November 14, 2024 • 55 mins
After too much time away, Josh and Thomas return with a "State of the Union" address on the Chicago Bears. What does Shane Waldron's firing mean for the dynasty values of a franchise that has yet to see a 4,000-yard passer? The guys also outline their favorite playoff-push, league-winning acquisitions for all budgets. Tune in for insights that could give your fantasy team the edge as the season heads to a finish!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I see.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
My friend's name, my fellow Americans. Much has taken place
since the last episode of the Dynasty Exchange, and I
felt it was only necessary to address why the long delay.
So much has happened, massive NFL trades, our country has
gone through an election, Jerry Jones has continued to be well,
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just further spiraling into dementia. So I think you guys
are owed an explanation as to the delay. The reason
is speaking of elections, I actually was meeting with both parties.
I am looking to be appointed secretary Liaison to the NFL.
I had three main running points. We're waiting to hear
back from the side that won. But my first point
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was I would like to turn injuries off for the NFL.
I think that the script writers are way too highly paid.
Number Two, I'd like to change the direction of the
chiefs and the media contracts we have with Taylor Swift.
I think that that's been overplayed. I'd like to change,
you know a little bit more, you know who's gonna
win this year, because what happened with the Broncos this
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last week is just further evidence that someone needs to
be in charge of script writing. And Third, I would
like to send Jerry Jones to a retirement home and
move the Dallas Cowboys into a trust run by Texan
native Texans to Dallas true home field Cowboys fans. I
feel it's a very strong position, and I feel that
if you vote for me in twenty twenty six as
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a write in candidate, they cannot ignore me any longer,
and I'll be in charge of the NFL and save
fantasy for all of our listeners. Thomas, what do you
think about that? That platform pretty solid?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I'm listen. I will be your running mate. Yeah, you
need number two. I got you. I got you. I'll
just you know, I'll just say yes to everything you
tell me to do, and I'll just I'll continue the
work on this. I'll get the ghost of William Holden
and we'll work on the script that's good and try
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to take care of all these injuries and in Kansas
City miraculously win in every game that Taylor Swift attends.
I don't know how that happens, but o and over again, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Just you know, it is, it's it's they They they
probably had budget cuts in the scriptwriter's room and went
to chat GPT and they forgot to turn. It was
just like, hey, it's an oldie buddy goodie. Here's my script.
Tom Brady becomes majority share home holder of the Raiders.
Somehow GMS leads them to a super Bowl to face
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who else but Bill Belichick leading some sort of NFC team,
and so it's Belichick versus Brady one more time, and
it's contentious, and it gets even worse. Tom slides into
the DMS of Belichick's current girlfriend, which is still an
age gap, but it's only it's it's a better one.
(03:03):
It would be owner versus coach, player versus. It would
the storylines. We'd call it daddy issues. It'd be the
Daddy Issues super Bowl. It'd be fantastic.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
There's a deflated balls joke somewhere in there, but I
you know, yeah, that would.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Be if you and I get into office, we could
tease this out. Yeah, we have so many like it'd
be so good.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I'm all about it. Yeah, that would be amazing, amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Listen, it's fun to joke because fantasy sometimes no pun intended,
is better than reality. And at times like this, Thomas,
I know you're kind of a closet Bears fan. It's
it's nice to get lost in fantasy land because reality
is things in the real world are dark things. I mean,
it's how do you react just jumping into the news here?
(03:50):
Shane Waldron? Who you know? And if you've listened to
the show for any amount of time, you Dylan and
I both hate Shane Waldron for Caleb Williams. Not that
I'm a big Kayleb Williams fan, but I just knew that,
even as good of a prospect as he was, Shane
Waldron was not a good hire him being fired. Is
this a sign of just dysfunction within the organization because
it seems that way, or are you just excited because
maybe the offensive coordinator really is the problem.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I'm excited. I think that's a little bit of dysfunction,
but I also believe that it. Man, it's hard to
put pinpoint one person as the culprit for a whole
team looking like the way the Bears have looked, at
least offensively. But I mean, it's well documented that the
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whole team has gone to Ibra Flus and the general
manager and said, listen, we don't want him to be
our coordinator. Like you see DJ Moore's body language, You've
seen Calen Williams body language. I mean, they picked this
amazing receiving prospect in Roma Dunz. They can't find a
way to get him the ball. You know, DeAndre Swift,
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who's been very good for Fantasy in the last couple
of weeks, had those first four weeks where he couldn't
even get a yard a positive gain, and you know,
it's just looked, it's just looks so awful and the
good moments have been completely washed away by the last
couple of weeks where they have looked like a JV
team sometimes on the field. So I don't think. I
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think the arrow has to be able to has to
go up. And I also have a lot of I
don't say confidence, but I'm excited to see what Thomas
Brown brings to the offense, considering he's a sendate from
Sean McVay and he used to be an assistant coach
with him, So I'm sure he's gonna bring some a
lot more motion, a lot more max protection, a lot
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of things that will help the Bears.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
It's so hard to get You can't get a new
playbook in the middle of the year. You can't read it.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You know, it's tough. He's gonna simplify some things. I
think for everybody else it won't be as the explosive
offense they want.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, the only place that can goes up and I
would agree with that in terms of offensively. Just getting
into a larger discussion about Dynasty and values and the
way we play this game. This has been your first
full season in Dynasty, right, and you've adapted quickly. And
it's great to have you obviously on the show and
in many leagues. But what's your Have you been surprised
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at how much Caleb williams perceived value has changed over
the course of not even a full season. I mean,
this guy was a generational super flex talent, and even
in one quarterback league he was still taking ahead of
Jayden Daniels by a significant margin. Are you at a
place where you're kind of shocked by it? Like, what's
your reaction? Like, I didn't. I didn't realize it would
affect it this much? Are you like? People are crazy?
(06:43):
Nothing's changed about it? You should still have hope.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I didn't realize that. How how how much the fluctuation
and values happens from the draft to now in pre
draft process, all that stuff like, I mean Marvin Harrison,
we will draft in him in dynasty leagues and fantasy leagues,
redraft leagues, like yeah, as a top ten wide receiver.
(07:07):
We just we had a conversation just now how a
couple of weeks ago Elieue Neighbors was number two on
Keep Trade Cut.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
As a wide receiver position.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, and then related value.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
No reason, there's no real I sold him. We talked
about its best.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I love the league Neighbors. I would be happy with
him on my roster years to come. It's just you're
expecting so much out of a player so early with
such a small sample size, Like let them be rookies,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, And I think that that goes for Like it's
the same way Caleb Williams is kind of like what
Xavierworthy is going through right now. Like we have high
expectations for Xavier Worthy because he's attached to Patrick Mahomes
and has this offense and Andy Reid, But the way
he's looked right now, people are trying to jump ship.
And I think if you are a contender, you might
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want to just I you might want to either aid
them for somebody who can produce because Caleb Williams and
Xavier Worthy are kind of in the same boat where
I don't think it's going to be the first year
where you're going to see a lot of production. So
I wouldn't necessarily get off the bandwagon. But I do
believe that that is those two players, among a lot
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of other rookies who have been overvalued, only are better
for rebuilding teams.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I think almost everyone on the Bears right now. I
don't want to say everyone in Bears. I'm really only
talking about two players because Roma Dunze is still a
top twenty four wide receivers, and I mean to be honest,
I think I think rightfully, So I think he's an
incredible prospect. Nothing that made him a great prospect has
changed nothing, if anything. Like we said, they got nowhere
to go but up. But I think Caleb Williams, I
don't know how far he's slipped right now, I don't
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have the top of my head, but he's gonna slip,
and he's going to continue to slip in rankings. Is newer,
sexier names become available and there's nothing better about them.
They're just sexier, Like Shrew Sanders couldn't hold Caleb Williams
jockstrap in people's perceived dynasty value, and then I promise
you as soon as draft time comes around, it's gonna
be like, hey, Shadure though he comes from you know, Dion,
he knows how to handle them boxy better. When I've
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actually watched the little bit of the Bears that I have, Dude, Caleb,
just like justin fields, there's these moments like this guy's
unbelievable and in terms of arm talent, he's freakishly good.
He really is freakishly talented. The offense looks inept, it's
a it's a bunch of weird screens. It it like
it annoys me because I'm starting to believe, having having
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done a podcast now going in on two years, I'm
just a little bit more disciplined. I say it's disciplined
of watching football. It's like it's like, come on, you're
enjoying yourself watching football. But I've just absorbed so much
more more more of a critical eye. And I'm starting
to feel like I'm not saying I could be an
offensive coordinator. I know, I like there's a huge like,
but I'm also like, hey, I don't think it's that complicated. Man,
(09:47):
I think you're telegraphing way too much, Like, don't make
me feel like I have confidence where I could do
your job. I want, I want the Wizard of Oz.
Don't look behind the curtain like this is so impossibly complicated.
I couldn't possibly other than pronouncing the playbook, which I'm
sure you give me six months to do. I'm confident
I could call a better game than Chane Waltern. It's
disgusting what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I would, I would get you if I had an offensive,
coordinated position open. I call you before I called Shane
wald I I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And that's that's not that's not hyping me up. That's
just how bad.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
He's exactly and I'm and I'm not even and we
haven't even talked about how atrocious their old line is
and they have left even And poor Caleb Williams, he's
had some really he's thrown some really bad balls. He's
had some bad reasons his progression like it just hasn't
But when you get when you get impressing your face
over and over and over again, he could turn into
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David Carr real quick. If they're not.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Careful, nothing, nothing kills good habits more than futility. Like
if if someone like growing up, it's then not to
make it too dp. Like my mom was so critical
of me vacuuming. You're like, you missed this spouse. She's
trying to instill discipline. But I got to a place
where I'm like, it doesn't matter if I vacuum well
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or not. You're just going to correct something. So I
would literally just like I would just turn the vacuum
on and sit down and even not even vacuum the
first time, let her dump critique everything, and then vacuum again.
And I think, if you're a Caleb Williams, it's like, hey,
I'm not gonna do any of the good things you say.
I'm just gonna go out there and instinctually play ball
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and turn into backyard football. Like I don't fault him.
I'm actually becoming a Caleb Williams fan. You know. It's
it's just how it goes. Like I was anti Caleb Williams.
I didn't think, you know, he was worth what he
was worth. I had concerns, and now that he's struggling,
I just like my quarterbacks with a little bit of suffering.
I like my players to have gone through something, you
know what I mean. It's just a good character, you
know what I mean. Like now, I can see myself
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trading for Caleb Williams towards the end of the season
because I think people are going to be so so
far gone and so far out, and I mean, eber Flus,
I think almost one hundred percent certainty is gonna get fired.
I want to keep this about Fanny. I know we're
talking just a lot about the Bears, but this is
a case study. Like this is remember six months ago
DJ Moore top twenty four wide receiver, He's wide receiver thirty.
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That's it' Dj Moore is a bye right now in
Dinosaur Full I.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Think all of them, I think all of them will
buy them.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Wrong Dj Moore. I'm not saying that they're going to
be incredible top end assets in your cump, But do
I have more faith in Kaleb Williams or Trevor Lawrence
right now? I think like Caleb Williams, dude, like, And
I'm not saying that they weren't even in the same value.
I'm just saying, like, there's still a shot you can take,
but I need I need Yeah Lawrence, Yeah, yeah, but
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but I think it's going to continue to slip in value.
And it's just hard because guys like Jayden and Daniels.
I think Jade Daniels was up to the quarterback too,
or he was the quarterback one in in Keep drid
Cut not a few weeks ago. That's incredible. He does
not deserve to be there. He does not deserve to
be there. Lamar has entered the conversation with Mahomes and
Allen and those guys, but Jayden and Daniels, there's no
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world where Jaden Daniel should be worth what Lamar Jackson's worth.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
No, We've seen and we've seen rookies have great first
look and I'm a big Jane Daniels fan. L s
U all that Go Tigers. I'm a big, big Jane
Daniels fan. I love that man. But we've seen rookies
have great first years and not really give great performances
after that. So to put him at number one, Yeah,
(13:23):
to put him at number one is I just think
it's premature.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, it's it's you know, I think as more and
more people play Dynasty Keep Trade Cut specifically, it is
going to get more volatile. It's getting more whack. You know, like,
it doesn't mean it's wrong. It's a tool you can
still use, but use it to your advantage. Don't don't
don't trust what the calculator says. Have your own opinions.
