Chlamydia Candle w/ George Civeris

This week Sydnee and Marie are joined by comedian and friend George Civeris! The MESS? Big Beverage? But in reality, LIFE. and as always, the three give y'all their take on your MESSages. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Listening to Mess. Let's go, let's go. Hello, let's go,
let's go, let's go. Can we go? Can we start? Okay,
We're good to go.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, there's been a lot of talking.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
What they talk about.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Oh, I was just trying to start our show. How
Beyonce started.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
What they talk about.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, there's been a lot of talking.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Well, they talking about it, they talk about Mess. Yes,
yes we are.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah. So how are you feeling in a post Beyonce
Cowboy Carter world?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
That's what you got, the hat one. It made me
want to be better. That's why I was like, hey,
I can't come out of here not drinking water, not
being active, not not working out because seeing her on
stage for three hours, bitch, three hours. I mean we've
been waiting for this moment, and I will not use

(00:57):
the reference waiting for it tonight. I'm not gonna do
that because got one glasses on the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Now, when you said waiting for this moment, I started thinking,
Kelly Clarkson, some people wait a lifetime for a moment
that one. So we did all different places, both lights,
both light. Now show to people this heavy ass water
bottle that you got.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
So I'm starting seventy five hard or whatever. It is
an intense god yeah, oh my god, oh my god.
You and you know what, you would drag me every
time because you were like, you don't drink widter, look
at how dehydrated you are. And now I have to

(01:37):
drink a gallon of water a day. But a gallon
is so much, it's too much. I think I'm drowning.
But yeah, I drink this. I have. I have to
drink a gallon of water. I have to work out
twice a day, forty five minutes, one in the gym
and then one outside. So it could be you know, biking, walking, whatever,
talking shit. Yet run it out that workout, run your mouth, okay.

(01:58):
And I had to get up stuff like to have
a diet, so you know, I stopped the caffeine, the sugar,
the juices, the sodas, no Red Bull, and cutting down
on dairy fried food. So it's just like no cheese.
I think I'm gonna do a little bit of it,
but not. You know, I'm a dairy queen. I'm cutting

(02:20):
I'm cutting most of it out. Dag no more shark
coucie boards. Sorry, that is wild.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I went for a rent today because of you, and
my body does hurt, but it looks so good. Yeah,
but the muscles is paper mache.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
But I was on the phone with my anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
I was talking to my mom about your heart seventy
five today and I googled it because she was like,
what's that? And I told her what it was. I
told her, you have to drink a gallon of water
every day.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
And she was like, she's gonna draw And I was.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Like, see, even mom said that he's gonna do.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
She said, a gallon of wad.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I said, instead, it gets up at eight and she
finishes by midnight.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
That she has that many hours to drink water. And
my mom said okay.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
And I told her what you're you know, you have
to read ten pages. You gotta blah blah blah. And
she said, oh, I have to do that. So my
mom is gonna do a hard seventy five or whatever
as well.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
And I'm gonna do a mile seventy five. I got
a book in my purse. I read five pages on
the train. Oh my god, we're doing it, doing it.
You see what Beyonce does. Girl, she's really getting us
together because we I mean, we were in the zone
the whole show, and you know we have like eighty ah. Yeah,
didn't get up to Pete, don't get up to get
no snacks. I was like, I'm gonna sit here while

(03:47):
she's here. Take it in. I don't want to miss anything.
You know, I'm trying to get my money's worth. One.
Let's talk about it. Okay, that's that's the mess. How
much we pay. But I'm actually unsure how much we
pay you, just because it took me so long to
like venmo her the money, and I think I included
other things that I owed a mean of money for,

(04:08):
so it's unclear what we paid.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
But I don't think it was like we didn't spend
like two thousand dollars like we wasn't we weren't in
the saloon with her. But I will say the people
who are right up front, they every dollar they spent
is worth it because you get to see the contour
her face, you see her skin up close.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
You probably could smell her like and I if I
can actually do it again, like go to her concert,
I would love to be that close because you just
you're just getting all of her energy too. Okay, so
you're gonna be in blue Ivy's lap, Like what you
I want to be roomy, so we running around or
whatever the hell I want. So what's the budget then

(04:49):
for the next time. This is I think people were
paying like two thousand dollars, right, But also we were
realizing that people got their tickets late in they were
paying less less and still getting really good seats too.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, I mean our seats were real cute. She drove
over us in her car.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
That was fine. You should put that in the dump.
That was cute because I literally have a video of
your bottom of a car. I was like, he gave me. Now,
I've never been bee Hive.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
I've never been, you know, one of these people that
like stands for really any artist. But seeing Beyonce live
has made me appreciate how good her visuals are. And
now I want to watch every concert. I want to
see every video. I'm in the middle of Lemonade right now,
I'm watching that. And now did she ever come out

(05:39):
and say jay Z cheated on her? Or we just
watched that and we all just said, she's talking about him.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah he did it, Becky with the good hair, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
But I'm just saying, like, right, I mean there is
a song where she takes her wedding ring off and
she throws it at the camera. So I think that
maybe is what makes it feel like it's real real,
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
And Solange whooped his ass in the elevator. What else
could that have been? You know what I'm saying, Like,
I'm not kicking ass for a good cis unless you
hurt her. You know what I'm saying, Like, if somebody
hurt you, I can't fight.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
But I'll learn.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
I'll learn, Like, oh, your train, all the rage will
come out, and I will John Wick if I have to. Oh, yes,
I'm putting on the record. Oh write that down. That's
the show that we've been, the movie. That's the movie
you're trying to shoot.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
I get hurt enough, you know, Jennifer Lopez style, and
you train for how long you think you need to
train to be able to beat up the person who
hurts me.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I have to work on my core first, So I'm
gonna say at least three months. Three months, yes, three months,
because then I got to learn how to hold a gun.
You know.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
You know how've been Michael P. Jordan's trained for Creed
because that's how long. I feel like Sidney's gonna have
to train for I think.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
He already just knew it, like he was, Oh like, hey,
I don't really care about him, but I will say visually,
that's what a man is supposed to look like, bring
back men, bring back our men are men? Well, y'all's
man and a mine.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
But yes, I ut that you don't care about him,
but that's the blueprint for what a man should be.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yes, the muscles, the mustache, the skin. You know he
smells good. But now this is mess. Oh this is
an exclusive. Yes, he's not tall right now? How tall
is he?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Because I saw him in a David Yeerman ag producer
and I can't tell how tall he is.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I feel like he's five nine mm. That means five eight.
I think he's how tall? Then he's not six. It
feels like he should be sick.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
He's six.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
If it says he's six, that means he's five to
tens he's five five. They're lying, They're like, because I've
seen him up against with another woman, and I'm like,
it's not given tall.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Five is a really amazing height for a man to be.
I just want to I just want to right right
it's actually one of the top.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Heights that it makes it sounds like you're five ten.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
I'm just saying what I've heard, what I've read in
the trades is that they're looking for five ten men.
That's what they're saying across Hollywood and various other industries.
Five ten men?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (08:08):
So?

Speaker 3 (08:08):
I keep reading that.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
The Girls wanted six six five brown blue Eyes finance
six five blue eyes. I thought the girls one in
six six six.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Sorry, I'm not allowed to talk technically.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, well you did, and it is it is this
is your time, Well.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I mean it is. First you're saying, bring back real men.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
And then and then.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Bring back our men, and men is maries men. Do
you think Michael B. Jordan's clothing is too tight?

