April 20, 2023 • 33 mins
The Thinkers concur that society is not mad enough and encourage listeners to just get upset about something, it honestly doesn't even matter what it is. Then, Dan and George are joined by author and psychologist, Dr. Davina Kotulski, to discuss her experiences leading thousands of past life regression meditations with people from all walks of life.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You're listening to the Man Thinkers podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
A show that forges a new roadmap for the modern
man on how to best live life. For the record,
we are not Nazis. Yeah so yeah, so really good.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Congratulations, thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Just to restate my case is settled, it's done.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I want well, so okay, But a couple of things
I just want to point out because you did just
mention and you know, welcome to the show Thinkers.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Think Sorry, we're discussing some we were just.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Kind of discussing some personal matters.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Come on, come on in, Thinkers.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We want to like yourself at home real quick. So
you said you you said you hired a goon. What
does that mean?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm trying. I mean, that's I probably shouldn't say that
on the podcast, buts okay, it's sure. You know, a fixer,
a big man, more like a muscle guy. Yeah, muscle guy.
And he, you know, just happened to bump into a
few of the women that were part of part of
the lawsuit, okay, and he just talked to them, had
conversations in a way that you can't I certainly couldn't
and you can't in a courtroom because you know, it's
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all this legal ease. And after that talk, their lawyers
said maybe maybe we should settle out of court.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, okay, a couple things. One, yeah, I would be
careful about I'm always very careful. Sure, that's why you're
talking about hiring a goon on our podcast. But I
would say that because you might have more sort of
newer fresher lawsuits coming your way.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh that's whatscribed.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I see. I see.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
So your your strategy is kind of like, hey, as
long as this current one is kind of inflappa and
then we're good.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You're with right.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Look, there's a reason that punting is an option on
every down. Infect's true, that's true, always an option.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And you know, I would say a lot of NFL
teams would be more successful if they punted on first down.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And you know, I took a lot of this from Dershowitz. Yeah,
he was a fantastic guest.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Well that's great, Dan, I'm really glad to hear it.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I did want to say one thing though, because you know,
you are kind of implying that you and Dershwitz are
in the same position. Now here's the thing. Dershowitz was exonerated,
meaning Virginia Guffrey. She just dropped the case. You have
you settled, which is different in some ways of settling.
I know you're not going to jail, and that's great,
but like, in some ways, settling is in a way
an admission of guilt. I mean, you're basically saying, like, hey,
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I did it. Takes some cash.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I would say I didn't do it, and I could
say that, however I want in the media because they
did sign an NDA after that and then take some cash.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Wait, so they signed an NDA. They can't talk about it,
but you can. Yeah, I don't know, man, that seems
like I feel like I haven't heard that before. I
Usually a settlement is like neither party can talk and it.
You know, the public perception is often well, I don't
know what I'm doing here, I don't know exactly what
I signed.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I see, well that's not a smart thing.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But well, but you sign user agreements all the time
for apps, and that's kind of.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
How don't necessarily have as nearly as large of an
impact on my life.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I'm not going to sit again.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
We're talking about we're talking about you're.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Talking about punting.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That's also of punting people in law are not punting enough.
Thus I am punting. Thus I am not guilty right now.
Thus I can talk about it and say however I want,
because I'm a free American.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
That's really interesting thinkers. I mean, you guys should really
kind of take listen. Dan's been through a lot. Okay,
he's been through a lot. His life is a healthscape
in so many ways, and we know that. But this
is one aspect of the healthscape that maybe you know,
the getting put out a little bit here, and how
did he do it?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
He punped it exactly, Just punt it down the line,
and yeah, more flames will start. But that's the nature
of fire.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
That's fire.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Guyer is Man's friend.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
But you know, one of the things I would say, Dan,
and part of the reason why I think you're winning
right now is because you got so fucking upset. You know,
these women are coccusing any of these things, and you
got so pissed off, and you said, I'm going to
do something about this.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I'm going to fight back, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And that's a really good transition because I wanted to
talk to you about this today, Dan, which is I'm
looking around the world today and I know that a
lot of people are like, oh, there's so much commotion,
there's so much turmoil. I'm thinking to myself, are people
mad enough?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
That is a great, big question, because I yes, I
just don't think that people are right now. You know,
you have to realize that if you are living in
a functioning country, you have to be angry. That's the
reason that a laws. Exactly, the only way you're making
laws is if you're mad about something.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I agree with you one hundred percent, Dan, And I
think at the end of the day, if you're mad,
if you're agitated, y it means you're living in life
like what is this idea that everyone wants to be
tranquil and calm and all this? You know, the left
with there? Oh guys, you know, do more yoga, meditate?
What are you talking about? The exactly exactly what you want?
You want my life to just be me sitting on
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the couch watching my dick get smaller. No thanks, guys.
By the way, Dan, I have noticed my penis is
like shrinking.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Why are you bringing this up now?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well, I'm just wondering because you know, we're both kind
of getting up there in age. I mean, we're not old,
but we're not young. I mean, have you noticed just
like that, I'm just saying, like I get out of
the shower and I'm talking flaccid and hard.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
It's like both sides.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I'm not answering. Here's the thing. I'm not asking more
questions and you're answering it.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
But you're telling me you're describing it more because tell
me about your penis, because I'm worried about mine.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I'm sorry, this is something that you're just gonna have
to deal with on your own. This is this is
a George problem, and you know, good luck with it.
But I don't want to well, you know what, I
should get mad about it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I should exactly about the fact that something shrinking in
size and do something about it.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
That's an engaged citizenship, you know, because what we have
now is you have the left. You have the woke mob,
and they're not even a mob, as you said. They're
tranquil and they're saying things, no, we need to people
sometimes no, otherwise they're looting. They're either leaders. Yes, that's
the times when I respect the left the most. Absolutely,
they should be writing more often.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
That's what I'm like.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I don't agree with your politics, but I respect what
you're doing because I agree.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
With what you're doing. And that's why I've always enjoyed
being a conservative, is that conservatives know you have to
be mad all the time in order to be alive,
because if you're not doing that, well, then what are
you doing. You're just thinking about yourself, You're just content
with your own existence. That's no way to be.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I would say, happiness and contentment is the most self centered,
selfish thing you can do.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
The enemy of democracy of a function.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Exactly when I was a liberal back you know, I'll
admit it, back in the day, you know, when I
was a liberal, and now when I am more of
a libertarian, freethinking, critical thinking man thinker. I have noticed
from then till now, all conservatives are so upset. They're
so anxious, they are stressed out. They are afraid. We
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are living Okay, we are, isn't and we have to
deal with that. We're the ones that suffer there, We're
the ones that walk around down this earth going, oh
my god, I'm so pissed off, I'm so afraid, I'm
so anxious. There isn't a moment in my life where
I can take a deep breath and you know what
that means. We are alive. Okay, woks out there, you
sit around just all calm, kumbaya my ass.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I mean, what do you guys?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
LTEs and either avocado toast and that's a great thing
to be mad about. I'm mad about that. I'm mad
that liberals like avocados because avocados they scare me.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
But Dan, did have you tried? Have you tried avocado
toast before?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I don't want to admit it, but yeah, I have.
It's it's it's so good and then it's worth the money,
highly nutritious. It's just totally worth them. It's just like
a nice avocado is a fruit. I don't know if
you know that, but it's a free I didn't know that.
That's so impressive.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, and it's got it has good healthy fats and
it's just the mix set with on a nice piece
of toast. You know, toast doesn't get talked about enough, you.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Know, because everyone thinks it's so basic. But when there's
a there is such a thing as good toast, yes,
and not so good toast. And when you have good toast,
it is what an experience.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
A fresh sour dough bread unbelievable. But see, this is
the problem though, is that you got liberals who are saying, oh, oh,
let's just mash up an avocado and put some salt
flakes on that. Right, But you have to remember what
it's like for me and most of the country, which is,
I don't know what that is. I didn't know that
food could do that. I'm scared, and you telling me
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to pay money for this makes me want to kill
you exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
This is the interesting game because you bring up the
liberals and their avocado toast in some ways give you your
killer instinct. There's this interesting dance happening, yes, where in
some ways you right, we need the avocado toast in
order to have that killer instinct, in order to want
to be murderers, because wanting to be a killer gives
us an edge in life and gives us energy. Being
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willing to kill, a will to kill, And I mean,
anger is the best fuel in the world. It's almost
better than crude It's better than crude oil. Is anger,
you know, and I love crude oil.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
You're a crude man.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I'm a crude man. I believe in loud cars. I
can't stand how do you have an electric pickup truck.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You know, if an electric truck goes down the street,
whether it's hauling something or not, I don't hear it.