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Listen to this show. We will tell you when something's
out of balance, and to that effect, we're going to
take a quick break. When we come back, we have
our playoff primer players you can trade for and trade
away at the at you know, trade deadlines are coming
up Dynasty leagues. We do it a little bit later
in our leagues, but some leagues, I know Week twelve
is kind of a big week for trade deadlines or
week eleven, So we're going to have some players to
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trade for for the playoff push right after this. It's
for sticking with us and sticking with the show. Thomas.
You've got two teams in Dynasty that I play, you know,
shared leagues that we play together. Both of them are
contenders for you, and both of them very much a
roster churn type of team. You know what I mean.
You're always looking to make the next deal. I was
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very much the same when I when I first started playing,
and that's not to be condescending or say you're doing
it wrong. I'm simply saying I think a portion of
it is you're addicted to the feeling of getting a
deal done. Okay, at least you can admit it.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
At least it say yeah, it's the first step. It's
the first step. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
But my point is, with all of that, you are
well versed in the art of the deal. I think
you've probably made over one hundred trades in the two
leagues I'm in with you between the two, probably maybe
one hundred a piece. I don't even know, maybe total assets.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
The way sleep attracted previously it was about assets. Switch
so if you did like six like picks and three
players or something like that, that would count as as
a six.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I get that bar.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah. So with that, we're going to jump into now
a kind of like different budgets. Right, If you're looking
to make a playoff push, who are some players that
are undervalued that towards the end of this season, going
into the the end of the regular and into the
start of playoffs that you can hit your wagon too,
for you know, not tearing down your entire roster. I mean,
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everyone would love to trade for Jamar Chase right now
as a Jamar Chase owner in those league that's competing.
They're not all the team in China. It's not all
of it.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
No, Nope. I think if we're talking about competing versus
versus rebuilding, right so, if you're going to compete at
this point, you have to be willing to part with
some hot, some good probably good draft capital at this point,
like you can't hold onto everything. And I've been like
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I personally have been of mind that I have to
move next year's picks or the year afters or whatever,
twenty seven picks, whatever I have to do to get
the players on my roster, that I need to try
to win the championship because I am compete. My first
player is Pooka Nakua. And not to say that Nikua's
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value has dipped significantly or anything like that, but I'm thinking,
if you, if you can contact the Puka manager, I
think that the Pooka most likely because he has Pooka,
he's probably not in playoff contention. I would say that's
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probably a strong chance that they are in rebuild mode
or retool mode if you can get Pooka at any point,
it's right now. I mean he's come off the injury
and he hasn't done Pooka things just yet. The touchdowns
haven't been there. We talked about this earlier. The touchdowns
haven't been there. Yes, he's still had targets, but he
still hasn't crossed like one hundred yards. Matthew Stafford has looked,
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you know, kind of. I don't say he looks washed,
but he's been up and down. I mean they've winning
with defense, winning with defense. Yeah, So if you could
pry Pooka away, I think it's right now because that
guy or Gal is probably out of contention at this point.
And if you have a first and maybe two seconds,
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I think you could get Pooka Nakol right now. For
any team that's trying to rebuild a retool.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I guess my question would simply be, I mean, doesn't
Pooka perfectly fit a rebuilding team. If you're rebuilding, aren't
you going to aren't you going to hang on to Pooka?
So I'm I disagree on this one. And just so
the listeners know, we gave ourselves kind of a budget tier,
like Who's worth at least a first, if not plus
that you can go get to try to win your
Dinaty League, and then who's worth a second plus just
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to give everyone kind of a different level of ranges.
This would be blockbuster And I think that what I
like about it is I think the touchdowns are going
to come for Pooka. I think the Rams offense is
just getting warmed up. Yes, they kind of fell short
this last Monday night against the Dolphins, but Staffords still
an incredible quarterback. His arm talent's still great, and Puka
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is still the target leader. Cooper Cup is the second
fiddle there. Both are very solid, but Puka is the
target leader, and I believe touchdowns will come. I truly
do so. I think Puka could go on a tear
to end the season. I just I challenged the idea
that he's gettable, even if the Puka manager because also
the other thing about Puka managers is they got him
last year most likely for super cheap most likely, so
there's probably a lot of teams that had house money
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on Puka, so he wasn't their wide receiver one alone.
Now people reallgate things, but like you get what I'm saying,
Like someone may have had a Jamar Chase and Garrett
Wilson and then they just picked up Pookah from the waivers,
or they picked up Puka in the third round. And
so I don't have Puka this season, you know what
I mean. So I don't know if he's gettable, but
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you're not gonna be displaced on having him.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I think. I think my point is I'm not saying
that he is gettable. I'm not saying that everybody would
be willing to trade Pooka. I mean, like, if I
had him, would I'd be willing to trade him? Maybe?
Maybe not. But if you're looking down the barrel of
one and nine, oh and ten, whatever you are right
now or something like that, maybe you look in to reallocate,
especially if you are if you.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I wouldn't trade him away for a win.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Well, if Puka white Way said it again.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I wouldn't trade him away. If if I if I
have Puka on my roster and I'm one and nine,
I'd be like, it's gonna take It's gonna take at
least two firsts for me to move Puka. I don't
think there's a bunch of names that are sexier right now.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well, let me, Well, let me ask you this. So
a lot of people I would say, and I've listened,
I listened to a couple of different podcasts and read
a couple of different publications said inferior podcast are saying
to buy C d Lamb right now. So I'm not
saying that cd Lamb would normally not be attainable because
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of the fact that he's ce d Lamb, he's young,
he has he was the target leader last year. All
that's in the yeah by cd lamp because Dak is gone.
My point and this is I'm not and I'm not
saying anybody would sell C. D Lamb right now. But
if you're aiming high and you want to make a
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big splash and a big move, what is the what
is it going to hurt to go to the Pooka
manager who's probably out of it and saying, hey, what
can I give you to get Pooka off your hands?
And maybe because this I'm not gonna say this draft
is like load littered with great wide receivers. But if
they could get more than the value of Pooka at
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this moment, I still think you win it, because I
think Puoka's value is lowered than it should be because
of the fact that he's been hurting playing.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
With that I can agree with. And the other thing
I would agree with is it's not like you're sinking
your assets into more of a rental. This is not
only for this season. You can get Pooka for the
playoff stretch and guess what, that's a fantastic building block
for the rest of you. You know, you've got four
or five more years in a Sean McVay offense. I
don't care who the quarterback is. I know that Stafford
is great and that's who we want there. But even
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if Stafford does retire, Sean McVay made Jared Goff incredibly
relevant his regression against the Texans, the five interceptions of
like what am I watching it right now?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
That was? That was like this is why the Rams
traded you?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
But yeah, right, and they still want to Detroit it
for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
The last thing I will say, and I didn't bring
this up, there's an injury risk with Pooka. He has
a history that the manager who has him not to
say he may not have had him left the year
before when he had fifteen hundred yards and set all
the record. He may have just gotten him this year,
and he may be tired of like looking at somebody
who is having knee injuries practice after practice. There was
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I mean, two weeks ago, he almost he had he
almost set the Dynasty world on fire because of the
knee injury in practice, and everybody was worried about that.
So I'm just saying there's risk involved with and selling him,
with selling him, but there's also also you can profit
from giving Pooka to someone who wants to win now
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and wants to win desperately.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I think also, I don't want to underestimate. There is
an emotion to having hot a season and having your
expectations dashed because someone wasn't available. I remember I remember
my one of my first years, trading away George Kittle
in a rage because it was the second year i'd played.
I had taken him early. He'd been on IR the
first season I ever played Dynasty. The second year happens
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and he plays one game against injured. I'm like, this
guy's injury prone. I'm just done with it. I want
him off my roster. I traded I traded away George
Kittle in a second Dawson Knox was on a tear
at the time for Dawson Knox straight up. Oh bro,
Yeah to Dylan by the way.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yes, but that is that's what I'm saying something the
most right.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, for sure, if you were the PUKA owner to
first at least hear me two firsts at least, if
not hold on to him. Moving moving to kind of
the rental thing that I talked about, first of all,
shout out my boy George Pickens. He's about to go
on a tear this I don't want to keep coming
back to the well. But he fits this segment so well.
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He's already up to a wide receiver fourteen and keep
trade cut pretty high. I think that's about where he belongs.
But he gets to play Baltimore in the past final
Cincinnati Cleveland Baltimore again in the next. Like his his
playoff stretch is one of the most obvious things Fantasy
right now, and the Russell Wilson changeover has been electric.
But I want to focus on true the league winner
of league winners that we've forgotten, and just like you
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kind of talked about Thomas even more so, the Christian
McCaffrey owner probably is not in playoff contention unless they
had already handcuffed him. You know, you know, it's hard
to be the Christian McCaffrey owner and be in playoff contention.
A lot of those teams are out and they're done.
He's an aging running back all that stori he's down
to running back nine on keep trade cut. So I
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went and looked what order some acceptable trades to kind
of get it done mid first to an early first,
if you can convince them you have If you have
an extra first, early verse automatically gets done. If it's
a late first, got to throw a little on top
of it. Totally worth it. Christian McCaffrey comes back and
in his game to kind of get reacclimated with the
San Francisco forty nine ers offense. He has over one
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hundred yards of scrimmage. We know McCaffrey is an end
zone fiend. Rock Purry just had his best game. He
is the He's the key that makes the forty nine
ers really go. And the point is they have to win.
They have to use him. They're on the bubble of
playoff contention and they're a great team. They have a
desire to go back to the Super Bowl and attempt
to finish the job. They need him, and there's no
other player like McCaffrey when he's healthy. I don't need
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to wax, you know, on and on about how incredible
McCaffrey is. We all know it is. I just want
to remind people he just got a contract extension. Yes,
he's an older running back, but there's no other X
factor out there, and the chance to acquire him right
now is I don't want to say it an all
time low, it's at a relevant low, especially like I
would be willing to trade James Cook plus for him.
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I'd be willing to Heck, I'd be willing to part
with ken Walker. You know who's an incredible back, and
he's not Christian McCaffrey. Ken Walker is not Christian mcaffery
on a week to week basis. He's just not. So
if you're on the bubble and you if you're eight
and two, if you're nine to one, if you're seven
and three, go get McCaffrey. If you can do it,
go get the best player in Fantasy handcuff him and
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hope that he can carry you to a championship because
they're really no one else like him. I'm gonna you know, Thomas,
did you have any thoughts on that. I'm pretty sure
you would just agree wholeheartedly, so we can move on pretty.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Quickly, disassuming, Well, exactly, that's my job, dude, I got
I got new notes. Yeah, I mean, there's only one
Christian McCaffrey. There's only one. And look, you you're taking
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on a little bit of a risk because I mean
this is what three years now, we've seen him miss most,
if not all, of a season, maybe even it might
be a four season. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
You can say he's injury prone or snobbish with his body,
whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
But I think that helps you to acquire him at
this point because whoever the manager is, the owner of
McCaffrey is probably like over it. He's probably over it.
I have him in a redraft league. And when they
said he was coming back or he might come back
in week ten, I was like, I need to just
(27:06):
trade him away because I don't know if he's going
to be available the rest of the season or And
there was reports and this might have retroactively you can't
do this obviously, but there were reports that Jordan Mason
was gonna get forty five percent of the STAPs and
it was such a lie, such a lie, and that's
(27:28):
just the forty nine is doing anything. But but my
point is if you don't try to get McCaffrey from
the owner, you're doing yourself a disservice because he can
possibly not only he can win you not only the
league this year, but if he does stay healthy and
it's a risk, but if he does stay healthy, he
has a contract for two years, so he will be
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around and will be hopefully if he stays healthy in
his thirty thirty year old season doing the same thing.
