October 25, 2023 • 42 mins
Tyrese talks with elite NBA trainers Chris Johnson and Corey Smith about the inside secrets to creating NBA level workouts, the time Rajon Rondo made Tyrese walk out, and trying to beat LeBron James to the gym.
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Tyrese Maxie.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
He's on fire. What's up, y'all? Is Tyrese Maxie here
back with another episode of Maxie on the Mic. We're
gonna do something different this week. We have some of
the best master trainers in basketball, if not the best,
two family members of mine. Now we'll start with the
(00:37):
o G. Chris Johnson. Everybody knows him, great dude, great
master trainer, and then just a better person overall. And
then his protege, my my big bro, Cory Smith, who's
also you know, is coming into his own and able
to take everything that he's learned from the O G
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and apply his own twist to it. And it's been great.
It's been great. So I want oj, I want you
to say what's up and tell people who you are
really fast, and I'll get into Corey as well.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Okay, appreciate you team having and so on. And Chris Johnson,
NBA Master trainer. I got over twenty years in the industry,
and you know, me being a trainer, I take the
other word trainer out. I normally put teacher in and
you know, having pride in teaching, developing and helping people
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build out the way they see themselves as a basketball
player or as young men in life, and so that's
what I do.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
That's me. I'm here. I'm excited to be with my
boy T Max. Appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
O G appreciate it all right, Corey, let's say lord,
let's hear what you got Corey allR.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
My name is Corey smith Man and I've been in
the game for about five or six years now, and
the best part about it is letting it be a trainer.
I got to learn with Tyrese as my very first
pre draft and so since then, I've been rocking with T.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I've been rocking with OG. I've been knowing Og my
whole entire.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Life, probably since I was eight years old, so and
it's been an amazing process.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I was just learning from both of them as well.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Love to hear. Just make sure when we get off
this podcast. Man couldn't even couldn't even join the thing
that I having technical difficulties, but no, I really want
to start off like man one, just saying thank y'all. Man,
I appreciate y'all because you know it's funny I signed
with Clutch and y'all know how rich is. It's during
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COVID too, So like I'm out here in Dallas and
I'm working out with Tim. I loved him. I had
Tim on here before. I love Tim to death. He's
like one of the first dude that my dad actually
let train me without him coming to the gym or whatever.
He came still, but you know, he let him train whatever.
But so I'm out here working out with Tim. I'm
comfortable whatever. And I remember just getting a phone call
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from Rich. He was like, man, I want you to
come to LA and work out with Chris Johnson. And
I'm like, you know, I just feel comfortable here. I'm
good at And then you know, he kind of told me,
like many I get out your comfort zone. You know
you're going into a league that's going to be totally different,
you know what I mean. I want you to come
out here to LA. I know it's during COVID, but
I want you to come out into LA, work out
with Chris, work out with Corey, and just see the
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business out here in LA. Be out here in the limelight.
So when you get to the league, you won't be shocked.
You want there would be no surprises and you'll be prepared.
So I just krobably want to talk about you know
that that moment. I remember the first day of me
working out. We just did form shooting, and I'm like,
I'm looking at the list that they send me the
schedule that like, all right form shooting at I think
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we were starting at eleven. Back then, I'm like, form shooting,
am okay, cool, So we're just gonna do likes of
little shots. Man. I'm like, ten minutes to the form shooting,
I'm like, oh no, this ain't I'm going form shooting.
They trying to kill me. But I just want to
try to talk a little bit about that and just
like how y'all do things, because it's so different, the
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way y'all run stuff is so different. It changed my
entire mindset about working out, about creating the business, about
being my own person in my own brand. So I
kind of want you o G and then you Corey
talk about it.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So so t The funny part is, you know, Rich
had called me like a week before he said, hey,
you've seen tym Rege Max. I was like, yeah, I
like him. I like him a lot. He was like,
so start watching more film. I'm gonna I'm gonna get
him out here. And I told Corey because we had
some other guys starting, and I was like, I think
t Max gonna come out.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And with the COVID not knowing when.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
The draft would happen, it really allowed for us to
really truly build you out to where I wanted to.
And this is why I knew that you would become
who you are now quicker. And because you were in
the fire, your pre draft was so unique, and it's
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probably the it's probably the most unique free I've ever
had because the NBA players were not playing.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
The NBA players was training with you.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So when you were coming into the gym, you were
in the gym with Rajon Rondo, Lebron James. You know,
you're thinking about like d Wade, like these top people,
and that I get a chance to introduce you to.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
And that made it unique.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And then we started in May and you didn't get
drafted until December.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
So when you think about real development for the.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Young players that are out there watching, we were blessed
for COVID because it really gave us an opportunity to
prepare Tea not just for getting drafted, but for actually
contributing and being prepared for the moment the opportunity and
so the more I spent time with team. I knew
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he's a franchise player. He has the mindset, he has
the willingness, he has a desire, he has a commitment level.
We had t starting at eleven am. He found out
that Lebron and Run doing those guys was going at six,
he was like, OG, throw me in there. So then
now it showed me his commitment to Tour Days. So
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you know, we were going to wait a little bit
to build Tyrese into Tour Days, to get him adapted
to our training techniques and T I know when you
mentioned our training techniques, this is something I love to share.
So the one thing I learned about basketball is there's
no secrets in basketball. Tim Martin is one of my
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guys that I mentored, but he's one of my friends also.
So what makes me and Corey excited is that you
have Tim Martin as a developer trainer, you have me,
and you got Course. So you got three trainers that
are brothers. Not too many guys can say that we
got three trainers that work together and we're all committed
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to the mission of you becoming, to becoming the best
player that you can.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
And that, to me alone makes it so exciting.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
And so for you young trainers out there, there's no competition
and you don't own anybody. Your job is to be
a part of that life, to be a part of
their journey and to help them achieve the goals, the
things that are set out in front of them. And
Tyrese was just committed. I knew it right away, and
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I told Corey, I was like, Therese is special. And
every year you've done it over the last past four years,
you've shown how special you are. And it's only the beginning,
and it's only the beginning, but it's only a contribute
to the work ethic that you have to your father,
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your mother, your uncle, like the people that help build
your foundation from the beginning did an amazing job with you.
And so we're part of the t MAX group. We're
part of the whole family. Me and your dad have
come and say whole family. So that that makes it different.
So a lot of people like, what is it like
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training time. I'm like, terresis, we're family and and that's
how my concept of actually.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Developing players and Corey know this.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's about the longevity the long run. And you know,
our training techniques is we call some of the shadow boxing.
Some of it is mental, some is spiritual, some is connecting.
But it's not drills. It's not basketball that separates us.
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It's the mentality. It's the mental approach, is developing players
a system that they could take everywhere with them, and
that's what makes us different.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
That's that's well spoken. That's and I'm gonna touch on it, Cory.
Go but I'm gonna touch on a lot of stuff
you said, oh g because a lot of stuff. A
lot of stuff you said is some of the topics
that I want to talk about today. So go ahead,
Corey man O g said it all. Talking after him
is gonna be crazy. But like you said, it's a family.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
And so everything we did with t from the very
first day he came in. I remember the very first
day he came in too, and after his second workout,
I said, Tea, how you feel it? He said, bro
y'all tricked me, man, y'all told me this it is next.
You know, I feel like I feel like I'm about
to pass out and said, you're a soldier. And that
was the first day because I was working out by myself.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, and you're working.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Out by yourself.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
And so that day on, I knew he was gonna
be a soldier because actually I knew it after the
first ball Head Wednesday for a lot of people that
don't know Baldhead Wednesday especially especially my.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Favorite day for every day, and so you know, we
definitely get to.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Work on that day. But then that separates T from a.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Lot of the people I've been around is that his professionalism.
