October 4, 2023 • 31 mins
Oran Juice Jones had a hit song ‘bout a hundred years ago called “Walking in the rain”..and it still stands now. Just a talk with a beautiful humble artist about the craft. We laughed a lot.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
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Saus that everybody you know what they need shine.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I called Michael fuck.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
To everybody to call Michael taush everybody Michael.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Far say my god, everybody, everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
You call.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Ha ha ha oh yeah, your boy is back. Yes, sir,
it's Michael Goy, world famous, world renown, and we have
to talk to somebody because it's called Michael talked to everybody.
You know, we are celebrating fifty years of hip hop
and you know, just black music period, it's phenomenal. It's
always I remember when hip hop came out because I'm
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old like that and I remember when hip hop first
came out and people shunned and oh, that's voodoo music,
that's devil music. All this so craziness. And now you
can't hear a commercial without hip hop. You can't listen
to a movie or TV show without hip hop. It
is a basic foundation of most of the music in
this country, you know. And so we are celebrating fifty
(01:31):
years of that. But I celebrate fifty years of black music,
or all of black music. And today we have one
of the R and B legends, Orange Juice Jones, to
hear what it's day, Orange Juice j Jones having how
you feel?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
King?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Good to see you, man.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I'm said for a squats, great to be here, Mike,
call you. Thank you so much for having me. Brother.
Guess sir, you look good.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
They can't see you, but you look good. You still
look young. Their things, you know, you know it's a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
You know they gonna crack baby. You know how to go.
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Hey, well, look before you tell us who you are
and where you're from, let me remind the people of
your your big hit Walking in the Rain. I love
that Walking in the rain. Is that the exact name
of it is so walking in the rain. You know,
he's singing this song, y'all, and he saw his woman
walking in the rain with somebody else, not me. I
thought you was gonna stab him, you, especially when you
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came out that dark doorway. Remember they walked back and
you came out the dark door. He had your long
trench go. I said, oh, somebody going down now. But
all you did at the end is you just just
gave a tongue lashing. You just you just verbally let
her know how you felt about it, and that that
was the end. See, you couldn't even you couldn't even
play that video today. If somebody didn't get stabbed or shot,
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ain't nobody canna believe that. But anyway, come fooling with you.
It was a good love piece. A lot of people
remember it. I saw you walking in the rain with
another man, and so that's how people would know you
by that piece, walk in the ring. Tell me how
was it for you to shoot that?
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Well?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You know, my first impus was to run the bone
and do a rambow.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
We did, you know what it was?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I got the opportunity. Russell Simmons was a different than
mine and gave me the opportunity something together, and we
were the record was actually finished. You know, I thought
the concept being as us as universal as infidelity is universal.
Thing you did, and the outcome is usually the same,
you know.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Is universally That's true. That's true.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
And the concept, you know, a beat up I'm gonna
set outcome is usually the same. You know, we're all
it's a violent ending, you know somewhere.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Wow, So I wanted to do something, make it a
little more more slickid than that, a little cooler than that.
You did, what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
When that came out, it was a big hit, winn it.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It was great for a long time.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, the lights one for a long time. So you've
been music, been doing a lot of music since then, right.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Since then, I've been focusing on on the just some
some music, commercials mostly. I got involved with commercials a
little while, you know, and I find that to be
very fulfilling. It was very quick, very fast, and and uh,
my involvement with music was never meant really meant to
last that long. I never really wanted to be a musician,
you know, I didn't. I didn't So what so what
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did you want to be a doctor? I was studying.
I was studying biology. Was gonna be pretty mad.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
So what made you change your mind? Change your course?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Curtis Bow, I was in I was in actually money ultimately,
you know, because agreed, you know, you know just I mean,
it's there's a bunch of things. Man. He came to
he came to I was in Texas Southern University. He
came down there to do his show, and what's going back?
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You know. I went to the show to hang out
with him. He said, man, listen, come on back to
New York. I got this music thing going on. It's amazing.
Don't believe you know, I said, Okay, I came back
and I wrote a song for him, old hip hop
song called day Dreaming, right, oh, the first song that
the rapper ever really ever sang. He was the first
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rapper ever sang day dream this blow the first rap
up that that's real, The first rapper who ever sang
a song Curtis Bow called is called a song called
day Dreaming.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Okay, So that made you realize that you can sing?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
That's right. Made a lot of money for him, and
then we got to tick. It didn't make a lot
of money for.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Me, Damn. That's not good.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
That's not all you know a lot of so, so
what happened was I was I was kind of upset
about that. So and then Russell was coming. He said,
MAYM be upset. Listen. I got a little label called
Depth Jam. You know, it's not gonna be a lot
of money, but it's been a cool situation be involved with.
Come on, get on board with that, you know. And
then I just fell inne and one thing snowballed into
another and then the result was was the ring.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
But it threw you off your course because you're supposed
to be doctor ran juice joan emergency please.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
That was my first love. Yes, absolutely, I really thought
I could pull it off. You know, I thought, I thought,
you know, so that's more, that's more less a calling,
you know, medicine. So and I really thought I could
have pulled it off.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
But isn't music calling?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Its somewhat It depends on your perspective, but it's not
your calling, not that particular particular time.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
No, So what are you doing today? Music?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I taken. I've kept it pimping. You know, I'm pimping
from you know, I m p from power. In my perspective,
you know I've kept it, you know, taking what I uh,
I've evolved musically. I would like to think, you know,
I've written my first play. I'm involved play. Now we
actually do the reenactment of Walking in the Ring. I'm
involved in the play with a young cat Rick watching
at the Philadelphia and we're doing what I've been doing
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it for the last four months.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Hey, what's the name of that play?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Walking in the Ring?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Come yeah, and it's it's Jump It was jump starting
in Philadelphia on October first.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Okay, but does she get a swooped in the play
at least? Or no? You just the girl.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I can't be pimping, man, I can't be you still
just in.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
It with a little conversation.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I don't think that was the more civilized thing to do.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
That's but do you really want to be civilized when
you see your woman walking in the ring with another
more person?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I think we have to be I think, I think,
I think we I think and I think overall black people,
I think we are generally. I don't think there's violent
as we portrayed to be. I don't think we we
jumped to you.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
As easily as is that. I think, But I think,
given you know, the opportunity to to have any I
don't think we have any examples of that. I think
we have too many examples that we can stem from,
you know that that illustrate that that that type of attitude,
that type of.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
We just saw a brother get in trouble like last
year something for slapping this woman in the elevator and
snatching around and stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
He's on the football team, and you know, I you know,
I don't understand that man, you know, because I've never
really you know, it's it's not that wanna. I've just
never I've always been chosen, you know what I'm saying.