And then you really went out because now you have
Christian McCaffrey for three years, and I mean, I just
don't see a downside with it. You're taking the risk
about injury, but still, I mean, who else would you
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want to take a risk on?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
But the number one thing, especially especially at the acquisition cost. Right,
if I'm having to trade two plus first for McCaffrey,
no shot. But the reality is the market for him
right now, it's gettable, it's gettible, and he's remember.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Rick Henry at this point, and he's.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Because this is what I wanted to say too, Like
I dogged on you when you came into Cartel. You
adopted a norphon teams, this whole thing, and you had
this one trade in particular, where you've got Derrick Henry.
This is before he like, it is before he was
signed to the Ravens. He was like, and you included
a first and I was like, what are you doing?
(28:48):
It's a running back blah blah blah. Dereck Henry number
one running back in fantasy right now, world better older
than McCaffrey. You can't get Derrick Henry for all the
tea in China right now. It doesn't matter the price,
simply because it's that the winner. Guess who can do
better on a points bringing basis. It's Christian and so
I remember banners fly forever. This is if you're the
eight and two team, If you're the nine to one team,
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this is for you because who gives who gives a
crap about your pick your first and second pick next year,
And it's a great selling point if the McAffrey and hasn't, Hey,
this is a running back heavy class, or if this
is Aston john Ty, what if this is you know,
Olie Gordon, what if this is Judkins? Like these are
there's lots of great backs and you're like, oh, this
is a fair trade, Like there's lots you can make
happen with it. And we don't get to talk about
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McCaffrey enough Dynasty. I really don't, because it's it's it's
either a guarantee or it's a it's an injury. So
let's move on.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I'm gonna jump. It's just so much, it's so cool.
He's so cool. He caught an adjusted all that he
can do well.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
And that's the thing is to like not to not
to just keep talking about it, but like, okay, if
you if you stifle him on the running game, he's
about to have one of the most incredible passing performances.
Like as as just a pure receiver, it's a play watch.
He's never out of the game, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Like there are so many games when there's like if
I'm as a JSN owner, a Pickens owner, it's like
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they're not throwing the ball there, where's my play? I
want to see them do the thing. McCaffrey's always doing
his thing and it's scoring.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
That would be shut.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Up another player. I want to remind people to go
get and this player you can get for a second,
you can get you know worth a second plus like
a Malachi Corley or maybe maybe a Jamison Williams. Straight up,
I'd be willing to pay either of those prices, a
second Malachi Corley, a second and some random player, you know,
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a Jamison Williams for Mike Evans. Straight up. I don't
think people realize Mike Evans is probably some of the
worst fantasy advice that ever gave. I gave to a
friend of mine he had Mike Evans about two three
years ago, and I was like, hey, man, the cliff
is coming, you know, move on, He's not worth that much.
Like It's okay, And Mike Evans did what he did
last year and was a top twelve wide receiver. Mike
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Evans was on pace to be a top twelve receiver
until he got injured. He coming back, maybe not this week,
but the week after. Baker Mayfield is playing out of
his mind. Baker Mayfield is making Kate Otten and Rashad
and the ghost of Rashad White, who should not be good.
Rashad White is not a good running back. He is
making all of these guys relevant, playing heroically, and Mike
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Evans is a first ballot Hall of Famer. He should
not be priced where he is Mike Evans owner, I mean, bro.
First of all, Chris Godwin's out for the season, so
he's gonna get even more of a target share. Mike
Evans is a no nonsense Listen. He could retire after
the season. It doesn't matter. If you're getting fifteen to
almost twenty points a game from him for the playoff stretch.
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It's worth its weight in gold. It's a no brainer.
A lot of these are age related, and that's just
how we view the game, especially in Dynasty. But now's
the time because here's the other thing I want to say.
This isn't There's two things that have happened throughout the
course of the season. One, your playoff picture in your
league has become more clear. It is totally different going
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and trading for Mike Evans to give yourself a shot
when you have at least six wins already, when you
have six, seven, eight, nine wins, because you're like, hey,
there's a very good chance his playoff stretch is going
to be useful to me. Before the season starts. You
could get injured. Oh I have Mike Evans going on
a playoff tear. But I had Dak Prescott and Derek
carr Is my quarterbacks. You know what I mean, Like
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you're sol but if you know you're making playoffs, there's
very few players at the price. I don't think there's
any player who I like more at that price of
a second or like a Jamison Williams or something.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Dude, No, I I hate agreeing with you completely.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
We need to argue more. We need to bring Dylan
back with just some bad takes like Anthony Richards, so.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I figure out how to argue with you before this
show is over. But man, dude, I had him. You
know I was close to mentioning him on my list,
right dude, you ready, you're ready to schedule, You're ready
to fight. Schedule talk to me. Week twelve at the
New York Giants, Week thirteen at the Carolina Panthers. Fourteen,
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the Raiders at home, fifteen at the Chargers. That's you know,
decent defense. Sixteen at Dallas, seventeen Carolina at home. That you,
Mike Evans can tear apart. This stretch.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Order the champagne.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Just order it, you know, just order it. That's a
stretch I will want any any great receiver to have.
But one that is a Hall of Famer will eat
and the way Baker Mayfield is playing, he is playing
so well and he's keeping them in games. You could
watch it. If there was any other quarterback, they would
be out of the game like that stiff on on
Nick Bosa and able to throw the ball to Rasha
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White on the sideline was at That was one.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Of the coolest because it was such a weird like
Lamar Jackson breaking people's ankles. At this point, I'm kind
of like numb to it. I'm like, this guy's just
faster and more. I thought it can everyone else. With Baker,
it's like there's this kind of every man like Baker,
you know, he's a great athlete. For Schurekey, there's this
there's this level like you are just so freaking ballsy
that that guy could kill you. It looks like a
(34:07):
superhero and you're this like five eleven every man who's
just ripping, you know, chewing to bat like zin and like.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Just like I've screw you.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
It's just like, yeah, Baker, Yes.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
America against is what that is? Yes, Uh, it's great, amazing. Yeah,
And I mean, look, I can't argue because like, man,
look Evans is going to eat because there's no guy
when these other receivers are honestly like they really don't
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have anybody. And I'm I'm a I was a big
Jail and McMillan fan. But even if he comes back
fully healthy, I'm not sure he's ready just yet. So
I think you're gonna see a lot of Kate Otten,
but you're gonna see so much Mike Evans that it's
gonna be a feast for him down the stretch. If
he's no that's a great trade to me.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I'm glad you brought up that schedule too, because that's
that's what you look for to go win it all
and and and the reality is receivers as a position
of boom and bust. I mean, look at Jamar Chase.
He went nuclear this last week fifty points a week
before is the worst week of the year. Didn't have
fifty yards receiving. So it's like, even if you have
some volativity when he plays the Chargers, if he gives
you one or two games, he can finishes the wide
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receiver one on any given week, And that's what you
need in playoffs. You need that volatility of like, hey,
this guy can go score three touchdowns and we wouldn't
be that surprised. So I love it.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I think Tom he's going to be a high end
wide receiver to any any of those weeks.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Agreed, Yeah, who is your who is your mid range purchase?
Who's your mid range acquisition to go help bring a
title to people before the trade deadline.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
This is so this guy will be super easy to
get because he plays on a terrible team, one of
the worst teams in the league, with bad quarterback play.
But for some reason, man, I tell you, man, he
gets it done over and over again. Jacoby Myers. Jacoby
Myers is maybe the most unsung fantasy asset in the
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whole NFL. I just think we just dismiss him every
single year. But now that he is and then leaving
when DeVonta Adams left or had a hamstring injury, you
don't look at Jacoby as a number one where I receiver.
But I'm gonna give you his target share for the
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last five weeks on a team that is so bad
at running the ball they only can throw because they're
either not running the ball well or they're down by
twenty points and have to throw. His target share is
the last five weeks nine ten, nine, seven eleven, that's
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pretty damn good. The last four weeks, the three weeks
of the Fantasy playoffs, and week fourteen. He plays Tampa Bay,
who's thirty first in past defense. He plays Atlanta who's
twenty fourth in past defense. He plays Jacksonville, who's thirtieth
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in past defense, and he plays the New Orleans Saints,
my New Orleans Saints, who are twenty ninth in past defense.
Jacoby Myers is going to be especially in PPR leagues,
but if you're in a half PPR league, he can
be just as useful. He is going to be so consistent.
He won't have Mike Evans blow up weeks, but he
will get you fifteen to twenty points every single week,
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market down guaranteed, because it's just him.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Is that like a Is that like a full PPR league?
Because there's no way he's averaging fifteen.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Ok No, I'm not he's averaging. I'm saying he will
get you that Honestly.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
He will get you. If he gets you, if he
gets hen, you're happy. There's no way, no.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Way, Okay, if he average you want his last five
weeks from told his last five weeks to target shares seventeen.
This is half PPR seventeen seventy seven. I'm sorry, Okay,
let me go back. Seventeen points yep seven and a
half points, ten points, fourteen points, sixteen and a half points.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
That's he's that is I thought that was five games.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Right, that's the last five games. That's when no Davante Adams.
That's when Davante Adams left.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
That's thirteen points a game. That's incredible. That's that's a
that's a high end wide receiver too. And that's good defensive.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
That's good defense. That's Kansas City, That's that's Denver. That's
good defensive.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Okay, I might be convinced because I was like, there's
no way he's scoring at an elite level. Jakobe Myers
or Cede Lamb rest of the season. That's where we're at.
And this is what I saying, like, obviously you're not
gonna make the clame, dude. This is what's great about dynasty.
If you're a redraft and you have ceed Lamb, you're screwed.
Like you're just screwed. Let me just be clear with you.
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You are toast. Your sash is done.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Almost at Jacoby. I literally was this close to san Koby.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I'll be honest with you, I would I would rather
have so many people other than cul because we do this.
We do this every season where name brand like, Oh,
maybe it'll work out, Maybe it will work out. The
Raiders are what they are on offense. If they have
a quarterback problem, they just put in Aidan O'Connell. Oh,
if they have an aid o'connall problem, they put in
minsheuw it. You're at where you're at, and you're on
they've been playing catch up all season. We know what
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they are. Like you were talking about, I thought I
was gonna disagree harder, but the reality is I love
it as a floor play. I don't think the touchdowns
will be there. But the worst game, I think you said,
we're seven and a half points. That's what you need
in your flex, you know what I'm saying. Like and
Jacoby Malis has always been a very savvy receiver. He
used to play QB. I think that is a huge
part of it. He knows how to just find those
passing lanes that are open, especially in zone. I like it.
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I like it a lot. I want to disagree more
it's not a long term solution, but that's cheap points.
It's an un sexy name. I'm gonna go trade for
him right now.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
He's worth a mid second round pick one. I think
it's twenty eight hundred points.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
He's yeah, you could get him less than give it away.
You could get him for less than that. You could
take a player that Yeah, hey QJ, look at the upside,
the touchdown upside. Go get Jacobe Myers. You're gonna get
guaranteed floor play. That's big for playoffs. Man, I love
that Rock Bowers. I do think is the one there,
but there's plenty of targets to go around. I like
it and move on to my cheap option. Man, Dude
(40:38):
doing the show like like taking the time to research.
He thinks it makes you a better player, Like it
really does. Like I almost traded away Jalen Hurts a
couple of weeks ago. I go on to do the show,
I do my research. Are like, no shot, I'm talking
about this. I'm making trades as I reached. I just
traded for Nause in a league because my cheap option
is Nauji Harris Bonus DeAndre Hopkins. If you can still
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get d hop Please do I just think another floor receiver.
It's like, hey, he's he's a super safe eight points
a week with upside if Kansas City and if Isaiah
Pacheco comes back and opens up the game for him.
But Naji Harris for Tank Bigsby straight up gets it
done right now, Naji Harris for any second gets it
done less than a second. You can package things together.
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Naji Harris is in a contract year playing on the
best Steelers offense he's played on ever. Now he doesn't
He's not getting the targets like he did when Big
Ben was there. But Naji Harris looks different this season.
He's running angrier, he's playing with a chip on his shoulder,
and I think he could go on to have an
incredible finish to the season. With Russell Wilson under center.
