Pre-Season Rookie redraft

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I must.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome back to another episode of The Dynasty Exchange, the
only show where we can somehow find the silver lining
to Justin Herbert having a foot injury already in training camp.
I am joined, here's the silver lining right away, I
have both Dylan and I have Thomas T. D. Smith
with me. The Dynasty Exchange is at full strength, even
though right away, jumping into the hot topic, the Chargers

(00:29):
are not we told you this before preseason happened. The
most actionable news that's gonna come out of preseason is
not the hype, which we have to get into. I'm
so excited to talk about certain quarterbacks finding their way
back to relevance via training camp. But right away, I
just I gotta know, Thomas. You just traded away Justin
Herbert in the League of Record. Do you feel like

(00:51):
you dodged a bullet because the report is that he
has planter fasciitists He's gonna maybe be in a boot
for two weeks and this could be a lingering injury.
You just traded him away in the League of record.
Do you feel like you're just lucky? Or is this
not something we should be overly concerned about?

Speaker 3 (01:07):
No, I think it's something to be concerned about. Like
you said, if it's a lingering injury, then I mean,
what we expected to be the biggest change in Justin
Herbert that would help you in the Dynasty and fantasy
community would be his rushing upside right in this new offense.
Now we don't know if he's gonna be able to

(01:30):
rush or run those like RPOs like we thought he
was headed into this year, So now you kind of
look at him like he's a middling quarterback. But I mean,
if you're planning for the future, that's fine to have
him on your team. But this year, I think he
takes a huge hit and it's gonna cost people their championship.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
I know we're getting to business right away. We have
so much to cover in this show. It's it's still
the beginning of August, but it feels like Redraft, like
fantasy football is about to be prime full season. We
have so much we have to get through, so we
gotta we gotta get to it right away, Dylan, you know,
jumping off of Thomas's comments there, the long term is
is Justin Herbert still a top ten Dynasty QB, especially

(02:12):
considering you may have a lost season this year kind
of like Joe. This reminds me the Joe Burrow injury,
by the way, the calf injury, and in training camp
we knew it was gonna linger affected his mobility. Do
you downgrade Justin Herbert even from a long term for you,
because this is looking like a lost transition season where
he'll eventually get, you know, comfortable with her Uh John Harball?

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Yeah, I mean John Harbaugh seems to be the bigger
issue here to me, Like, I don't I.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
Already is it just sorry? Sorry? Does say Jim?

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Jim? Jim?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I got the Harball. Guys confused, but just run the ball?

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah, yeah, rattle off Jim Harball. Sorry, I already saw
that as a red flag. So I didn't really have
Herbert as a top ten Dynasty quarterback in my eyes
already add in and bake in this injury.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Like there's guys like we talked about a little bit
before the show to who's going behind him, Rock Perty,
who's going behind him? Dak Prescott who's going behind him?
And to me, all three of those guys should be
ahead of Justin Herbert, like just based off of the
offenses that they're in in the volume that they're gonna
see throwing the ball. Heck, I mean with the offense.
Let me ask you guys this, With the offense, I'm

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talking fantasy and the offense that we expect Jim Harbo
to run in la versus the offense that we've seen
ran in Detroit. Do you want Jared Goff or do
you want Justin Herbert?

Speaker 2 (03:33):
And they both just signed big extensions too. No, no, no, Thomas,
I'm gonna hide.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
If I'm a win Now team, I want Jared Golf.
If I am playing for the future, I still want
Justin Herbert.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah. I think the future is still bright for Herbert.
If I'm building a team, this might be one of
those win Now trades where you roll the dice and
you try to Jared Goff. But I think we've seen
Jared Goff at his absolute ceiling and that's never been
the quarterback too. Herbert still has that in him. And Frankly,
you talked about brock perty Dylan, you don't know. The
number one passing a rushing offense last year was the

(04:14):
forty nine Ers, and in terms of pass rate, they
had some of the fewest attempts in the League. I
think like thirty first, if not thirty second. The Niners
I'm talking about and brock perty showed us what an
efficient quarterback can do. I'm not comparing it or saying
that the Chargers are going to be the Niners in
one season, but I do think there is is a
road ahead for a super efficient justin Herbert. Well, the
plenty of fantasy upside, but the last season right now

(04:35):
is the issue for me.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
Well, the biggest.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Difference is the talent too. Like you don't have Iu
deebo and Christian McCaffrey on the offense. You've got I
don't even know who's going to be the running back,
Gus Edwards at this point.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
McConkie, yeah, yeah, whoever it is. I mean JK.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Dobbins, come on now. And then Lad McConkie is the
wide receiver one, Like, come on, it's not the same offense.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
Like it's just.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
I'm worried about I'm worried about Herbert and with plant
our fancy eye. It's like fascia it is, however you
say it, I've had it now. I'm not a doctor
and I'm not a pro athlete, but it's a lingering injury,
and it's like, if they rush him too quick, it's
going to linger into the season. And if I'm not mistaken,
it's on his plant foot, his right foot, so it's
not that's not good.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
So I'm I love, I'm worried about it.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
This is you know, I'm watching a ton of Olympics
right now, and it's like every four years I become
a gymnastics expert, you know what I mean? Oh my lord, one,
you can't with the wolf turn now. That's why someone
by by the way, someone files shout out great comeback
soon you lee also a great cup. Huge Olympic fans
separate side note, huge Olympic fan. Yeah, I'm sure the
bleedover between Dynasty players and Olympic fans is probably a

(05:42):
small as you that appreciate. But like just hearing you
talk about playing for Fasciayes in the preseason, we all
become injury experts again, Like I'm like, yeah, these these
things linger, and that's really what comes with playing this
game a long time. You know, you're paying attention to
these players year in and year out. Later on in the show,
we're going to be doing a rookie redraft from just
the twenty twenty four class for two reasons. One, I

(06:04):
ran into a personal friend who's like, hey man, my
rookie draft's coming up. I'm like in August. He goes, yeah,
we gotta remember that there's some dynasty players. It's growing
as a community and it's still time to refresh. Hey,
what what as we expect from not just the rookie
class this year? But where would you rank them now?
Because there is so much new data And we said beforehand,
don't pay too much attention to preseason, but you can

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only operate off of the information you currently have, and
injuries like this one, they're significant. I really do think
it's going to be a transition season for the Chargers.
So if you're in any type of win now expectation,
you need to throw it out. I would not other
than JK. Dobbins, who's just so cheap. He's worth the
dart throw. I've taken him a lot in underdogs like sleep,

(06:47):
you know, best Ball Leagues, things like that. There's really
no one on the Chargers that I expect this season
to be, you know, fantasy reliable. I think you're gonna
get some good games out of Josh Palmer times and
you know, maybe at the back half the season Herbert
can return. I like him in the long term, but
I think he's gonna fall out of the top ten
qbs on keep trade cut, and I think he may

(07:08):
be a sneaky buy now candidate towards the end of
this season.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I was gonna say, right now, probably one of the
best buy.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Low offenses you're gonna find.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, everybody's value is dipping if you want, like, I mean,
somebody will be worth something this year, but if you're
playing for the future, this is the perfect time to
buy something cheap.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
And just yeah, if I.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Had to put my money on someone in that Chargers
offense wide receiver wise, it would be Josh Palmer. We've
already seen him do it with Herbert. I just and
going back to Herbert, like, Herbert's.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
Talent is undeniable.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Like if we're talking about Herbert and Goff's talent, obviously
I take Herbert like no one's gonna no one's gonna
say that. I just think when we're thinking very logically
about the offense, the NFL offense and for fantasy purposes,
I mean last year we got Jared Goff coming off
a QB seven season, Like, that's hard.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
So that's what that's carrying a lot of leads.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
If the see if this season they are challenged a
little bit more, you could see Jered Golf going to
with five thousand passing yards and more touchdownsand yet last
year Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
I mean they're they're in Yeah, they're in the system
to do that. But yeah, that is the call. I mean,
that is the season we're in, guys. The win now
versus build for the future. Everything in March and April's
future youth is at a premium scoring points right now.
The market has reversed. Is It's exactly what you want.
Staying on quarterbacks, listen, I had to get the Justin
Herbert news out of the way because it's the bigger news. Dylan,