It doesn't disrupt my day. Well, guess what that means.
I'm not pissed off. Where if I'm walking down the
street and there's some loud f one fifty with a
diesel engine or whatever the hell, and I'm like, whoa, whoa,
what the fuck is that? I was trying to enjoy
my coffee. Now I'm agitated. Now I'm upset, and guess
what boom on? That is fuel for the rest of
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the day.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Absolutely, I'm going straight to the public library seeing what
books they have that I don't like. They are banning
drag shows, and what makes me mad about that is
that it's confusing it. And now I'm even angrier and
I support that law, but it's confusing because hey, can
you watch Missus Doubtfire?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Now, if they're a ban in Missus Doutfire, weren't a
lot of trouble, angry trouble. You know, Dan, I did
want to because you mentioned libraries again, and I just
did want to bring up because I checked with the
West Hollywood Library out here and one of the librarians
told me that you've been going there like on a
daily basis and just like taking a stack of books,
setting up by a desk, and then sleeping all day
and then leaving when it's closing time. And I was
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just thinking, why would someone are you doing that? And
why would you Are you trying to like pretend like
you're out living a life, but really you're just sleeping
at the library, Like what's going on there?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well, you know, I don't. I wouldn't say every day.
That's not like an everyday kind of thing, but you
know what I'm trying to do. For one, let's just
for one, let's just say this. Libraries have air conditioning,
which is fantastical, and they have great WiFi, and they
have bathrooms. So okay, have I been taking advantage of that?
Because I remember, conservatives were smart. We know how to
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take advantage of the systems in place, and so it
is my right as an American citizen to take advantage
of everything that's available to me, and so I'm doing that.
That's the first thing. Secondly, it's comfortable. So yeah, if
that's if that, if it provides me with a level
of comfort, you could people could be mad about that.
I hope that people get mad about that and they say,
it's wondering. This guy shouldn't be able to just take
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a big nap in here. We should close these things down.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Okay, So there's sort of a long you're kind of
playing there. Seems very convoluted and confusing, and that's.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
What should be good. I hope it's making you upset.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Well, here's what's making me upset is that I'm starting
to think now that because what you're describing, I'm one,
you know, air emissioning bathrooms. Yeah, that's great, but you
know you could have that in a home. Did you
lose your home in the settlement? Are you homeless now? Dan?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
First of all, well, I would say a lot of
these people like to be called houseless now, and that
upsets me because all they really.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Need to do is get a job McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
You could you kind of amazing place you could rent
if you have a job at McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yes, you could, and you could, and you get the
food at McDonald's and you can network.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
But you're kind of deflecting from the original question, which
is are you homeless?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But does that even matter? What does that have to
do with the laws in this country. Well, you are
too many people.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I would be upset for you, and that would give
me fuel for the rest of my week.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
So then I kind of hope you say yes.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Use that is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Great, So I'm going to take it as I kind
of you know, the thinker.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
You take it out right, need to take it, you'd
take it out, you need to take it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
And that's fair.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
That is absolutely fair, because not everything needs to be answered.
That's one of the things that makes everyone so mad.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Right exactly, And that I see, And that's a good
point Dan, that we should really hone in on here
is anger equals ambition? Okay, the most phil Jengis Khan.
He conquered the world because he was so.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Freaking pissed because he wasn't getting enough stuff or he
wasn't having enough sex with enough women.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Don't they say that like every single person is related
to Genghis Khan or something.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, yeah, there's like a mutation that they could trace
you back to. That's him basically in the DNA, and
that and science science is thus proving the angrier you are,
the more that you will accomplish get out there and
look at the stuff that's making you angry instead of
like what you said, how can I improve myself? No, no, no,
no no no.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Introspection is the death of society.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, do you know what what's the quickest way to
improve something. It's not by fixing it, it's by making
it worse for someone else.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Wow, that's right, great point out.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
And that's what people need to realize, is that my
life is better if I know someone else's life is worse.
And I didn't even have to do anything. All I
had to do was make it shittier for them.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Right exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I mean think about happiness like this. Everyone's competing, yes,
for happiness, for success. We're all climbing the same mountain here,
and everyone thinks, oh, I gotta get higher on the mountain. No,
you don't just cut everybody's rope that's next to you,
kick dead them down, all down, and then you're highest
on the mountain.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You want to kind of strap yourself to a bigger
person who's hopefully dead. They're the one anchoring you, guys.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Anchor yourself to a dead man. We've kind of been
screaming this all season long. Anchor yourself to a dead guy.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
That's the key to happiness, to quote.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Unquote happiness exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Wow, this is really good stuff, Dan, I gotta say,
I didn't think we'd come to such great conclusions and
such practical conclusions like a get pissed off anchor yourself
to a dead man. You're going to have a better
life and society's going to be better. Yeah, speaking of
contentness and happiness, let's talk about today's episode, Dan, because
today we have a guest who is I think very
content and that kisses me off that it was great
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to have her. I gotta say afterwards, I was a
bit agitated. Doctor Devina Kotowski is here to talk to
us about past life regressions, and I thought this conversation
Dan was really interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
It was, and you know, of course, I'm coming at
it from a very skeptical angle. I don't believe in
any of this. I think it's nonsense. It's lies, lies
from the left right.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
And I think we kind of learned, and you'll see
thinkers in the interview that we learned that Dan, essentially
his past lives were either non existent because he's such
a new soul, that's why he doesn't know anything and that's.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Why it's so fresh. That's why people aren't ready for me,
because I am a new There's a great first of all,
I hate Hollywood, you know that. But there's a great
movie that came out a couple of years ago called
Soul from Pixar, and it's all about these like little
babies that you know when they're ready to be born.
It's like the new little personality. And I feel like
I am one of those little blue spirit babies.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Because you love children's movies, right you always. I feel
like you see every Disney movie, every Pixar movie.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Because a child's movie it has to appeal to all ages.
You have to be able to still tell a story,
still be entertaining, still be dramatic, but for both parents
and children, and to be.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Able to just a huge challenge. It's just a really
huge challenge.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I mean, these writers.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Pixar movies are awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
And you know, this is a great segue into ads, guys,
because that's what you're going to have to listen to.
We just hit an ad for Pixar. You know, we
hate Hollywood, but we love Pixar. You're going to get
some ads coming up in a second that are not
for products that are as cool or for companies that
are a school as Pixar.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Would Pixar even do an ad? Does Pixar do that?
Pixarick out Pixar.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Okay, anyway, guys, ads coming up then, Doctor Divina Katolsky
Past life regression stick around. Doctor Divina Katolski is an author, speaker, psychologist,
and life coach who specializes in past life regression mediation.
Her last book, The mana Paradigm Shift, seamlessly connects cutting
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edge psychology and ancient spiritual wisdom to help the reader
create a life of freedom and fulfillment. Doctor Kotolski, thank
you so much for being on Man Thinkers.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
It's my pleasure.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
George, thanks for having me and I actually do past
life meditation regression, not past life mediation. That would be
a little more challenging.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yes, and you know what, I'm glad you clarified because
Dan and I are used to mediation and George.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Kind of messed that up as just he's unprofessional and
usually doesn't know what he's talking about. So that was
a great example of that. Thank you for pointing that out.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Doctor.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
My pleasure, Well, I wouldn't necessarily agree with that.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Too, probably move on and we have a guest link.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
It's just you're actually I'm trying to move on, and
then you keep kind of stopping us from moving on.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
But that's I'm not talking at doctor.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I think for most of our thinkers and our listeners
out there, they might not be super familiar with exactly
what a past life regression is. So can you talk
a little bit about what it is that you do
when you perform these and how what that process looks like.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Yeah, so a past life regression is it's a form
of hypnotherapy, relaxation and focused attention. So hypnosis itself is
really very heightened focus in a relaxed state. So I
guide people through a relaxation process, take them back in
time to their childhood and then back on to a
past life, and then we explore some important key memories
in a past life. Most people go back to something
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like an accident that happened, or the birth of a child,
their marriage, some key moment in their life. And then
I also guide them through the death process. I have
them go back to the last day of their life
and really put them in that memory. They can either
float above it or they can experience it, and I
ask them questions about like do they have any pain,
who's with them at their bedside?
Speaker 5 (15:56):
What do they recall?
