March 30, 2023 • 30 mins
Dan and George discuss the need for more content if the human species is to survive and flourish. Then, the Thinkers are joined by SNL alum and Christian conservative, Victoria Jackson, who explains how she is fighting woke-ism in our country's libraries by reading graphic pornography in churches.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
You're listening to The Man Thinker's podcast, a show that
forge is a new roadmap for the modern man on
how to best live life. I'm George Collins, a former
liberal cuckhole, and I'm Dan Finkelstein, a staunch libertarian in
cell we think, so you don't have to Dan, Did
you realize this is episode nineteen? No, I didn't know.
(00:23):
I didn't know that. I don't really keep up with
the show, so no, I know you've never listened to
a single episode, But I well, you know, I have
a lot of business ventures. You know, I speak. I
do a lot of speaking engagements, so you know, and
I know this is a big priority for you, But
for me, I've got other I take my work seriously.
I think I take pride in my work. You don't
take pride in anything in your life. But I have
so much past, so much more pride than you. I
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am more prideful, more proud of the things that I've done.
You're not even close. But you haven't les. I haven't done.
Have you done? I've been in law school twice. That's
how proud because you've failed out the first time. And
I got prouder and I was still proud. I failed,
and I was still proud. I love myself unconditionally. You
don't even love yourself that much. I'm working on self love.
That's one of the things that I work on in
my in my meditations. Listen, I think it's always good
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to be working on yourself and expanding your comfort zone.
You've stayed within your At what point does do you
get good? At what point are you finally like okay,
I'm okay, because you seem you're going to go right
back into the gutter this once the show is done,
You're going right back. What are you talking about? You're
worried about season two? Right? Why do you think you're
sem a little worried about? You're going right back to
the gutter. Hey, don't say that. Okay, I've worked. I'm
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gonna have to rescue You didn't rescue me, okay, if anything,
you put me in the gutter. To be honest, Love,
when those accusations started coming down the pike, granted, I
lost it because my name is connected to yours, and yeah,
I went on a bit of a bender. You didn't
do anything to get me out. You did everything to
put me in, and thank god I got out. But anyway, well,
I've just season two. I am a little worried about
season two because I don't know. I don't know if
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our podcast is actually like making any money, you know,
because I don't know if there's like the pills. It's
all about the sad pills. That's what the well real
buddy is real, but the pill money goes to you
and me. I don't know if I Heeart Media is
making any money off the pills. Although maybe we should
talk to the head who's the head of I Heart.
Maybe we should talk to them and say, hey, look,
we'll give you a cut on the sand pills and
keep us. It's not a name, is it I period
Heart or something like that, You mean, like the CEO
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I Heeart? No, I think it's the name of the company.
What are you talking about? Are you stupid? I'm just
guessing names. You needed us to guess names. That's my
first guests. First guest doesn't have to be a good guess. See,
that's the thing. You jump on things, You jump on
decisions before you even know what the truth is. And
the truth is this show has to be the most
popular show in at least America. It's not well I
need it to be because I know you Dot. We
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both we both got you have a late a lot
of money with these core cases, and I have been
fooled by too many fucking cults. I don't know how
many fucking gurus I've given money to, but I am
just drained. Dude, you could inflate numbers though, right, Like
I've here's the thing I'm trying to look into that.
I'm trying to look like, how do you lie about numbers?
How do you lie about numbers? Do you just do it?
I think I think you don't look back? Oh do
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it like well, yeah, like do it in a way
where the powers that be believe us. But does any
podcast make money? Like, let's just be there's any money
in any of this. I think everybody's kind of alliance,
probably because there's too many podcasts. I mean, you know,
like maybe there's just too many, Like maybe a bunch
of other people should just quit and just leave the
podcast content to us. You know what are you talking about?
That's just wishful thinking. I've heard a lot of people
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complain about this kind of stuff recently. Have you heard
about this content fatigue? Content fatigue and that brings me
to today's big question. Do all women wish they were
their own feces? Heure onto? Would children be safer if
everyone's stopped having Joe Biden be the first ghost press
washing your hands? Actually bad fire Onto House is so scary.
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Does the world need more content? More content? You're saying
there's not enough. I'm saying the world might need more,
does it? Well, I mean, okay, that's interesting because there
is kind of a lot. I mean when you think
about it. But that's what I'm worried about. People are
already getting fatigued, people talking about there's too much. I'm
so tired from all the content. First of all, that's
weak talk. That is a little yeah, you know, pull
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yourself up by your bootstraps and start another episode. I mean,
it's not that hard to keep your eyes open like it.
Let's just be honest, like it's one of the easiest things.
It's not that hard to pay attention. Because here's the thing, judge,
some of these big corporations right now, you know Netflix
is we need these guys to grow for the economy.
Well now they're starting to shrink a little bit because
people are saying it's too much content. I used to
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pay X amount for cable, do you. I can't believe
they got to be liberal the people that are saying
this stuff because they're whining, because they're anti growth, they're
anti economy, then we you know liberals are that. I mean, look,
when Netflix is producing hundreds of shows that no one watches,
that means our country is doing great. That means the
economy is growing. It means people are working, it means
there's jobs. It's supposed to be or showing bad stories.
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That's what I want. That's it should well, it should
just be there because look, we know we've got wars coming,
big ones, and it's not just going to be fought
on the battlefield. It's going to be fought with the culture,
and the culture comes from content. It's gonna be fought
on your Roku. It's gonna be fought on your Apple one,
It's gonna be fought on your Netflix player. Guys, that's
where the real war is. That's where the trenches are.
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Think about the next generation. What's going to happen to
the next generation if they don't have enough content? Could
you imagine that? And they say, and I read this somewhere,
I don't remember where I read it. But they say
in two generations from now, there won't be enough content
if we don't continue to make content. Are you sure
not confusing that with the birthrate or something like that,
there's like not a replacement. Yeah, no, no, but they're saying,
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they're saying it. I'm just saying what they're saying, you know,
but I'm saying, are you confusing the content replacement theory
with like the birthrate thing? Because I've heard the thing
about we actually need more humans to be born because
the population will go into decline because the content too.
Probably that doesn't really kind of track for me, But
that's right. I will say, though, Dan, one thing to
kind of keep in mind, just to push back, because
you know, that's what we do. It's a dialogue, right,
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this is our show. Is there such a thing as unplugging,
you know, kind of detoxing from the screens, from the algoes,
from the socials, from the content. Just take a breather,
because like maybe there is something to Hey, let's take
a break and come back stronger. For example, Jan, remember
when you were using the fleshlight every time that you masturbated,
and you kind of became addicted to it. And then
after some time went by, you couldn't use your hand
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anymore because you needed to put your penis inside of
a rubber contraption. Why are we order to be stimulated?
And then remember remember I threw it out for you.
And then after about a couple of months you said, hey,
you know, my dick's working again, and I said, you're welcome.
So maybe it's a slack first of all. First of all,
we're bringing some things that are out of context here,
and it's for what this has no bearing on. Well,
I'm just saying what we're talking about right here. I'm
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just saying it's it's similar to your situation with your penis,
your master. We're talking about that. I just start talking
about that. That's the first thing that came to your mom.
You destroyed your penis with that flashlight, with that device,
almost rendered you a penisless man. And I swooped in
and I said no more, and I threw this thing out.
So you did not swoop contacted fleshlight. I said, don't
let Dan filkistein order anymore. All right, Um, we're going
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to need more content if we're going to have more people.
But for example, Dan have you ever run into the
situation where you know it's late at night, you're home
alone as you always are, and you turn on Netflix
or Hulu and you're just like bombarded with so many options.