(08:35):
I'm going to let you lead off this segment because
there has been news out of Pittsburgh and what you
told me in the pre show got me hot and bothered.
It's a redemption arc, like I've never heard. What were
your thoughts exactly as to what's going on in Pittsburgh
specifically at the quarterback position for Superflex.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, man, listen, I want to say those of you
that have listened to the show from last season to
this point. You guys know, thank you, thank you, yes,
thank you, thanks to say about the journey.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
But you guys know that.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
I was not high on Justin Fields at all. I've
always been a rich over Justin Fields. Even when Justin
Fields was being taken top ten in Dynasty drafts, Josh
did that this top ten in Dynasty drafts this time
last year. I saw the writing on the wall and
I never and you know this, Josh, because you've been
a part of the show as well. You guys know,

(09:25):
I never said it was Justin Field's talent. I did
say that he needed to be developed as a passer.
That was not gonna happen in Chicago. What we've seen
happen in Pittsburgh is, yes, Russell Wilson's been hurt, but
Russell Wilson's still there, and Russell Wilson still has NFL
experience and has been He's played at an elite level.
So even having that guy in your locker room, partnered

(09:48):
with the Justin Fields, partnered with a Mike Tomlin, partnered
with an Arthur Smith who has worked with quarterbacks similar
in Mariota and Ritter su or whatever was Ryan.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Tannehill's best years came with Arthur Smith's efficient exactly two
years there, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
And that's I just want to play it. That's a
great point because those are not good quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yet they were in the AFC Championship game with Tannehill Ritter.
They came down to the last week if they were
going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
I'm just saying, So, I mean in Tannehill, we saw
Tannehill be a top ten fantasy quarterback.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
Oh yeah, top ten in Tannehill. Where's Tannehill? I don't
even think he's on an NFL roster. So is that
all that to say?

Speaker 4 (10:29):
What I've seen in justin fields, He's finally getting the
attention he needs as a quarterback. He was accurate. He
was accurate in college. That's always going to be his
issue though. I don't know that he's ever going to
be this perfectly accurate quarterback.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
But he just needs help.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
With understanding the game and how to process at this speed.
If he gets that partner with his rushing wheels up, Josh,
what you're what you're getting to and what you're pointing
at is I said, I'm in on this justin field.
I am actually it costs. He's QB twenty eight, QB
twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Let me add something, Let me add one caveatter that, Dylan,
because I'm.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
In on justin fields too.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
But just to piggyback what you just said, I don't
even think it matters if he knows how to if
he gets better at processing. I think in the Arthur
Smith offense, you're not making a lot of reads you like.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Usually he.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Has a great deep ball too, So he showed that
at Ohio State, which he didn't have a lot of
at Chicago.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
He would miss done that, Moody.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
If he could narrow those mistakes down, I think you'll
see a dude with a thousand yards possibly double digit touchdowns.
We've seen it done last year with two different quarterbacks
who have probably less Russian skills than justin fields. And
if he could throw for if he could throw for
three thousand yards.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Oh my god, you got a quarterback's five. He's top five. Easy. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
And all that to say, I mean it's not looking
good for russ It's it's not like good.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
His injury is putting them behind.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Well, and that's that's really the news. If you have
been paying attention. I fully expected as the number one
Justin Field's fanboy. Dylan absolutely like built his career on Hey, Josh,
I was right about Justin Fields on this show, just
like Hey, remember how you can correct you Like I
just ate Crow. That was like the one real swing
and miss from last year because I believe in him
so much, simply from the rusting upside. I fully expected

(12:26):
Russ to start the year and it was going to
take an injury down the line, like week eight, week nine,
maybe we'd see what Fields in action. Russ starts camp injured.
Fields has taken all the reps at one and I'm
not talking. There's been a few bits of news because
you could. You could go to any training camp, go
search any team by keyword. You'll get some highlights. Fields
has been blowing up Twitter and trending. Apparently he's thrown

(12:49):
fifty touchdown kid, you not over fifty touchdowns versus three interceptions.
I keep in mind some of those are drills, red zone.
It's not the same thing. But like every Steelers account,
I followed because obviously I'm a George Pick and like shareholder,
permanently I'm not on the board of trustees. For the
George Pickens.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Fans club the only one.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, well, no, it's actually getting getting a little.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Up.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
I don't know, I just don't understand it. Vol offense, Josh,
let me ask you this, how many of those clips
that you've seen of George Pickens does he have a
foot of separation?

Speaker 5 (13:27):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Quite a bit of him.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Everyone's a contested catch and it's one hand and it's
a nice catch.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
You're just not gonna make that.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
In the red zone. It's jump ball stuff for sure.
But no, he is being used over the middle of
the field far more. There's a lot more in cuts,
a lot more, and that's how you use He is
great separating at the intermediary level. He's not someone in
the short He's not Deantay Johnson.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
He's not gonna like it's the same game as though,
like it's the same game as like they're gonna.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Look at what A. J. Brown did in his early
years developing with Ryan Tannel. I think, I mean, look
how Drake London was hyper targeted. I think you're gonna
see that with Pickens. I'm talking about fields. The point is,
if you are a super Flex Dynasty owner and you
have held congratulations I think there's hope. The question is
do you cash in on this hope early? If you
can get a single first for Field, should you sell

(14:18):
them for a first and get rid of the risk
right now? Dylan in a super flex league.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
I mean, context matters, but in a vacuum, you've got
to sell them for a first. I'm not that confident
just because of the shakiness. I think if you can
get a first, well, you know what, I take that
back next year's class. I would probably take a bet
on Fields at quarterback over any of the quarterbacks coming
into twenty five so so far, I take that back.
I would keep Fields for a first.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Okay, okay, that's fair.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
I would roll the dice.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
No, I think it's worth it just based on the upside.
We've seen him be a top five Fantasy QB, so
I think I think that makes sense. But that to me,
those are the two biggest quarterback storylines that have come
out of camp so far, and it's really exciting. I
mean football just fields, just around the corner. I felt
a little well before we move on, I was a
little bit disappointed by the Hall of Fame game, Like,

(15:05):
obviously you're not expecting a lot, but I was hoping
Kayleb Williams would make an appearance. Speaking of rookies in general,
have you guys heard or seen anything that has changed
your review on any of these rookie qbs. This was
a touted class, and you know, for people going to
rookie drafts, I know we're about to draft, but has
there been any maybe bit of advice or something that
you've seen that you want to kind of highlight here

(15:26):
before we move on and get into this rookie mock draft.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
I mean, have a I have an opinion, but it
goes along with my pick and our draft, so I'll
save that one, all right. But generally speaking, I will say,
like it's important to pay attention to in training camp
these quarterbacks, but don't let training camp hype just inflate
your head on these players because the reality is is
they still do not have NFL experience. And so you

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see JJ McCarthy throwing fifty touchdowns in one interception and
Kayleb Williams is just throwing dots to Roma does like
it's great and all, but it's it's really with all rookies,
like even the leak Neighbors, who's absolutely crushing it at camp.
Like every time you hear the league neighbors name mentioned
on Twitter or on x It's it's something phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
I just think he's either the best wide receiver ever
or the Giants are gonna have the worse than Secondary's.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yeah, So generally speaking, I would say, like going into
your rookie drafts, don't don't lean too much in on
the hype right now, do your due diligence and know, like,
understand the offense that they're in and what that will
look like against actual NFL defenses.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Love it, Tom, say thoughts before we go to a
quick break.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, I would piggyback everything Dylan said.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
If I'm an actor, it's kind of like a self tape.
You could nail a self tape. Anybody could do it.
You get fifteen tries, you're comfortable, you're in the surroundings
of your own home or whatever, you're reading with your
best friend.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Go to Broadway and try the same thing.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
You go stand on that stage in front of all
of those people who paid that money to see you
say your soliloquy or your monologue or whatever, and I
promise you the real talent and the poise will come
out now. I'll say the one thing that I'm keeping
the eye on in camp.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
We got.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
The amount of people who can relate to you being
an actor is like fewud farbitory. Someone you mentioned public speaking.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
We only got two hundred. We only got two hundred anyway, man,
were good.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, guy, Josh, you're telling me you've never done a soliloquy.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Okay. First of all, I was, you know, speech in
the bank. I just love the fact.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
That Shakespeare last week or something.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I always arose by name, you know, Dylan. I just
was I was getting hyped off the fact that you're
like the amount of the amount of gall it. Probably
I was just gonna hype you up to tape yourself
fifteen times to get it taking then to have the
balls to go and broa, I ain't doing it. There's
no shock. I ain't gonna get that far. So you know,