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Oh? You call him Dominican, you call him gay?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
I know, you know, you know, tight is now straight
and baggy is now gay. It used to be tight
was gay. Baggy was straight and so like to me,
straight guy like straight. I don't want to say West Village,
but like you know, straight works in midtown. Guy is
now skinny khaki, skinny khaki two tight polo.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
I don't even look at them in Midtown. I know
we are working in Midtown, but I don't even know
what they look like. Okay, wait should we Yeah, we
might as well bring against this man. He is a delight.
He's been on unofficial Expert one of the hosts of
Stradio Lab.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
And didn't you just film your specialize? I did?

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Oh my god. Yes, we're happy to have him. George
Savaris is in.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
The building, and I just want to say, I'm so
empowered that I'm not even going to apologize for being
fifteen minutes late. Wow, and that and actually, you know,
actually that's really revolutionary that I'm not sorry. I want you,
I want you both to apologize for being on time.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Oh I was late, she was late, but later.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Are we're talking?

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I was I got here like I got here like
twenty minutes late.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Oh you had a different call time than me, because
we'll be late right anyway, whatever was, it is what
it is, It is what it is.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Got to text us tonight like sorry, I was laid down.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
I know, I know, I.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Don't feel that. If you know us, that is our brand.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
And so yeah, but can I tell you something. You've
always said that's your brand, both of you. Recently, it
hasn't been. I've been socially with both of you recently,
and you've both been on time. You were on time
to dinner, you were on time when you did the pod.
You were also on time. I can't remember, but.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Got a different call time.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's what I was telling you. You are both. It's
like the opposite of someone. It's like you actually you're
getting like a better reputation that's ruining your old reputation.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Wait a minute, wait, I got to turn my clock
back forward. Marie was on time.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Where is definitely on time when she did Tradio lab
you when we got dinner. I think you were there
before Matthew.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, thirty minutes early because I was just.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Sidney was sitting there reading the Sunday Times.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Have you heard about Trump? Trump is crazy? I said,
let me get here early because I will be late.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
I was, really. I don't want to say it's like
because by the way you guys have been, you guys
have said you like talk openly about how you're late
to thinks. I would have never known, like, oh, Maria
is late if it wasn't literally in your Instagram bio.
It's not like I'm noticing it, you know what?

Speaker 1 (11:21):
I mean, okay, you know what it is.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Then that just means we don't hang out often enough
because I've been late to I'd be late.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
To all the things.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, it's like kind of built into because I hate
being early. No, that's the issue, Like I don't want
to sit for thirty minutes and wait for somebody.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
I know. What do you do though? If you if
you get there early? Yeah? Reading? Are you on social media?

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I'll probably scroll or maybe I'll call somebody who I ignored.
You know how that goes. Let me tell you what happened.
So we were supposed to go. We were at the
bowling alley already, like us in our like group chat
or whatever, huh for Matteo Lane and Amina her birthday
and he was celebrating his special just came out. They
had went to the diner. Marie literally is running late,

(12:09):
but they were still at the diner. They said, oh,
we're almost there. Marie gets there and they're not there,
and she said, oh my god, I can't believe no
one's here. And she left. She literally left. She said,
but well, I'm hungry, I have to go. I have
to get something eat. Let's talk about why I was.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
She left I left where I was because I was like, oh,
I'm running late. Everybody's already there. I was like, I
could eat here, but no, no, no, I'm running too late.
I have to get there. I get there. I'm the
first one there. Everybody else is eating, right, They're at
their own respective restaurants and diners and places eating.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
I was like, oh, oh, and I don't want bowling
alley food.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
No, you can't do bowling alleys exactly. But here's a
question for you. Where did you ultimately eat?

Speaker 1 (12:49):
I went back to where I started. Okay, I went
all the way back downtown.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
You went back to the cellar. I went back to
the cellar. You went back to the cellar, Mary, why
are you repeating it? I went back to the seacause
I just couldn't believe it. I went back to the cellar. George,
before we get into your mess today, can we talk
about something that maybe you did that was messy this week?

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Oh recently?

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Oh okay, this actually is gonna go ahead and take
us into my larger mess.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
The prologue.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
So, basically, I had a very minor skincare thing, and
I was prescribed acutaneka. I was not told.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
It's just you don't just get acuting like that. That's heavy.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Dude. By the way, can you tell I'm glowing?

Speaker 1 (13:32):
You look great, you look amazing. I even have porse.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
You don't have horse, So I have a I've now
talked about the sun Trader lips. I don't want to
bore anyone who listens to both it is. I had
a thing like in my beard where basically it felt
like my skin was like rejecting my facial hair. It
was like painful to have a beard. But then I
couldn't shave it because that would be like putting a knife.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
To Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That don't sound like a
minor skin thing, George.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
But I'm just saying I first I was mistagnosed whatever.
Finally they were like, were gonna put on acutan, get
on acutane. Everything's going great. At my skin, as you
can tell, is glowing. I went to Italy, sorry, and
I was having these amazing meals. I went to the
birthplace of pesto. I had the most amazing pesto of
my life. We're talking two bottles of Nebiola wine every

(14:17):
night for dinner. Went in from my monthly checkup. Come
to find out I'm not supposed to be drinking on accutane.
I said, no, no, no, no, no, I haven't told me that.
The first appointment.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Two bottles of wine.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
And so that is my recent mess and I've now
reformed myself. So that was month one. Now starting starting
month two, I am not even having a sip of alcohol.
I think I'm gonna be okay, but I am a
little scared.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Well you were sorry. What happened?

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Shocked?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
What happens if you drink on acutane.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Well, I'll tell you one thing. The first month I
did have a half dose, so I think it's gonna
be okay. And now with a full dist I'm not
gonna drink. It is processed through your liver from what
I understand, So you don't want to like stress out
your liver more, Oh.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Liver and acutine rise you out, yes, not just like
your mouth, your brain.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
I bought a lip mask advertised by Sydney Sweeney and
it's grapefruit scented. But yes, that's the one.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Now, let's since we're talking about Sydney, she's selling bars
of soap with her bathwater in it.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
I did not purchase.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Those, okay, so that's not good for this is actually.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
An independent brand that she's indoors sitting rather than bathwater.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
She is making recession indicator. So you understand that is
that is on grounds of of energy.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
I know, yeah, but I don't think that's a recession indicator.
Because Sidney Sweeney is booked. She's like the spokesperson and
the face of I don't know, at least fifteen brands.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
She didn't need to sell bathwater, set don't That's what
I'm saying, Why are you selling bathwater that? Because we
then will buy it.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
It's also like you sort of just have to keep
your name out there, you know what I mean? And
I also things, here's what I think about Sydney.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
It's not feeling good.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Here's what I think about Sidney. I think Sydney is
actually making way more like indie niche choices and the
types of projects she does. So in order to make money,
she has to sell the bath water because she's going
independent spirit mode rather than marvels in.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
The face of Chanel. I know, the cutting her a
cute chick.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
She's one of the like land Home or one of
these houses, like she don't need to do.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
It, do you think Cocashanello would be happy to know
Sidney Sweeney's carrying on her left.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Saying it's a mixed mash of the brands. It's not.
You do not sell your bath water unless hey, are
the lights getting cut off?

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Well, wasn't she complaining a couple of years ago about.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
How hard it doesn't have generational wealth? Yes, she doesn't
have generational wealth because you know, because she's voted for
drum again, you gotta go high low. I'm I'm to
Sydney on this one. Isn't that? Do you know what?
She's not endorsing a meme coin cryptocurrency. She's doing something fun.
She's doing something funky? Is their sense of literally? Also,

(17:03):
you know, after her performance in that Glen Powell movies,
you has to proof of comedic chops because that did
not do it, and so anyone but you. Selling the
bathwater I think is like a nice way for her
to dip her toes back into the comedic waters.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Do you think it's actual bathwater in the soap? No,
you think it's just bars of soap.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
The gimmick. It's like when people it's like these cheetos
smell like Brad pits, arm pits.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
It's like, Okay, somebody was selling a candle that smelled
like they're vagina?

