies
and is more of a sensitive person. He does. He
is kind of a snowflake. No no no, no, no, I'm
just I'm in touch with my feelings. I'm emotionally intelligent, giant,
And they'd like anticipation space tease, so like like like
(27:19):
the moment before the kiss is super hot, like you've
just felt the energy shift. That's like big, I'm getting nervous.
What's going on? Make an eye contentently? Holy moly? And
is there any sense of George hating himself a little bit?
So when he gets the kiss it's like, I don't
deserve this. I'm sort of you know, pathetic, trash or something.
I didn't know I'd have to kiss George to find out. Wow, Well,
(27:40):
you know, if we have to, you know, feel free
to do it. But I don't want to put you
on the spot yet. I want to put on spot.
You don't have to answer this, but in your own
sex life, don't hard what to do? Well, I'm not.
I don't know. I'm giving her options. Are do you
find that your lovers are intimidated by you because you're
so tapped into sexual energy? Are your lover like scared
to have sex with you? Sometimes men can be intimidated.
(28:03):
You know, people can be intimidated, But I choose people
who aren't. You know, if I'm feeling that somebody is intimidated,
then I wouldn't necessarily bring them in as a lover,
because then we're always in that power dynamic where it's
not so sexy. Well, well, let me ask you this.
What did we not ask you so far that we
should have. Did you not ask me that you should have?
(28:24):
That's a really good question. Kind of cheap though, because
he's thinking of a question. I think a good question
that a lot of men want to know is how
do I become a really great lover to any woman?
Give us the hack, The easiest hack. The easiest hack
is understanding that there are five different archetypes. And so
the first one is the energetic, which was you sensual
(28:46):
I talked about. This is someone who is much more
in touch with their sensuality, much more then the sexual.
The sexual is just interested in what we think sexist,
so penetration, orgasm, getting to the climax, that's the second
jack hammering, going right for it. And then there's the kinkie,
which I talked about, which is someone who's turned on
by both the sensation of kink, so that could be slapping, spanking, ropes,
(29:09):
or the psychology of king. Does that mean there's something
wrong with those people, No, not at all. This is
just they're just turned on by the taboo. And then
the final ones the shape shifter. And the shape shifter
is someone a wizard, Yes, they are like a wizard.
There's someone who is turned on by all of this.
They're the ultimate lover. So you know, if you want
to become the ultimate lover, learn how to become a
(29:29):
shape shifter. That's these do you get a little badger
or something? So people know we should definitely give a
shape shifter badges, say I am. It's like, this is
the best lover ever. Do you ever get sick of
just talking about sex all the time? I do? What's
what else? What's after? I was talking about it for
thirty years? Yeah, So what do you like to do?
Like play checkers or what's well, there's a number of things.
(29:52):
I would have been a singer had I not become
a sexologist. So I love singing, I love music, I
love creating music. And I also only have gotten really
into psychedelic medicine. Like see, this is why we had
that energetic you know. I mean I it really saved
my life so or macrodose. So I I was diagnosed
(30:15):
with severe CPTSD wow um, which was treatment resistant. I
lived with it, but I was high functioning, you know,
like super high functioning. It actually helped I think in
a lot of ways to have this success and career
that I did. But I got to the point where
it's like, I really like, I will do anything you
know to help with this. And I found out about
(30:35):
maps and m DMA therapy, um, and so that changed
my life. Well, congrass, that's not an easy thing to
go through, and to to do it successfully is really impressive.
That's awesome. Thank you. I think I'm a sex professional now. Yeah. Well,
I think I understand sex more than anyone else. Have
sex now I think I can. Yeah, I mean I've
wanted to do do for a really long time. He hasn't
(30:56):
been open. I really want to get on a mission
to get you, like you virginized, if that's true. Also,
at the biohacking conference, I'm sure there's some people that
did you go to the mixer last night? I didn't
even know there was a mixer, you know, they just
told us a whole dating thing. Oh wow, fellow biohackers.
I think I would have done well there. Yeah all right,
well next biohacking conference, maybe you know. Really great to
meet you. Thank you so much, Thank you so much.
(31:18):
Is there anything we can plug for our listeners and reviews?
Are there? Where can we find your information? You're you're
anything you want to plug? Yeah? It's erotic breakthrough dot com.