(18:05):
I'll see you for pursuing pursuing greatness.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Thank you, brother. I appreciate you. Appreciate it. I will
keep it going.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
But I just want to just put a ball on
you said the rookie quarterbacks. I keep hearing Caleb Williams
as a leader and that he's kind of taking over
the locker.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Room and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Like, there's been a lot of Beat reporters talking about this,
and I feel like that was the biggest knock on
him coming out for a lot of people. I mean,
like the Happy Feed or whatever. But everybody was like,
is this kid gonna be able to like lead a
franchise or people don't want to follow him? You know,
it's a new generation quarterback and all that stuff. It
doesn't seem like he's having a problem. So I'm keeping

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my ear to the ground on that because if that's
the case, if he could come in and take it
control this locker room year one, then wheels up for him.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
No, that's big time. I mean, listen, you know, I
hate to be kind of the curmudgety old sports fan,
but like the painted nails, it's the leadership thing. Is like,
it's the painted nail storyline. It is twenty twenty four.
Noah Lyle's just one of the men leader with painted nails.
Maybe the new generation is just gonna be fine. We
will get to the new generation. We have a way

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late in the season rookie mock draft right after this
Welcome back into the Dynastic change. So it's the season
of drafts, and admittedly we're going to become not a
redraft show by any stretch, but the redraft principles, redraft strategy,
we're gonna be talking about it. Because it's August. Everyone's
doing their drafts right now. This is Fantasy Christmas. The

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season's about to start. Everyone is worried about their team
this year. But there are some dynasty leagues who still
haven't drafted rookies. They have either the patients or maybe
they're not as active where they're able to kick that
rookie draft down the line, and now they're focusing on
it today. Does it make me regret now that I
have more data drafting so early. No, Because if you're
a dynasty player, give me the wall combine is going on.

(20:01):
I want to draft. I'm so excited anytime there's news
about players and actions about players, you want to be
able to make moves because of it. So we thought
it would be good to kind of get in the
head of people who have practiced Patients and Dylan before
the show. I think we chatted a little bit. Thomas.
I know we did as well. My rankings have changed.
Training camp has given me new stuff. And there's even

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been some injuries. A couple of rookies have already been
a little bit banged up, specifically Xavier Leget. We're gonna
see what that MRI says. We don't know what that
injury is. I just heard about that today, so I,
you know, know, came.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
He doesn't have a fracture, so okay, it came back a.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
But a lot of you know, players like Ricky Piersoll
I have some you know, practice film with him. It's
it's interesting to see how some of these guys have changed.
But we're just gonna jump right into it. Dylan's gonna
be drafting first. We're gonna go all the way to twelve.
Dylan's gonna have the one oh one, the one oh four,
et cetera. I'll have the one oh two, and then
Thomas will cap us off at the one oh three.
So every three picks, we will make every pick in

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this round and explained and have to justify why so,
Dylan format is this superflex League, minor tied end premium
half PPR, you know, the preferred Dynasty Exchange recommended method?
What are you doing at one on one? Has anything changed?

Speaker 4 (21:17):
There has been a slight change for me, and I
want to I want to lay this out a little bit. Okay,
give me, give me a couple of seconds here to
lay this out. So one thing I'll say, and you
touched on it earlier with more context, You've got to
change your perception on certain things, right like you can
go in coming into the rookie season, draft season, my

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QB one through and through Drake May, through and through
Drake May. And I still think Drake May is an
incredible talent. After seeing the off season program and training camp,
I'm a little not so sure what's going on in
New England and I'm not I don't know.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
I'm still in on the talent.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
And if I had to say today, Drake May is
my absolute QB two in this class. However, I have
a new QB one, a very new QB one, and
I've come around on this guy, my my one oh
one this year, and who I'm going to be taking
right here, right now, if I had to draft today,
is Jayden Daniels.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
So you were about to go JJ McCarthy there, I
was like new person, and you came back to Justin
Fields and a JJ McCarthy fan who are you and
what have you done with Dylan?

Speaker 4 (22:35):
And so here's why. Let me let me lay this out.
Jadeen Daniels. First of all, we're starting to see more
and more clips out of Washington's camp, and I mean,
the dude we know he's had an arm on him.
He is a dual threat quarterback that we know fantasy gold.
Out of all these quarterbacks, he's the most He's the
one that will be the most able to run the

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ball effectively and add fantasy value that way. Drake May
has that in his tool belt. We've seen Caleb Williams
do it a little, but we know Jaden Daniels is
going to do that. Not only that on his talent
talent aside, This dude's stepping into a Cliff Kingsbury offense.
You guys know, the last quarterback that had dual threat
capability that was in the Cliff Kingsbury offense won by

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the name of Kyler Murray, who finished sixth overall three overall. Yeah,
so we can't underestimate here the offense that he's going
into and very similar to Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray only
had d hop so it wasn't like he had like
tons of weapons around him that he was just thriving with,
so stepping into this offense with Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
He's got Austin Eckler to the backfield.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
We know Brian Brian Johns Orrid Brian Robinson thank you
is going to be what he is on the ground.
And then you've got Terry McLaurin, Johan Donson. Zach Ertz
is going to be a great target for him with experience.
Jaden Daniels, to me, Wheels up is the unquestioned one
O one. There's so many questions surrounding Drake May like
I said, who's my KEB two? And then even Caleb Williams.

(23:59):
He's got all the weapons around him, I still have
question marks. I don't know if he can do it.
So to me, it's Jayde Daniels at the one on one.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Wow, that was a bit of a flip. I love
the take because I think Jade Daniels is probably the
most underrated rushing QB we've had enter the end of
like with a quarterback with his rushing upside as. Anthony
Richmond had more buzz last year with not with I
mean Jay Dalils with the Heisman winner like Anthony Richson
had never rushed. You know, he had a couple of

(24:25):
highlight plays, but he didn't have nearly the production Daniels
Jadan Daniels in college. I think you're absolutely right to
have visited on Daniels. I'm a little mad framed.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
Yeah, it's the.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Frame with Jane Daniels. That's what people him.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
He not built like a linebacker, and they wonder if
he could take those hits, and that's the problem. And
he doesn't slide very well as he he didn't slide
very well at LSU.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
I don't know if they have. Yeah, he's gonna caught
him on that.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, no, we'll see what happens. Man, I'm knocking on
what as I says this. I just don't trust the
commanders formerly the Washington U. Their team name r G
three just comes to mind with Russian kids. So I'm
just like, I just there's still.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
That like.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, yeah, and that's all he ever got to hang
his head on. Correct, it's not his fault he got
he was failed failed him. Yeh know, Dylan, you messed
me up and you ruined my plan. Like I literally
chose the one or two because I thought I was
going to have the spicy take or the change in

(25:29):
super flex leagues. Listen, the correct pick here, the correct
pick if someone took Jayden Daniels, is still Marvin Harrison.
I thought you were going to stick with Marvin Harrison, Dylan.
I absolutely did. He's unquestionably the easiest player to pick here.
But I'm going to stick with who I had on
the board, who I thought was going to be there. Listen.

(25:52):
I would not have been brave enough prior. You know,
I think I flirted with this idea in April of
taking Marvin Harrison at one to one and Elak Neighbors
at one or two. I'm gonna take the Lak Neighbors here,
so I talk about him corctly my Elak Neighbors at
the one or two. It's talent multiplied by opportunity. I
don't need Daniel Jones. I think Milik Neighbors is special.