I've never been Everybody had to go out there and
hunting for mine. You did what I'm saying, So everyone,
everyone I've ever been involved with, always act accordingly. So
I don't know what it means to put my hands
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on a woman.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Really, I don't know, though I'm now I'm joking about
that part. We're talking about doing music. You want to
make the ship funny, but no, I don't advocate doing that.
I don't ask I don't advocate that ship at all.
I don't put my mama wouldn't go for that. I
would never put my hands on a woman unless I
was protecting myself. You know, even then, I wouldn't. I
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wouldn't hit her, but I choked the ship. I'm sorry,
what were you saying on that topic, which is never
a funny topic. We will never ever abuse women or
ever joke about.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Or encourage that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
That is't what we're talking about, but your play. I
don't think that's what the record was about. I think
the record was about a lady cheating on a man
who really loved her and he's letting him, letting her
know how mad he is about being betrayed.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Eight like that.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I'm just saying, in modern days like now, it ain't
gonna be no conversation, she's gonna get choked, somebody gonna
slap her, the wig gonna fly across the room.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
It's I mean, it's just saying, as we go, what
year was that? What year was What year was that
that you did that?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
What was eighty six?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Man, that's the year I started, was eighty six, So
we're talking thirty two years something like that. I didn't
do the math, y'all, So don't be righting in talking
about it thirty seven thirty two. I don't know. I'm
taking a shot in the dark here.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
That's great, yeah, baby, you know, a lot of cats
ain't on inside of the grass no more.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
That's right. We're still here, man, Just being here so wonderful.
That's what you do with it. See, that's on you.
What you do with that you still here, which give
you opportunity to do anything and everything you've ever thought
you want to do it. It's not too late to
be in the legal profession, sir. You know. I know
that the first leg of your life was the music,
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but you can still slid over into the Oh you
want to be medical? You said a doctor. Oh yeah,
you could probably still be a doctor. But boy, that's
a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Of words, you know. That's I think that that has
the season, as in all things, you know, and I
unfortunately I think that season's passed. I'm absolutely sure of it.
But I really hope.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
That you're that you're wrong. I just hope, I hope
that you're I'm.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Listen, it's not it anywhere you're from. It's where you're
at you I'm really say.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
But also it's not what you're looking at is what
you see. And so what I was trying to say is, yes,
if you're just sad that you wanted to do medicine,
then your window of opportunity is not gone. It depends
on how you choose to look at that.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
It's a lot of folks didn't start till they got older.
Darryl uh Clarence Darrell, the great Attorney, he didn't start
to like his late fifties, really becoming great Grandma Moses,
the artists, the late Picasso, his best work. He didn't
really get that shit started. He was seventy and eighty,
you know, so I don't think it's too late. I
just fell in love. I'm sixty six. I thought the
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same thing, the window it coming gone, But now it's
fresh and it's ripe, and I'm still trying to conquer
a field I've been in for thirty two years. I
ain't never saying I'm told to do it. I'm gonna
cock I'm gonna beat all these You're gonna look up,
they're gonna say, my cay on everything, what's going on?
We thought he was through? It's never too late.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Baby, Well I'm doing that. I think I'm trying to
im find. I'm finding young young people that are that
are more interested in the health related sciences. I'm trying
to sponsor their efforts.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Okay, so you're eating right, you say you're eating right? Yeah, yeah,
No pork, ain't no pork, no, no red meat at all.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
No, no chickens, no.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Not but very straight vegetarian. Or you eat chicken too?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
No, I mean I eat just a very little chicken.
And I'm trying to and I'm trying to give up
no pork at all, and I'm trying to fish a
lot of fish.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Fish.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
That's really a healthy diet though, if it's only fish chicken.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I'm six six, man, I got to eat I got
to do it right.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Me too, me too.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
What you look way younger than me. I don't know
what you eating, what you're doing right, but I need
to have more.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
You young, much younger than I am.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Come on, come on, where I am in spirit?
Speaker 5 (12:18):
You know?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
But we're both sixty six, baby, But I'm sitting here
looking like your granddaddy. That's why I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Ask you, man, come on, man, come on, Oh.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well, brother, listen you now you're talking to young folks
about getting into the music game, right.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
That's my that's my goal. Apparently ideally, I'm only get
in a position do I make some inquiries, but not
as much as I like to, not as much as
I can, as I have to be able to clean it.
I'm just you know, it's my goal, is my desire
at some point.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
But are you working with some No?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
No, no, not my mind mind. I'm actually I'm I'm
My attention is a bit selfish right now because that
I have to deal with what's right in front of me,
which is my daughter. My son is not managing her,
and she's starting to really make a lot of noise.
You know, she's starting to really grows as an artist.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
And what does she do.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
She's a singer.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
She's a singer. Okay, what is she saying? Is it
R and B as well?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah? R and B. Perry Jones. If you get a
chance to check out Perry Perry.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Don't check out I'm putting on my morning show. I'm
gonna check out as.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Soon as she's ready to come. And I'm absolutely sure
that you're gonna be like, You're gonna be amazed, you
know when you see it, and it won't be like
you most parents are now. I would like to think
all parents want to believe, but want to to to
support the children in whatever way they can, you know,
as completely as they can. And they sometimes to the
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point where they see things that aren't there or hear
things that aren't there, you know, but a parent. But
I didn't get involved with her until about three years
after she even started. She actually is like she is
the good She's got you.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Well, let's hold that thought. We're gonna hold that thought
on Perry. We'll come back. We'll pick it up on Perry.
You got to take a quick commercial. I'm glad you
working with your.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Baby to pay this. Talk to me, man, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I'm gonna talk to you about Berry.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
She got.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
She gonna have her own moment. I'll see you in
the moment. We'll be right black. Hey, y'all, Michael talks
to everybody. We'll see you in a.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Moment, and we're black.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I mean, we're back. I am here with Orange Juice Jones.
He had he had that classic song I saw you
Walking in the rain.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
You know who else had a song similar to that,
Nancy Wilson. It's called Guests. It was called guests who
I saw today and she sings this whole song about
how she walked into the nightclub because she's shopping and
she wanted to treat herself to a little meal and
a glass of wine.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And she.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, she was amazing, She was amazing, She was amazing.
And her story said, she sat down to have a
glass of wine a little salad, and she saw this
lovely couple in the back booth hiding out. You could
tell they loved each other way they giggled, they smiled
and everything the way he played with her end kissed
her on the lips, and she said, guess who I
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saw today? I saw you. That's why it's it's a classic.