Speaker 6 (15:57):
And then they go through the death process, and then
they made up in a garden with their spirit guide
and look for what is the lesson they needed to
learn then and how is it relevant to their life now.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
So you're almost that you're essentially killing somebody.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Yeah, they're going through the death process, so I'm not
killing them, but I'm taking them back and moving through
the process of death where they realize that even though
their body has died in that lifetime, their consciousness or
their soul lives on now.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Is this a horrifying experience for people? I mean, to
be experiencing a past death within a past life seems
like it could be scary.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
For some people. It can be scary for many people.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
They are experiencing a sense of peace and completeness, so
they might get a sense of some pain, but they
also are given the opportunity to just kind of be
above it a bit, and so they can report back
without really going into all of the physical sensations. But
every once in a while, somebody will have a memory
and it will be uncomfortable, and I'll move them out
of that quickly so that they're not suffering.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Now, Doctor, normally I would not believe in any of this,
but it's very impressive to me that you're able to
get somebody into that relaxed state. Are you able then,
just out of curiosity to take advantage of them before
you go away? Let's go over your will, their last
will and testament in this past life. Throw me in there.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Maybe that would be fascinating, great question, I think, because
of course, I think because they have they're just re
experiencing the past life. They're actually not going back in
time and changing things like Michael J.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Foss in future. I haven't figured that one out yet, but.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
That should because that would really help the business.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
It sounds for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I apologize. Doctor Dan's just kind of an idiot and
he doesn't realize that we're not talking about time travel
right now, we're talking about it.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I think there's a question a lot of thinkers. I'm
thinking about where where's the business at and here? And
how are you able to sustain a lifestyle because you're
so encouraging of others.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
This is a lesson that Dan's soul continues to refuse
to learn that life isn't just about business deals, it's
about growing spiritually.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Why don't we let the guests answer that is life
a series of business deals?
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Well, great question. I'm going to go back and you
answer the previous question.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Of course.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
So the previous question is are people in a state
where they can be easily manipulated? So I'd let them
know that they're going to go through a process of relaxation.
They never cluck like a chicken, they never lose consciousness,
they don't go under, it's not like that. They become very,
very relaxed and focused. So they can go back to
a childhood memory, for example, which is we always start there,
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and then we'll go back to the womb, and they'll
be able to remember things from being in the womb,
conversations fights their parents were having outside of the womb,
and it's fascinating. It blows my mind every time. And
I never tell people what their past lives were. I
don't ask any leading questions. I just asked them to
describe for me what they're seeing.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
That's fascinating stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Doctor, And I have to say, as someone who is skeptical,
I might be more inclined to check it out if
I knew that I was going to be hypnotized and
would cluck like a chicken. I think if someone could
get me to do that, then they've got some real
power of the mind.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Quit.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I have a question for you, doctor. Have you ever
regressed someone and you know, you relax, you see a door,
You open the door, and here you are, and what
do you see? And they're just like darkness, black, nothing?
Because I think that would happen to Dan. Has anyone
ever just gone back and it's like, oh, don't say anything,
something happened.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Well, I'm not going so don't put me into it.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Well you will if you click like a chicken. Anyway,
let's let the doctor doctor.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
There are times when I'm taking someone through the regression
and they do say things like I don't say anything,
I just see black. One of the things I tell
people when they do it is whatever is for your
highest good to see is what comes up. And so
sometimes people will end up actually having more childhood memories
with unresolved issues that are present for them, and so
we'll focus on that. But there are occasions where you
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know someone doesn't regress and I would say that's probably
about maybe two to three, two to five percent of
the population where they just get really relaxed, but they're
not able to see anything. I've definitely had people share
with me that they're afraid to know who they were
in a past life because they're convinced that they've done
something very wrong. They had lives where they weren't proud
of what they did, you know, German soldiers, Wow, got
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caught up Nazis and feel very bad about what happened. Again,
these experiences are fascinating to me as well. I don't
have all the answers, but I'm really interested in it
and love what I do.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
And do you find that there is a through line
with each person's past lives where there is a specific
lesson that they keep on trying to be taught via
their lives that they're maybe having trouble Like, is there
a thing that people take with them from life to life,
a specific lesson or a specific point of growth.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Absolutely, so some of the things that might come up
as somebody's gotten their heartbroken in a previous lifetime and
so they don't trust anyone in this lifetime and so
they're not attaching they're blowing up their relationships for whatever reason.
Other people have felt disillusioned for some reasons, they've taken
their lives. I've had several people in their past life
they committed suicide, and so it was like, Okay, how
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do you deal with disappointment and depression and make different
choices in this lifetime?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Is there anybody that you ever talked to that they're
saying their past life and you're like, Okay, you're just
dirking my chain. This definitely didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Nope, I haven't had that.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
There's going on and on. You're like, that's too many details.
You can't possibly know that. Get out of my office.
Nothing like that.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Nope.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Dan gets told to get out of doctors' offices, like
very consistently.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I like to keep doctors on their toes. So they're
telling me to do one thing. I kind of you
know Isaig when they want me to zach And that's that's.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Incredibly unhealthy person both physically.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Very healthy actually, because I don't have any charts. So
if I don't have any charts, there can't be anything
wrong with me.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Well maybe Dan, if you and I did a past
life aggression, maybe you would be the first.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
That would be great to have on my business card.
You know that I'm the only person to get kicked
out of a past life regression meditation.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You know, I've done past life aggressions before, and Dan's
soul always is there and he's always making my life
in my past lives worse. Do you find that that's
common in past life aggressions that you meditations that you perform,
Like do you see people recognize, Oh, that's that's my mom,
but she's not my mom in this life, she's my
sister or something like that?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Is that very common?
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Yeah? Definitely.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
There have been experiences where people will go back and
they'll recognize that their daughter in past life is their
mother in this life time, which explains some of it,
especially if they have a narcissistic parent. Oh of course,
you know I was taking care of you in this lifetime.
I'm taking care of you again in this next lifetime.
I've had people who were lovers and past lives and
now they're good friends in this lifetime. Whatever the combinations
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that happens frequently.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
How can I separate myself from this man? What is
my soul or what does his soul need to learn?
So we can finally grow apart from each other.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
My soul has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
So I can't speak to how for you to resolve
this together, but I can say one thing that might
be suggested is that you do some cord cutting, and
you do some things like you say a statement like
whatever vows I've made to Dan and this or previous lifetimes,
I now break those vows.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Because George, we talked about how this isn't time travel,
but George has told me that he has gone back.
He will bring a gun to a past life regression
and he wants to hunt me, sort of like the Terminator.
And it hasn't worked. And I'm telling you it doesn't
even sound healthy to me.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
I love that idea as a movie script.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
You act to write that we will and I Dan
is a failed Hollywood writer, not in a past life,
in this life, well in this life right because he
thinks it's because you know, Hollywood doesn't get his ideas.
But really, doctor, he's just they don't writer. I've read
his scripts. They're like, they don't make any sense, They're boring.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Does that do Christopher Nolan movies make any sense? I
don't think making sense is not a prerequisitition.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Rock Okay, they if they don't make sense, well sometimes
they don't, but they're awesome.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Doctor.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Where do you fall on Christopher nolan movies?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Are you pro or con I'm pro Christopher Nolan?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Hell yeah, thank you, because I write at the top
of every script this movie rocks, and then it's up
to the reader to see how it rocks. If they
don't get it, that's on them. It should be on them. Doctor.
Have you ever seen the movie The Matrix?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yes, fantastic.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
It's the best, the best movie ever made. And but
you know in the in the Matrix, when they go
into the matrix, they get jacked in and when they
get punched, you know, they get hit.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You know when they get Yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I was curious when people are in their past lives,
let's say they're doing some kind of matrix kung fu.
Do they get hit and hurt? And if they get
punched really hard, does blood kind of drip down their mouth?
Speaker 6 (24:05):
And they have never seen anyone bleed? But I have
seen them shake. I have seen them like you know,
writhe around in pain. It's fascinating to watch that. But yeah,
I haven't seen anyone bleed.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
When I listen to my heart to live my authentic life,
I just want people to do exactly what I want
them to do. But I'm told I'm wrong or intolerant
for that. But aren't I just listening to my heart?
Speaker 5 (24:33):
In that case, sounds like you're listening to your ego.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Is that not the same?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Thank you doctor, definitely not.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
There's the ego and the soul, and the soul and
the heart are connected. So it sounds like you're listening
to your ego by wanting people to do things your way.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Well, how would I separate the heart and the ego?