(26:14):
I don't think any of us are going to be
surprised if he outscores Marvin Harrison in his rookie year,
rookie year versus rookie year. The thing about Harrison we
love is the floor. I don't see a world where
Harrison busts at all Malik Neighbors based on a situation.
It could go wrong, but it sounds like the entirety
of the offense, of all of the hope and unfair

(26:35):
expectation that was put on safuon Barkley, they're now converting
into targets and putting on Malik Neighbors, who is younger,
more tread on the tire and looks unbelievable in camp.
I am so excited for Malik Neighbors what he can do.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
You know.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Watching the off season program with the Giants, I've mentioned
hard knock several times. He talked about if you don't
get me the ball early, I'm kind of gonna be
pissed off, and Brian Davile's like, yeah, that's not gonna
be a problem. We're just gonna get you the ball
earlily then, Like so, I just feel like the target
share as a rookie is going to be probably up
to one fifty, and that's that's a league winning player. Now,
that's a player that's going to catapult into the top
five dynasty wide receivers right away. Once again, I would

(27:11):
act if on the clock, I would probably lean Harrison,
but the gap has closed they're one A, one B
both as the wide receivers of this class and as
the one O one one of two. You can go
either direction, and I believe you're you're doing the right
thing for your franchise.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
That's spicy. That's spicy.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
But I will say and then Thomas, I'll let you
go on key trade cut. Malik Neighbors is number three
in super Flex rankings over Jaden Daniels. It goes Harrison Junior,
Caleb Williams Malik Neighbors. So, I mean, I think that's
a very spicy take, but according to this it's not
too far off.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
It's not as yeah, you're Jaden Daniels. Kind of ruined
my whole moment. I genually thought, you're like you do
guys here it's Marvin Harrison. That's what I get for
trying to have a plan, Thomas, you're at the one
of the three, Harrison's still on the board. Sorry to
take away, and he takes you had planned for yourself.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Use fan bagging signs of.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
I like, in no way, in no way in the
world where I have predicted that Caleb Williams and Marvin
Harrison were gonna be on the board.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Uh, man, this is crazy. By the way, LSU Baby
Go Tigers. I like where y'all heads at, and I
like I.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Also like the fact that both of y'all picks I
think are the probably the two most I do. Won't
say anything is guaranteed. I'll say the closest to sure
things as far as fantasy production goes, and you want
to score points and if you want to score out
the gate, those the two guys to get. So right here,

(28:39):
I guess this is such a toss up because it
kind of depends on your build at this point. If
you went quarterback and you have two studs, it's obviously
Marvin Harrison. If you didn't, it's got to be Caleb Williams,
because you know he's the best quarterback prospect you that
I don't know some analyst city seen in ten years

(29:01):
since Andrew Love.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
So this is a Sophie's choice.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
But I think if we planned in the Super Flex
League and I'm being safe, I'm gonna have to take
Cala Williams.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
That's why I'm gonna take Marvin Harrison Junior.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
That was such, That was so, that was such a
big switch. I was like about to make a thing. Oh,
Oh my god, why did we Because I'll be honest,
I should have taken Harrison. There the correct pick at
the one. I still lean Harrison over Neighbors. I just
I knew going into this mock draft I'm taking Neighbors.
I'm going to talk about Neighbors. Was so so I
was like all my all my notes were on Neighbors.

(29:45):
Harrison's Harrison is the correct pick. Thank you for not
completely ruining our credibility. You're at the one of four
and for people who are just now tuning in and
you've been out of the fantasy community, you know since
the end of last year. This your first ninety league whatever.
Caleb Williams, if you're not aware, has been the talk

(30:05):
of super Flex owners since twenty twenty three. Everyone thought
Caleb Williams was the consensus one oh one, and for
him to follow one O four here is something. It's
been a conversation we've had going back since February where
we were kind of like, I don't know if it's
Chicago that it's the best spot for Caleb Williams. So
the show's always been a little bit like we're not
out on Caleb Williams, but I don't want to speak

(30:27):
for all of us completely, but I would say as
a show, we're pretty much like tamper your expectations. We've
seen Chicago ruin many a quarterback, and so him being
at the one O four is not unique for this show,
even though it may be shocking for ADP. Because he
is the one oh one on sleeper ADP in rookie drafts,
he is unquestioned for most people. Even at this point.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
I just want to say, I tell you what made
the decision a little bit easier for me, because.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
As y'all was saying, like they are question marks that
go with Caleb Williams, like real life, he's a real
He's a real life quarterback versus a real life good
quarterback versus a fantasy stud or two different things Chicago
quarterbacks have routinely. I don't think wait, has any Chicago
quarterback thrown for four thousand yards.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
The bar is so low for him, so low.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Exactly, so I'm not expecting him to just come in
and just light it up right off the bat. I
expect Marvin Harrison to be the number one target getter
on a team with a really good quarterback right off
the bat, He's going to hit the ground, run it,
and I want to see what at that ends up.
And he's the best receiving prospect that we know of

(31:41):
for the last I don't know how many years and
we have. You got to take a chance on that,
You got to take a chance on greatness.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
I'm going to I'll go ahead here at the one
of four and I'm going to stick to my convictions.
And if you would have asked me three months ago
who I would have taken another one on one, it
would have been this guy. And the only reason Jayden
Daniels jumped him for me is because of like I said,
what's coming out of camp. I still am okay drafting
this guy. And when it comes to Caleb Williams and
this guy Drake May, it's you literally are gonna have

(32:13):
to pick and choose who you want to wait on.
Caleb Williams, to me, is not going to be great
right off the bat, Like we just talked about Drake May.
I don't know if he'll start right off the bat,
but I guarantee you when he gets the opportunity, he's
going to flash what I've seen on film, what I've
seen him with his arm, talent is phenomenal. Now he's
going out there at Patriots camp and thrown alongside Joe Milton.
Who Joe Milton. If you put him outside of pads

(32:36):
and have no defenders out there, that guy can make
any throw on the field. And so it's just making
Drake May look like like he's like mediocre. But when
it comes to actually processing the game, being able to
make plays, improvise and play at a high level, to me,
Drake May is that.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Is that.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
And on top of that, they're doing something.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Similar like they did in Green Bay in New England
where they have a plethora of young talent. You've got
Da Mario Douglas who's probably gonna be the wide receiver
one there. You've got Jalen Polk who they drafted, Javon Baker,
who I mean is the talk of Twitter right now
with how much he's in fare. Yeah, and so you
look at all the young talent, and on top of that,
people have to understand this is not the New England

(33:15):
Patriots team of old. This is not the Bill Belichick
rand team. It's not the whoever defensive coordinators calling offensive play.
It's not that team anymore. It's a brand new team.
It's a brand new coaching staff that's there. It's going
to be different. And so I like Drake May better
than Caleb Williams in the long run for fantasy production
because I believe in the talent around him. It's young talent,

(33:37):
and the coaching staff around him and the team in
general knows how to win.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Love that. So are you officially taking Drake May at
the one?

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, So Drake May still above Caleb Williams, Man,
I I did not want. Yeah, you guys are ruining
my play. I had this at some point. You have
to give you have to give credence to the one
on one of the NFL draft. I think Caleb Williams

(34:06):
is at the very least going to have three or
four years as the starter in Chicago to prove it.
Matt Eberflus proved he does not know how to develop
the QB. Yes, but I think Caleb Williams is going
to get to outlast him in Chicago where his fields
inherited him for the same amount of time. Caleb Williams
did some special stuff in college, and he does have

(34:28):
great weapons. I'm a little worried about the offensive line.
But that's the other thing is the Bears are a
very good team. Their defense got really good towards the
end of last year. They were seven We're gonna remember
they were seven to nineteen, right they were knocking on
the door of the playoffs, and their their starter was
injured repeatedly. At this point, that's a value for Caleb
Williams to fall that far in most people, That's about

(34:48):
where I would take him. You're not going to go wrong.
And even if he turns into Trevor Lawrence levels of production,
the youth and the age, certainly for Dynasty will carry
value for a long time. I mean, listen, if you
had traded away Trevor Lawrence last year, at this time,
he was quarterback seven, quarterback eight. So even if you
hadn't seen a superstar season, as long as there was
some flash of I think Trevor Lawrence is actually a

(35:11):
great prospect to bring up. Because Trevor Lawrence had as
bad of a rookie season as you could have had
with Urban Meyer, and his value stayed the same. That's
what you're buying when you buy Caleb Williams. The hype,
the Heisman's you know, almost multiple heismans that he brings.
I know was only one, but he brings so much
pedigree that the name value will last you a long time.

(35:32):
And so if for whatever reason, your eyes tell you
you don't like this player by midway through this year,
you can move off of him and still probably get
a king's ransom. And that's something we have to remember
as nasty managers. We're not always going to get it right. Dylan,
you told me Quentin Johnston last year was a bust,
and halfway through the season I finally agreed with you,

(35:52):
and I traded him away and I was still able
to get a first for him because there was someone
out there who believed in him. So I want to
preach strategy as much as I want to preach that.
Caleb Williams, by the way, can totally be a fantasy superstar.
Everyone just sort of already expects him to. And so
if for whatever reason he's not when you draft him,
you can resell him because there will be a buyer.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
So you bring up a great point, you bring up
a great print will real quick, and I want to
touch on it. Caleb Williams is the perfect value pick anywhere, Honestly, anywhere,
in the top five right, Like, he is probably the
safest floor from a value standpoint if you're looking to capitalize.
So if you're a rebuilding team, it totally makes sense

(36:31):
for you to take a Caleb Williams early on, Like,
from a value standpoint, He's going to maintain that value
for years on end. So if you need to flip
him at any point because you're still losing and you're
still rebuilding.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
You will be able to do that.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
Where's the rest of these Well, Marvin Harrison Jane is
probably the same way, but the rest of the guys
will extremely marvel.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
If Marv goes out and plays seventeen games and only
puts up eight hundred yards, what how do we feel?