Your song makes me think of a version of that,
you know company she ain't busting in the head. And
you know what more makes me think of go away,
little boy? Do you know what that song? Go away?
Little boy? I can't think of the girls and why
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don't you go away? Little boy? Uh? I can't think
of that because you're hurting me more every minute that
you delay. Hey, hey, because when you name me, when
your name me, when you name me, when your nime,
when you're close uptight, just like this, Oh baby, who
is that? Who say that song Marlene Shaw saw Marlina
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Shaw run away. Okay, let's get all of us old folks,
let's get back to the young people. So tell me
about Perry. How old is Perry? This is your daughter
who also sings, right, she's twenty five. She's swinging like
she's one of seven seven children's twenty five. Oh my man,
ain't shooting no blanks.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Sorry, come on, man, I can't get rid of him.
I got all seven still with you, man.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Now you're eating healthy only chicken, fish, vegetables and fruit. Yeah,
so you'll get to live alone. That's why you look
so young. Your daughter's twenty five years old. Is she
eating healthy like that too?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Absolutely? Absolutely? She looks seven fourteen, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
She's fourteen.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
She looks every looks every She.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Looks like fourteen. She's twenty five.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Health yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Now is your son also a vocalist?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
He's rapt into rap music and the hip hop. He
wants to uh, he wants to uh uh investigate. He's
gonna be a rap star. Gonna be a rap star.
I'm not what that means. Now, you know I'm trying
to I'm still trying to to gather what that means.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Doesn't it vary? Is it based on who the personality is?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I'm quite certain because I think I think music the
purpose of music.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Is to capture them mentality of the times. You know
that was that was like you? I think, who's uh?
Speaker 5 (17:23):
So?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I ste told me that. He's told me the purpose
of music, right, the mentality of the times? Okay, and
and and through and through the music, you'll capture you
understand what that mentality was. That's why I think the
music now is so. I think that that's exactly what
we're getting right now in the music is showing us
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the times, you know, whether like kids aren't raised in
love like we used to be raised.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
We weren't let raise the do the right thing. No,
that ship don't matter anymore. It's like we're raising our
kids if they're getting raised at all with the dogg
eat dog mentality. I'm a get man, pay me, shut up.
This what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna show you my nails,
my ass, my attitudes, everything about me, all my blemishes.
If you don't like it, that's on you list sing
(18:10):
about it. But there was a time when we sang
about love and there was a time when we also
raise our kids in love, you know, I mean we lifted,
We lifted folks in what our music was. Especially the
first rap and hip hop was only positive stuff. It
became later that people start singing about they bitches in
their holes, how much money they got, which is really
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not about anything in particular, you know. So yeah it does.
I think it does reflect our times. But I think
we can also guide and change our times by the
music we use. Because Stevie Wonder is not gonna let
the music or the times take him into an area
that his heart's not about. He's not gonna create a
piece of music that's talking about smacking that ass and
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how I'm gonna get man, just because that is the
current client climate. He's gonna hit you with a different
piece of music that's gonna shift the way you think.
That's what I think the great artists do. They try
to shift your thinking into a direction that is positive
for you and helps you grow in and inform yourself
and lift yourself. Those are the ones that win, you know,
the jay Z's, the Beyonces. I love him, you know.
(19:15):
And wait, let me ask you this. Since you're a
music great how do you feel about Beyonce. We have
people coming out saying, well, the church is turning, she's
against the church, and all this to you know, we
Christians wouldn't have her in their church and all. I
think she's phenomenal and I think what she does is
quite saintly. Actually, even if she's not talking the same
words you want to hear, I think she's doing an
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excellent job and she's a standing example for excellence. But
what do you think.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I think that Beyonce, like like anyone in that position,
is working, you know, I don't. I don't think. I
don't think that what she says, what she does, how
she conducts herself should be taking literally to the point
where one would fashion their life or conform their thoughts
to work into the be in accordance to that, you know,
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to to run parallel to that. I think Beyonce it
represents a relief. She's entertained. Beyonce and and people like you,
jay z all everyone in this you you are, You're
an You're an outlet, you're an option, you're some someone.
You're someplace for someone to go when they want to
get away from wherever they are and they need to
go somewhere. They need to go somewhere to find themselves.
(20:24):
You understand, that's what that's what you are, that's what
she is. That's what anyone in this industry is and
to to. But at the end of it all, we
are all. We all have our own bricks to carry,
you know what I'm saying, And we must we have
our own selves to hold.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
It's up to us. You know, you can't our own hands.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
It's in our own hands, you know what I'm saying.
And to take and to try and to look at
a person and to suggest have an opinion the time
it takes an opinion on anything else other than your
own situation that distracts you from your own person. I
don't think. I think that's just a distraction. It's a
waste of time, a waste of time. I appreciate it
for what she does, and I appreciate that, and then
(21:03):
that's the beautiful thing.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
And leave it at that, and leave it in. So
many people all wrapped up in their judgments and shit
like like beyond say Kiah that y'all some of y'all
don't like what she's doing.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I don't know any of them.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
She's living her life. Man, she living her dream. She's shopping,
y'all complaining why she's shopping? Funk out of here?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
When you think, why if you waste that much times
that too much?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, and that's energy you could be putting in to
build your own ship exactly instead of Oh, we have
so many people around us who lay back in the
back and point the finger and talk about how your
shit ain't right. But they're sitting on their own I
don't know, pile of nothingness and just mad because you
enjoying yourself.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
You know, people don't get what they want because they
don't know what they ask for. MM when you wind
up making your mind up at that point, you find
up instead of that as simple as that.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I just think I need to learn how to steal.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Now, listen, the best composers beefs.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
That's cool, the top the top of everything. But listen, Well,
have you ever considered getting back in that studio and
maybe doing a duet? Wait a minute, and maybe doing
a duet with Perry That Nat King Cold? What was
his daughter's name? That King Cole's daughter, That King Natalie
okay Na King Cold Natalie Cole kind of thing. Well,
(22:25):
y'all face off on the screen or something, and you
sing your as matter of fact, think about this, I
saw you walking in the rain. You're singing it, and
she's on the side wrapping a modern day interpretation of it,
because you know, nowadays it's still the same thing. Fellas
and women and fellas they still do cheat on each other.