I feel like they're one thing. Or my heart is
encased in a nice, fatty layer of my ego.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
I think the way to proceed is just for you
to be yourself and to follow your heart's desire unless
it hurts.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Somebody's to be a tough one. Maybe I'm trying to
think out because the ego is so strong. I love
my ego. When you say about this of this is
hard on your heart, it's hard on your body, George
and I are able to use that as bragging points
for why you should listen to man thinkers. I mean
you say, hey, these guys are hard on their heart,
but they're not going to stop what they're doing. They're
not going to stop their anger and their righteous indignation
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just for their heart because we're out here for the
thinkers of the world, So we're sacrificing ourselves. We're basically
the new Jesus, full stop, no question there.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Listen, we're free thinkers here.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
You know, I'm not trying to any former presidents, but
I'll tell you, one hundred years from now, some unlucky
soul is going to have to is going to do
a past life regression and they're going to realize they
were Donald Trump. And it's going to be a tough
pill to swallow. Even if you're pro Donald Trump, I
still think that's a tough pill to see.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Him to have been him. Good luck to that future soul.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
As soon as Donald Trump dies, whenever that may be.
And I don't think he's going to die for a
long time because he's by healthy and anger that once
he dies, is his his life open? Is it open
season to say, hey, I was I was in there,
he was me.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, how does it take to read?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:06):
What's the fascinating question?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Thank you again?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Yeah, yeah, I have no idea how long it takes.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
I did hear once and again this was just I
don't know if I read this someplace or where I
read this someplace that when someone horrible or let's say powerful, dies,
that it's not the time you want to have a baby,
because that soul can fresh yeah, right into it.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
So there's another antiprise situation.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
But my understanding is that a soul can come back
as soon as it wants to. So you can go
and rest and learn some more lessons or if you
want to reincarnate, you can do it when you're ready.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Where did it rest? Where do we go?
Speaker 6 (26:44):
Go?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Ahead?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Because my question was better, Uh no, I'll go Where
do we go? When you say rest? Like, do you
have any insight? Do you see or do you hear?
Rather your clients and patients they say, oh, I'm in
this cosmic benevolent juices, and I'm just like, where where's
the resting phase where everyone going?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (27:01):
So with my clients and with my process, sometimes people
will go to a very kind of dark place where
they felt at peace and there's relaxing music, kind of vibrations,
I should say, and some of them kind of talk
about just being at peace.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And how did this all, how did this all come
to you, How did this present itself to you? Where
did this all come from?
Speaker 6 (27:22):
So when I was young, I had memories of a
past life and was trying to share that with my parents,
and I think they.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Thought it was really weird.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Good parenting, yeah, exactly. But I always had a sense
that this wasn't my first lifetime and kind of went
through life with that. And then when I started working
as a therapist, I would notice different issues with people
that they would seem really hung up on certain relationships
that kind of like you guys, where there was a
lot of animosity and they kept trying to quit each
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other but couldn't quit each other, and it really felt
like there was something more there, and so I just
would make notes of that. And then well, then I
had my own experience of meeting somebody that I absolutely
knew that I knew them in a past life.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
And when that happened, it gave me permission, Like it
just was. It was an uncanny experience.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
I won't go into the details, but it gave me
permission to really invest in reading more and studying more
about past life and life between lives and had heard
about doctor Brian Weiss and his book Many Masters, Many
Lives for years. Finally picked it up, really had a
hull moment with it, and then decided to go do
some training with him. When you have a past life
progression and you bring back a piece of yourself, there's
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a sense of wholeness, so you're bringing back more of
yourself that you've sort of forgotten about. I had another
one that was fascinating where the guy had died because
he had had this is wild. He had a pet pterodactyl,
or he had befriended a pterodactyl, and when the pterodactyl
was small, it was fine and they you know, connected
and whatever, and then the pterodactyl ate him.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Well, well you can't, it's too I would say that.
I would suggest that to him right away, say, hey,
you can't tame a pterodactyl.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
No wait a minute, ar art waits our thought pterodactyls
were dinosaurs.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
This guy was, Yeah, this was back to caveman times.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
I've had a few people in caveman time.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Uh huh, yeah, wild caveman and dinosaurs hanging out.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Listen, that's a great segue. Dan to one of my
last questions, doctor, which is, you know, you seem like
a very wise person who has you know, lived a
very wise life in this time lifetime and maybe past.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Lifetimes as well.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
And I'm interested in starting my own cult, doctor, and
I think you would be an amazing selling point if
I said, hey, come out of the woods with me
and my friends. Doctor Divine Katolski is going to give
you a past life regression and maybe you and I
can just kind of make sure that the regression is
a fun one. You know, maybe they were a king
or a queen or whatever. And I think that would
suck people right in. And then on the back end,
I give you five ten percent of whatever we make
on the cult. I mean, what do you say, doctor,
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I think we should go into business together.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Well, thank you for the invitation, George.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
It's always nice when somebody offers you an entrepreneurial opportunity.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Nice, but I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Have to pass you got it? Do we? It was
our pleasure and our joy. We learned so much about
past life edisions. We learned, or rather re learned that
Dan is a dark, cold heart and there's probably no
hope for him and is there anything else you'd like
to plug or any other last thoughts you have, doctor, Yeah, if.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
People want to do a past life regression, definitely contact
me and Dan. I'd like to offer you a past
life regression for free if you're if you want to participate.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I think I have to. I will do that. Or wait,
if I don't take the past life regression, would you
give me the equivalent money?
Speaker 5 (30:11):
I love that question. Again, you think on it. I'm
going to have to decline that.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Okay, gift card, would think about it. Yeah, gift card
or any anything to a restaurant target maybe something target
or something like that. But okay, something to consider. Thank you, doctor,
You're welcome.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Thank you both.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
What an interesting person. Absolutely, let's just say that, right something.
We could a lot of interesting things to say. I
think she's a sage.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
What I liked about her is that she had some
really good answers and when she didn't have the answer,
she she wasn't afraid to admit that she had no idea.
And I think that is that's that's it, And I
think that's fair because she's working with some unknown things.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
And I wonder if we is there a lesson there
for us do we ever maybe we should Nah, I
think we just it's different because there aren't we don't
talk about things that right, because we don't talk about that.
Don't know, we don't know anything about we always have
the answer, and so yeah, you know, but.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
She may have even said that, hey, this works for me,
but you guys, obviously you should just keep talking and
don't ever admit that you don't know something. I think
she said that I can't really remember, you know, a
little bit disappointing to find out that people, if they're
getting punched in their past lives, they all kind of
knock around like Neo did. But maybe we could change that,
because what if we time travel back to the first
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past life guy and state that as like a rule.
You know, so you're like doctor Freud. Wait, first past,
like doctor doctor Sigmund Freud, and you're you know, you
travel back in your past life. You're like, hey, doctor Divina,
send me back to Freud. You're Freud now.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
You think doctor Freud was the first human being would.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Say that's what's going on. Just follow me here. Doctor
Divina blasted us to doctor Freud. She sends you back.
You're doctor Freud now, and you say, hey, patient, Well it.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Doesn't work like that. You can't just request to be people.
But you're hey, we said we weren't going to be
able to fly.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Now we've got commercial flights, thousands of them a day,
so you want you don't have to repeat it back.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Arbitrary, big doctor stegmen Freud, The first human being ever
to have lived, essentially is what you're saying, because otherwise,
the first one to do a regression, the first past
life guy is just the first hue the person past
lives are real what they are. I don't think you
understand do you understand what the what we're talking about
in that conversation?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Why does it matter whether I understand it? What I don't.
We've we've already gone over this in our conversation with
doctor Divina Katolski is that it doesn't. When I'm talking,
I have no idea what I'm saying. But what's important
is that I am talking, and I'm mad.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I don't think she made any of those points, and
we really appreciate her time. Guys, check out her book
The Man a Paradigm Shift and get get regressed.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Guys, regress regressed.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
If our show is about anything it's about regressing regrets
a little bit. It is about your going then backwards. Okay,
when you're finished listening to an episode of Man Thinkers,
I want your life to be worse off because if
your life it's worse off, you're going to be upset.
And if you're upset, you're gonna have fuel to get
you through the day.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
That's what we learned.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Today, That's what we did. I'm pretty sure that's what
the doctor told us. Really enter saying yes, schedule something
with her, schedule anything, and you know what, you were
Nazi in a past life. Sorry to hear it, but
stay mad about.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
And remember guys, whether you're in a past life or
you're in this life, keep thinking.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Always be thinking.