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Who was that goop? And I believe that actually she.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Inge that.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
I think that it would be very true. How do
we get the po water in the wax?

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Well, I mean you would use water to make a candle,
I presume at some point, so instead of that water,
you use the You could say.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
For pride, I was going to say, before we move on,
said her performance with Glenn Powell.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
First of all, Glenn Powell is running laps around a
lot of people, so that was gonna be a hard Oh.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Oh, I think she's an amazing performer, but I don't
think she was able to do rom com.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
I think she could do funny, but not rom com
like there was something Yes, Sidney, Yes, yes, that's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
But also Glenn on top of that, Yes, he's too good,
But also I think I don't I'm able to rewatch
the performance. He's that good to wait, hold on, you
think I'm thinking about Glenn Close? Never mind?

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Oh my day, you thought there was a lesbian romance
with Glenn Close and Sydney Sweeney. Glenn Glenn Close and
Sydney Sweet.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Wait wait a minute, you're like, because Glenn Tipole is amazing,
I was like, is he a Nazi? Glenn Close and
Deliverance I didn't watch.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
I did actually watch the one clip of her being possessed,
and I thought she gave an incredible performance.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
I haven't seen it. She's taking risks, she.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Is, She's saying things I would never say on camera.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
She said, she said, nappy busy. That's correct. Yeah, you whispered?
Why we whisper and pussy on the bus? I already said,
you know it's it doesn't just roll off the time
for me.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
It literally rolls off later, rolls after.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
You don't know what is this? And you shut up? Hell?

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Hell okay anyway, Glenn Close, Glenn Powell Tomato tomorrow, Yeah, Glen,
then they both.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Now I want to watch like an age gap romance
between Glenn Close and Sydney Sweemy. You know Glen sort
of maybe like a professor or like a writer or something.
Sidney Sweeny looks up to her. Maybe Seyhon he's a
journalist profiling her and Glenn Close, you know, comes out
of the shower, rope comes off.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Mm you feel like, Glenn Close is a woman that
like when she come out the shower, that robe is tied.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Oh she's showering with a turtleneck on. Don't get twisted.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
No, Sydney's robe is going to slide off. Don't don't
you do that to Glenn Close. She she has sex appeal.
That's what it sounded like, is that you're that she
can't give you know, she can give.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
The you know, that's not That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying there's no way her rope would slip off.
The women that age, they tie it tight something else.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
It's belted twice, it's melted tie.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
If wanted to give you, she can give it.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Sydney's listen, Glenn is the original you know faddal attraction
like crazy crazy, Wait, what's.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
That movie with the with the violinists or the orchestra.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
That's Kate Blanchette.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Kate Blanchette. I think if they did Tar with Glen
Glenn Closes in Sydney Sweeney.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
That's good. Remake Tar now four years later with Glenn
Close and Sydney Swen.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yes, you are there, it is listen, we are really
getting room.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Get us do Actually, they think like where are the
new ideas? And by the way, Tartark counts even though
it's even though it is a you know, franchise, it
counts as a new idea.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
It is, it's a it's brand new. They're remaking a
bunch of movies. I heard they're remaking The Bodyguard and
they wanted to retart with Kim Kardashian.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
How dare they? I heard they wanted.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
To redo it with Kimberly Kardashian.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Hey, aliens, if you're listening, this is the time shut
it down.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
I want to What I want to see is Kim Kardashian.
But she plays the bodyguard and it's Kim, So can
we get everyone to move? That's her as the bodyguard
and then the pop star is closed.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
I'm actually for that. I'm crazy.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
I mean because if we're if we're just doing remakes
and sequels, then mix it up. It's like, okay, so
they're making a Barney. Wait why like to say that?

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Well, yeah, yeahs doing it.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah exactly, she's writing the barn right, Yes, this feels
like an episode of the studio.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
It's what I'm saying is it's like, all right, if
you're gonna make a Barney movie, then okay, make it's
like we have to make ip. Then make it funny
or make it like weird, make it make it different
like cast when closest Barney like And so I think, okay,
if you're going to remake The Bodyguard, do a gender flip,
do a lesbian do like.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
I love a thriller. Let's bring all those movies back.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
A messy like somebody cheated on their husband and everybody's.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Got to die now thriller totally. Where are those movies? Well, no,
I think people are not taking enough risks in this
in the terms of everybody wants to be cool and
have the biggest names to get the biggest straw. But like,
there was times where people were doing things like Vampire
in Brooklyn. Eddie Murphy and his peak was doing Vampire
and Brooklyn with Angela Bassett and that was one of

(22:52):
the coo keiest, like random movies. But it was great.
I loved it.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
People are too afraid to do stuff like that anymore.
It's not people, it's the studios. It's the executives. You know,
they get fired a lot, so they're like, well, let
me just do what works, and it works.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Do something better.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
I see you got your eight twenty four blouse own? Yeah, George,
fun movies? What you got going on a mix?

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well?

Speaker 3 (23:17):
You know, I might have had one line on the
show Z Way four years ago. And this was in
the Queen Room when I arrived, and I've been wearing
it since.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
It looks like a good quality cord.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
It is a very good quality cordon, and that's why
that's why I wear it out. You know, you don't
usually see me in a T shirt.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
No, No, I think something ironed.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Yeah, fold Yeah, this is a high quality heavyweight tea
they call it. I know, what is a twenty four making?
I mean, did they do a norma? No? No, that
was Neon right, you know Neon has won the last
eight doors. I can look at.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yourue this mess. I don't even know what you have.
I haven't been.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
And then I have to go there to get the
news you got from the valley. So wait, who on who.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
Hellol george'sha Yeah, okay, So everything inspired by my experience

(24:32):
drinking on accutane, I now have had to embrace non
alcoholic beverages, and my mess is, generally speaking, the beverage industry.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
I and here's here's sort of like my angle on it.
It's like it kind of symbolizes all the excesses of capitalism.
You go into a bodega or into the supermarket, go
to the beverage section. What are all those things? I've
never They keep multiplying exponentially every month, and You're like,
is this THHC? Is this the kombucha? Is this some

(25:04):
sort of like mocktail? Is this healthy? Is this You
see descriptions that are like infused with neuropathogens, and You're like,
it's not real, but so is there are the Is
there any kind of you know, even in a pre
RFK world, is there any kind of like regulation that

(25:27):
prevents someone from writing anything they want on a canned
drink that is sort of like pastel purple colored? And
so I currently am you know, when I drink alcohol,
I know exactly what I want. I know exactly what
I'm ordering Now that I can't, I'm exploring these other options,
and I'm running into a lot of walls where I'm
like this, none of this advertise, none of this correctly advertised.

(25:47):
There is way too much choice. I should not have
to choose between more than three choices at any given
time in my life. And so that and I think there's.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
All this because you have to be sober, yes, saying
so are you what are you drinking?

Speaker 3 (26:02):
What mocktails are you drinking?