He's a professional on and off the court, and so
it's amazing to have the relationship with me. And what
makes our training different from a lot of other people
is that relationship factor. And it doesn't matter who's in
the gym. We treat everybody the same, everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Saying okay, there we go. And that's that's what I
was waiting on, because I was really just about to say.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, it don't matter if it's a high school kid,
middle school kid, or pro. We treat everybody saying, we
teach everybody the same system. And so that's why our
training and the way we treat people.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Our level is out this world. Yes, And I'm so
glad you said that. I was really just about to
talk about that because OG said, like you said, it's
hard talking about the OG. It's crazy that you brought
that up, because I was just about to talk about
the relationship that y'all build. Because everybody respects y'all because
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when you go in that gym, when you walk into
that side of that gym, you know, Okay, today, I'm
gonna want I need to be here on time and
probably early or I'm gonna hear it from OG and
I'm here from Corey. That's number one and two. I'm
gonna work today.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I'm gonna work.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I'm gonna it ain't gonna be no you know, lolly gagging.
I'm not about to be just going at my pace.
I respect y'all because it doesn't matter, like you say,
it don't matter who comes in there. I've seen Bron,
I've seen Roano, I've seen the way. I've seen it myself.
I seen I'm gonna go all the way down to uh,
y'all letting my little brother, Corey working out, my little
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brother this summer, and he working out just as hard
as you work me out, and it's like, you know,
like he just got so much better in this little
span of time, and I just like that's why I'm
saying it's a family oriented and just I love the
way that y'all do things, man. It just it changes
the way I looked at at working out, man, And
like even like working out in Dallas. Sometimes I love
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working out, you know till I love it. Tell my
guy that one of my best homies. But I feel
like I always had to come back at least at
least for a month, at least for a month and
a half and get my you know what I'm saying,
get that get that work in because who did man
one y'all always going to make sure we're in the
best shape of our lives. Whoever were working out, you know.
And it's like we talk about that COVID, that COVID
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year back before my pre draft, like going into training
camp I had, like you said, it was from May
to November, right, yeah. And the amount of times that
I came home was maybe once or twice. And that's
because I had to come home. I had to come
home once for my grandmother's funeral, and I had to
come home once for when they did the NBA Finals.
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I was on like the little halftime thing. The rest
of the time I was in l A. And when
I tell y'all, it wasn't. We didn't take no weeks off,
Like we just gonna take a week off, three days
every single day, Monday through Friday. And it's like, man,
I just really appreciate y'all because when I stepped into
the league, I was ready to contribute for you too.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
When you when the one thing have my brain worked?
He and this is funny.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Once I figured out your commitment, the barges keep raising
like it's crazy because I was like, Corey, he's gonna
be special and was like, how do you know? I said,
Watch watch his approach, Watch the way he's preparing for
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the fight. He's not result driven, he's processed driven. And
that's one of the number one things that we try
to get players that all ages to fall in love
with is just the process. And so that made it
so much fun. It makes me get up every day
and like, oh, I got one. And he allows me
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to coach him. He allows Corey to coach him. And
the one thing that's sometimes we lose and we forget
is we can't do it by ourselves. So you have
to you have to be able to receive information as
well as you give information.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And so it's so important.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
So those ingredients, the way you were raised, the way
your dad put the time in as your high school
coach and taught you how to play the game. It
prepared everything to the point to pass the torch off
to me and Cory. And that's what me and your
dad talked about it. Once he's seen what we did,
he was like, Chris, I'm out.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
And left the first time been without a pot. It's gone.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I'm gone. I'm out. He was like, Chris, I got it.
And I was like, we just passing the torch.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And that's the ultimate respect that you can get. That's
what I would want to do as a father like Isaiah.
Corey is Isaiah's trainer. Cory can tell you right now
and we're on the podcast and it's for all the
other guys in the world.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Corey, who's your client on this phone right now? Terry's Maxey.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Terry's Maxey, and so ty Reeves is my client. But Corey,
you got to build this with ty Re's. So I'm
developing Corey because Corey is the COO of just Who.
So this is this is our client together, this is
our brother. So Corey, what is your responsibility? And this
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is why having mentors are very important people that actually
can change your life. So when people say hey, Tyres,
I'm like, now that's Corey. Taste care of him. And
that's very important. And that's the teamwork that we create
is is that when you try to grow everyone around.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
You to become gray. And I think that makes it
so amazing to.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Right, Yep, I agree. And one thing I want to
touch on it's just come into my mind because it's
the first time I've ever been a part of it,
was the shadow boxing. I want to talk about that
because like, so you know, working on my dad, it's
just me and my dad in there, and then working
out with Tim, it's just me and Tim. So it
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was like we never really I never really had a
likes working out with defense. The entire workout, Like, no
matter what, no matter what you do, no matter what
I'm doing, it's Corey is always out there or whoever
we have is somebody always out there. And I want
I want you to go into a Corey because you
shadow box against everybody. Like I said, we go from
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Lebron all the way down to me, all the way
down to little Jordan all the way down to Isaiah.
Like you shadow boxing with everybody. So what did OG
teach you? I want you to talk to the people
about it. And when I say shadow boxing, y'all, I
talk about like when you're going through workout, you have
somebody defending you and somebody giving you real game looks
so glory. I want you to tell people about it
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because that's something that people don't know, and that's something
people think you playing token defense or whatever, but you're really,
you know, giving us a ris look. So I want
you to I want you to talk to them about that.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
So, so shadow boxing is literally, like you can almost say,
it's like one on one. But as a teacher, you
have to be able to put your player in the
right positions and show them exactly what you want them
to do. So as me Oras Chris, or as any
trinder that's trying to shadow box, you got to know
all three areas. You got to learn as a teacher.
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You got to learn at your offensive player, and you
got to know what the defensive player would do as well.
So sometimes it's cool if you, hey, you're trying to
play certain things, but at the end of the day,
what is the main point of emphasis that you're trying
to get that offensive player to learn. So when we're
shadow boxing, it's more so of hey, I got to
make sure he gets to this spot, but hey, let
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me make sure his ball place is in the right spot.
Let me try to reach here. Let me try to
teach him. Oh, hey, T, did you see where my
body was? Okay, the way my body is is how
you learn how to play. So when that live look happens,
now you know exactly how to fight. All I'm doing
is teaching players how to fight, teaching them Okay, if
I moved this way, are you just going to stand
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still or are you going to react? So our foundation
at just hoop and learning. How the shadow box is
read and react. Every dude is reading and reacting, and
so shadow boxing, that skill is from that.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
So of course let's.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Talk about how I came over with the concept of
shadow boxing. So T, it's a concept that I took
from boxing and me being a defensive coach. Everything that
I look at on the offensive end is predicated on
what the defense can do, and I looked at the approach.
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What boxers do. Boxers trained as a skill set. They
punch the bags, they do these different counters. They work
on these different punches, but the way that they really
get prepared for the fight is who they shadow box against.
So the shadow is somebody that is very skilled, understands
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their strength and weaknesses, understands how to put them in
position to become a better fighter. And so when I
looked at that, I was like, why don't we take
the same concept and applied in basketball to really teach
players how to actually be proactive, to be able to react,
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and to be able to make quick decisions as the
game is going. So true development happens in several stages.
The shadow boxing stage is the final stage.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
So imagine developing skills.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
You may not have a body on you because you
don't have the skill set the fight with, but as
you progress, if a guy bodies does this, you should
be able to do this and it should happen in
seconds and it should be natural. And so when I'm
watching watch YouTube social media, other trainers, trainers send me
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a lot of videos, other teachers and basketball coaches sending
a lot of videos, And the first thing I watch
is they're trying to mimic our shadow boxing, but it's
really not shadow boxing and really just kind of standing
in a way they're not actually in you know, the
proper shape. We're in great shape. We take care of
our bodies the same approach that our athletes got to have,
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right because we do it for fourteen fifteen hours a day,
you know. And so when I looked at shadow boxing,
I really and I got a book coming out about
shadow boxing. But shadow boxing is like our special ingredients
to take our players to the next level, because there's
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no way that you can actually learn and be prepared
unless you got a great partner in the shadow box.
And that's why Corey is phenomenal with you. And this
is the way I he Corey. Corey did a great
example of telling you the reasons why with shadow box.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
And I tell Corey this, I say, shadow boxing.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Requires you number one, to understand defensive positioning.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
That's number one.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Number two, you gotta be able to teach offense and
you gotta be able to demonstrate what reaction.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
So as a trainer, you got to be able to
see it.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
At full speed and see these three things happening to
really get the most. Now, Tee, when you begin your
shadow box and going into your rookie year, if I
go look at your finishing package and I go, look
at the way you finish on people and you hitting
them with runners, floaters, floaters off the glass level, threes
and people. You should hear the people talking like, wow,
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does he really have that? And I'm looking at Car
like they just don't. They just don't know because you committed.