(22:45):
So imagine your modern version of you singing it, and
she's standing there with her arms crossed, looking at the
same couple you looking at, but she giving it to
them differently, talking about you know, how you are, And
she would hit it with the rhythm and the notes
that a today rap artists would hit it with to
be saying the same thing you saying about how you
disappointed and you know, and how they should know better
(23:07):
and have made more self respect or whatever. She'll be
spitting her thing while you calmly singing yours. That's just
a thought.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I'm trying. She's seeing that cool. Yeah, I'm trying to
get it. I'm trying to get this.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
How you know she ain't that cool? I don't believe
that You've never you've never run that ideal by her.
I never run that ideal by you. Don't know that
might knock her socks off. Man, you tell her that,
let me tell you what happened. You do that, what
you're doing is welcoming her into your sanctum, your world,
this thing that you built yourself to be so great at.
(23:42):
When you do that, it's like you're opening your doors
and bringing across the threshold until next level.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Shit.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
You know, right now she's doing music with you. You know,
like music with your supervision and your help. But imagine
doing the music with you to the point that you're
walking in. Now you're standing with the legend, the legend
and the legend that's together. Come on, we're going back
to Kobe and his daughter. Come on now. So I'm
just saying I'm.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Trying to get it. I got some show, I have
shows lined up, and I'm trying to get her come
and perform with me. And she said, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Day say, but forget about all that. Forget about that
you tried that shit or in it didn't work. Okay,
forget about that. We're coming at it on a new page. Okay.
I need you to approach her and say, baby, I
got the greatest ideal. Okay, we just sit down with Daddy.
Give me five minutes your time. Let me tell you
what it should look like, me and you, daughter and
father singing a rendition of my song walking in the Rain,
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while you're giving a modern interpretation and I'm singing it
the way it was. But we both come to the
same conclusion that if you're cheating, you ain't shit and
you should drown in your own blood. No, not that,
but if you're cheating, if you're cheating, you wrong, and
I should get you in line about it. And you
know what I'm saying, Just have it as a conversation
to say it to a first. Let it saturate saying
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say and say, baby, look, don't even answer. I want
you to hear me out, and then just give me
your word for sixty seconds, We'll just sit quiet, just
like that. Let me finish on saying we're gonna sit quietly,
okay and think about it together for like sixty seconds.
Just let me tell you what it is, and then
tell her what it is. And this sexy. I guarantee
(25:17):
you you're gonna be surprised. She's gonna say, Daddy, that's fact.
We need to do that.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I'm gonna try just like that. I'm gonna try just
like that. I'm gonna let you know. I'm gonna quiet
back and let you know, and hopefully she'll let me
write it because I can't use the day's language. You know,
anything I wrote.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
You can't, but she can. And you know what it does,
It makes you relevant again. She You think you're pulling
her in, but she'll really be pulling you into what
is the now, and all of a sudden, you hip
all over again. You know, I'm show boat right in
House Party three. That was twenty five years ago, but
because they play house Party damn near airy day, I
(25:55):
am renewed every day. So every day some kid walks
up to me on the street, man, you show give
me some toe Jim Crackers. That was twenty five years ago,
and it still renews me. That's what she could do,
and you doing this with her, it could be a
renewal that will blow your man. And then other musicians
come out the woodworking like, hey, yo, why don't we
collaborate on this and bring your daughter. That's how you get.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
There's gonna do that. I'm sure it's gonna approach it
with that.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I'm proud of you for taking it seriously. Thank you, proud,
thank you for. This is what God do.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Baby, God don't putting nothing in front of you ain't
supposed to be there.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
King.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
He put us together so we can work this thing out.
And I am thrilled and overjoyed that we was able
to have that conversation. Uh, and our time is almost up.
We got like three minutes left. Is there anything you
want people out there to know about you, about what's
coming or whatever before we jump off the off the
train here?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Uh? Well, just the play walking in the rain. You know,
it's we starting in Philadelphia. It's coming. I'm trying to
get in different cities, you know, So hopefully that will
happen the top of year. We have a couple of
season like okay now, and then you know, it's just
Perry Jones. That's that's you know, that's that's I'm working
on the album and I love it.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
What's the album gonna be called?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I'm not certainly I want to I'm trying to wait.
She I don't want to name it first. I want
to wait to see what we come up with and
then let the name be a some mention of what
that it represents.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
You know, couldn't consider her name because Perry Jones is
a beautiful name, you know, and a lot of artists
first album is just their name, you know, who is
the name of this is it? But just Perry Jones alone?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
To me, just Perry the.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Same thing, the same thing, Just Perry and the same thing.
But what she wants is what you should do, because
what she wants is what she's going to really illuminate.
You don't want to force anything on her. But I
was just giving you my idea only because I just
heard you say the words. And to hear the words
Perry Jones, that alone sounds elegant, you know. And I
just imagine album cover with nothing on the front nor
(28:02):
the words, just Perry Jones, real elegant on the dark background.
And this people gonna be with Perry Jones. What the
hell of that? Make him flip the album cover over
and find out what they're about to get into? Thought,
we just hit a exchange thoughts and ideals.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Tell people God doing this thing.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Tell people how they can find you and get more information.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Orange Just Jones Official, and I guess that that's the
that's the Instagram thing, Orange JUSTE Jones fifty seven and
Gmail as that's the Hands fifty seven, Okay, hands at
gmail dot com. And you know that at this point
in life, I'm just trying to be the service. Actually,
so there's anything I can never do better to be
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of any kind of service in any kind of shape,
form of fashion to you in any kind of way. Man,
Please allow me the opportunity to stack the blessing.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Why, thank you, brother, I'm receiving that you bless me
today by just coming and chatting with me and just
opening your heart. Thank you King, and you let's see
maybe you're coming back, and you'll come back as the
couple Perry an Orange Juice Jones live again. I pray
(29:10):
for great blessings for you and your wonderful daughter. And
remember I'm getting her all my morning show. We're gonna
hear her singing, y'all. Thank you, my friend. Hey man,
we're just talking to Orange Juice Jones, the legend. Wait
before you go, where are you from?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I went? I'm from Houston, Texas, but I'm living in
New York, so I'm back and forth. But you know
it's a little bit older these Jones in every place,
so I guess I'm from all over were.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Oh man, he's from airwhell Man. Okay, So anyway, we
had a wonderful conversation with Orange Juice Jones. We're back
probably the day after tomorrow with another one. Because this
is Michael talked to everybody. I'm talking on everybody every Monday,
Wednesday and Friday a new show. Uh Man, be following us.