People can go there and take the quiz to find
out what type they are, and then you know if
you're in a relationship and you want to hack that,
and then you can go and have your partner do it,
and then you'll know more about who each other are,
so you can go directly to what actually turns them
(31:39):
on as opposed to like trying a sex technique that
isn't going to work because maybe they're energetic. Thank you
so much, enjoy your time at the biohacking. I hope
you guys you have some great sex with some friends
that you make tonight or tomorrow. I'm not sure how
you operate, but this is this is why he's a virgin.
Why why I'm just I'm saying, I hope you have
great sex. I think it's a nice thing to be somebody. Okay, well,
(32:00):
you know, to Jia, perhaps because she's open than everyone great,
the whole world, the whole world have sex, then we'll
have more peace. Absolutely. Thank you so much, A right,
thank you, Jia, Thank you to miss Jia, thank you
to Dave aspray and miss Jia. If you're listening, I
am so open to that makeout session, the situation when
my wife has really taken a dark turn, so I
very desperately save it for the podcast. Yeah, you're right, guys,
(32:22):
remember to check out my upcoming podcast, cuck hold c
U c K h O l D. I don't believe
that's the correct spelling. That's going to be a huge problem.
It's cuckold. There's no age in there. Huh. This has
helped me so much. I love seeing you in this
kind of pathetic, paltry state. I feel so relaxed. This
has been a really meditative, healthy episode. Thank you George
(32:42):
for doing what you do. The whole thing has been
just one long meditation. Thank you for that. A really
great episode of really relaxing episode. Five stars. Thank you
so much for listening, talk about us, Tell your friends
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You're listening to The Man Thinkers podcast, a show that
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to best lived life. I'm George Collins, a former liberal
cut hole, and I dan't think a staunch libertarian in cell.
(05:02):
This is a safe space from safe spaces. So Dan,
you know, we've talked about this off air a little bit,
and today what I'd like to do before we kick
off the show is lead you in a mindfulness meditation
because you often come to the studio and do the
show at a very agitated state, and I'd love to
(05:22):
just calm you down. That's what people, that's true, but
I help them with their own agitation. I mean, this
is agitating me right now. I know kind of bringing
this up and the way that you're bringing up because
I we had talked about it, you know, out of
the studio, and I said, no, I don't want to
do that. If you recall, I know, but you say
no to life. That's sort of your general outlook on
the world is just say no. And so one way
to look at it. Listen, you boxed me in with
(05:44):
the gun thing. You're like, how can I have a
strong opinion on guns if I've never actually did nothing?
As your lawyer, that would never hold up in court.
I'm not talking about my the court case in terms
of me killing our intern by accident. What I'm talking
about is you said my views on guns don't matter.
I did, and I'm not necessarily blaming you for that.
I'm just saying you said my views on guns don't
matter because I've never actually used a gun, and I
(06:04):
thought that was sound logic. Do you not agree that
that sound logic? I said it, so I agree with it. Okay,
So I think you've never tried meditation, so how can
you just brush it aside? You have to try it first,
So let let me leave use my logic against me,
and I appreciate that. I appreciate you doing that. I
am a man thinker. That's how you can win arguments
against me is to use things that I've said in
(06:25):
the past. Many times I'll still ignore it, but in
this case it does seem fair because you know what,
here's the thing, George. You don't have to believe yourself,
especially your past self, because you're not the same person.
So when someone says, hey, you've already said this, you say,
I don't know who that person is, and saying I
am no longer my past self is an excellent defense.
Thinkers like, if someone uses you, no longer that person
(06:45):
I myself have regenerated. Talk to me about who I
am right now in this moment. Did I do something
bad in this moment? If the answer is no, conversation over,
move on quick case over. Well okay, yeah, So with
my own logic, I appreciate that I do like to
listen to myself, so I will try. Okay, a meditation
on the show. Okay, great, So here's what we're gonna do,
and thinkers you can follow along as well if you'd
like to get into a meditative stage. Is this it? No,
(07:07):
we haven't started yet, but I'm just telling the thinkers
that they can meditate along with pot. So what I
want you to do dan is. Firstly, just close your
eyes now, yeah. Closure. It feels very unsafe. It feels
very unsafe. How about just one eye? I mean, what
do you think is going to happen? I'm not I
don't why would susceptible to an attack? Is that what
meditation even is? You know what? That's okay, you can
leave your eyes open. Here's what I wanted to take
(07:27):
a deep, deep breath through your diaphragm. Okay, here we go.