You go, I don't even know what to watch, and
then you just trying to team enough. It's not enough.
Right now, we're America and we want to lead the world.
And you can't lead the world if you have places
like Netflix, if you have places like Hulu cutting back
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saying hey, we're not going to produce as much content
for the people. What are the people going to do
once they run out? And if even if you're a
big listener of our podcast, which we appreciate, go back
and listen again, what are you doing? Play it on
two devices at the same time and mute one of them.
That's great, Yes, yeah, that would be really good actually,
because that will help our numbers. I know it's all
about the numbers. And we're losing, and America is losing.
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If we're losing, America is losing. If I'm not doing well,
if I'm not thriving, I'm really worried about the country.
You know, we should talk to iHeart about maybe trying
to get Hulu buy our podcast. That would be excellent.
Is that how it works? You just go and say, hey,
can you buy this? Haven't you pitched before you were
a Hollywood writer, You haven't pitched a show before. Oh yeah,
I've pitched. I've pitched the show. But I didn't know
that you can just be like, hey, here's a podcast,
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buy it. I amdbat you recently and I actually saw
that you wrote on that children's show or something about
that Barney. Were you a staff on Barney for like
half a season? Just? Yeah, it was half a season
and it didn't it didn't work out. There were some
creative differences. So obviously that means that I am a
good screenwriter. I am successful because I have written for television.
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That was a long time ago. But it was a kid,
you know, I was a kid savant. I was. I
was you know, I was so young when I went
to law school, and I was so young when I
was a TV writer. I was a kid um And
that's that was a problem. They kind of hired you
because you were just such a child mentally, And why
did it? Why only half a season? What happened? Creative
differences meaning what would you want to turn Barney into
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something it wasn't. I'm saying I was trying to write
good stories, quality stories that need to be told that
all of America kind of appreciate, and Barney, you know,
they want to talk about the same shit every week. Well,
I'm sure at the time it felt right. That being
your biggest credit, you know, for the last decade and
a half, seems like a bit of a tragedy. Feel
like maybe you shot yourself on the foot there but
burned a few bridges. You don't understand him down, Anya, Yeah,
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would have burned him down anyway. You don't understand the business,
so no reason to keep talking about it. Or you
can keep trying, but you're not making sense. You sound crazy. Guys.
What a great show today. Fantastic show, great interviewer Victoria Jackson, beautiful, hilarious, kind,
all the things, so much funnier than anyone. She knows
what's funny, she knows what is morally correct a thousand percent.
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Can I just say she's a joy to be around.
I mean, she was so much fun to talk to.
Great attitude. You won't be able to see it, thinkers,
because you're listening, but amazing, it's not anything quirky cool,
and she's they don't. She's like the female Kevin Sorboll.
You want to talk about Zena Warrior Princess. Victoria Jackson
is the real Zena. I'm going to write a screenplay
for them. You know, we should talk about a new Bible.
Oh shit, did we even talk to her about that?
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She'd have been excellent. Who's keeping track of the stuff? Clay? Hey, Clay,
are you keeping track of the stuff or what? Yeah?
What is Clay's deal? I just the guy. Did you
know he went to Thailand recently? Like? What are you
doing well? Thailand? He's talking? We talked about We talked
about Thailand in this episode. That's true. Well you've been
many times because you like, I mean, I don't know
what kind of kinky weird over there, but it's important
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to me to witnes us what is out there? And
so if I hear about, you know, some kind of
rotten show with rotten morals, I find that it's important
for me to sort of study it. So you consider
the weird sex shows that you go to Thailand to consume,
you consider that content. It is absolutely so, guys, stick
around for Victoria Jackson interview coming up right after these ads,
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and listen. I'm just gonna apologize for these ads ahead
of time, because, like I said, our numbers are crappy,
and when you get crappy numbers, you get crappy ads, guys,
and that's your fault. Yea, yeah, I don't know what
else to tell you. I'm worried about America. Absolutely you
will be too after you hear these ads, So check
it out, guys. Our guest today is a former Saturday
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Night Live cast member when the show was actually good.
Not sure if you've been paying attention, but it's very
bad now, and is an expert ukulele player and a
self described conservative Christian. Victoria Jackson Victoria, thank you so
much for being on Man Thinkers, George and Dan. I'm
honored to be here because I love men, and I'm
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still allowed. Are white men still allowed in this country?
You know? Sometimes, you know, we have a tough time
at customs. Do men ever come to you and say,
I don't even know how to be a man anymore.
I feel like I'm not allowed to be well. Sometimes
I tell people that the white man invented everything, and
then people get really mad at me. Oh wow, Yeah, yeah,
but think of all the things that the white man
invented is kind of amazing. Can you give us a
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couple of examples. What are some good white you know inventions? Okay, airplane, car, universe,
English language, those are good. I love cars and planes
and I love speaking English. Yeah, well the whole world
is actually but I digress. I was going to tell
you something and I forgot. That's okay, that's okay. You know.
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I don't know if you know this, Victoria, but I
was a screenwriter and I couldn't get hired. And I
say it's because I was a white man. You know what.
I lost my agent when I started to be served
in twenty ten. My agent at APA said, you can't
send me on stand up gigs anymore because all the
clubs are owned by liberals. And then when I said
two boys should I be kissing on the show Glee?
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My agent in Atlanta at the People's Store dumped me.
So I understand, Well, I have a couple of follow
ups there, because it sounds like you said you started
being a Christian in two thy ten? Is that correct? No? No,
I became a Christian at six years old. I was
raised a Baptist Church, and when I was six, I
learned to read and I was like, I got what
the preacher was saying. I was like, oh, John three
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sixteen Eternal Life. Oh I want that, sure good stuff. Finkelstein,
are you Jewish? I am believe it? Use it to
my all day. Oh my god. You would think you
would offers in Hollywood for his screenwriting. Exactly. You would
think that. And that's the worst part about it is,
I say that to my Jewish brethren, why not take
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advantage of the nepotism here. You know, we have the
same ancestry, So just give me a job. Sure I
identify as Jewish, it'll so it helps me in a
lot of situations to you know, to use religious freedom.
But in general I kind of don't like Jews that much.
You know. Again, when it helps me, it's fantastic. I
love je I'm married. My first husband was Jewish and
a fire leader. He was he ate fire, real cool.
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Jews don't kill lambs and sheep for their sins anymore.
For blood sacrifice. Without the shedding of blood, there's no
remission of sins. Because Jesus was the ultimate lamb, and
he and the temple veil ripped the Holy of Holies.
A wee can directly talk to God now because the
lamb died pressed right right, and the thing about kosher
and all that and circumcision. God just to do that,
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because that that's smart. It keeps you healthy. God was
looking out. God was obsessed with circumcision in the Old Testament.
He loved it. I mean, that's how that was the Covenant.
He said, hey, you want to make a deal, you
better snip the tip. He wasn't obsessed, Well, he did
a lot. Come on, there were a lot of scores.
Does a lot always say he's obsessed with circumcision. And
it's a bit much. I'm saying in terms of testaments,
you got to one of them's got a lot of
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circumcision stories. The other one not so much. Well, you know,
he can exaggerate because comedy is exaggeration. Now, I'd like
to explain to you why I'm wearing this funny out. Yes,
this is so funny, you're gonna die, Okay, tonight, I
have volunteered for the Moms for Liberty to read porn
in a church. Holy smokes, Now that sounds like a sin.