Speaker 1 (36:54):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Like there's there's a in redraft leagues. Marvin Harrison's going
at the end of their started the second round. Caleb Williams,
we just talked about it. If he ever throws for
four thousand yards in the next four years in the NFL,
the Chicago will have a parade exactly. And so that's
also what he inherited. Like Trevor Lawrence was not only

(37:17):
not usable for fantasy, his rookie season he was downright awful,
one of the worst quarterbacks ever, and the next year
he was still We was like, well, it was Urban
Myers fault. If it fails in year one, none of
us are going it's Kayleb Williams fault or the media
certainly isn't. It'll be Eberflus. So that's just that's another
perspective you have to play, is that he's still going
to have the hype in the value Thomas, You're you're
on at the one of six. Any additional Caleb Williams

(37:38):
thoughts or you'd just agree with my overall genius there.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
And humility. No, Yeah, that was humble Bragg. Humble Bragg. No,
I agree with most of that. Man.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
I really don't have nothing to add except the fact
that I believe that if Marvin Harrison were to have
a down season, it would be because we overvalue. We're
over value You ain't him at this point, like the
Dynasty community is overvaluing his I say, immediate impact, and
it wouldn't be his fault. It would still be a

(38:10):
good rookie season by you know, rookie standards even for
one O two uh in Dynasty or in this case of.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
One O uh one O three one on one. Yeah,
there you go.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
But I think I think that if Caleb Williams does fail,
I think you made a great point. If Kiler Williams
does fail his first season, let's say he has a
Bryce Young season, people won't be so down on him
like they are Bryce Young because Bryce Young didn't have
the fan fair coming in, like there was a who's
going number one?

Speaker 1 (38:40):
We don't know blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Chicago had it, you know, locked and stocked for the
better part of since they traded for the pig last year.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yeah, exactly. The didn't do what they wanted.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
So everybody's gonna believe that Caleb Williams will bounce back
if he has a bad season. So I just I
love that take on it. I'm going one at six man.
This is tight end premium. I don't even want to
beat around brook the bush. I'm going with the best
tight end prospect to come in the league, and god
knows how long I gotta go with bron Bowers.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
I mean, like this rip to me, there's really no other.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Call because not only am I getting a bump for
tight end, but I think I have a I think
I have a generational prospect, and if I can get
a generational prospect at the tight end position, I have
an advantage moving forward for the next ten to fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
How much more because I'll say this if my opinion
on Brock Bauers being drafted in the first round will
chang because I'm out on tight ends being drafted in
the first round of rookie drafts for the most Like
I love Duntin Kincaide this season. I said don't draft
him last year where he was being drafted, because I
was like, he's not going to do much his rookie season.
It just takes tight ends longer to develop. I probably

(39:54):
didn't age well all things considered, because by next year
he's ready to go. But the question I want to
ask is my opinion will change if Davante Adams gets
traded to the Jets, because if he's on the Raiders
right now, I just don't see the path for Brock
Bowers on the Raiders anytime soon. So Thomas, like, I
can you speak to that at all? Like, Okay, he's

(40:15):
a rookie tight end on a team that's not going
to pass a whole lot are going to have. Does
anyone expect the Raiders to be a top half in
terms of overall offense, I certainly don't. I think they're
going to run the ball win with defense. So if
Davante Adams gets traded, how much higher would you take him, Thomas.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Oh my god, I mean then we talking top two
to three picks. I mean, if DeVante Adams got traded.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
But I honestly don't think. I don't think it will matter.
I have no worries about brock Booers.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Brock Bois came to college eighteen years old, demanding targets
from a very very good college.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
I think we all agree with that. Elector four years.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Pretty odden that right, So they need a driving school there.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
But other than that, Jamaine Burton was there. I mean,
they had what they had. Mitchell Adie, Mitchell was there
for a while.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Like there's been a lot of the talent that he
kept that Bay from getting targets.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Now he's going to the Raiders. Now, I know they
don't throw very often. They don't, that's the philosophy.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
And I know Devanta Adams is gonna demand his target
ship because he's one of the best of this generation.
The receivers of this generation if not the best. But
I do believe brock.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Bauers is too good to not be utilized.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
I don't believe that once he hits the field and
he's dominant against these smaller safeties, are slower linebackers, he's
not gonna demand the second, at least the second most
targets on the team.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
And we also don't know when Devinta Adams is gonna
actually like start coming down from that peak, and it
could be this year. We just don't know.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
So I think brock Bowers is almost you know, I
almost think he's like a guaranteed, you know, tight end
one for the ten next ten to fifteen years, no
matter what.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Maybe in value, I don't see it in your one.
The path is murky to me. That's that's why I'm
out of him, But I respect that, Dylan, the ball
is in your court. You're at the one oh seven.
We're halfway through this first round rookie mock Draft, only
doing one round, but we're focusing on the names that
matter to most of these people. What are you doing here?

Speaker 1 (42:19):
What do you yeah?

Speaker 4 (42:20):
This This is a very tough pick for me. One
oh seven I'm trying to think, like if this was
just a straight up draft, no trades were picked, and
you're picking at the one oh seven, you're a middling team.
You need something that's probably gonna set you over the top.
I'm assuming you have decent quarterbacks. If I'm drafting at
the one oh seven in a super flex league, right here,

(42:43):
I'm probably taking.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Man.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
This is tough.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
I know exactly. I know exactly, this is tough. I
know what I want to take the super flex value.
It's the because this is the question. There's some quarterbacks
that are still in icing here, and then there's a
couple of receivers whose rankings haven't changed since day one
for me, but they've been reaffirmed by training camp.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
I say, exactly, you know I'm gonna I'm gonna do
this because of I don't want you to be able
to take him. I'm taking Keon Coleman here, I'm taking
I love Keon Coleman, and I think, like I said,
at the one oh seven, you're a middling team, probably
needs something to take you over the edge. I'm assuming,
like I said, you have decent quarterback play, so you
need that wide receiver. To me, Keon Coleman is the

(43:29):
one B in Buffalo.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
I do think k will be the one A.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Don't get me wrong, but I mean, you see out
of camp all of the highlights. I know you're you're, you're,
you got your palm to your face right.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Now, all of these stell this is a story time.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
If you're about to take credit for Keon Coleman high no, no, no, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
I'm complaining about the fact. Why do I invite you
to things? I found this orphan league. I was like,
I'm gonna do this. I need another I'll invite Dylan
into it. We're both in rebuild mode, and so I
had I traded for draft picks. There's no way Dylan's
gonna blow up his team and the guy I was
targeting in this league, I was gonna get this. I
was gonna get a player. I'm getting Keon Coleman. No worries,
no problem, traded back into the first was excited to

(44:14):
be in this league so I could have shares with
Keon Coleman. I invite Dylan in on the day of
the draft. He jumps right in front of me and
takes Keon Coleman. He ruins and here I'm doing it
and you're doing You're doing the show. It's it's I
I have zero shares of Keon Coleman in any dynasty
league I'm in. I only have been able to get
him in Best Ball and I'm sick about it. I

(44:35):
hate it and I'm mad at you.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Great.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
I mean, the reality is is man like, there's targets
that need to be had, and Josh Allen's going to
throw the ball and Keon Coleman's going to be on
the receiving end of a lot of those passes, and
so of the big of all of the wide receivers.
You know, it's a load to wide receiver class to me,
Keon Coleman, as it reflects, here is the wide receiver
three behind Neighbors and Harrison. I think he's gonna have

(44:59):
the most opportunity to produce. And if you're a middling
team at the one of six, one of seven, one
o eight, Keon Coleman's there, you absolutely take Keon Coleman
like it's a no brainer. He's a He's someone that
you can add to your arsenal wide receivers if you
have solid quarterbacks, even if you don't have solid quarterbacks.
I'm not taking JJ McCarthy here at the one of
seven because he's not going to set you over this year.
And that's just the reality of it. So and Keon

(45:21):
Coleman in the first year or two is going to
be much more of a safer wide receiver than Roma Doonsay.
I love Romadoonsay. You can say he's more talented, but
Keon Coleman in the Bills offense is going to offer
you a much safer floor.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Well, I mean, let me ask let me ask you
this real quick humor, Josh, if you ad six and
you were to choose between you had the choice of
Rock Bowers or Keon Coleman, who are.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
You taking Coleman?