You committed to it, though, and then when you have
games where you're breaking records and you know you're getting
in the paint and you're you're making the right reads
and you're making the right passes and you're playing the
game the right way, it all comes back to how
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we shout about you. And Corey knows how focused I
am or we have to take it very serious about
how we prepare our guys.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
For performance, and not just the performance aspect. Y'all prepared
guys for real life situations when they step into that facility.
Because the way y'all run it, Okay, so and so
coming here at six, okay, og and Corey and whoever
has to come in that day. What if y'all got
helping with y'all they there at five forty five, Okay, boom,
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we got I don't know, Troy Brown and Lonnie Walker
coming in at seven Okay, at we got to get
you in here at five fifty on the court, boom boom,
they ain't here at seven right after you. You're not wasting
nobody's time. You know. That's the thing that I love
about it. Like, you know what, you're gonna get your
work in, You're gonna work extremely hard, You're gonna get
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great work in, and then you're not gonna get your
time wasted. This this is sixty minutes of real action
pack work. There's no bs like and that's what I
love about it. Man, That's just one thing that I
just want to make it. And it's funny because Paul
Reid just came out there. Yeah, I was so happy
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been because I've been pushing I'm trying to get Jadis
Springing to come out there at least one work one
time before the season started, because like, these are my
these are my friends, my teammates. He's like, you know,
my brothers whatever, And I just know how well y'all do,
like with developing everybody, and this is the environment that
everybody is able to get better. Like you know what
I'm saying, shooting finishing, You know what I'm saying, You're
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not gonna put Per Read or Jadie Springer in a
position that they won't be in the game. You're gonna
make them game like reads. And that's what it's just.
Oh man, it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
You need those game reads team to help you.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
That's what the boxing is because once you're on the court,
you have to be a forward thinker, right, You got
to think forward and you got to think about things
that are happening before time. And that's where people say, well,
this player is a special player where you just got
a lot of reps and it's a lot of mental
reps and a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Team.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I'll give you credit. That is I was gonna get
a thousand makes out of your day. So during that
pre drast you you showed me this my toe cord.
I say, oh my god, he can shoot it. Not
that you could shoot it, but the thousand makes. Every
people that are saying you are making thousands outs today,
you know how hard it is to make a thousands
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out today?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
What Yeah, it takes two workouts.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
It takes two workouts. Imagine that that's all about to
say it takes too much outs and it doesn't matter
what goes on in the workout. You're gonna finish. You're
gonna begin that shooting those reps.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Get them in. You're gonna get him in, bro, you
can get him. You're tired.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
That's what it's been. Days while when I was about
before my rookie year and I came in from my lift,
like on Tuesday, you know, go heavy arms out there.
I came in, I'm like, yeah, my arms store like,
oh yeah, yeah, let's it's twenty five in the court.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I'm like all right whatever, But you know, like that's
why what you need though, you need that. I feel like,
you know, you need that. Somebody's gonna push you no
matter what. It's gonna make you fight through adversity. Because
when you get to the NBA, when you get to
the games, it's gonna be a birsity. I don't care
who you are. You have to go through diversity. And
if are you gonna hit that wall, are you gonna
bounce back the wall? Or you're gonna be able to
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run through that wall? And y'all are I feel like
y'all are preparing guys to be able to run through
the wall, whether it's NBA, college, high school. And you
know what I'm saying, Corey. Corey, you know your kids
as well. You know what I'm saying. Okay, so we
wanna take a quick break. I appreciate them, Chris and
Corey for being here. When we get back, I want
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to talk a little bit about me being able to
train and compete with Raja Rondo, a Hall of famer
in today's game. And also a funny story about training
with Lebron James at six a m. A story that
we will all never forget. And uh, you know, y'all
stay tuned and see us have to break. I got
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a couple more things for y'all, and I want to
start with I want to start one the Rondo story
about how he came my tail at ten o'clock to
bet me like nine. I'm just not a joke. And
you know, right on Ronald coming in on the back
end of his career, I think he may.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Have like what two years he had like two more years.
I think it was year fourteen for him.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, this is the year they wanted, they want the championship.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
They year fourteen.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
OG had been telling me, so I had been I
had been out in LA for maybe maybe a week
and a half, two weeks, you know, Og had been
telling me like, hey, man, Ronald gonna pull up on you.
He said he gonna kick your tailor. You know. He said,
you're not gonna be ready. And you know me and y'all,
y'all know how I am about competition. I'm like, I
ain't losing nobody, you know what I'm saying. Man, Rondo
(27:34):
came in there. I think we played one spot. Was like,
we're gonna play one spot. I'm like, one spot, all right,
I gotta get the spot. I think I may have
had the first bucket he had like eight straight. I'm like,
he's all right, you know, Rondo he talking trash the
whole time. Yeah, but like but like it was so
good for me, like I needed it, And did you
know I come back later on that one, and I'm like, man,
(27:57):
we're Rondo at and Og telling me like, n Rondo
work sif you want to if you want to get
your if you want to get your lick back with Rondo,
you come here at six o'clock in the morning. He
ain't coming back at ten. So I'm like, I remember
going to tell my uncle and my dad. I'm like,
I'm about to work out at six. I ain't no way,
I'm about to just let Rondo do me like that.
And then it's like ever since that day, like me
(28:18):
and Rondo cool, you know what I'm saying, Like you
know what I'm saying, like a big brother to me.
And it's like y'all being able to put people, put
players in that position to build those relationships. And you've
given me that opportunity, you, Corey, and then even Rondo
because he cool with you. You know what I'm saying,
y'all type, so he trusts you. You know, you're telling him, Hey,
(28:40):
look I got this young guy company. I want you
to come in teach him some stuff, but I want
you to come to kick his tail first, you know
what I'm saying, So to make him you know, know that, Okay,
he gotta do this, this, that and the third. So
like I really want to talk. I want you all
talk about a little bit about that OG.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah that's crazy because that's a part of my strategies team.
So over the twenty years stretch, one of my strate
and Corey knows the strategy now is the guys that
are built like you. I find my older veteran players
and I talked to them about, Hey, this guy is special.
(29:15):
What strategies can we give to him that can build
him and make him better? And everyone wants to see
other people be better and do things great. And after
I broke it down with with Rondo was like number one.
Both of y'all went to UK number two. This dude
is gonna be really good. Though, He's like, how good
(29:36):
is it? You know, all the old heads for all
you young people listen. They always want to know who's next,
And so he was like okay, he saying, and Rondo dirty,
so Rondo.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Rundo.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
When T was playing him and me and Corey laught
at all the time, he was stepping on T foot,
he elbow and T.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
And then it's my turn to get the ball. Corey
throve in the ball, Rono pulled my whole hip. Yeah yeah,
because I ain't that strong yet. I done slipped and
fell like yep my ball. I'm like wait what.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, so T so Corey, so T. This is this
is how you know you're a true competitor. T was
like hell no and left.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Hip the facts.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
He was like, nah, hell no, I ain't going for that.
You will fight, You will fight back, and that's what
me and though because I knew Doe was going to
teach you some things that other people are not willing
to teach you. And that's why it's so important to
have these guys around like run though, or like me
bringing in Derrek Fisher and Matt Bourne's and d Wade.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I'm surrounded. I've touched.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I can't even count how many players I've touched from NBA,
you're a league, CBA, you name the league. I've touched thousands, Bro.
So I always call them and say, hey, come and
get back to the community. Because it's not just me
that's the master teacher. Rondo actually learned things from you.
(31:20):
You motivated him because he's like, Okay, I still do
got room to get better. I still I can compete
at this level. So it's like when you have a
community of people helping each other, somebody is gaining something
from it and everybody's pouring into the pot. And so
you you locking in with Rondo showed me that. Okay,
(31:42):
so he can get up at five in the morning
and ever since. Then four years later, I know it
don't matter when, what time where he man gonna be there,
and he's gonna be early, and he's gonna be ready
and that alone is what.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
You want to learn.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
You want to face that adversity. We want to create
that adversity, and me and Rondo talk about it. We
send clips. So me and Rondo send clips to each
other all year long. T TV on the We'll be
watching and then we'll be like, Okay, we got to
get him some information. Then T Mac's dad or hit
me like yo, you talk to T and I'll be like, okay,
(32:24):
I need to talk to him. But we try to
give that room so T can make mistakes. So just
because we're part of the team, he got to make
his own mistakes and then he got to trust us
to come back to us and say, I made this mistake.