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Let's can we flush this out a little bit. Who
are the moms for liberty? And why are they reading
porn in a church? Because we have discovered that in
the public school libraries there is wolke porn and the
parents don't know because the parents don't go into the
school libraries very much. And some of the textbooks have
nuded have you know, man on man, girl on girl,
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how to masturbate, And we don't think it's appropriate for
young kids to read or see that. I think it
will take their innocence away. They actually have a book
in the Columbia Library in the eleven year old section
that has a picture of how to do soft to
me well, a picture of an us, a picture of
a penis erect tips on how to do it, how
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to douche in the children's section eleven twelve year olds.
What book is this? It's called I Wish I had
him here. Um, it's an odd book to write for
a child. How to douche, To douche your anus so
that it's clean before you penetrate. I'm serious. This is
for eleven and twelve year old. So I was thinking,
is it wrong to have kinky sex if you're married?
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And then in the middle of the night because everything's
allowed in the marital bed. Woke up in the middle
of the night and I like this sodom and gom
God does not like me. No wait, wait, wait, you
scream that you woke up in scream. If I had
a penny for every time I've woken up in the
middle of the night screaming sodom and gomora, let me
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tell you, I would be a rich rich man. Rich man.
It's only happened to me once. Okay, well, hopefully it
starts happening more now, Victoria, real quick though, because I
don't I don't so the pornography at the library reading,
Why does that induce this specific outfit. You just wanted
to wear something crazy because you were going to do
something crazy. That's a great question. Thank you, George, thank you.
You're welcome. We're also comment on the drag Queen story Hour.
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I'm dressed up like mother Goose. We're gonna make its
story time with Victoria, and you're going to think that
I'm going to read something sweet and innocent to the children,
and then I'm going to be reading these books that stuff.
This is how to you know, dochhre anus when you
want to have mail on you know, penetricstory. I'm just
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getting a little confused because I'm on one hand, I'm thinking, yes,
this is a great protest. On the other hand, it
sounds like you're also just reading pornography in the church,
which is similar to the drag Story Hour. But they
actually just read kids stories, don't they. And again I'm
against them. I can't stand drag queens. Yeah, but I'm sorry.
I was just I was getting the mixed messages there. Well, yeah,
it does seem wrong to read it out loud. But
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the problem the team we're trying to do is make
a point and if the adult uncomfortable, then maybe go
wake up and go, oh wait a minute, maybe they'll
have a sodom and go mora epiphany at three in
the morning. Because it seems like what you're trying to do,
it's like the drag queens. You know, they're dressed like
very wild, but then when they read it's children's stories,
it's just a normal children story. But where you're doing
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is you're dressing right, like, hey, this is a sweet
story time think, But then when I'm reading is nuts, right,
So it's kind of flipping the script on them. It's like, actually,
I'm sending a bad signal here, whereas they're just doing
normal stuff, but they look crazy. That's good, that seems good. Yeah, yeah,
that's I mean, some of you know, I can't stand
some of these drag queens. So I've started to watch
some drag stuff, and again I hate it. These people
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that do this, though, are very talented, which which surprised me.
I don't know if you've ever seen any of it, Victoria,
but they're the way they do the makeup and stuff.
You can't believe that it's a man. It's really why.
Actually I was doing stand up one day about a
year ago, and I actually opened for a drag show
with that. Didn't know. I didn't know. Sometimes they're so convincing.
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That's the problem. Did you kill the audience? Love you?
I knew they were men. I didn't know that I
was open for a drag shell. If you want to
do that, go to Thailand, where it's lawless and people
are free to do what they want, whereas here we
have laws that's say, well not yet, but we have
some laws that are like, you're not supposed to do that,
you know what I mean? Victoria. Dan is constantly talking
about Thailand. I think he loves Thailand. I think because
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you could do what I want. I don't, and I
don't want to know why he's gone. You know what
I'm saying, Victoria, because I don't know what he's doing
over there. They're just saying, you know about the world, okay.
In the same way, Victoria, with some weird stuff out
in Thailand, I just want to be on I protest
Thailand by saying I want to see what's out there.
I want to see the ping pong ball shows, I
want to see the lady boys because I know I'm
not gonna like it. So you travel halfway across the
world just to see something you know you're not gonna like.
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I don't buy it. But anyway more than halfway, buddy,
you think you just got a good point in because
you proved that it's more halfway. What are you google
maps over here? You got you got me on the distances.
I'll give you that, Dan, But I got you on
sexual interest, Victoria. No, no, no, it's a protest. Go ahead,
I doing. Why do you think SNL is so bad? Now?
What was the question? George just asked me? So my
question was when you were on SNL. It was so funny.
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You were so funny. And now you know, I've watched
this soow recently and it just bores me. I mean,
why do you think that is? Why has the show
gotten so bad over the years. My theory is that
it started out seventy five as rebellious, like you know,
the hippies are running the studio. They were always the rebels.
So as time went by and second law off thermodynamics
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says the world is in a state of entropy. I
means everything's getting worse. It was scientific physics, fat getting worse.
Everything's getting worse, you know thaning the you know, the
universe one was good and that's a great show. So
if you're the rebellious one in the seventies, then the
eighties you got to be more rebellious than the nineties.
You got to be more bellies. So they became so
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left that they're as propaganda now and it's not funny anymore.
When Obama was the president, they wouldn't make fun of them.
They wouldn't touch him, they would not say that sometimes
they're funny. That whale sketch. It was funny when they
had witty Harrelson be the hippo and making fun of
the movie The Whale for Funny two weeks ago. Sometimes
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it's great, I mean the Victoria. Sometimes I do. Um, yeah,
do you have Do you still have a relationship with
Lauren Michaels. Is he still a friend of yours? Well?
He was never my friend. And as I watched Dana
and David Spade new podcast, I realized Laura wasn't friends
with anyone. I think that he's like the Prince by
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Marcia Velli when it says you rule by fear or love.
He rules by fear. So he's a sociate, but it
seems to be he's a sociopathic person. Has always seemed
like from the outside, you're always like walking on eggshells
kind of thing. It sounds like a fun place to be.
That's kind of how I tried to and you know,
and not to say that it's a comforting way of
being a boss, but it is effective. Is to always
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keep your employees on your toes and that's unfortunately for
the people who work for us. That's how I tried
it to treat them, and I learned that from Lauren Michaels. Well,
I think what Lauren it was make it survival of
the fittest, so he brought the best out of us.
Have you ever considered you were talking before about you know,
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you said a few things. Your agent didn't like what
you had to say. Have you ever considered being, you know,
a little bit more selective about what you say publicly,
you know, so you could be you say, okay, yeah,
you know, I like everybody. Everybody's fine, but then privately
you're a little like, you know, I don't believe any
of this stuff. Just so you could keep working. That's
a great, great, great question slash statement. I'll tell you
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the reason I spoke out. First of all, Jesus said,
going to all the world and preach the gospel to
the jew first, and also to the Greek, the two
main types of people, but also to us. George respect
are you Jewish? George, I'm never Jewish, but he's Greek.
I am Greek, and I am unfortunately uncut. I wish
I had been circumcised, but I but I wasn't unfortunatege
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also mentions that every episode I do, I try to
get it in there just so people know. It's like
a scarlet letter that I wear, but instead of my face,
it's on my penis. But anyway, Victoria, you were saying,
I didn't mean to interrupt you. You could do it
now because they have really good drugs. You could get
the Michael Jackson drug, which I had when I had
done to me when I cancer. You get the Michael
Jackson drug. Is that what is called? It's just and
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this doesn't want It knocks you out, or the one
that he died from. It makes you knocks you out.
When you wake up you're super happy. So cool. You
can get decision under that drug and when you wake
up you'd be super happy. But great, George, and you
could use that. That would be I could be I
could use more happiness in my life. But sorry, Victoria,
we interrupted you to talk about my penis. But I
didn't mean to do that. What were what were you
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talking about? Okay? So when I spoke thought about Glee,
I was feeling really bad for this generation whose innocence
is being stolen. If they only watch Netflix and TV
and they're in their in their phones, they're gonna think
left left communist porn. Left left communist porn, I think
is first of all, that should be on a T shirt.