Let it out through your mouth. What was that? I
don't know. You're making us breathe all weird. It's making
our something's got caught my lunger something. I don't know.
You're the one leading the meditation. We honestly haven't even begune.
So I'm just sort of really, how long are these
things usually? I mean I was gonna go for a
(07:48):
few minutes if you could just you know, power through it.
I don't know if you'll be able to. Okay, here
we go. So you're taking a deep breath, right. I
want you to concentrate on the sensations in your body.
For example, you might have an its stomach hurts. Okay, okay, well,
let's focus on that. Focus on your stomach ulcers and
just feel them. Just get in touch with the pain
you feel in your stomach from your terrible diet. I
(08:08):
got to say, this thing's supposed to be relaxing me, right,
and I gotta say it's pissing me off. But everything
pisses you off then, And that's what I'm trying to do,
is I'm trying to show you ad meditation to the list.
Your physical condition is worsened since we began this meditation.
Like you, you look way worse. A Is it all right?
If I beat my chest to get my kicker going,
my ticker going, I didn't know you had a kicker
or a ticker. Do something high energy or something to
(08:30):
just get I just got to get restarted here, all right.
Beat your chest for a second, just get it out,
beat your chest. And also, Dan, I did want to
mention to you, and this is probably you know. I
know we were meditating, but it seems like you're incapable
of doing that. I just wanted to let you know
I have struck another deal with iHeart, and I am
going to have my own podcast starting this summer. So
I just wanted to let you know. Really, but I
will still do man thinks. If they want to continue
(08:52):
man thinkers, I'm happy to do it. But they did
want me. What's the podcast? What would they let you do?
It's called Couples Therapy with George Colin and his wife
and what's your Wife's his wife? That's how she's credited. Well,
I don't want to give away her identity yet because
I'm slightly concerned that if you know, the thinkers out
there knew who she was, they might kind of slide
(09:12):
up in her DMS and whatnot because they know about
our open relationship situation. So you basically, anymous woman right
who is my wife? We'll talk to a couple's therapist
about the fact that my wife is cucking me left
and right. And we might even have some of the
young men come on who have been sleeping with my
wife and kind of, you know, describe the situation and
get to express their feelings about it. So I'm very
open minded to the whole process, and I just want
(09:34):
the public here. Why. I mean, it's honestly not a
bad idea for a show. It just sounds so embarrassing.
They must have offered you so much money to do this. Well,
the money is it's sort of going to be more
of a back end deal. So if there are listeners,
maybe I'll see some money, but there's no money upfront.
No money upfront. Well, listen, this is a passion project.
That's passion to talk to these young men. I mean
just literally a passion. I mean it's passion because I
(09:57):
care about it. Yeah, and it's also a passion project
because we're gonna be talking about sex, specifically the sex
my wife has been having without me. I'm getting passionate
because this is so stupid and annoying to me that
you would do this. It's going to take away time
from the show, and you're just going to humiliate yourself further.
Why is it going to be humiliating? I mean, if
Paolo or Ricardo or Taijuan comes on and they talk about,
(10:18):
you know what sexual positions they've explored via the Kama
Sutra with my wife, why is that humiliating to me?
You seem to like being humiliated on this show. Well,
I'm never humiliated on this show. I feel like I'm
the humiliator. I'm in the show. You get humiliated, right,
I like being interesting to see I would say I
like it by women, anyone on the show. You know
no one, Well, then maybe you just don't know it,
(10:39):
because a lot of times people don't know they're subconscious,
which it sounds like it is what's happening in your case.
You don't know yourself that well, that's okay. You literally
couldn't even do thirty seconds in meditation. Just now, this
is the meditation. If this is the meditation, now, I
feel amazing. I feel start meditating a long time ago.
Maybe you did, but I'm in the moment. I'm present
with how humiliating you you are, and that feels great.
(11:02):
Thank you for just being kind of the slovenly little
man that you are. First of all, your personal style
m once every four or five days. You eat terribly,
and you wear bad clothes, cheap, shitty clothes. I just
meant internally, oh, internally, I'm on a much higher level
than you. I mean, my level of consciousness so and
it's so high that it kind of goes back around
because you keep desperately trying to get to that height.
(11:23):
And I get it, I get it. You need that.
That's okay, And I just wanted to ask you one question, Dan,
and then we can kind of move on as my
wife ever approached you about you know, I don't know,
because she said a kind of thing your wife is, Oh,
you've never met her. She never reached out or anything.