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Maybe I've been doing this for almost eight years and
I'm telling you they are dragging me from here to back.
Because the thing is is that like ginger beer, I'll
do a ginger beer, will muddle some stuff together, and
then that's still fifteen dollars. So it's like I'd rather
just get like a little cran club and call it
a today because it's not for us, It's for the
people who have alcohol. Yeah, and then I gotta go

(26:23):
to dinner with these people who drink it any now
and thinking about me. So I'm splitting the bill with
them every single time, I know, and they're not like, hey,
Sydney didn't have you know, three espresso martinis, but she
was here. She was here, so she's part of the table.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Well, I actually think a reason to get an overpriced
mocktail is exactly because of the bill splitting, because it's like, well,
if I'm gonna be paying for everyone else's bottle of
wine anyway, I might as well try the cucumber jalapango
like sprints her.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yes, yes, with the beverage.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Talking about yeah, I'm more talking. I'm not talking about
ordering really, I'm talking about like ready made, bottled and
canned beverages. Do you not agree that there are too many?
Like when you lent to a supermarket and you look
at that entire row, you're so not impressed this topic?

Speaker 1 (27:05):
No, no, no, we're trying to wear I was like, oh,
this this is really niche.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
I know, I know, I love it.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
So you hate that there's too many options, or you
hate that you don't know which one to pick.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
I feel like the entire industry is lying, Like I
think this is like I think all of these things
are some version of like seltzer mixed with like chemicals. Absolutely,
and I just think there's too much lying. My initial
topic was going to be New York theater audiences. Have
you been to like a play?

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I saw Gypsy the other day?

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yeah, okay, well Gypsy was obviously, but every time it's
like you go to a play and someone on stage
is like now with fascism rising, and people are like, oh,
finally Thomas set it. Finally we're like hello.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Oh, they really want people to talk about the political.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
It's just like so it is. You know how in
comedy we have clapped and it's looked down upon. That's
all theater? Yes, crazy, did you?

Speaker 1 (28:00):
I did not. I did not go to I went
to othello, Oh yeah, and Jake Jillenhall it was amazing.
But also we know othello, that language is complicated and boring,
and so it's three hours and you are listening to

(28:24):
them kind of speak Shakespeare and patois is that what
we would call that? And I was like piecing things
together because I had already known the story, and so
because of the movements, I said, oh, I know what's
happening right now. And what was crazy is that there
were people sleeping. That That is what's fucked up about
the audience. It's I'm gonna put every time they say

(28:47):
this in the reviews that we all we do is
drag white people. And so what there was so many elderly,
elderly white people nodding off at Denzel Washington and Jake Jillenhall,
and I said, go go out and.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Die and they and they hate hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Do you know what, let's just should my mess just
be Broadway audiences.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
I'm not mad at that about Broadway.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
So okay, Broadway audiences are. It is old, some of
them deceased white people, and that then like occasionally wake
up to cheer for uh fascism, for yes, for fascism rising,
and then they go back, yes.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
I can I say this.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
I feel like when the first time I ever went
to see a Broadway show, I thought, oh, people are
going to be dressed up and.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yes, the theater.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah, And so I always try to dress like, you know, nice,
I'm not wearing like a gown or anything like that.
But when I get there, people got on boot cut
jeans and mud splattered this, that and the third, and I.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Remember like, yes, I remember thinking, you dress up when
you go to the theater, and now I know not
to dress up, but I'm like, I'm not wearing shorts.
Then you get there and you see a man in cargo.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Shorts and an old Navy performance fleece.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Odre is almost like literally belting until she passes out
every day.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
And you're in airing her solo there and you got
a you got you a midrofol you got the back
of your knees touch in the chair.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
My issue with theater altogether is the prices is it's
extremely classes. How is anybody supposed to go to this
if it's eight hundred one thousand dollars in the lowest
ticket is two hundred.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
So it's the only thing I don't feel. I ask
for theater tickets all the time. It's the only thing
I email publicists about. I don't yeah, no, no, not mine,
but like other but like people that work in theater,
I don't get free. You know, I'm not famous enough
to get free like products or like sponsored to training
like that. But you start meeting people that work in

(30:50):
theater and you know who to email, They'll give you.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Free let's got the field trip or whatnot.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
And then you know what happens is if you get
a few for free, then when you do pay for one,
you're like, okay, so this is three hundred dollars. That's
like as though I paid one hundred for each of
the ones I went to.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yes, that's that's girl math.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah that is yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
But all the money that people are paying tickets, is
it going to the artists or it's going to the theater?

Speaker 3 (31:19):
I do think from what I understand I remember at
one point Cole explained this to me early on, like
it is just it just does cost so much to
make theater, and like it would be lovely if the
government funded more of it, like in you know, I'm
sure in Sweden theater tickets are like two dollars and

(31:40):
it's like an amazing performance and everyone has a great
time and then goes out and has non alcoholic cocktails.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Well, I was told that Broadway performers don't really get
paid that way, That's what I heard.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
I know, but even even without getting paid, well, it
still costs that much.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Well, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
The theater that I was at the last time to
see Audra do what she did. The seats were the
roads were so close together, like obviously like stadium seating.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
But my knees, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
And I'm five four, so I don't know how anybody
else was sitting in them. And I had boots on
because you know, I was like, yeah, I'm dressed up.
I had to turn my knees to the side I could,
like my sister I had. We crossed our legs over
each other so we could stretch them.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
It was crazy, yeaheah.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
I mean, it's this funny thing. It's almost like a
like going to Disneyland because it is for tourists and
it's way more expensive than it should be. I remember
when I found out how expensive Disneyland was, I was like,
I'm sorry, So all these gay guys I know have
been paying like three hundred dollars every time they go.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Now I see why Shonda Rhimes asked for it. I'm
extra tickets. She said, listen, yeah, I need somem for
my sister. And they were like, don't you have enough?
And She's like, I don't and she said, and now
I'm my net. Yeah, disney Land.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Mess Meture gets a free ticket and Netflix toot them live.
So let's say you're a normal person, You're not like
super wealthy, you shell out three hundred and fifty dollars
to go to the theater. Suddenly you have to be
in the presence of all these people who like are
so out of touch and don't have good taste and
are reacting to the wrong things. And it's their taste
level that is dictating what gets put on stage too.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, that's when I was. When I went to go
see Slave Play, there was a lot of times where
and I at the time, I was dating this like
militant black woman and I took her there for her
birthday us a slave place, slave play. I was like,
because everybody's talking about it, and you know, I know Jeremy,
and I was like, oh yeah, let me go. Because

(33:43):
we were surrounded I know, I know older or older
white people and they the stuff that they were laughing at.
She's like like, she was so pissed, and she like
and we were sitting in the middle and she just
was like, we're getting up, we're going, we're leaving dag
and I said, hey, we we probably got tam moment.
It is like that She's like, I've had enough, and

(34:05):
I was like, you don't get it. But I think
she was uncomfortable with watching it with the audience the people.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yes, exactly, because it's like when you are writing something
you and you know, God willing it gets on Broadway,
you have to literally almost write it with the mindset
that it is going to be viewed by this very
select group of people, which is not the case for
writing like a movie or a TV show or an album. Mmmm,
Like there's a very good chance that literally won't reach

(34:32):
the people that you are trying to appeal to, because
tickets are like four hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Play for free. Yeah, well there was. He did do
a night where it was like a blackout night and there.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
I think there were multiple nights.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, there was so many nights where if you were
it will be cheaper or whatever. But yeah, we went
on the night. I spent really good, so much money
for these tickets. We did not have sex that night.
We did not have sex. I hate that for you.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
I think if you buy broabaly take, you should be
entitled to some compensation.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
I did not get.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
But I know you think a lot of people are
not having sex.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
It's I think somebody might have went to see it
and they say it was hot for them.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
I don't know, like an interracial couple.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Okay, like Shannon Sharp exactly. Unk was getting it in
after healed them tight jaggers off and he took his
A six off as well. Wait, what's another play that
I went to go see that? I was like, oh,
I saw Tina, I saw the MJ Broadway. Great, it

(35:38):
was amazing. I mean again, these somebody else paid for
these tickets, so I was like, oh, I have no, No.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
They're always better when somebody else pays for them. No,
not always. But now I'm trying to decide if I
want to see between Sunset Boulevard, which is the Cat
Dolls Girl or.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Death Becomes Her.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Okay, that's a really good question. So is this amazing
radio for everyone? Me analyzing whether you should see SnSe
Blevard Get people Quick.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
One is?