You're listening to the Man Thinkers podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
A show that forges a new roadmap for the modern
man on how to best live life. For the record,
we are not Nazis. Yeah so yeah, so really good.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Congratulations, thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Just to restate my case is settled, it's done.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I want well, so okay, But a couple of things
I just want to point out because you did just
mention and you know, welcome to the show Thinkers.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Think Sorry, we're discussing some we were just.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Kind of discussing some personal matters.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Come on, come on in, Thinkers.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We want to like yourself at home real quick. So
you said you you said you hired a goon. What
does that mean?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm trying. I mean, that's I probably shouldn't say that
on the podcast, buts okay, it's sure. You know, a fixer,
a big man, more like a muscle guy. Yeah, muscle guy.
And he, you know, just happened to bump into a
few of the women that were part of part of
the lawsuit, okay, and he just talked to them, had
conversations in a way that you can't I certainly couldn't
and you can't in a courtroom because you know, it's
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all this legal ease. And after that talk, their lawyers
said maybe maybe we should settle out of court.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, okay, a couple things. One, yeah, I would be
careful about I'm always very careful. Sure, that's why you're
talking about hiring a goon on our podcast. But I
would say that because you might have more sort of
newer fresher lawsuits coming your way.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh that's whatscribed.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I see. I see.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
So your your strategy is kind of like, hey, as
long as this current one is kind of inflappa and
then we're good.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You're with right.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Look, there's a reason that punting is an option on
every down. Infect's true, that's true, always an option.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And you know, I would say a lot of NFL
teams would be more successful if they punted on first down.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And you know, I took a lot of this from Dershowitz. Yeah,
he was a fantastic guest.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Well that's great, Dan, I'm really glad to hear it.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I did want to say one thing though, because you know,
you are kind of implying that you and Dershwitz are
in the same position. Now here's the thing. Dershowitz was exonerated,
meaning Virginia Guffrey. She just dropped the case. You have
you settled, which is different in some ways of settling.
I know you're not going to jail, and that's great,
but like, in some ways, settling is in a way
an admission of guilt. I mean, you're basically saying, like, hey,
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I did it. Takes some cash.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I would say I didn't do it, and I could
say that, however I want in the media because they
did sign an NDA after that and then take some cash.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Wait, so they signed an NDA. They can't talk about it,
but you can. Yeah, I don't know, man, that seems
like I feel like I haven't heard that before. I
Usually a settlement is like neither party can talk and it.
You know, the public perception is often well, I don't
know what I'm doing here, I don't know exactly what
I signed.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I see, well that's not a smart thing.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But well, but you sign user agreements all the time
for apps, and that's kind of.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
How don't necessarily have as nearly as large of an
impact on my life.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I'm not going to sit again.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
We're talking about we're talking about you're.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Talking about punting.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That's also of punting people in law are not punting enough.
Thus I am punting. Thus I am not guilty right now.
Thus I can talk about it and say however I want,
because I'm a free American.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
That's really interesting thinkers. I mean, you guys should really
kind of take listen. Dan's been through a lot. Okay,
he's been through a lot. His life is a healthscape
in so many ways, and we know that. But this
is one aspect of the healthscape that maybe you know,
the getting put out a little bit here, and how
did he do it?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
He punped it exactly, Just punt it down the line,
and yeah, more flames will start. But that's the nature
of fire.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
That's fire.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Guyer is Man's friend.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
But you know, one of the things I would say, Dan,
and part of the reason why I think you're winning
right now is because you got so fucking upset. You know,
these women are coccusing any of these things, and you
got so pissed off, and you said, I'm going to
do something about this.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I'm going to fight back, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And that's a really good transition because I wanted to
talk to you about this today, Dan, which is I'm
looking around the world today and I know that a
lot of people are like, oh, there's so much commotion,
there's so much turmoil. I'm thinking to myself, are people
mad enough?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
That is a great, big question, because I yes, I
just don't think that people are right now. You know,
you have to realize that if you are living in
a functioning country, you have to be angry. That's the
reason that a laws. Exactly, the only way you're making
laws is if you're mad about something.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I agree with you one hundred percent, Dan, And I
think at the end of the day, if you're mad,
if you're agitated, y it means you're living in life
like what is this idea that everyone wants to be
tranquil and calm and all this? You know, the left
with there? Oh guys, you know, do more yoga, meditate?
What are you talking about? The exactly exactly what you want?
You want my life to just be me sitting on
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the couch watching my dick get smaller. No thanks, guys.
By the way, Dan, I have noticed my penis is
like shrinking.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Why are you bringing this up now?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well, I'm just wondering because you know, we're both kind
of getting up there in age. I mean, we're not old,
but we're not young. I mean, have you noticed just
like that, I'm just saying, like I get out of
the shower and I'm talking flaccid and hard.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
It's like both sides.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I'm not answering. Here's the thing. I'm not asking more
questions and you're answering it.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
But you're telling me you're describing it more because tell
me about your penis, because I'm worried about mine.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I'm sorry, this is something that you're just gonna have
to deal with on your own. This is this is
a George problem, and you know, good luck with it.
But I don't want to well, you know what, I
should get mad about it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I should exactly about the fact that something shrinking in
size and do something about it.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
That's an engaged citizenship, you know, because what we have
now is you have the left. You have the woke mob,
and they're not even a mob, as you said. They're
tranquil and they're saying things, no, we need to people
sometimes no, otherwise they're looting. They're either leaders. Yes, that's
the times when I respect the left the most. Absolutely,
they should be writing more often.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
That's what I'm like.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I don't agree with your politics, but I respect what
you're doing because I agree.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
With what you're doing. And that's why I've always enjoyed
being a conservative, is that conservatives know you have to
be mad all the time in order to be alive,
because if you're not doing that, well, then what are
you doing. You're just thinking about yourself, You're just content
with your own existence. That's no way to be.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I would say, happiness and contentment is the most self centered,
selfish thing you can do.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
The enemy of democracy of a function.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Exactly when I was a liberal back you know, I'll
admit it, back in the day, you know, when I
was a liberal, and now when I am more of
a libertarian, freethinking, critical thinking man thinker. I have noticed
from then till now, all conservatives are so upset. They're
so anxious, they are stressed out. They are afraid. We
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are living Okay, we are, isn't and we have to
deal with that. We're the ones that suffer there, We're
the ones that walk around down this earth going, oh
my god, I'm so pissed off, I'm so afraid, I'm
so anxious. There isn't a moment in my life where
I can take a deep breath and you know what
that means. We are alive. Okay, woks out there, you
sit around just all calm, kumbaya my ass.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I mean, what do you guys?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
LTEs and either avocado toast and that's a great thing
to be mad about. I'm mad about that. I'm mad
that liberals like avocados because avocados they scare me.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
But Dan, did have you tried? Have you tried avocado
toast before?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I don't want to admit it, but yeah, I have.
It's it's it's so good and then it's worth the money,
highly nutritious. It's just totally worth them. It's just like
a nice avocado is a fruit. I don't know if
you know that, but it's a free I didn't know that.
That's so impressive.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, and it's got it has good healthy fats and
it's just the mix set with on a nice piece
of toast. You know, toast doesn't get talked about enough, you.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Know, because everyone thinks it's so basic. But when there's
a there is such a thing as good toast, yes,
and not so good toast. And when you have good toast,
it is what an experience.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
A fresh sour dough bread unbelievable. But see, this is
the problem though, is that you got liberals who are saying, oh, oh,
let's just mash up an avocado and put some salt
flakes on that. Right, But you have to remember what
it's like for me and most of the country, which is,
I don't know what that is. I didn't know that
food could do that. I'm scared, and you telling me
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to pay money for this makes me want to kill
you exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
This is the interesting game because you bring up the
liberals and their avocado toast in some ways give you your
killer instinct. There's this interesting dance happening, yes, where in
some ways you right, we need the avocado toast in
order to have that killer instinct, in order to want
to be murderers, because wanting to be a killer gives
us an edge in life and gives us energy. Being
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willing to kill, a will to kill, And I mean,
anger is the best fuel in the world. It's almost
better than crude It's better than crude oil. Is anger,
you know, and I love crude oil.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
You're a crude man.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I'm a crude man. I believe in loud cars. I
can't stand how do you have an electric pickup truck.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You know, if an electric truck goes down the street,
whether it's hauling something or not, I don't hear it.