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You know, the rushing touchdowns weren't there because Fields was
obviously taking them. You know, during the early part of
the season when the offense was finding its legs, Nag
has found his. He's playing at an unbelievable level. This
is such a safe RB two to finish out the year.
They have an incredible schedule. I already outlined with the Pickens.
You know Baltimore's night. Now balt some more is good
against the run, very good against the run. But I
think there will be scoring opportunities because the passing game
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is gonna get him down there. The point is this
is a brand new Steelers offense. It's scored more than
twenty points multiple times, and years past it was like, dude,
how they were nine and eight with Kenny Pickett under quarterback.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
I'm just like, now we know you want to.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Talk about you want to talk about presidential candidates. Mike Tomlin,
Secretary of defense every more all around the world just stops.
People start developing. It's just gonna be great.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, they need to study that man. They need to
study that man and how you coach. He's the coach
k of of football.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Like he's better than that, bro, He's he's gonna go down.
First of all, I think what's crazy is that usually
when you have this is a complete Mike tamp Tomlin tangent.
And I don't mean to go on it because screwing
is the Steelers all that? Okay? Every all right, Bill Belichick,
Nick Sabin, I'm trying to think of they're super famous,
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like head coaches, like some of the most successful coaches
in NFL or football history, right, like Bill Parcells. I'm
trying to who else has got many Tory tom Andrew
was different. He was kind of a class act through
and through. But all of those guys I just mentioned,
what are they? They're disciplinarians, They're authoritative figures that had
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this kind of like the players are going to do
what I say the way I say it. Mike Tomlin
is the most beloved and respect he is the player's
coach who is not a player's coach, And I think
it like I like, I'm like, there's an anonymous pole
that gets posted every season the Athletic there's an incredible article.
I encourage you to go read it. Last year they
did it. It was like, who's the coach you'd want
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to go play for the most if you weren't playing
for the team you were and this is anonymous pole.
Ninety one percent of the poll said Mike Tomlin like unequivalently,
like how do you how do you be that liked
and that's successful all the time. I know he's only
won one Super Bowl, but it's like it's hard to
win Super Bowl, you know what? I mean, ask Kyle Shanahan,
and he's an incredible coach, Like I just for ins
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that and be that beloved. It's like he's having his
cake and eating it too, and nag, now she's gonna
get a piece of that, you know what I mean.
So it's it's a good year for the Steelers. I'm
jealous from a distance.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Oh my god. No, I would love to be a
Steelers fan right now. But well, the time has come, Josh,
I finally disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (44:26):
I do, sir, I do, sir, And I will explain.
I do believe that if I had Najie Harris, I'd
be trying to trade him right now. Okay, So let
me go down on the list of what. Let me
go down the list of why. Number one, he has
had some really really good matchups in the first half
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of the season for run defense. He played Atlanta, UH,
he played Indianapolis. He's played Dallas, who's a run funnel.
He's played Vegas, He's played the Giants in Washington, who
are better to pass that they are against the run.
He's been very good in all of those games. Jalen
Warren also was hurt for a lot of those games,
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and Najee his snap percentage was I would say, oh,
so Jalen Warren got hurt. I think week two, so,
Week three, fifty nine, Week four sixty nine, Week five
seventy four. The last week against Washington that he just
played with Jalen Warren healthy, he played forty seven percent
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of the snaps. I'm nervous. I'm nervous that Jalen Warren
will come in and take some of this, some of
these carries away. And he looked really good last week,
almost scored a touchdown. If he didn't, I don't yeah, no,
almost a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Remember he fumbled, fumbled.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
He fumbled, but yah, it's Jake. I mean, he doesn't
fumble very often. I'm gonna give him a pass. The
schedule is brutal bro you ready, Baltimore, Cleveland since he
that could get by with that Cleveland again, Philly, Baltimore
hans this city in the championship game. Yeah, that is
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a murderer's real schedule. I don't want to put my
eggs in the basket of a touchdown dependent running back,
and I think that Naji, in this particular case with
Jalen Warren back will be more touchdown dependent, especially if
they are close games and they are playing or they're
playing from behind, which they could against Baltimore, Cincinnati, Philly,
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Baltimore again and Kansas City. All those could be games
where they playing catch up. So I'm worried about Najie Harris.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
My counter. I understand that you said you don't want
touchdown dependent, but most running back David Montgomery is touchdown dependent,
and Devintgomery's RB one in the season's incredible pads. In
three games Russell Wilson has played, Nause has scored in
two of them. I think multiple touchdown games are coming.
I really do believe that the offense as a whole
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is better and the scoring opportunities are better. He's only
got three rushing touchdowns on the entire season. I think
Naji can finish with eight or nine. I believe all
of them come in the back half of the season.
The other thing is, I don't think the Steelers. I
don't think the Steelers are going to be playing catch
up in all those games. That Steelers defense is elite,
and so I believe not. Listen, I'm not saying Nase
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is gonna come up here and be an RB one.
What I'm saying is he's looked different. He's looked incredible,
and someone for you to be able to trade multiple thirds,
for you to be able to trade just a second,
you know, a late second for Naji straight up, you know,
a Khalil Shakir for Naj straight up to get you know,
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even fifty five plus. If an offense is scoring twenty
five plus a week, I'll take those odds because I
think the Steelers are about to open it up like
people wouldn't believe. I don't think it's all gonna be russ.
I think they're gonna have Goalin carries and score rushing touchdowns.
So it's all based on price. If I was paying
more than the second, i'd have an issue. But it's
because it's cheap and it's steady.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
And I and I think that's where I'm coming from.
He's right now. I mean, everybody's been waiting on the
nausea breakout. He scored three out of the last four weeks.
Like you said, he has had one hundred yards three
out of the last four weeks. His value is at
its peak that I can remember from for Naji Harris
(48:27):
in the last since his rookie season, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
So I agree, it's going back up.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Yeah. So my problem is I just don't want to
pay that premium for Naji Harris right now now. I
would be willing to pay him on a discount, especially if,
like next week against Baltimore he doesn't have a good game,
I will go get him. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Well, let me ask you this. If you're not willing
to pay for Nase, who is cheap that you are
willing to pay for? Because give me a better name
than the nause with in terms of the workload and
the touchdown upside, because I feel like it's a great bargain.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
I don't have a good name at all. This is
a very this is this is not sexy at all.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Bro. And you know who well, you know Jacoby Myers
was super sexy.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
So oh yeah that was that was.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Actually you con miss me on Jacoby Myers. Like it's
like he took the glasses off and let the hair
down like in the you know what I mean, it
was like man Hathaway and no, what was it? What
was it the Princess Star Sorry yeah yeah yeah yeah,
where it's like she literally just gets her hair straight
and takes off the glasses. It's like it's a complete
makeup for it.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Oh yeah for me.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
With Jacoby Myers, she was so beautiful. Yeah, thirteen points
a game. Wow.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah, well Jacoby Meyers looks like Holly Berry next to
this guy. Uh. And I'm talking about Gus Edwards, the
gust plus.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
This is the fourth rounder. This is free, This is
a Waivers This isn't the Waivers show, Thomas. This is terrible.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
No, I know, but look, but look listen me. We
all left him for dead, everybody. And if somebody said
that they were on the Gus bus, uh from week
one when he looked like he was washed, they're lying. Uh,
Gus looks so washed those first two weeks. I personally, though,
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believe that because they came into the season believing he
was going to be the running back one he just
wasn't fully healthy yet and him having the time.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Off the Chargers just just to clarify I think.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
The fantasy community. Oh no, I'm sorry, Chargers, Yeah no,
I thought that. I think the Chargers came in thinking
he would be the number to lead back and because
he did not look the way he probably looked in
training camp or whatever, was ailing him at that moment
before this injury, before the ankle injury, I think that
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he wasn't fully healthy and they could see it, so
they stopped giving him the ball. And then obviously he
went on ir my point in saying that is we
all left him for dead and said, oh, this guy's
watched he's twenty nine. You know he's had acl tears,
he's had all this blah blah blah blah. One thing
about Gus Edwards, though he was brought in to be
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the goal line back, he scored thirteen touchdowns last year. Yes,
Lamar Jackson was his quarterback, but he still can score
near the goal line. He is efficient as a runner.
He averages four point eight yards to carry for his career.
I'm not saying that Gus is gonna change the course
of your dynasty or fantasy season. What I'm saying is
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he is so cheap right now. He just came off
the ten carries for fifty five yards and he looked good.
So if he gets more work, which I think will
happen as he ramps up in JK. Dobbins, who's been
getting twenty five plus carries a game, is probably gonna
slow down Gus Edwards will be a good flat to
(52:00):
plug in and you might get sixty yards in a
touchdown any given week with as much as the Chargers
run the ball. He is Probably he could be on waivers.
I just picked him up in the sixteen team league
last week. On waivers.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
He could be us Forth that sleeper.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
That's what I'm saying. I'm just saying, that's cheap. This
is we've scraped in the bottom of the barrel.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Hey, that's a bargain shopping. I love a good bargain shopping.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
Yeah, But if you can get him for so cheap
right now, and you're contender and you don't let's say
you don't have let's say you don't have a first,
you don't have a second, you spent all of your capital.
You might have fab you might have a third or
a late third or fourth that you could throw at
Gus Edwards, and Gus Edwards can get you a couple
of good weeks down the stretch. I firmly believe.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
That I'll tell you what, man. First of all, I
want to hate the take, but the price is so cheap.
It's like what I agree with you entirely, that he's
a capable back on a very capable offense. What I
would disagree with the most is that I think the
Chargers knew JK. Dobbins was the guy because Greg Roman
was the offensive coordinator and he always had had Dobbins
ahead of Gus Edwards when they were both in Baltimore
(53:08):
together in the depth shot. Now, I know Dobbins had
that achilles injury, but I just to pat myself on
the pack. Do that show I'm on right. I always
believe Dobbins was going to be the lead back there,
and I saw it that way in Best Ball, and
I saw that way in a lot of redraft leagues.
And it's paid out, it's paid dividends. But I don't
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disagree that Edwards has value. He is an efficient runner
and he's a great goal line back, like you said,
and I do think he'll mix in to get a
touchdown here there. And I think most importantly running backs,
we've had an incredible year in terms of running back injuries,
not being as catastrophic really as wide receiver injuries, but
you're still gonna need running back depth going into the playoffs, right,
and also you have bi apocalypses coming, you know, Week fourteen,
(53:52):
Week twelve. Those aren't technically playoff weeks, but if you're
five and five, if you're six and four, they can
be right. And so having someone you know, Let's say
you're the brief owner you have literally no one to
start in week twelve, or you're the James Cook owner,
no one to start week fourteen. Congratulations, Gus Edwards is
going to give you something with the chance of giving
you something great. If you get twelve points at a
Gus Everwards when you started him, you feel like a
(54:14):
genius because you picked them up. Like you said off
of Waivers, Listen, that's all the time we got for
this show. This has been a blast. It's good to
get back in the studio with you, Thomas. Any final
thoughts for owners as they prepare to either completely rebuild
and be depressed going into the offseason or as the
playoff push truly begins for him.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Pick you lane, don't wait, don't wait any longer like
if this week, if it does? You know? Are you
know what you are? Bill's Parcel said, you recossize what
you are whatever you know who you are. Sell while
you can sell, or buy while you can buy, because
everybody else is in the arms race, So don't be
left in.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
A cole if you have. If you're a four win
team and you're riddled with injury, don't try to take
a bunch of waiver wire guys into the playoffs. Dynasty
is great because you can look forward to the offseason.
There's actually so much satisfaction in trading away players that
aren't gonna serve you next year that are super vibe.
Go trade away to Mike Evans. Charge a little more
(55:14):
than a second, right, I'm gonna pay it. If I'm
a contendant. That's a win win deal. Don't don't. Don't
hold onto things because of pride, you know, delayed gratification.
April will be all about you. We'll be talking about
rookies in no time, speing time all the time we got.
Thanks so much for listening to another episodes that day, Exchange.
We will see you next week.
Speaker 3 (55:33):
Hopefully your rosters are a little bit healthier, and so
are arms.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
Okay,
I see.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
My friend's name, my fellow Americans. Much has taken place
since the last episode of the Dynasty Exchange, and I
felt it was only necessary to address why the long delay.