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you can do about it. Remember life as a garden
if you dig it, and never try to put anything
above God, because God is all I love y'all. Talk
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You know, we are celebrating fifty years of hip hop
and you know, just black music period, it's phenomenal. It's
always I remember when hip hop came out because I'm
(01:10):
old like that and I remember when hip hop first
came out and people shunned and oh, that's voodoo music,
that's devil music. All this so craziness. And now you
can't hear a commercial without hip hop. You can't listen
to a movie or TV show without hip hop. It
is a basic foundation of most of the music in
this country, you know. And so we are celebrating fifty
(01:31):
years of that. But I celebrate fifty years of black music,
or all of black music. And today we have one
of the R and B legends, Orange Juice Jones, to
hear what it's day, Orange Juice j Jones having how
you feel?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
King?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Good to see you, man.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I'm said for a squats, great to be here, Mike,
call you. Thank you so much for having me. Brother.
Guess sir, you look good.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
They can't see you, but you look good. You still
look young. Their things, you know, you know it's a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
You know they gonna crack baby. You know how to go.
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Hey, well, look before you tell us who you are
and where you're from, let me remind the people of
your your big hit Walking in the Rain. I love
that Walking in the rain. Is that the exact name
of it is so walking in the rain. You know,
he's singing this song, y'all, and he saw his woman
walking in the rain with somebody else, not me. I
thought you was gonna stab him, you, especially when you
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came out that dark doorway. Remember they walked back and
you came out the dark door. He had your long
trench go. I said, oh, somebody going down now. But
all you did at the end is you just just
gave a tongue lashing. You just you just verbally let
her know how you felt about it, and that that
was the end. See, you couldn't even you couldn't even
play that video today. If somebody didn't get stabbed or shot,
(02:45):
ain't nobody canna believe that. But anyway, come fooling with you.
It was a good love piece. A lot of people
remember it. I saw you walking in the rain with
another man, and so that's how people would know you
by that piece, walk in the ring. Tell me how
was it for you to shoot that?
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Well?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You know, my first impus was to run the bone
and do a rambow.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
We did, you know what it was?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I got the opportunity. Russell Simmons was a different than
mine and gave me the opportunity something together, and we
were the record was actually finished. You know, I thought
the concept being as us as universal as infidelity is universal.
Thing you did, and the outcome is usually the same,
you know.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Is universally That's true. That's true.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
And the concept, you know, a beat up I'm gonna
set outcome is usually the same. You know, we're all
it's a violent ending, you know somewhere.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Wow, So I wanted to do something, make it a
little more more slickid than that, a little cooler than that.
You did, what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
When that came out, it was a big hit, winn it.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It was great for a long time.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, the lights one for a long time. So you've
been music, been doing a lot of music since then, right.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Since then, I've been focusing on on the just some
some music, commercials mostly. I got involved with commercials a
little while, you know, and I find that to be
very fulfilling. It was very quick, very fast, and and uh,
my involvement with music was never meant really meant to
last that long. I never really wanted to be a musician,
you know, I didn't. I didn't So what so what
(04:21):
did you want to be a doctor? I was studying.
I was studying biology. Was gonna be pretty mad.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
So what made you change your mind? Change your course?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Curtis Bow, I was in I was in actually money ultimately,
you know, because agreed, you know, you know just I mean,
it's there's a bunch of things. Man. He came to
he came to I was in Texas Southern University. He
came down there to do his show, and what's going back?
(04:51):
You know. I went to the show to hang out
with him. He said, man, listen, come on back to
New York. I got this music thing going on. It's amazing.
Don't believe you know, I said, Okay, I came back
and I wrote a song for him, old hip hop
song called day Dreaming, right, oh, the first song that
the rapper ever really ever sang. He was the first
(05:12):
rapper ever sang day dream this blow the first rap
up that that's real, The first rapper who ever sang
a song Curtis Bow called is called a song called
day Dreaming.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Okay, So that made you realize that you can sing?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
That's right. Made a lot of money for him, and
then we got to tick. It didn't make a lot
of money for.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Me, Damn. That's not good.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
That's not all you know a lot of so, so
what happened was I was I was kind of upset
about that. So and then Russell was coming. He said,
MAYM be upset. Listen. I got a little label called
Depth Jam. You know, it's not gonna be a lot
of money, but it's been a cool situation be involved with.
Come on, get on board with that, you know. And
then I just fell inne and one thing snowballed into
another and then the result was was the ring.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
But it threw you off your course because you're supposed
to be doctor ran juice joan emergency please.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
That was my first love. Yes, absolutely, I really thought
I could pull it off. You know, I thought, I thought,
you know, so that's more, that's more less a calling,
you know, medicine. So and I really thought I could
have pulled it off.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
But isn't music calling?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Its somewhat It depends on your perspective, but it's not
your calling, not that particular particular time.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
No, So what are you doing today? Music?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I taken. I've kept it pimping. You know, I'm pimping
from you know, I m p from power. In my perspective,
you know I've kept it, you know, taking what I uh,
I've evolved musically. I would like to think, you know,
I've written my first play. I'm involved play. Now we
actually do the reenactment of Walking in the Ring. I'm
involved in the play with a young cat Rick watching
at the Philadelphia and we're doing what I've been doing
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it for the last four months.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Hey, what's the name of that play?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Walking in the Ring?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Come yeah, and it's it's Jump It was jump starting
in Philadelphia on October first.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Okay, but does she get a swooped in the play
at least? Or no? You just the girl.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I can't be pimping, man, I can't be you still
just in.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
It with a little conversation.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I don't think that was the more civilized thing to do.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
That's but do you really want to be civilized when
you see your woman walking in the ring with another
more person?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I think we have to be I think, I think,
I think we I think and I think overall black people,
I think we are generally. I don't think there's violent
as we portrayed to be. I don't think we we
jumped to you.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
As easily as is that. I think, But I think,
given you know, the opportunity to to have any I
don't think we have any examples of that. I think
we have too many examples that we can stem from,
you know that that illustrate that that that type of attitude,
that type of.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
We just saw a brother get in trouble like last
year something for slapping this woman in the elevator and
snatching around and stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
He's on the football team, and you know, I you know,
I don't understand that man, you know, because I've never
really you know, it's it's not that wanna. I've just
never I've always been chosen, you know what I'm saying.
I've never been Everybody had to go out there and
hunting for mine. You did what I'm saying, So everyone,
everyone I've ever been involved with, always act accordingly. So
I don't know what it means to put my hands
(08:11):
on a woman.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Really, I don't know, though I'm now I'm joking about
that part. We're talking about doing music. You want to
make the ship funny, but no, I don't advocate doing that.
I don't ask I don't advocate that ship at all.