It doesn't disrupt my day. Well, guess what that means.
I'm not pissed off. Where if I'm walking down the
street and there's some loud f one fifty with a
diesel engine or whatever the hell, and I'm like, whoa, whoa,
what the fuck is that? I was trying to enjoy
my coffee. Now I'm agitated. Now I'm upset, and guess
what boom on? That is fuel for the rest of
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the day.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Absolutely, I'm going straight to the public library seeing what
books they have that I don't like. They are banning
drag shows, and what makes me mad about that is
that it's confusing it. And now I'm even angrier and
I support that law, but it's confusing because hey, can
you watch Missus Doubtfire?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Now, if they're a ban in Missus Doutfire, weren't a
lot of trouble, angry trouble. You know, Dan, I did
want to because you mentioned libraries again, and I just
did want to bring up because I checked with the
West Hollywood Library out here and one of the librarians
told me that you've been going there like on a
daily basis and just like taking a stack of books,
setting up by a desk, and then sleeping all day
and then leaving when it's closing time. And I was
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just thinking, why would someone are you doing that? And
why would you Are you trying to like pretend like
you're out living a life, but really you're just sleeping
at the library, Like what's going on there?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well, you know, I don't. I wouldn't say every day.
That's not like an everyday kind of thing, but you
know what I'm trying to do. For one, let's just
for one, let's just say this. Libraries have air conditioning,
which is fantastical, and they have great WiFi, and they
have bathrooms. So okay, have I been taking advantage of that?
Because I remember, conservatives were smart. We know how to
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take advantage of the systems in place, and so it
is my right as an American citizen to take advantage
of everything that's available to me, and so I'm doing that.
That's the first thing. Secondly, it's comfortable. So yeah, if
that's if that, if it provides me with a level
of comfort, you could people could be mad about that.
I hope that people get mad about that and they say,
it's wondering. This guy shouldn't be able to just take
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a big nap in here. We should close these things down.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Okay, So there's sort of a long you're kind of
playing there. Seems very convoluted and confusing, and that's.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
What should be good. I hope it's making you upset.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Well, here's what's making me upset is that I'm starting
to think now that because what you're describing, I'm one,
you know, air emissioning bathrooms. Yeah, that's great, but you
know you could have that in a home. Did you
lose your home in the settlement? Are you homeless now? Dan?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
First of all, well, I would say a lot of
these people like to be called houseless now, and that
upsets me because all they really.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Need to do is get a job McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
You could you kind of amazing place you could rent
if you have a job at McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yes, you could, and you could, and you get the
food at McDonald's and you can network.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
But you're kind of deflecting from the original question, which
is are you homeless?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But does that even matter? What does that have to
do with the laws in this country. Well, you are
too many people.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I would be upset for you, and that would give
me fuel for the rest of my week.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
So then I kind of hope you say yes.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Use that is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Great, So I'm going to take it as I kind
of you know, the thinker.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
You take it out right, need to take it, you'd
take it out, you need to take it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
And that's fair.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
That is absolutely fair, because not everything needs to be answered.
That's one of the things that makes everyone so mad.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Right exactly, And that I see, And that's a good
point Dan, that we should really hone in on here
is anger equals ambition? Okay, the most phil Jengis Khan.
He conquered the world because he was so.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Freaking pissed because he wasn't getting enough stuff or he
wasn't having enough sex with enough women.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Don't they say that like every single person is related
to Genghis Khan or something.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, yeah, there's like a mutation that they could trace
you back to. That's him basically in the DNA, and
that and science science is thus proving the angrier you are,
the more that you will accomplish get out there and
look at the stuff that's making you angry instead of
like what you said, how can I improve myself? No, no, no,
no no no.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Introspection is the death of society.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, do you know what what's the quickest way to
improve something. It's not by fixing it, it's by making
it worse for someone else.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Wow, that's right, great point out.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
And that's what people need to realize, is that my
life is better if I know someone else's life is worse.
And I didn't even have to do anything. All I
had to do was make it shittier for them.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Right exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I mean think about happiness like this. Everyone's competing, yes,
for happiness, for success. We're all climbing the same mountain here,
and everyone thinks, oh, I gotta get higher on the mountain. No,
you don't just cut everybody's rope that's next to you,
kick dead them down, all down, and then you're highest
on the mountain.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You want to kind of strap yourself to a bigger
person who's hopefully dead. They're the one anchoring you, guys.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Anchor yourself to a dead man. We've kind of been
screaming this all season long. Anchor yourself to a dead guy.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
That's the key to happiness, to quote.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Unquote happiness exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Wow, this is really good stuff, Dan, I gotta say,
I didn't think we'd come to such great conclusions and
such practical conclusions like a get pissed off anchor yourself
to a dead man. You're going to have a better
life and society's going to be better. Yeah, speaking of
contentness and happiness, let's talk about today's episode, Dan, because
today we have a guest who is I think very
content and that kisses me off that it was great
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to have her. I gotta say afterwards, I was a
bit agitated. Doctor Devina Kotowski is here to talk to
us about past life regressions, and I thought this conversation
Dan was really interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
It was, and you know, of course, I'm coming at
it from a very skeptical angle. I don't believe in
any of this. I think it's nonsense. It's lies, lies
from the left right.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
And I think we kind of learned, and you'll see
thinkers in the interview that we learned that Dan, essentially
his past lives were either non existent because he's such
a new soul, that's why he doesn't know anything and that's.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Why it's so fresh. That's why people aren't ready for me,
because I am a new There's a great first of all,
I hate Hollywood, you know that. But there's a great
movie that came out a couple of years ago called
Soul from Pixar, and it's all about these like little
babies that you know when they're ready to be born.
It's like the new little personality. And I feel like
I am one of those little blue spirit babies.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Because you love children's movies, right you always. I feel
like you see every Disney movie, every Pixar movie.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Because a child's movie it has to appeal to all ages.
You have to be able to still tell a story,
still be entertaining, still be dramatic, but for both parents
and children, and to be.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Able to just a huge challenge. It's just a really
huge challenge.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I mean, these writers.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Pixar movies are awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
And you know, this is a great segue into ads, guys,
because that's what you're going to have to listen to.
We just hit an ad for Pixar. You know, we
hate Hollywood, but we love Pixar. You're going to get
some ads coming up in a second that are not
for products that are as cool or for companies that
are a school as Pixar.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Would Pixar even do an ad? Does Pixar do that?
Pixarick out Pixar.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Okay, anyway, guys, ads coming up then, Doctor Divina Katolsky
Past life regression stick around. Doctor Divina Katolski is an author, speaker, psychologist,
and life coach who specializes in past life regression mediation.
Her last book, The mana Paradigm Shift, seamlessly connects cutting
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edge psychology and ancient spiritual wisdom to help the reader
create a life of freedom and fulfillment. Doctor Kotolski, thank
you so much for being on Man Thinkers.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
It's my pleasure.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
George, thanks for having me and I actually do past
life meditation regression, not past life mediation. That would be
a little more challenging.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yes, and you know what, I'm glad you clarified because
Dan and I are used to mediation and George.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Kind of messed that up as just he's unprofessional and
usually doesn't know what he's talking about. So that was
a great example of that. Thank you for pointing that out.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Doctor.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
My pleasure, Well, I wouldn't necessarily agree with that.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Too, probably move on and we have a guest link.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
It's just you're actually I'm trying to move on, and
then you keep kind of stopping us from moving on.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
But that's I'm not talking at doctor.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I think for most of our thinkers and our listeners
out there, they might not be super familiar with exactly
what a past life regression is. So can you talk
a little bit about what it is that you do
when you perform these and how what that process looks like.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Yeah, so a past life regression is it's a form
of hypnotherapy, relaxation and focused attention. So hypnosis itself is
really very heightened focus in a relaxed state. So I
guide people through a relaxation process, take them back in
time to their childhood and then back on to a
past life, and then we explore some important key memories
in a past life. Most people go back to something
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like an accident that happened, or the birth of a child,
their marriage, some key moment in their life. And then
I also guide them through the death process. I have
them go back to the last day of their life
and really put them in that memory. They can either
float above it or they can experience it, and I
ask them questions about like do they have any pain,
who's with them at their bedside?
Speaker 5 (15:56):
What do they recall?