So much has happened, massive NFL trades, our country has
gone through an election, Jerry Jones has continued to be well,
(00:31):
just further spiraling into dementia. So I think you guys
are owed an explanation as to the delay. The reason
is speaking of elections, I actually was meeting with both parties.
I am looking to be appointed secretary Liaison to the NFL.
I had three main running points. We're waiting to hear
back from the side that won. But my first point
(00:52):
was I would like to turn injuries off for the NFL.
I think that the script writers are way too highly paid.
Number Two, I'd like to change the direction of the
chiefs and the media contracts we have with Taylor Swift.
I think that that's been overplayed. I'd like to change,
you know a little bit more, you know who's gonna
win this year, because what happened with the Broncos this
(01:13):
last week is just further evidence that someone needs to
be in charge of script writing. And Third, I would
like to send Jerry Jones to a retirement home and
move the Dallas Cowboys into a trust run by Texan
native Texans to Dallas true home field Cowboys fans. I
feel it's a very strong position, and I feel that
if you vote for me in twenty twenty six as
(01:36):
a write in candidate, they cannot ignore me any longer,
and I'll be in charge of the NFL and save
fantasy for all of our listeners. Thomas, what do you
think about that? That platform pretty solid?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I'm listen. I will be your running mate. Yeah, you
need number two. I got you. I got you. I'll
just you know, I'll just say yes to everything you
tell me to do, and I'll just I'll continue the
work on this. I'll get the ghost of William Holden
and we'll work on the script that's good and try
(02:06):
to take care of all these injuries and in Kansas
City miraculously win in every game that Taylor Swift attends.
I don't know how that happens, but o and over again, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Just you know, it is, it's it's they They they
probably had budget cuts in the scriptwriter's room and went
to chat GPT and they forgot to turn. It was
just like, hey, it's an oldie buddy goodie. Here's my script.
Tom Brady becomes majority share home holder of the Raiders.
Somehow GMS leads them to a super Bowl to face
(02:37):
who else but Bill Belichick leading some sort of NFC team,
and so it's Belichick versus Brady one more time, and
it's contentious, and it gets even worse. Tom slides into
the DMS of Belichick's current girlfriend, which is still an
age gap, but it's only it's it's a better one.
(03:03):
It would be owner versus coach, player versus. It would
the storylines. We'd call it daddy issues. It'd be the
Daddy Issues super Bowl. It'd be fantastic.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
There's a deflated balls joke somewhere in there, but I
you know, yeah, that would.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Be if you and I get into office, we could
tease this out. Yeah, we have so many like it'd
be so good.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I'm all about it. Yeah, that would be amazing, amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Listen, it's fun to joke because fantasy sometimes no pun intended,
is better than reality. And at times like this, Thomas,
I know you're kind of a closet Bears fan. It's
it's nice to get lost in fantasy land because reality
is things in the real world are dark things. I mean,
it's how do you react just jumping into the news here?
(03:50):
Shane Waldron? Who you know? And if you've listened to
the show for any amount of time, you Dylan and
I both hate Shane Waldron for Caleb Williams. Not that
I'm a big Kayleb Williams fan, but I just knew that,
even as good of a prospect as he was, Shane
Waldron was not a good hire him being fired. Is
this a sign of just dysfunction within the organization because
it seems that way, or are you just excited because
maybe the offensive coordinator really is the problem.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I'm excited. I think that's a little bit of dysfunction,
but I also believe that it. Man, it's hard to
put pinpoint one person as the culprit for a whole
team looking like the way the Bears have looked, at
least offensively. But I mean, it's well documented that the
(04:33):
whole team has gone to Ibra Flus and the general
manager and said, listen, we don't want him to be
our coordinator. Like you see DJ Moore's body language, You've
seen Calen Williams body language. I mean, they picked this
amazing receiving prospect in Roma Dunz. They can't find a
way to get him the ball. You know, DeAndre Swift,
(04:56):
who's been very good for Fantasy in the last couple
of weeks, had those first four weeks where he couldn't
even get a yard a positive gain, and you know,
it's just looked, it's just looks so awful and the
good moments have been completely washed away by the last
couple of weeks where they have looked like a JV
team sometimes on the field. So I don't think. I
(05:18):
think the arrow has to be able to has to
go up. And I also have a lot of I
don't say confidence, but I'm excited to see what Thomas
Brown brings to the offense, considering he's a sendate from
Sean McVay and he used to be an assistant coach
with him, So I'm sure he's gonna bring some a
lot more motion, a lot more max protection, a lot
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of things that will help the Bears.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
It's so hard to get You can't get a new
playbook in the middle of the year. You can't read it.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You know, it's tough. He's gonna simplify some things. I
think for everybody else it won't be as the explosive
offense they want.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, the only place that can goes up and I
would agree with that in terms of offensively. Just getting
into a larger discussion about Dynasty and values and the
way we play this game. This has been your first
full season in Dynasty, right, and you've adapted quickly. And
it's great to have you obviously on the show and
in many leagues. But what's your Have you been surprised
(06:21):
at how much Caleb williams perceived value has changed over
the course of not even a full season. I mean,
this guy was a generational super flex talent, and even
in one quarterback league he was still taking ahead of
Jayden Daniels by a significant margin. Are you at a
place where you're kind of shocked by it? Like, what's
your reaction? Like, I didn't. I didn't realize it would
affect it this much? Are you like? People are crazy?
(06:43):
Nothing's changed about it? You should still have hope.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I didn't realize that. How how how much the fluctuation
and values happens from the draft to now in pre
draft process, all that stuff like, I mean Marvin Harrison,
we will draft in him in dynasty leagues and fantasy leagues,
redraft leagues, like yeah, as a top ten wide receiver.
(07:07):
We just we had a conversation just now how a
couple of weeks ago Elieue Neighbors was number two on
Keep Trade Cut.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
As a wide receiver position.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, and then related value.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
No reason, there's no real I sold him. We talked
about its best.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I love the league Neighbors. I would be happy with
him on my roster years to come. It's just you're
expecting so much out of a player so early with
such a small sample size, Like let them be rookies,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, And I think that that goes for Like it's
the same way Caleb Williams is kind of like what
Xavierworthy is going through right now. Like we have high
expectations for Xavier Worthy because he's attached to Patrick Mahomes
and has this offense and Andy Reid, But the way
he's looked right now, people are trying to jump ship.
And I think if you are a contender, you might
(07:55):
want to just I you might want to either aid
them for somebody who can produce because Caleb Williams and
Xavier Worthy are kind of in the same boat where
I don't think it's going to be the first year
where you're going to see a lot of production. So
I wouldn't necessarily get off the bandwagon. But I do
believe that that is those two players, among a lot
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of other rookies who have been overvalued, only are better
for rebuilding teams.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I think almost everyone on the Bears right now. I
don't want to say everyone in Bears. I'm really only
talking about two players because Roma Dunze is still a
top twenty four wide receivers, and I mean to be honest,
I think I think rightfully, So I think he's an
incredible prospect. Nothing that made him a great prospect has
changed nothing, if anything. Like we said, they got nowhere
to go but up. But I think Caleb Williams, I
don't know how far he's slipped right now, I don't
(08:43):
have the top of my head, but he's gonna slip,
and he's going to continue to slip in rankings. Is newer,
sexier names become available and there's nothing better about them.
They're just sexier, Like Shrew Sanders couldn't hold Caleb Williams
jockstrap in people's perceived dynasty value, and then I promise
you as soon as draft time comes around, it's gonna
be like, hey, Shadure though he comes from you know, Dion,
he knows how to handle them boxy better. When I've
(09:05):
actually watched the little bit of the Bears that I have, Dude, Caleb,
just like justin fields, there's these moments like this guy's
unbelievable and in terms of arm talent, he's freakishly good.
He really is freakishly talented. The offense looks inept, it's
a it's a bunch of weird screens. It it like
it annoys me because I'm starting to believe, having having
(09:26):
done a podcast now going in on two years, I'm
just a little bit more disciplined. I say it's disciplined
of watching football. It's like it's like, come on, you're
enjoying yourself watching football. But I've just absorbed so much
more more more of a critical eye. And I'm starting
to feel like I'm not saying I could be an
offensive coordinator. I know, I like there's a huge like,
but I'm also like, hey, I don't think it's that complicated. Man,
(09:47):
I think you're telegraphing way too much, Like, don't make
me feel like I have confidence where I could do
your job. I want, I want the Wizard of Oz.
Don't look behind the curtain like this is so impossibly complicated.
I couldn't possibly other than pronouncing the playbook, which I'm
sure you give me six months to do. I'm confident
I could call a better game than Chane Waltern. It's
disgusting what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I would, I would get you if I had an offensive,
coordinated position open. I call you before I called Shane
wald I I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And that's that's not that's not hyping me up. That's
just how bad.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
He's exactly and I'm and I'm not even and we
haven't even talked about how atrocious their old line is
and they have left even And poor Caleb Williams, he's
had some really he's thrown some really bad balls. He's
had some bad reasons his progression like it just hasn't
But when you get when you get impressing your face
over and over and over again, he could turn into
(10:41):
David Carr real quick. If they're not.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Careful, nothing, nothing kills good habits more than futility. Like
if if someone like growing up, it's then not to
make it too dp. Like my mom was so critical
of me vacuuming. You're like, you missed this spouse. She's
trying to instill discipline. But I got to a place
where I'm like, it doesn't matter if I vacuum well
(11:06):
or not. You're just going to correct something. So I
would literally just like I would just turn the vacuum
on and sit down and even not even vacuum the
first time, let her dump critique everything, and then vacuum again.
And I think, if you're a Caleb Williams, it's like, hey,
I'm not gonna do any of the good things you say.
I'm just gonna go out there and instinctually play ball
(11:26):
and turn into backyard football. Like I don't fault him.
I'm actually becoming a Caleb Williams fan. You know. It's
it's just how it goes. Like I was anti Caleb Williams.
I didn't think, you know, he was worth what he
was worth. I had concerns, and now that he's struggling,
I just like my quarterbacks with a little bit of suffering.
I like my players to have gone through something, you
know what I mean. It's just a good character, you
know what I mean. Like now, I can see myself
(11:47):
trading for Caleb Williams towards the end of the season
because I think people are going to be so so
far gone and so far out, and I mean, eber Flus,
I think almost one hundred percent certainty is gonna get fired.
I want to keep this about Fanny. I know we're
talking just a lot about the Bears, but this is
a case study. Like this is remember six months ago
DJ Moore top twenty four wide receiver, He's wide receiver thirty.
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That's it' Dj Moore is a bye right now in
Dinosaur Full I.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Think all of them, I think all of them will
buy them.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Wrong Dj Moore. I'm not saying that they're going to
be incredible top end assets in your cump, But do
I have more faith in Kaleb Williams or Trevor Lawrence
right now? I think like Caleb Williams, dude, like, And
I'm not saying that they weren't even in the same value.
I'm just saying, like, there's still a shot you can take,
but I need I need Yeah Lawrence, Yeah, yeah, but
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but I think it's going to continue to slip in value.
And it's just hard because guys like Jayden and Daniels.
I think Jade Daniels was up to the quarterback too,
or he was the quarterback one in in Keep drid
Cut not a few weeks ago. That's incredible. He does
not deserve to be there. He does not deserve to
be there. Lamar has entered the conversation with Mahomes and
Allen and those guys, but Jayden and Daniels, there's no
(12:59):
world where Jaden Daniel should be worth what Lamar Jackson's worth.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
No, We've seen and we've seen rookies have great first
look and I'm a big Jane Daniels fan. L s
U all that Go Tigers. I'm a big, big Jane
Daniels fan. I love that man. But we've seen rookies
have great first years and not really give great performances
after that. So to put him at number one, Yeah,
(13:23):
to put him at number one is I just think
it's premature.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, it's it's you know, I think as more and
more people play Dynasty Keep Trade Cut specifically, it is
going to get more volatile. It's getting more whack. You know, like,
it doesn't mean it's wrong. It's a tool you can
still use, but use it to your advantage. Don't don't
don't trust what the calculator says. Have your own opinions.