It should honestly be the motto of our podcast Left
Left Communist, Left Communist Porn. That's how you should start
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your book reading tonight. Well, that brings me to my
next question, because you're talking about entropy and evil prevailing.
I think God let's evil prevail. Sometimes. I think God
like thinking. So I like your show because you're thinking,
and God would like that because he's all about free
will anyway. Yeah, I always say God's all about having choice.
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You make the choices, and you should have the freedom
to do that. Not when it comes to like abortion
or something like that, but in terms of just more
like the choices. You know, you're data dad, choice of life. Yeah, exactly, Well,
abortion too, and the babies, I believe quot to heaven
and the mothers can be forgiven because the Bible says
you can be forgiven for everything already wins, which is nice.
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That's that's one thing. Look, I don't like abortion, but
that's one thing I like about it is that in
the end everybody kind of wins. Well victory. You seem
very knowledgeable with scientific ideas and whatnot. Back to the
law of entropy. So the second law of entropy you
said was everything's getting worse. So the world's getting worse
all the time? Is that correct? Well, everything to kys
and falls apart, our bodies fall apart. Okay, So so
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that does that imply then that like now is the
worst time to be alive, Like was thousands of years
ago a better time to live? Because like the world's
just getting worse. That's a good question. The Bible says
that the times will be end, times will be getting worse.
That's a great that's also just an interesting point, George
of just you know, so that means cavemen, Well, are
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there cavemen in the Bible? I forget if their cavemen
in the Bible, but cavemen were having a good old time.
It is kind of the idea there, which is an
interesting scientific thesis. There's no hypothesis. There's no man in
the Bible there. It starts with and yeah, we're not
from monkeys, for one, Yeah, right, a Victoria, back me
up on this. If we're for monkeys, why are there
still monkeys? Right? Why didn't all the monkeys become humans?
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You know what I mean? Like, why aren't the monkeys
talking and the monkeys talk about sodamy? Have you ever
seen monkeys at the zoo, those guys, those are there
at a lot of monkeys look human. I agree. A
lot of fruit and vegetables look like sex organs, and
I always do you think of it? Yeah, whenever I'm
in the produce aisle, penis, penis vagina, balls, ass falls.
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It's crazy, Victoria. This kind of goes back to what
you were talking about with drag Queen storytime. But I
have read that in some circles you have become a
bit of a gay icon because of your style and
the way you have meant right now, that's cool, yes,
So how does that make you? Does that make you
feel powerful? Because they are rooting for you even though
you're rooting against them. I'm not rooting against them. My
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best friend is Beckett Cook, and he was a gay
lifestyle for his whole life until twelve years ago, and
he met Jesus and he's been set a bit twelve
years and he's he has left the gay lifestyle. He's
super handsome and he's super smart, like he lost his
career for Jesus. Actually, I feel like if most gay
people knew that they could lose their career and never
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have sex again, they would sign right up. What about zombies?
You know, because I was thinking, on one hand, okay,
they're part of like liberal media. But then on the
other hand, I'm thinking, well, Jesus was kind of a zombie,
right he was resurrected, so he's probably a zombie at
that point. So cro zombies are anti zombies. No. First
of all, I hate zombies. They're so ugly to look at.
And number two, Jesus was not that. Jesus didn't come
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out of the grave with death all over him. He
was a living, breathing person. But here's the thing. I
just got asked to be in a zombie movie. Wow.
But I told the guy I hate zombies. I don't
want to be in it, and he goes, well, I
don't want you. I want you to be playing the
ukule aliens singing while the zombies walking by. I'm like, whatever,
do you think you could write something like a man
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Thinkers theme song, because we don't actually have one right now.
Man Thinkers with George and Dan man Thinkers, they think
all they can and they shared when you man thinkers,
I'm gonna have to work on this store a little
whow because I yeah, I got that was good. Pretty
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good and I will be using it like the second
or I like the hard cutout. Let's just stop boom
song over, we don't care. That was great. George okay,
Man Thinkers, Man Thinkers, man thingers with George and that's it.
That was good. That was good. I don't like that
Dan got a longer. I feel like you said his
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name for I like the way that sounds too just
to emphasize, because that's why most people are listening to
it with George shoe that feels a little too long
to me. I would cut it. That was perfect with
George and Dan. I love that. That was perfect. Thank you,
and then it just kind of blends into letters sing
(27:41):
it that would be great, thanks to I'm sorry, I
was just trying to listen to the good part of
the song. Je cut it. That would cut that and
Dan beautiful. I gotta say I'm not a huge fan.
I was not a huge fan the direction. Yes, we're
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just like Beyonce Victoria. Thank you so much for being
on Man Thinkers giving us all that insight. Was fantastic interview.
And good luck with the zombie short and good luck tonight,
good luck reading the woke porn. Thank you what a
lovely lady. Fantastic I mean, I love the music. But
you know what something I learned is she's a fighter.
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I mean I love to check in with her and
see how that reading went. Because to read very graphic
pornography to children in the library, that just seems what
a flex I mean, what in the church? Church? The
church as a protest I love how confusing it is.
You know, liberals are all gonna be like, wait, why
does this equate, like why does a drag show or
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a drag star reading the kids regular books? Because they
don't read weird books to kids. They just read. Tried
to point that out. I don't know if I made
it clear. I tried to point that out. Churder An
interviews very strange reaction to the drag I'm going to
go to a church to protest by reading pornography, which
I don't even know what that means. Which is so
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and you know, you know, liberals are going to be
saying that I don't even understand what this means. What
is she trying to prove? And I'm not quite sure
what she is trying to prove. But what I am
sure about is it's a hell of a move, and
and that's what liberals is they exactly, it's it's a swing, guys,
doesn't have to make rational sense. It just has to
be a big swing. And that's what we're all about
over here on the right side of the aisle. Right,
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just do something big and crazy, do something insane and
then let people let liberals freak out about it and
laugh at them when they do. It's like, can have
a little fun and be smart and just shut up. Exactly,
have fun, be smart, and shut up. Guys. I came
from that world. Okay, I know what it's like to
run around like a chicken without its head. That's what
it's like to be a liberal is running around after
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a chicken was slaughtered as the chicken. It's it's just
but Victoria understands that innately. She was wonderful guests and
you know, good stuff. It was really great to tell
to her. And you know that now that's premium content.
That's the kind of content I do want to see more.
You know what I meant show I want to go
to Hollywood. I mean, of course I don't want to
go there. I hate it, and I want to visit
there and pitch her show and say, hey, she needs
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a show, you know, not even worry about my own career. Well,
I wonder could you reach out to your contacts from
the Barney program. I'm not welcome to talk to those people.
You really kind of burn that bridge down. Huh. You
gotta make you gotta do something crazy. And again the
liberals they didn't understand that. What about Craig Mason. Do
we have any ends with Craig Mazin? Maybe we can
get a meeting with him in Victoria and say, listen,
do you think Chernobyl was gut wrenching fucking put a
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camera on this woman. See what happened? Yeah, see what happened.
It's something ludicrous will occur and you will like it.
Craig mazing, Well, thanks thanks for listening, and remember keep
dropping the sandpills above all else, keep thinking, keep thinking
figures
You're listening to The Man Thinker's podcast, a show that
forge is a new roadmap for the modern man on
how to best live life. I'm George Collins, a former
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cell we think, so you don't have to Dan, Did
you realize this is episode nineteen? No, I didn't know.