What's the ingredients for that? And I told Cory that,
(32:44):
I say T has to grow, but we grow with them.
And so for people out there that is knowing every
year T changes and gets better, we're gonna change with him.
When he goes from this level at the NBA to
year ten, We're not going to treat them like you're one.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
We're going to treat them like you're ten.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
And so that's what the relationships are all about, is
everybody has to grow in the relationship.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
You know, and then like now it's like when I
come into gym, you know, you we probably on communication early,
but now I can come in and say, look, oh,
g coy, what about what if you think about this
right here? What if we can put this guy right
here or they reguarded me like this, Let's try this
with what we got in there. And having that type
of relationship and that type of communication is key because
(33:31):
now I'm working with y'all, y'all working with me, and
now we're like one team. We're all getting better at it,
you know what I'm saying. But you know, I mean,
I appreciate y'all. I just always in these you know,
when I have people on and when I'm on, always
in these podcasts the same way. So I'm sorry I'm
putting you'll on the spot, but I want y'all both
to give me one thing that y'all thankful for in
(33:55):
the in the past week and one thing that y'all
want to get one percent better at in the upcoming week,
if that makes any sense. And because because OG has
been going first all day, you to go first today.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Man.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
So the first thing I want to say that I'm
blessed for this past week is man. I'm blessed to
have Og in my life, teaching me, teaching me through
things every day. I'm blessed to be able to work
with the players that work with every day, and I'm
blessed to have the people that I'm around every day,
because one thing I've learned is you can't take nothing
for granted. Anything can change in one moment, one minute,
(34:34):
or one second, and so just being able to live
in the moment and learn from the people and see
where you're actually at is truly blessing. And so I'm
just thankful for I want to say I'm thankful for OG.
I don't usually given compliments because he'd be cheating all
the time, but but I want to say thank you.
I want to say thank you for Og. And then
(34:57):
one thing I want to get better at is continue
to learn about the business side of things, and I
also want to be able to get better at communication.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
On the business side.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
I'm learning how to move a little bit, so that's
the next step for me, is learning how to communicate.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
That's pretty good, Cory, So for me, that's really good.
This week, I'm grateful for the commitment. And what I
mean by commitment, I look at my commitment to other
people and people commitment to themselves, and so I know
(35:37):
my purpose. My purpose is to educate, to equipped and
excel people. I'll say that again, educate equipped and excel people.
And that's my purpose. And so this week I'm so
grateful for the commitment and the state committed. And one
thing I want to get better at. I've really been exact,
(36:00):
so te you putting out with me on this one,
but I want to get better at asking questions. And
I'll tell you why. My brain is like a computer.
I register, I'm very focused on it. I study it,
I study people, I study things. I feel like I'm
(36:20):
mastered every piece of like basketball, relationships, how to treat people.
These are like very important things to me. But one
thing that when you master things, you have a lot
of information to give.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
We don't. I rarely ask questions right, and so.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I am making it a complete focus point for me
to get better at asking the right questions. And I
think that complete that will complete me in such a
way that makes me get better and that so those
are the two things that I want to get better
at asking questions, asking the right questions, and I'm grateful
(37:02):
for the commitment.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, no, I appreciate y'all man, from the bottom of
my heart. Man, I just as I sit here and
think about it and laugh, I'm thinking about last summer.
You said, hey man, Lebron said he gonna come in
and work out with you at six. It's all right, cool,
So y'all know me. I'm getting there early, but like,
always get there early, Lebron.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
He looked at me.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
He walking like, dang, man, what time you get here.
I'm like, man, I get about like five thirty five,
five forty. He said, all right, all right, bet I
come in the next day here a full sweat lifted.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
I was like, what are you? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
He said, No, I can't let you beat me to
the gymp you're working out folkto today? Noah, what the heck?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
And it's like, man, I'm just sitting here thinking about it,
like what that's crazy, right, that's just getting insane.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Like he's a living legend, bro. You gotta give respect
to him. He's the best to ever do it. You know,
when you got the best player in the world, you
always think about it. You look at it, you say Wow,
he averaged twenty nine point nine points a game. You know, people,
people don't appreciate how greatness until it's gone.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
And so my job is to approach Lebron.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
The way I approach t Max is to assume they
know nothing so that I don't miss any detail. So
that's how you make the best player in the world
better is I assume that he knows nothing because he's
coming to be a good student. And that's how you
contribute to him is giving him everything that you got
(38:41):
and not assuming that he knows it. And he's so
competitive that he did that to you because I told
Corey that, I said, times go short, and then I
was like, as soon as Braun figured it out, he
gonna beat up.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
To the gam I remember, because Rise he's like Couse,
Like yo, Cory, you're going have to get up there
and probably like for for for a team. Four thirty
Bron trying to lift. I said, huh, I said, Bron
trying to lift before the workout. I got there at
four thirty, kid. You Now, I look at my car.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
At thirty am. So people that know, Yeah, when I
looked at.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
My clock, I see I see a car coming in.
It's four thirty. I said, he come in, you know
what's up. I'm talking about four thirty. I'm talking about
every single day.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
It was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
You know what's even funny about it? This is for
other people. Corey was getting there early. Broun figured out what.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Time Corey was cool and beat him there and beat
him there. You're not gonna beat me.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I got to open up the gym. That just that
just popped into my head because that's that's just the
family aspect of But no, I appreciate y'all coming there.
Much love y'all. We're gonna toss the break now. Thank
you to og Chris Johnson and Corey Smith my big brother,
for being man much love y'all.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Man, I appreciate you having us only.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Thank you so much, you sir, all right, you know
how we always do it. At the end of MAXI
and the mic, first and foremost, I would like to
say thank y'all for the rates and descriptions and everybody watching,
(40:26):
all the feedback that I've been giving I've been getting.
It's been great. This is you know, this is a
really good deal, having a lot of fun with it,
and we're going to keep banging out these episodes for
y'all and keep adding on guests and making it really
cool and really unique and very special for y'all. But
as we always do it. You heard Christi and Corey's
(40:47):
how they want to get one percent better and how
what they're thankful for. Last week, what I'm thankful for
was safe travel. Safe travel. I was in LA during
the hurricane and the earth quake. So you know, I
have my best friend Chris with me. He never been
He's never been in a hurricane, never been an earthquake.
He was in both in LA. And it's funny we
(41:10):
talked about hurricanes. The hurricane in LA was really just
a normal day in Philly. It was just raining, It
was gloomy. You know what I'm saying. My Philly people,
y'all will understand what I'm talking about. We go through
that probably for about eight nine months, not like five
to six months. Is well, you know, we don't see
the sun, we have to take bodamin deep pills and
all that type of stuff. But I was grateful. I
(41:32):
was grateful for that, thankful and grateful for that because
you know, you just don't know what you're going to
get with a hurricane. Or earthquake. You know what I mean,
This my like third earthquake being my third earthquake in LA.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
So that was cool.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
We made it out of that and thankful for that.
But I want to get one percent better at this
upcoming week.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
My thing is I have done a really good job
the last three years with diet. I am finding a
news chef right now for into Philly, and I think
that's going to be great for me. Have a couple
of really good candidates. So one thing I'm gonna get
better at is communicating with my with my chefs about
like if you like something or not. So when I'm
(42:12):
saying it is to say communication is one thing I
want to work on because I have no problem with
telling people I don't like this, I don't like that,
but sometimes it's hard to do that, you know what
I'm saying, and still be how I explain it and
not try to come off as disrespectful because you're not
trying to be disrespectful, You're just trying to explain to them, hey,
(42:34):
maybe we could do this a different way. And I'm
gonna work on that. I like the entire world to
work on that, and uh yeah, that's what we do,
but uh like subscribe Max you and a mic on
all podcasts platforms. Shout out to our heart Radio. We'll
see y'all at the next episode. Peace Out,
Tyrese Maxie.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
He's on fire. What's up, y'all? Is Tyrese Maxie here
back with another episode of Maxie on the Mic. We're
gonna do something different this week. We have some of
the best master trainers in basketball, if not the best,
two family members of mine. Now we'll start with the
(00:37):
o G. Chris Johnson. Everybody knows him, great dude, great
master trainer, and then just a better person overall. And
then his protege, my my big bro, Cory Smith, who's
also you know, is coming into his own and able
to take everything that he's learned from the O G
(00:57):
and apply his own twist to it. And it's been great.