(13:48):
Listen to this show. We will tell you when something's
out of balance, and to that effect, we're going to
take a quick break. When we come back, we have
our playoff primer players you can trade for and trade
away at the at you know, trade deadlines are coming
up Dynasty leagues. We do it a little bit later
in our leagues, but some leagues, I know Week twelve
is kind of a big week for trade deadlines or
week eleven, So we're going to have some players to
(14:10):
trade for for the playoff push right after this. It's
for sticking with us and sticking with the show. Thomas.
You've got two teams in Dynasty that I play, you know,
shared leagues that we play together. Both of them are
contenders for you, and both of them very much a
roster churn type of team. You know what I mean.
You're always looking to make the next deal. I was
(14:32):
very much the same when I when I first started playing,
and that's not to be condescending or say you're doing
it wrong. I'm simply saying I think a portion of
it is you're addicted to the feeling of getting a
deal done. Okay, at least you can admit it.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
At least it say yeah, it's the first step. It's
the first step. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
But my point is, with all of that, you are
well versed in the art of the deal. I think
you've probably made over one hundred trades in the two
leagues I'm in with you between the two, probably maybe
one hundred a piece. I don't even know, maybe total assets.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
The way sleep attracted previously it was about assets. Switch
so if you did like six like picks and three
players or something like that, that would count as as
a six.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I get that bar.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah. So with that, we're going to jump into now
a kind of like different budgets. Right, If you're looking
to make a playoff push, who are some players that
are undervalued that towards the end of this season, going
into the the end of the regular and into the
start of playoffs that you can hit your wagon too,
for you know, not tearing down your entire roster. I mean,
(15:43):
everyone would love to trade for Jamar Chase right now
as a Jamar Chase owner in those league that's competing.
They're not all the team in China. It's not all
of it.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
No, Nope. I think if we're talking about competing versus
versus rebuilding, right so, if you're going to compete at
this point, you have to be willing to part with
some hot, some good probably good draft capital at this point,
like you can't hold onto everything. And I've been like
(16:12):
I personally have been of mind that I have to
move next year's picks or the year afters or whatever,
twenty seven picks, whatever I have to do to get
the players on my roster, that I need to try
to win the championship because I am compete. My first
player is Pooka Nakua. And not to say that Nikua's
(16:36):
value has dipped significantly or anything like that, but I'm thinking,
if you, if you can contact the Puka manager, I
think that the Pooka most likely because he has Pooka,
he's probably not in playoff contention. I would say that's
(16:56):
probably a strong chance that they are in rebuild mode
or retool mode if you can get Pooka at any point,
it's right now. I mean he's come off the injury
and he hasn't done Pooka things just yet. The touchdowns
haven't been there. We talked about this earlier. The touchdowns
haven't been there. Yes, he's still had targets, but he
still hasn't crossed like one hundred yards. Matthew Stafford has looked,
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you know, kind of. I don't say he looks washed,
but he's been up and down. I mean they've winning
with defense, winning with defense. Yeah, So if you could
pry Pooka away, I think it's right now because that
guy or Gal is probably out of contention at this point.
And if you have a first and maybe two seconds,
(17:43):
I think you could get Pooka Nakol right now. For
any team that's trying to rebuild a retool.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I guess my question would simply be, I mean, doesn't
Pooka perfectly fit a rebuilding team. If you're rebuilding, aren't
you going to aren't you going to hang on to Pooka?
So I'm I disagree on this one. And just so
the listeners know, we gave ourselves kind of a budget tier,
like Who's worth at least a first, if not plus
that you can go get to try to win your
Dinaty League, and then who's worth a second plus just
(18:12):
to give everyone kind of a different level of ranges.
This would be blockbuster And I think that what I
like about it is I think the touchdowns are going
to come for Pooka. I think the Rams offense is
just getting warmed up. Yes, they kind of fell short
this last Monday night against the Dolphins, but Staffords still
an incredible quarterback. His arm talent's still great, and Puka
(18:32):
is still the target leader. Cooper Cup is the second
fiddle there. Both are very solid, but Puka is the
target leader, and I believe touchdowns will come. I truly
do so. I think Puka could go on a tear
to end the season. I just I challenged the idea
that he's gettable, even if the Puka manager because also
the other thing about Puka managers is they got him
last year most likely for super cheap most likely, so
there's probably a lot of teams that had house money
(18:54):
on Puka, so he wasn't their wide receiver one alone.
Now people reallgate things, but like you get what I'm saying,
Like someone may have had a Jamar Chase and Garrett
Wilson and then they just picked up Pookah from the waivers,
or they picked up Puka in the third round. And
so I don't have Puka this season, you know what
I mean. So I don't know if he's gettable, but
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you're not gonna be displaced on having him.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I think. I think my point is I'm not saying
that he is gettable. I'm not saying that everybody would
be willing to trade Pooka. I mean, like, if I
had him, would I'd be willing to trade him? Maybe?
Maybe not. But if you're looking down the barrel of
one and nine, oh and ten, whatever you are right
now or something like that, maybe you look in to reallocate,
especially if you are if you.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I wouldn't trade him away for a win.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Well, if Puka white Way said it again.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I wouldn't trade him away. If if I if I
have Puka on my roster and I'm one and nine,
I'd be like, it's gonna take It's gonna take at
least two firsts for me to move Puka. I don't
think there's a bunch of names that are sexier right now.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well, let me, Well, let me ask you this. So
a lot of people I would say, and I've listened,
I listened to a couple of different podcasts and read
a couple of different publications said inferior podcast are saying
to buy C d Lamb right now. So I'm not
saying that cd Lamb would normally not be attainable because
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of the fact that he's ce d Lamb, he's young,
he has he was the target leader last year. All
that's in the yeah by cd lamp because Dak is gone.
My point and this is I'm not and I'm not
saying anybody would sell C. D Lamb right now. But
if you're aiming high and you want to make a
(20:41):
big splash and a big move, what is the what
is it going to hurt to go to the Pooka
manager who's probably out of it and saying, hey, what
can I give you to get Pooka off your hands?
And maybe because this I'm not gonna say this draft
is like load littered with great wide receivers. But if
they could get more than the value of Pooka at
(21:02):
this moment, I still think you win it, because I
think Puoka's value is lowered than it should be because
of the fact that he's been hurting playing.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
With that I can agree with. And the other thing
I would agree with is it's not like you're sinking
your assets into more of a rental. This is not
only for this season. You can get Pooka for the
playoff stretch and guess what, that's a fantastic building block
for the rest of you. You know, you've got four
or five more years in a Sean McVay offense. I
don't care who the quarterback is. I know that Stafford
is great and that's who we want there. But even
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if Stafford does retire, Sean McVay made Jared Goff incredibly
relevant his regression against the Texans, the five interceptions of
like what am I watching it right now?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
That was? That was like this is why the Rams
traded you?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
But yeah, right, and they still want to Detroit it
for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
The last thing I will say, and I didn't bring
this up, there's an injury risk with Pooka. He has
a history that the manager who has him not to
say he may not have had him left the year
before when he had fifteen hundred yards and set all
the record. He may have just gotten him this year,
and he may be tired of like looking at somebody
who is having knee injuries practice after practice. There was
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I mean, two weeks ago, he almost he had he
almost set the Dynasty world on fire because of the
knee injury in practice, and everybody was worried about that.
So I'm just saying there's risk involved with and selling him,
with selling him, but there's also also you can profit
from giving Pooka to someone who wants to win now
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and wants to win desperately.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I think also, I don't want to underestimate. There is
an emotion to having hot a season and having your
expectations dashed because someone wasn't available. I remember I remember
my one of my first years, trading away George Kittle
in a rage because it was the second year i'd played.
I had taken him early. He'd been on IR the
first season I ever played Dynasty. The second year happens
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and he plays one game against injured. I'm like, this
guy's injury prone. I'm just done with it. I want
him off my roster. I traded I traded away George
Kittle in a second Dawson Knox was on a tear
at the time for Dawson Knox straight up. Oh bro,
Yeah to Dylan by the way.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yes, but that is that's what I'm saying something the
most right.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, for sure, if you were the PUKA owner to
first at least hear me two firsts at least, if
not hold on to him. Moving moving to kind of
the rental thing that I talked about, first of all,
shout out my boy George Pickens. He's about to go
on a tear this I don't want to keep coming
back to the well. But he fits this segment so well.
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He's already up to a wide receiver fourteen and keep
trade cut pretty high. I think that's about where he belongs.
But he gets to play Baltimore in the past final
Cincinnati Cleveland Baltimore again in the next. Like his his
playoff stretch is one of the most obvious things Fantasy
right now, and the Russell Wilson changeover has been electric.
But I want to focus on true the league winner
of league winners that we've forgotten, and just like you
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kind of talked about Thomas even more so, the Christian
McCaffrey owner probably is not in playoff contention unless they
had already handcuffed him. You know, you know, it's hard
to be the Christian McCaffrey owner and be in playoff contention.
A lot of those teams are out and they're done.
He's an aging running back all that stori he's down
to running back nine on keep trade cut. So I
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went and looked what order some acceptable trades to kind
of get it done mid first to an early first,
if you can convince them you have If you have
an extra first, early verse automatically gets done. If it's
a late first, got to throw a little on top
of it. Totally worth it. Christian McCaffrey comes back and
in his game to kind of get reacclimated with the
San Francisco forty nine ers offense. He has over one
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hundred yards of scrimmage. We know McCaffrey is an end
zone fiend. Rock Purry just had his best game. He
is the He's the key that makes the forty nine
ers really go. And the point is they have to win.
They have to use him. They're on the bubble of
playoff contention and they're a great team. They have a
desire to go back to the Super Bowl and attempt
to finish the job. They need him, and there's no
other player like McCaffrey when he's healthy. I don't need
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to wax, you know, on and on about how incredible
McCaffrey is. We all know it is. I just want
to remind people he just got a contract extension. Yes,
he's an older running back, but there's no other X
factor out there, and the chance to acquire him right
now is I don't want to say it an all
time low, it's at a relevant low, especially like I
would be willing to trade James Cook plus for him.
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I'd be willing to Heck, I'd be willing to part
with ken Walker. You know who's an incredible back, and
he's not Christian McCaffrey. Ken Walker is not Christian mcaffery
on a week to week basis. He's just not. So
if you're on the bubble and you if you're eight
and two, if you're nine to one, if you're seven
and three, go get McCaffrey. If you can do it,
go get the best player in Fantasy handcuff him and
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hope that he can carry you to a championship because
they're really no one else like him. I'm gonna you know, Thomas,
did you have any thoughts on that. I'm pretty sure
you would just agree wholeheartedly, so we can move on pretty.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Quickly, disassuming, Well, exactly, that's my job, dude, I got
I got new notes. Yeah, I mean, there's only one
Christian McCaffrey. There's only one. And look, you you're taking
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on a little bit of a risk because I mean
this is what three years now, we've seen him miss most,
if not all, of a season, maybe even it might
be a four season. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
You can say he's injury prone or snobbish with his body,
whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
But I think that helps you to acquire him at
this point because whoever the manager is, the owner of
McCaffrey is probably like over it. He's probably over it.
I have him in a redraft league. And when they
said he was coming back or he might come back
in week ten, I was like, I need to just
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trade him away because I don't know if he's going
to be available the rest of the season or And
there was reports and this might have retroactively you can't
do this obviously, but there were reports that Jordan Mason
was gonna get forty five percent of the STAPs and
it was such a lie, such a lie, and that's
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just the forty nine is doing anything. But but my
point is if you don't try to get McCaffrey from
the owner, you're doing yourself a disservice because he can
possibly not only he can win you not only the
league this year, but if he does stay healthy and
it's a risk, but if he does stay healthy, he
has a contract for two years, so he will be
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around and will be hopefully if he stays healthy in
his thirty thirty year old season doing the same thing.