Speaker 3 (36:09):
I would say both are great options. First of all,
you can't go wrong. Death Becomes Her is like so
high camp, like fun sight gags, like crazy sequences of
like a body double getting like punched in the face
and then you see the other woman come in behind
him and like just like really great funny physical comedy performances.

(36:31):
Sunset Boulevard is like, first of all, it's a tour
de force from like it's good that she's getting all
the praise, like she deserves all the praise. It's like
an incredible performance from the closuresinger it is you say
that name singer? It is a very bear do you
know the vibe of that? It's like a bear set.
There's like nothing on stage and it's all people wearing

(36:52):
like all black or whatever. You don't want that she
hasn't a slip dress.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
All the time I go to see Broadway, I want
to see Broadway wardrobe, set design, Broadway like I want
to see like people from all over the world come
here to do their art, and Broadway is like, you know,
top tier theater. I don't want to see a black
box you got on a negligee that you got from
Ali Express.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Well.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I think that's another thing I'm often shocked by on
Broadway is like you think, Okay, I'm paying four hundred dollars,
it should be like flying sets and like people. It
should be everything should be Harry Potter the Musical. If
I'm paying four hundred dollars, there should be here paying
quidditch above me at all times. And then sometimes you
go and it's like, okay, it's a couch and an
armchair and it's about a family. At Christmas, No.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
I saw a movie a play Jake Jillen Hall was
in and it was just him monologuing in the dark
for an hour or two.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
I was like, this is trash. No, no, no, and
maybe not trash, but just not what you expected that
should be.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
But what you're describing should be more affordable.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yes, well was. I also didn't pay for that ticket,
so I don't know. It wasn't off Broadway because it
is on broad Broadway?

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Is is more affordable?

Speaker 1 (38:00):
More affordable? Right? I went to see uh, Wicked? We
all went to go see Wicked.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Oh yeah, they spent money on that. Yes we know
where her money is going for Wicked.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
I like the movie better than.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
I haven't seen the I haven't seen the show. I
will say I didn't know anything about it going in.
I saw the movie, I'd never seen the show. I
ultimately got on board, but the assault of musical theater
energy was shocking to me.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Do you like musical theater or not?

Speaker 3 (38:31):
I'm getting into it, But that sound like you don't
like it?

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Ye? Like that? Talk to us? Right?

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Just like so much? So many bright colors, so many
crazy costumes. Everyone is at one hundred and ten. By
the way, they're doing a great job. I'm not like
that is what the script calls for, but it's so
much like my ideal movie is a woman getting divorced.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Shut up, Okay, what's the lady with the red hair?

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Juliana Julianne Moore, literally Julianne Moore she's getting a divorce
and she's growing close for her daughter. That's my ideal.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Okay, So you're also like, it sounds like you're a
big Nicole.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Kidman love a Nicole Kidman movie.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
You know, she plays the same role over and over.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Yeah, the whigs are different every time.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
The wigs are different, but she's the same, She's the same.
I just saw a baby Girl finally, you know, not,
I was not. I just saw it because people were
talking about it so much, and I finally, you know,
I got I finally got my hands on a HBO
Max password. You know you don't have one. I'm paid.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
I actually thought she was great and it and so
is and so is he. But yeah, what is great?

Speaker 1 (39:31):
What someone explained to me close slash. So you're saying,
Nicole Kidman playing a rich boss bitch risking it all
for an intern. What what even if she's acting, what
is so empowering about that movie? But great doesn't equal empower. Yeah,

(39:54):
you're cheating on Antonio Bandettez.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
I think that hold on, hold on, I mean that
is crazy. That is the craziest part that was he
was miscast. Although maybe it's like maybe honestly it's about
like she has so much trauma that not even Antonio
Benders can make her come. I think that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
They supposed to believe that this thirty year old intern,
he wasn't even thirty.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Again, he wasn't even thirty. You're thinking too literally about
the men. This is about her. It's like the men
could be anyone. It could be Garfield the cat, like
she is the one that has to have this journey
of self discovery.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Okay, well I need her to do a live laugh
love or I need her to go on that type
of trip. I don't want to see her making these decisions, yeah,
in a cubicle or off like a upskill.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Did you like when she went to the Raven Business
casual she was in.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
The express Satin Satin time.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
He said, the pussy bow stays on when I'm on Molly.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
I could not believe it. I was like, come on, Nicole,
I think she had a briefcase.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Seet sending an email. It's like she did, but we
need to get on a Microsoft Teams meeting.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
She did.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Everything is just an iteration.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
So Sidney, I complete agree with you, but I would
encourage you. Have you done a deep dive into like
pre big little eyed Nicole because she is. Yes, but
have you seen birth? No?

Speaker 1 (41:14):
No?

Speaker 3 (41:14):
All right, so get ready for this. Ready. First of all,
pixie cut picture it.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
But it's the same color pixie cut picture it.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
She is a woman, a widow, her husband died. Young
kid shows up, tells her he's the husband reincarnated.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
The kid.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yes, he knows all this stuff about her, and she
starts believing this, my husband reincarnated as a kid. That's
the premise of the movie. You're telling me, don't want
to I'm not gonna spoil.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Okay, what's the most important for me? Is she poor?

Speaker 3 (41:45):
No?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Okay, I don't. I don't want to see. Are Nicole
Kidman rich doing well?

Speaker 3 (41:52):
I take all of that you destroyer?

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Is she on the streets?

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yes, on the streets?

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Okay, yeah, we have.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Destroyer. And it's funny because Nicole Kidman is so naturally
first of all beautiful, and second of all, like you know,
her face is what it is, and so in order
to make her seem more down to earth, they can't
do anything to her actual face. So they just like
cover her with like soot, like that's how you're supposed
to know.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
We're after the console. Make her do they put it
like a tan on her as well?

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Yeah, a little bit, but it's most dark getting Nicole up. No, no, no, no,
it's more like she's tanned because you know she's out
in the sun and she and and bags under her eyes.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Okay, destroyed.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
I'm trying so no filler, trying to think though, this
is such a good prompt, like which movies is Nicole
Kidman poor? And like this is such a good problem Dogville.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
I've never even heard of you.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
You guys would not like Dogill. You know why, because
it's the gimmick is that it's there's no sets. It's
all on a sound stage, So you would hate it
because you want death becomes her, you know what I mean?
This is more it's a it's a movie, but it's
like it might as well be a play.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
No, we don't want me and Marie have to watch
Destroyer and go live. Make comments about.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
For Jennifer's body, Karen Kuama, Okay.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Jennifer's body.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Yeah, that was for the Megan Fox, Yes, Megan Fox.
What other movies is Nicole poor in?

Speaker 2 (43:23):
She's not poor in anything, because we don't believe that
she could she just you know, maybe because she can't
do a poor accent.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
You know she's Australian, she's sound American.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Yeah she's not. But you see an eyes white shut.
Yeah that's good. Do you do you not like I did, like, yeah,
that's agreement.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Yeah, but that I didn't see. There was felt more
artistry built into that. And even with the script and this,
like the setting, the set design, it just it just
gave me more what she's used with. She was in
another thing that was an HBO that was just another
thing of like white Lotus, the.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
One with the giant, giant green coat that she was wearing.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
That one. What about the one on Netflix?