It's been great. So I want oj, I want you
to say what's up and tell people who you are
really fast, and I'll get into Corey as well.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Okay, appreciate you team having and so on. And Chris Johnson,
NBA Master trainer. I got over twenty years in the industry,
and you know, me being a trainer, I take the
other word trainer out. I normally put teacher in and
you know, having pride in teaching, developing and helping people
(01:30):
build out the way they see themselves as a basketball
player or as young men in life, and so that's
what I do.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
That's me. I'm here. I'm excited to be with my
boy T Max. Appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
O G appreciate it all right, Corey, let's say lord,
let's hear what you got Corey allR.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
My name is Corey smith Man and I've been in
the game for about five or six years now, and
the best part about it is letting it be a trainer.
I got to learn with Tyrese as my very first
pre draft and so since then, I've been rocking with T.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I've been rocking with OG. I've been knowing Og my
whole entire.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Life, probably since I was eight years old, so and
it's been an amazing process.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I was just learning from both of them as well.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Love to hear. Just make sure when we get off
this podcast. Man couldn't even couldn't even join the thing
that I having technical difficulties, but no, I really want
to start off like man one, just saying thank y'all. Man,
I appreciate y'all because you know it's funny I signed
with Clutch and y'all know how rich is. It's during
(02:31):
COVID too, So like I'm out here in Dallas and
I'm working out with Tim. I loved him. I had
Tim on here before. I love Tim to death. He's
like one of the first dude that my dad actually
let train me without him coming to the gym or whatever.
He came still, but you know, he let him train whatever.
But so I'm out here working out with Tim. I'm
comfortable whatever. And I remember just getting a phone call
(02:53):
from Rich. He was like, man, I want you to
come to LA and work out with Chris Johnson. And
I'm like, you know, I just feel comfortable here. I'm
good at And then you know, he kind of told me,
like many I get out your comfort zone. You know
you're going into a league that's going to be totally different,
you know what I mean. I want you to come
out here to LA. I know it's during COVID, but
I want you to come out into LA, work out
with Chris, work out with Corey, and just see the
(03:15):
business out here in LA. Be out here in the limelight.
So when you get to the league, you won't be shocked.
You want there would be no surprises and you'll be prepared.
So I just krobably want to talk about you know
that that moment. I remember the first day of me
working out. We just did form shooting, and I'm like,
I'm looking at the list that they send me the
schedule that like, all right form shooting at I think
(03:36):
we were starting at eleven. Back then, I'm like, form shooting,
am okay, cool, So we're just gonna do likes of
little shots. Man. I'm like, ten minutes to the form shooting,
I'm like, oh no, this ain't I'm going form shooting.
They trying to kill me. But I just want to
try to talk a little bit about that and just
like how y'all do things, because it's so different, the
(03:58):
way y'all run stuff is so different. It changed my
entire mindset about working out, about creating the business, about
being my own person in my own brand. So I
kind of want you o G and then you Corey
talk about it.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So so t The funny part is, you know, Rich
had called me like a week before he said, hey,
you've seen tym Rege Max. I was like, yeah, I
like him. I like him a lot. He was like,
so start watching more film. I'm gonna I'm gonna get
him out here. And I told Corey because we had
some other guys starting, and I was like, I think
t Max gonna come out.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And with the COVID not knowing when.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
The draft would happen, it really allowed for us to
really truly build you out to where I wanted to.
And this is why I knew that you would become
who you are now quicker. And because you were in
the fire, your pre draft was so unique, and it's
(04:57):
probably the it's probably the most unique free I've ever
had because the NBA players were not playing.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
The NBA players was training with you.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So when you were coming into the gym, you were
in the gym with Rajon Rondo, Lebron James. You know,
you're thinking about like d Wade, like these top people,
and that I get a chance to introduce you to.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
And that made it unique.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And then we started in May and you didn't get
drafted until December.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
So when you think about real development for the.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Young players that are out there watching, we were blessed
for COVID because it really gave us an opportunity to
prepare Tea not just for getting drafted, but for actually
contributing and being prepared for the moment the opportunity and
so the more I spent time with team. I knew
(05:56):
he's a franchise player. He has the mindset, he has
the willingness, he has a desire, he has a commitment level.
We had t starting at eleven am. He found out
that Lebron and Run doing those guys was going at six,
he was like, OG, throw me in there. So then
now it showed me his commitment to Tour Days. So
(06:19):
you know, we were going to wait a little bit
to build Tyrese into Tour Days, to get him adapted
to our training techniques and T I know when you
mentioned our training techniques, this is something I love to share.
So the one thing I learned about basketball is there's
no secrets in basketball. Tim Martin is one of my
(06:40):
guys that I mentored, but he's one of my friends also.
So what makes me and Corey excited is that you
have Tim Martin as a developer trainer, you have me,
and you got Course. So you got three trainers that
are brothers. Not too many guys can say that we
got three trainers that work together and we're all committed
(07:02):
to the mission of you becoming, to becoming the best
player that you can.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
And that, to me alone makes it so exciting.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
And so for you young trainers out there, there's no competition
and you don't own anybody. Your job is to be
a part of that life, to be a part of
their journey and to help them achieve the goals, the
things that are set out in front of them. And
Tyrese was just committed. I knew it right away, and
(07:31):
I told Corey, I was like, Therese is special. And
every year you've done it over the last past four years,
you've shown how special you are. And it's only the beginning,
and it's only the beginning, but it's only a contribute
to the work ethic that you have to your father,
(07:53):
your mother, your uncle, like the people that help build
your foundation from the beginning did an amazing job with you.
And so we're part of the t MAX group. We're
part of the whole family. Me and your dad have
come and say whole family. So that that makes it different.
So a lot of people like, what is it like
(08:15):
training time. I'm like, terresis, we're family and and that's
how my concept of actually.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Developing players and Corey know this.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's about the longevity the long run. And you know,
our training techniques is we call some of the shadow boxing.
Some of it is mental, some is spiritual, some is connecting.
But it's not drills. It's not basketball that separates us.
(08:45):
It's the mentality. It's the mental approach, is developing players
a system that they could take everywhere with them, and
that's what makes us different.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
That's that's well spoken. That's and I'm gonna touch on it, Cory.
Go but I'm gonna touch on a lot of stuff
you said, oh g because a lot of stuff. A
lot of stuff you said is some of the topics
that I want to talk about today. So go ahead,
Corey man O g said it all. Talking after him
is gonna be crazy. But like you said, it's a family.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
And so everything we did with t from the very
first day he came in. I remember the very first
day he came in too, and after his second workout,
I said, Tea, how you feel it? He said, bro
y'all tricked me, man, y'all told me this it is next.
You know, I feel like I feel like I'm about
to pass out and said, you're a soldier. And that
was the first day because I was working out by myself.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, and you're working.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Out by yourself.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
And so that day on, I knew he was gonna
be a soldier because actually I knew it after the
first ball Head Wednesday for a lot of people that
don't know Baldhead Wednesday especially especially my.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Favorite day for every day, and so you know, we
definitely get to.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Work on that day. But then that separates T from a.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Lot of the people I've been around is that his professionalism.
He's a professional on and off the court, and so
it's amazing to have the relationship with me. And what
makes our training different from a lot of other people
is that relationship factor. And it doesn't matter who's in
the gym. We treat everybody the same, everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Saying okay, there we go. And that's that's what I
was waiting on, because I was really just about to say.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, it don't matter if it's a high school kid,
middle school kid, or pro. We treat everybody saying, we
teach everybody the same system. And so that's why our
training and the way we treat people.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Our level is out this world. Yes, And I'm so
glad you said that. I was really just about to
talk about that because OG said, like you said, it's
hard talking about the OG. It's crazy that you brought
that up, because I was just about to talk about
the relationship that y'all build. Because everybody respects y'all because
(10:57):
when you go in that gym, when you walk into
that side of that gym, you know, Okay, today, I'm
gonna want I need to be here on time and
probably early or I'm gonna hear it from OG and
I'm here from Corey. That's number one and two. I'm
gonna work today.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I'm gonna work.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I'm gonna it ain't gonna be no you know, lolly gagging.