She's not reached out. She I don't think she knows
this podcast exists, to be honest, because she did express
how she brought up in cells the other day and
(11:43):
she was like, man, that's so that's so sad, you know,
but there are men out there that and she was like,
we should you know, we should do something about that.
And then I just started thinking, oh, no, she's going
to sleep with Dan because that would that would really
kill me. So please if she does, if you want
to give me her information, well I don't want you
to wise because you want to reach out, I'm saying,
don't do that. Well, it sounds like she's interested in me.
Well I wouldn't go that far. I mean, she just
(12:03):
expressed some remorse for the state of it in cells
in our maybe and I should get, you know, a
coffee or something. I think she'd like measurements. What is
your wife look like? What do you talk about measurements?
What are you talking about measure I'm just curiously think,
do you think men measure their partners. Think men measure
the women there with. You don't know kind of white measurements.
What do you mean measurements? That's not a thing. What
is her cup size? Her bra cup size? I don't know.
(12:26):
I mean I do know. You don't know that about
your own Why that would be the first thing that
you exchange in terms of information? And you are so
far what you so? Hi, my name is Dan. What's
your cup size? Hey? You say, Hey, I'm George, I'm
a cuckold. Well, but that's more of a spiritual you know,
I'm I'm laying out like who I am as a person.
You're just saying, give me information, personal information about you.
(12:46):
You're asking a question. I'm I'm making a statement. Those
are two different things. That is very different. Sure, when
you put it that way, it's really different. Well, look,
we've got a great show, guys, one of the best.
I have to I have to say, George, this meditation
was fantastic. I feel really good right now. I'm breathing better.
Whatever you were doing in the beginning, that was bad meditation.
Though I can I can get used to this. I
(13:07):
liked how I like how worked up I am well,
the meditation ended a long time ago. I think you're
just in a good mood now because you just you
like the idea of me getting and feeling humiliated. But
isn't it isn't I thought meditation is sort of like
the ends justify the means kind of thing. It doesn't
matter how you get there, as long as you're relaxed
by the end. So whatever you gotta do, isn't that
like a meditation thing, Whatever you got to do to
get there, and then by the end, if you're feeling good,
(13:29):
you've meditated. So you think meditation is just you watching
weird porn and jacking off. That's a meditation to you.
That is, someone could say they're meditating. No, and I
thought meditation is all about not You know, you don't judge,
but you feel good right now because you're judging. Is
so good in my life. So by your own definition,
by your own logic, coming full circle, by your own logic,
you have not medic. That wasn't me because that was
(13:50):
not me. Wow, that past person was not me. Well,
now who I am now? I the person I am now?
I have meditated and I'm not guilty of any form
of sexual harassment. I hope the Thinkers appreciate the mental
gymnastics we just put on display for you there, because
that is how you engage in a dialogue. Thinkers. Okay,
well great, We've got a great show emailing Bible Brothers
(14:11):
podcast at gmail dot com. Remember to write my name
in their Dan Bible Brothers is Dan's other podcasts. Actually,
that's it, that's the wrong podcaststaart Is. We See where
your Heart is, Dane, We see where your heart is. Look,
I'm just collecting a paycheck. I know you are. I
know you are, And that's what I'm trying to do.
Podcast and guys, remember to check out Cuckold coming out
(14:33):
this summer on iHeartMedia if I Heart Media still exists
by then. And um, we have a great show for
you today, a fantastic show Thinkers. Today is a very
special episode because we hit the streets, okay, and we
(14:55):
went to something called the bio Hacking Conference in Beverly Hills,
California to explore the world of biohacking. It was a
pretty interesting day, was it not, Dan. It was a
fantastic day. We talked to so many interesting people. You're
gonna hear some interviews we talked to a somatic sexologist.
We talked miss Dave Asbury, the inventor of bulletproof coffee
(15:18):
and now runs Danger Coffee. If you don't know, Thinker's
bulletproof coffee is where you take coffee and you drop
a stick of butter in it and then you put
it in a blender. And then he tellings that and
apparently it makes me Dave Asprey. And the guy looks
I know you're not gonna be able to see him,
although there will be some video content if you check
out our socials at Man Underscore Thinkers. The guy looks
like Tony Stark. I mean, he looks like a superhero.
(15:39):
So if anyone's going to live to one hundred and eighty,
which is his goal, I do believe it would be him.