And then you really went out because now you have
Christian McCaffrey for three years, and I mean, I just
don't see a downside with it. You're taking the risk
about injury, but still, I mean, who else would you
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want to take a risk on?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
But the number one thing, especially especially at the acquisition cost. Right,
if I'm having to trade two plus first for McCaffrey,
no shot. But the reality is the market for him
right now, it's gettable, it's gettible, and he's remember.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Rick Henry at this point, and he's.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Because this is what I wanted to say too, Like
I dogged on you when you came into Cartel. You
adopted a norphon teams, this whole thing, and you had
this one trade in particular, where you've got Derrick Henry.
This is before he like, it is before he was
signed to the Ravens. He was like, and you included
a first and I was like, what are you doing?
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It's a running back blah blah blah. Dereck Henry number
one running back in fantasy right now, world better older
than McCaffrey. You can't get Derrick Henry for all the
tea in China right now. It doesn't matter the price,
simply because it's that the winner. Guess who can do
better on a points bringing basis. It's Christian and so
I remember banners fly forever. This is if you're the
eight and two team, If you're the nine to one team,
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this is for you because who gives who gives a
crap about your pick your first and second pick next year,
And it's a great selling point if the McAffrey and hasn't, Hey,
this is a running back heavy class, or if this
is Aston john Ty, what if this is you know,
Olie Gordon, what if this is Judkins? Like these are
there's lots of great backs and you're like, oh, this
is a fair trade, Like there's lots you can make
happen with it. And we don't get to talk about
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McCaffrey enough Dynasty. I really don't, because it's it's it's
either a guarantee or it's a it's an injury. So
let's move on.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I'm gonna jump. It's just so much, it's so cool.
He's so cool. He caught an adjusted all that he
can do well.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
And that's the thing is to like not to not
to just keep talking about it, but like, okay, if
you if you stifle him on the running game, he's
about to have one of the most incredible passing performances.
Like as as just a pure receiver, it's a play watch.
He's never out of the game, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Like there are so many games when there's like if
I'm as a JSN owner, a Pickens owner, it's like
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they're not throwing the ball there, where's my play? I
want to see them do the thing. McCaffrey's always doing
his thing and it's scoring.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
That would be shut.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Up another player. I want to remind people to go
get and this player you can get for a second,
you can get you know worth a second plus like
a Malachi Corley or maybe maybe a Jamison Williams. Straight up,
I'd be willing to pay either of those prices, a
second Malachi Corley, a second and some random player, you know,
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a Jamison Williams for Mike Evans. Straight up. I don't
think people realize Mike Evans is probably some of the
worst fantasy advice that ever gave. I gave to a
friend of mine he had Mike Evans about two three
years ago, and I was like, hey, man, the cliff
is coming, you know, move on, He's not worth that much.
Like It's okay, And Mike Evans did what he did
last year and was a top twelve wide receiver. Mike
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Evans was on pace to be a top twelve receiver
until he got injured. He coming back, maybe not this week,
but the week after. Baker Mayfield is playing out of
his mind. Baker Mayfield is making Kate Otten and Rashad
and the ghost of Rashad White, who should not be good.
Rashad White is not a good running back. He is
making all of these guys relevant, playing heroically, and Mike
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Evans is a first ballot Hall of Famer. He should
not be priced where he is Mike Evans owner, I mean, bro.
First of all, Chris Godwin's out for the season, so
he's gonna get even more of a target share. Mike
Evans is a no nonsense Listen. He could retire after
the season. It doesn't matter. If you're getting fifteen to
almost twenty points a game from him for the playoff stretch.
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It's worth its weight in gold. It's a no brainer.
A lot of these are age related, and that's just
how we view the game, especially in Dynasty. But now's
the time because here's the other thing I want to say.
This isn't There's two things that have happened throughout the
course of the season. One, your playoff picture in your
league has become more clear. It is totally different going
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and trading for Mike Evans to give yourself a shot
when you have at least six wins already, when you
have six, seven, eight, nine wins, because you're like, hey,
there's a very good chance his playoff stretch is going
to be useful to me. Before the season starts. You
could get injured. Oh I have Mike Evans going on
a playoff tear. But I had Dak Prescott and Derek
carr Is my quarterbacks. You know what I mean, Like
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you're sol but if you know you're making playoffs, there's
very few players at the price. I don't think there's
any player who I like more at that price of
a second or like a Jamison Williams or something.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Dude, No, I I hate agreeing with you completely.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
We need to argue more. We need to bring Dylan
back with just some bad takes like Anthony Richards, so.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I figure out how to argue with you before this
show is over. But man, dude, I had him. You
know I was close to mentioning him on my list,
right dude, you ready, you're ready to schedule, You're ready
to fight. Schedule talk to me. Week twelve at the
New York Giants, Week thirteen at the Carolina Panthers. Fourteen,
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the Raiders at home, fifteen at the Chargers. That's you know,
decent defense. Sixteen at Dallas, seventeen Carolina at home. That you,
Mike Evans can tear apart. This stretch.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Order the champagne.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Just order it, you know, just order it. That's a
stretch I will want any any great receiver to have.
But one that is a Hall of Famer will eat
and the way Baker Mayfield is playing, he is playing
so well and he's keeping them in games. You could
watch it. If there was any other quarterback, they would
be out of the game like that stiff on on
Nick Bosa and able to throw the ball to Rasha
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White on the sideline was at That was one.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Of the coolest because it was such a weird like
Lamar Jackson breaking people's ankles. At this point, I'm kind
of like numb to it. I'm like, this guy's just
faster and more. I thought it can everyone else. With Baker,
it's like there's this kind of every man like Baker,
you know, he's a great athlete. For Schurekey, there's this
there's this level like you are just so freaking ballsy
that that guy could kill you. It looks like a
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superhero and you're this like five eleven every man who's
just ripping, you know, chewing to bat like zin and like.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Just like I've screw you.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
It's just like, yeah, Baker, Yes.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
America against is what that is? Yes, Uh, it's great, amazing. Yeah,
And I mean, look, I can't argue because like, man,
look Evans is going to eat because there's no guy
when these other receivers are honestly like they really don't
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have anybody. And I'm I'm a I was a big
Jail and McMillan fan. But even if he comes back
fully healthy, I'm not sure he's ready just yet. So
I think you're gonna see a lot of Kate Otten,
but you're gonna see so much Mike Evans that it's
gonna be a feast for him down the stretch. If
he's no that's a great trade to me.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I'm glad you brought up that schedule too, because that's
that's what you look for to go win it all
and and and the reality is receivers as a position
of boom and bust. I mean, look at Jamar Chase.
He went nuclear this last week fifty points a week
before is the worst week of the year. Didn't have
fifty yards receiving. So it's like, even if you have
some volativity when he plays the Chargers, if he gives
you one or two games, he can finishes the wide
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receiver one on any given week, And that's what you
need in playoffs. You need that volatility of like, hey,
this guy can go score three touchdowns and we wouldn't
be that surprised. So I love it.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I think Tom he's going to be a high end
wide receiver to any any of those weeks.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Agreed, Yeah, who is your who is your mid range purchase?
Who's your mid range acquisition to go help bring a
title to people before the trade deadline.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
This is so this guy will be super easy to
get because he plays on a terrible team, one of
the worst teams in the league, with bad quarterback play.
But for some reason, man, I tell you, man, he
gets it done over and over again. Jacoby Myers. Jacoby
Myers is maybe the most unsung fantasy asset in the
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whole NFL. I just think we just dismiss him every
single year. But now that he is and then leaving
when DeVonta Adams left or had a hamstring injury, you
don't look at Jacoby as a number one where I receiver.
But I'm gonna give you his target share for the
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last five weeks on a team that is so bad
at running the ball they only can throw because they're
either not running the ball well or they're down by
twenty points and have to throw. His target share is
the last five weeks nine ten, nine, seven eleven, that's
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pretty damn good. The last four weeks, the three weeks
of the Fantasy playoffs, and week fourteen. He plays Tampa Bay,
who's thirty first in past defense. He plays Atlanta who's
twenty fourth in past defense. He plays Jacksonville, who's thirtieth
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in past defense, and he plays the New Orleans Saints,
my New Orleans Saints, who are twenty ninth in past defense.
Jacoby Myers is going to be especially in PPR leagues,
but if you're in a half PPR league, he can
be just as useful. He is going to be so consistent.
He won't have Mike Evans blow up weeks, but he
will get you fifteen to twenty points every single week,
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market down guaranteed, because it's just him.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Is that like a Is that like a full PPR league?
Because there's no way he's averaging fifteen.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Ok No, I'm not he's averaging. I'm saying he will
get you that Honestly.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
He will get you. If he gets you, if he
gets hen, you're happy. There's no way, no.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Way, Okay, if he average you want his last five
weeks from told his last five weeks to target shares seventeen.
This is half PPR seventeen seventy seven. I'm sorry, Okay,
let me go back. Seventeen points yep seven and a
half points, ten points, fourteen points, sixteen and a half points.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
That's he's that is I thought that was five games.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Right, that's the last five games. That's when no Davante Adams.
That's when Davante Adams left.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
That's thirteen points a game. That's incredible. That's that's a
that's a high end wide receiver too. And that's good defensive.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
That's good defense. That's Kansas City, That's that's Denver. That's
good defensive.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Okay, I might be convinced because I was like, there's
no way he's scoring at an elite level. Jakobe Myers
or Cede Lamb rest of the season. That's where we're at.
And this is what I saying, like, obviously you're not
gonna make the clame, dude. This is what's great about dynasty.
If you're a redraft and you have ceed Lamb, you're screwed.
Like you're just screwed. Let me just be clear with you.
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You are toast. Your sash is done.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Almost at Jacoby. I literally was this close to san Koby.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I'll be honest with you, I would I would rather
have so many people other than cul because we do this.
We do this every season where name brand like, Oh,
maybe it'll work out, Maybe it will work out. The
Raiders are what they are on offense. If they have
a quarterback problem, they just put in Aidan O'Connell. Oh,
if they have an aid o'connall problem, they put in
minsheuw it. You're at where you're at, and you're on
they've been playing catch up all season. We know what
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they are. Like you were talking about, I thought I
was gonna disagree harder, but the reality is I love
it as a floor play. I don't think the touchdowns
will be there. But the worst game, I think you said,
we're seven and a half points. That's what you need
in your flex, you know what I'm saying. Like and
Jacoby Malis has always been a very savvy receiver. He
used to play QB. I think that is a huge
part of it. He knows how to just find those
passing lanes that are open, especially in zone. I like it.
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I like it a lot. I want to disagree more
it's not a long term solution, but that's cheap points.
It's an un sexy name. I'm gonna go trade for
him right now.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
He's worth a mid second round pick one. I think
it's twenty eight hundred points.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
He's yeah, you could get him less than give it away.
You could get him for less than that. You could
take a player that Yeah, hey QJ, look at the upside,
the touchdown upside. Go get Jacobe Myers. You're gonna get
guaranteed floor play. That's big for playoffs. Man, I love
that Rock Bowers. I do think is the one there,
but there's plenty of targets to go around. I like
it and move on to my cheap option. Man, Dude
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doing the show like like taking the time to research.
He thinks it makes you a better player, Like it
really does. Like I almost traded away Jalen Hurts a
couple of weeks ago. I go on to do the show,
I do my research. Are like, no shot, I'm talking
about this. I'm making trades as I reached. I just
traded for Nause in a league because my cheap option
is Nauji Harris Bonus DeAndre Hopkins. If you can still
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get d hop Please do I just think another floor receiver.
It's like, hey, he's he's a super safe eight points
a week with upside if Kansas City and if Isaiah
Pacheco comes back and opens up the game for him.
But Naji Harris for Tank Bigsby straight up gets it
done right now, Naji Harris for any second gets it
done less than a second. You can package things together.
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Naji Harris is in a contract year playing on the
best Steelers offense he's played on ever. Now he doesn't
He's not getting the targets like he did when Big
Ben was there. But Naji Harris looks different this season.
He's running angrier, he's playing with a chip on his shoulder,
and I think he could go on to have an
incredible finish to the season. With Russell Wilson under center.
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You know, the rushing touchdowns weren't there because Fields was
obviously taking them. You know, during the early part of
the season when the offense was finding its legs, Nag
has found his. He's playing at an unbelievable level. This
is such a safe RB two to finish out the year.