(00:23):
I didn't know that. I don't really keep up with
the show, so no, I know you've never listened to
a single episode, But I well, you know, I have
a lot of business ventures. You know, I speak. I
do a lot of speaking engagements, so you know, and
I know this is a big priority for you, But
for me, I've got other I take my work seriously.
I think I take pride in my work. You don't
take pride in anything in your life. But I have
so much past, so much more pride than you. I
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am more prideful, more proud of the things that I've done.
You're not even close. But you haven't les. I haven't done.
Have you done? I've been in law school twice. That's
how proud because you've failed out the first time. And
I got prouder and I was still proud. I failed,
and I was still proud. I love myself unconditionally. You
don't even love yourself that much. I'm working on self love.
That's one of the things that I work on in
my in my meditations. Listen, I think it's always good
(01:07):
to be working on yourself and expanding your comfort zone.
You've stayed within your At what point does do you
get good? At what point are you finally like okay,
I'm okay, because you seem you're going to go right
back into the gutter this once the show is done,
You're going right back. What are you talking about? You're
worried about season two? Right? Why do you think you're
sem a little worried about? You're going right back to
the gutter. Hey, don't say that. Okay, I've worked. I'm
(01:27):
gonna have to rescue You didn't rescue me, okay, if anything,
you put me in the gutter. To be honest, Love,
when those accusations started coming down the pike, granted, I
lost it because my name is connected to yours, and yeah,
I went on a bit of a bender. You didn't
do anything to get me out. You did everything to
put me in, and thank god I got out. But anyway, well,
I've just season two. I am a little worried about
season two because I don't know. I don't know if
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our podcast is actually like making any money, you know,
because I don't know if there's like the pills. It's
all about the sad pills. That's what the well real
buddy is real, but the pill money goes to you
and me. I don't know if I Heeart Media is
making any money off the pills. Although maybe we should
talk to the head who's the head of I Heart.
Maybe we should talk to them and say, hey, look,
we'll give you a cut on the sand pills and
keep us. It's not a name, is it I period
Heart or something like that, You mean, like the CEO
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I Heeart? No, I think it's the name of the company.
What are you talking about? Are you stupid? I'm just
guessing names. You needed us to guess names. That's my
first guests. First guest doesn't have to be a good guess. See,
that's the thing. You jump on things, You jump on
decisions before you even know what the truth is. And
the truth is this show has to be the most
popular show in at least America. It's not well I
need it to be because I know you Dot. We
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both we both got you have a late a lot
of money with these core cases, and I have been
fooled by too many fucking cults. I don't know how
many fucking gurus I've given money to, but I am
just drained. Dude, you could inflate numbers though, right, Like
I've here's the thing I'm trying to look into that.
I'm trying to look like, how do you lie about numbers?
How do you lie about numbers? Do you just do it?
I think I think you don't look back? Oh do
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it like well, yeah, like do it in a way
where the powers that be believe us. But does any
podcast make money? Like, let's just be there's any money
in any of this. I think everybody's kind of alliance,
probably because there's too many podcasts. I mean, you know,
like maybe there's just too many, Like maybe a bunch
of other people should just quit and just leave the
podcast content to us. You know what are you talking about?
That's just wishful thinking. I've heard a lot of people
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complain about this kind of stuff recently. Have you heard
about this content fatigue? Content fatigue and that brings me
to today's big question. Do all women wish they were
their own feces? Heure onto? Would children be safer if
everyone's stopped having Joe Biden be the first ghost press
washing your hands? Actually bad fire Onto House is so scary.
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Does the world need more content? More content? You're saying
there's not enough. I'm saying the world might need more,
does it? Well, I mean, okay, that's interesting because there
is kind of a lot. I mean when you think
about it. But that's what I'm worried about. People are
already getting fatigued, people talking about there's too much. I'm
so tired from all the content. First of all, that's
weak talk. That is a little yeah, you know, pull
(03:55):
yourself up by your bootstraps and start another episode. I mean,
it's not that hard to keep your eyes open like it.
Let's just be honest, like it's one of the easiest things.
It's not that hard to pay attention. Because here's the thing, judge,
some of these big corporations right now, you know Netflix
is we need these guys to grow for the economy.
Well now they're starting to shrink a little bit because
people are saying it's too much content. I used to
(04:15):
pay X amount for cable, do you. I can't believe
they got to be liberal the people that are saying
this stuff because they're whining, because they're anti growth, they're
anti economy, then we you know liberals are that. I mean, look,
when Netflix is producing hundreds of shows that no one watches,
that means our country is doing great. That means the
economy is growing. It means people are working, it means
there's jobs. It's supposed to be or showing bad stories.
(04:38):
That's what I want. That's it should well, it should
just be there because look, we know we've got wars coming,
big ones, and it's not just going to be fought
on the battlefield. It's going to be fought with the culture,
and the culture comes from content. It's gonna be fought
on your Roku. It's gonna be fought on your Apple one,
It's gonna be fought on your Netflix player. Guys, that's
where the real war is. That's where the trenches are.
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Think about the next generation. What's going to happen to
the next generation if they don't have enough content? Could
you imagine that? And they say, and I read this somewhere,
I don't remember where I read it. But they say
in two generations from now, there won't be enough content
if we don't continue to make content. Are you sure
not confusing that with the birthrate or something like that,
there's like not a replacement. Yeah, no, no, but they're saying,
(05:19):
they're saying it. I'm just saying what they're saying, you know,
but I'm saying, are you confusing the content replacement theory
with like the birthrate thing? Because I've heard the thing
about we actually need more humans to be born because
the population will go into decline because the content too.
Probably that doesn't really kind of track for me, But
that's right. I will say, though, Dan, one thing to
kind of keep in mind, just to push back, because
you know, that's what we do. It's a dialogue, right,
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this is our show. Is there such a thing as unplugging,
you know, kind of detoxing from the screens, from the algoes,
from the socials, from the content. Just take a breather,
because like maybe there is something to Hey, let's take
a break and come back stronger. For example, Jan, remember
when you were using the fleshlight every time that you masturbated,
and you kind of became addicted to it. And then
after some time went by, you couldn't use your hand
(06:03):
anymore because you needed to put your penis inside of
a rubber contraption. Why are we order to be stimulated?
And then remember remember I threw it out for you.
And then after about a couple of months you said, hey,
you know, my dick's working again, and I said, you're welcome.
So maybe it's a slack first of all. First of all,
we're bringing some things that are out of context here,
and it's for what this has no bearing on. Well,
I'm just saying what we're talking about right here. I'm
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just saying it's it's similar to your situation with your penis,
your master. We're talking about that. I just start talking
about that. That's the first thing that came to your mom.
You destroyed your penis with that flashlight, with that device,
almost rendered you a penisless man. And I swooped in
and I said no more, and I threw this thing out.
So you did not swoop contacted fleshlight. I said, don't
let Dan filkistein order anymore. All right, Um, we're going
(06:46):
to need more content if we're going to have more people.
But for example, Dan have you ever run into the
situation where you know it's late at night, you're home
alone as you always are, and you turn on Netflix
or Hulu and you're just like bombarded with so many options.
You go, I don't even know what to watch, and
then you just trying to team enough. It's not enough.
Right now, we're America and we want to lead the world.
And you can't lead the world if you have places
like Netflix, if you have places like Hulu cutting back
(07:09):
saying hey, we're not going to produce as much content
for the people. What are the people going to do
once they run out? And if even if you're a
big listener of our podcast, which we appreciate, go back
and listen again, what are you doing? Play it on
two devices at the same time and mute one of them.