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Y'all think Coleman is going to outproduce Bowers.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Y'all think yeah, even in a tight end premium league.
We have said this is one of the few takes
Dylan and I have always been on the same page
about since day one. He is the why receiver three
of this class. And that was after he ran a
four to seven at the combine and people buried him.
We were like, if he goes to a good situation,
this guy he was having a breakout year with Jordan

(46:10):
Travis at FSU, and then Jordan Travis gets injured and
it's like, ah, crap, and that team was really good
in one with defense, key On coleman Is was one
of the best players, if not the best player, on
one of the best teams in college football. Makes ungodly
catches whenever he wants, plays with extreme confidence. He's down
to earth and you're seeing it in camp already. By

(46:31):
the way, he's connected to the second most vacated targets
of any offense in the league, and it happens to
be one of the best with one of the greatest
fantasy producing quarterbacks in the league right now. It's talent
meeting opportunity.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
I've always said that.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
So his courage Samuel Buzz, then.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
No, Chris will get his. He'll get his.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
He'll get his.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
He is getting buzz.

Speaker 5 (46:51):
We'll get his, though, because Josh Allen. Here's the thing.
If you pay attention to the Bills offense.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Even with Stefon Diggs getting his, even with Dawson Knox
when he was healthy getting you know he was relevant
for fantasy. There was always opportunities. I want to say,
there's always opportunity in the slot. Josh Allen will feed
the slot. Whether it was Cole Beasley, Isaiah McKenzie, everyone
had their opportunities in that slot. Curtis Samuel is going
to be the best slot that he's played with, so

(47:17):
he's gonna get his as well.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Put some respect on them.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Yeah, one percent. I mean they're gonna throw the ball. Well, actually,
Joe Brady, I don't know they're gonna throw the ball
as much. But last thing on Keon Coleman and Josh,
you're this is gonna hurt you. To me, Keon Coleman
is a much more polished wide receiver and much more
better wide receiver, but similar wide receiver to George Pickens,
where they play a similar game with contested catches, but

(47:43):
Keon Coleman can actually run routes and separate.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Now, yeah, George, George, I love them both. I love
them both. Don't make me choose. To my guys, George
Pickens runs a four to four to seven. I mean,
George Pickens is a deep threat.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
And listen, if one thing this year has taught us
is there is track speed and testing speed, and then
there's game speed. Oh, I've seen the different.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
I've seen pickings game speed. He's taken a slant to
the house two or three times to save my parlay games.
And he did it in fantasy playoffs last year.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
We'll see, We'll see.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Wow, We've got to get away from that becoming anyway.
But no, I love Keon Coleman. I love the pick there.
I'm gonna I'm gonna go quickly here at the one
to ozho was it the one eight for me? JJ
McCarthy fallen this far? This isn't about where he went
in most superflex drafts. I think sam Donold starts the year.
I think, really this is I'm not drafting JJ McCarthy.

(48:34):
I'm drafting Justin Jefferson and Kevin O'Connell and the future
connected to those two guys. I think JJ McCarthy is
a good enough QB. It's kind of like a Jared
Goff situation. JJ McCarthy is on a different offense in
a different situation, eh whatever. Jared Goff has resurrected his
career and his fantasy value being corrected connected to the
right coach, the right coordinator, and the right weapons at

(48:54):
the right time. And I think that's just the start
of the career for JJ McCarthy, I think in super
flex leagues even if he was, I think he's actually
perfect as your third quarterback. And if you're at the
one of eight, that's what he would be. So I
think it's a great value. I could make an argument
for Drake May's upside because I really do believe the
more I look into that guy's game, Drake May is
he has the potential in my mind to be special

(49:15):
the way he processes the game and all that. But
that being said, I'm gonna take the safe bet of
he's and he's having a good camp. I love the
head coach, Justin Jefferson, just got paid. He's gonna be
there a long time. It's gonna be hard to be
a bad quarterback with the best wide receiver in the
NFL for years to come connected to you, so really easy,
JJ McCarthy, Thomas were back to you.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Yep, this makes it real easy for me. Now I'm
going to roam with Doonze.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
You know, if you're at the one on nine and
hopefully you got a good squad and you don't have
to rely on wrong this year, because I think you're
gonna get like middling wide receiver three numbers because I
mean he got two studs in front of him, he
got col cole commit DeAndre Swift catching out of the backfield.
It's not going to be the prettiest first season, but

(50:02):
you're gonna get enough signs of an alpha that you're
gonna be confident moving forward. When Keenan Allen his contract
is up, I think DJ Moore, who just got paid,
I still think it's gonna be a one to in.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
One B situation.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
I think Rome is that talented where he's not, He's
gonna be able to get his It might be the
worst case scenario. You might see a Jamar Chase t
Higgins split or something like that, but that's the worst
case scenario in my opinion. Uh And I just think
like the talent will win out at some point. But
the first year, if you and win now mode, I

(50:37):
hope he's a bench asset as opposed to the starter.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
I think that's well said.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
I was gonna say too, just just to add on
to that. Roalmandunze here at the one on nine, I mean,
that's cold for someone that is in the one on
nine position, like like you mentioned, like you've you were
in the playoffs, you lost obviously didn't make it to
the ship, but at the one nine, like, that's a
player that you don't need to produce right away. You
can kind of stash them and then they'll help propel

(51:07):
you over the top whenever the opportunity comes. And like
you said, I think Keenan Allen's gone after this year,
and then it definitely becomes the Odoonza More show, and
I think it's gonna be one A, one B for
sure if it's contingent on Caleb's success as well.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, I'm gonna save some of my commentary that i'll
you know, spoiler alert for my next pick I would
have taken I think I'll have a chance to draft him,
but I would take another player. I had Odoonsa as
my wide receiver for going into rookie drafts when we
did in like in April, or for me like in
May and whatnot. Odoonsea felt a little bit further for

(51:44):
me because DJ Moore getting paid says he may he
may be going through what Brandon Ayuk is going through
right now, where Deebo Samuel is a fine NFL Q
you know, wide receiver, one of the best very different
than what Ayuke does. Clearly, Ayuke is one of the
best in the NFL, like top twelve I would say
is pure receivers. Yeah, but he's having a hard time

(52:04):
getting a contract, getting a guaranteed target share worked out,
and it's like, do we move on from him? The
path to being in Alpha the upside is really capped
with DJ Moore being their long term I know he
could be the you know it could be one, A,
one B, but there is going to be a one.
And then now you're counting on Kleb Williams and the
Bears to somehow be a top offense in the NFL.

(52:25):
We still have the Eberflus issue. So Donesay's actually moved
back for me through no fault of his own of
what he's doing on the field. I just don't see
a path like I don't see a path where he's
not at least a wide receiver three for his entire career.
But we're talking, we're talking. I think you mentioned T Higgins.
I think that's the ceiling right now. I don't see
a world unless Kayleb Williams is truly truly special where

(52:46):
he's higher than a wide receiver fifteen on any season
unless DJ Moore gets injured.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
I think that has to do more of a pass
volume than actual Like the difference in talent from DJ
Moore to Romadoze.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
That's really you know for sure, that's what you're saying
Roma Dunsay's talent. You put Roma Dunsa on the Giants
and Neighbors on the Bears. I'm higher on on Neighbors,
as I'm saying he top twelve. Dunsa is a guy, dude.
He just went to the worst situation and with more
getting paid, there's always going to be competition for targets.
You're never gonna Malik Neighbors is gonna have almost a

(53:19):
forty percent target chair. I probab He's gonna have a
thirty something percent target share his rookie year. That's insane.
Rome will be lucky to get twenty his rookie year,
probably lucky to get eighteen his rookie year, and then
moving forward.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
You know that's that's fair. That's fair.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
But if I mean, I think what you got a
bank on, you got a bank on the talent, number one,
And what I would do is bank on the talent.
But I'm also banking on the fact that Caleb Williams
can be efficient even if he has limited targets we're
talking about, and Romadoonza has the body to be in
red zone threats.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
So even if he does have like a T.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Higgins type statistical season, you might see maybe like three
or four more touchdown passes.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
And that's what I but hope for.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
I'm just targeting Roma Dunes. Mark my words, this sounds
crazy like because it's so far out. In two and
a half to three years, Roma Dunes will be in
a lot of my teams because I'm trusting the second contract.
I'm trusting the second location. He's got the type of
game where he could last in the NFL a long time.
I'd be very interested. Just like we've talked about with Ayuk.
If Iuk goes elsewhere, are you still going to be