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Wish yet the couple of the perfect couple, Perfect couple? Yeah, yeah,
you know, I watched every single episode and then there's another.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
I watched it at Cydny's house. Oh yeah, what they'll watching.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Everything now is about rich people. I'm tired of it.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
But everybody is not rich.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Yeah, but it's like they're counting on normal people wanting
to gawk at rich people. And also you sort of
like don't have to get it right because not enough
of us are one percenters that we would like understand
what the flaws are whereas if you make a show about,
you know, a barista dating a you know, candlestick, candlestick.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
You're just throwing anything out there. Hungry barista dating a candlestick.
That's for people's stuff. There's a rich person would be
dating a chandelier. Yescually like this, get in the laby this.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Down, and a rich person is a poor personating the
pussy candle or or a normal candle.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Oh, the pussy candle was like nine hundred dollars. I
don't know. Goo was not charging. It's not for the
it's for.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
An m pussy candle. It's just like a random random woman.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
No, I'm going to get chlamydia from that candle. No,
thank you. I'm also that's the name of the candle.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
But it's spelled with a little umlaut.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Okay, so fully against I don't I don't want to
see and I enjoy Nicole Kidman, but I want her.
I want her to make a shift.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
I understand. I understand.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
So there's that for me.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
I understand that, And I actually, as a really big
Nicole Kidman fan, I agree with you that it's been
a bit one note in terms of like rich rich
woman with trauma over and over again.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
But I think that this is this is what some
actors do, right. They find their niche or they find
their lane, and they just do those types of movies
until now they have to play somebody's mom or somebody's dad.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Yeah, And I do think it is difficult for you know,
actresses as the age because I'm like, what are the
stories about non rich older women? Like, what was the
last movie that was about a non rich older woman?
She was rich and tar Orchestra's expensive?

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Yeah, what else? I want to be quite frank with you,
I'm not a movie buff. I don't really watch movies
that much, Okay, And if I do watch movies, they're
from yeah, because that that really gets me going. It
makes me feel inspired. I feel like I keep watching
up to date movies that are just another iteration of

(46:42):
something that's already been done.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
I know. So, are you more film TV or music.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
TV? I'm more TV. I just I watched The Pit
and I felt like that we need more The Pit.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
You are prestige proceid, yes.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
But for some reason it feels a little low budget,
like not the not the energy. But I really do
feel like I'm in Philly somewhere in this you know
dead end hospital that everybody's working so hard to keep up.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Well, you're in Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Okay, there it is. Wow, I really get where is Pittsburgh?
What state is that?

Speaker 3 (47:26):
So it is going to go ahead and be in Pennsylvania's.
But here's a thing about Pittsburgh. Because sometimes I've been
trying to plan a tour and you think, Okay, Philly Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Not the same, so far, not the same.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
You can't do Philly, Pittsburgh Boston. No, you can't cancel
our Pittsburgh day because it didn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
It's at least sixty two people, very disappointed.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
That's the fuck up, Marie.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
You're going to be exactly show.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
That's not true, because if you're at Bottle Rocket, they
have more than sixty.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
And I loved I performed their last year and I
loved it, and I really wanted to return. But if
you're doing if you're trying to do more in less time,
it just doesn't make sense. It's too far Pittsburgh, Marie.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
But I don't think anybody in Pittsburgh is looking for me.
That's what you think.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
They are a good audience.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
She's not interested.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
She's not interested at all. What is your best the
two of you, like, what is your best city other
than New York, Lan and Chicago.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
In terms of where I like to perform?

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yeah, yeah, well I think I'm excited to discover some
of those cities this year, right, Like, I'll be in
Toronto and I feel like I've only ever heard good
things about that. You know, I'm doing Zany's in Chicago
this year, and I'm excited to do that.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
I just want to be in.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Like, you know, small Q clubs with people who you
know have taste enough taste that they voted ticket to
see me.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
I love d C, d C. It's true. It's a
mix of people, and there's cute people, there's fun people,
there's educated people, there's down to earth people. People so
very closeted.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
It's kind of retro and fun in a way. You know,
everyone's closeted.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Oh you know they're closeted.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
You see you because of because of the government. All
of them are like closeted and working in the government
some cards.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
But out there at your show and you're like, how
did you find out about.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
They're at my show? They're skinny Kaki girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Yeah, it's skinny Khaki girlfriend. Yeah. New Orleans is the
fund need city to perform into.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
New Orleans is just a fun city.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
I almost got kidnapped there? What miss when? When I went, wait,
how did you get kidnapped? I didn't say I got
house got kidnapped. Well, I remember the guy he wanted
to eat your ass? Yeah I remember that, not that guy.
That's different. Okay, what you have to other so you
can't just say I almost got kidnapped.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
So I was out in New Orleans and there was
this couple that was like out and the woman was
like flirting with me a lot, and I'm kind of
I'm just like like I will flirt back, but like
to a point.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
And I went.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Into the bathroom and she followed me into the bathroom
because she also needed to pee, and so like now
my spidy senses are kind of tingling, but like, nothing
happened in the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
I peed.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
I checked above the stall to make sure she wasn't
watching me. I checked below the stall. They might have
been a camera looking at my butt.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
I come out and I'm like, damn, I really wish
I had some weed I want to smoke, and she
was like, oh, we.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Have plenty of well people are kidnapping, Holly, people are kidnapping.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
And I was like, oh, where, Like is it here?
And she's like no, it's like it's at the house,
right babe, right babe.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
And he's like, yeah, like you you could tell that
she's kind of like the ringleader of all of this,
Like she liked me, she wanted to hook up, so
he had to just be down for that and uh,
but he also was like down for whatever she was saying.
And she's like, yeah, no, it's it's at the house.
We'll weed at the house. Just come back with us

(51:19):
and we'll we'll smoke together. And she was like, I'm
not that far. And I said where do you live?
And then she said where it was and it was
like it was like a forty five minute drive from
where I was. I wasn't gonna get in the car anyway,
but for you to tell me it's close and then
you're trying to take this is trafficking. This is this
is what Diddy's on troll for.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Yeah, Okay, Marie, I'm gonna be honest with you. This
was not you did not escape kidnapping.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
She was.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
He went to bring the van around and she fully
was trying to get me in the car. Yeah, I
did escape a kidnapping.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Believe women, Believe Natalie Hollaway.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
George, what did this couple? Because you know, I'm of
course imagining like women with purple or blue PIXI cut
man with ponytail? How far or close?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
It was a light skinned black woman and a white man.
And I said, you saw it?

Speaker 1 (52:15):
You could see it again?

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Are you attracted to either of them?

Speaker 1 (52:17):
No? No? Is this when we went for a mina? No?
This is when I went for Molly.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Oh god, oh Cyrus?

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Another? Does this give Molly Cyrus? Honestly? Maybe free tickets?

Speaker 3 (52:33):
I will never forget when I did unofficial expert. You
guys dragged me because I said I had seen Rihanna
and concert and you were like, why would you go
see Rihana? You can't even sing? And I was like, wait,
I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
I can not say that. We did not say that.
That doesn't even sound I remember. Yeah, I haven't said,
I just I don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
If I didn't listen, that's how I remember it.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
I don't remember that. How many times did you see
Rihanna live?