I'm not about to be just going at my pace.
I respect y'all because it doesn't matter, like you say,
it don't matter who comes in there. I've seen Bron,
I've seen Roano, I've seen the way. I've seen it myself.
I seen I'm gonna go all the way down to uh,
y'all letting my little brother, Corey working out, my little
(11:37):
brother this summer, and he working out just as hard
as you work me out, and it's like, you know,
like he just got so much better in this little
span of time, and I just like that's why I'm
saying it's a family oriented and just I love the
way that y'all do things, man. It just it changes
the way I looked at at working out, man, And
like even like working out in Dallas. Sometimes I love
(12:00):
working out, you know till I love it. Tell my
guy that one of my best homies. But I feel
like I always had to come back at least at
least for a month, at least for a month and
a half and get my you know what I'm saying,
get that get that work in because who did man
one y'all always going to make sure we're in the
best shape of our lives. Whoever were working out, you know.
And it's like we talk about that COVID, that COVID
(12:23):
year back before my pre draft, like going into training
camp I had, like you said, it was from May
to November, right, yeah. And the amount of times that
I came home was maybe once or twice. And that's
because I had to come home. I had to come
home once for my grandmother's funeral, and I had to
come home once for when they did the NBA Finals.
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I was on like the little halftime thing. The rest
of the time I was in l A. And when
I tell y'all, it wasn't. We didn't take no weeks off,
Like we just gonna take a week off, three days
every single day, Monday through Friday. And it's like, man,
I just really appreciate y'all because when I stepped into
the league, I was ready to contribute for you too.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
When you when the one thing have my brain worked?
He and this is funny.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Once I figured out your commitment, the barges keep raising
like it's crazy because I was like, Corey, he's gonna
be special and was like, how do you know? I said,
Watch watch his approach, Watch the way he's preparing for
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the fight. He's not result driven, he's processed driven. And
that's one of the number one things that we try
to get players that all ages to fall in love
with is just the process. And so that made it
so much fun. It makes me get up every day
and like, oh, I got one. And he allows me
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to coach him. He allows Corey to coach him. And
the one thing that's sometimes we lose and we forget
is we can't do it by ourselves. So you have
to you have to be able to receive information as
well as you give information.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And so it's so important.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
So those ingredients, the way you were raised, the way
your dad put the time in as your high school
coach and taught you how to play the game. It
prepared everything to the point to pass the torch off
to me and Cory. And that's what me and your
dad talked about it. Once he's seen what we did,
he was like, Chris, I'm out.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
And left the first time been without a pot. It's gone.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I'm gone. I'm out. He was like, Chris, I got it.
And I was like, we just passing the torch.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And that's the ultimate respect that you can get. That's
what I would want to do as a father like Isaiah.
Corey is Isaiah's trainer. Cory can tell you right now
and we're on the podcast and it's for all the
other guys in the world.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Corey, who's your client on this phone right now? Terry's Maxey.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Terry's Maxey, and so ty Reeves is my client. But Corey,
you got to build this with ty Re's. So I'm
developing Corey because Corey is the COO of just Who.
So this is this is our client together, this is
our brother. So Corey, what is your responsibility? And this
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is why having mentors are very important people that actually
can change your life. So when people say hey, Tyres,
I'm like, now that's Corey. Taste care of him. And
that's very important. And that's the teamwork that we create
is is that when you try to grow everyone around.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
You to become gray. And I think that makes it
so amazing to.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Right, Yep, I agree. And one thing I want to
touch on it's just come into my mind because it's
the first time I've ever been a part of it,
was the shadow boxing. I want to talk about that
because like, so you know, working on my dad, it's
just me and my dad in there, and then working
out with Tim, it's just me and Tim. So it
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was like we never really I never really had a
likes working out with defense. The entire workout, Like, no
matter what, no matter what you do, no matter what
I'm doing, it's Corey is always out there or whoever
we have is somebody always out there. And I want
I want you to go into a Corey because you
shadow box against everybody. Like I said, we go from
(16:30):
Lebron all the way down to me, all the way
down to little Jordan all the way down to Isaiah.
Like you shadow boxing with everybody. So what did OG
teach you? I want you to talk to the people
about it. And when I say shadow boxing, y'all, I
talk about like when you're going through workout, you have
somebody defending you and somebody giving you real game looks
so glory. I want you to tell people about it
(16:51):
because that's something that people don't know, and that's something
people think you playing token defense or whatever, but you're really,
you know, giving us a ris look. So I want
you to I want you to talk to them about that.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
So, so shadow boxing is literally, like you can almost say,
it's like one on one. But as a teacher, you
have to be able to put your player in the
right positions and show them exactly what you want them
to do. So as me Oras Chris, or as any
trinder that's trying to shadow box, you got to know
all three areas. You got to learn as a teacher.
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You got to learn at your offensive player, and you
got to know what the defensive player would do as well.
So sometimes it's cool if you, hey, you're trying to
play certain things, but at the end of the day,
what is the main point of emphasis that you're trying
to get that offensive player to learn. So when we're
shadow boxing, it's more so of hey, I got to
make sure he gets to this spot, but hey, let
(17:46):
me make sure his ball place is in the right spot.
Let me try to reach here. Let me try to
teach him. Oh, hey, T, did you see where my
body was? Okay, the way my body is is how
you learn how to play. So when that live look happens,
now you know exactly how to fight. All I'm doing
is teaching players how to fight, teaching them Okay, if
I moved this way, are you just going to stand
(18:08):
still or are you going to react? So our foundation
at just hoop and learning. How the shadow box is
read and react. Every dude is reading and reacting, and
so shadow boxing, that skill is from that.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
So of course let's.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Talk about how I came over with the concept of
shadow boxing. So T, it's a concept that I took
from boxing and me being a defensive coach. Everything that
I look at on the offensive end is predicated on
what the defense can do, and I looked at the approach.
(18:42):
What boxers do. Boxers trained as a skill set. They
punch the bags, they do these different counters. They work
on these different punches, but the way that they really
get prepared for the fight is who they shadow box against.
So the shadow is somebody that is very skilled, understands
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their strength and weaknesses, understands how to put them in
position to become a better fighter. And so when I
looked at that, I was like, why don't we take
the same concept and applied in basketball to really teach
players how to actually be proactive, to be able to react,
(19:30):
and to be able to make quick decisions as the
game is going. So true development happens in several stages.
The shadow boxing stage is the final stage.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
So imagine developing skills.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
You may not have a body on you because you
don't have the skill set the fight with, but as
you progress, if a guy bodies does this, you should
be able to do this and it should happen in
seconds and it should be natural. And so when I'm
watching watch YouTube social media, other trainers, trainers send me
(20:05):
a lot of videos, other teachers and basketball coaches sending
a lot of videos, And the first thing I watch
is they're trying to mimic our shadow boxing, but it's
really not shadow boxing and really just kind of standing
in a way they're not actually in you know, the
proper shape. We're in great shape. We take care of
our bodies the same approach that our athletes got to have,
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right because we do it for fourteen fifteen hours a day,
you know. And so when I looked at shadow boxing,
I really and I got a book coming out about
shadow boxing. But shadow boxing is like our special ingredients
to take our players to the next level, because there's
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no way that you can actually learn and be prepared
unless you got a great partner in the shadow box.
And that's why Corey is phenomenal with you. And this
is the way I he Corey. Corey did a great
example of telling you the reasons why with shadow box.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
And I tell Corey this, I say, shadow boxing.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Requires you number one, to understand defensive positioning.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
That's number one.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Number two, you gotta be able to teach offense and
you gotta be able to demonstrate what reaction.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
So as a trainer, you got to be able to
see it.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
At full speed and see these three things happening to
really get the most. Now, Tee, when you begin your
shadow box and going into your rookie year, if I
go look at your finishing package and I go, look
at the way you finish on people and you hitting
them with runners, floaters, floaters off the glass level, threes
and people. You should hear the people talking like, wow,
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does he really have that? And I'm looking at Car
like they just don't. They just don't know because you committed.