They have an incredible schedule. I already outlined with the Pickens.
You know Baltimore's night. Now balt some more is good
against the run, very good against the run. But I
think there will be scoring opportunities because the passing game
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is gonna get him down there. The point is this
is a brand new Steelers offense. It's scored more than
twenty points multiple times, and years past it was like, dude,
how they were nine and eight with Kenny Pickett under quarterback.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
I'm just like, now we know you want to.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Talk about you want to talk about presidential candidates. Mike Tomlin,
Secretary of defense every more all around the world just stops.
People start developing. It's just gonna be great.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, they need to study that man. They need to
study that man and how you coach. He's the coach
k of of football.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Like he's better than that, bro, He's he's gonna go down.
First of all, I think what's crazy is that usually
when you have this is a complete Mike tamp Tomlin tangent.
And I don't mean to go on it because screwing
is the Steelers all that? Okay? Every all right, Bill Belichick,
Nick Sabin, I'm trying to think of they're super famous,
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like head coaches, like some of the most successful coaches
in NFL or football history, right, like Bill Parcells. I'm
trying to who else has got many Tory tom Andrew
was different. He was kind of a class act through
and through. But all of those guys I just mentioned,
what are they? They're disciplinarians, They're authoritative figures that had
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this kind of like the players are going to do
what I say the way I say it. Mike Tomlin
is the most beloved and respect he is the player's
coach who is not a player's coach, And I think
it like I like, I'm like, there's an anonymous pole
that gets posted every season the Athletic there's an incredible article.
I encourage you to go read it. Last year they
did it. It was like, who's the coach you'd want
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to go play for the most if you weren't playing
for the team you were and this is anonymous pole.
Ninety one percent of the poll said Mike Tomlin like unequivalently,
like how do you how do you be that liked
and that's successful all the time. I know he's only
won one Super Bowl, but it's like it's hard to
win Super Bowl, you know what? I mean, ask Kyle Shanahan,
and he's an incredible coach, Like I just for ins
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that and be that beloved. It's like he's having his
cake and eating it too, and nag, now she's gonna
get a piece of that, you know what I mean.
So it's it's a good year for the Steelers. I'm
jealous from a distance.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Oh my god. No, I would love to be a
Steelers fan right now. But well, the time has come, Josh,
I finally disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (44:26):
I do, sir, I do, sir, And I will explain.
I do believe that if I had Najie Harris, I'd
be trying to trade him right now. Okay, So let
me go down on the list of what. Let me
go down the list of why. Number one, he has
had some really really good matchups in the first half
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of the season for run defense. He played Atlanta, UH,
he played Indianapolis. He's played Dallas, who's a run funnel.
He's played Vegas, He's played the Giants in Washington, who
are better to pass that they are against the run.
He's been very good in all of those games. Jalen
Warren also was hurt for a lot of those games,
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and Najee his snap percentage was I would say, oh,
so Jalen Warren got hurt. I think week two, so,
Week three, fifty nine, Week four sixty nine, Week five
seventy four. The last week against Washington that he just
played with Jalen Warren healthy, he played forty seven percent
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of the snaps. I'm nervous. I'm nervous that Jalen Warren
will come in and take some of this, some of
these carries away. And he looked really good last week,
almost scored a touchdown. If he didn't, I don't yeah, no,
almost a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Remember he fumbled, fumbled.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
He fumbled, but yah, it's Jake. I mean, he doesn't
fumble very often. I'm gonna give him a pass. The
schedule is brutal bro you ready, Baltimore, Cleveland since he
that could get by with that Cleveland again, Philly, Baltimore
hans this city in the championship game. Yeah, that is
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a murderer's real schedule. I don't want to put my
eggs in the basket of a touchdown dependent running back,
and I think that Naji, in this particular case with
Jalen Warren back will be more touchdown dependent, especially if
they are close games and they are playing or they're
playing from behind, which they could against Baltimore, Cincinnati, Philly,
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Baltimore again and Kansas City. All those could be games
where they playing catch up. So I'm worried about Najie Harris.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
My counter. I understand that you said you don't want
touchdown dependent, but most running back David Montgomery is touchdown dependent,
and Devintgomery's RB one in the season's incredible pads. In
three games Russell Wilson has played, Nause has scored in
two of them. I think multiple touchdown games are coming.
I really do believe that the offense as a whole
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is better and the scoring opportunities are better. He's only
got three rushing touchdowns on the entire season. I think
Naji can finish with eight or nine. I believe all
of them come in the back half of the season.
The other thing is, I don't think the Steelers. I
don't think the Steelers are going to be playing catch
up in all those games. That Steelers defense is elite,
and so I believe not. Listen, I'm not saying Nase
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is gonna come up here and be an RB one.
What I'm saying is he's looked different. He's looked incredible,
and someone for you to be able to trade multiple thirds,
for you to be able to trade just a second,
you know, a late second for Naji straight up, you know,
a Khalil Shakir for Naj straight up to get you know,
(47:46):
even fifty five plus. If an offense is scoring twenty
five plus a week, I'll take those odds because I
think the Steelers are about to open it up like
people wouldn't believe. I don't think it's all gonna be russ.
I think they're gonna have Goalin carries and score rushing touchdowns.
So it's all based on price. If I was paying
more than the second, i'd have an issue. But it's
because it's cheap and it's steady.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
And I and I think that's where I'm coming from.
He's right now. I mean, everybody's been waiting on the
nausea breakout. He scored three out of the last four weeks.
Like you said, he has had one hundred yards three
out of the last four weeks. His value is at
its peak that I can remember from for Naji Harris
(48:27):
in the last since his rookie season, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
So I agree, it's going back up.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
Yeah. So my problem is I just don't want to
pay that premium for Naji Harris right now now. I
would be willing to pay him on a discount, especially if,
like next week against Baltimore he doesn't have a good game,
I will go get him. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Well, let me ask you this. If you're not willing
to pay for Nase, who is cheap that you are
willing to pay for? Because give me a better name
than the nause with in terms of the workload and
the touchdown upside, because I feel like it's a great bargain.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
I don't have a good name at all. This is
a very this is this is not sexy at all.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Bro. And you know who well, you know Jacoby Myers
was super sexy.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
So oh yeah that was that was.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Actually you con miss me on Jacoby Myers. Like it's
like he took the glasses off and let the hair
down like in the you know what I mean, it
was like man Hathaway and no, what was it? What
was it the Princess Star Sorry yeah yeah yeah yeah,
where it's like she literally just gets her hair straight
and takes off the glasses. It's like it's a complete
makeup for it.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Oh yeah for me.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
With Jacoby Myers, she was so beautiful. Yeah, thirteen points
a game. Wow.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah, well Jacoby Meyers looks like Holly Berry next to
this guy. Uh. And I'm talking about Gus Edwards, the
gust plus.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
This is the fourth rounder. This is free, This is
a Waivers This isn't the Waivers show, Thomas. This is terrible.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
No, I know, but look, but look listen me. We
all left him for dead, everybody. And if somebody said
that they were on the Gus bus, uh from week
one when he looked like he was washed, they're lying. Uh,
Gus looks so washed those first two weeks. I personally, though,
(50:20):
believe that because they came into the season believing he
was going to be the running back one he just
wasn't fully healthy yet and him having the time.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Off the Chargers just just to clarify I think.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
The fantasy community. Oh no, I'm sorry, Chargers, Yeah no,
I thought that. I think the Chargers came in thinking
he would be the number to lead back and because
he did not look the way he probably looked in
training camp or whatever, was ailing him at that moment
before this injury, before the ankle injury, I think that
(50:55):
he wasn't fully healthy and they could see it, so
they stopped giving him the ball. And then obviously he
went on ir my point in saying that is we
all left him for dead and said, oh, this guy's
watched he's twenty nine. You know he's had acl tears,
he's had all this blah blah blah blah. One thing
about Gus Edwards, though he was brought in to be
(51:16):
the goal line back, he scored thirteen touchdowns last year. Yes,
Lamar Jackson was his quarterback, but he still can score
near the goal line. He is efficient as a runner.
He averages four point eight yards to carry for his career.
I'm not saying that Gus is gonna change the course
of your dynasty or fantasy season. What I'm saying is
(51:39):
he is so cheap right now. He just came off
the ten carries for fifty five yards and he looked good.
So if he gets more work, which I think will
happen as he ramps up in JK. Dobbins, who's been
getting twenty five plus carries a game, is probably gonna
slow down Gus Edwards will be a good flat to
(52:00):
plug in and you might get sixty yards in a
touchdown any given week with as much as the Chargers
run the ball. He is Probably he could be on waivers.
I just picked him up in the sixteen team league
last week. On waivers.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
He could be us Forth that sleeper.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
That's what I'm saying. I'm just saying, that's cheap. This
is we've scraped in the bottom of the barrel.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Hey, that's a bargain shopping. I love a good bargain shopping.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
Yeah, But if you can get him for so cheap
right now, and you're contender and you don't let's say
you don't have let's say you don't have a first,
you don't have a second, you spent all of your capital.
You might have fab you might have a third or
a late third or fourth that you could throw at
Gus Edwards, and Gus Edwards can get you a couple
of good weeks down the stretch. I firmly believe.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
That I'll tell you what, man. First of all, I
want to hate the take, but the price is so cheap.
It's like what I agree with you entirely, that he's
a capable back on a very capable offense. What I
would disagree with the most is that I think the
Chargers knew JK. Dobbins was the guy because Greg Roman
was the offensive coordinator and he always had had Dobbins
ahead of Gus Edwards when they were both in Baltimore
(53:08):
together in the depth shot. Now, I know Dobbins had
that achilles injury, but I just to pat myself on
the pack. Do that show I'm on right. I always
believe Dobbins was going to be the lead back there,
and I saw it that way in Best Ball, and
I saw that way in a lot of redraft leagues.
And it's paid out, it's paid dividends. But I don't
(53:29):
disagree that Edwards has value. He is an efficient runner
and he's a great goal line back, like you said,
and I do think he'll mix in to get a
touchdown here there. And I think most importantly running backs,
we've had an incredible year in terms of running back injuries,
not being as catastrophic really as wide receiver injuries, but
you're still gonna need running back depth going into the playoffs, right,
and also you have bi apocalypses coming, you know, Week fourteen,
(53:52):
Week twelve. Those aren't technically playoff weeks, but if you're
five and five, if you're six and four, they can
be right. And so having someone you know, Let's say
you're the brief owner you have literally no one to
start in week twelve, or you're the James Cook owner,
no one to start week fourteen. Congratulations, Gus Edwards is
going to give you something with the chance of giving
you something great. If you get twelve points at a
Gus Everwards when you started him, you feel like a
(54:14):
genius because you picked them up. Like you said off
of Waivers, Listen, that's all the time we got for
this show. This has been a blast. It's good to
get back in the studio with you, Thomas. Any final
thoughts for owners as they prepare to either completely rebuild
and be depressed going into the offseason or as the
playoff push truly begins for him.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Pick you lane, don't wait, don't wait any longer like
if this week, if it does? You know? Are you
know what you are? Bill's Parcel said, you recossize what
you are whatever you know who you are. Sell while
you can sell, or buy while you can buy, because
everybody else is in the arms race, So don't be
left in.
Speaker 2 (54:54):
A cole if you have. If you're a four win
team and you're riddled with injury, don't try to take
a bunch of waiver wire guys into the playoffs. Dynasty
is great because you can look forward to the offseason.
There's actually so much satisfaction in trading away players that
aren't gonna serve you next year that are super vibe.
Go trade away to Mike Evans. Charge a little more
(55:14):
than a second, right, I'm gonna pay it. If I'm
a contendant. That's a win win deal. Don't don't. Don't
hold onto things because of pride, you know, delayed gratification.
April will be all about you. We'll be talking about
rookies in no time, speing time all the time we got.
Thanks so much for listening to another episodes that day, Exchange.
We will see you next week.
Speaker 3 (55:33):
Hopefully your rosters are a little bit healthier, and so
are arms.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
Okay,
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