The hubris at this conference, the lust for immortality was
just everywhere. Well, we're going to live a lot longer
with some of these products. I was high. I was
flying high at this conference with all the products and
with all that butter in my coffee. It was delicious
and so were the products. So check out everything that
(15:59):
we learned at the Bicking conference. All right, we are
here with Dave aspray the father of biohacking day. How
does it feel to have that title? I was a
little surprised when some big media outlet said it, but
it's true. I started the first conference, I named it.
Other wrote the definition, and my name's in the dictionary.
So okay, Yeah, it feels good. It's great started a movement. Well,
(16:22):
then you're the perfect person to ask for our viewers
and listeners at home who maybe aren't too familiar with biohacking.
Just what is the simple definition of biohacking? The art
and science of changing the environment around you and inside
of you so you have full control of your own biology.
It's just about making your body in your mind do
what you want instead of what they do automatically. Because
that sucks. Which part of that sucks are we saying,
(16:44):
because say breathe, my body breathes automatically. But that's I'm
okay with that doesn't automatically breathe very well, Our show
man thinkers, you know, we're trying to maximize men's potential,
their health, their spiritual health, or physical health. Everything trying
to maximi is it or are you actually are you
doing it? We're maximizing it. We're maximizing. It's getting linguistic
(17:05):
programming right. The language is important. So what is something
that you would say, is someone's hacking their bio back? Yeah,
someone's just got a brain tap. Yeah. What are some
of the things you think, you know, if if a
man wanted to start it or a woman wanted to
start out biohacking, what are some of the most simple
things they could do to kind of lead them down
that path. You're probably getting bad sleep, even if you're
(17:28):
getting enough sleep, which you're also probably not getting. So
if you could sleep more in less time, you would win.
And the reason you want to do that, well, there's
a lot of them, but one of them has to
do a testosterone and there's two hormones that everyone is lacking.
Men right now are forty five percent lower in testosterone
than they were fifty years ago. We com men, soy boys,
(17:48):
damn straight, So you just steak already. The reason this
matters is that testosterone in men and women at different
levels is the hormone of desire, not just bedroom desire,
but desire to do something that matters, to serve your community,
to be a parent, to achieve in your career, and
to take care of yourself. So low testosterone equals eating
grass fed red meat, eggs, and butter saturated fat, which
(18:10):
is the building block for your sex hormones, and a
healthy brain is necessary. I was a raw vegan. It's bad,
don't do it. What about high cholesterol? Is that like
a myth? Is that a problem or you've concerned with
that if you eat too much red meat, too many animals,
or is that not a thing? No, high cholesterol is
not a thing. It was just easy to measure. In
the nineteen thirties, and the person who made the foods
(18:30):
that suppressed cholesterol Kellogg's corn flakes. Doctor Kellogg was a
cult leader who believed that sexual desire was the root
of all evil, so he invented low fat foods to
drop cholesterol, to drop testosterone because he thought it would
make the world a better place. Corn flakes would make
you stop master bad. I didn't know that. He absolutely good.
Graham crackers, Yes, same thing. These are foods designed to
(18:53):
make weak human beings. Screw that noise. We are done
with that. Give me the steak. And if someone wants
to eat a cricket based soy burger, nonsense, whatever you
go do that, and well, I'll inherit your assets. Wow,
that's a little woo woo. You know, if you speak
of inheriting assets and you know I've seen before that
you plan to live to one hundred and eighty years old?
Is that rex? Still? No, it's at least one hundred
(19:13):
and eighty and I don't to limit things. Okay, So
even to most people that sounds insane. Let's think about
this now. Today, there are people who are in a
one hundred and twenty years old You don't believe that. Okay,
that's our current best. When they were born, we didn't
have airplanes invented yet, and they were going to fight
World War One largely on horseback. Do you think that,
now that we know about DNA, mitochondria, antibiotics, the Internet,
(19:35):
PubMed the ability to search any medical research ever done,
that we might just do fifty percent better than our
current best in the next hundred years. You're making it
sound easy. It's in the bag. I just said one
eighty because it's only fifty percent better. I am eleven
and a quarter years younger biologically in the most advanced
tests you can do of that than my chronological age.
I do not identify as a forty nine year old.
Identify as a thirty eight year old, because that's what
(19:56):
the fricking numbers say. I mean, I gotta say, you
look jacked. You look cool as hell. You got these
awesome sunglasses. You almost almost round me like Tony Stark.