You committed to it, though, and then when you have
games where you're breaking records and you know you're getting
in the paint and you're you're making the right reads
and you're making the right passes and you're playing the
game the right way, it all comes back to how
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we shout about you. And Corey knows how focused I
am or we have to take it very serious about
how we prepare our guys.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
For performance, and not just the performance aspect. Y'all prepared
guys for real life situations when they step into that facility.
Because the way y'all run it, Okay, so and so
coming here at six, okay, og and Corey and whoever
has to come in that day. What if y'all got
helping with y'all they there at five forty five, Okay, boom,
(22:43):
we got I don't know, Troy Brown and Lonnie Walker
coming in at seven Okay, at we got to get
you in here at five fifty on the court, boom boom,
they ain't here at seven right after you. You're not wasting
nobody's time. You know. That's the thing that I love
about it. Like, you know what, you're gonna get your
work in, You're gonna work extremely hard, You're gonna get
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great work in, and then you're not gonna get your
time wasted. This this is sixty minutes of real action
pack work. There's no bs like and that's what I
love about it. Man, That's just one thing that I
just want to make it. And it's funny because Paul
Reid just came out there. Yeah, I was so happy
(23:27):
been because I've been pushing I'm trying to get Jadis
Springing to come out there at least one work one
time before the season started, because like, these are my
these are my friends, my teammates. He's like, you know,
my brothers whatever, And I just know how well y'all do,
like with developing everybody, and this is the environment that
everybody is able to get better. Like you know what
I'm saying, shooting finishing, You know what I'm saying, You're
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not gonna put Per Read or Jadie Springer in a
position that they won't be in the game. You're gonna
make them game like reads. And that's what it's just.
Oh man, it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
You need those game reads team to help you.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
That's what the boxing is because once you're on the court,
you have to be a forward thinker, right, You got
to think forward and you got to think about things
that are happening before time. And that's where people say, well,
this player is a special player where you just got
a lot of reps and it's a lot of mental
reps and a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Team.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I'll give you credit. That is I was gonna get
a thousand makes out of your day. So during that
pre drast you you showed me this my toe cord.
I say, oh my god, he can shoot it. Not
that you could shoot it, but the thousand makes. Every
people that are saying you are making thousands outs today,
you know how hard it is to make a thousands
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out today?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
What Yeah, it takes two workouts.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
It takes two workouts. Imagine that that's all about to
say it takes too much outs and it doesn't matter
what goes on in the workout. You're gonna finish. You're
gonna begin that shooting those reps.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Get them in. You're gonna get him in, bro, you
can get him. You're tired.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
That's what it's been. Days while when I was about
before my rookie year and I came in from my lift,
like on Tuesday, you know, go heavy arms out there.
I came in, I'm like, yeah, my arms store like,
oh yeah, yeah, let's it's twenty five in the court.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I'm like all right whatever, But you know, like that's
why what you need though, you need that. I feel like,
you know, you need that. Somebody's gonna push you no
matter what. It's gonna make you fight through adversity. Because
when you get to the NBA, when you get to
the games, it's gonna be a birsity. I don't care
who you are. You have to go through diversity. And
if are you gonna hit that wall, are you gonna
bounce back the wall? Or you're gonna be able to
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run through that wall? And y'all are I feel like
y'all are preparing guys to be able to run through
the wall, whether it's NBA, college, high school. And you
know what I'm saying, Corey. Corey, you know your kids
as well. You know what I'm saying. Okay, so we
wanna take a quick break. I appreciate them, Chris and
Corey for being here. When we get back, I want
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to talk a little bit about me being able to
train and compete with Raja Rondo, a Hall of famer
in today's game. And also a funny story about training
with Lebron James at six a m. A story that
we will all never forget. And uh, you know, y'all
stay tuned and see us have to break. I got
(26:44):
a couple more things for y'all, and I want to
start with I want to start one the Rondo story
about how he came my tail at ten o'clock to
bet me like nine. I'm just not a joke. And
you know, right on Ronald coming in on the back
end of his career, I think he may.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Have like what two years he had like two more years.
I think it was year fourteen for him.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, this is the year they wanted, they want the championship.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
They year fourteen.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
OG had been telling me, so I had been I
had been out in LA for maybe maybe a week
and a half, two weeks, you know, Og had been
telling me like, hey, man, Ronald gonna pull up on you.
He said he gonna kick your tailor. You know. He said,
you're not gonna be ready. And you know me and y'all,
y'all know how I am about competition. I'm like, I
ain't losing nobody, you know what I'm saying. Man, Rondo
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came in there. I think we played one spot. Was like,
we're gonna play one spot. I'm like, one spot, all right,
I gotta get the spot. I think I may have
had the first bucket he had like eight straight. I'm like,
he's all right, you know, Rondo he talking trash the
whole time. Yeah, but like but like it was so
good for me, like I needed it, And did you
know I come back later on that one, and I'm like, man,
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we're Rondo at and Og telling me like, n Rondo
work sif you want to if you want to get
your if you want to get your lick back with Rondo,
you come here at six o'clock in the morning. He
ain't coming back at ten. So I'm like, I remember
going to tell my uncle and my dad. I'm like,
I'm about to work out at six. I ain't no way,
I'm about to just let Rondo do me like that.
And then it's like ever since that day, like me
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and Rondo cool, you know what I'm saying, Like you
know what I'm saying, like a big brother to me.
And it's like y'all being able to put people, put
players in that position to build those relationships. And you've
given me that opportunity, you, Corey, and then even Rondo
because he cool with you. You know what I'm saying,
y'all type, so he trusts you. You know, you're telling him, Hey,
(28:40):
look I got this young guy company. I want you
to come in teach him some stuff, but I want
you to come to kick his tail first, you know
what I'm saying, So to make him you know, know that, Okay,
he gotta do this, this, that and the third. So
like I really want to talk. I want you all
talk about a little bit about that OG.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah that's crazy because that's a part of my strategies team.
So over the twenty years stretch, one of my strate
and Corey knows the strategy now is the guys that
are built like you. I find my older veteran players
and I talked to them about, Hey, this guy is special.
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What strategies can we give to him that can build
him and make him better? And everyone wants to see
other people be better and do things great. And after
I broke it down with with Rondo was like number one.
Both of y'all went to UK number two. This dude
is gonna be really good. Though, He's like, how good
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is it? You know, all the old heads for all
you young people listen. They always want to know who's next,
And so he was like okay, he saying, and Rondo dirty,
so Rondo.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Rundo.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
When T was playing him and me and Corey laught
at all the time, he was stepping on T foot,
he elbow and T.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
And then it's my turn to get the ball. Corey
throve in the ball, Rono pulled my whole hip. Yeah yeah,
because I ain't that strong yet. I done slipped and
fell like yep my ball. I'm like wait what.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, so T so Corey, so T. This is this
is how you know you're a true competitor. T was
like hell no and left.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Hip the facts.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
He was like, nah, hell no, I ain't going for that.
You will fight, You will fight back, and that's what
me and though because I knew Doe was going to
teach you some things that other people are not willing
to teach you. And that's why it's so important to
have these guys around like run though, or like me
bringing in Derrek Fisher and Matt Bourne's and d Wade.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I'm surrounded. I've touched.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I can't even count how many players I've touched from NBA,
you're a league, CBA, you name the league. I've touched thousands, Bro.
So I always call them and say, hey, come and
get back to the community. Because it's not just me
that's the master teacher. Rondo actually learned things from you.
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You motivated him because he's like, Okay, I still do
got room to get better. I still I can compete
at this level. So it's like when you have a
community of people helping each other, somebody is gaining something
from it and everybody's pouring into the pot. And so
you you locking in with Rondo showed me that. Okay,
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so he can get up at five in the morning
and ever since. Then four years later, I know it
don't matter when, what time where he man gonna be there,
and he's gonna be early, and he's gonna be ready
and that alone is what.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
You want to learn.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
You want to face that adversity. We want to create
that adversity, and me and Rondo talk about it. We
send clips. So me and Rondo send clips to each
other all year long. T TV on the We'll be
watching and then we'll be like, Okay, we got to
get him some information. Then T Mac's dad or hit
me like yo, you talk to T and I'll be like, okay,
(32:24):
I need to talk to him. But we try to
give that room so T can make mistakes. So just
because we're part of the team, he got to make
his own mistakes and then he got to trust us
to come back to us and say, I made this mistake.