(54:22):
a guy? We trust it. But a Yuk is kind
of capped, and even for fantasy has capped. He's never
going to be a top ten, uh, you know, depending
on scoring format. Guy, if Debo and George Kittle and McCaffrey,
you are healthy, the highest he's ever finished up, believe
he's twelve or thirteen.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
Yeah, So I actually agree with that, And I think
that's a really really good comp is the Brandon Ayuke situation,
not necessarily playing styles, but the situation more so. And
I think that's what you're You're hoping that Roma Dune
day when Keenan Allen's gone can be Brandon and I
I mean we're talking about Brandon and Ayk a guy
that had some thirteen hundred receptions with thirteen hundred yards, Like, yeah,

(54:57):
that's just uber efficiency, Like that's what you want out
of Ramadun say you're hoping you can get out of
ramat situation.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
I mean, when you have azeber Worthy who has multiple
receivers that will give him competition for targets even in
the high volume offense, you Brian Thomas Jr. Has got
to deal with Christian Kirk, Evan ingram Uh, you know,
Gabe Davis for the near future.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Lam McConkie.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
We just talked about the Chargers and their low volume
and how they might have problems. I mean, I don't
see where even though even though you guys are both
right about the ceiling, I do believe that ceiling, but
I think the floor is as stable as you're going
to get from here on out.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
That's my argument for that's a great that's a great
point to finish wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
To no matter what in the future and on nothing,
you're gonna get years of wide receiver to production.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Well, I think, I think, I think.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
Is a great. Yeah, he's the one on nine.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
There's no there's no reason why remagendation slip past one
or nine. I'm being really honest. Yeah, that's I mean,
that's the prime pick there, Dylan. Yep, it's balls in
your court here, man.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
To me, at this point, you're the one ten. You're
building your team again. I'm going for the highest upside
and what I would consider the BPA best player available
to me, that's Xavier Worthy best based off of his
you So.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
If you have stopped taking my freaking picks.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
At this point, I know earlier on back in May,
people were taking Latin McConkey here, Brian Thomas Junior, I
mean you had you had Xavier Legett sometimes going like
you had these guys going or Jordan or Jonathan Brooks.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
You had him going here.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
There's no need for that.

Speaker 5 (56:38):
To me, Xavier Worthy is.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Plugged into the best offense in the NFL with the
best quarterback in the NFL, especially the best quarterback that's
gonna find you downfield after he scrambles and the defense
can't find out where he is, they're gonna lose Xavier
Worthy in the secondary. Xavier Worthy, to me, is going
to be the best option, the best number two that
Patrick Mahm has had since Tyreek Hill left. He's better

(57:00):
than Hollywood Brown. He can learn from Hollywood Brown, get
game from Hollywood Brown. But if you go back and
look at the tape from Xavier Worthy's college film, you
see he's a phenomenal wide receiver. He was always a
top one or two wide receiver coming into this draft.
Roma Dooms they made the push this last college football season,
but before that, it was Xavier Worthy, it was Marvin

(57:21):
Harrison junior. Those guys were at the top of this class.
And so Xavier Worthy has fallen down a little bit.
I get he's small, the dude has phenomenal speed. The
opportunity is there, the upside is there, and if you're
dropping at the one ten, you that's what you're looking
for on your team. At this point, He's probably going
to be a flex that has I mean wide receiver
one upside weekly steal.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Yeah, yeah, no, Thomas, I don't know if you want
to call him at first, because I have a lot
to say about Xavier Worthy and just to agree with
your pick, Dol, I'll wrap up into mind.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
I yeah, I'll be quick that you could give your
opinion of it. But like I think Xavier Worthy is
an absolute steal right here. I agree with everything Dylan said.
I I see a really good receiver. I see a
very slight receiver. But we saw Tank Dell do it. Man, Like,
now we're not even thinking about that, Like, get that
out of People need to get that out of their head.

(58:12):
Just because somebody is small doesn't mean they can't play
the wide receiver position.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
It's a new day, it's a new NFL.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Let's go, Dylan, you're there's I mean, I think Exaber
worthies at least five to seven.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
Yeah, I think my days are gone.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Just kidding, Dylan is.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
No everything man like, that's that's just a steal in
in the cartel on one of the leagues that we're in.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
I got him at two o two.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Oh man, dude, And at the time I felt I
felt confident that that was a mistake. He has been
the biggest mover in the from a training camp perspective,
at least in wide receivers for me, because one Patrick
Mahomes has a chip on his shoulder about how he
was not as productive last year and still in the
Super Bowl. He talked about in interviews. Yeah, I didn't

(58:59):
hit any of my deep passes last year, and that's
something I'm gonna be hitting again this year. You know,
get back up to fifty touchdowns. He's just casually saying,
get back up to fifty touchdowns. I don't think like
if Caleb Williams, you know, going back to the Roman
Dunees take his line in Vegas has set at twenty
three and a half touchdowns on the season. You give
Roma Dunes a ten percent of his touchdowns. You give
Roma Dunes a fifteen percent of touchdowns. We're talking about

(59:19):
three and four touchdowns, you know, and that's a good number.
That's a good percentage of the offense. Right for a
first year player. You give Xavier Worthy fifteen percent of
fifty touchdowns, it's double that. We're talking about seven touchdowns, right,
We're talking about thousand yards seven touch Like, it's crazy
what he can be connected to. The Other thing is
this sounds arbitrary, but Markois Valdez Scantling may not even
make the roster in Buffalo. I don't think we realize

(59:41):
how bad the deep threats for Mahomes were last year,
you get. I think we forget how good he was
with Tyreek Kilby and Mahomes in general has been a
value in most fantasy formats right now because you know
it's like, oh, well, they won the Super Bowl, like
they did it with less offense. He was quarterback nine
Mahomes top three guy like year in year out for years,

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and no, he doesn't have the rushing upside of Josh Allen,
but he's a Hall of Famer. He's the best of
this generation. Camp Xavier Worthy has looked absolutely fantastic. Unlike
Kadarius Tony knows how to hang on to the ball,
has blazing speed to get deep. The only thing I
will say, there's a great clip of him dealing with
the press and just getting knocked around like a child.
It was awesome to see. So you're definitely capped I

(01:00:26):
think on Xavier Worthy of like being a traditional one,
but the weekly upside you could have with Xavier Worthy,
you don't need him to be He could be a
wide receiver two year in and year out on eighty
you know, sixty to eighty catches every single year. Yeah,
and the average catch being like, yeah, I was twenty
five and a half yards per catch. And then also
Andy Reid's creative jet sweeps and tunnel screens, things like that.

(01:00:48):
Someone with his game breaking speed connected to what's going
to be one of the best offenses in the NFL.
He's my wide receiver for I would take him above
a dune's ay, just because I want to be a
piece of that offense. So I love the pick there, Dylan.
I will settle for Lad McConkie at the one eleven,
who I still love despite justin Herbert's injury. I think
he's a floor player. I was tempted to go Trey

(01:01:09):
Benson here, but I think I still really love Lad mcconkee.
He has looked good in camp, and if Herbert had
stayed healthy, I still would have been very, very high
on him. So Thomas, I seed the floor after just
hyping up Dylan's pick and barely talking about Lad McConkie,
who's a solid wide receiver.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
You wanted, you wanted to get that over with, so
quick bro I said, I'm gonna take a lad with Honkey.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
This is why.

Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
Okay, next up, Thomas, You're going go Aheadah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Well and and well that's three out. Like I just
talked about Xavier with you, Like Lad McConkey is a
great pick. You're not gonna be upset with Lab mcconky.
Is he gonna win you the league this year? No,
full stop. He is the one for the Chargers. There's
long term value there. You're getting into a tier right
now where it's called your shot. The guys who seemed
like my guys at this time last like the Ricky

(01:01:55):
Piersoll's who I like. Ricky Piers is not a good camp.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
I'm out of can't separate a camp. It's a problem.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
But you like those guys on surprise he didn't take
him here?

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Well, no, I'm not not. I like Micky yours all.
I still think there's hope there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Digs. Can we get in one episode?