Speaker 6 (15:57):
And then they go through the death process, and then
they made up in a garden with their spirit guide
and look for what is the lesson they needed to
learn then and how is it relevant to their life now.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
So you're almost that you're essentially killing somebody.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Yeah, they're going through the death process, so I'm not
killing them, but I'm taking them back and moving through
the process of death where they realize that even though
their body has died in that lifetime, their consciousness or
their soul lives on now.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Is this a horrifying experience for people? I mean, to
be experiencing a past death within a past life seems
like it could be scary.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
For some people. It can be scary for many people.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
They are experiencing a sense of peace and completeness, so
they might get a sense of some pain, but they
also are given the opportunity to just kind of be
above it a bit, and so they can report back
without really going into all of the physical sensations. But
every once in a while, somebody will have a memory
and it will be uncomfortable, and I'll move them out
of that quickly so that they're not suffering.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Now, Doctor, normally I would not believe in any of this,
but it's very impressive to me that you're able to
get somebody into that relaxed state. Are you able then,
just out of curiosity to take advantage of them before
you go away? Let's go over your will, their last
will and testament in this past life. Throw me in there.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Maybe that would be fascinating, great question, I think, because
of course, I think because they have they're just re
experiencing the past life. They're actually not going back in
time and changing things like Michael J.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Foss in future. I haven't figured that one out yet, but.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
That should because that would really help the business.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
It sounds for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I apologize. Doctor Dan's just kind of an idiot and
he doesn't realize that we're not talking about time travel
right now, we're talking about it.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I think there's a question a lot of thinkers. I'm
thinking about where where's the business at and here? And
how are you able to sustain a lifestyle because you're
so encouraging of others.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
This is a lesson that Dan's soul continues to refuse
to learn that life isn't just about business deals, it's
about growing spiritually.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Why don't we let the guests answer that is life
a series of business deals?
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Well, great question. I'm going to go back and you
answer the previous question.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Of course.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
So the previous question is are people in a state
where they can be easily manipulated? So I'd let them
know that they're going to go through a process of relaxation.
They never cluck like a chicken, they never lose consciousness,
they don't go under, it's not like that. They become very,
very relaxed and focused. So they can go back to
a childhood memory, for example, which is we always start there,
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and then we'll go back to the womb, and they'll
be able to remember things from being in the womb,
conversations fights their parents were having outside of the womb,
and it's fascinating. It blows my mind every time. And
I never tell people what their past lives were. I
don't ask any leading questions. I just asked them to
describe for me what they're seeing.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
That's fascinating stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Doctor, And I have to say, as someone who is skeptical,
I might be more inclined to check it out if
I knew that I was going to be hypnotized and
would cluck like a chicken. I think if someone could
get me to do that, then they've got some real
power of the mind.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Quit.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I have a question for you, doctor. Have you ever
regressed someone and you know, you relax, you see a door,
You open the door, and here you are, and what
do you see? And they're just like darkness, black, nothing?
Because I think that would happen to Dan. Has anyone
ever just gone back and it's like, oh, don't say anything,
something happened.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Well, I'm not going so don't put me into it.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Well you will if you click like a chicken. Anyway,
let's let the doctor doctor.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
There are times when I'm taking someone through the regression
and they do say things like I don't say anything,
I just see black. One of the things I tell
people when they do it is whatever is for your
highest good to see is what comes up. And so
sometimes people will end up actually having more childhood memories
with unresolved issues that are present for them, and so
we'll focus on that. But there are occasions where you
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know someone doesn't regress and I would say that's probably
about maybe two to three, two to five percent of
the population where they just get really relaxed, but they're
not able to see anything. I've definitely had people share
with me that they're afraid to know who they were
in a past life because they're convinced that they've done
something very wrong. They had lives where they weren't proud
of what they did, you know, German soldiers, Wow, got
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caught up Nazis and feel very bad about what happened. Again,
these experiences are fascinating to me as well. I don't
have all the answers, but I'm really interested in it
and love what I do.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
And do you find that there is a through line
with each person's past lives where there is a specific
lesson that they keep on trying to be taught via
their lives that they're maybe having trouble Like, is there
a thing that people take with them from life to life,
a specific lesson or a specific point of growth.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Absolutely, so some of the things that might come up
as somebody's gotten their heartbroken in a previous lifetime and
so they don't trust anyone in this lifetime and so
they're not attaching they're blowing up their relationships for whatever reason.
Other people have felt disillusioned for some reasons, they've taken
their lives. I've had several people in their past life
they committed suicide, and so it was like, Okay, how
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do you deal with disappointment and depression and make different
choices in this lifetime?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Is there anybody that you ever talked to that they're
saying their past life and you're like, Okay, you're just
dirking my chain. This definitely didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Nope, I haven't had that.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
There's going on and on. You're like, that's too many details.
You can't possibly know that. Get out of my office.
Nothing like that.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Nope.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Dan gets told to get out of doctors' offices, like
very consistently.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I like to keep doctors on their toes. So they're
telling me to do one thing. I kind of you
know Isaig when they want me to zach And that's that's.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Incredibly unhealthy person both physically.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Very healthy actually, because I don't have any charts. So
if I don't have any charts, there can't be anything
wrong with me.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Well maybe Dan, if you and I did a past
life aggression, maybe you would be the first.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
That would be great to have on my business card.
You know that I'm the only person to get kicked
out of a past life regression meditation.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You know, I've done past life aggressions before, and Dan's
soul always is there and he's always making my life
in my past lives worse. Do you find that that's
common in past life aggressions that you meditations that you perform,
Like do you see people recognize, Oh, that's that's my mom,
but she's not my mom in this life, she's my
sister or something like that?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Is that very common?
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Yeah? Definitely.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
There have been experiences where people will go back and
they'll recognize that their daughter in past life is their
mother in this life time, which explains some of it,
especially if they have a narcissistic parent. Oh of course,
you know I was taking care of you in this lifetime.
I'm taking care of you again in this next lifetime.
I've had people who were lovers and past lives and
now they're good friends in this lifetime. Whatever the combinations
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that happens frequently.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
How can I separate myself from this man? What is
my soul or what does his soul need to learn?
So we can finally grow apart from each other.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
My soul has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
So I can't speak to how for you to resolve
this together, but I can say one thing that might
be suggested is that you do some cord cutting, and
you do some things like you say a statement like
whatever vows I've made to Dan and this or previous lifetimes,
I now break those vows.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Because George, we talked about how this isn't time travel,
but George has told me that he has gone back.
He will bring a gun to a past life regression
and he wants to hunt me, sort of like the Terminator.
And it hasn't worked. And I'm telling you it doesn't
even sound healthy to me.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
I love that idea as a movie script.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
You act to write that we will and I Dan
is a failed Hollywood writer, not in a past life,
in this life, well in this life right because he
thinks it's because you know, Hollywood doesn't get his ideas.
But really, doctor, he's just they don't writer. I've read
his scripts. They're like, they don't make any sense, They're boring.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Does that do Christopher Nolan movies make any sense? I
don't think making sense is not a prerequisitition.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Rock Okay, they if they don't make sense, well sometimes
they don't, but they're awesome.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Doctor.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Where do you fall on Christopher nolan movies?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Are you pro or con I'm pro Christopher Nolan?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Hell yeah, thank you, because I write at the top
of every script this movie rocks, and then it's up
to the reader to see how it rocks. If they
don't get it, that's on them. It should be on them. Doctor.
Have you ever seen the movie The Matrix?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yes, fantastic.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
It's the best, the best movie ever made. And but
you know in the in the Matrix, when they go
into the matrix, they get jacked in and when they
get punched, you know, they get hit.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You know when they get Yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I was curious when people are in their past lives,
let's say they're doing some kind of matrix kung fu.
Do they get hit and hurt? And if they get
punched really hard, does blood kind of drip down their mouth?
Speaker 6 (24:05):
And they have never seen anyone bleed? But I have
seen them shake. I have seen them like you know,
writhe around in pain. It's fascinating to watch that. But yeah,
I haven't seen anyone bleed.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
When I listen to my heart to live my authentic life,
I just want people to do exactly what I want
them to do. But I'm told I'm wrong or intolerant
for that. But aren't I just listening to my heart?
Speaker 5 (24:33):
In that case, sounds like you're listening to your ego.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Is that not the same?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Thank you doctor, definitely not.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
There's the ego and the soul, and the soul and
the heart are connected. So it sounds like you're listening
to your ego by wanting people to do things your way.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Well, how would I separate the heart and the ego?