I don't put my mama wouldn't go for that. I
would never put my hands on a woman unless I
was protecting myself. You know, even then, I wouldn't. I
(08:32):
wouldn't hit her, but I choked the ship. I'm sorry,
what were you saying on that topic, which is never
a funny topic. We will never ever abuse women or
ever joke about.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Or encourage that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
That is't what we're talking about, but your play. I
don't think that's what the record was about. I think
the record was about a lady cheating on a man
who really loved her and he's letting him, letting her
know how mad he is about being betrayed.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Eight like that.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I'm just saying, in modern days like now, it ain't
gonna be no conversation, she's gonna get choked, somebody gonna
slap her, the wig gonna fly across the room.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
It's I mean, it's just saying, as we go, what
year was that? What year was What year was that
that you did that?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
What was eighty six?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Man, that's the year I started, was eighty six, So
we're talking thirty two years something like that. I didn't
do the math, y'all, So don't be righting in talking
about it thirty seven thirty two. I don't know. I'm
taking a shot in the dark here.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
That's great, yeah, baby, you know, a lot of cats
ain't on inside of the grass no more.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
That's right. We're still here, man, Just being here so wonderful.
That's what you do with it. See, that's on you.
What you do with that you still here, which give
you opportunity to do anything and everything you've ever thought
you want to do it. It's not too late to
be in the legal profession, sir. You know. I know
that the first leg of your life was the music,
(10:03):
but you can still slid over into the Oh you
want to be medical? You said a doctor. Oh yeah,
you could probably still be a doctor. But boy, that's
a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Of words, you know. That's I think that that has
the season, as in all things, you know, and I
unfortunately I think that season's passed. I'm absolutely sure of it.
But I really hope.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
That you're that you're wrong. I just hope, I hope
that you're I'm.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Listen, it's not it anywhere you're from. It's where you're
at you I'm really say.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
But also it's not what you're looking at is what
you see. And so what I was trying to say is, yes,
if you're just sad that you wanted to do medicine,
then your window of opportunity is not gone. It depends
on how you choose to look at that.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
It's a lot of folks didn't start till they got older.
Darryl uh Clarence Darrell, the great Attorney, he didn't start
to like his late fifties, really becoming great Grandma Moses,
the artists, the late Picasso, his best work. He didn't
really get that shit started. He was seventy and eighty,
you know, so I don't think it's too late. I
just fell in love. I'm sixty six. I thought the
(11:10):
same thing, the window it coming gone, But now it's
fresh and it's ripe, and I'm still trying to conquer
a field I've been in for thirty two years. I
ain't never saying I'm told to do it. I'm gonna
cock I'm gonna beat all these You're gonna look up,
they're gonna say, my cay on everything, what's going on?
We thought he was through? It's never too late.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Baby, Well I'm doing that. I think I'm trying to
im find. I'm finding young young people that are that
are more interested in the health related sciences. I'm trying
to sponsor their efforts.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Okay, so you're eating right, you say you're eating right? Yeah, yeah,
No pork, ain't no pork, no, no red meat at all.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
No, no chickens, no.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Not but very straight vegetarian. Or you eat chicken too?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
No, I mean I eat just a very little chicken.
And I'm trying to and I'm trying to give up
no pork at all, and I'm trying to fish a
lot of fish.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Fish.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
That's really a healthy diet though, if it's only fish chicken.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I'm six six, man, I got to eat I got
to do it right.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Me too, me too.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
What you look way younger than me. I don't know
what you eating, what you're doing right, but I need
to have more.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
You young, much younger than I am.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Come on, come on, where I am in spirit?
Speaker 5 (12:18):
You know?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
But we're both sixty six, baby, But I'm sitting here
looking like your granddaddy. That's why I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Ask you, man, come on, man, come on, Oh.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well, brother, listen you now you're talking to young folks
about getting into the music game, right.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
That's my that's my goal. Apparently ideally, I'm only get
in a position do I make some inquiries, but not
as much as I like to, not as much as
I can, as I have to be able to clean it.
I'm just you know, it's my goal, is my desire
at some point.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
But are you working with some No?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
No, no, not my mind mind. I'm actually I'm I'm
My attention is a bit selfish right now because that
I have to deal with what's right in front of me,
which is my daughter. My son is not managing her,
and she's starting to really make a lot of noise.
You know, she's starting to really grows as an artist.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
And what does she do.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
She's a singer.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
She's a singer. Okay, what is she saying? Is it
R and B as well?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah? R and B. Perry Jones. If you get a
chance to check out Perry Perry.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Don't check out I'm putting on my morning show. I'm
gonna check out as.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Soon as she's ready to come. And I'm absolutely sure
that you're gonna be like, You're gonna be amazed, you
know when you see it, and it won't be like
you most parents are now. I would like to think
all parents want to believe, but want to to to
support the children in whatever way they can, you know,
as completely as they can. And they sometimes to the
(13:38):
point where they see things that aren't there or hear
things that aren't there, you know, but a parent. But
I didn't get involved with her until about three years
after she even started. She actually is like she is
the good She's got you.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Well, let's hold that thought. We're gonna hold that thought
on Perry. We'll come back. We'll pick it up on Perry.
You got to take a quick commercial. I'm glad you
working with your.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Baby to pay this. Talk to me, man, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I'm gonna talk to you about Berry.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
She got.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
She gonna have her own moment. I'll see you in
the moment. We'll be right black. Hey, y'all, Michael talks
to everybody. We'll see you in a.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Moment, and we're black.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I mean, we're back. I am here with Orange Juice Jones.
He had he had that classic song I saw you
Walking in the rain.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
You know who else had a song similar to that,
Nancy Wilson. It's called Guests. It was called guests who
I saw today and she sings this whole song about
how she walked into the nightclub because she's shopping and
she wanted to treat herself to a little meal and
a glass of wine.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
And she.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, she was amazing, She was amazing, She was amazing.
And her story said, she sat down to have a
glass of wine a little salad, and she saw this
lovely couple in the back booth hiding out. You could
tell they loved each other way they giggled, they smiled
and everything the way he played with her end kissed
her on the lips, and she said, guess who I
(15:15):
saw today? I saw you. That's why it's it's a classic.
Your song makes me think of a version of that,
you know company she ain't busting in the head. And
you know what more makes me think of go away,
little boy? Do you know what that song? Go away?