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Listen, Dylan, Dylan's gonna regret it this season. It's episode
my guys. Episode. One of my guys is George Pickens.
I'm gonna have to have other my guys than that,
because that's all twelve season incoming.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
Here's what I'll say about Ladd McConkie again, adding more
context to the draft. Assuming that you're drafting at the
one eleven and that's your actual pick, Lad McConkie is
the right pick there. I mean, if you look at
who else is on the board here, Ladd McConkie still
presents enough upside in an offense where he has the
opportunity to be the one. Do I think he will be?
I don't know, but he still has that opportunity attached

(01:02:49):
to a quarterback who we do think is still a
good quarterback.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
The offense.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
We don't know what it's going to look like, but
I mean, if you're at the one eleven, he's likely
coming off the bench going to be a term play.
He's a long term play who you can plug into
your flex, similar to Xavier Worthy. But to me, Lad
McConkey is the pick there, So I don't I don't
think you're I think that's a great pick.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
I think it's a solid pick right there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
It was between that and Trey Benson. But receivers in
super flex and that you just need to hang on
to him in value more. Thomas blows us out the
one twelve, what do we go?

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
This is so, this is tough.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
This is tough because I see my LSU guy on
the board and my heart, my heart belongs in Ben Ruge,
you know what I'm saying. So I love that, would
really really like to pick him, but I can't ignore
that Jonathan Brooks hasn't been picked. I look, there's so
much this is crazy. There's so much going against this kid.

(01:03:44):
He's he's in Carolina coming off the ACL you know,
he's you know, he's obviously a rookie. Like there's so
many things that make you wonder if he will be
the player that is worth the twelve pick, And especially
with running backs, you always worry about them not just

(01:04:06):
working out. Right, I think this is the safest pick
right here. So I'm gonna go with Jonathan Brooks because
I do believe in the talent. I love I love
his college state. He can He's definitely a three down back,
which we don't see very often, but he is for
sure three on back. I got great hands, all that,

(01:04:27):
So it's gonna be hard to get him off the field.
And in Carolina they need some kind of stability for
Bryce Young. That's the biggest problem. Bryce Young has a
lot of young receivers and old receivers got nothing like
he got Deontay Johnson. But we haven't seen Deontay Johnson really.
We've seen him get a lot of targets, but he
hasn't really had a lot of production. Now granted that

(01:04:48):
was with bad quarterbacks, but we still are rolling the
dice when it comes to Carolina and in they passing game.
So I'm sure that they want to do and what
Canalist wants to do is established a solid run game
and let Bryce Young have a lot of dump offs
because that's where he did a lot of that Alabama,
and let him be in be the kind of quarterback

(01:05:10):
that doesn't have to take the deep ball all the
time and can just dump it down, dump it down,
matriculate the ball down the field. So I think Jonathan
Brooks has a real chance to be one of those
running backs who can get you a thousand yards rushing
and six hundred yards receiving, seven hundreds seed and gets
you a lot of scrimmage yards. And I don't see,

(01:05:32):
I don't I'm not afraid of Miles Sanders and I'm
not afraid of you behoof it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
So those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
No one's afraid of Miles Sanders anymore. You was, I
think a decent he reaped. I like you, but for
the first like three weeks and then trade him to
someone's like I need a running back because it'll happen.
But I like that. I mean you said something though,
he'll be hard to get off the field. Do you
have any concern with him getting on the field because
it looks like he's not going to start the season
still recovering from attorney swill at the end of year.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Yeah, I'm if I'm in win now mode, this is
a tough pick.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
But if I'm building for the future, I'm okay with it,
because from I can only go with the doctor say,
and everybody says that he's he's recovered well from it.
He's right on schedule. He'll be back by week three
or four. They'll ease him in slowly. This is more
of a long term play because I don't think he'll
have a great rookie season. Maybe in the second half
of the season you might see some some you know,

(01:06:27):
some games where he has over one hundred yards from scrimmage,
but I don't think that's going to be the norm.
In his rookie season. So I would say, if you're
gonna pick Jonathan Brooks, just make sure you're.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
In it for the long haul. And I think he's
worth It's one and.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
He's twenty one, well, said Dylan any thoughts.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
I thought we were gonna get out of the first
round without taking a running back, and I thought that
was gonna be fine. I just I don't know how
I feel about Jonathan Brooks. I mean, coming off the
ACL tear and injury aside, I personally was not wild
by his film. Didn't see anything that was like, man,
that is a very very good running back. That is different.

(01:07:04):
He does something different and better and special than anyone else.
Cuba Hubbard has better college film than Jonathan Brooks has,
and so it's it's different. I don't know how if
I trust the offense my personal pick here, I mean
not to just bash your pick.

Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
Thomas pick suck Yeah a d No.

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
If I had to pick here, I would have probably
gone because, again, adding context, you're coming off a championship.
If you're picking from the one twelve, I would have
gone someone like either Michael Pennocks Junior, who I love
and you can you can wait On or Jalen Polk.
I like Jalen Polk more than I like Jonathan Brooks
here just because of the upside.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Go ahead, Thomas real.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Quick, h No, I was going to say, I don't
mind that the Pinnicks pinis is sneakily a really good
pick right here. Like I was, I was thinking about
quarterback as well. But the problem who'd you say your.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Second guy was?

Speaker 5 (01:07:59):
Again, Jaleno Jalen Polk.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
The problem with Jaialen Polk is there's a lot of
people that are new to New England right now. There's
a lot of a lot of like changing the quarterbacks.
You got new running backs in the backfield, you got
new offensive linemen, you got new receivers. I don't know
how that's gonna play out. I know they drafted Jonathan
Brooks with this second overall pick, so I think I'm

(01:08:21):
playing it a little.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Close to the chess when I pick him, because I
know that the plan is to have him be that guy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
But from what I read from the Bee reporters about
Jaalen Polk, I'm I'm nervous Javon Bik is the number one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
I mean, I don't know if I'm drafted a number
two receiver right there. I'm a little nervous.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
I want to just bring this up. I mean, there's
we could argue about a lot of players, and this
is really where arguments get heated around the one eleven
round one twelve, because you get into the area even
at this point in the year when we have training camp,
we have some injuries, we have things that you know,
we have a better idea of how these offenses these
guys are drafted into are gonna function, and there's still

(01:09:00):
not clarity. It's a my guy kind of spot. And
so if you're high on Jonathan Brooks at the one twelve,
take Jonathan Brooks. Me here, the pick would have been
Trey Benson. But I just want to bring up like
two three months ago, Brian Thomas still being on the
board would have been outregious, you know what I mean.
And there's some other names that we didn't even talk about.
You know, Xavier Laguette prior to this injury, I think

(01:09:22):
would have been interesting here because he's been banged up
for Carolina. Ad Ni Mitchell and you know, think about
where ad Ni Mitchell was supposed to go in the
NFL draft, Like so much has changed, and not a
single down of NFL football, real NFL football, regular season
football has been played. So it's just good to remember
that if it could change that much in the last

(01:09:43):
three months, certainly when games are played a lot more
can change as well. So that's why you got to
stay fluid, and that's why the show will be with
you all throughout the NFL season, giving you all the
moves you need to make as the market for each
of these players has changed. Guys, it has been an
awesome episode. We have already spent so much time on this.
We are gonna call it a night. I'm gonna go
try to catch up on some z's and wake up

(01:10:03):
early to watch some Olympic probably ping pong to pass
the time four football gets here. Hey, it was it
was electric when I last saw it. There was the
Swedish guy on the Chinese if they are they are
athletes people, they're athletes people. They're more of athletes than
we are general managers. But we're not too far off
in real life. Yeah wait, you don't you think we're

(01:10:25):
far off from actual NFL managers?

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
You said, Oh okay, no, sorry, yeah, I agree, we are.
We are actually general managered.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
I agree, we think we are. Dude, you give me
the county right now. I would one hundred percent do
it better than Jerry.

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
You know, question, I think most people would.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Being an owner, no shot, Jerry best owner of all
time GM. No, I think I could.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
I think I could.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
Yeah, you could pluck him off his couch playing Madden.
And he's probably a better general manager than Jarry Jones
is right now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
No problem, that's probably fact. Well, it wouldn't be a
dynastic Shange episode without me and Dylan arguing about George
Pickens and us also constantly argue, you know, complaining about
Jerry Jones as a gym uh better with your team
some of the players that are that are talented until
until next time this is specified name. We will see
you guys next week, Okay,

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