That's great, Yes, yeah, that would be really good actually,
because that will help our numbers. I know it's all
about the numbers. And we're losing, and America is losing.
(07:30):
If we're losing, America is losing. If I'm not doing well,
if I'm not thriving, I'm really worried about the country.
You know, we should talk to iHeart about maybe trying
to get Hulu buy our podcast. That would be excellent.
Is that how it works? You just go and say, hey,
can you buy this? Haven't you pitched before you were
a Hollywood writer, You haven't pitched a show before. Oh yeah,
I've pitched. I've pitched the show. But I didn't know
that you can just be like, hey, here's a podcast,
(07:50):
buy it. I amdbat you recently and I actually saw
that you wrote on that children's show or something about
that Barney. Were you a staff on Barney for like
half a season? Just? Yeah, it was half a season
and it didn't it didn't work out. There were some
creative differences. So obviously that means that I am a
good screenwriter. I am successful because I have written for television.
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That was a long time ago. But it was a kid,
you know, I was a kid savant. I was. I
was you know, I was so young when I went
to law school, and I was so young when I
was a TV writer. I was a kid um And
that's that was a problem. They kind of hired you
because you were just such a child mentally, And why
did it? Why only half a season? What happened? Creative
differences meaning what would you want to turn Barney into
(08:33):
something it wasn't. I'm saying I was trying to write
good stories, quality stories that need to be told that
all of America kind of appreciate, and Barney, you know,
they want to talk about the same shit every week. Well,
I'm sure at the time it felt right. That being
your biggest credit, you know, for the last decade and
a half, seems like a bit of a tragedy. Feel
like maybe you shot yourself on the foot there but
burned a few bridges. You don't understand him down, Anya, Yeah,
(08:55):
would have burned him down anyway. You don't understand the business,
so no reason to keep talking about it. Or you
can keep trying, but you're not making sense. You sound crazy. Guys.
What a great show today. Fantastic show, great interviewer Victoria Jackson, beautiful, hilarious, kind,
all the things, so much funnier than anyone. She knows
what's funny, she knows what is morally correct a thousand percent.
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Can I just say she's a joy to be around.
I mean, she was so much fun to talk to.
Great attitude. You won't be able to see it, thinkers,
because you're listening, but amazing, it's not anything quirky cool,
and she's they don't. She's like the female Kevin Sorboll.
You want to talk about Zena Warrior Princess. Victoria Jackson
is the real Zena. I'm going to write a screenplay
for them. You know, we should talk about a new Bible.
Oh shit, did we even talk to her about that?
(09:38):
She'd have been excellent. Who's keeping track of the stuff? Clay? Hey, Clay,
are you keeping track of the stuff or what? Yeah?
What is Clay's deal? I just the guy. Did you
know he went to Thailand recently? Like? What are you
doing well? Thailand? He's talking? We talked about We talked
about Thailand in this episode. That's true. Well you've been
many times because you like, I mean, I don't know
what kind of kinky weird over there, but it's important
(09:59):
to me to witnes us what is out there? And
so if I hear about, you know, some kind of
rotten show with rotten morals, I find that it's important
for me to sort of study it. So you consider
the weird sex shows that you go to Thailand to consume,
you consider that content. It is absolutely so, guys, stick
around for Victoria Jackson interview coming up right after these ads,
(10:20):
and listen. I'm just gonna apologize for these ads ahead
of time, because, like I said, our numbers are crappy,
and when you get crappy numbers, you get crappy ads, guys,
and that's your fault. Yea, yeah, I don't know what
else to tell you. I'm worried about America. Absolutely you
will be too after you hear these ads, So check
it out, guys. Our guest today is a former Saturday
(10:43):
Night Live cast member when the show was actually good.
Not sure if you've been paying attention, but it's very
bad now, and is an expert ukulele player and a
self described conservative Christian. Victoria Jackson Victoria, thank you so
much for being on Man Thinkers, George and Dan. I'm
honored to be here because I love men, and I'm
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still allowed. Are white men still allowed in this country?
You know? Sometimes, you know, we have a tough time
at customs. Do men ever come to you and say,
I don't even know how to be a man anymore.
I feel like I'm not allowed to be well. Sometimes
I tell people that the white man invented everything, and
then people get really mad at me. Oh wow, Yeah, yeah,
but think of all the things that the white man
invented is kind of amazing. Can you give us a
(11:25):
couple of examples. What are some good white you know inventions? Okay, airplane, car, universe,
English language, those are good. I love cars and planes
and I love speaking English. Yeah, well the whole world
is actually but I digress. I was going to tell
you something and I forgot. That's okay, that's okay. You know.
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I don't know if you know this, Victoria, but I
was a screenwriter and I couldn't get hired. And I
say it's because I was a white man. You know what.
I lost my agent when I started to be served
in twenty ten. My agent at APA said, you can't
send me on stand up gigs anymore because all the
clubs are owned by liberals. And then when I said
two boys should I be kissing on the show Glee?
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My agent in Atlanta at the People's Store dumped me.
So I understand, Well, I have a couple of follow
ups there, because it sounds like you said you started
being a Christian in two thy ten? Is that correct? No? No,
I became a Christian at six years old. I was
raised a Baptist Church, and when I was six, I
learned to read and I was like, I got what
the preacher was saying. I was like, oh, John three
(12:33):
sixteen Eternal Life. Oh I want that, sure good stuff. Finkelstein,
are you Jewish? I am believe it? Use it to
my all day. Oh my god. You would think you
would offers in Hollywood for his screenwriting. Exactly. You would
think that. And that's the worst part about it is,
I say that to my Jewish brethren, why not take
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advantage of the nepotism here. You know, we have the
same ancestry, So just give me a job. Sure I
identify as Jewish, it'll so it helps me in a
lot of situations to you know, to use religious freedom.
But in general I kind of don't like Jews that much.
You know. Again, when it helps me, it's fantastic. I
love je I'm married. My first husband was Jewish and
a fire leader. He was he ate fire, real cool.
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Jews don't kill lambs and sheep for their sins anymore.
For blood sacrifice. Without the shedding of blood, there's no
remission of sins. Because Jesus was the ultimate lamb, and
he and the temple veil ripped the Holy of Holies.
A wee can directly talk to God now because the
lamb died pressed right right, and the thing about kosher
and all that and circumcision. God just to do that,
(13:39):
because that that's smart. It keeps you healthy. God was
looking out. God was obsessed with circumcision in the Old Testament.
He loved it. I mean, that's how that was the Covenant.
He said, hey, you want to make a deal, you
better snip the tip. He wasn't obsessed, Well, he did
a lot. Come on, there were a lot of scores.
Does a lot always say he's obsessed with circumcision. And
it's a bit much. I'm saying in terms of testaments,
you got to one of them's got a lot of
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circumcision stories. The other one not so much. Well, you know,
he can exaggerate because comedy is exaggeration. Now, I'd like
to explain to you why I'm wearing this funny out. Yes,
this is so funny, you're gonna die, Okay, tonight, I
have volunteered for the Moms for Liberty to read porn
in a church. Holy smokes, Now that sounds like a sin.
(14:23):
Let's can we flush this out a little bit. Who
are the moms for liberty? And why are they reading
porn in a church? Because we have discovered that in
the public school libraries there is wolke porn and the
parents don't know because the parents don't go into the
school libraries very much. And some of the textbooks have
nuded have you know, man on man, girl on girl,
(14:43):
how to masturbate, And we don't think it's appropriate for
young kids to read or see that. I think it
will take their innocence away. They actually have a book
in the Columbia Library in the eleven year old section
that has a picture of how to do soft to
me well, a picture of an us, a picture of
a penis erect tips on how to do it, how
(15:06):
to douche in the children's section eleven twelve year olds.