What's the ingredients for that? And I told Cory that,
(32:44):
I say T has to grow, but we grow with them.
And so for people out there that is knowing every
year T changes and gets better, we're gonna change with him.
When he goes from this level at the NBA to
year ten, We're not going to treat them like you're one.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
We're going to treat them like you're ten.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
And so that's what the relationships are all about, is
everybody has to grow in the relationship.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
You know, and then like now it's like when I
come into gym, you know, you we probably on communication early,
but now I can come in and say, look, oh,
g coy, what about what if you think about this
right here? What if we can put this guy right
here or they reguarded me like this, Let's try this
with what we got in there. And having that type
of relationship and that type of communication is key because
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now I'm working with y'all, y'all working with me, and
now we're like one team. We're all getting better at it,
you know what I'm saying. But you know, I mean,
I appreciate y'all. I just always in these you know,
when I have people on and when I'm on, always
in these podcasts the same way. So I'm sorry I'm
putting you'll on the spot, but I want y'all both
to give me one thing that y'all thankful for in
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the in the past week and one thing that y'all
want to get one percent better at in the upcoming week,
if that makes any sense. And because because OG has
been going first all day, you to go first today.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Man.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
So the first thing I want to say that I'm
blessed for this past week is man. I'm blessed to
have Og in my life, teaching me, teaching me through
things every day. I'm blessed to be able to work
with the players that work with every day, and I'm
blessed to have the people that I'm around every day,
because one thing I've learned is you can't take nothing
for granted. Anything can change in one moment, one minute,
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or one second, and so just being able to live
in the moment and learn from the people and see
where you're actually at is truly blessing. And so I'm
just thankful for I want to say I'm thankful for OG.
I don't usually given compliments because he'd be cheating all
the time, but but I want to say thank you.
I want to say thank you for Og. And then
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one thing I want to get better at is continue
to learn about the business side of things, and I
also want to be able to get better at communication.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
On the business side.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
I'm learning how to move a little bit, so that's
the next step for me, is learning how to communicate.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
That's pretty good, Cory, So for me, that's really good.
This week, I'm grateful for the commitment. And what I
mean by commitment, I look at my commitment to other
people and people commitment to themselves, and so I know
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my purpose. My purpose is to educate, to equipped and
excel people. I'll say that again, educate equipped and excel people.
And that's my purpose. And so this week I'm so
grateful for the commitment and the state committed. And one
thing I want to get better at. I've really been exact,
(36:00):
so te you putting out with me on this one,
but I want to get better at asking questions. And
I'll tell you why. My brain is like a computer.
I register, I'm very focused on it. I study it,
I study people, I study things. I feel like I'm
(36:20):
mastered every piece of like basketball, relationships, how to treat people.
These are like very important things to me. But one
thing that when you master things, you have a lot
of information to give.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
We don't. I rarely ask questions right, and so.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I am making it a complete focus point for me
to get better at asking the right questions. And I
think that complete that will complete me in such a
way that makes me get better and that so those
are the two things that I want to get better
at asking questions, asking the right questions, and I'm grateful
(37:02):
for the commitment.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, no, I appreciate y'all man, from the bottom of
my heart. Man, I just as I sit here and
think about it and laugh, I'm thinking about last summer.
You said, hey man, Lebron said he gonna come in
and work out with you at six. It's all right, cool,
So y'all know me. I'm getting there early, but like,
always get there early, Lebron.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
He looked at me.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
He walking like, dang, man, what time you get here.
I'm like, man, I get about like five thirty five,
five forty. He said, all right, all right, bet I
come in the next day here a full sweat lifted.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
I was like, what are you? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
He said, No, I can't let you beat me to
the gymp you're working out folkto today? Noah, what the heck?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
And it's like, man, I'm just sitting here thinking about it,
like what that's crazy, right, that's just getting insane.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Like he's a living legend, bro. You gotta give respect
to him. He's the best to ever do it. You know,
when you got the best player in the world, you
always think about it. You look at it, you say Wow,
he averaged twenty nine point nine points a game. You know, people,
people don't appreciate how greatness until it's gone.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
And so my job is to approach Lebron.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
The way I approach t Max is to assume they
know nothing so that I don't miss any detail. So
that's how you make the best player in the world
better is I assume that he knows nothing because he's
coming to be a good student. And that's how you
contribute to him is giving him everything that you got
(38:41):
and not assuming that he knows it. And he's so
competitive that he did that to you because I told
Corey that, I said, times go short, and then I
was like, as soon as Braun figured it out, he
gonna beat up.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
To the gam I remember, because Rise he's like Couse,
Like yo, Cory, you're going have to get up there
and probably like for for for a team. Four thirty
Bron trying to lift. I said, huh, I said, Bron
trying to lift before the workout. I got there at
four thirty, kid. You Now, I look at my car.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
At thirty am. So people that know, Yeah, when I
looked at.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
My clock, I see I see a car coming in.
It's four thirty. I said, he come in, you know
what's up. I'm talking about four thirty. I'm talking about
every single day.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
It was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
You know what's even funny about it? This is for
other people. Corey was getting there early. Broun figured out what.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Time Corey was cool and beat him there and beat
him there. You're not gonna beat me.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I got to open up the gym. That just that
just popped into my head because that's that's just the
family aspect of But no, I appreciate y'all coming there.
Much love y'all. We're gonna toss the break now. Thank
you to og Chris Johnson and Corey Smith my big brother,
for being man much love y'all.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Man, I appreciate you having us only.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Thank you so much, you sir, all right, you know
how we always do it. At the end of MAXI
and the mic, first and foremost, I would like to
say thank y'all for the rates and descriptions and everybody watching,
(40:26):
all the feedback that I've been giving I've been getting.
It's been great. This is you know, this is a
really good deal, having a lot of fun with it,
and we're going to keep banging out these episodes for
y'all and keep adding on guests and making it really
cool and really unique and very special for y'all. But
as we always do it. You heard Christi and Corey's
(40:47):
how they want to get one percent better and how
what they're thankful for. Last week, what I'm thankful for
was safe travel. Safe travel. I was in LA during
the hurricane and the earth quake. So you know, I
have my best friend Chris with me. He never been
He's never been in a hurricane, never been an earthquake.
He was in both in LA. And it's funny we
(41:10):
talked about hurricanes. The hurricane in LA was really just
a normal day in Philly. It was just raining, It
was gloomy. You know what I'm saying. My Philly people,
y'all will understand what I'm talking about. We go through
that probably for about eight nine months, not like five
to six months. Is well, you know, we don't see
the sun, we have to take bodamin deep pills and
all that type of stuff. But I was grateful. I
(41:32):
was grateful for that, thankful and grateful for that because
you know, you just don't know what you're going to
get with a hurricane. Or earthquake. You know what I mean,
This my like third earthquake being my third earthquake in LA.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
So that was cool.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
We made it out of that and thankful for that.
But I want to get one percent better at this
upcoming week.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
My thing is I have done a really good job
the last three years with diet. I am finding a
news chef right now for into Philly, and I think
that's going to be great for me. Have a couple
of really good candidates. So one thing I'm gonna get
better at is communicating with my with my chefs about
like if you like something or not. So when I'm
(42:12):
saying it is to say communication is one thing I
want to work on because I have no problem with
telling people I don't like this, I don't like that,
but sometimes it's hard to do that, you know what
I'm saying, and still be how I explain it and
not try to come off as disrespectful because you're not
trying to be disrespectful, You're just trying to explain to them, hey,
(42:34):
maybe we could do this a different way. And I'm
gonna work on that. I like the entire world to
work on that, and uh yeah, that's what we do,
but uh like subscribe Max you and a mic on
all podcasts platforms. Shout out to our heart Radio. We'll
see y'all at the next episode. Peace Out,
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