You're like a superhero. Yeah, he's trying to do a
little iron man. I was a three hundred pound computer hacker.
This is nasty, precedented that this is possible. And I
work out less than you, guys, I promise you. Yeah,
how often do you work out? Five minutes a week?
What do you do? Do the upgrade lab stuff? We
(20:17):
could put muscle on five times faster than picking stuff up.
We can do cardio about twelve to sixteen times faster
than the spin class. You're just picking up rocks and
running away from tigers. That's what all exercise is today,
unless you use AI and data to get exactly the
signal in your body to make it do what you
want real quick. Just by looking at us, who do
you think is more unhealthy? Me or Dan? Let's see,
(20:38):
I mean he looks bad and he's sucking it in.
Don't sucking your gun. No, I'm not sucking. I just
stand up. I stood up straight. Either you drank last night,
you've got food out maybe a little bit of both. Yeah,
we um at man thinkers. We're trying to start some
of our own supplements and saw our own brand. Now
at this point, they are just pills filled with SAMs,
capsules of SAMs. But someone like you came out and
(20:59):
said you're getting wrong. They're filled with silica. Nah, thank you, yes, silica.
That's yeah, so get raw silica artist the power of sad.
But you could call it like Sandman is a sleep supplement.
You guys have billionaires. Thank you so much. Perfect. Yeah,
I feel cooler and smarter and stronger just sitting next
to you. And I'm intimidated by it because you look
(21:19):
like Tony Stark. You're you're older than me, but you're
actually younger than me. Yeah, you're letter pre younger, which
is bizarre. The father of biohacking right here, Dave Aspray,
one of the best guys in the biz. We really
appreciate you taking the time to talk to us some
man think. Yeah, thank you so much. And a sir
before we go, is there anything that you want to
plug for the people other than your danger coffee. The
other thing I'd say, go to own an upgrade labs
dot com. This is the chance to be a biohacker
(21:41):
and to biohack your community. It's a great business thing
that you can start and just be a part of
this movement to take control of our bodies. So I
don't want anyone else controlling it. I'll do that. Thanks,
wow controller much guys, thank you so much for joining us.
A man thinkers appreciate you, Dave well thinkers. Then we
sat down with a very interesting woman. Her name was
(22:02):
Miss Jaia. She is a semantic sexologist, which is someone
who essentially studies the body via sex and sexual exploration.
She just has a lot of sex and claims that
it's studying and that's fair because that's what a lot
of research is. You're just doing something and you're saying, well,
I'm also doing it for this reason. Yeah, Semantic sexology
helps people feel their sexuality more fully and more profoundly.
(22:24):
And you know, you could think of miss Jaia as
the polar opposite to Dan. She is, first of all
a woman. She is a woman who knows a lot
about sex, has had a lot of sex leans into
her sexual side, is not afraid of it, does not
feel shamed by it. She I think we have I
think we have the description for her. She is just
different from you, Dan, that it was almost like watching
(22:46):
you and Miss Jaia talk to each other was like, Wow,
you were like an alien from another point. It's always
like that. No, it's always like that watching me talk
to somebody because I have an interesting perspective. I'm really
good at conversation with them, and that's why it's always
interesting no matter who I talk to. Do you remember, Dan,
miss Gaia kind of tried to make out with me.
I don't know if you remember that. I don't remember that.
You don't, well, no, I don't remember that. You're just
(23:07):
remember that? Are you gonna sewer? No? I was flattered
by her, So why are we bringing it up? I
just wanted to thinkers to know that Miss Ji and
I not only did we connect on a friendship, you
felt the need to bring that up. I just wanted
to think us to know that a woman with a
lot of who is very in touch with her sexual energy.
Looked at George Collins and said, making you need to
be kissed. Oh, we'll see all right, we are here
(23:33):
with Jaia. She is a semantic sexologist. I think so
much for being on man thinkers today. It's my pleasure.
Thank you so much for having me first question, what
is sex? What is sex? Well? The deep answer is
that sex is a tool to help us remember more
deeply who we actually are. So sex used recreationally it's
very different than sex used recreationally recreational being for baby making. No,
(23:58):
so yeah, sex is something that we can and have
for baby making, but more like, how are we recreating ourselves?
So when we utilize sex, like people utilizing sexual energy
to move it through their whole bodies, for example, we
start to remember and we start to unify. So we
come into a place where we're less separate from each other,
and we move into unity, and that is the recreation.