What book is this? It's called I Wish I had
him here. Um, it's an odd book to write for
a child. How to douche, To douche your anus so
that it's clean before you penetrate. I'm serious. This is
for eleven and twelve year old. So I was thinking,
is it wrong to have kinky sex if you're married?
(15:27):
And then in the middle of the night because everything's
allowed in the marital bed. Woke up in the middle
of the night and I like this sodom and gom
God does not like me. No wait, wait, wait, you
scream that you woke up in scream. If I had
a penny for every time I've woken up in the
middle of the night screaming sodom and gomora, let me
(15:49):
tell you, I would be a rich rich man. Rich man.
It's only happened to me once. Okay, well, hopefully it
starts happening more now, Victoria, real quick though, because I
don't I don't so the pornography at the library reading,
Why does that induce this specific outfit. You just wanted
to wear something crazy because you were going to do
something crazy. That's a great question. Thank you, George, thank you.
You're welcome. We're also comment on the drag Queen story Hour.
(16:13):
I'm dressed up like mother Goose. We're gonna make its
story time with Victoria, and you're going to think that
I'm going to read something sweet and innocent to the children,
and then I'm going to be reading these books that stuff.
This is how to you know, dochhre anus when you
want to have mail on you know, penetricstory. I'm just
(16:35):
getting a little confused because I'm on one hand, I'm thinking, yes,
this is a great protest. On the other hand, it
sounds like you're also just reading pornography in the church,
which is similar to the drag Story Hour. But they
actually just read kids stories, don't they. And again I'm
against them. I can't stand drag queens. Yeah, but I'm sorry.
I was just I was getting the mixed messages there. Well, yeah,
it does seem wrong to read it out loud. But
(16:57):
the problem the team we're trying to do is make
a point and if the adult uncomfortable, then maybe go
wake up and go, oh wait a minute, maybe they'll
have a sodom and go mora epiphany at three in
the morning. Because it seems like what you're trying to do,
it's like the drag queens. You know, they're dressed like
very wild, but then when they read it's children's stories,
it's just a normal children story. But where you're doing
(17:18):
is you're dressing right, like, hey, this is a sweet
story time think, But then when I'm reading is nuts, right,
So it's kind of flipping the script on them. It's like, actually,
I'm sending a bad signal here, whereas they're just doing
normal stuff, but they look crazy. That's good, that seems good. Yeah, yeah,
that's I mean, some of you know, I can't stand
some of these drag queens. So I've started to watch
some drag stuff, and again I hate it. These people
(17:39):
that do this, though, are very talented, which which surprised me.
I don't know if you've ever seen any of it, Victoria,
but they're the way they do the makeup and stuff.
You can't believe that it's a man. It's really why.
Actually I was doing stand up one day about a
year ago, and I actually opened for a drag show
with that. Didn't know. I didn't know. Sometimes they're so convincing.
(18:01):
That's the problem. Did you kill the audience? Love you?
I knew they were men. I didn't know that I
was open for a drag shell. If you want to
do that, go to Thailand, where it's lawless and people
are free to do what they want, whereas here we
have laws that's say, well not yet, but we have
some laws that are like, you're not supposed to do that,
you know what I mean? Victoria. Dan is constantly talking
about Thailand. I think he loves Thailand. I think because
(18:23):
you could do what I want. I don't, and I
don't want to know why he's gone. You know what
I'm saying, Victoria, because I don't know what he's doing
over there. They're just saying, you know about the world, okay.
In the same way, Victoria, with some weird stuff out
in Thailand, I just want to be on I protest
Thailand by saying I want to see what's out there.
I want to see the ping pong ball shows, I
want to see the lady boys because I know I'm
not gonna like it. So you travel halfway across the
world just to see something you know you're not gonna like.
(18:44):
I don't buy it. But anyway more than halfway, buddy,
you think you just got a good point in because
you proved that it's more halfway. What are you google
maps over here? You got you got me on the distances.
I'll give you that, Dan, But I got you on
sexual interest, Victoria. No, no, no, it's a protest. Go ahead,
I doing. Why do you think SNL is so bad? Now?
What was the question? George just asked me? So my
question was when you were on SNL. It was so funny.
(19:06):
You were so funny. And now you know, I've watched
this soow recently and it just bores me. I mean,
why do you think that is? Why has the show
gotten so bad over the years. My theory is that
it started out seventy five as rebellious, like you know,
the hippies are running the studio. They were always the rebels.
So as time went by and second law off thermodynamics
(19:27):
says the world is in a state of entropy. I
means everything's getting worse. It was scientific physics, fat getting worse.
Everything's getting worse, you know thaning the you know, the
universe one was good and that's a great show. So
if you're the rebellious one in the seventies, then the
eighties you got to be more rebellious than the nineties.
You got to be more bellies. So they became so
(19:48):
left that they're as propaganda now and it's not funny anymore.
When Obama was the president, they wouldn't make fun of them.
They wouldn't touch him, they would not say that sometimes
they're funny. That whale sketch. It was funny when they
had witty Harrelson be the hippo and making fun of
the movie The Whale for Funny two weeks ago. Sometimes
(20:09):
it's great, I mean the Victoria. Sometimes I do. Um, yeah,
do you have Do you still have a relationship with
Lauren Michaels. Is he still a friend of yours? Well?
He was never my friend. And as I watched Dana
and David Spade new podcast, I realized Laura wasn't friends
with anyone. I think that he's like the Prince by
(20:31):
Marcia Velli when it says you rule by fear or love.
He rules by fear. So he's a sociate, but it
seems to be he's a sociopathic person. Has always seemed
like from the outside, you're always like walking on eggshells
kind of thing. It sounds like a fun place to be.
That's kind of how I tried to and you know,
and not to say that it's a comforting way of
being a boss, but it is effective. Is to always
(20:52):
keep your employees on your toes and that's unfortunately for
the people who work for us. That's how I tried
it to treat them, and I learned that from Lauren Michaels. Well,
I think what Lauren it was make it survival of
the fittest, so he brought the best out of us.
Have you ever considered you were talking before about you know,
(21:12):
you said a few things. Your agent didn't like what
you had to say. Have you ever considered being, you know,
a little bit more selective about what you say publicly,
you know, so you could be you say, okay, yeah,
you know, I like everybody. Everybody's fine, but then privately
you're a little like, you know, I don't believe any
of this stuff. Just so you could keep working. That's
a great, great, great question slash statement. I'll tell you
(21:34):
the reason I spoke out. First of all, Jesus said,
going to all the world and preach the gospel to
the jew first, and also to the Greek, the two
main types of people, but also to us. George respect
are you Jewish? George, I'm never Jewish, but he's Greek.
I am Greek, and I am unfortunately uncut. I wish
I had been circumcised, but I but I wasn't unfortunatege
(21:55):
also mentions that every episode I do, I try to
get it in there just so people know. It's like
a scarlet letter that I wear, but instead of my face,
it's on my penis. But anyway, Victoria, you were saying,
I didn't mean to interrupt you. You could do it
now because they have really good drugs. You could get
the Michael Jackson drug, which I had when I had
done to me when I cancer. You get the Michael
Jackson drug. Is that what is called? It's just and
(22:17):
this doesn't want It knocks you out, or the one
that he died from. It makes you knocks you out.
When you wake up you're super happy. So cool. You
can get decision under that drug and when you wake
up you'd be super happy. But great, George, and you
could use that. That would be I could be I
could use more happiness in my life. But sorry, Victoria,
we interrupted you to talk about my penis. But I
didn't mean to do that. What were what were you
(22:38):
talking about? Okay? So when I spoke thought about Glee,
I was feeling really bad for this generation whose innocence
is being stolen. If they only watch Netflix and TV
and they're in their in their phones, they're gonna think
left left communist porn. Left left communist porn, I think
is first of all, that should be on a T shirt.