Speaker 3 (52:58):
This was a while ago. This was like I'm trying
to think if it was pre Anti or if it
was the Anti tour.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
What's your favorite? Rihanna probably puts on a good I.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Would say, well, first of all, my favorite album is
I'm just a big Anti like fanboy. What is my
favorite Rihanna's song?

Speaker 1 (53:12):
I will say Auntie has like twenty songs on it.
I know, I know, so you're gonna have at least
five or six that you like.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
Wait, I'm gonna look up. I'm gonna look up like.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
I can't believe you dragged us. I couldn't believe that
you throw something like that.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
That feels it does feel like something we could have said, No,
you're repeat it.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Honestly, they're gonna have to pull it up if they
think that we said something like that.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
George, how were you the expert on when you did
the unofficial expert?

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Do you remember I have no I think Greek?

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Yeah, it might have been grease grease or Greek? Yes,
that yeah, I was. It was the Greek expert like
Greek friend. You know, I love I do love love
on the brain, I do love Esperado. I do love work.
But honestly, I have to say I like Auntie Moore
as an album than like, if I'm picking favorite songs,
I'm gonna go.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Like George, you're giving me like college college fan of Rihanna,
like your your dist.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Yes, well, you know I have a theory that each
of her albums corresponds to each of my years in college.
And do you want to hear it?

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Yes? Okay, and then we'll do it. And then we
have messages.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Yeah, we'll do you want to, we'll share some miss
So the albums that came out while I was in
college are Good Girl Gone Bad, loud talk that talk,
and unapologetic. All right, freshman year, Good Girl Gone Bad.
I'm in college. Good Girl Gone Bad. That speaks for itself. Second,
you're loud. Now we're like, now we're cooking.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
What were you doing to be loud?

Speaker 3 (54:33):
I know how? Like it's like now you know who
your friends are, you're going out, You're like having a
good time. You're loud, you're being yourself.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
What's sophomore year?

Speaker 3 (54:40):
I mean senior year? Talk that talk? Time to get serious,
time to declare your major, and time to maybe start
thinking about your future. Time to talk. That talk okay,
senior year, unapologetic talk talk didn't work out now and
now you have to say this is who I am
and I'm not apologizing for it.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Hello, well damn would have maybe done better in college
if I did it that way?

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Did you I feel like I was a good girl
gone bad? None was. We fell in love and hopeless place.
That was my whole college situation.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
You were said, yes, it is as the title says,
we found love in a hopeless place.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Oh man, I mean you just love correcting queen.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Fell in love and hopelessly.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
We fell in love and it also kind of works.
You know what I meant?

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Do you know what I love? Actually, I would say
as much as I love, we found love in terms
of the classics, if only Girl in the World comes on,
I'm in a I'm in a better mood than if
we found love comes on at this stage in my life,
like if I'm out, I prefer only girl.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
So we found yes, because we found love is toxic.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Yeah, I didn't want that.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
You're in a better place.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
You're yeah involved, I've evolved.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
You have emergency contact now.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
True, A good one picks up.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Listen, we.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
I'm not your emergency contact. I don't have to pick up.
We talked about this, we did. You said, I'm not
your emergency contact?

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Is?

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Are you hers?

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Why she has a family? See, you only use your
friends with emergency contact if you're an orphan, and that.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
Is it's a hard life, all right.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Let's read a message from a listener and then we'll
talk about. If it's messy, we'll get your take on
its long. So strap in, get your popcorn and get
your juice. Put your feet up, Hey, sid and Marie
is your girl? Yara from Toronto writing in again? Oh
a second letter at okay, Hey girl. I've written into

(57:02):
the pod back in twenty twenty about having my very
first one night stand okay, and another time about getting
ghosted for the first time.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Oh hey sis, back to back.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
I'm happy to share that I am finally no longer
for the streets and I've found myself an incredible partner
mm hm, and I'm currently moving in with them.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
The mess I'm bringing today isn't about my partner, but
about my best friend.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Some context. This friend and I have been close for
about five years ride or die type. She's also a
central figure in our friend group which makes this even
more complicated. Throughout our friendship, we've had a couple fallen outs,
always centered around me not meeting some expectation. She never
clearly communicated right.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
It usually starts with her icing me out, and only
when I ask what's wrong does she open up with
a long message about how I'm not supportive enough, or
I don't check in enough, or I did something three
years ago that upset et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
I take accountability, adjust my behavior.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Things would improve briefly, then repeat nothing I did was
ever enough. I check in more, Nope, I need to
check in more intentionally. I check in more intentionally, Nope,
the attention seems fake.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Now, okay girl. As you can tell, I had a
lot of patience for this friend.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
I owned up to everything, listened, and tried harder each time.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
But by last October I broke.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
I had spread myself too thin trying to be better,
but she was coming back to me weekly about how
I was failing her and not being a good friend.
I eventually took a step back from all my friendships,
thinking I was the problem. Like your best friend comes
to you every few months or weeks to tell you
you're not good enough because of X, Y Z, and
no matter what you do, it's never enough. The psychological

(58:47):
damage went ze. I ended up isolating myself for months. Okay,
this is crazy, but with help from my partner and therapist.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Shout out to the partner and there there is. You
gotta do the double whammi every time.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Yeh, yeah, yeah, I'm glad you're not in the streets.
I realized that I was never the problem, and this
friend has been projecting her issues onto me and treating
me like an emotional punching bag. I finally saw that
I wasn't the villain here, and I was able to
release myself from the guilt I felt about being this
so called terrible friend and began to heal. I was
ready to reintegrate myself into the friend group, but I

(59:21):
knew I needed to have a conversation with her first.
Well I'm sure you can guess how that conversation went.
I had hoped we could find common ground and move forward,
but she somehow flipped the script again and took zero accountability.
I thought that in the time apart, she would be
able to reflect and see things from my side, but
it's clear now She'll always be the victim in her
story and how she treats me is justified.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Okay, WHOA.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
This conversation lasted four hours and ended up with us
agreeing to start fresh to put this all behind us. However,
this conversation actually solidified things for me and prove that
this is not someone I wanted my life anymore. Although
I'm scared about leaving this friendship could mean lose the
whole group, it's time to let this beach go.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
So my question is this. Is it messed to quietly
fase her out of my life aka go ghost mode
and risk the fallout of losing this friend group or
is it worth one final conversation to end things officially
in set boundaries within the overall group. As always appreciate
you both. Watching the way you show up for each
other reminds me of what a real healthy friendship looks like. PS.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Tickets have been secured for Maurice to Rhino Show in June. Yay,
I stay supporting my favorite comedians. So that's the question
from a Canadian. Is it messed to quietly faser out
or do they need to have another conversation?

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
I know that the type of person who keeps thinking
a conversation is going to fix anything. And I just
think once you have the four hour one and you
still don't have closure, you're not going to get it
with another hour and a half one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
And it's not going to be another hour and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Yeah. And I also think there's a point at which
talking about something just becomes like talking about the talking.
You're just talking about previous things that have been said
in previous things, and like the way things have been framed,
rather than any actual actions that have taken place.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
But also if you see this person, this person sees
you trying to be better, they see you reaching out
and they're like, it doesn't feel intentional, And then you
reach out intentionally You're.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Like, it feels fake. I'm not I'm not doing any
more work here, Like this is mess that you are
guess letting me it also.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Sort of I think I think you want you. Basically,
each of them probably wants the other one to admit
that something is their fault, and that's just never gonna happen.
They each clearly think they're in the right for whatever
they think they're Experiences like this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
One said she took a break from all her friendships,
she she found the Lord, she went on the mountain
and prayed like, it's not like she did all that,
and the other girls just like, no, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
You, It's still you. Now. I'm not a you know,
devil's advocate, but I do want to know what exactly
what are the specific things that she was upset about.
Because if you are a person that gives a lot
and you just give, give, give, and then you're not
receiving the same, then you expect people are not they're

(01:02:06):
not going to act like you. So there's a lot
of things that are going over people's heads that you're
missing because you're like, this is not how they get down,
this is not how they love, this is not their
love language. But you're kind of thinking that that's how
you should be treated and you're not that's what you're
these expectations. So I think that you know, Yara, you
did come to my show when I was there in Toronto.