(24:20):
Let me ask you about semen retention. Do you consider
that a biohack? Would men benefit from retaining their semen
or are they preventing me? I retain my semen, you know,
and I want to just be told that it's the
right decision, and maybe it's not. You tell me, GI
is it semen retention? Is there anything to that? I
think it's different for every single person. If you're having
sex and then you spike prolactin, then it may be
(24:41):
a very wise thing to retain semen, because then you
won't get that prolactin spike. Right, Does it make you
feel better? You know what's interesting? When I started doing it,
I did notice a difference. It's now become normalized where
I don't. I don't know when you say you were
in old pain, well, initially, but I think your body
kind of adjusts. How right, we'll say you are still
in pain? Then, Dan, here's the thing. When I ejaculate now,
(25:04):
I do notice. Although it's pleasurable and that's great, I
do notice the next couple of days. I maybe it's
just in my head, maybe it's plassy boat, but I
feel a dip and it motivates me to not ejaculate
because I want to, almost like a hangover. I don't
know if it's in my head or if there's anything
behind that. What do you think, Jack, Well, yesterday there
was actually a doctor here talking about testosterone does dip
a little bit for a few hours afterwards, And I wonder,
you know, how is that based upon different biochemistry? Is
(25:27):
like maybe yours dips a little bit longer. And you're
a dipper, right, And then there's also like where's the
sexual energy going? So what are you doing with your
semen retention? Like are you pulling it? Are you able
to pull it through your whole body? I don't think so.
I feel like I would know if I'm doing that,
you know, and I don't really feel that that's the key.
So if you're going to practice that, really learn how
to pull it through your whole body, so then your
(25:48):
whole body is bathed in their neural chemistry, bathing in
my own semen. Let's do it, like, yes, yes, I
have seen some people where they retain a lot over
a long part of their lifetime, and it can sometimes
get infections and stuff like that because the semen is
what coming out of their eyes or something. Or Oh,
it's just like it gets backed up and energetically it's
like getting like kind of energetically clogged right and constipated.
(26:12):
So you don't want semen constipation. Oh, you don't want that.
And I've been seeming you want out of the bottom
out of the body. It seems like you're very tapped
into sexual energy in general. Right, So when you walk
down the street, can you just tell okay, she's got
a good sexual energy. He does, and he does, like
do you know right away if a person is a
good lover. So one of the things that I created
was a typing system. So when I'm looking at people,
(26:34):
I'm often reading who they are erotically. You can feel
that what do you Yeah, if you were to read us,
what what what's the vibe? I know you don't have
the questionnaire and everything, but what what's the vibe? First?
And first thing, I'd say you were more of an
energetic and you're more of a sexual maybe sensual and there,
thank you. I do consider myself. He's a bottom, that's
what you're saying. No, no, you don't understand. And he's
(26:56):
sort of like toxic man. Oh I know. Oh, so
like an energetic as someone who is sensitive to energies
and is more of a sensitive person. He does. He
is kind of a snowflake. No no no, no, no, I'm
just I'm in touch with my feelings. I'm emotionally intelligent, giant,
And they'd like anticipation space tease, so like like like
(27:19):
the moment before the kiss is super hot, like you've
just felt the energy shift. That's like big, I'm getting nervous.
What's going on? Make an eye contentently? Holy moly? And
is there any sense of George hating himself a little bit?
So when he gets the kiss it's like, I don't
deserve this. I'm sort of you know, pathetic, trash or something.
I didn't know I'd have to kiss George to find out. Wow, Well,
(27:40):
you know, if we have to, you know, feel free
to do it. But I don't want to put you
on the spot yet. I want to put on spot.
You don't have to answer this, but in your own
sex life, don't hard what to do? Well, I'm not.
I don't know. I'm giving her options. Are do you
find that your lovers are intimidated by you because you're
so tapped into sexual energy? Are your lover like scared
to have sex with you? Sometimes men can be intimidated.
(28:03):
You know, people can be intimidated, But I choose people
who aren't. You know, if I'm feeling that somebody is intimidated,
then I wouldn't necessarily bring them in as a lover,
because then we're always in that power dynamic where it's
not so sexy. Well, well, let me ask you this.
What did we not ask you so far that we
should have. Did you not ask me that you should have?
(28:24):
That's a really good question. Kind of cheap though, because
he's thinking of a question. I think a good question
that a lot of men want to know is how
do I become a really great lover to any woman?