Little boy? I can't think of the girls and why
(15:37):
don't you go away? Little boy? Uh? I can't think
of that because you're hurting me more every minute that
you delay. Hey, hey, because when you name me, when
your name me, when you name me, when your nime,
when you're close uptight, just like this, Oh baby, who
is that? Who say that song Marlene Shaw saw Marlina
(16:02):
Shaw run away. Okay, let's get all of us old folks,
let's get back to the young people. So tell me
about Perry. How old is Perry? This is your daughter
who also sings, right, she's twenty five. She's swinging like
she's one of seven seven children's twenty five. Oh my man,
ain't shooting no blanks.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Sorry, come on, man, I can't get rid of him.
I got all seven still with you, man.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Now you're eating healthy only chicken, fish, vegetables and fruit. Yeah,
so you'll get to live alone. That's why you look
so young. Your daughter's twenty five years old. Is she
eating healthy like that too?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Absolutely? Absolutely? She looks seven fourteen, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
She's fourteen.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
She looks every looks every She.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Looks like fourteen. She's twenty five.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Health yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Now is your son also a vocalist?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
He's rapt into rap music and the hip hop. He
wants to uh, he wants to uh uh investigate. He's
gonna be a rap star. Gonna be a rap star.
I'm not what that means. Now, you know I'm trying
to I'm still trying to to gather what that means.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Doesn't it vary? Is it based on who the personality is?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I'm quite certain because I think I think music the
purpose of music.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Is to capture them mentality of the times. You know
that was that was like you? I think, who's uh?
Speaker 5 (17:23):
So?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I ste told me that. He's told me the purpose
of music, right, the mentality of the times? Okay, and
and and through and through the music, you'll capture you
understand what that mentality was. That's why I think the
music now is so. I think that that's exactly what
we're getting right now in the music is showing us
(17:45):
the times, you know, whether like kids aren't raised in
love like we used to be raised.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
We weren't let raise the do the right thing. No,
that ship don't matter anymore. It's like we're raising our
kids if they're getting raised at all with the dogg
eat dog mentality. I'm a get man, pay me, shut up.
This what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna show you my nails,
my ass, my attitudes, everything about me, all my blemishes.
If you don't like it, that's on you list sing
(18:10):
about it. But there was a time when we sang
about love and there was a time when we also
raise our kids in love, you know, I mean we lifted,
We lifted folks in what our music was. Especially the
first rap and hip hop was only positive stuff. It
became later that people start singing about they bitches in
their holes, how much money they got, which is really
(18:30):
not about anything in particular, you know. So yeah it does.
I think it does reflect our times. But I think
we can also guide and change our times by the
music we use. Because Stevie Wonder is not gonna let
the music or the times take him into an area
that his heart's not about. He's not gonna create a
piece of music that's talking about smacking that ass and
(18:52):
how I'm gonna get man, just because that is the
current client climate. He's gonna hit you with a different
piece of music that's gonna shift the way you think.
That's what I think the great artists do. They try
to shift your thinking into a direction that is positive
for you and helps you grow in and inform yourself
and lift yourself. Those are the ones that win, you know,
the jay Z's, the Beyonces. I love him, you know.
(19:15):
And wait, let me ask you this. Since you're a
music great how do you feel about Beyonce. We have
people coming out saying, well, the church is turning, she's
against the church, and all this to you know, we
Christians wouldn't have her in their church and all. I
think she's phenomenal and I think what she does is
quite saintly. Actually, even if she's not talking the same
words you want to hear, I think she's doing an
(19:36):
excellent job and she's a standing example for excellence. But
what do you think.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I think that Beyonce, like like anyone in that position,
is working, you know, I don't. I don't think. I
don't think that what she says, what she does, how
she conducts herself should be taking literally to the point
where one would fashion their life or conform their thoughts
to work into the be in accordance to that, you know,
(20:01):
to to run parallel to that. I think Beyonce it
represents a relief. She's entertained. Beyonce and and people like you,
jay z all everyone in this you you are, You're
an You're an outlet, you're an option, you're some someone.
You're someplace for someone to go when they want to
get away from wherever they are and they need to
go somewhere. They need to go somewhere to find themselves.
(20:24):
You understand, that's what that's what you are, that's what
she is. That's what anyone in this industry is and
to to. But at the end of it all, we
are all. We all have our own bricks to carry,
you know what I'm saying, And we must we have
our own selves to hold.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
It's up to us. You know, you can't our own hands.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
It's in our own hands, you know what I'm saying.
And to take and to try and to look at
a person and to suggest have an opinion the time
it takes an opinion on anything else other than your
own situation that distracts you from your own person. I
don't think. I think that's just a distraction. It's a
waste of time, a waste of time. I appreciate it
for what she does, and I appreciate that, and then
(21:03):
that's the beautiful thing.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
And leave it at that, and leave it in. So
many people all wrapped up in their judgments and shit
like like beyond say Kiah that y'all some of y'all
don't like what she's doing.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I don't know any of them.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
She's living her life. Man, she living her dream. She's shopping,
y'all complaining why she's shopping? Funk out of here?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
When you think, why if you waste that much times
that too much?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, and that's energy you could be putting in to
build your own ship exactly instead of Oh, we have
so many people around us who lay back in the
back and point the finger and talk about how your
shit ain't right. But they're sitting on their own I
don't know, pile of nothingness and just mad because you
enjoying yourself.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
You know, people don't get what they want because they
don't know what they ask for. MM when you wind
up making your mind up at that point, you find
up instead of that as simple as that.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I just think I need to learn how to steal.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Now, listen, the best composers beefs.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
That's cool, the top the top of everything. But listen, Well,
have you ever considered getting back in that studio and
maybe doing a duet? Wait a minute, and maybe doing
a duet with Perry That Nat King Cold? What was
his daughter's name? That King Cole's daughter, That King Natalie
okay Na King Cold Natalie Cole kind of thing. Well,
(22:25):
y'all face off on the screen or something, and you
sing your as matter of fact, think about this, I
saw you walking in the rain. You're singing it, and
she's on the side wrapping a modern day interpretation of it,
because you know, nowadays it's still the same thing. Fellas
and women and fellas they still do cheat on each other.
(22:45):
So imagine your modern version of you singing it, and
she's standing there with her arms crossed, looking at the
same couple you looking at, but she giving it to
them differently, talking about you know, how you are, And
she would hit it with the rhythm and the notes
that a today rap artists would hit it with to
be saying the same thing you saying about how you
disappointed and you know, and how they should know better
(23:07):
and have made more self respect or whatever. She'll be
spitting her thing while you calmly singing yours. That's just
a thought.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I'm trying. She's seeing that cool. Yeah, I'm trying to
get it. I'm trying to get this.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
How you know she ain't that cool? I don't believe
that You've never you've never run that ideal by her.