It should honestly be the motto of our podcast Left
Left Communist, Left Communist Porn. That's how you should start
(23:00):
your book reading tonight. Well, that brings me to my
next question, because you're talking about entropy and evil prevailing.
I think God let's evil prevail. Sometimes. I think God
like thinking. So I like your show because you're thinking,
and God would like that because he's all about free
will anyway. Yeah, I always say God's all about having choice.
(23:22):
You make the choices, and you should have the freedom
to do that. Not when it comes to like abortion
or something like that, but in terms of just more
like the choices. You know, you're data dad, choice of life. Yeah, exactly, Well,
abortion too, and the babies, I believe quot to heaven
and the mothers can be forgiven because the Bible says
you can be forgiven for everything already wins, which is nice.
(23:43):
That's that's one thing. Look, I don't like abortion, but
that's one thing I like about it is that in
the end everybody kind of wins. Well victory. You seem
very knowledgeable with scientific ideas and whatnot. Back to the
law of entropy. So the second law of entropy you
said was everything's getting worse. So the world's getting worse
all the time? Is that correct? Well, everything to kys
and falls apart, our bodies fall apart. Okay, So so
(24:04):
that does that imply then that like now is the
worst time to be alive, Like was thousands of years
ago a better time to live? Because like the world's
just getting worse. That's a good question. The Bible says
that the times will be end, times will be getting worse.
That's a great that's also just an interesting point, George
of just you know, so that means cavemen, Well, are
(24:26):
there cavemen in the Bible? I forget if their cavemen
in the Bible, but cavemen were having a good old time.
It is kind of the idea there, which is an
interesting scientific thesis. There's no hypothesis. There's no man in
the Bible there. It starts with and yeah, we're not
from monkeys, for one, Yeah, right, a Victoria, back me
up on this. If we're for monkeys, why are there
still monkeys? Right? Why didn't all the monkeys become humans?
(24:48):
You know what I mean? Like, why aren't the monkeys
talking and the monkeys talk about sodamy? Have you ever
seen monkeys at the zoo, those guys, those are there
at a lot of monkeys look human. I agree. A
lot of fruit and vegetables look like sex organs, and
I always do you think of it? Yeah, whenever I'm
in the produce aisle, penis, penis vagina, balls, ass falls.
(25:08):
It's crazy, Victoria. This kind of goes back to what
you were talking about with drag Queen storytime. But I
have read that in some circles you have become a
bit of a gay icon because of your style and
the way you have meant right now, that's cool, yes,
So how does that make you? Does that make you
feel powerful? Because they are rooting for you even though
you're rooting against them. I'm not rooting against them. My
(25:31):
best friend is Beckett Cook, and he was a gay
lifestyle for his whole life until twelve years ago, and
he met Jesus and he's been set a bit twelve
years and he's he has left the gay lifestyle. He's
super handsome and he's super smart, like he lost his
career for Jesus. Actually, I feel like if most gay
people knew that they could lose their career and never
(25:52):
have sex again, they would sign right up. What about zombies?
You know, because I was thinking, on one hand, okay,
they're part of like liberal media. But then on the
other hand, I'm thinking, well, Jesus was kind of a zombie,
right he was resurrected, so he's probably a zombie at
that point. So cro zombies are anti zombies. No. First
of all, I hate zombies. They're so ugly to look at.
And number two, Jesus was not that. Jesus didn't come
(26:13):
out of the grave with death all over him. He
was a living, breathing person. But here's the thing. I
just got asked to be in a zombie movie. Wow.
But I told the guy I hate zombies. I don't
want to be in it, and he goes, well, I
don't want you. I want you to be playing the
ukule aliens singing while the zombies walking by. I'm like, whatever,
do you think you could write something like a man
(26:34):
Thinkers theme song, because we don't actually have one right now.
Man Thinkers with George and Dan man Thinkers, they think
all they can and they shared when you man thinkers,
I'm gonna have to work on this store a little
whow because I yeah, I got that was good. Pretty
(26:59):
good and I will be using it like the second
or I like the hard cutout. Let's just stop boom
song over, we don't care. That was great. George okay,
Man Thinkers, Man Thinkers, man thingers with George and that's it.
That was good. That was good. I don't like that
Dan got a longer. I feel like you said his
(27:21):
name for I like the way that sounds too just
to emphasize, because that's why most people are listening to
it with George shoe that feels a little too long
to me. I would cut it. That was perfect with
George and Dan. I love that. That was perfect. Thank you,
and then it just kind of blends into letters sing
(27:41):
it that would be great, thanks to I'm sorry, I
was just trying to listen to the good part of
the song. Je cut it. That would cut that and
Dan beautiful. I gotta say I'm not a huge fan.
I was not a huge fan the direction. Yes, we're
(28:04):
just like Beyonce Victoria. Thank you so much for being
on Man Thinkers giving us all that insight. Was fantastic interview.
And good luck with the zombie short and good luck tonight,
good luck reading the woke porn. Thank you what a
lovely lady. Fantastic I mean, I love the music. But
you know what something I learned is she's a fighter.
(28:25):
I mean I love to check in with her and
see how that reading went. Because to read very graphic
pornography to children in the library, that just seems what
a flex I mean, what in the church? Church? The
church as a protest I love how confusing it is.
You know, liberals are all gonna be like, wait, why
does this equate, like why does a drag show or
(28:49):
a drag star reading the kids regular books? Because they
don't read weird books to kids. They just read. Tried
to point that out. I don't know if I made
it clear. I tried to point that out. Churder An
interviews very strange reaction to the drag I'm going to
go to a church to protest by reading pornography, which
I don't even know what that means. Which is so
(29:09):
and you know, you know, liberals are going to be
saying that I don't even understand what this means. What
is she trying to prove? And I'm not quite sure
what she is trying to prove. But what I am
sure about is it's a hell of a move, and
and that's what liberals is they exactly, it's it's a swing, guys,
doesn't have to make rational sense. It just has to
be a big swing. And that's what we're all about
over here on the right side of the aisle. Right,
(29:31):
just do something big and crazy, do something insane and
then let people let liberals freak out about it and
laugh at them when they do. It's like, can have
a little fun and be smart and just shut up. Exactly,
have fun, be smart, and shut up. Guys. I came
from that world. Okay, I know what it's like to
run around like a chicken without its head. That's what
it's like to be a liberal is running around after
(29:51):
a chicken was slaughtered as the chicken. It's it's just
but Victoria understands that innately. She was wonderful guests and
you know, good stuff. It was really great to tell
to her. And you know that now that's premium content.
That's the kind of content I do want to see more.
You know what I meant show I want to go
to Hollywood. I mean, of course I don't want to
go there. I hate it, and I want to visit
there and pitch her show and say, hey, she needs
(30:14):
a show, you know, not even worry about my own career. Well,
I wonder could you reach out to your contacts from
the Barney program. I'm not welcome to talk to those people.
You really kind of burn that bridge down. Huh. You
gotta make you gotta do something crazy. And again the
liberals they didn't understand that. What about Craig Mason. Do
we have any ends with Craig Mazin? Maybe we can
get a meeting with him in Victoria and say, listen,
do you think Chernobyl was gut wrenching fucking put a
(30:34):
camera on this woman. See what happened? Yeah, see what happened.
It's something ludicrous will occur and you will like it.
Craig mazing, Well, thanks thanks for listening, and remember keep
dropping the sandpills above all else, keep thinking, keep thinking
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