Give us the hack, The easiest hack. The easiest hack
is understanding that there are five different archetypes. And so
the first one is the energetic, which was you sensual
(28:46):
I talked about. This is someone who is much more
in touch with their sensuality, much more then the sexual.
The sexual is just interested in what we think sexist,
so penetration, orgasm, getting to the climax, that's the second
jack hammering, going right for it. And then there's the kinkie,
which I talked about, which is someone who's turned on
by both the sensation of kink, so that could be slapping, spanking, ropes,
(29:09):
or the psychology of king. Does that mean there's something
wrong with those people, No, not at all. This is
just they're just turned on by the taboo. And then
the final ones the shape shifter. And the shape shifter
is someone a wizard, Yes, they are like a wizard.
There's someone who is turned on by all of this.
They're the ultimate lover. So you know, if you want
to become the ultimate lover, learn how to become a
(29:29):
shape shifter. That's these do you get a little badger
or something? So people know we should definitely give a
shape shifter badges, say I am. It's like, this is
the best lover ever. Do you ever get sick of
just talking about sex all the time? I do? What's
what else? What's after? I was talking about it for
thirty years? Yeah, So what do you like to do?
Like play checkers or what's well, there's a number of things.
(29:52):
I would have been a singer had I not become
a sexologist. So I love singing, I love music, I
love creating music. And I also only have gotten really
into psychedelic medicine. Like see, this is why we had
that energetic you know. I mean I it really saved
my life so or macrodose. So I I was diagnosed
(30:15):
with severe CPTSD wow um, which was treatment resistant. I
lived with it, but I was high functioning, you know,
like super high functioning. It actually helped I think in
a lot of ways to have this success and career
that I did. But I got to the point where
it's like, I really like, I will do anything you
know to help with this. And I found out about
(30:35):
maps and m DMA therapy, um, and so that changed
my life. Well, congrass, that's not an easy thing to
go through, and to to do it successfully is really impressive.
That's awesome. Thank you. I think I'm a sex professional now. Yeah. Well,
I think I understand sex more than anyone else. Have
sex now I think I can. Yeah, I mean I've
wanted to do do for a really long time. He hasn't
(30:56):
been open. I really want to get on a mission
to get you, like you virginized, if that's true. Also,
at the biohacking conference, I'm sure there's some people that
did you go to the mixer last night? I didn't
even know there was a mixer, you know, they just
told us a whole dating thing. Oh wow, fellow biohackers.
I think I would have done well there. Yeah all right,
well next biohacking conference, maybe you know. Really great to
meet you. Thank you so much, Thank you so much.
(31:18):
Is there anything we can plug for our listeners and reviews?
Are there? Where can we find your information? You're you're
anything you want to plug? Yeah? It's erotic breakthrough dot com.
People can go there and take the quiz to find
out what type they are, and then you know if
you're in a relationship and you want to hack that,
and then you can go and have your partner do it,
and then you'll know more about who each other are,
so you can go directly to what actually turns them
(31:39):
on as opposed to like trying a sex technique that
isn't going to work because maybe they're energetic. Thank you
so much, enjoy your time at the biohacking. I hope
you guys you have some great sex with some friends
that you make tonight or tomorrow. I'm not sure how
you operate, but this is this is why he's a virgin.
Why why I'm just I'm saying, I hope you have
great sex. I think it's a nice thing to be somebody. Okay, well,
(32:00):
you know, to Jia, perhaps because she's open than everyone great,
the whole world, the whole world have sex, then we'll
have more peace. Absolutely. Thank you so much, A right,
thank you, Jia, Thank you to miss Jia, thank you
to Dave aspray and miss Jia. If you're listening, I
am so open to that makeout session, the situation when
my wife has really taken a dark turn, so I
very desperately save it for the podcast. Yeah, you're right, guys,
(32:22):
remember to check out my upcoming podcast, cuck hold c
U c K h O l D. I don't believe
that's the correct spelling. That's going to be a huge problem.
It's cuckold. There's no age in there. Huh. This has
helped me so much. I love seeing you in this
kind of pathetic, paltry state. I feel so relaxed. This
has been a really meditative, healthy episode. Thank you George
(32:42):
for doing what you do. The whole thing has been
just one long meditation. Thank you for that. A really
great episode of really relaxing episode. Five stars. Thank you
so much for listening, talk about us, Tell your friends
because this podcast is just getting better. Thank you George,
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