I never run that ideal by you. Don't know that
might knock her socks off. Man, you tell her that,
let me tell you what happened. You do that, what
you're doing is welcoming her into your sanctum, your world,
this thing that you built yourself to be so great at.
(23:42):
When you do that, it's like you're opening your doors
and bringing across the threshold until next level.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Shit.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
You know, right now she's doing music with you. You know,
like music with your supervision and your help. But imagine
doing the music with you to the point that you're
walking in. Now you're standing with the legend, the legend
and the legend that's together. Come on, we're going back
to Kobe and his daughter. Come on now. So I'm
just saying I'm.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Trying to get it. I got some show, I have
shows lined up, and I'm trying to get her come
and perform with me. And she said, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Day say, but forget about all that. Forget about that
you tried that shit or in it didn't work. Okay,
forget about that. We're coming at it on a new page. Okay.
I need you to approach her and say, baby, I
got the greatest ideal. Okay, we just sit down with Daddy.
Give me five minutes your time. Let me tell you
what it should look like, me and you, daughter and
father singing a rendition of my song walking in the Rain,
(24:35):
while you're giving a modern interpretation and I'm singing it
the way it was. But we both come to the
same conclusion that if you're cheating, you ain't shit and
you should drown in your own blood. No, not that,
but if you're cheating, if you're cheating, you wrong, and
I should get you in line about it. And you
know what I'm saying, Just have it as a conversation
to say it to a first. Let it saturate saying
(24:56):
say and say, baby, look, don't even answer. I want
you to hear me out, and then just give me
your word for sixty seconds, We'll just sit quiet, just
like that. Let me finish on saying we're gonna sit quietly,
okay and think about it together for like sixty seconds.
Just let me tell you what it is, and then
tell her what it is. And this sexy. I guarantee
(25:17):
you you're gonna be surprised. She's gonna say, Daddy, that's fact.
We need to do that.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I'm gonna try just like that. I'm gonna try just
like that. I'm gonna let you know. I'm gonna quiet
back and let you know, and hopefully she'll let me
write it because I can't use the day's language. You know,
anything I wrote.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
You can't, but she can. And you know what it does,
It makes you relevant again. She You think you're pulling
her in, but she'll really be pulling you into what
is the now, and all of a sudden, you hip
all over again. You know, I'm show boat right in
House Party three. That was twenty five years ago, but
because they play house Party damn near airy day, I
(25:55):
am renewed every day. So every day some kid walks
up to me on the street, man, you show give
me some toe Jim Crackers. That was twenty five years ago,
and it still renews me. That's what she could do,
and you doing this with her, it could be a
renewal that will blow your man. And then other musicians
come out the woodworking like, hey, yo, why don't we
collaborate on this and bring your daughter. That's how you get.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
There's gonna do that. I'm sure it's gonna approach it
with that.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I'm proud of you for taking it seriously. Thank you, proud,
thank you for. This is what God do.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Baby, God don't putting nothing in front of you ain't
supposed to be there.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
King.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
He put us together so we can work this thing out.
And I am thrilled and overjoyed that we was able
to have that conversation. Uh, and our time is almost up.
We got like three minutes left. Is there anything you
want people out there to know about you, about what's
coming or whatever before we jump off the off the
train here?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Uh? Well, just the play walking in the rain. You know,
it's we starting in Philadelphia. It's coming. I'm trying to
get in different cities, you know, So hopefully that will
happen the top of year. We have a couple of
season like okay now, and then you know, it's just
Perry Jones. That's that's you know, that's that's I'm working
on the album and I love it.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
What's the album gonna be called?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I'm not certainly I want to I'm trying to wait.
She I don't want to name it first. I want
to wait to see what we come up with and
then let the name be a some mention of what
that it represents.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
You know, couldn't consider her name because Perry Jones is
a beautiful name, you know, and a lot of artists
first album is just their name, you know, who is
the name of this is it? But just Perry Jones alone?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
To me, just Perry the.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Same thing, the same thing, Just Perry and the same thing.
But what she wants is what you should do, because
what she wants is what she's going to really illuminate.
You don't want to force anything on her. But I
was just giving you my idea only because I just
heard you say the words. And to hear the words
Perry Jones, that alone sounds elegant, you know. And I
just imagine album cover with nothing on the front nor
(28:02):
the words, just Perry Jones, real elegant on the dark background.
And this people gonna be with Perry Jones. What the
hell of that? Make him flip the album cover over
and find out what they're about to get into? Thought,
we just hit a exchange thoughts and ideals.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Tell people God doing this thing.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Tell people how they can find you and get more information.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Orange Just Jones Official, and I guess that that's the
that's the Instagram thing, Orange JUSTE Jones fifty seven and
Gmail as that's the Hands fifty seven, Okay, hands at
gmail dot com. And you know that at this point
in life, I'm just trying to be the service. Actually,
so there's anything I can never do better to be
(28:42):
of any kind of service in any kind of shape,
form of fashion to you in any kind of way. Man,
Please allow me the opportunity to stack the blessing.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Why, thank you, brother, I'm receiving that you bless me
today by just coming and chatting with me and just
opening your heart. Thank you King, and you let's see
maybe you're coming back, and you'll come back as the
couple Perry an Orange Juice Jones live again. I pray
(29:10):
for great blessings for you and your wonderful daughter. And
remember I'm getting her all my morning show. We're gonna
hear her singing, y'all. Thank you, my friend. Hey man,
we're just talking to Orange Juice Jones, the legend. Wait
before you go, where are you from?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I went? I'm from Houston, Texas, but I'm living in
New York, so I'm back and forth. But you know
it's a little bit older these Jones in every place,
so I guess I'm from all over were.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Oh man, he's from airwhell Man. Okay, So anyway, we
had a wonderful conversation with Orange Juice Jones. We're back
probably the day after tomorrow with another one. Because this
is Michael talked to everybody. I'm talking on everybody every Monday,
Wednesday and Friday a new show. Uh Man, be following us.
You gonna love it. I spoke the of the community.
(29:53):
Be following us. Okay. Anyway, I love y'all, and nothing
you can do about it. Remember life as a garden
if you dig it, and never try to put anything
above God, because God is all I love y'all. Talk
to you in pair a second, and Michael talks to
everybody by now woo, I had a good time today.
(30:15):
I hope y'all did too. Man, Thank y'all for checking
us out here at Michael talks to everybody. Hey, you
can follow me, man. I'm easy to follow. I'm on
Instagram just under act Michael Kaya. I'm on TikTok. That's
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(30:36):
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