I feel like they're one thing. Or my heart is
encased in a nice, fatty layer of my ego.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
I think the way to proceed is just for you
to be yourself and to follow your heart's desire unless
it hurts.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Somebody's to be a tough one. Maybe I'm trying to
think out because the ego is so strong. I love
my ego. When you say about this of this is
hard on your heart, it's hard on your body, George
and I are able to use that as bragging points
for why you should listen to man thinkers. I mean
you say, hey, these guys are hard on their heart,
but they're not going to stop what they're doing. They're
not going to stop their anger and their righteous indignation
(25:20):
just for their heart because we're out here for the
thinkers of the world, So we're sacrificing ourselves. We're basically
the new Jesus, full stop, no question there.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Listen, we're free thinkers here.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
You know, I'm not trying to any former presidents, but
I'll tell you, one hundred years from now, some unlucky
soul is going to have to is going to do
a past life regression and they're going to realize they
were Donald Trump. And it's going to be a tough
pill to swallow. Even if you're pro Donald Trump, I
still think that's a tough pill to see.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Him to have been him. Good luck to that future soul.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
As soon as Donald Trump dies, whenever that may be.
And I don't think he's going to die for a
long time because he's by healthy and anger that once
he dies, is his his life open? Is it open
season to say, hey, I was I was in there,
he was me.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, how does it take to read?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:06):
What's the fascinating question?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Thank you again?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Yeah, yeah, I have no idea how long it takes.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
I did hear once and again this was just I
don't know if I read this someplace or where I
read this someplace that when someone horrible or let's say powerful, dies,
that it's not the time you want to have a baby,
because that soul can fresh yeah, right into it.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
So there's another antiprise situation.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
But my understanding is that a soul can come back
as soon as it wants to. So you can go
and rest and learn some more lessons or if you
want to reincarnate, you can do it when you're ready.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Where did it rest? Where do we go?
Speaker 6 (26:44):
Go?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Ahead?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Because my question was better, Uh no, I'll go Where
do we go? When you say rest? Like, do you
have any insight? Do you see or do you hear?
Rather your clients and patients they say, oh, I'm in
this cosmic benevolent juices, and I'm just like, where where's
the resting phase where everyone going?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (27:01):
So with my clients and with my process, sometimes people
will go to a very kind of dark place where
they felt at peace and there's relaxing music, kind of vibrations,
I should say, and some of them kind of talk
about just being at peace.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
And how did this all, how did this all come
to you, How did this present itself to you? Where
did this all come from?
Speaker 6 (27:22):
So when I was young, I had memories of a
past life and was trying to share that with my parents,
and I think they.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Thought it was really weird.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Good parenting, yeah, exactly. But I always had a sense
that this wasn't my first lifetime and kind of went
through life with that. And then when I started working
as a therapist, I would notice different issues with people
that they would seem really hung up on certain relationships
that kind of like you guys, where there was a
lot of animosity and they kept trying to quit each
(27:50):
other but couldn't quit each other, and it really felt
like there was something more there, and so I just
would make notes of that. And then well, then I
had my own experience of meeting somebody that I absolutely
knew that I knew them in a past life.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
And when that happened, it gave me permission, Like it
just was. It was an uncanny experience.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
I won't go into the details, but it gave me
permission to really invest in reading more and studying more
about past life and life between lives and had heard
about doctor Brian Weiss and his book Many Masters, Many
Lives for years. Finally picked it up, really had a
hull moment with it, and then decided to go do
some training with him. When you have a past life
progression and you bring back a piece of yourself, there's
(28:28):
a sense of wholeness, so you're bringing back more of
yourself that you've sort of forgotten about. I had another
one that was fascinating where the guy had died because
he had had this is wild. He had a pet pterodactyl,
or he had befriended a pterodactyl, and when the pterodactyl
was small, it was fine and they you know, connected
and whatever, and then the pterodactyl ate him.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Well, well you can't, it's too I would say that.
I would suggest that to him right away, say, hey,
you can't tame a pterodactyl.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
No wait a minute, ar art waits our thought pterodactyls
were dinosaurs.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
This guy was, Yeah, this was back to caveman times.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
I've had a few people in caveman time.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Uh huh, yeah, wild caveman and dinosaurs hanging out.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Listen, that's a great segue. Dan to one of my
last questions, doctor, which is, you know, you seem like
a very wise person who has you know, lived a
very wise life in this time lifetime and maybe past.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Lifetimes as well.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
And I'm interested in starting my own cult, doctor, and
I think you would be an amazing selling point if
I said, hey, come out of the woods with me
and my friends. Doctor Divine Katolski is going to give
you a past life regression and maybe you and I
can just kind of make sure that the regression is
a fun one. You know, maybe they were a king
or a queen or whatever. And I think that would
suck people right in. And then on the back end,
I give you five ten percent of whatever we make
on the cult. I mean, what do you say, doctor,
(29:37):
I think we should go into business together.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Well, thank you for the invitation, George.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
It's always nice when somebody offers you an entrepreneurial opportunity.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Nice, but I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Have to pass you got it? Do we? It was
our pleasure and our joy. We learned so much about
past life edisions. We learned, or rather re learned that
Dan is a dark, cold heart and there's probably no
hope for him and is there anything else you'd like
to plug or any other last thoughts you have, doctor, Yeah, if.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
People want to do a past life regression, definitely contact
me and Dan. I'd like to offer you a past
life regression for free if you're if you want to participate.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I think I have to. I will do that. Or wait,
if I don't take the past life regression, would you
give me the equivalent money?
Speaker 5 (30:11):
I love that question. Again, you think on it. I'm
going to have to decline that.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Okay, gift card, would think about it. Yeah, gift card
or any anything to a restaurant target maybe something target
or something like that. But okay, something to consider. Thank you, doctor,
You're welcome.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Thank you both.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
What an interesting person. Absolutely, let's just say that, right something.
We could a lot of interesting things to say. I
think she's a sage.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
What I liked about her is that she had some
really good answers and when she didn't have the answer,
she she wasn't afraid to admit that she had no idea.
And I think that is that's that's it, And I
think that's fair because she's working with some unknown things.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
And I wonder if we is there a lesson there
for us do we ever maybe we should Nah, I
think we just it's different because there aren't we don't
talk about things that right, because we don't talk about that.
Don't know, we don't know anything about we always have
the answer, and so yeah, you know, but.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
She may have even said that, hey, this works for me,
but you guys, obviously you should just keep talking and
don't ever admit that you don't know something. I think
she said that I can't really remember, you know, a
little bit disappointing to find out that people, if they're
getting punched in their past lives, they all kind of
knock around like Neo did. But maybe we could change that,
because what if we time travel back to the first
(31:26):
past life guy and state that as like a rule.
You know, so you're like doctor Freud. Wait, first past,
like doctor doctor Sigmund Freud, and you're you know, you
travel back in your past life. You're like, hey, doctor Divina,
send me back to Freud. You're Freud now.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
You think doctor Freud was the first human being would.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Say that's what's going on. Just follow me here. Doctor
Divina blasted us to doctor Freud. She sends you back.
You're doctor Freud now, and you say, hey, patient, Well it.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Doesn't work like that. You can't just request to be people.
But you're hey, we said we weren't going to be
able to fly.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Now we've got commercial flights, thousands of them a day,
so you want you don't have to repeat it back.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Arbitrary, big doctor stegmen Freud, The first human being ever
to have lived, essentially is what you're saying, because otherwise,
the first one to do a regression, the first past
life guy is just the first hue the person past
lives are real what they are. I don't think you
understand do you understand what the what we're talking about
in that conversation?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Why does it matter whether I understand it? What I don't.
We've we've already gone over this in our conversation with
doctor Divina Katolski is that it doesn't. When I'm talking,
I have no idea what I'm saying. But what's important
is that I am talking, and I'm mad.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I don't think she made any of those points, and
we really appreciate her time. Guys, check out her book
The Man a Paradigm Shift and get get regressed.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Guys, regress regressed.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
If our show is about anything it's about regressing regrets
a little bit. It is about your going then backwards. Okay,
when you're finished listening to an episode of Man Thinkers,
I want your life to be worse off because if
your life it's worse off, you're going to be upset.
And if you're upset, you're gonna have fuel to get
you through the day.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
That's what we learned.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Today, That's what we did. I'm pretty sure that's what
the doctor told us. Really enter saying yes, schedule something
with her, schedule anything, and you know what, you were
Nazi in a past life. Sorry to hear it, but
stay mad about.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
And remember guys, whether you're in a past life or
you're in this life, keep thinking.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Always be thinking.
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