(01:02:29):
She does seem like a sweet girl. But if someone's
saying you're not showing up for me, I would like
to know what was it that you weren't showing up
for because maybe these the things that I think are
not that important. Other people are like, this is a
big deal, and then I'm like, oh, maybe I should
have made this a big deal or the things that
are a big deal to me, and people are like, oh,

(01:02:51):
what come on now, I move on.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
You miss my birthday dinner? Yeah, you miss my book launch.
You missed my X y Z.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
You're gonna we're missing my If you're missing my book launch,
that's great. I'm going to be mad at you because
I'm not writing another one of those.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
George, have you ever had a like calling, Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
I have had. I've had one major like from one
day to the next, no more talking before. But it
was because of like a specific event that really felt
like a deep betrayal, and we both agree it was
a betrayal, Like he also regrets what he did and
has apologized for it. I was young enough that I

(01:03:38):
wasn't willing to hear it, and so I was like,
right from now and I'm not talking to you. And
at this point it's sort of just like too late
to rekindle it, which is fine, and we are both indifferent.
I no longer hold any negative feelings about it, Like
if somehow we ran into each other, I wouldn't like
have a panic attack, but like we're not going to
go back to being friends like over a decade later.

(01:04:01):
So there was that, which I actually think is a
blessing to have a specific break, you know, like something
where you can point to and be like, I am
mad at you because you did this, and everyone agrees
you shouldn't have done that. What I do struggle with
is friends that clearly you've grown apart from, or even
if it's like asymmetrical, like you think you think you've

(01:04:21):
grown apart and they have not gotten the memo, or
maybe the other way around. I mean I wouldn't I
wouldn't know because I they would have to tell me.
But that is really stressful and I am not good
at like quote unquote drawing boundaries. I will basically just
like you know, I will like respond to every third
text or something, and then it just like creates this

(01:04:45):
like toxic environment where you're like dragging on something for
like fifteen more years.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
So what's the not messy way to do it? Handle it?

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Yeah, sid let them go.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
I mean, if I feel like if we have a
back where we keep having a back and forth, obviously
vibes is off, right, lives is off. We keep going
back and forth right, and then we take a break,
we come back, vibe is still weird. I mean I
have to spell out heya vibes.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Do you have to spell it out for some people?

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Not for me, because not not for me, but saying
like okay, if they're best friends, right like me, me
and Marie. I think that it would we would have
to have like a real talk where I'll be like, Okay,
at the end of the talk, I guess you. I
guess we're not like how we used to be anymore.
Or it'd be like, hey, are we gonna work on this?
Because there's there's also a moment like, let's work on

(01:05:39):
it if you really want this person in your life.
That's why I don't like ghosting. If somebody is important
to you, you wouldn't ghost them. But somebody who you're like,
you know what, Actually, I probably got like two other
type of people in the book right now, I'm good,
you know, then I'll ghost bring it, bring it back?

(01:05:59):
Why Because sometimes we've we've had enough words, I've explained
this to you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
We'd now have had a four hour conversation. You still
think it's just me cool?

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Well, I do think that it's like it people, generally myself,
including to be more comfortable with just like uncertainty, like
not every conversation is going to end with like this
is the end, conclusion, end of story. Acknowledgments like sometimes
you won't get to a point where all parties agree.
But I have another question because to me, to me,
the most mess part of this is the friend group

(01:06:33):
of it all. Yeah, Like it's one thing to go
through a fallout with a best friend, but then for
that to bring into question your placed in the friend
group is what stresses me out. Have you ever iced
someone out of the friend group or been iced out yourself?

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Yes, I have, and I do it again. Sure will not,
Sure will, because it's like friends know what's up, they
know what's that. Like, I'm not telling people to take sides,
but obviously people are gonna be like, well, I'm actually
at the end of the day, I'm closer with this
other person, and you just come in and out when

(01:07:06):
you when you feel like you should. So it's like
and and that's gonna happen. If they just let it rock,
it'll play out the way it's supposed to. I say that.
So if she's like I don't want to talk to
this person anymore. Tell the group, Hey, we were not
really clicking. I'm not really trying to y'all can hang
out if y'all want, but I want to hang out
with y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Well, because she said a couple of things, right, she
said she's the central figure in the friend group, and
then she said is it worth one final conversation and
things officially and set boundaries within the overall group. So
that means she's still trying to be cool with these people.
Or I guess she's afraid that this the Beyonce of
the friend group is going to be like, well, I'm
taking my friends back.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Did she say the central or a central?

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
She said the central girls start over, just get a
new friends. Like that's why you gotta have a couple.
You gotta have more than like three friends. Man, you
gotta have a couple.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
You know. Someone last night was telling me she was
like she said something that stuck with me. She was like,
adult friend groups are creepy, and I was like, that's interesting,
Like obviously we all have we're all part of different
friend groups, but I sort of agree that, Like when
you see a group and they are it's just the
six of them and they are always together and they're
all thirty seven. It's like, you know, like at that point,

(01:08:25):
I do actually think like high school dynamics are recreated
because you are in this like click, you actually have
to be part of different communities and it has to
be porous and you have to have these friends and
these friends. But I do think, I to quote this person,
adult friend groups are creepy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
I mean, we saw white lotus. The three girls that
were on that trip did not like each other.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Yeah, it also seemed to not really know each other
all at well because all this time had passed and
it's just a you were every if your friendships is
just based off we're all meeting up up and we're
all like eating, drinking, da da da da. That's not
That's not a friend group to me. That's like y'all
are acquaintances and y'all meet up from time to surface
level stuffy surface of like I feel like a friend

(01:09:12):
group is. I mean, obviously there's gonna be people who
are closer to each other and nobody feels any type
of way about that. There's an understanding, and then there's
things that people the day to day, but like, yeah,
let them start over, friend, you got to start, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
So. Toronto's a great city. Ye, you'll meet so many people.
I can introduce you to my friends and yeah, yeah, girl.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Go on bumble, don't get kidnapped. But you know, yeah, anyway, George,
tell the people you have coming up so that they
can find you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Yes, so Instagram all that. I host the podcast straight
Lab with Sam Taggart and the two of us are
going on a stand up only tour, no podcast, stand
up only. We're splitting the bill in August. It's September,
so look out for that because we need to sell
tickets to many places. Unfortunately, it's for for the reasons
Oh my god. And and yes and follow me at

(01:10:04):
George Saveris everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Just stand up. It's a wild podcast, no live podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
We're just doing stand okay, and and we're we'll come
out together and do bits and stuff. We'll do a
little bit, we'll do a little proud work, we'll do
a little something. Maybe if we like have some time
to fill do a pod show.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
But but it's it's not going to be a live
I'll see George and his podcast last Yes, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
Be sure to check out the new podcast I'm co
hosting with Virus Smith, United States of Kennedy on iHeart
Radio Podcasts.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Mess with Sydney Washington and Marie Foston is a production
by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio podcast created
and hosted by Sydney Washington and Marie Boston. Executive produced
by Olivia Aguilar and Hans Sonny, super produced by Becca Ramos,
edited a mixed by Brian Jeffries.

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